From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #1079 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Saturday, December 1 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1079 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics More reggae More ska More polka (exotica) reggae faves Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics More reggae More ska Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics Re: (exotica) reggae faves Re: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... Re: (exotica) give me a break Re: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics More reggae More ska Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics (exotica) reggae Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics Re: (exotica) give me a break RE: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics (exotica) direct link to online "eXotica Releases Overview" Update (exotica) Critiqu@rium: REVIEW: "Beat Vol. 1 - Lounge At Cinevox" (exotica) Critiqu@rium: REVIEW: "Beat Vol. 2 - Lounge At Cinevox" (exotica) More Specials More Topics More Dub Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics (exotica) more anti-copy cd news Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics Re: (exotica) More Specials RE: (exotica) More Specials More topics More reggae More ska More polka Re: (exotica) more anti-copy cd news Re: (exotica) more anti-copy cd news Re: (exotica) more anti-copy cd news ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:54:43 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics More reggae More ska More polka Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek schrieb: > > > Interesting point. It's true. It IS a bit polkaish. > > Do you really think so? > Uhm... isn't polka supposed to be OOM-pah OOM-pah and ska more like oom-PAH > oom-PAH...? > both are 4/4 rhytms with a tendency to 2/4, which makes them similar. Very different from oom-dz-pah-dz, oom-dz-pah-dz... resp. oom-dzicke-doom-dzicke, oom-dzicke-doom-dzicke, which would be real 4/4s. oom-PAH, dz-dz, oom-PAH, dz-dz is more what reggae is. Besides that reggae is slower, ska often skips the second oom-bassdrum, as in oom-pah-dz-pah, oom-pah-dz-pah... the similarity of Ska to New Wave however is, that New Wave often has this "octave bass", like an alternating low C-high C, oom-pah-oom-pah-oom-pah-oom-pah, which dominates many songs, making them unusually fast and, imho similar to Ska. No wonder Ska was the next big thing after new wave. Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 01:03:02 +0000 From: KK Subject: (exotica) reggae faves moritzR wrote: > I know what reggae has to do with exotica. > > Recent reggae finds: > > "Boss Reggae" - the guitarist of the Skatalites with an instrumental solo album - super duper! > > "Best of Harry "J" Johnson", double LP/CD, who made my absolute favorite reggae tune of all times, "The Liquidator", but also produced incredible things like "Young, Gifted And Black". On the Trojan label. I like a little bitty slice of reggae almost all year round. I don’t have many records, but the few I have I really appreciate. The best is the double LP best of Jackie Mittoo on Souljazz (Iif I remember correctly). He was a keyboarder (mostly hammond, some electric piano) at legendary Sudio One. And this music mixes so perfectly with other ALL the other stuff I like. KK http://profiles.yahoo.com/kawentzmann http://www.besonic.com/kawentzmann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:03:39 -0500 From: azed@pathcom.com Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics More reggae More ska At 10:10 PM 11/30/01 +0100, moritzR wrote: .>Interesting point. It's true. It IS a bit polkaish. But don't you like ANY polka at all? I love ska. Did you ever consider to dance, I mean, really dance to it? It's so cool. Actually it's rock'n'roll going calypso, so it has this charming - a little bit - naive element, which is absolutely exotic, because it's tribal... primitve... What do you mean by REALLY dance? I used to dance. Reggae was good for dancing. So was disco. I didn't like ska because it was too fast. I always felt like an idiot trying to keep up with the beat. It wasn't even like dancing. If fast is what's required for real dancing, count me out. And at this point, any music that is primarily meant for dancing, doesn't interest me. Ska might be good for a party but I don't like party music either. That's not an important musical quality to me. AS far as your ability to see it as exotica-related, I'm not surprised. I was just trying to expand the conversation here a bit. But if it has to be either exotica or something that you can see as exotica-related so be it. Then again blues is primitive and tribal. And most rock music is based on the blues. So let's talk about Led Zeppelin. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:09:58 -0500 From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics > >Here here! No matter how wide my musical interests expand, reggae >remains the one genre I do not embrace. Maybe it's the singing. Cause >I love dub. > >--crymad Hear, hear. I love dub in all its forms, but cannot take reggae without it. I may be just blaming it for all the bores who've liked it. Will Please note my new email address: william.straw@mcgill.ca Will Straw, Associate Professor and Acting Chair, Department of Art History and Communications Studies McGill University 853 Sherbrooke Street W. Montreal, QC H3A 2T6 Canada Phone: (514) 398 7667 Fax: (514) 398 7247 Co-Investigator, Culture of Cities Project, http://www.yorku.ca/culture_of_cities/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:23:23 -0500 From: azed@pathcom.com Subject: Re: (exotica) reggae faves At 01:03 AM 12/1/01 +0000, KK wrote: > >moritzR wrote: > >> I know what reggae has to do with exotica. >> >> Recent reggae finds: >> >> "Boss Reggae" - the guitarist of the Skatalites with an instrumental solo album - super duper! >> >> "Best of Harry "J" Johnson", double LP/CD, who made my absolute favori= te reggae tune of all times, "The Liquidator", but also produced incredible things like "Young, Gifted And Black". On the Trojan label. > >I like a little bitty slice of reggae almost all year round. I don=92t >have many records, but the few I have I really appreciate. The best is >the double LP best of Jackie Mittoo on Souljazz (Iif I remember >correctly). He was a keyboarder (mostly hammond, some electric piano) at >legendary Sudio One. =20 I like the Jackie Mittoo also and I admit that it is basically reggae but for me it's really just more groovy organ easy listening instrumental music. More like a Jimmy Smith or a Willie Mitchell record than "real" reggae. It's not the reggae beat I don't care for. And I was a reggae fan once. = I had lots of it, not just the classics. But I just got bored by it. If you like that basic beat, you might want to check out some Ernest Ranglin. He has lots of records out there. I can't vouch for all of them but a recent one called "Bomb the Bassline" is really nice. Kind of like Grant Green with a reggae beat. As for Jackie Mittoo, he moved up to Canada for some reason and did some records for the "Canadian Talent Library" label, as a leader but mostly a= s a session man. I have one of his "solo" records which is really the epitome of easy listening reggae. He covers such reggae classics as "One man woman/one woman man", "Ebb Tid= e" and "Feel like making love". It's pretty good. As long as like me, you don't mind a little easy listening with your reggae. Az=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:41:34 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... In a message dated 11/30/01 3:49:27 PM, azed@pathcom.com writes: << He was also my favorite Beatle. No particular reason. >> John was Theee Beatle IMHO...George never seemed to be quite in synch to what the Beatles were doing melodically when he stepped to the mic. "Don't Bother Me" was good, but then everything else he did had "George" written all over it, not "Beatles". I felt worst for him (besides today) when the Chiffons scored paydirt for "My Sweet Lord" sounding like "He's So Fine". That was a sham # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:42:34 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) give me a break In a message dated 11/30/01 3:55:07 PM, azed@pathcom.com writes: << But then they put up one of those messages they're getting online: "I'm glad John is there to welcome George into Rock n Roll Heaven". Are there people actually comforted by this? I guess there are. >> as long as Three Dog Night was there to lip synch the lyrics...didn't they do it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:43:36 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... In a message dated 11/30/01 3:56:49 PM, moritzR@t-online.de writes: << This is of course very subjective. Fact is, I don't like any single song Paul made after the Beatles, and that is why I made this statement. I mean, Ringo also did a couple of albums and jammed here and there, but I can't really take it serious. Paul to me, at his best, is the con-genius partner of John Lennon. >> Proving that "The whole is greater than the sum-total of its parts" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:45:00 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics More reggae More ska In a message dated 11/30/01 4:11:46 PM, moritzR@t-online.de writes: << Recent reggae finds: >> Try Jackie Mittoo, King of the Studio One Keyboard on Studio One..a double...organ groove with a reggae leaning # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:24:52 -0800 From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics Will Straw wrote: > > Hear, hear. I love dub in all its forms, but cannot take reggae without > it. I may be just blaming it for all the bores who've liked it. > You said it. The only thing worse than "laid-back" white guys who dig reggae are "laid-back" white guys who dig Jimmy Buffet. Tragically, they are often one in the same. - --crymad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 05:23:22 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics crymad schrieb: > The only thing worse than "laid-back" white guys who dig > reggae are "laid-back" white guys who dig Jimmy Buffet. Tragically, > they are often one in the same. Ah, I get it. It's a race thing. I often wondered why reggae is so especially unpopular in the States. Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:57:13 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Pearman Subject: (exotica) reggae While I'm not a huge reggae fan, there are a few reggae gems I treasure like "Satta Massaganna" by The Abyssinians -- a roots masterpiece with great harmonies, great lyrics and great percussion. Another musical landmark, in the dub genre, is "Time Warp Dub Clash" (titled "Raiders of the Lost Dub" until George Lucas found out about it) . Sly and Robbie were years ahead of their time and influenced hip hop, trip hop, techno, etc. Sean _____________________________________________________________ Enjoy the hip cats and magical martinis at the world's most famous martini bar, Chatini! http://www.chatini.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 02:32:52 -0500 From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics >Ah, I get it. It's a race thing. I often wondered why reggae is so >especially unpopular in the States. i thought it was that it can be EXTREMELY BORING. and Ganja is still illegal! I love the Dub reggae stuff and "toasters". my top five are Mikey Dread, Scientist, Mad Professor, LKJ and Dillinger. as far as straight up reggae, my top three would be Steel Pulse, Black Uhuru and Peter Tosh. 2 cent bump # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 01:47:34 -0800 From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics moritzR wrote: > > crymad schrieb: > > > The only thing worse than "laid-back" white guys who dig > > reggae are "laid-back" white guys who dig Jimmy Buffet. Tragically, > > they are often one in the same. > > Ah, I get it. It's a race thing. I often wondered why reggae is so > especially unpopular in the States. I think it's more a "laid-back" thing. That and the beer can pyramids thing. And lets not forget the spilled bong water in the dorm room thing. - --crymad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 20:53:03 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?new=20planet=20x?= Subject: Re: (exotica) give me a break yeah really, i'm sure Geo. would have laugh at that - considering he believes/d in reincarnation. Best wishes for your new life George and thanks for Taxman one of my desert island singles. Stu --- azed@pathcom.com wrote: > > Okay I just turned on CNN and there's a farewell to > George Harrison, a > somewhat welcome respite from Afghanistan. > But then they put up one of those messages they're > getting online: > > "I'm glad John is there to welcome George into Rock > n Roll Heaven". > > Are there people actually comforted by this? > > I guess there are. > > AZ http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping - - Get organised for Christmas early this year! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 06:04:17 -0500 From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: RE: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... >(Still, my money is on Ringo to win it all. He's aged better than any could >have believed, and certianly has more chutzpah than Paul.) lets hope so but is a Beatle Death Pattern emerging? seems the cooler ones are leaving first. so in my perspective, Ringo is next to go to the big Octopus's Garden in the Sky. though i hope not, he was my favorite beatle as a kid. as i grew up, john replaced ringo. i liked George cuz he did not seem to fit in. off in his mystic world which was cool. and now he's THERE! Sir Paul "Ebony and Ivory" McCartney is so dull. like a zombie. didn't he die when they thought he was dead? (i did like Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey, Live and Let Die and Jet and dare i say it, Goodnight Tonight, just for the drum machine and bassline) Did Ringo get a "SIR" too dammit? Yellow Submarine was the first 45's i ever picked out to have my parents buy for me. age 4 (or was it Judy in Disguise?) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:16:29 +0100 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update A new update to the "eXotica Releases Overview" is available now. Because I'm still "behind the times", especially with reading Exotica Digests, I'm not posting the additions here. If you would like to receive complete updates on a regular base by e-mail, just let me know you want to get on my " eXotica Releases Overview updater". The eXotica Releases Overview is part of "Dada's Exotiquarium": http://zip.to/dada Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 14:14:48 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics Bump Stadelman schrieb: > > > i thought it was that it can be EXTREMELY BORING. > and Ganja is still illegal! I don't know. Any music style can be extremely boring. We only like the good examples of any style, don't we? But as I understand Alan, he can't get comfortable with Ska in general, although he says he was into it a bit a while ago. I don't know if my "definition" of why reggae, ska or dub is exotica related or danceable or whatever, was any good... To me it is one of the few styles still in aktive living development that I still watch, and since it comes mostly from a tropical island I think it's kind of exotic. As for the Ganja argument... Pot isn't legal in most countries, yet some of them have a strong reggae scene. OK, in Holland - one of these countries - dope is kind of legal, but e.g. not in England and not in Germany, although we are not sentenced to death, when we get caught. > I love the Dub reggae stuff and "toasters". IMHO the ragamuffin direction has become too popular in MTV music these days. It mixed with rap and hip hop in a rather unpleasant way. Classical Dub on the other side: yes, always. Some of my favorite dub collection belongs to the most psychedelic music I ever heard. Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:45:28 +0100 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) direct link to online "eXotica Releases Overview" Update direct link to online "eXotica Releases Overview" Update: http://www.geocities.com/dada_vis/disq/startframe_new.htm Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:20:02 +0100 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Critiqu@rium: REVIEW: "Beat Vol. 1 - Lounge At Cinevox" New review @ Dada's Exotiquarium: http://zip.to/dada : Various Artists: "Beat Vol. 1 - Lounge At Cinevox" REVIEWED BY GUEST WRITER ROCKETFUNK RATE: ++++ very good! REVIEW: A compilation of lounge tunes from Italian action films, spy movies & sex comedies in the '60s & '70s. Many are previously unreleased and/or are on CD for the first time. The 16 Tracks on this CD are well matched. It is really easy listening, just sit back and enjoy the smooth ride that lasts the entire CD. As this is a compilation disc, I will describe each track separately. # track title artist comment (source movie) rate 01. Il Seme Di Caino Marcello Gigante & Carlo Bixio Jazzy piano, drums and overdriven synth or guitar tune. Great stuff ! (from: Il Seme Di Caino) +++++ 02. Alla Luce Del Giorno Ennio Morricone "light" "summer" song with catchy hammond tunes and "lalala" - voices. After listening to this trice, it keeps haunting in your head for days. (from: Metti Una A Cena - The Love Circle) +++++ 03. Unknit Carlo Rustichelli Hammond + overdriven guitar with great momentum (from: Il Ragazzo Che Sorride - The Smiling Boy) +++++ 04. Bakenda Beat S.Brugnolini/ L.Malatesta/ C.A.Bixio Entertaining trumpets in this song though further not interesting (from: Gungala La Pantera Nuda - Gungala The Naked Panther) +++ 05. Supermarket Goblin Hammond, hammond + more hammond. (from: Zombi - Dawn of The Dead) +++ 06. Up To Date =46red Bongusto Short Uptempo movie tune. (from: Gli Ordini Sono Orni - The Orders Are The Orders) +++ 07. 2968 Carlo Savina Music that brings a detective/cops/pursuit atmosphere into your living room (from: La Scuala delle vergini - Maiden's School) ++++ 08. Mood G.B.Martelli Entertaining jazzy song. (from: Il Dio Serpente - Djamballa - The Serpent God) +++ 09. Milano Rhythm & Blues Gianni Ferrio Jazzy/big bandy, lots' a brass. (from: La morte risale a ieri sera - Death Took Place Last Night) +++ 10. Domani Forse Giorgio Gaslini Bluesy 'leisure suit larry'-style song. (from: Rivelazioni di un maniaco sessuale al capo della squadra mobile - Revelations Of A Sex Maniac To The Police Chief) +++ 11. La Cosa Buffa Ennio Morricone Nice energetic surfy song. (from: La Cosa Buffa - The Funny Thing) ++++ 12. 