From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #1034 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Saturday, August 25 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1034 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle on solid State Records (exotica) RE: Nelson Riddle on solid State Records (exotica) Iranian Music Re: (exotica) RE: Nelson Riddle on solid State Records (exotica) TONIGHT IN NYC: EXOTICA FILMS 3: MUSIC AND MORE! at Fez (exotica) Now Sound (exotica) marc moulin's placebo Re: (exotica) Now Sound Re: (exotica) What is Now? Re: (exotica) Now Sound Re: (exotica) Now Sound (exotica) Exotica SIMILAU Re: (exotica) Exotica SIMILAU Re: (exotica) Now Sound (exotica) The Prisoner makes you think Re: (exotica) Exotica SIMILAU (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, August 26 Re: (exotica) Exotica SIMILAU Re: (exotica) Now Sound Fwd: Re: (exotica) Exotica SIMILAU Re: (exotica) Now Sound (exotica) more stuff for trading ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:09:22 -0600 From: kendoll Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle on solid State Records Domenic Ciccone wrote: > "Swing and Sway au go-go with Sammy Kaye. I ALWAYS pick up go-go LP's.. i used to too, but too many bad James Last records have made me gun-shy about anything with a go go in the title. > Jo Basile "My World"...the name rang a bell....now I remember I don't like > this guy. Lets see what this one is like...... i love Jo Basile (and also Joss Baselli, the other name he records under), especially his ...With Love series (Moscow..., Rome..., Berlin..., etc.) but a lot of that has to do with the candyapple red Lambretta on the covers (no, i'm listening to Berlin With Love right now, & i'd like it just as much without an italian scooter on the cover). mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:23:31 -0700 From: Paul Penna Subject: (exotica) RE: Nelson Riddle on solid State Records "Domenic Ciccone" said: >It pays to look around. Going thru a bunch of crap in a local flea market. >I found "Nelson Riddle: Music for Wives and Lovers" on the Solid State >record label. > >Winchester Cathedral, Wives and Lovers, A Man and A Woman Spanish Eys, Music >to Watch Girls by. Strangers in the Night. That's just side 2. Light and >groovy instrumental LP, seasoned with a cheezy organ. And none of that >annoying singing by that guy Riddle had hanging around...the one with the >hat. This is what record hunting is all about. Whatta coincidence - I just picked this up on reel-to-reel on eBay. Never heard of it before, wasn't disappointed. Seems like his only concession to the "Now" sound is the electric bass and organ, so much the better from my point of view. All in all, it's unmistakeable ol' swingin' Riddle doing tunes you never heard him do before, and in excellent sound. Wonder if they recorded it at Capitol? Another Riddle I just picked up, this time on vinyl, is on an even more obscure label, "Forward Records." "Paint Your Wagon" - with the parenthetical notation on the cover : Original Motion Picture Music was scored and conducted by Nelson Riddle. Anyway, it's all instrumental, in the recognizable Riddle style. The Andre Previn-penned numbers done specifically for the film stand out rather prominently, both because they don't sound like Frederick Loewe music, but also because Riddle gives them Now-soundish arrangements. Again, big ensemble, lots of strings, lush, Capitolish sound. Producer credit is given to Danny Kessler, a name I'm not familiar with, and I sure never heard of Forward Records before. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 01:15:16 -0400 From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) Iranian Music Is Iranian rock music exotic? Probably not, but I think most of you will be as fascinated with this article on the current status on Iranian pop music as I was. Its a world where female soloists are forbidden, and public floggings are given to black market CD marketeers, yet there is an official government sanctioned rock industry. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48576-2001Aug22.html Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 02:22:43 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Nelson Riddle on solid State Records At 07:23 PM 8/23/01 -0700, Paul Penna wrote: >Seems like his only concession to >the "Now" sound is the electric bass and organ, so much the better from my >point of view. I've been trying to figure out what the Now Sound is/was, for years now. And how to describe it when people ask me what it is. I use the term to describe virtually any instrumental version of a sixties pop/rock tune. But I don't actually think that's accurate. I put my Ventures records with the Now Sound records but I don't think they're the same thing. For one thing, a lot of Now Sound does NOT cover pop hits. It's a sound, not a list of songs. And instrumental rock pre-dated the Now Sound. For a good illustration of that, check out "Right Here, Right Now.. the big mod sound of Si Zentner". This is one of the best examples of the Now Sound I think I've ever heard and though he does cover some hit songs, the best examples of the Sound come with two original songs written by Si himself. "Double Whammy" and "Soul Machine". Anyway I was just reacting to the idea that the use of electric organ would be a "concession" to the Now Sound. I'm not arguing. I understand the idea. Even though electric organ - or even guitar - weren't really the exclusive territory of the rock band, sometimes a big band arranger would use such instruments as a way to make their sound more contemporary. Make it more rock n roll. But I don't think that's what the Now Sound is really about. I guess that's all I'm saying. (I just wrote a 45 page report on my year with a CD Recorder, including my personal history of making tapes and and the records that I recorded. And Now Sound was a big part of the story. So that's why these questions are floating around in my head. That's my excuse.) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 04:51:17 From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) TONIGHT IN NYC: EXOTICA FILMS 3: MUSIC AND MORE! at Fez The Secret Cinema presents EXOTICA FILMS 3: MUSIC AND MORE! at Fez Friday, August 24 9:30 pm (doors open 9:00 pm) Admission: $10.00 Fez 380 Lafayette Street (between E. 4th & Great Jones) New York City =95 (212) 533-2680 On Friday, August 24, the Secret Cinema will present EXOTICA FILMS 3: MUSIC AND MORE! at Fez. This collection of rare celluloid will showcase a unique collection of filmed musical performances from a variety of offbeat jazz, pop, experimental and rock artists from around the globe, combined with wondrous and colorful short films relating to jet travel, cocktails, and primitive cultures. The films come from a variety of sources, including TV shows, film jukeboxes from the 1940s ("Soundies") and 1960s ("Scopitones"), and select feature film clips.=20 Coming five years after the first Secret Cinema Exotica Films program, and two and a half years since its first sequel, EXOTICA FILMS 3 will once again feature 100% new programming -- little of which is likely to have been seen before by anybody attending! As with all Secret Cinema presentations, all of the films will be projected from 16mm film prints onto a giant movie screen (not video). Doors open at 9:00 pm. The screening begins at 9:30 pm. Admission is $10.00. Just some of the performers shown on the big screen will be: Louis Prima and Keely Smith, Sylvie Vartan, Dean Martin, Johnny Hallyday, Dalida, and a singing (and very young) Henny Youngman(!). Also seen will be amusingly-dated travel films about the South Seas and Africa, Technicolor promotional shorts about the latest developments in air travel (in the 1950s), and a drinking and driving warning that makes the cocktail scene look pretty enticing. Between reels there will be sets of vintage "now sounds," exotica music and TV themes, spun by Secret Cinema programmer Jay Schwartz. The Secret Cinema, begun in 1992, is a Philadelphia-based floating repertory film series that shows unusual and lost film fare of all types at various locations. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:16:29 +0200 From: moritzR@t-online.de (Moritz R) Subject: (exotica) Now Sound I don't think there is anything like the Now Sound except a couple of rec= ord covers that refer to the term. The expression sounds a lot like someo= ne trying in vain to invent a new trademark for something that just could= n't be coined. The lack of terms does in fact even go deeper: how would y= ou call all the music that isn't jazz, isn't rock, isn't blues, isn't fol= k, isn't experimental and isn't easy listening? but sort of influenced by= all of these... which goes for a lot of orchestral stuff that was produc= ed at that time for all kinds of purposes. it's what came out of the popu= lar branch of classical music, musicals etc., muci that is called classic= al after a while, but it was just music. And to make sure people understa= nd they buy new stuff, it's been called the Now Sound. The word implies a= certain avantgardism, it could also have been called the Tomorrow Sound,= but that would have scared off some rather conservative buyers. I doubt = that the Now Sound has any specific unique characteristics, that would es= tablish it next to the other mentioned musical directions. It has no hist= ory, no development, just came out of... now. correct me if I'm wrong! Mo ........................................