From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #1076 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Tuesday, November 27 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1076 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) upload of the week Re: (exotica) upload of the week (exotica) another ghost world rave Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave RE: (exotica) another ghost world rave Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave Re: (exotica) upload of the week [none] (exotica) When threads collide (exotica) Re: Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave (exotica) Re: [none] (exotica) Lee (exotica) Sunny & Honey Machine playlist Re: (exotica) Re: (exotica) Re: When threads collide Re: (exotica) Re: Re: (exotica) Sunny & Honey Machine playlist Re: (exotica) Sunny & Honey Machine playlist Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave Re: (exotica) Quincy Jones and Saver's Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave Re: (exotica) Sunny (exotica) Re: sampling rate (exotica) [obits] Norman Granz,O.C. Smith,Bo Belinsky,Melanie Thornton,Passion Fruit Re: (exotica) wichita lineman Re: (exotica) wichita lineman (exotica) Mongo ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:53:54 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) upload of the week basic hip schrieb: > > it will get fixed. > Does this mean you will exchange those files? That would be great. Btw: the files play with Quicktime, but that's about all I can do with them. Like Philip Toast gives me a "corrupted MP3" message, when I try to drag them into the audio CD window directly. I have never tried that before, I always converted them to AIFFs. Can Toast burn MP3s directly? - --Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:01:03 +1100 From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) upload of the week on 27/11/01 10:53 PM, moritzR at moritzR@t-online.de wrote: > Can Toast burn MP3s directly? Yes Philip - -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:59:55 -0000 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) another ghost world rave Only a few ,months after our brothers in the new world, I finally got to see Ghost World. Well worth the wait, the clip of the Bollywood film 'Gunaam' is as great as described, what a wild song! (And I don't use exclamations too freely). All in all a nice companion piece to Alans film, thanks for the tip. It seems my recent social life has been based on tips from this list. Maybe I should get out more.... El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:09:19 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk schrieb: > Only a few ,months after our brothers in the new world, I finally got to see > Ghost World. Well worth the wait, sh..! I missed it. It ran only one week here. - --Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:13:23 -0000 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) another ghost world rave Shame on you Mo. Actually I thought I was going to miss it, too, but = its on its second week. And at one of the big chains, too. There is hope. Mind you nearly all the other screens were Harry Potter..... El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > > Only a few ,months after our brothers in the new world, I finally = got to > see > > Ghost World. Well worth the wait, >=20 > sh..! I missed it. It ran only one week here. >=20 > --Mo > ............................ > studio =AE > http://moritzR.de > exotica@web.de >=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:06:20 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk schrieb: > Shame on you Mo. Actually I thought I was going to miss it, too, but its > on its second week. And at one of the big chains, too. There is hope. > Mind you nearly all the other screens were Harry Potter..... > Sure. I guess Ghost World cannot be too far away from being released on DVD, so... BTW, I liked Harry Potter... - --Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:13:38 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) upload of the week With the help of Philip (thanx!) I managed to convert the Lee files and burn my CD. It worked only in mono, but that's perhaps the original files were in mono, right? Is this a mono album, or do you just use mono, because the files become too big otherwise, Mr. Hip? The record sounds like a children's record, with uncle Lee going "once upon a time there was a very friendly dragon named Leroy..." et al. You do have a preference for word records, don't you? Anyway, great to have this. A big Mahalo! - -- Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:11:37 +0000 From: