From: exotica-owner@xmission.com To: exotica-digest@xmission.com Subject: exotica Digest V2 #15 Reply-To: exotica@xmission.com Errors-To: exotica-owner@xmission.com Precedence: exotica Digest Friday, 12 July 1996 Volume 02 : Number 015 In this issue: Re: Barrence Whitfield BAXTER'S "LOST EPISODE" It's my birthday ! Organ Stop Pizza Re: Detroit Lounge Scene Re: It's my birthday ! RE: It's my birthday ! Re: It's my birthday ! Re: It's my birthday ! Re: I am a moron Re: Sonic Vibrations of Tom Dissvelt and Kid Baltan-Song of The 2nd Moon Re: Future Trends Re: It's my birthday ! tiki gardens!?!?!? Re: It's my birthday ! Re: It's my dog's birthday ! Looking for Desmond Hill Re: 78S? How old are YOU? was: It's my birthday ! Re: It's my birthday ! Re: Charles Trenet Re: 78S? Re: It's my birthday ! Re: How old are YOU? was: It's my birthday ! See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the exotica or exotica-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:14:28 -0400 Subject: Re: Barrence Whitfield >> What I really wish someone would do is champion a Barrence Whitfield >> movement. > >Yeah. I saw BW with the Savages once years ago here in DC and it was >a blast! A real party of a show. Were the Savages just a temporary >outfit? (this was in the mid to late 80's) No, they're still together, although there have been personnel changes over the dozen years the band has been together. The bands latest CD (#7) is called "Ritual of the Savages" (Ocean Music; OM 1004). No, there's no exotica on it (the title was my joke), just soul and R&B. br cleve ------------------------------ From: LTepedino@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:59:55 -0400 Subject: BAXTER'S "LOST EPISODE" I just picked up the remastered version of Baxter's "Lost Episode" and WOW! what a difference in the sound. While no serious Baxter collector should be without this interesting curio, the sound quality of the original version was unfortunately somewhat muffled, the new remastered version sounds wonderful...if you bought the first time around it's well worth getting the new version (with the sticker on it) if you haven't whattaaya waiting for? Ashley (Dimitiri from Peoria) ------------------------------ From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:40:17 +0000 Subject: It's my birthday ! Hello ! July 18th is my and swampey@aol.com's birthday ! Are there any other cancer exoticons out there ?? Jack ------------------------------ From: Sassyodd@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:46:32 -0400 Subject: Organ Stop Pizza nope, youre not the only one who has these classics, I have Who? and my friend has the one where Ron Rhodes is standing on a ladder in front of the sign. It is actually autographed!!!! Tim. ------------------------------ From: Sassyodd@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:59:26 -0400 Subject: Re: Detroit Lounge Scene This is in response to the question about lounge scene in Detroit and surrounds. It does really suck, but some places are trying. In Pontiac, there is the Velvet Lounge, which I heard is kind of disappointing. Across the street is 7th House where I saw Combustible Edison back in may. They have Swank Night almost every Tuesday (when there is not a concert) Again, I have not gone yet but it sounds kinda cool. As for Tiki, the only place that ever existed as far as I know is a Detroit Bar near the Cass Corridor called Chin Tiki, which has been closed for years. My friend is obsessed with it and wants to go inside to see if any artifacts remain. It is in the area where the new Tiger Stadium is going so it will probably be blown up soon. I did find a mint ashtray from Chin Tiki at the Army recently, and was really excited. Anyone else know of lounges in Detroit? Thanks, Tim. ------------------------------ From: Susanne Stratford Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 15:50:37 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: It's my birthday ! On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Jack Diamond wrote: > Hello ! > > July 18th is my and swampey@aol.com's birthday ! Are there any other > cancer exoticons out there ?? > > Jack > Yeah, I'm on the 16th... What I would really like to know is how old all of us exoticons are.... Suze, Lizard Lodge. ------------------------------ From: expo tky047 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:13:14 +0900 Subject: RE: It's my birthday ! - ---------- From: Jack Diamond Sent: Friday, July 12, 1996 5:40 AM To: exotica@xmission.com Subject: It's my birthday ! Hello ! July 18th is my and swampey@aol.com's birthday ! Are there any other cancer exoticons out there ?? Jack It's my grandmother's birthday, July 18th. Nothing else ------------------------------ From: "Andrew O'Farrell" Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 07:16:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: It's my birthday ! Me Too! My birthday is July 16! :) Andrew O'Farrell Montreal, Quebec "Work hard, rock hard, eat hard, sleep hard, grow big, wear glasses if you need 'em." -Webb Wilder ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Susanne Stratford wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Jack Diamond wrote: > > > Hello ! > > > > July 18th is my and swampey@aol.com's birthday ! Are there any other > > cancer exoticons out there ?? > > > > Jack > > > > Yeah, > > I'm on the 