= =2E............................... studio =AE http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 05:26:14 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) marc moulin's placebo I'm going to recommend an actual CD. Something European at that. It's called Marc Moulin: Placebo Sessions 1971-74 It's on Counterpoint. This is not the English band Placebo. Or any number of other bands that I'm sure are called Placebo. If you kind of like jazz but prefer it a bit more modern - a bit like Miles Davis fusion, a bit like the modern take on fake jazz being done by contemporary electronica like Cinematic Orchestra - I think you'll like this. If you like jazz or fusion but you can do without all the noodling screeching solos. If you like the sound of that stuff but you wish they'd make it just a bit more like background music, a bit more like soundtrack music. This also reminds me a bit of Soft Machine or Can. I never recommend this kind of stuff here but I love this record. I've actually had it for a few years but just had the thought you guys might like it too. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 06:01:16 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Now Sound At 11:16 AM 8/24/01 +0200, Moritz R wrote: > >I don't think there is anything like the Now Sound except a couple of record covers that refer to the term. The expression sounds a lot like someone trying in vain to invent a new trademark for something that just couldn't be coined. I doubt that the Now Sound has any specific unique characteristics, that would establish it next to the other mentioned musical directions. It has no history, no development, just came out of... now. correct me if I'm wrong! Okay you're wrong. I like correcting you but I also believe it. I can sort of understand what you're saying. I sometimes feel the same way about the term "exotica". What's that? There are a few records that called itself exotica and maybe we've extended that reference so far that it's stretched to the point of meaninglessness. What distinguishes exotica from other records? Is a "straight" Hawaiian record exotica? What about those belly dancing records which were made by actual Eastern musicians and really don't have any Western easy listening or big band influences in them? Maybe they're the true exotica. But still, when someone here says "exotica", I think I know what they mean. I love the fact that I keep finding records called "So and so NOW!" or "Billy May Today!" or like that Si Zentner record I referred to. "Right Here! Right Now!" Of course it was a marketing tool. But that doesn't negate the notion that there was a definite sound and that it was created by certain musicians with a certain background, trying to create music in a certain context. In fact, in that sense, it reminds me a lot of exotica. One of the ways it reminds me is that, in both cases, the thing we use to name it was actually tied to the "commercial" intent of the records. Exotica was created to jump on one bandwagon, Now Sound on another. I know we argue about exotica. I seem to have a less serious attitude towards it than some people here. Less sacred. So I have a feeling you'll disagree with my bandwagon notion. Maybe tell me that exotica was created out of "purer" intentions. But it doesn't matter to me whether the intentions were pure or not. Now Sound was, to my way of thinking, an invention by big band musicians trying to remain relevant. In my eyes, exotica isn't really all that exotic. And Now Sound wasn't all that relevant. Nonetheless it was a distinct musical form. I can identify it the moment I hear it. We had a discussion some time ago here about that music you'd hear on Dragnet or Hawaii 5 O when they went to interrogate hippies. The music that accompanied those scenes was Now Sound. You could identify the moment it started. When I was a kid, I'd just go "Oh there's that fake rock music again". I didn't call it Now Sound but that fake rock music was as distinct and identifiable to me as rock itself was. To some degree, I see Now Sound like this. First there was crime jazz. Then there was Spy Jazz. And then there was Now Sound. In each step, they removed some jazz and sort of went more "pop". It's kind of ironic to me that the Now Sound is in some ways, so close to the big band sound. But the kids didn't want to hear the big band sound So they had to add in other influences. In most cases, they did this mostly by covering rock tunes. But though I can't put it in musical terms, I believe they did something else too. They swung in a different way. Maybe they thought what