thinkmatic@att.net Subject: [none] <> In a 7 page article on vinyl restoration in the Aug. '99 Digital Musician magazine, Scott Garrigus (www.Garrigus.com) wrote that vinyl recordings don't have a frequency response higher then 10 kHz and therefore a 22.05 kHz sample rate is fine. Infact to digitize them at a higher rate may emphasize the noise in the recording and not the music. Also at the 22 kHz rate click removal software works better. So even if you had 320kBit mp3s the sorce material just doesn't require that much sampling. - -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:15:33 -0000 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) When threads collide Now, this sounds just like one of the conversations in the party scene in Ghost World. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > In a 7 page article on vinyl restoration in the > Aug. '99 Digital Musician magazine, Scott Garrigus > (www.Garrigus.com) wrote that vinyl recordings don't > have a frequency response higher then 10 kHz and > therefore a 22.05 kHz sample rate is fine. Infact to > digitize them at a higher rate may emphasize the noise > in the recording and not the music. Also at the 22 kHz > rate click removal software works better. > So even if you had 320kBit mp3s the sorce material just > doesn't require that much sampling. > -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:26:12 +0000 From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: (exotica) Re: thinkmatic@att.net wrote: > > < the fidelity a bit. > 22Khz means an absolute upper frequency of half that ie > 10Khz - well below > the levels available to the human ear. Not that it > matters too much after > mp3ing them at 128Kps.>> > > In a 7 page article on vinyl restoration in the > Aug. '99 Digital Musician magazine, Scott Garrigus > (www.Garrigus.com) wrote that vinyl recordings don't > have a frequency response higher then 10 kHz and > therefore a 22.05 kHz sample rate is fine. Infact to > digitize them at a higher rate may emphasize the noise > in the recording and not the music. Also at the 22 kHz > rate click removal software works better. > > So even if you had 320kBit mp3s the sorce material just > doesn't require that much sampling. oh-ho! don't suggest this to a hi-fi buff. i thought one of the major 'faults' of CDs was that there was a hard cut-off point at 48kHz (44? i forget) and that the not-audible but still important sections of the sound was lost. whereas as LPs theoretically have a higher cut-off point, and a smoother transition to this point. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:24:28 -0600 From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave moritzR wrote: > Sure. I guess Ghost World cannot be too far away from being released on DVD, so... Amazon.com says the DVD will be out on Feb. 5, 2002 - -Indy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:21:13 -0700 From: kendoll Subject: (exotica) Re: thinkmatic@att.net wrote: > In a 7 page article on vinyl restoration in the > Aug. '99 Digital Musician magazine, Scott Garrigus > (www.Garrigus.com) wrote that vinyl recordings don't > have a frequency response higher then 10 kHz and > therefore a 22.05 kHz sample rate is fine. that can't be right. he may have been talking about 78 rpms, but later stereo LPs must have a higher frequency response than 10 kHz. anyone? mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:48:40 +0800 From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: [none] I'm also rather partial to Lee. If anyone's interested, I wrote a review of the NSVIPs, which you can read at http://www.musicaltaste.com/blog/showrecord.php?record_id=80 I'm also thankful that Lee's stuff is becoming easier to get hold of. For several years, I knew him only by 'Nancy and Lee', and cover versions other bands had done (notably UK combos Gallon Drunk's take on 'Look at that Woman' and the Earls of Suave's 'A cheat'). After a year or two, I chanced on 'Trouble is a Lonesome Town' in a record store. Then thankfully ebay, online record sellers, and the CD reissues came along... I still really regret not making it to his show in London last year though... Jonny - -- recommend songs at www.musicaltaste.com _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup 1 cent a minute calls anywhere in the U.S.! http://www.getpennytalk.