16th... > What I would really like to know is how old all of us exoticons are.... > > Suze, > Lizard Lodge. > ------------------------------ From: sax therapy Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 07:13:36 -0600 Subject: Re: It's my birthday ! expo tky047 wrote: > > ---------- > From: Jack Diamond > Sent: Friday, July 12, 1996 5:40 AM > To: exotica@xmission.com > Subject: It's my birthday ! > > Hello ! > > July 18th is my and swampey@aol.com's birthday ! Are there any other > cancer exoticons out there ?? > My son's birthday is July 15... - -- :| :| <::< .::\ \:/ :::| :::| :~~/ :::| .::\ :::\ :\:| >::> `::| /:\ :| :|:| :::, :| `::| :::/ `::| saul smaizys/saxmania@ripco.com :| .,:' .........................web page=http://pages.ripco.com/~saxmania .............................voice (312)907.8229 fax (312)907.8521 - -- ------------------------------ From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 96 08:08:53 EDT Subject: Re: I am a moron On 7/11/97 some moron wrote: >>i wish i worked for russ meyer. >>i wish i worked for oscar meyer. >>this place blows. > A very confused person into hot dogs and boobs. What a weiner! Me again! I keep forgeting that when you reply to a post from the list, it goes to the list not the sender. It was one of those conversations you really had to be there for to understand. It would take forever to explain. Just accept it as a sort of dadaistic hiaku. ------------------------------ From: Mark Freitas Date: 12 Jul 96 7:49:06 Subject: Re: Sonic Vibrations of Tom Dissvelt and Kid Baltan-Song of The 2nd Moon >I just donated a copy of this amazing record to KFJC-FM. >They are gonna play the shit outta it!!! >It was also released on Phillips called The Elektrosonics-Electronic Music This is one of my all time favorites. I have one other, not as good called Fantasy in Orbit "An Astronaut's Impressions While Orbiting the Earth - Electronic Musical Compositions of Thomas Dissevelt" I used to play it a lot on WCBN-FM around 90-92 (on my freeform show I *always* played at least one song on each show by the exotica crew - i.e. Denney, Sumac, Baxter, Lyman, etc. I think this might've annoyed the Program Manager...) It's on Phillips as well, but like I say the liner notes are better than the music. But the electrosoniks has it all - amazing wildly varied music (avant to synth cheese ala Space Mountain to spy) and some really absurd liner notes: "The world is changing so fast that it is harder than ever to keep up. American Telegraph and Telephone is working on a wrist telephone which would be issued with a number, to every person on the earth. Dial someone up and if there's no answer, he's dead." And on the front of the record is the loud proclaimation: "SOUND A New Concept of Music, Created By Sonic Vibrations" Huh? Anyone have any other Dissevelt? The records I have were purchased 2/9/63 (Electrosoniks) and 11/27/65 (Fantasy) by this obessive guy who neatly wrote down all this and more on the back of every record he purchased. When he commited suicide five or six years ago I ended up buying a bunch of his records. He took great care of them and had a very odd collection that went from Perrey Kingsley to Stockhausen - anything electronic. c-ya, mark ------------------------------ From: Mark Freitas Date: 12 Jul 96 8:00:48 Subject: Re: Future Trends With current US politics, swinging they way it is my future trend would have to be 50's, 60's and 70's Christian music. Lots of amazing colored vinyl. Weird politics that defy logic. Funk and psychedelic music with 'patriotic' biblical lyrics. What more could a boy want? Actually even the 90's stuff is pretty funny - there this one music video on the x-ian channel called "God - good. Devil - bad." And it only gets more painful as the lyrics go on... Fave pick: The Generation Singers - "This is America" from their album "Turn me on," Tempo Recordings 1974, R 7050. It's just plain weird. mark ------------------------------ From: Dan Gresham Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:07:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: It's my birthday ! On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, sax therapy wrote: > expo tky047 wrote: > > > > ---------- > > From: Jack Diamond > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 1996 5:40 AM > > To: exotica@xmission.com > > Subject: It's my birthday ! > > > > Hello ! > > > > July 18th is my and swampey@aol.com's birthday ! Are there any other > > cancer exoticons out there ?? > > > > My son's birthday is July 15... > -- My brother's birthday is September 25th...just thought you'd like to know. Dan ------------------------------ From: "Laura Taylor" Date: 12 Jul 1996 09:10:18 -0400 Subject: tiki gardens!?!?!? tiki gardens!?!?!? 