From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #103 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Wednesday, May 6 1998 Volume 02 : Number 103 In This Digest: (exotica) Re: arthur lyman Re: (exotica) 2525 Re: (exotica) Charles Randolph Grean Sounde (exotica) Watch out for Saturn records (exotica) Rat Pack/ onion Re: (exotica) GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica???) Re: (exotica) GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica???) (exotica) Re: GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica) Re: (exotica) 2525 (exotica) Essential reading Re: (exotica) 2525 Re: (exotica) 2525 (exotica) Syd Lawrence (exotica) Essential reading Re: (exotica) Charles Randolph Grean Sounde Re: (exotica) Re: Looking for Exotica Mp3's (exotica) Re: arthur lyman Re: (exotica) 2525 (exotica) Kilgore Trout/chris trout Re: (exotica) Watch out for Saturn records (exotica) Re: GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica) (exotica) tapes Re: (exotica) 2525 Re: (exotica) Rat Pack/ onion Re: (exotica) Essential reading Re: (exotica) tapes (exotica) How'd they do? How'd they do? How'd they do? (Bear with me) (exotica) tapes (SMYLONYLON) (exotica) Rat Pack Exotica Re: (exotica) reference books (exotica) James Bond Re: (exotica) James Bond Re[2]: (exotica) Re: Looking for Exotica Mp3's Re: (exotica) James Bond -Reply Re: (exotica) James Bond -Reply (exotica) Tina Louise (exotica) smylonylon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 23:24:27 PDT From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) Re: arthur lyman >Has anyone heard the Arthur Lyman cds, " Sonic Sixties " or " Taboo II " ? >Any reviews welcome. Mr. Lyman is better-known for his exotica stuff (meaning more along bird-noises-and-vibraphones lines), but Sonic Sixties is pretty much easy listening, with pleasant vibey versions of 60s pop hits. I liked having it around when I was doing the radio show, but I probably wouldn't listen to it much if I owned it - it's not too crazy, mellow, pretty and nice. I haven't heard Taboo II, but given the lengthy discussion a while back about whether or not Mr. Lyman is any good, I'm sure someone else has an opinion. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 08:27:04 -0700 From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 - -----Original Message----- From: Moritz R To: exotica mailing list Date: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 3:58 AM Subject: (exotica) 2525 >Cover-versions: I heard just one so far and don't even know who did >it. Laibach released a pretty scary version of 2525 a few years ago. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 08:20:11 -0700 From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Charles Randolph Grean Sounde - -----Original Message----- From: Ben Waugh To: exotica@xmission.com Date: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 6:54 AM Subject: (exotica) Charles Randolph Grean Sounde Ben asks: >Has anyone got any information on [Charles Randolph Grean]- when he was recording, with >whom, etc.? >From the liners of "Dark Shadows: The 30th Anniversary Collection" (Varese Sarabande): "Veteran record producer Charles Randolph Grean approached Dan Curtis Productions (the producer of 'Dark Shadows') in early 1969 with the idea of recording his own version of 'Quentin's Theme,' a selection which had recently been introduced on 'Dark Shadows.' Grean had heard the song after watching the show with his 16-year-old daughter, Lorin, who had previously turned her father on to another cult favorite, 'Star Trek.' As a result, Grean had produced an album with one of that series' stars, Leonard Nimoy." Greane's contributions to the Varese disc are the grooviest of all! With theremin, if I remember right. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 08:43:44 PDT From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Watch out for Saturn records I feel its time to post a warning. I ordered some LPs and a 78 set from a shop called "Saturn Records" (http://www.saturnrecords.com) on the internet at the end of January, and recieved the package some weeks ago. Unfourtunately all the 78s were crashed, due to uncareful packaging (they hadnt made any effort at all of making it arrive safely) and one of the LPs (Dennys Forbidden Island)had lots of scratches on both sides, which was strange because there grade was M-. When I complained about this they offered me the money back on the 78 set (and an additional 15% refund on my order) but wanted to see the LP before they could decide to give a refund on that. That would have costed me another $10-15, so I didnt send it to them. The irritating thing is that I have to buy from them again to get my money back, which I dont feel like at all, partly because I want to be sure to get records in a really good condition, and partly because the package I got was meant to arrive after a week (by airmail) but was delayed more than 2½ month, and I had to pay swedish custom charges at the post office to get them out. A ridiculous sum of about $40! I have had this problem once before, and specifically told Saturn Records that they had to write a smaller amount on my package than the actual value and also declare the package as a "gift" so the customs people wouldnt bother. Saturn record didnt do that... Stupid as I am I ordered from them again in february, with the same specifications, and that package is still floating around somewhere, and destined to cost me another $40!! And maybe LPs in a poor condition too. Another part of my irritation is there policy of not answering on emailed questions. They have some wonderful rare records and a goodlooking website so you would expect them to take their buisness a little more serious. My advice to You is to stay away from Saturn Records. I know I will. I am aware that they tried to come to a solution, and try to help me, so it could be worse. The problem is I dont trust their judgement anymore. Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:51:30 -0600 From: mike clifford Subject: (exotica) Rat Pack/ onion It's not exactly exotic, but we all know the works of Frank, Dean, Sammy and the rest have strong connections to the exotica/ cocktail scene. Why is the Rat Pack so popular? You can get a typically sarcastic and satirical answer to that question at http://www.theonion.com/onion3316/infograph_3316.html I thought people on this list might be interested and be able to take it with a sense of humor. mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 18:17:41 +0100 From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: Re: (exotica) GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica???) >Um, didn't Jack say he only had time to post here but didn't have time to >subscribe to or read the list? In other words, the communication is one-way >at this point, until he decides to re-join fully. So, I wouldn't expect a >response unless you e-mailed him directly. ....and what is his email address?? Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:46:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Turner Subject: Re: (exotica) GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica???) > > > >Um, didn't Jack say he only had time to post here but didn't have time to > >subscribe to or read the list? In other words, the communication is one-way > >at this point, until he decides to re-join fully. So, I wouldn't expect a > >response unless you e-mailed him directly. > > ....and what is his email address?? > jack@jackdiamond.com - -- Mark Turner | "Slow Train to Dawn" with Rocky Rococo mturner@netcom.com | Sundays 3-7AM, 89.7 KFJC, Los Altos Hills, CA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:26:51 +0200 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica) I wrote: >> i've had a chance to listen to that one, but to me it sounded >> like 99% techno + 1 % "exotic"... but i have to add that i >> rather hate techno and all that modern bonkaboonkabook stuff ;-) At 23:05 +0000 98/05/03, Moritz R replied: >I don't like techno either but can't agree on your review. especially >because techno isn't so sample-based. well, i don't _know_ anything about techno , so i can't tell if something is techno or something else... it sounded just too experimental, industrial and weird for me. >Maybe you are amongst those who didn't like Tipsy either, i LOVE tipsy. in the beginning i wasn't exactly wild about them, but after listening several times, i began to appreciate, and later on love their music... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:25:39 EDT From: DJJimmyBee Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 Zager & Evans-While Roy's Away-LP 802-B Zager & Evans-Trigger Happy ("Un" Stuff)-LP 921-F Zager & Evans-Have You Met Mr. Novak?-LP 1076-AA Single released followup to 2525: Zager has a Lager, Evans in Heaven that's all I have on them~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:33:37 -0400 From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Essential reading >The Album Cover Art Of Soundtracks, ed. by Frank Jastfelder and Stefan Kassel I also enjoyed this one very much - the large format is perfect because lots of the album covers are actually real size reproductions. I would like to add Film Posters of the 60s, by Tony Nourmand and Graham Marsh. London: Aurum Press, 1997; New York: Overlook Press, 1998. This is particularly interesting to look at in conjunction with the Album cover art book, as it has reproductions of posters of the same kinds of films, including many comparisons of posters from different countries. In particular, the Japanese posters, such as the one for 'the umbrellas of cherbourg' are fascinating. There is a cover scan of the book here: http://www.mcs.net/~klast/www/bks_film.html#posters regards Jonny P.S. Lou - Good thread! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:27:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Kerry Keane Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 On Tue, 5 May 1998, Moritz R wrote: > > "In the Year 2525" by Zager & Evans is still one of the most bizarre, > strange and, if you like, exotic ("strikingly or excitingly different or > unusual") pop songs of all times to me. > I don't know much about it, though. It kind of plays in the same league > as "The House of the Rising Sun", if you know what I mean... I don't know how exotic it is. It used to give me the creeps when I was a little kid, but it wasn't long before I realized that a brave new world in which everything just so happens to rhyme with "five" would not be likely. Still, the thought of having to subsist on a diet of chives and endive gives me the shudders. Fans of cringeworthy music ought to check out the b-side, though- one of the worst songs ever - "Mr. Turnkey", the sympathetic tale of a man who, having been convicted of rape, attempts suicide by nailing *one* wrist to the wall of his prison cell. Our would-be half-Christ, over a pious protest-folk backing, laments that his predicament is not entirely his fault: "she led me on. she knew she wasn't gonna let me love her." > 3. What became of Zager & Evans; who are they, resp. what else did they > do? Any albums? > I believe they were from Lincoln, Nebraska, where I lived for several years. I know someone who took guitar lessons from Danny Zager. She said he was "a dork". I would imagine so... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 19:49:15 +0100 From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 > >"In the Year 2525" by Zager & Evans is still one of the most bizarre, >strange and, if you like, exotic ("strikingly or excitingly different or >unusual") pop songs of all times to me. > >What became of Zager & Evans; who are they Denny Zager and Rick Evans Evans is described as a Nebraskan, and Zager 'a fellow Cornhusker' (I guess that's a code for Nebraskan too, confirmation welcomed!) Evans is pictured at an interesting page http://bubblemouth.pathfinder.com/people/rock/onehit/rick.html and the text describes Zager & Evans' bad career move: Their manager passed on a chance to play Woodstock and instead booked them to open for Engelbert Humperdinck. Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 19:49:17 +0100 From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Syd Lawrence England May 5, 1998 Bandleader Syd Lawrence died today, age 74. Most of his bread- and-butter work was as leader of a studio orchestra in TV variety shows (Les Dawson etc.), but he also toured with a Glen Miller soundalike band. HP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:47:05 -0500 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Essential reading At 01:33 PM 5/5/98 -0400, Jonathan M Perl wrote: >>The Album Cover Art Of Soundtracks, ed. by Frank Jastfelder and Stefan >Kassel >I also enjoyed this one very much - the large format is perfect because >lots of the album covers are actually real size reproductions. Didn't find this one at the store today, but I did find (and buy) one of those massive (1024 page) doorstop books that seem so popular today: VideoHound's Soundtracks, edited by Didier Deutsch (who compiles soundtracks for Rhino and Sony), forward by Lukas Kendall (ed. of Film Score Monthly), $24.95, (1998) . The book reviews over 2,000 soundtracks, rates them on a 5 dog-bone scale (ha ha - i geddit), and includes a 15 cut CD of Hollywood Records soundtrack selections. Impulse purchase - I'll know if it was worth it in a few days when I've had a chance to browse. UK magazine Gramophone also has a soundtrack book available. - --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 21:58:41 +0100 From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) Charles Randolph Grean Sounde Ben Waugh asked >Has anyone got any information on this guy - when he was recording, with >whom, etc.? I have a Ranwood LP (R8075, dated 1970) by this guy, which is - - covers of hits - - covers of TV themes (Dark Shadows, Marcus Welby) - - classical tunes modernised (a la Waldo de los Rios) Standout track is his "Peter and the wolf". The album sleeve lists Grean's CV, which includes - - Phil Harris - The Thing (composer/lyricist) - - Leonard Nimoy - Mr Spock's music from outer space (A&R) - - Jim Lowe - Green door (producer) plus a whole lot of other 1950's stuff. Was Grean a shareholder in Ranwood? Did he produce the recently discussed Exotic Guitars album on Ranwood? He is still around, and according to the web, was due to guest at a Dark Shadows fest last August. Also, Carl Russo's post mentions his daughter Lorin Grean - this lady has a folk album out on Silver Wave records, CA. Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 14:49:35 +0000 From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Looking for Exotica Mp3's Johan Dada Vis wrote: > > what are "MP3's"? > Johan! I'm suprised! Being as astute as you are, I thought that your reply was going to contain a WEALTH of sources to find MPEG layer III (MP3) files. MPEG Layer III refers to a compression scheme devised to shrink the size of audio files for storage and transmission. There are quite a few of these schemes but MP3's seem to be the most commonly used. I'm not really hip to the specs, but I think the compression ratio is around 10:1 and *reportedly* is virtually transparent to the ear. I'm rather doubtful the performance could be that good. I understand that the 'net is LOUSY with MP3 sites where one can obtain MP3 compressed sound files of songs, etc. I have been to one - Nordic Music (no URL on file) Files can be sampled and purchased for 25 cents to $1.00. I've been meaning to try it just for kicks, but you need some kind of Cyberbank account opened with a credit card, and I DO NOT SEND MY CC# over the net! I've been BURNED big time. They have some interesting stuff as I remember, though. I hear there are free sites as well. Better get there before the lawyers move in. I probably should have saved myself (and you) the trouble and waited for someone like Pea to chime in. SOMEONE on this list will have the skinny. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 17:20:39 -0500 (CDT) From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: (exotica) Re: arthur lyman >I haven't heard Taboo II, but given the lengthy discussion a while back >about whether or not Mr. Lyman is any good, I'm sure someone else has an >opinion. Taboo 2 is excellent! one of my favorites by Lyman. git it sez me. - kini visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 18:24:18 -0400 From: Mark Benton Reed Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 The album, "Exordium and Terminus" is one of my all-time faves, although it's not all that exotic except for 2525 and maybe "In the Land of Green." I luv it so much that I have it on both vinyl and 8track. Moritz R wrote: > "In the Year 2525" by Zager & Evans is still one of the most bizarre, > strange and, if you like, exotic ("strikingly or excitingly different or > unusual") pop songs of all times to me. > I don't know much about it, though. It kind of plays in the same league > as "The House of the Rising Sun", if you know what I mean... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 19:06:34 +0000 From: the_curator Subject: (exotica) Kilgore Trout/chris trout >I've been looking for Chris Trout stuff for a while and haven't had much >luck... >Today i found Kilgore Trout but it has no mention of Chris Trout... But it >does say written and produced by Kilgore Trout.... Anybody know if this >is the Chris Trout project or just something else..........??? CT now has a (rock) band called Bear who are about to realease an LP on Vespertine .... mail me off the list if you need more info ... Sem Sinatra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 19:33:22 +0000 From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Watch out for Saturn records At 08:43 AM 5/5/98 PDT, Magnus wrote: >I ordered some LPs and a 78 set from a shop called "Saturn Records"... >and recieved the package some weeks ago. Unfourtunately all the 78s were >crashed, due to uncareful packaging (they hadnt made any effort at all >of making it arrive safely) and one of the LPs (Dennys Forbidden >Island)had lots of scratches on both sides, which was strange because >there grade was M-. Sorry to hear that. I have been pleased with EVERYONE who I have dealt with so far on the internet...and the number is growing. Nauck's Records (www.78rpm.com) is most recent and THEY know how to pack. They sent me one small 10 inch transcription disk in a 5 inch thick box with double bubble wrapping and several cardboard layers. They could teach Saturn a thing or two. But what do you expect from aliens from another planet (a planet with rings even!). Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 11:00:26 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Re: GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica) Johan Dada wrote: >>i LOVE tipsy. in the beginning i wasn't exactly wild about them, but after listening several times, i began to appreciate, and later on love their music...<< You should try exactely the same thing with Gary Moscheles! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 11:00:50 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) tapes Does anybody know SMYLONYLON? It's tapes from a shop in N.Y.C. with all kinds of weird selections. They were the first "Easy Listening"-revival tapes that I know of. It's all totally illegal (no royalties, no rights to any author) but it's more like an honour to be on such a tape than a case for the lawyer... I wonder if it's possible to get them in Europe? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 10:59:55 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 Thanks, Lou, Mark, Kerry, Hugh & Jimmy Bee! I think the Raymond Le Fevre's version might be the one that I heard. Have you seen any of those albums in second hand shops or flea markets? In Germany there is just plain nothing. >> I know someone who took guitar lessons from Danny Zager. She said he was "a dork". I would imagine so..<< a dork??? Couldn't find that in my dictionary. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 11:04:30 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Rat Pack/ onion Friends of Sinatra-humour can check out the Frankieboy-homepage of my friend Stefan Stratil. It also has a brand new gallery-page with, (Uhumm!) some of my paintings... It IS exotica-related! There is a Tiki-painting. MO http://evolver.at/frankieboy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 11:05:58 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Essential reading >>The Album Cover Art Of Soundtracks, ed. by Frank Jastfelder and Stefan >Kassel >I also enjoyed this one very much - the large format is perfect because >lots of the album covers are actually real size reproductions. >>Didn't find this one at the store today...