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=RG9853KJ&url=http://www.getpennytalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:48:49 +0800 From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) Lee I'm also rather partial to Lee. If anyone's interested, I wrote a review of the NSVIPs, which you can read at http://www.musicaltaste.com/blog/showrecord.php?record_id=80 I'm also thankful that Lee's stuff is becoming easier to get hold of. For several years, I knew him only by 'Nancy and Lee', and cover versions other bands had done (notably UK combos Gallon Drunk's take on 'Look at that Woman' and the Earls of Suave's 'A cheat'). After a year or two, I chanced on 'Trouble is a Lonesome Town' in a record store. Then thankfully ebay, online record sellers, and the CD reissues came along... I still really regret not making it to his show in London last year though... Jonny - -- recommend songs at www.musicaltaste.com _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup 1 cent a minute calls anywhere in the U.S.! http://www.getpennytalk.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=RG9853KJ&url=http://www.getpennytalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:14:22 -0800 From: DJ Marco Subject: (exotica) Sunny & Honey Machine playlist Giovanni Berti wrote: > Actually, I'm so mad about Sunny that I am compiling an all-Sunny > versions cd (the Montefiori Cocktail's one rates high among them, > imho). Anyone who might be interested, can drop me a line.Hello: "Sunny" is the jam! I've got a great organ-based version of it by Henry Cain (Capitol, late 60s) if you need me to send you a soundfile. And I'm sure I've got more if I do some digging. Definitely let me know when you have the CD ready. My opening DJ, Franz played a nice version of "Sunny" last night at my Honey Machine club night. I don't recall the artist but it will be on my website playlist by next week at http://www.thestepgods.com/honeymachine/. By the way, I'm pleased to say that the night was a roaring success: 50+ people, a dozen or so who were dancing NONSTOP for 3 hours to these sounds and tons more: Doris: Beatmaker - CD Al Caiola: Windmills of Your Mind - LP Keith Mansfield: Powerhouse Pop - CD Stu Philips: Skip to My Mary J - LP Christie Laume: Rouge-Rouge - CD Sammy Davis Jr.: I Like the Way You Dance - LP Dudley Moore: Love Me - LP Bob Crewe & the Glitterhouse: Barbarella - LP Ananda Shankar: Jumpin' Jack Flash - CD Duke Ellington: Blue Pepper (Far East of the Blues) - CD Pic & Bill: It's Not You - 45 The Aztecs: Damelo Baby - 45 Willie Bobo: Shingaling Baby - 45 Tito Puente & His Orchestra: Hit De Bongo - CD Pussycat: Ba Ba Ba Bouf - CD Ouyang Fei Fei: Clavinet Song - CDR Unkown: Cambodian Rocks #19 - CD Asha Bosle: Kalyani Speaks/etc. - CD Hugo Montenegro: Moog Power - LP Terry Baxter Orchestra: Whole Lotta Love - LP Gianni Ferrio: Rhythm & Sex - CD Shirley Bassey: Light My Fire - CD Jane Birkin & Serge Gainsbourg: Jane B. - LP France Gall: Chanson Indienne - 45 Gabor Szabo & The California Dreamers: Are You There - LP Brigitte Bardot & Sacha Distel: Hippies - LP Lomax All Stars: Honey Machine - CD Drugs - Insights & Illusions: Melissa & LSD (excerpt) - LP Sam Fonteyn: One Way Trip (cool) - LP Julien Covey: Sweet Bacon - 12" Claudine Longet: Who Needs You - LP Sandpipers: Beyond the Valley (vocal) - CD Eddie Harris: Lovely is Today - LP Feminine Complex: Hide & Seek - CD James Last: Good Morning Starshine - LP Peggy Lee: (Sitting on the) Dock of the Bay - LP Mandingo: Black Rite - LP After doing some really DEAD nights in Raleigh NC (15 people max, definitely no dancing), I'm SO happy and VERY surprised to see that Chapel Hill can dig the heavy now sound go-go beat! Even the more mellow numbers like that James Last track got some hipshaking action. Viva la Exotica! - -Mark on 11/27/01 3:44 AM, exotica-digest at owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com wrote: >> Actually, I'm so mad about Sunny that I am compiling an all-Sunny >> versions cd (the Montefiori Cocktail's one rates high among them, >> imho). Anyone who might be interested, can drop me a line. - ----------------- DJ Marco http://www.thestepgods.com/djmarco/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:38:24 +0000 From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Michael Jemmeson wrote: > > thinkmatic@att.net wrote: > > > > < > the fidelity a bit. > > 22Khz means an absolute upper frequency of half that ie > > 10Khz - well below > > the levels available to the human ear. Not that it > > matters too much after > > mp3ing them at 128Kps.