they were doing was in fact, the absence of swing. Maybe they were trying to be a bit more heavy-handed, a bit more plodding. But I also think that since they really didn't know what the hell they were doing, they felt free to experiment. And so just like I see exotica as an interesting experiment - the creation of a hybrid - so I see Now Sound. But the bottom line is that it's an identifiable sound for the simple reason that I can always identify it when I hear it. Anyway this discussion is coming to you courtesy of one member who lives in Europe and another member who is up way way too late - and yet has to wake up again in two hours and actually work for a day somewhere other than home. Good morning everyone. Welcome to the Seminar on Now Sound. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:13:37 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Now? on 8/24/01 2:22 AM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > I've been trying to figure out what the Now Sound is/was, for years now. > And how to describe it when people ask me what it is. It was sort of my focus when I first jumped onto this wagon a few years back. I agree that The Ventures and instrumental rock in general do not fit into the Now Sound realm. I generally think of it as swing influenced by rock and roll with instrumentation not ordinarily associated with rock and roll, but with maybe a nod to it with a guitar that twangs and a snappy basic rock and roll beat backing it up, but with an aim to an "older" listener. I recently thrifted an LP by a group called The Ring Of Sound on Current Records. Current implies that Top-40 tunes might be covered by the group. The interesting thing about the LP is that the group, although absolutely within the Now Sound realm, includes Byrds-like twelve string guitar, heavy twang, and a more heavily rockin' beat. But you can also hear that they were very much influenced by TJB with the stop and start sound to their arrangements. PLUS they covered songs not ordinarily covered by Now Sound groups: "Walkin' My Cat Named Dog", "Turn Down Day", "Sign Of The Times"...A fresh find indeed....... - -- DJ Jimmy Botticelli The Groove Merchants Mobile DJ's For Hire Disco/House/Latin/Funk No Talk No Rock "The cat's in the bag. The bag's in the river" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:32:30 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: (exotica) Now Sound on 8/24/01 5:16 AM, Moritz R at moritzR@t-online.de wrote: > I don't think there is anything like the Now Sound except a couple of record > covers that refer to the term. With that in mind, I pulled a pile of Now Sound rekkids from my specially filed "Now Sound" section. For your perusal, an array of LPs that I file under "Now Sound" (this list is in no way a complete list of what I file under "Now") Jerry Ross The Jerry Ross Symposium (anything with "symposium") Bob Thiele Do The Love Percy Faith Themes For The In-Crowd Manzanilla Sound Make Mine Manzanilla Dick Hyman Keyboard Kaliedoscope/Mirrors Baja Marimba Band All LP's Bob Crewe Generation All LP's Ferrante & Teicher Getting Together/Generation Gap Enoch Light All LP's with "Discotheque" in the title Hugo Montenegro Good Vibrations Brass Ring All LP's Brass Impact All LP's Steve Allen Soulful Brass Trombones Unlimited All LP's Howard Roberts Quartet Jaunty Jolly Frank Barber Percussion Deep Percussion Terry Baxter Best of '72 - -- DJ Jimmy Botticelli The Groove Merchants Mobile DJ's For Hire Disco/House/Latin/Funk No Talk No Rock "The cat's in the bag. The bag's in the river" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:34:40 +0200 From: moritzR@t-online.de (Moritz R) Subject: Re: (exotica) Now Sound alan zweig schrieb: > > > I can sort of understand what you're saying. I sometimes feel the same= way > about the term "exotica". Exotica is much clearer to me than Now. The attempt to recreate primitive= tribal music, as was known from documentaries and the referring soundtra= cks, by use of jazz ensemble instruments plus ethnic instruments plus jun= gle sounds. slow rythms beaten on primitve drums reflecting an idea of ri= tuals in the dark accompanied with vocal choruses that try to reanimate t= ribal singing, all that is in Exotica and so clearly you can't be mistake= n about it. But Now Sound? What is it? Jimmy wrote: > I generally think of it as swing influenced by > rock and roll with instrumentation not ordinarily associated with rock = and > roll, but with maybe a nod to it with a guitar that twangs and a snappy= > basic rock and roll beat backing it up, but with an aim to an "older" > listener. > and you wrote: > Now Sound was, to my way of thinking, an invention by big band musician= s > trying