7/12/96 Who is it that is so sure Tiki Gardens exists? I live right near Indians Rocks and have heard the legend...But I called "informaton" a few months ago, and there was no listing! More details-PLEASE! laura@wusf.usf.edu - -------------------------------------- Date: 7/11/96 7:25 PM To: Laura Taylor From: exotica@xmission.com Ashley writes: >Head further east to Ft Lauderdale to check out the Mai Kai restaurant - it >outdoes Disney's Adventureland! While you are on the West Coast of Florida >check out the fabulous Tiki Gardens at Indian Rock Beach. YOW! This place still exists! I aquired an old Viewmaster packet of the Tiki Gardens not long ago, and I figured it looked too good to be true for it to have survived. Really gotta find an excuse to make it to FL now that I know it's still there... Keith Doyle keithd@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: Jbtwist@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:14:04 -0400 Subject: Re: It's my birthday ! Did you all know that Jack is a dead ringer for Willard Scott ? JB ------------------------------ From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 96 09:36:35 EDT Subject: Re: It's my dog's birthday ! My dog's birthday is October 31st! ------------------------------ From: Craig Norton Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Looking for Desmond Hill My apologies to the list for this. I am seeking a Mr. Desmond Hill in the U.K. who I believe to be a member of the exotica mailing list. If so, would he please reply to craig@unbc.edu Thank you! Craig ------------------------------ From: Laurie Chase Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 78S? This is an overview for those wanting to collect 78's. I am no authority. I have only learned how do this thru friends and personal research. I have been collecting for 2 years, and I have over 350 78's (none of which suck). Those old 78 players are just about everywhere. It really depends on what kind you want and in what condition. You can find them in antique stores, thrift stores, and at places that specialize in old radios, etc. There are many kinds: There are the handcrank kind that you don't have to plug in (and the speaker is on the arm), there are the kind that are furniture (cool if you have the room), and there are the kind you find in thrift stores, portable or otherwise. Some will only play the real old ones, some will play them all. It is a big variety that you just have to experiment with. But it is a cheap and fun hobbie. As for the stylis, the big, thick 78 ones aren't really that important. It just depends on what your player NEEDS. If you have a player that uses one, just check with your local old radio fix-it guy. I am sure that he'd like to get rid of the ones he has had for 60 years. No matter what somebody says, the needle isn't too important. These are OLD RECORDS that have been through hell, and no prissy modern needle can kill them. Trust me on this. To clean 78's, I have heard it all. But honestly, the best way is with Windex and towels. IT WILL NOT DAMAGE THEM. They are not flimsy vinyl that will warp and crack. They can take everything imaginable, but they ARE breakable, no matter what the old labels say. Last but not least, beg as many as you can off family members who don't play them. This is a great way to hear your family's history. I acquired as many as 200 78's from older relatives who did not want them, and it was a gold mine of family history. I made a tape for my aunts and uncles, many who had not heard these songs in 60 years, and they remembered who loved which song, who played it the most, and how my grandmother would sing certain songs while cleaning their home, etc. And now my family calls me their "music historian." My contribution. Don't forget to look up the 78 QUARTERLY website on the net. This is a newsletter that is well researched and well written. Often there are contributions by Robert Crumb and Terry Zweigoff, two guys responsible for a shit load of 1990's 78 awareness. Save the 78!!! Laurie Chase Portland, OR ------------------------------ From: Indulis R Rutks Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:31:12 -0500 (CDT) Subject: How old are YOU? was: It's my birthday ! On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Susanne Stratford wrote: > What I would really like to know is how old all of us exoticons are.... > > Suze, > Lizard Lodge. Suze- I notice *you* didn't volunteer your age. I am a young 38 years! - - Indy Rutks (rutk0002@maroon.tc.umn.edu) ------------------------------ From: prospect@tt.net (Chris Strouth) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:28:50 -0500 Subject: Re: It's my birthday ! But do Leo's count? Mine is July 28 (same as Marcel Du Champ, and I think Madonna) Chris END OF TRANSMISSION... ------------------------------ From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan Dada Vis) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:44:09 +0100 Subject: Re: Charles Trenet At 14:54 10/7/96 -0600, ajackson@yorku.ca (Anthony Jackson) wrote: >Has anyone out there heard of the music of one Charles Trenet? I've just >picked up a tribute to his songs by the Guy Luypaert and his Orchestra. >It's that light and occasionally oh so flip sort of classical exotica of >the type made famous by the infamous100 Strings. > > It certainly is a sub-genre of sorts, but when done well it does have its >charms. Can anyone recommend any more of this cheesy take on the classical >tradition? Charles Trenet is (was?) a famous French "chansonnier", singer of the light classic popular song, who is still very popular in France; I haven't heard this Guy Luypaert tribute, and would myself never think of Trenet as "exotic", but that's simply because his music is so familiar to people here in Belgium and France; you may know his song "Boum" from a Belgian movie (title escapes my right now) which got quite some international attention a year or so ago. = Johan |)/\|)/\ Vis ------------------------------ From: "Kenneth H