>> > > > > In a 7 page article on vinyl restoration in the > > Aug. '99 Digital Musician magazine, Scott Garrigus > > (www.Garrigus.com) wrote that vinyl recordings don't > > have a frequency response higher then 10 kHz and > > therefore a 22.05 kHz sample rate is fine. Infact to > > digitize them at a higher rate may emphasize the noise > > in the recording and not the music. Also at the 22 kHz > > rate click removal software works better. > > > > So even if you had 320kBit mp3s the sorce material just > > doesn't require that much sampling. > > oh-ho! don't suggest this to a hi-fi buff. i thought one of the major > 'faults' of CDs was that there was a hard cut-off point at 48kHz (44? i > forget) and that the not-audible but still important sections of the > sound was lost. whereas as LPs theoretically have a higher cut-off > point, and a smoother transition to this point. i'm correcting myself - sampling at 44KHz, means you can reproduce up to 22KHz sound, so LPs must have a theoretical maximum higher that this. 44Khz is far too high. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:35:43 +0000 From: thinkmatic@att.net Subject: (exotica) Re: When threads collide <> I haven’t seen the film yet, but I have to assume that the scene you’re referring to had a bunch of dorks loquaciously discussing inane, acronym laden, technical crap. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:10:34 -0500 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: >> In a 7 page article on vinyl restoration in the >> Aug. '99 Digital Musician magazine, Scott Garrigus >> (www.Garrigus.com) wrote that vinyl recordings don't >> have a frequency response higher then 10 kHz and >> therefore a 22.05 kHz sample rate is fine. > > that can't be right. he may have been talking about 78 rpms, but later stereo > LPs must have a higher frequency response than 10 kHz. anyone? The backs of the Somerset label albums used to show a range of kHz that I thought went as high as 32. That may have been wishful thinking or false advertising, but that was the claim anyway. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:15:40 -0500 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Sunny & Honey Machine playlist >> Actually, I'm so mad about Sunny that I am compiling an all-Sunny >> versions cd (the Montefiori Cocktail's one rates high among them, >> imho). Anyone who might be interested, can drop me a line.Hello: > > "Sunny" is the jam! Just as an aside, "Sunny" was extremely popular in the old USSR. I believe the preferred version was by Boney-M (definitely a super group at the time). The song is prominently featured in a terrific film called "Rodnia," in which a little girl (in fact played by a little boy, oddly enough) escapes from the tumultuous life of her divorcing parents by listening to that song again and again extra loud on her headphones. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:47:12 +0000 From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Sunny & Honey Machine playlist DJ Marco wrote: > > Giovanni Berti wrote: > > > Actually, I'm so mad about Sunny that I am compiling an all-Sunny > > versions cd (the Montefiori Cocktail's one rates high among them, > > imho). Anyone who might be interested, can drop me a line.Hello: > > "Sunny" is the jam! I've got a great organ-based version of it by Henry Cain > (Capitol, late 60s) if you need me to send you a soundfile. And I'm sure > I've got more if I do some digging. Definitely let me know when you have the > CD ready. I only recently got the original version of Sunny, and was quite surprised it was a soul track. I thought it was a songwriter-written standard, if you know what I mean. Jose Feliciano does a nice version on 'Feliciano!' ('68), but then I think all his covers are wonderful. Does Dave Pike cover it on Jazz For the Jet Set? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:22:58 -0800 (PST) From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave I can't recommend this film enough. There were collectors galore in this film, though I'm not sure if there were any accumulators. It does follow well with Alan's fantastic film. chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:25:27 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Quincy Jones and Saver's In a message dated 11/26/01 8:07:00 PM, thinkmatic@att.net writes: << "Tom Jones Live In Las Vegas" is that the one with him singing "Wichita Lineman"? >> It might be--I forget right now-- but I bought it mainly for "Bright Lights and You Girl", covered by Seks Bomba and also well done by Gene Chandler on Mercury in '70. Tom's a little hoarse on this one, but the audible female appreciation can be heard between tracks and of course the Welch soul of the man shines through on each track # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:42:32 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave In a message dated 11/27/01 7:01:16 AM, G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk writes: << It seems my recent social life has been based on tips from this list. Maybe I should get out more.... >> Unless, as suspicions