<< Check the MARINA records homepage. There is also a Peter Thomas record to come out pretty soon.... http://www.marina.com MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 04:43:01 -0600 From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) tapes >Does anybody know SMYLONYLON? It's tapes from a shop in N.Y.C. with all >kinds of weird selections. They were the first "Easy Listening"-revival >tapes that I know of. It's all totally illegal (no royalties, no rights >to any author) but it's more like an honour to be on such a tape than a >case for the lawyer... I wonder if it's possible to get them in Europe? Yeah. They've been on the go for years in New York. It's kinda weird that there hasn't been more of a mention about them on this list. Last I heard, there tapes were going more disco. Still way out stuff though. One of the guys came to my gig in NYC a couple years ago, and he was very cool - forgotton him name, damn. I believe one of the guys is in Family of God - which has some good moments on it. Just released in Europe on OCHRE Records. I am looking forward to getting my own copy soon. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 06:57:33 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) How'd they do? How'd they do? How'd they do? (Bear with me) This list is a good thing for people that want to talk about exotica, but since I was born in 1963, I have no historical perspective on the albums we discuss. I can, however, look at the Billboard chart positions of some of the people we discuss. The list is who I could think of that was listed in Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Albums book, 2nd edition. I don't own the book, so what I found out was done while some kids made more noise than I would like to hear in a library, so I forgot a couple of folks (Ferrante and Teicher, but they had 20-plus entries) some had a boatload of entries (Mancini had 39!). The book only goes back to 1955, so some things are beyond it's scope. If I listed some albums that aren't "exotica", well, I haven't heard all of the albums! The list ai not complete, is all I'm saying. Album - Chart position (year) Single - Chart position Baxter, Les Tamboo! - 6 (1956) Skins! - 21 (1957) Carroll, David (real name Nook Schrier) Let's Dance - 21 (1959) Dee, Lenny Dee-lightful - 11 (1955) Plantation Boogie - 19 Gentle on my Mind - 196 (1968) Denny, Martin Exotica! - 1 for 5 weeks! (1959) Quiet Village - 4 Quiet Village - 8 (1959) Martinique - 88 (1959) Exotica III (1959) (forgot the chart position!) A Taste of Honey - 6 (1962) Hawaii Tattoo - 123 (1965) Light, Enoch (25 entries; here are the tikilights) I Want to be Happy Cha Cha's - 38 (1959) I Want to be Happy Cha Cha - 46 Persuasive Percussion - 1 for 13 weeks! (1960) Provocative Percussion - 2 for 5 weeks (1960) Persuasive Percussion 2 - 3 (1960) Provocative Percussion 2 - 4 (1960) Persuasive Percussion 3 - 3 (1961) Stereo 35MM - 1 for 7 weeks! (1961) Persuasive Percussion 4 - 34 (1962) Big Band Bossa Nova - 8 (1962) Persuasive Percussion '66 - 144 (1966, easy to remember) Spaced Out - 191 (1970) Lyman, Arthur Taboo - 6 (1958) Taboo - 155 Yellow Bird - 10 (1961) Yellow Bird - 4 I Wish You Love - 36 (1963) Love for Sale - 43 Prado, Perez Prez - 22 (1959) Schory, Dick Music for Bang, Barroom and Harp - 11 (1959) Supercussion - 13 (1963) Sincerely Yours, Brian Phillips - 34 (1963) Brian Phillips http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar "Her JAW hung down by her KNEEheehehehees!" - from "Hot Skillet Mama" by Yochanon and Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 13:16:23 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) tapes (SMYLONYLON) >>One of the guys came to my gig in NYC a couple years ago<< You play in a band? Let's get outed! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 04:51:52 PDT From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) Rat Pack Exotica The Rat Pack "not exactly exotic"?!?!? Listen to Frank and Billy May's "On the Road to Mandalay" (_Come Fly with Me_, Capitol 1958) - it's a friggin' fabulous gong-fest! From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 06:01:34 PDT From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) reference books One of the books on my stereo shelf is A Guide to Electronic Music, by Paul Griffiths (Thames & Hudson, 1979; ISBN 0500272034). It is a small volume (127 pps), somewhat academic, but quite readable (not couched in jargon). It provides an interesting history of electronic music, discussing tape, the theremin, Robert Moog and the genesis and employment of synthesizers in various musical genres There is quite a bit of focus on composers such as Cage, Subotnick, Stockhausen and, to a lesser extent, rock musicians, but little to do with the pop of the day. The appendices include a nice list of composers and their recordings; each entry gives a brief description of the composer's style and history. bw ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 13:30:55 UT From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) James Bond There's been some debate over on the Zorn list about who wrote the James Bond theme. Barry claims it's his, but it seems it was credited to some other guy (I forget the name). Does anyone here know the real