to remain relevant. well, I can certainly relate to that. It's basically what i said. I still= don't see what made the music, that came out of this attempt to be relev= ant, musically unique. It was pointed out, that a lot of bands and big ba= nds covered rock songs in order to sell - or let's just say because they = were influenced by rock. Rock was covered in all kinds of ways, think of = Ananda Shankar and his sitar-versions of rock songs. Or the Ventures - as= mentioned - or bossa covers like the wonderful Satisfaction by Gary Mc F= arland. You will certainly agree that not all of this is Now Sound. Then = there are all the other musicians we constantly talk about, from Ferrante= and Teicher to Baja Marimba Band. All of them covered Rock, all of them = used a certain sound for their interpretation, some more experimental, so= me less. Some just pulled rock through another musical style - like mexic= an music in the case of BMB, some tried to be unique through the use of c= ertain instruments - if they were really hip they had some kind of synthe= sizer. But where is Now? What distiguishes the Now Sound attempts of cove= ring rock with big band means from all the others. Which are the Now soun= d examples at all? It should be possible to name at least one song that i= s typical for what you call Now Sound, like I can give you the titles of = 100 songs that are very typical for Exotica. And please choose one that I= know! Jimyy sent me a list of his Now Sound records and I know not even = a third of it. I was very surprised to read "all records by Baja Marimba = Band" in it. I would never have connected them to my vague idea of Now. > When I was a kid, I'd just go "Oh there's that fake rock music > again". I didn't call it Now Sound but that fake rock music was as dist= inct and > identifiable to me as rock itself was. But fake rock is still rock, bad rock, so to say, but rock interpretated = by a big band isn't rock, and nobody would take it as such. I thought you= wanted to limit the Now Sound definition to big bands. > And so just like I see exotica as an interesting experiment - > the creation of a hybrid - so I see Now Sound. I still don't see the experiment. what kind of experiment? the experiment= of selling records? > > But the bottom line is that it's an identifiable sound for the simple > reason that I can always identify it when I hear it. that really explains a lot! No it doesn't. At least you know what you're = talking about. I still don't have a more than very vague idea what it is.= Mo ........................................= =2E............................... studio =AE http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:59:05 +0200 (MEST) From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Exotica SIMILAU SIMILAU (Carr, Coleman) The liner notes from the A. Lyman Pearly Shells CD gives the information that this tune was made famous in the 50s by BOBBY DARIN. Anyone know this version ? Is it worth to look for ? Is it exotic ? any other great Similau versions known ? (beside Dennys and Lymans) Thanks a lot for help Martin - -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:21:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica SIMILAU Yes. I have a great version by a female vocalist...VERY exotic - reminiscent of Bas Sheva's Lust delivery. Lots of bongos. I'll check on the name and label. - --- Hemmel@gmx.net wrote: > SIMILAU (Carr, Coleman) > any other great Similau > versions known ? (beside Dennys and Lymans) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:53:38 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Now Sound At 06:34 PM 8/24/01 +0200, Moritz R wrote: .> >Exotica is much clearer to me than Now..1t. But Now Sound? What is it? I told you what (I thought) it is. Then JimmyB told you what it is to him. We both said some similar things involving swing and big band. And you're still asking what is it? I'm sorry I tried answering in the first place. I thought you actually wanted to know. I guess my mistake was trying to compare it to something you like. You're right. Exotica is as clear as mud. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:12:22 -0400 From: Jerry Nutter Subject: (exotica) The Prisoner makes you think Alan Zweig:>I hated chess because you had to think and I never liked stuff where you had to think. I liked stuff where you just use intuition. And the idea of my friends actually taking notes didn't help. Also it was kind of ponderous. Yes, it could be. The stories tended to be a bit drier than they should have been, but apparently, McGoohan would not allow any kind of romantic involvement for No. 6, as this would be falling into the very Hollywood James Bond/Matt Helm/Flint shtick. (I don't recall any trysts on Secret Agent, either.) And some episodes ended ambiguously. This is old-style sci-fi, which is more conceptual. Not just a horror movie in outer space (Alien et al), or WWII in outer space (Star Wars), or the cold war in outer space (Star Trek, where the Klingons are the Russkies and the Romulans are the Red Chinese)... >I loved Patrick McGoohan from his days on Danger Man (or Secret Agent Man >to you Yanks.) I must take issue, Secret Agent was a DULL show. The only episode which really stands out (out of 65-odd) is the one where he works as a DJ on a pirate radio station (called the Jolly Roger, I think?) off the English coast (a la Radio Caroline). >But he didn't get to do anything cool on the Prisoner. How 'bout the "Living in Harmony" episode where he's the new sheriff in a western town but won't carry a gun? Coolness is overrated, anyway. You want cool? Watch Naked City with Paul Burke or The Fugitive with David Janssen. No. 6 is just the opposite of cool, he's ready to explode! Like a caged tiger (which is exactly how he feels), always on-edge, walking stiffly, nervously snapping his fingers... The dude has more in common with Ted Kacynski than Peter Gunn! In the mid-80s there was a UK retro-psychedelic band called The Prisoners, which was a concept I found contradictory to the original premise. Imagine: five guys who go around being antisocial together! If you wanna see the "cool" McGoohan, check out the films he made in the late fifties in the UK (Since you're in the UK, it should be easy. They never get shown stateside). And how 'bout his turn in Braveheart? When he suddenly threw that fruitbasket out the window, I fell outta my chair! >Finally the idea that the Prisoner was himself "Number One" was stupid, >even if it was also obvious. I suggest that he wasn't always No. 1. The No. 1 spot was reserved for tough nuts that they couldn't crack. Recall that the last No. 2 (Leo McKern) dies during the battle of wits. But then being No. 1 is a meaningless figurehead role, because if we can't crack you (which means we let you go), why would you want to have anything to do with The Village after that? I thought it was a great show: Perhaps the most accurate depiction of the spy business mindset and most anti-government tv show ever made (including the X-Files and the awful "Nowhere Man"). Out of 17 Prisoner episodes, I count only one real clinker: The one where his mind is transplanted into some fat guy's head (I think it gave McGoohan time off to shoot "Koroshi", the Secret Agent movie?). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:23:40 -0400 From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica SIMILAU Similau became an latin/exotica standard; it was covered by Esquivel, and= Denny; in addition, says the world wide web, it was covered by Peggy Lee,= Artie Shaw, Jimmy Dorsey, Bert Kaempfert, Desi Arnaz, Caterina Valente, Edmundo Ros, the Surfaris, Sallie Blair, and... The Finks (???). I thoug= ht Les Baxter covered it, but I guess not. But isn't it a groovy list already? Hemmel@gmx.net wrote: > SIMILAU (Carr, Coleman) > > The liner notes from the A. Lyman Pearly Shells CD gives the informatio= n > that this tune was made famous in the 50s by BOBBY DARIN. Anyone know t= his > version ? Is it worth to look for ? Is it exotic ? any other great Simi= lau > versions known ? (beside Dennys and Lymans) > > Thanks a lot for help - -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 01:09:52 -0400 From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, August 26 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #157 No Smoking!! This week, we're celebrating film - the Montreal World Film Festival is on, which in itself is a good enough reason to play soundtracks. Better yet, Emir Kusturica and his No Smoking Orchestra will be playing two outdoor concerts, so Space Bop will be featuring the music of Kusturica's films and the No Smoking Orchestra. No Smoking Orchestra: Duj Sandale "Black Cat White Cat" Goran Bregovic: Kalasnjikov "Underground" Iggy Pop: Get The Money "Arizona Dream" Goran Bregovic: Borino Oro "Le Temps Des Gitans" Iggy Pop: In The Deathcar "Arizona Dream" No Smoking Orchestra: Daddy, Don't Ever Die On A Friday "Black Cat White Cat" Goran Bregovic: Underground-Cocek "Underground" No Smoking Orchestra: Long Vehicle "Black Cat White Cat" No Smoking Orchestra /Pink Evolution Mix: Pit Bull "Black Cat White Cat" No Smoking Orchestra: Dego Dance "Black Cat White Cat" Goran Bregovic: Ederlezi "Le Temps Des Gitans" Goran Bregovic: Wedding-Cocek "Underground" Goran Bregovic: Ya Ya (Ringe Ringe Raja) "Underground" Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:54:43 -0700 