have recently been expressed, that this list is really comprised of dysfunctional shut-ins...JB/merely dysfunctional # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:46:30 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Sunny In a message dated 11/27/01 12:15:18 PM, djmarco@thestepgods.com writes: << "Sunny" is the jam! I've got a great organ-based version of it by Henry Cain (Capitol, late 60s) >> Sounds Interesting...I probably have more versions of "Sunny" than just about any other tune...Interestingly enough (or maybe not) Bobby Hebb did an update called "Sunny '76" disco style on Laurie Records which managed to retain the integrity of the original and get the dancers on the floor....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:57:31 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: (exotica) Re: sampling rate thinkmatic@att.net schrieb: > > In a 7 page article on vinyl restoration in the > Aug. '99 Digital Musician magazine, Scott Garrigus > (www.Garrigus.com) wrote that vinyl recordings don't > have a frequency response higher then 10 kHz This cannot be true. I remember test records that went up to 16.000 at least. - --Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:46:56 -0500 From: Subject: (exotica) [obits] Norman Granz,O.C. Smith,Bo Belinsky,Melanie Thornton,Passion Fruit November 27, 2001 Norman Granz, Founder of Verve Records, Dies at 83 By RICHARD SEVERO,NYTimes Norman Granz, the gruff impresario who in 1944 created Jazz at the Philharmonic, a touring group that took the jazz idiom out of the smoky, noisy bars and dance halls and tucked it into sumptuous concert halls where it flourished, died on Thursday in Geneva, where he had lived, mostly in retirement, since 1959. He was 83. Mr. Granz also represented stars like Ella Fitzgerald and Oscar Peterson and championed their kind of music even though when he began, some critics attacked his musicians and their audiences as "lower-class swing enthusiasts." In all his Jazz at the Philharmonic presentations Mr. Granz emphasized that he wanted no dancing or unruly behavior when the music was played. He wanted people to listen, just as they might listen to Bach or Brahms. Mr. Granz was also the founder, in 1955, of Verve Records, with which he recorded the artists whose appearances he sponsored. Under his leadership Verve captured some of the finest jazz performances ever recorded. He sold Verve to MGM in 1960, and the label was subsequently taken over by Polygram. In 1974 he formed a second record company he called Pablo, named after Picasso, whose work he admired and collected and whose friendship he cherished. Although Mr. Granz never claimed to be anything more than an astute businessman — "If I didn't make at least $100,000 a year take-home pay, I'd quit," he boasted in 1953 — he was also a civil rights crusader. He sought to protect his many black musicians from the abuses of segregation and insisted that their concerts be open to blacks, no matter how segregated the city. He said he wanted to take Jazz at the Philharmonic to places where he "could break down segregation and discrimination." "I insisted that my musicians were to be treated with the same respect as Leonard Bernstein or Heifetz because they were just as good," he said, "both as men and musicians." Ray Brown, a bass player who for many years performed with Oscar Peterson, said: "The whole outfit was like a big family. Black musicians couldn't stay in decent hotels until Norman came along. People forget about what he did." Mr. Peterson never forgot. He named one of his sons Norman, after Mr. Granz. Mr. Peterson liked to tell the story of the time Ella Fitzgerald was about to be barred from riding in a whites-only taxi in Houston and Mr. Granz had strong words with a police official there. Fitzgerald got her ride. But in that same city Mr. Granz was later accused of running a craps game backstage, for which the police arrested him as well as Fitzgerald, Dizzy Gillespie and Illinois Jacquet. Throughout his working life Mr. Granz played down his role as a foe of segregation. "I've never tried to prove anything," he told Downbeat magazine in 1952, "except that good jazz, properly presented, could be commercially profitable." Mr. Granz was an abrupt, acerbic man — Nat Hentoff, the jazz critic, once called him "the most stubborn and brusque man I have never known" — who was known to walk onstage when Jazz at the Philharmonic was on tour, announce the artists, then turn on his heel and vanish behind the curtain without bothering to introduce himself. He had a passion for jazz, for the people who played it and for the people who wanted to listen to it. "I give people in Des