Ellzey" Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:07:36 -0400 Subject: Re: 78S? This is a subject near and dear to my heart, so I'm going to throw my 2 cents in here and there... On Jul 12, 8:50am, Laurie Chase wrote: > Subject: Re: 78S? > This is an overview for those wanting to collect 78's. I am no > authority. I have only learned how do this thru friends and personal > research. I have been collecting for 2 years, and I have over 350 78's > (none of which suck). > > > Those old 78 players are just about everywhere. It really depends on > what kind you want and in what condition. You can find them in antique > stores, thrift stores, and at places that specialize in old radios, > etc. There are many kinds: Try calling your county public schools office (the grounds and buildings maintenance division, most likely) and ask when they are going to have an auction of surplus school equipment. Go there and you are likely to find many phonographs- you remember the old classroom phonograph- that play 78's, they have a "flip-over" style needle. I did this here in N.C. and ended up with literally a pallet full of phonographs (around 15, most of which worked) for $5.00. I kid you not. Got a pallet of 16mm projectors as well for $5.00, but that's another story. > > There are the handcrank kind that you don't have to plug in > (and the speaker is on the arm), there are the kind that are furniture > (cool if you have the room), and there are the kind you find in thrift > stores, portable or otherwise. Some will only play the real old ones, > some will play them all. It is a big variety that you just have to > experiment with. But it is a cheap and fun hobbie. > > As for the stylis, the big, thick 78 ones aren't really that important. > It just depends on what your player NEEDS. If you have a player that uses > one, just check with your local old radio fix-it guy. I am sure that > he'd like to get rid of the ones he has had for 60 years. No matter > what somebody says, the needle isn't too important. These are OLD > RECORDS that have been through hell, and no prissy modern needle can > kill them. Trust me on this. I disagree. Pay attention to the stylus and get a unit meant to play 78s. Your prissy modern needle may not damage a 78 but your 78s will play hell on your prissy modern needle. > To clean 78's, I have heard it all. But honestly, the best way is with > Windex and towels. IT WILL NOT DAMAGE THEM. They are not flimsy vinyl > that will warp and crack. They can take everything imaginable, but > they ARE breakable, no matter what the old labels say. A bit of dishwashing soap and distilled water is the way I go, and don't be afraid to use a soft bristle toothbrush if need be. > Last but not least, beg as many as you can off family members who don't > play them. This is a great way to hear your family's history. I acquired > as many as 200 78's from older relatives who did not want them, and it > was a gold mine of family history. I made a tape for my aunts and > uncles, many who had not heard these songs in 60 years, and they > remembered who loved which song, who played it the most, and how my > grandmother would sing certain songs while cleaning their home, etc. And > now my family calls me their "music historian." My contribution. > > Don't forget to look up the 78 QUARTERLY website on the net. This is a > newsletter that is well researched and well written. Often there are > contributions by Robert Crumb and Terry Zweigoff, two guys responsible > for a shit load of 1990's 78 awareness. 78 Quarterly website: http://www.bluesworld.com/78Q Wolverine Antique Music Society website: http://www.teleport.com/~rfrederi Interview with Terry Zwigoff: http://www.hidwater.com:80/OTH/51feat2.html 78 rpm Record Home Page (includes info on 78rpm listserv): http://thing.oit.unc.edu/ > > Save the 78!!! > > Laurie Chase > Portland, OR >-- End of excerpt from Laurie Chase ------------------------------ From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:16:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: It's my birthday ! OK. This birthday thing is getting rather silly. For the record, I was born on the solstice, June 21, on the cusp but obviously a Gemini and am 27. Sooooooo....next year, one of you BETTER send me a Birthday email. Because NO ONE EVER WISHES ME A HAPPY BIRTHDAY. And it hurts my feelings. So if all you exotic types know it, I will be expecting some sort of greetings on that special day.... Consider yourself warned! Jill Colloquium Internet ------------------------------ From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:43:29 -0800 Subject: Re: How old are YOU? was: It's my birthday ! >On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Susanne Stratford wrote: > >> What I would really like to know is how old all of us exoticons are.... >> >> Suze, >> Lizard Lodge. Please do not take offense, but I don't think that finding out how old everyone is on the list is relevant. I sugest that if you want to reply to Susanne reply to her directly. I just don't want an abundance of e-mail on everyone's age. P.S. But happy B-day to the July-ers Marie ------------------------------ End of exotica Digest V2 #15 **************************** To subscribe to exotica Digest, send the command: subscribe exotica-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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