From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #1041 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Saturday, September 8 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1041 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) "Adult Swim" Re: Subject: RE: (exotica) Kahimi Karie (exotica) re:cowboy bebop (exotica) mouldy old dough (exotica) Pea Hicks on Irwin's show - 9/12/01 noon-1:30pm (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music (exotica) Engineers vs Musicians Re: (exotica) Engineers vs Musicians Re: (exotica) songs for the jet set Re: (exotica) Mariah's fit (was Pea Hicks on Irwin's show - 9/12/01 noon-1:30pm) Re: (exotica) "Adult Swim" Re: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music (exotica) Kahimi Karie/McFarland's In Sound (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music (exotica) Re: The Now Sound (exotica) Is this weird or what! Re: (exotica) Kahimi Karie/McFarland's In Sound Re: Re: (exotica) Mariah's fit (was Pea Hicks on Irwin's show - 9/12/01 noon-1:30pm) (exotica) Song ID..... (exotica) Re: Ronnie Aldrich Re: (exotica) Song ID..... Re: (exotica) Is this weird or what! Re: Re: (exotica) Is this weird or what! Re: (exotica) Song ID..... Re: (exotica) Song ID..... Re: (exotica) Song ID..... (exotica) another animation link (exotica) a new addition, and some finds! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 08:46:08 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) "Adult Swim" >It is a neat opener. My 2 cents: the Hanna-Barbera deconstruction/warpings >are entertaining and even disorienting, but the real whomping piece of >work is "Cowboy Bebop". I don't know if it's the top anime ever that some >people seem to think it is, but it's darned solid. And the opening theme >(killer crime jazz) / title sequence is breathtaking. And the composer of the theme and all of the other music is Yoko Kanno. She has an amazing knack for various styles. Jazz, Heavy Metal, Country and Western, Blues, all of them show up in the series and it is mnd-boggling to believe, but it's all done by the same person (with different lyricists. She has that Les Baxter-ish (Hi, Laura!) knack. Her work for a show called "Brain-Powered" is scored for full orchestra, even. Don't believe me? Think I am joking? Think that this outfit makes me look chunky? Skip the last question and go to: http://jameswong.com/ykproject/music.html for complete sound samples. The internet adds ten pounds, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 22:18:28 +0800 From: "william" Subject: Re: Subject: RE: (exotica) Kahimi Karie >> So the above artists mentioned by El Maestro are the ones that have had some >> success or at least CD releases in the US. But let me add the following to >> the list: Puffy Amiyumi (new US release), Ayumi Hamasaki, Hi-Posi, Morning >> Musume, Speed, Every Little Thing, Utada Hikaru, & rockin' Shiina Ringo. >Holy Jap crap...believe me, the charming exoticism of these very mass >market performers dwindles after you are subjected a few months of >encounters from TV, radio, commercials, karaoke, and piped-in store >music. i'd second this. this is the very kind of japanese music i find interesting for a few seconds(if that) and then become quickly bored. pizzicato five, cornelius, and kahimi karie this definately is not. i think perhaps the further away you are from the source of this material the more exotic it appears though. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 22:26:16 +0800 From: "william" Subject: (exotica) re:cowboy bebop >but the real whomping piece of work >is "Cowboy Bebop". I don't know if it's the top anime ever that some people >seem to think it is, but it's darned solid. And the opening theme (killer >crime jazz) / title sequence is breathtaking. Some cool stuff goes on >elsewhere in the score as well -- caught one sequence scored with just >congas & bongos, very tasty. there were 5 soundtracks released from this series. cowboy bebop ost 1 cowboy bebop no disc ost 2 cowboy bebop blue ost 3 cowboy bebop vitaminless cowboy bebop remixes music for freelance its been awhile since i've listened to them, so i don't remember that much about them all. though music for freelance has bits between the songs of some radio station operating from mars. and no disc has a remix by dj food on it. from what i remember each disc has at least a few good things on it(if not more). not as good as the lupin the third ost perhaps. but still interesting. i've never seen the anime series though. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 15:28:39 +0100 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) mouldy old dough does anyone have an mp3 or such of Lieutenant Pigeons 'Mouldy Old Dough', I don't have the technology unfortunately, and need it for something here. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:18:34 -0400 From: lousmith@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Pea Hicks on Irwin's show - 9/12/01 noon-1:30pm Wednesday, September 12, Noon - 1:30pm PEA HICKS Mr. Hicks is one-half of the obsolete-tech duo Optiganally Yours, who've undertaken the thankless task of sparking a resurgence of public indifference to Mattel's early '70s lo-fi groove machine, the Optigan. OY currently record for Absolutely Kosher Records, and will be in town to perform at a CMJ showcase. He'll spin new and unreleased Optiganally Yours tracks, and will also share oddities from his personal record collection. On Irwin's show. Webcast at http://www.wfmu.org The NY Post reports that the blow that sent Mariah Carey to the hospital in July with a nervous breakdown was learning that Jennifer Lopez had laid claim to the same Yellow Magic Orchestra sample that she wanted to use. The YMO tune in dispute was "Firecracker." YMO was the Japanese supergroup that included legendary producers Ryuichi Sakamoto and Haruomi Hosono. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:16:00 -0700 From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music >Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:17:25 -0400 >From: Jerry Nutter >Subject: (exotica) ghetto-ized pop music > >Also, don't agree on your list of top sellers: As someone who's wasted a >lot of time digging through endless piles of Mitch Miller and Frankie Laine >78s at yard sales, I can testify that Louis Armstrong, the Duke and the >King sold bupkus compared to those others you mentioned. That may be true in comparison with the others, but there are other factors to take into account. During the Great Depression, record sales plummeted due to lack of disposable income and the rise of radio. By 30's standards, and in comparison to other musicians of the day, particularly black ones, Duke Ellington and Louis Armstrong sold a LOT of records. Elvis Presley sold a tremendous amount of records in a very short period of time. I was referring to the years before he entered the army primarily. One thing you have to remember as a "social archaeologist" when going through stacks of old records, the ones that survive aren't everything. There is a diproportionate number of surviving records that appealed to upper middle class tastes in the mid fifties. There are several reasons for that: 1) the poorer classes were not so consciencious about changing their steel needle with each play. Their records got thrashed quicker and were discarded, rather than being sold off or given to the Goodwill. 2) The record business post WW2 was MUCH bigger than before that. They produced many, many times more records per year than they did during the war or the thirties. 3) During the first few decades of the history of the phonograph, records were expensive and were viewed as a status symbol. The people who owned them, babied these records. That is why you see so many completely pristine collections of bat wing Victor Red Seals from the 20s... >And Caruso blows! He was the Madonna of 1910. That is a completely ridiculous opinion. I'm going to assume you don't know what you are talking about. >(His records sell for a buck apiece at record shows.) The reason they are inexpensive now has nothing to do with their quality, and has everything to do with Caruso's popularity. The price of Caruso's records in their time was between $3 and $5 apiece. That is in 1910 dollars! They cost a LOT of money back then, yet they still sold by the truckloads. The fact that enough remain today to be worth very little on the collectors market proves my point exactly. >As for marketing overtaking the music, ever heard of Johnny Ray, >guys? And Sinatra paid his bobbysoxers to swoon at his concerts! And they were both among the dozen or so most influential and creative popular singers of all time. You are using examples that contradict your point. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:21:09 -0700 From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music >Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:18:45 +0000 >From: KK >Subject: Re: (exotica) ghetto-ized pop music >Kahuna: In the eighties things started to look brighter again, with the 50s >and 60s revivals coming into play really. The concept of revival >has never left us after the eighties. It got stronger, but >increasingly shallow, and un-street. My objection to the revival movement is that they recycle without adding anything significantly new to the genre. When Dick Dale talks about Gene Krupa's drumming being influential to the development of his guitar style, he is talking about taking the influence of a previous musical style and transforming it into his own style. The Stray Cats and REM just took rockabilly and the Byrds and reprocessed them. There was no real transformation involved. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:29:32 -0700 From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Engineers vs Musicians >Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:44:25 +0000 >From: KK >Subject: Re: (exotica) The Now Sound > >The difference between the 60s music and the tunes of previous decades >is that the 60s standards were composed with a production-sound in >mind. Joe Meek, Phil Spector, Brian Wilson, Detroit and Memphis soul >etc. You had those kind of people before, like Glenn Miller or Martin >Denny, but they were recorded in the same way any other session would >be done. So more or less anybody could get that sound on a cover >version, given the same instrumentation. That is why performers of the past developed their own inimitable playing style. You could play an Ellington arrangement with the exact same charts, but without Bubber Miley, you wouldn't have the same sound at all. Try to play a Bix Beiderbecke solo from charts. It just can't be done. The difference is that in the old days, all of the creativity was on the stage with the musicians, the engineers in the booth were just trying to capture it faithfully. In the 60's, the Beatles started experimenting with different production techniques. That was great for the Beatles, because they were solid musicians in control of their sound. But for lesser musicians it was a bad way to go. In those cases, the engineers became more creative and the musicians became less creative. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 18:00:57 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: (exotica) Engineers vs Musicians on 9/6/01 4:29 PM, bigshot at bigshot@spumco.com wrote: > Try to play a Bix Beiderbecke solo from charts. It > just can't be done. on the other hand (Harry Truman always said, "Give me a one-handed economist) there was Supersax whose LP "Supersax Plays Bird" not only faithfully replayed Charlie Parker horn solos, but structured them in five part harmony at times! It can be done my friend, it can be done. - -- DJ Jimmy Botticelli The Groove Merchants Mobile DJ's For Hire Disco/House/Latin/Funk No Talk No Rock "The cat's in the bag. The bag's in the river" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 18:56:18 EDT From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) songs for the jet set In a message dated 9/5/01 11:04:43 PM, king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw writes: << not too long ago i finally picked up "songs for the jet set" that siesta comp. there is a band on here called loveletter and they cover "barbarella" and one other tune. does anyone have their full length album? does it sound like this or is it really different from the tracks that are on this? >> The full-length has the tracks on it from the "Jet Set" compilation along with a whole bunch of new ones, and while it's good, I don't think the new stuff quite hit the heights of the comp tracks. - --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 19:47:35 -0400 From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mariah's fit (was Pea Hicks on Irwin's show - 9/12/01 noon-1:30pm) At 02:18 PM 09/06/2001, Lou wrote: >The NY Post reports that the blow that sent Mariah Carey to the >hospital in July with a nervous breakdown was learning that Jennifer >Lopez had laid claim to the same Yellow Magic Orchestra sample that >she wanted to use. Pardon me, just can't hold it back... [insert 5 minutes of cruel laughter] Please Lou, more details. - --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 19:51:51 -0400 From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) "Adult Swim" >And the composer of the theme and all of the other music is Yoko >Kanno. She has an amazing knack for various styles. Jazz, Heavy Metal, >Country and Western, Blues, all of them show up in the series and it is >mnd-boggling to believe, but it's all done by the same person (with >different lyricists. She has that Les Baxter-ish (Hi, Laura!) knack. Her >work for a show called "Brain-Powered" is scored for full orchestra, even. > >http://jameswong.com/ykproject/music.html for complete sound samples. Thanks for the link, Brian. Terrific. I already know the music on Cowboy Bebop is fairly diverse, but checking her work on other projects as well, the diversity is indeed mind-boggling. I'll bet there's even some exotica-sounding stuff in there, just to complete the Baxter parallel. - --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 22:31:33 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music At 01:21 PM 9/6/01 -0700, bigshot wrote: >iThe Stray Cats and REM just took rockabilly >and the Byrds and reprocessed them. There was no real >transformation involved. Are you equating the Stray Cats and R.E.M.? Are you calling R.E.M some kind of "revival band" like the Stray Cats. If so, I'm not going to get into a big argument. I'll just quote what you said to someone else in your previous post: "That is a completely ridiculous opinion. I'm going to assume you don't know what you are talking about." I haven't really been following this thread but that caught my eye. As far as what appears to be your bigger issue, I wish I could be more definitive about it but in my experience the business of "Is the band just imitating or have they created something new?" is too subjective to argue about. I spent the evening with new friends recently. This guy is about my age and has a huge record collection. I was familiar with everything he played. A lot of it I had once owned and loved myself. But after a few hours, I had to ask him whether he had anything made after 1973. Everytime I gave him an example of a post-1973 band that he might like, given the fact that they were clearly influenced by the music he loved, he said "Yeah I've heard them. I just didn't think they were as good as (The Velvet Underground, The Byrds, the Stooges etc etc) They didn't add anything new. They're just more of the same. Why should I listen to them when I can listen to the original?" And for the umpteenth thousandth time in my life, I thought to myself "How curious that the better, more original stuff just happened to be created when you were first getting into music. How convenient is that??" Personally I don't really care if the new bands I like transformed, imitated or created something new. But I have to assume that once upon a time, there was someone who thought just about any artist you can name, was just imitating - not transforming - some previous artist. I'm sure you'll disagree. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 19:50:17 -0700 From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Kahimi Karie/McFarland's In Sound Re: Kahimi Karie. She sounds a lot like Claudine. I think that would have been what would have drawn me to her originally except that the first time I heard her I saw her live. Her voice is tiny and whispery when she sings, but that's also the way she talks. As was mentioned before, you can get a compilation of some of her good songs on the Minty Fresh release Kahimi Karie, which was the first domestic release of her work. However I highly recommend the Crue-L label EP "I Am A Kitten", which has kind of become her signature song, and none of the songs on it are on the Minty Fresh collection, which is kind of unfortunate. I know it took Minty Fresh about 3 years to secure the rights and they almost gave up on it, but luckily they didn't. She's considered a superstar in Japan, lives in Paris, loves to collaborate, sings in English, French, Japanese and Italian. Kahimi is love. Re: Gary McFarland's The In Sound. I would have to say this is the essential McFarland album. If you were to buy any McFarland album, go with this one. Also, can anyone confirm the rumor I heard about Tom Cruise planning to produce the movie about the Shaggs? It seems way to creepy to be true. Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 22:57:29 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music on 9/6/01 10:31 PM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > But I have to assume that once upon a time, there was someone who thought > just about any artist you can name, was just imitating - not transforming - > some previous artist. For Once In My Life I can say that "well-said trumps well-done"..Its really all about where YOU and you and YoU and YOu stepped into the picture, not about the truly unoriginal thoughts that circulate through your nebuli and dopamine processing centers. Middle-Age hips a fella/gal to that fact. That leads me to another version of the "why are we into 'this' " question, and that is; Do we think or feel that we have transcended the bummer enlightenment of Middle Age by finding stuff that is unacceptably acceptable? Or have we truly stumbled onto a new angle of observation. The new angle theory works for me, but I'm identifying lately as a 50% elitist and a 50% conservative--fuck all y'all--kinda guy > I'm sure you'll disagree. I'm not a gambler, but odds are in your favorbank JB/absolutely not into absolutism # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 23:19:01 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: (exotica) Re: The Now Sound M.Ace wrote: > technical definition of Now Sound. > R&B-style instrumentals with de-emphasized soul and cartoonishly > exaggerated rhythms. Alan wrote: > the standards of the sixties were quite different from the standards of the fifties > (and before) which big band and space-age bachelor lounge musicians played. > And it's not so simple as to say that it was rock n roll... > There are N.S. records which actually try to transform the fifties > standards into the new sound. And they work to some degree. But that > material always sounds different from the more modern tunes There's one other term that may help; The description found on many of the usually instrumental records that happen to have some interesting Now Sound tracks included. I've actually been using it as a clue for some time to see if I should buy the records I spot or whether to listen to those I can audition. It's particularly noticeble on the German records where they tend to uniformly add a descriptor at the end of the song, ie Foxtrot, Waltz, Rhumba or "Beat". That last one is the key word for me, and no surprise again the songs with this tag are most often pop-rock songs done by the orchestra in question. This is how I discoverd Hugo Strasser's verison of Indian Resewrvation and Black Magic Woman (though I don't think Max Gregor's "Big Train" was a rock song but probably R&B - to get back to M. Ace's comment). I have to agree with Alan's description of Now Sound being what were then unhip people trying to play "the songs the kids liked". However, what isn't clear is whether they were trying to extend their audience to the younger crowd, or trying to entice the older crowd to "think young", or both. Either way, they do have a wackiness and off the wall sound which only comes from being so totally off-base that they work at a whole different level. To follow up onthat thought, here's an intersting observation; I received a few records as a gift when I was 13, that thanks to my father having never throwing anything out, remained with me. I never liked them at all, and they were likely bought by someone's parents, thinking that these looked like the kind of records "the kids might like". Well the kids (at least myself anyway) were not amused at the time. Here's what they were: Bruce & The Robin Rockers - Batman Zero Zero Seven Band - Music from Goldfinger Various - Groovy Greats ) featuring the likes of Lou Christie, Ray Charles, and Bobby Goldsboro) And here's the description of this last record as written on the back cover: I discovered these records six or seven years ago, left in the collection in my parents basement along with the Al Hirt and Herb Alpert records my father also discarded along with the rest of the family vinyl collection. And they were, to no surprise, VERY Now Sound! The conclusion.... I obviously grew into these records, which must mean that I must be getting old myself, which may then prove that the Now Sound really was for old (well at least not young) people! Come to think of it I haven't converted too many 20 yr olds to like this stuff... Say, this discussion may be leading us down a path of discovery we may well not want to follow... Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 23:47:24 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: (exotica) Is this weird or what! James wrote: > 11. "Inuit Throat and Harp Songs". field recordings of inuit throat > singing from the early 70's. beats Radiohead any day. a Great record! but a little > pricey (i traded for it). Yikes! I got this record many years ago from traveller friends who prided themselves on always trying to find us musical souvenirs to outdo the weird things we already had in our record collection (We also got from them the Polish new wave sensation "Shakin' Dudi"). I always kept Inuit Throat & Harp Songs as a novelty, but this is the second time I've heard it seems to be a valuable item! OK I don't expect a forthcoming CD reissue, but then again with the recent publicity surrounding the Inuit filmmaker that won a prize at Cannes, who knows! ... Now if we could just hear those same Inuit Women doing a cover of say... "Downtown", things could get real weird... Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 23:16:44 -0700 From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) Kahimi Karie/McFarland's In Sound "F. Cobalt" wrote: > > Re: Kahimi Karie. She's considered a superstar in Japan, lives in Paris, Is that so? I mean the superstar part. My Japanese wife has never heard of her; in fact, I hadn't either until we returned to the US last year. - --cm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 11:36:37 -0400 From: lousmith@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Mariah's fit (was Pea Hicks on Irwin's show - 9/12/01 noon-1:30pm) I wish I could supply more details but can't. I extracted that news snippet from the WFMU Blast O Hot Air newsletter - the same place I pulled the announcement of Pea's upcoming appearance on Irwin's show. Perhaps someone who actually reads the Post and saw the original article can fill in the blanks. Oh wait -- there's always the on-line Post...yep, here's the piece: How J. Lo freaked Mariah THE blow that sent Mariah Carey to the hospital in July with a nervous breakdown was learning that Jennifer Lopez had "stolen" part of her song "Loverboy." Carey had sampled "Firecracker" by Japan's Yellow Magic Orchestra when she recorded "Loverboy" six months earlier. But Talk magazine reports that before "Loverboy" was released, J. Lo came out with "Be Real," which used the same "Firecracker" sample. Carey freaked out, convinced that her ex-husband, Sony Music chief Tommy Mottola, had a hand in giving the tracks to Lopez. A source said, "It literally drove her crazy." In June, interviewed by Allure, Carey said Lopez was styled to look like her. And when writer Vanessa Grigoriadis mentioned having met Lopez, Carey hissed, "I bet that was really intellectually stimulating. I bet you could just see the depth in her eyes." As for Lopez's claim that she gets eight hours of sleep a night, Carey snarked, "If I had the luxury of not actually having to sing my own songs, I'd do that! ! ! too." http://www.nypost.com/seven/09052001/gossip/pagesix.htm "M.Ace" wrote: > At 02:18 PM 09/06/2001, Lou wrote: >The NY Post reports that the blow that sent Mariah Carey to the >hospital in July with a nervous breakdown was learning that Jennifer >Lopez had laid claim to the same Yellow Magic Orchestra sample that >she wanted to use. Pardon me, just can't hold it back... [insert 5 minutes of cruel laughter] Please Lou, more details. - --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:44:07 -0400 From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Song ID..... Okay, there's this song I taped off of WCVT college radio (hey, Bump!) = years ago. It's about Norman Bates and sounds like UK New Wave to me. The chorus goes: My name is Norman Bates - I'm just a normal guy. At the end of the song, they use the outro from Psycho where the shrink = describes Norman's two personalities. The song ends with "Norman Bates = no longer exists." Who is this? Thanx - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 01:04:43 +0800 From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) Re: Ronnie Aldrich >anyone know which LP of his has his cover of 'Soulful Strut' on? It's on Ronnie's 'It's Happening now' unless I'm mistaken. On of many blatantly 'Now'-titled LPs he did (e.g. 'This way IN'). For some reason, I always find more interesting Phase 4 records here in the US than I ever did in the UK. The Ronnie Aldrich US releases I have are pretty good; I'm particularly partial to his ludicrous, clunky but strangely addictive version of the Beach Boys's 'Do it again'. Regarding Norrie Paramor, I have that record 'Shadows go Latin', and it's surprisingly good, quite 'Now-sound'y, but also reminiscent of discotheque records. cheers, jonny psychedelicado.com record collection reviews - http://www.psychedelicado.com/blog/archive.php - -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net ____________________________________________________ Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 18:00:27 +0100 From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Song ID..... Nathan Miner wrote: > > Okay, there's this song I taped off of WCVT college radio (hey, Bump!) years ago. It's about Norman Bates and sounds like UK New Wave to me. > > The chorus goes: My name is Norman Bates - I'm just a normal guy. > > At the end of the song, they use the outro from Psycho where the shrink describes Norman's two personalities. The song ends with "Norman Bates no longer exists." > > Who is this? Landscape? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 17:26:49 +0000 From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) Is this weird or what! re "Inuit Throat and Harp Songs". Brian wrote: I always kept Inuit Throat & >Harp Songs as a novelty, but this is the second time I've heard it seems to >be a valuable item! well the guy I bought it off of is one of those "if it's weird it must be valuable types" (maybe he's right), but I'm sure the good majority of record dealers would sell it cheap or cheapish. but enough about price. to me the record is beautifully strange stuff, and the circular breathing guttarness of it makes it sound like some Steve Reich tape-loop recording from the 60's - - but better! inuit art indeed... jb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 14:52:25 -0400 From: lousmith@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Is this weird or what! james brouwer wrote: > to me the record is beautifully strange stuff, and the circular breathing guttarness of it makes it sound like some Steve Reich tape-loop recording from the 60's - - but better! inuit art indeed... jb - -------- And there's something lovely and delightful about a type of music (or vocal game like Inuit mouth music) that always ends in laughter! http://www.unesco.org/culture/cdmusic/html_eng/canada.shtml Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:04:47 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Song ID..... > > At the end of the song, they use the outro from Psycho where the shrink > describes Norman's two personalities. The song ends with "Norman Bates > no longer exists." > > > > Who is this? > >Landscape? Yup, that's it. My brother dug this song. If you want it, there are possibilities at http://www7.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=7995286&key=56816&field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE&wild=norman+bates # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 18:32:53 -0400 From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: Re: (exotica) Song ID..... yes it was landscape. 1981 i still have that lp. it has some cool electronic rhythm tracks (especially the title track of the lp, "From the Tea-Rooms of Mars to the Hell-holes of Uranus" which is a medley of Beguine, Mambo and Tango electro-percussive tracks i was going to include a my next new wave exotica comp.) Norman Bates is the name of the song you mention jeez, i even have the video i taped off of MTV back in the day. what a dork i am. Richard James Burgess was in this band and he produced the first couple Spandau Ballet records. i think. what a super-dork i am! i better go hide in a corner. bump >Okay, there's this song I taped off of WCVT college radio (hey, Bump!) >years ago. It's about Norman Bates and sounds like UK New Wave to me. > >The chorus goes: My name is Norman Bates - I'm just a normal guy. > >At the end of the song, they use the outro from Psycho where the shrink >describes Norman's two personalities. The song ends with "Norman Bates >no longer exists." > >Who is this? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 02:03:13 GMT From: pinwhiz@ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: (exotica) Song ID..... > > yes it was landscape. 1981 > i still have that lp. > it has some cool electronic rhythm tracks (especially the title track of > the lp, "From the Tea-Rooms of Mars to the Hell-holes of Uranus" which is a > medley of Beguine, Mambo and Tango electro-percussive tracks i was going to > include a my next new wave exotica comp.) This probably shows I'm a young un' compared to some on the list, but on the subject of new wave exotica, one record which fits the bill thats a bit of a personal favourite is: "The Creatures" - "Feast" (1983) (Siouxsie Sioux + Budgie) Its a very tropical sounding record. (& recorded in Hawaii) The second record they did, "Boomerang" has quite obvious Spanish inflences. (& recorded in Spain) Cheers Mike Auckland, New Zealand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 23:13:57 -0400 From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) another animation link Since a few links to animation/video links have been submitted to the list, I thought I'd add another one of my favorites -- with an exotica Russian theme to it (courtesy of Yahoo Net Buzz) http://www.rathergood.com/vid/ Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 23:46:38 -0700 From: "Dowco" Subject: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds! Hi all, back from the hospital and winding down from a rather eventful couple of days, to say the least... my wife gave birth to a baby boy, McKinley James, last night, and I'm extremely excited to have someone to inculcate from birth into the wonderful world of music! And since I've come home (wife and son are resting comfortably), I've been chilling out by listening to a couple of my latest finds - S'Continental by Ray Conniff, and Guantanamera by the Sandpipers - I'm new to the wonderful world of exotica (and thanks mostly to this list, I've become an avid listener in the last year or so), so both of these are new to me, and I love 'em... The Sandpipers - "the now sound?" or do I not have a clue? I need to get some sleep. Suggestions for kid's music will be greatly appreciated, and I guess I just feel like telling everyone about what has turned into the most awesome day of my life! Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #1041 ******************************