Moines and El Paso the kind of jazz they could otherwise never see or hear," he said proudly in the 1950's, when his musicians were touring as many as 57 cities a year. He began Jazz at the Philharmonic in Los Angeles in 1944 with Nat King Cole and a few others, but it eventually included stars like J. J. Johnson, Benny Carter, Mr. Jacquet, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Mr. Peterson, Sarah Vaughan, Coleman Hawkins, Charlie Parker, Lester Young, Dizzy Gillespie, Billie Holiday, Buddy Rich, Roy Eldridge, Stan Getz, Flip Phillips and Zoot Sims. It toured the United States and abroad until 1957, when Mr. Granz discontinued the concerts, two years before he moved to Switzerland. For a time he also directed the professional activities of people including Jonathan Winters, Mort Sahl, Linus Pauling, Dorothy Parker and Shelly Berman. And he persuaded Fred Astaire in 1952 to sing some songs accompanied by Mr. Peterson and Charlie Shavers, recordings that jazz fans still prize. Mr. Granz was born in Los Angeles on Aug. 6, 1918. His parents had a store that failed in the Depression. As a teenager he befriended Lee Young, younger brother of the saxophonist Lester Young. Phil Schaap, a radio broadcaster who teaches jazz history at Princeton, said that through Lee, Mr. Granz gained entrance to jam sessions and thus became enraptured with the art form and excited about the possibilities of promoting it. Mr. Granz never played an instrument himself, Mr. Schaap said. After service in the Army Special Services in World War II, Mr. Granz attended the University of California at Los Angeles, where his major was philosophy. As a sophomore he talked the management of the Trouville Club in Los Angeles into letting him mount a jazz concert during the club's slow night. He insisted on listening only — no dancing — and an integrated audience. It was a success. After three years of studying philosophy, Mr. Granz came to feel, unphilosophically, that he wasn't hearing enough good music, and by good music he meant jazz. "I felt there was something lacking," he said. "Nobody was bringing together the great musicians." Cole was a fine jazz pianist who worked with a splendid trio but not yet a pop star when Mr. Granz telephoned him and suggested that he appear in concert in Los Angeles with Lester Young and Billie Holiday. He agreed, and they all appeared together in Los Angeles Philharmonic Auditorium. The occasion, besides providing good music, raised money for young Mexicans whom Mr. Granz felt had been wrongly arrested in the Zoot Suit riots of 1944. The concert was a smashing success, and within a couple of years an amorphous, ever-changing troupe of musicians and singers were touring the country under the aegis of Jazz at the Philharmonic. Mr. Granz paid all of them well. Fitzgerald, for example, earned $50,000 a year, then a tremendous sum, from the Jazz at the Philharmonic series alone. It was Mr. Granz who ultimately persuaded her to record her "songbooks" of the works of Cole Porter, the Gershwins and other great creators of American standards, recordings that kept selling into the next century. There were problems as well as triumphs. At one point Mr. Granz wanted Jazz at the Philharmonic to be booked into Kleinhaus Music Hall, owned by the city of Buffalo, in 1955. But the managers of Kleinhaus were not sure they wanted jazz there. Winifred Corey, director of the hall, said the last time jazz musicians came, "the crowd in the balcony" had "tramped their feet until you could almost feel the building shake." Mr. Granz, facing the prospect of sending his musicians into a rented movie house, canceled the concert, saying that a movie house wasn't good enough. Not for his musicians. After he started Verve, Mr. Granz began recording all of his stars before live audiences. Most people had never heard recordings made at live performances, and there were questions as to whether the public would buy such stuff. Manny Sachs, then the top jazz man at RCA, said that when he listened to Mr. Granz's recordings, all he could hear was crowd noise. His counterparts at Columbia and Decca tended to agree. But jazz buffs proved them wrong. Mr. Granz maintained that the executives at the big record companies never did understand how to record the way Verve recorded. "The major labels have never shaken that studio mind-set of control," he said. "They do a `live' album at Carnegie Hall, yet they put up a forest of mikes onstage. They balance, edit, filter and doctor the tapes. It ends up a studio date with the audience as a prop. It's all a fake." Mr. Granz is survived by his wife, Greta. He was often described as retired but never in fact