5 Bambole Per La Luna D'Agosto Piero Umiliani Interesting detuned hammond chords, song with some nice turns and good hammond finale. (from: 5 Bambole Per La Luna D'Agosto - 5 Dolls For The August Moon) ++++ 13. Una Vergine Da Rubare Santini/ C.Bixio/ Santini Giorgio Entertaining movie tune. (from: Una Vergine Da Rubare - To Steal A Maiden) +++ 14. Il Dopolotta Piero Piccioni Laidback detuned hammond tune with drum finale. (from: Mimi' Metallurgico Ferito Nell'Onore - Mimi'Metallurgic, Wounded In His Honour) ++++ 15. Serata Al Night Guido & Maurizio De Angelis Catchy tune with good sax and brass (from: Afyon Oppio) ++++ 16. C'era Una Volta Un Motivo E.Simonetti/ Paolini/ Silvestri Uptempo movie tune with orchestral strings (from: Don Lurio Show) ++ SLEEVE NOTES: =2E..This is the first volume of dance floor tracks taken from the soundtracks to films that became genuine cult idols for their cinema crazed fans. =8A (Claudio Fuiano) DETAILS: artist: Various Artists title: "Beat Vol. 1 - Lounge At Cinevox" label info: CD, Cinevox Record MDF 333, Italy, 1999 16 tracks, average track length: 3:02, total CD Length : 48 minutes 41 secon= ds ________________________________________________________________________ (c) Rocketfunk - 2001 all rights reserved contact: radioexotica@yahoo.com Home Page with links to "Dada's Exotiquarium", "Zounds in cyberSpace" and "Virtual Fantastica": http://zip.to/dada direcet link to "The Critiquarium" Reviews section: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/critiq/critiq.htm | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:26:13 +0100 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Critiqu@rium: REVIEW: "Beat Vol. 2 - Lounge At Cinevox" New review @ Dada's Exotiquarium: http://zip.to/dada : Various Artists: "Beat Vol. 2 - Lounge At Cinevox" REVIEWED BY GUEST WRITER ROCKETFUNK WRITER'S RATE: ++++ VERY GOOD REVIEW: A second compilation of lounge tunes from Italian cult movies in the '60s & '70s. This CD is more energetic than the first "lounge at cinevox" compilation. Again this is a remarkable collection of tunes that make you dream a storyline. As this is a compilation disc, I will describe each track separately. # track title artist comment rate 01. 4 mosche di velluto grigio Ennio Morricone Pumping groovy track with intrigueing vocal sounds. It's the title song of a Dario Argento movie. +++++ 02. Ankara Guido e Maurizio De Angeli Flute, piano, bass and drums. This is background lounge music that sounds like the first part of "shaft". ++++ 03. Blue rhythm festival Piero Piccioni Relaxed Hammond + guitar tune. The slow tempo sounds like a deliberate attack on your patience. +++ 04. Ortica E.Simonetti - Paolini - Silvestri Tune from the Don Lurio TV show. This song starts ordinary but has a grand detuning + speeding-up finale !! ++++ 05. Pensando a te Auguato Martelli Song with good jazz guitar licks. Nice. ++++ 06. Society Rhythm & Blues S.Brugnolini - L.Malatesta Cheesy Background Music. Nice atmosphere. +++++ 07. Fai presto,fai presto Gianni Ferrio Slow soundtrack with "doodoo" female vocals. ++++ 08. Down left Carlo Savina Pink Panther/Reggae/Surf style song. Soundtrack from a movie starring Bud Spencer. +++ 09.Car chase at Margellina Guido e Maurizio De Angelis Song with an early-Zappa-alike guitar riff intermezzo after 1 minute. ++++ 10. Incompatibilita Gianni Ferrio Weeny guitar+hammond pingeling changes into a catchy tune with full blown hammond and brass halfway this song. ++++ 11. Quicksilver Giorgio Gaslini Typical movie big band style summer movie music. ++ 12. Diamonds Franco Bixio Very nice hammond in this track. Play this loud and enjoy the low freq vibrations. +++++ 13. Unceasing Carlo RustichelliThat typical overdriven synth/guitar sound again. +++++ 14. Piedone l'Africano Guido e Maurizio De Angelis Saxy Uptempo Tune. Another soundtrack from a movie starring Bud Spencer. +++ 15. Crazy sax Augusto Martelli Nice Sax and detuned synth in this one. +++ 16. Break Franco Bixio Funky, smooth rolling tune from the movie "A pugni nudi". ++++ SLEEVE NOTES: ... This record spins and shakes the big screen out of the cinema and onto the dance floor, so if you're in a revival mood, step into this cocktail lounge and let the sounds of the past take control . (Claudio Fuiano) DETAILS: artist: Various Artists title: "Beat Vol. 2 - Lounge At Cinevox" label info: Cinevox, CD: MDF 335 & Double LP: MDF 203, Italy, 2000. 