From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica SIMILAU Hemmel@gmx.net wrote: > any other great Similau > versions known ? (beside Dennys and Lymans) Esquivel - See it in Sound has a cool version. Probably the most "exotic" track on this album, too. - -Kevin - -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:47:17 +0200 From: moritzR@t-online.de (Moritz R) Subject: Re: (exotica) Now Sound alan zweig schrieb: > > I told you what (I thought) it is. Then JimmyB told you what it is to him. > We both said some similar things involving swing and big band. And you're > still asking what is it? I'm sorry I tried answering in the first place. > I thought you actually wanted to know. Yes, I wanted to know, but nowI regret having taken up a discussion with you at all. If you think that making a list of records, from which I know not even a third, is sufficient to explain what Now Sound is, then forget it. Forget any discurse here at the Exotica list then. It's kind of surprising though, since you usually fill this list with the lengthiest mails discussing any little detail of a subject. I'm really not here to take advices from you, such like "here's the list we decided what Now Sound is, now learn it by heart and shut up". But that's basically what you do here. If you think you're the only expert in the world, then talk to yourself. I won't read it anymore. Mo - -- ........................................................................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 09:20:16 -0500 From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Fwd: Re: (exotica) Exotica SIMILAU - ---- Begin Included Message ---- Darrell, how 'bout playing this on the Retro show. Don't believe I've heard it. From: Carl Howard Sent: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:23:40 -0400 To: Hemmel@gmx.net, exotica@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica SIMILAU Similau became an latin/exotica standard; it was covered by Esquivel, and Denny; in addition, says the world wide web, it was covered by Peggy Lee, Artie Shaw, Jimmy Dorsey, Bert Kaempfert, Desi Arnaz, Caterina Valente, Edmundo Ros, the Surfaris, Sallie Blair, and... The Finks (???). =A0I thought Les Baxter covered it, but I guess not. But isn't it a groovy list already? Hemmel@gmx.net wrote: > SIMILAU (Carr, Coleman) > > The liner notes from the A. Lyman Pearly Shells CD gives the information > that this tune was made famous in the 50s by BOBBY DARIN. Anyone know this > version ? Is it worth to look for ? Is it exotic ? any other great Similau > versions known ? (beside Dennys and Lymans) > > Thanks a lot for help - -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... =A0 The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. - ---- End Included Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:39:35 -0400 From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: Re: (exotica) Now Sound all i can say is NOW NOW boys! ;) >alan zweig schrieb: > >> >> I told you what (I thought) it is. Then JimmyB told you what it is to him. >> We both said some similar things involving swing and big band. And you're >> still asking what is it? I'm sorry I tried answering in the first place. >> I thought you actually wanted to know. > >Yes, I wanted to know, but nowI regret having taken up a discussion with >you at all. If you think that making a list of records, from which I know >not even a third, is sufficient to explain what Now Sound is, then forget >it. Forget any discurse here at the Exotica list then. It's kind of >surprising though, since you usually fill this list with the lengthiest >mails discussing any little detail of a subject. I'm really not here to >take advices from you, such like "here's the list we decided what Now >Sound is, now learn it by heart and shut up". But that's basically what >you do here. If you think you're the only expert in the world, then talk >to yourself. I won't read it anymore. > > >Mo ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ buMp "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer "Electronic Mutations from Beyond" http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:03:22 -0400 From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: (exotica) more stuff for trading this time i have a bunch of cds i am looking to trade for either cds, cdrs or vinyl before they go to ebay. Ursula 1000-the now sound of... Senor Coconut-Grand Baile con... (remastered + bonus tracks) Beat Vol.2-Lounge at Cinevox Jean-Jacques Perrey-Moog Sensations DJ Gilles Peterson-World Wide Programme One (2 discs) email me offlist at bump@defectiverecords.com b # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #1034 ******************************