retired. In 1998, after years of silence, he came up with a video showing Charlie Parker and Coleman Hawkins in the 1950's. Verve presented a gala at Carnegie Hall to observe the 50th anniversary of Jazz at the Philharmonic and Mr. Granz's accomplishments, but Mr. Granz, who felt he had never been given his due, did not attend and said: "They're 20 years too late. I'm not interested in that sort of thing now." In 1999 Oscar Peterson went to Lincoln Center to accept Mr. Granz's lifetime achievement award since Mr. Granz said he wasn't well enough to attend. Mr. Peterson said, "Norman had an unflagging will and dedication to change the bigoted and hurtful attitude of segregation he had to deal with below the Mason-Dixon line." Also: http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/329/obituaries/Norman_Granz_produced_jazz_concerts_recordings_83+.shtml ====== November 27, 2001 O.C. Smith, 65, Grammy Award Winning Singer, Dies By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS LOS ANGELES, Nov. 26 (AP) — O. C. Smith, best known for singing a Grammy Award-winning rendition of "Little Green Apples," died on Friday in Los Angeles. He was 65. Full obit at: http://nytimes.com/2001/11/27/obituaries/27OCSM.html http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/california/stories_statebrk/smith_20011123.htm ======== November 27, 2001 Bo Belinsky, the Playboy Pitcher, Dies at 64 By RICHARD GOLDSTEIN Bo Belinsky, whose pitching prowess as a rookie with the Los Angeles Angels catapulted him to the life of a Hollywood playboy and the fleeting glitter of a 1960's celebrity, died Friday at his home in Las Vegas. He was 64.<> Among his fans was Winchell, who wrote of Belinsky's feat in his widely read newspaper column. Belinsky was soon driving a red Cadillac on Sunset Strip and was dating Ann-Margret, Tina Louise and Connie Stevens. He was engaged to the actress Mamie Van Doren. Full obit at: http://nytimes.com/2001/11/27/obituaries/27BELI.html ========== Melanie Thornton/Passion Fruit http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-2001544930,00.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:12:18 EST From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) wichita lineman Don't forget the updated version Campbell did with Michelle Shocked and the Texas Tornadoes for the "Lounge-a-Palooza" compilation. And Freedy Johnston also did an excellent, though very somber, version. I have both to contribute if needed. - --Rod hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:52:07 -0500 From: "Telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) wichita lineman Rod wrote: > Don't forget the updated version Campbell did with Michelle Shocked and the > Texas Tornadoes for the "Lounge-a-Palooza" compilation. And Freedy Johnston > also did an excellent, though very somber, version. Culturcide also recorded a version where they sang new lyrics over the Campbell original. "Houston Lawman" on their "Tacky Souvenirs of Pre-Revolutionary America" lp. I can contribute as well. Allan The Mondo Bongos Homepage http://communities.msn.ca/MondoBongos # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:44:42 -0800 From: DJ Marco Subject: (exotica) Mongo on 11/25/01 2:54 AM, exotica-digest at owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com wrote: AZ wrote: > Actually I have been disappointed by his records. Those go-go girl records > are a bit same-y. It's true that his worst records are still better than > some people's best. But his somewhat earlier records - before he started > covering all the 60's rock hits - were way better than those later go-go > girl ones. Oh wow! I gotta disagree! I like his early stuff too (WATERMELON MAN is a fave of course), and sure the gogo girl records are repetitious. But if they got "that beat," that's enough for me. My favorite later period one, his 1970 Atlantic LP, FEELIN' ALRIGHT, has smoking covers of the title track, In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, Sunshine of Your Love, Hip-Hug-Her, I Can't Get Next To You, etc. A veritable goldmine of funky latin soul. Great for both my funk & go-go internacionale DJ nights. Granted, my tastes lean a little more to the '68-'72 era than yours probably do, but give it a listen. I bet you can't help but start moving when you hear that record! And hey thanks for the tips on Joe Sherman and the Arena Brass - "Promise her Anything" Bobby Gregg - "Let's Stomp" Frank Hunter and the Huntsmen- "Watermelon Man" Like I need more stuff on my want list...! - -Mark - -- DJ Marco Hammond http://www.thestepgods.com/djmarco/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #1076 ******************************