16 tracks, average track length: 2:52. Total CD length: 45 minutes 53 seconds ________________________________________________________________________ (c) Rocketfunk - 2001 all rights reserved contact: radioexotica@yahoo.com Home Page with links to "Dada's Exotiquarium", "Zounds in cyberSpace" and "Virtual Fantastica": http://zip.to/dada direcet link to "The Critiquarium" Reviews section: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/critiq/critiq.htm | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:02:59 EST From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: (exotica) More Specials More Topics More Dub In a message dated 12/1/01 5:16:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, moritzR@t-online.de writes: << > I love the Dub reggae stuff and "toasters". IMHO the ragamuffin direction has become too popular in MTV music these days. It mixed with rap and hip hop in a rather unpleasant way. Classical Dub on the other side: yes, always. Some of my favorite dub collection belongs to the most psychedelic music I ever heard. >> "Ragamuffin" and the shiny happy Dancehall stuff (or are they the same) helped to ruin reggae by the 90s (though there are probably still pockets of resistance here and there). I'll admit that some of the earlier and/or more rootsy stuff is pretty cool (though I couldn't get into, say, Marley, as much as I tried). I admit some of the punk-meets-reggae tunes - from the likes of the Clash, Ruts, some Slits, especially the Offs - could be cool, when done right. And of course, without dub, post-punk would have been a very different place indeed. (Just tried to imagine PiL's "Second Edition" if dub had never existed!) - -DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 12:45:45 -0500 From: azed@pathcom.com Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics At 05:23 AM 12/1/01 +0100, moritzR wrote: > >Ah, I get it. It's a race thing. I often wondered why reggae is so especially unpopular in the States. I don't know if you're being facetious but actually race doesn't explain much here. Or at least not the way you seem to be implying. For instance, it doesn't explain why reggae was also so unpopular with American blacks. Reggae was huge in Canada for a while. Or maybe just Toronto, I'm not sure. But in spite of our large Jamaican population here, it was the white people who made reggae huge. Now this is very unscientific but I talked to a number of black people who hated reggae. And I read articles where similar sentiments were expressed. And their "reason" for avoiding reggae was that essentially it represented an image of the black man that they wanted to distance themselves from. Whether it was just image or not, reggae musicians were closer to the primitive, even the "savage". Closer to nature. Up there in the hills, shirtless, smoking giant spliffs. Going native. Which was a romantic fantasy for us white folks. But kinda "been there, done that" for American blacks. It's sort of interesting to measure this perspective against the popularity of hip hop with whites and blacks. And on the other hand, there's the virtual disappearance of "soul" music as we once knew it. Grunting, sweating R&B a la James Brown, Wilson Pickett, Otis Redding. Now it's all kind of smoothed out. They use the terms "soul" and "R&B" but it's not the soul I grew up with. It may be about race. In a sense, everything is. But it's not simple. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 13:00:47 -0500 From: azed@pathcom.com Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics At 02:14 PM 12/1/01 +0100, moritzR wrote: > But as I understand Alan, he can't get comfortable with Ska in general, although he says he was into it a bit a while ago. That sounds pretty wishy-washy. A friend of mine once explained to me the way his musical taste changed as he got older. And he did it better than I could but essentially what he said was that "When we're younger, our emotions are much more simple. And singular. We're angry. We're sad. There aren't a lot of shades to it. No ambiguity or ambivalence. So when we seek out music to match our moods, we go to music that also expresses those emotions in more stark, more simple. I'm angry. Give me some Stooges. I just want to dance. Give me some ska. I just want to jump up and down and bump into people. Give me some punky reggae ska. Etc. " Then you get older and your emotions are more subtle. And you want music to reflect that. Now I'm not sure that explains my present musical tastes. I especially don't know how it explains my easy listening tastes. But in a sense it does. Instrumental music doesn't direct your emotions the way music with lyrics does. But even if my friend's explanation doesn't completely explain the breadth of my taste, I think it does explain the musical genres that have fallen by the wayside for me. I'm never in the mood to just lose my mind in the dance. Or jump in the mosh pit and bang up against all the other men. It's not that I don't have those emotions anymore. But they're seldom that simple anymore. That may not explain why you DO like ska but I think it goes some way to explaining why I don't. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 13:58:44 -0500 From: "M.Ace" Subject: (exotica) more anti-copy cd news Latest item: http://www.modbee.com/24hour/entertainment/story/183508p-1775112c.html M.Ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 14:18:01 -0500 From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics At 12:45 PM 12/01/2001, AZ wrote: >Now it's all kind of smoothed out. They use the terms "soul" and "R&B" but >it's not the soul I grew up with. I call it robo-soul. The robotic quality is probably exaggerated by the heavy use of midi programming and loops for the backing and heavy digital tweaking to make the vocals absolutely (unnaturally) perfect. It gives me claustrophobia or something like that. - --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 14:41:09 -0500 From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials At 09:13 PM 11/30/2001, Mo wrote: >Which is like disco with wave elements. Or wave going discoish... I remember a friend trying to explain the Delta 5 to his father as punk with a disco beat or some such, and his father suggested, "Oh, so it's 'dunk'." > > new wave > > as comparable to exotica and space age pop for the way it veered away from > > the puritan orthodoxy of guitar rock to more clever and colorful > > arrangements using a wider variety of sounds and styles. > >well, this would be not a very "immanent" category. Musically New Wave >actually has elements of Ska, Kraut Rock, Punk and electronic avantgarde. >Above all I think it was a conceptual movement; it had some kind of >message, so anything that was "anti" the mainstream could be New Wave. In >that way you are right. But exotica in comparison never had an attitude >"against the establishment" ... OK, I see what you mean, and I wouldn't try to push new wave as exotica per se (and, Alan, I'm not trying to justify it as appropriate for list discussion)... But I think there's a definite parallel (lines) between the new wave (and punk) fascination for ska, reggae and quasi-tribal beats and the 50s/60s fascination for cha cha, rhumba, calypso, bossa nova, etc. M.Ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 14:51:15 -0500 From: "M.Ace" Subject: RE: (exotica) More Specials More topics More reggae More ska More polka At 10:22 PM 11/30/2001, various people wrote: > > > One of the few musical genres that I continue to hate. > > > It reminds me too much of polka and the macarena. > > > Interesting point. It's true. It IS a bit polkaish. > >Do you really think so? >Uhm... isn't polka supposed to be OOM-pah OOM-pah and ska more like oom-PAH >oom-PAH...? >I mean, they're both in 4/4 time, but the accentuation is different. Maybe I >should play a polka record and a ska record back to back to hear the >similarties that you refer to. I hear the same thread running through a whole bunch of (for lack of a better term) working class dance musics: Polka, Tejano, Conjunto, Ranchero, Cajun, Creole, Ska... That simple-to-dance-to 1-2 feel wrapped up in a variety of ethnic settings. But the Macarena? - --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:52:12 EST From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) more anti-copy cd news This is very bad news for me. I love to make homemade CDs for myself with favorite songs, various artists, etc. It's not like I sell them, I copy them so I have a whole CD of music that I love. Killer, no filler, you see? I wouldn't buy a CD if I didn't have the freedom to copy songs from them. At times the industry shoots itself in the foot. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 12:36:21 -0800 From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) more anti-copy cd news At 10:58 AM 12/1/01, M. Ace wrote with the URL for a story about protection against making digital copies of CDs. - --- It doesn't bother me TOO much about the inability to make DIGITAL copies of CDs. Analog copies are good enough for me. What bothers me is that these copy protected CDs generally are incompatible with CD-ROM drives. Many people I know like to listen to CDs via their computer CD-ROM drive at work (although those same folks are wising up and turning all their music into mp3s so one CD can hold more music). Byron ___...--''''***^^^^^^""""""^^^^^***''''---___ "Life is short. Stay happy." ||| ||| ---May 2001 aol.com tv advert ||| |||bag AT hubris DOT net...Saint Johns, ||| |||Portlandistan, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol ||| """^^^'''***----...__________...----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:42:13 EST From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) more anti-copy cd news In a message dated 12/1/01 12:39:25 PM, bag@hubris.net writes: << It doesn't bother me TOO much about the inability to make DIGITAL copies of CDs. Analog copies are good enough for me. >> I'm not sure what you mean here. If I try to burn one of these copy-protected CDs on my stereo component CD Burner (NOT a computer burner), is this digital or analog? Sorry, I'm not a computer nerd. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #1079 ******************************