deal? PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 15:33:06 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond peter_risser@cinfin.com wrote: > There's been some debate over on the Zorn list about who wrote the James Bond > theme. Barry claims it's his, but it seems it was credited to some other guy (I > forget the name). Does anyone here know the real deal? > On my official United Artists album it says: Monty Norman John Barry arranged and conducted the music... MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 13:29:17 UT From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: Re[2]: (exotica) Re: Looking for Exotica Mp3's << MPEG Layer III refers to a compression scheme devised to shrink the size of audio files for storage and transmission. There are quite a few of these schemes but MP3's seem to be the most commonly used. I'm not really hip to the specs, but I think the compression ratio is around 10:1 and *reportedly* is virtually transparent to the ear. I'm rather doubtful the performance could be that good. >> The compression is about 10:1 (which comes to about a meg a minute) and yeah, it's virtually undetectable for most musics. The only place I've noticed break-up is on long sustained sounds, like dying piano chords. Other than that, I've never done a disc to MP3 comparison, but I imagine you lose some brightness, etc.etc. So, unless you're listening to Morton Feldman, you should be alright. There are lots of players, but my favorite is WinAmp, which is free, I think, at WinAmp.com. Then, you gotta scour FTP sites and spend your time banging up against user limits and ratios to get anything to hear. But with some persistence you can build up a library. I also make my own, which isn't too hard, and send them via Email to my friends, which is nice. I like to share. It's like making mix tapes, but one song at a time If you're really interested, set aside some time (and get a nice size line, they're big files) and do a search for MP3 Search or MP3 FTP Site. That should turn up search engines and site lists. But these sites are come and go, as they tend to be run by college kids and teenagers, and also, the big ones tend to get threatened with lawsuits by the RIAA. I've never found much Exotica, although once I found six cuts from the UL Crime Scene and some theme songs (Hawaii 5-0, Fat Albert, Mission Impossible). Mostly it's modern pop, techno and ska. So, if you're looking just for Exotica, it's probably not worth the effort, unless you connect with someone who wants to trade specifically. Anyway, that's what I know about that. PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 10:16:47 -0400 From: NATHAN MINER Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond -Reply Who can recommend a good John Barry comp?....... - - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 07:51:40 -0700 (PDT) From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond -Reply >EMI released this great three volume set on the early years of John Barry. >To be honest I like his early work than the Bond stuff. His mixture of >the electric guitar and strings are really brilliant. His 'John Barry >Seven' is similar to the Shadows, but Barry's work is much more textural. - ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books - ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 11:34:47 -0400 From: "Michael Bennet" Subject: (exotica) Tina Louise I understand that one of the Tina Louise LPs (or possibly a comp) is being reissued on CD. Is this worth searching for? Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 06:28:54 PDT From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) smylonylon >Does anybody know SMYLONYLON? It's tapes from a shop in N.Y.C. with >all kinds of weird selections. They were the first "Easy Listening"- >revival tapes that I know of. It's all totally illegal (no royalties, >no rights to any author) but it's more like an honour to be on such a >tape than a case for the lawyer... I wonder if it's possible to get >them in Europe? What great tapes they are! I have three, including one from Arkle&Sparkle, their annex store a little further up the block. Great Euro-easy, with a lot of obscure electronic stuff. The Arkle&Sparkle tape I have leans a little more towards psych stuff, with more odd noises and sped-up-or-slowed-down strangeness. They charge something like 12 bucks a tape, but I don't know if you can get them without going to the stores themselves. I like the tapes better than the stores, which sell deadstock vintage clothes (in typical NYC style, everything seems to be in really tiny sizes and is expensive for what it is) in a rummage sale configuration - piles and racks stuffed overwhelmingly full, though Arkle&Sparkle has a nicer interior, with fake fur covering the walls and odd neon signs everwhere. Worth gawking at, certainly. They're not too far from Other Music, on the same street as Liquid Sky and X-Girl. Smylonylon has a lot of plastic toys and such cemented to their exterior walls. The people who run the stores also used to have parties at some nightspot, and had a hand in the Family of Man, which I don't know too much about. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #103 *****************************