From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #1088 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Friday, December 21 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1088 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle &... Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle...Esquivel Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle...Esquivel...Kraftwerk Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle &... Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle Re: (exotica) Mmmmmm.............Kookie! / & Palm Springs Weekend Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle &... 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RE: (exotica) Public Libraries Re: (exotica) JD and the Evils Dynamite band Re: (exotica) Mutantes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:07:31 -0200 From: "Peter Zarustica, the King of Prussia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle &... > You asked if there were any other Nelson Riddle fans out there. > I'm becoming a Nelson Riddle fan. I found a great crime jazzy soundtrack > not too long ago called "The Rogues". I like it a lot. I want more like > it. I then realized that the Batman TV Soundtrack I had is also Nelson > Riddle. Then while making a compilation CD, I noticed that the Linda > Ronstadt records were Nelson Riddle. I know he's worked with Sinatra. Yeah he is the man that turned Sinatra into a sophisticated artist, we can tell that. Great work in the original Batman Sountrack, Holy Fly Paper is ace!!! I listen to it since I was a little kid yeah. Nelson Riddle's orchestrations and arrangements are sooo nice, I love it. I am becoming a fan of Esquivel, do you know him? I've been listening to it for a yar now and I really dig it. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:34:43 -0800 From: "Doug Dale" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle...Esquivel I think we all like Esquivel! He was what introduced me to this strange and wonderful style of music talkedabout here on the list. My brother gave me the Space Age Pop compilation and after a couple of listens, I craved more! I never knew what great and corny stuff was made long ago. Again, welcome to the list. If you like Nelson Riddle and Esquivel, maybe I should find out more about Kraftwerk, Klf and Orb, which you mentioned liking in your first post. Not familiar with them. Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:55:13 -0600 From: Mimi Mayer Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle...Esquivel...Kraftwerk Peter and Doug and anybody...Kraftwerk has a most beauteous Flash site at http://www.kraftwerk.com/. Enjoy, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:32:35 -0500 From: azed@pathcom.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle &... At 04:07 PM 12/20/01 -0200, Peter Zarustica, the King of Prussia wrote: >. Nelson Riddle's >orchestrations and arrangements are sooo nice, I love it. > >I am becoming a fan of Esquivel, do you know him? I've been listening to it >for a yar now and I really dig it. Hi Peter, welcome to the list. We're all a bit jaded at this point. For us, Esquivel is so 1998. But seriously, this list, which is probably around eight years old (somebody will correct me if I'm wrong) was basically founded around the music of Esquivel along with Les Baxter, Martin Denny etc. I've only been here a little less than four years myself - it seems like longer - and back when I joined, which was during the heart of the "lounge revival", there were probably a dozen posts about Esquivel every single day. A couple of people lurking here are even personal friends of his, I'm pretty sure. I'm not trying to embarrass you about your question. I'm only trying to say that this list sort of ain't what it used to be but the people on it still are. So nobody's saying anything but yeah, most of them probably love Esquivel and if you ask any questions or advice about his recordings, they'll tell you more than you ever wanted to know. As far as Nelson Riddle goes, all I can say is that for me he's on a list with probably a couple of dozen other arrangers who were involved in hundreds of records and if I see a record of theirs in a "genre" I like, I know there's a good chance I'm going to like it. I've had a bunch of his records where he did hits of the sixties and they were all good. He has a great TV theme record - in the sort of spy-jazz genre - called "Route 66 and other hits" which I love. I knew the name Nelson Riddle even before I started down the easy listening, lounge tributary five or six years ago. But now, like i said, I have another couple dozen names of, I think, equally great bandleaders and arrangers who on any given day could make a great record. Having said that, I don't like any of them so much that I'd buy "Percy Faith plays the hits from Oklahoma" or "Nelson Riddle plays songs Celine Dion used to sing with her 13 brothers and sisters at Xmas in Quebec". If you know what I mean. But "Percy Faith plays the Beatles" or "Don Costa plays the hits of Simon and Garfunkel", that's another thing entirely. Anyway like I said. welcome to the list. Maybe some of my jaded fellows will now come out of the woodwork to tell you not to listen to an old crank like me. And while they're at it, maybe they'll tell you something about Esquivel. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:14:02 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle In a message dated 12/19/01 10:57:19 PM, brett@echonyc.com writes: << There was a feature on Riddle during yesterday's Morning Edition: >> I heard that...Nice reporting on how Riddle had to learn to tone down while Frankie crooned, but during the intervals was allowed to bust loose. Apparently a tough time was had by all coming up with this formula.....On another note I picked up the Nelson Riddle MPS Record from the early 7T's recently....specacular now sounds and groovy easy listening abound from the Black Forest....Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:19:00 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Mmmmmm.............Kookie! / & Palm Springs Weekend In a message dated 12/20/01 7:08:21 AM, alan.miller2@ntlworld.com writes: << Have had the soundtrack for "Palm Springs Weekend" recommended, in the same vein as Sunset Strip i am told. Is this worth looking out for?? >> I like it...Troy Donahue--or is it Tab Hunter--is dreamy, and there are some groovy tunes on the OST including a fake bossa and a title track sung by Troy--or is it Tab? Jimmy Botticelli/"Live young and you'll discover such--fabulous things" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:31:00 -0500 From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle &... > >I am becoming a fan of Esquivel, do you know him? I've been listening to it > >for a yar now and I really dig it. > > Hi Peter, welcome to the list. > We're all a bit jaded at this point. > For us, Esquivel is so 1998. > That would be Alan, our list's resident Curmudgeon...you can ignore him if you like (we often do...)but he has gotten me to creep out of the woodwork and actually post about exotica again, so... and actually, Alan, Esquivel is so 1996... Esquivel was probably the artist whose music started me on the whole exotica thing - the Bar None comps "Space-Age Bachelor Pad Music" and then "Music From A Sparkling Planet" were played so much around here, I'm surprised they haven't worn out (even if they are CDs...) From there, I moved on to the RCA Space Age Pop compilations, the Ultra Lounge Leopard Skin sampler, Martin Denny, etc... and haven't looked back since. Back then, you could still pick up exotica vinyl at thrift and other stores cheaply - those were the days! This list has been unbelievably helpful in teaching me and many others everything you ever wanted to know about exotica, and then some. So welcome to the list, and ask away! cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:16:14 -0200 From: "Peter Zarustica, the King of Prussia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle...Esquivel > If you like Nelson Riddle and Esquivel, maybe I should find out more about > Kraftwerk, Klf and Orb, which you mentioned liking in your first post. Not > familiar with them. Oh Let me put this straight... My first email was headed to the 4 lists I became a member, including Orb, KLF and Kraftwerk. I think that Kraftwerk is a good musical refeerance to anyone into good music and into the story of modern music. But I wouldn't recomend KLF or Orb to this list no. Of course people can like and enjoy both styles, the music that's discussed here and Orb/KLF... I do! But it's not that common. For example people on those other lists often talk about Trance and stuff like Paul Van Dyk etc.. which I truly don't like. I tried, but I think it's to boring. Anyways, as a good friend of mine says, "musical taste is like hair, some people don't have it" :) So I respect everyone's opinion. I'm much much more into 60's funk than House Music, much more into 50's standarts/free jazz than Nu Metal... > We're all a bit jaded at this point. > For us, Esquivel is so 1998. No worries. I won't start talking about Esquivel on and on... I didn't know this list and nobody told me about it.. I found it surfin'. Anyways it's nice to know people who likes him, since I didn't know anyone else but me until now. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:24:03 -0800 From: crymad Subject: (exotica) Laurindo Almeida, A Man And A Woman Man, this record is perfection. Got it for the title track, as I can never have too many versions. But the whole thing is solid -- gentle and lovely throughout. L.A.'s guitar with strings and horns. - --crymad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 11:36:18 -0400 From: clayton black Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle...Esquivel...Kraftwerk > From: Mimi Mayer > Peter and Doug and anybody...Kraftwerk has a most beauteous Flash site at > http://www.kraftwerk.com/. Enjoy, Mimi > It is a beautiful (or beauteous) site. I've loved Kraftwerk for years. They helped me discover El Lissitsky (see the album "Man Machine"), which just reinforced my russophilia. There's a terrific live365.com station called ABSOLUT KRAFTWERK that plays nothing but Kraftwerk and all of the remixes all day long. It's not for everybody, clearly, but sometimes it's exactly what I need. This past semester I taught a course on Europe between the wars and I made sure to talk about Bauhaus and I showed Metropolis, and it doesn't take much effort to see the influence of both on Rolf and Florian. As for Riddle & Esquivel--what's not to love? In Riddle's case that's easier to answer (for me) than in Esquivel's. He still can't redeem Linda Ronstadt for me, but I've got three or four of his own albums and they're all excellent, including Pickwick's "Witchcraft." I go for long stretches now without listening to Esquivel, but "Music from a Sparkling Planet" is still as fresh to me as when I bought it (back in '96, I believe). And finding his vinyl in thrifts is still something of a holy grail (although Frank Hunter's "White Goddess" is much more so now). Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:43:42 -0500 From: azed@pathcom.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle...Esquivel At 11:16 PM 12/20/01 -0200, Peter Zarustica, the King of Prussia wrote: .>> We're all a bit jaded at this point. >> For us, Esquivel is so 1998. > >No worries. I won't start talking about Esquivel on and on... I didn't know >this list and nobody told me about it.. I found it surfin'.. Once again, we learn that sarcasm and the internet don't mix. I was kidding you King. This list is all over Esquivel. Please talk about him. We NEED you to talk about him and save us from our jadedness. And you can talk about the Orb too. We talk about the Free Design. This really isn't a list for exotica specifically. It's really a list for people who like exotica AND THEREFORE probably also like a whole bunch of other stuff that isn't Celine Dion or Garth Brooks. Sorry I gave you the wrong impression. I was just afraid that nobody would respond to your Esquivel query. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:44:16 -0500 From: azed@pathcom.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle...Esquivel At 11:16 PM 12/20/01 -0200, Peter Zarustica, the King of Prussia wrote: .>> We're all a bit jaded at this point. >> For us, Esquivel is so 1998. > >No worries. I won't start talking about Esquivel on and on... I didn't know >this list and nobody told me about it.. I found it surfin'.. Once again, we learn that sarcasm and the internet don't mix. I was kidding you King. This list is all over Esquivel. Please talk about him. We NEED you to talk about him and save us from our jadedness. And you can talk about the Orb too. We talk about the Free Design. This really isn't a list for exotica specifically. It's really a list for people who like exotica AND THEREFORE probably also like a whole bunch of other stuff that isn't Celine Dion or Garth Brooks. Sorry I gave you the wrong impression. I was just afraid that nobody would respond to your Esquivel query. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 11:41:49 -0400 From: clayton black Subject: Re: (exotica) Apache Thanks to all who responded to the "Apache" query. I have never seen a movie featuring Apache dancing, but I'll keep my eyes open now. Actually, late 19th-early 20th century Russia and Europe are my specialities, and it's nice to add some color to the picture. By the way, is the song itself that old? Do any of you 78-hounds out there have old copies of it? Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 11:49:06 -0400 From: clayton black Subject: Re: (exotica) Laurindo Almeida, A Man And A Woman > Subject: (exotica) Laurindo Almeida, A Man And A Woman > > > Man, this record is perfection. Got it for the title track, as I can > never have too many versions. But the whole thing is solid -- gentle > and lovely throughout. L.A.'s guitar with strings and horns. > > --crymad > I think that Laurindo Almeida is one of the great unsung (at least as long as I've been following it, which, in relative terms, is not so long) heroes of exotica (or easy listening, anyway). I've got a scratchy old copy of "Viva Bossa Nova!" If it were in better shape, it would be on my turntable almost every day. His version of Route 66 is my favorite (despite what I said on my last post about Nelson Riddle). Unfortunately, I rarely see his albums anywhere, and I gather from the dust sleeves that he did a lot of classical albums as well, which may have been more of the source of his popularity, I don't know. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 04:00:47 -0200 From: "Peter Zarustica, the King of Prussia" Subject: (exotica) Mutantes what about "Os Mutantes"? I have all of their records and I think their work is a masterpiece. Has it been discussed to death too? ;) Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 01:06:06 -0500 From: azed@pathcom.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Laurindo Almeida, A Man And A Woman At 11:49 AM 12/22/01 -0400, clayton black wrote: >I think that Laurindo Almeida is one of the great unsung (at least as long >as I've been following it, which, in relative terms, is not so long) heroes >of exotica (or easy listening, anyway). I've got a scratchy old copy of >"Viva Bossa Nova!" If it were in better shape, it would be on my turntable >almost every day. His version of Route 66 is my favorite (despite what I >said on my last post about Nelson Riddle). I know that record and I agree it's great. And there are a couple of other ones in that "series". Something like Viva Bossa Nova AGAIN! There's two or three of them at least with the same sound. A sound which includes a very groovy organ player. But I don't think those are "typical" Laurindo records. If they were, I think he would be a lot less UNsung. Not that he's all that obscure. But he made a lot of records and very few of them were as groovy as the one you're talking about. Not that groovy is the be-all and end-all. "A Man and a Woman" is a nice record but it's not groovy like "Viva Bossa Nova". And I must say I have heard a few of his records that were kind of boring. If not boring, then a little too quiet and subtle. He has this unique style of playing but I find it a bit limited and sometimes it can be a bit repetitive. No matter what the song is or what the arrangement, here comes Laurindo with that little flamenco-sounding thing he does. So yeah he had some great records but I don't think I could just say "If you see his name, buy it!" And by the way, my copies of those Viva records were a little beat up too. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 00:43:51 -0800 From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) Laurindo Almeida, A Man And A Woman azed@pathcom.com wrote: > But he made a lot of records and very few of them were as groovy as the one > you're talking about [Viva Bossa Nova!]. > Not that groovy is the be-all and end-all. > "A Man and a Woman" is a nice record but it's not groovy like "Viva Bossa > Nova". Groovy gets to be a bit tiresome after a while, though. And it also is vulnerable to kitchy-ness. That quality is my biggest complaint with a lot of the music in the Ultra Lounge series. Un-ironic listening is what I strive for. - --crymad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 01:24:18 -0800 (PST) From: Hep Cat Subject: (exotica) Tiki Directory I'd like to gather a group of web-savvy tikiphiles together to collaborate on a usesful, searchable, up to date tiki directory. The events, the people, the places, the cocktail recipes... Here's the idea in a nutshell: if you need to find a band for your party, if you need to find a party to go to, if you want to find a tiki artisan, want to know what's going on in the tiki subculture, tiki.info will be the place to go. People who want to help out so far include nels dahlquist of tikizone.com, tiki kiliki of tiki central :-) and otto von stroheim of tiki news. Anyway, i'm sure there are a lot more talented web designers and programmers on this list than I, and beyond that it's going to take a little time from a lotta people to put together a real "tiki portal." So, if you've got any ideas, advice, skills, or enthusiam you'd like to share please email ford@magicmartini.com. http://www.tiki.info - -Ford _____________________________________________________________ Enjoy the hip cats and magical martinis at the world's most famous martini bar, Chatini! http://www.chatini.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:41:49 -0000 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Laurindo Almeida, A Man And A Woman Now if you're talking Route 66, I played a Perry Como version of it (from Perry Como swings(?) on living stereo, nice picture of the man golfing on the cover) and it truly swings. Bongo's, strings, Bluesy bass. Unexpectedly fantastic. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > I think that Laurindo Almeida is one of the great unsung (at least as long > as I've been following it, which, in relative terms, is not so long) > heroes > of exotica (or easy listening, anyway). I've got a scratchy old copy of > "Viva Bossa Nova!" If it were in better shape, it would be on my turntable > almost every day. His version of Route 66 is my favorite (despite what I > said on my last post about Nelson Riddle). Unfortunately, I rarely see > his > albums anywhere, and I gather from the dust sleeves that he did a lot of > classical albums as well, which may have been more of the source of his > popularity, I don't know. > Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:02:59 -0500 From: David KoJen Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle &... on 12/20/01 5:31 PM, cheryl at cheryls@primus.ca wrote: > >>> I am becoming a fan of Esquivel, do you know him? I've been listening to > it >>> for a yar now and I really dig it. >> > haven't worn out (even if they are CDs...) From there, I moved on to the > RCA Space Age Pop compilations, the Ultra Lounge Leopard Skin sampler, > Martin Denny, etc... and haven't looked back since. Back then, you could > still pick up exotica vinyl at thrift and other stores cheaply - those were > the days! This list has been unbelievably helpful in teaching me and many > others everything you ever wanted to know about exotica, and then some. > Yes it seems that the name "Esquivel" commands top dollar. I've been looking on ebay for Esquivel CDs (not vintage collectors-item vinyl, but contemporary CD rereleases, in print) and the prices are ridiculous. I pointed out to one seller that his *opening* price for his used Esquivel CD was within 2 dollars of the new-CD price at CDNOW.com. I don't know how much is sold for but for me, I would'nt pay much more than 1/2 price for a used CD that is still in print. - -- David KoJen http://www.bicnet.net/~scarabe/solisMaris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 06:45:50 -0800 From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle &... > Yes it seems that the name "Esquivel" commands top dollar. I've been looking > on ebay for Esquivel CDs (not vintage collectors-item vinyl, but > contemporary CD rereleases, in print) and the prices are ridiculous. Just in case nobody noticed, the vinyl is coming down - way down. A VG+ copy of one of Esquivel's first Mexican recordings, "To Love Again" continues to sit at Dusty Groove for 8.99. They keep dropping the price and even I, who always opts for analog originals over digital copies if given the choice, (time for this debate again?) has not bothered to hit the "add to your cart" button. That being said, I'm gonna get it right now ;) And this is not just an overlooked exception, it's getting to be quite common - you should be able to pick up the vinyl for no more that the price of a new CD in many cases, often for the price of a used CD. Happy Holidays! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:00:19 -0500 From: Jerry Nutter Subject: (exotica) Philips CDR-775 CD burner Wonder if anyone has any experience with the Philips CDR-775 CD burner? Or any other Philips model? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:21:37 -0600 From: Mimi Mayer Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle &... Basic Hip advised >Just in case nobody noticed, the vinyl is coming down - way down. .... >And this is not just an overlooked exception, it's getting to be quite >common - you should be able to pick up the vinyl for no more that the price >of a new CD in many cases, often for the price of a used CD. Basic Hip, our man in the vinyl markets. Thanks for the tipoff, buddy. And a cool Yule to you and yours, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:16:47 -0000 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) JD and the Evils Dynamite band I was given an LP 'Across the Nation' by JD and the Evils dynamite band a couple of days ago as a birthday present. "I bought it as it was the most obscure thing in the shop, and I was pretty sure you wouldn't have it." Its a modern, easy funk sort of thing. I'm not really sure what to make of it. There are a couple of tracks that are squarely a cross between Denny and 70's instrumental funk. Slow with lots of bird calls, and what sounds like a kettle drum or floor tom being hit by a beater. One of the tracks reminds of 'Mr Teacher'(?) off the 'Mr Mopiji' fake Soundtrack from a couple of years back. I can't find it to make the comparison, but generally this is a much better LP, even if it does get bogged down into fairly pointless grooves occasionally. Some nice organ grooves, and all round its a fairly mellow affair. It fitted quite nicely into a lounge night I've started at a local pub. Its on Soulfire records, whats their other stuff like that, any of our resident funksters know? Happy Christmas.(Where appropriate). I'm off until the new year.... El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:31:52 -0500 From: "Carl Howard" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle & edible horse underwear OOPS! Have you tried Half.com? It may be part of the evil eBay empire, but sometimes some real values will turn up. I completely agree with you as regards the prices of used CDs which are still in print. I have all the Esquivel CDs I can have, considering that Bar None never released the projected Genius/1968 double, and considering that his LP backing the Ames Brothers is not on reissue. Oh, and ditto the one sometimes called "Mexican Songs." Carl Howard Ohio Regional WUV Supervisor Alien Abduction Coordinator Communist Dupe Extraordinaire - ----- Original Message ----- > I've been looking > on ebay for Esquivel CDs (not vintage collectors-item vinyl, but > contemporary CD rereleases, in print) and the prices are ridiculous. I > pointed out to one seller that his *opening* price for his used Esquivel CD > was within 2 dollars of the new-CD price at CDNOW.com. I don't know how much > is sold for but for me, I would'nt pay much more than 1/2 price for a used > CD that is still in print. > -- > David KoJen > http://www.bicnet.net/~scarabe/solisMaris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:34:55 -0500 From: "Carl Howard" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle & Grooves o' Dust DustyGroove is the only site I know of where, if you plug in "RCA Spain" as a search, delivers approximately 35 juicy returns. They're still my favorite active label. Carl Howard Ohio Regional WUV Supervisor Alien Abduction Coordinator Communist Dupe Extraordinaire - ----- Original Message ----- > Just in case nobody noticed, the vinyl is coming down - way down. A VG+ > copy of one of Esquivel's first Mexican recordings, "To Love Again" > continues to sit at Dusty Groove for 8.99. They keep dropping the price and > even I, who always opts for analog originals over digital copies if given > the choice, (time for this debate again?) has not bothered to hit the "add > to your cart" button. > > That being said, I'm gonna get it right now ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:36:20 -0500 From: "Carl Howard" Subject: Re: (exotica) Philips CDR-775 CD burner I have a single-drive Philips burner, don't remember the model number though. What's the question? Carl Howard Ohio Regional WUV Supervisor Alien Abduction Coordinator Communist Dupe Extraordinaire - ----- Original Message ----- > > Wonder if anyone has any experience with the Philips CDR-775 CD burner? Or > any other Philips model? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:37:44 -0800 From: "Doug Dale" Subject: (exotica) Public Libraries I found a public library in Morris County, New Jersey that has vinyl! I remember the old days when they all had it. I'm gonna make me CD's of: *Original Music from the TV Series "Hennesey" with Jackie Cooper & his Orchestra. I think they called it Jackie Cooper's Orchestra just for sales purposes. All songs are composed by Sonny Burke. Great TV Jazz album. Love it! *TV Thriller Themes by Johnny Gregory. Yeah, there are songs I have a million times over like Route 66 and M Squad, but there are new tunes I haven't heard. George Duning's Tightrope, Laurie Johnson's Echo Four-Two and 2 shows from England; Ghost Squad & Sucu-Sucu (Top Secret series). *Jackie Gleason's soundtrack to Gigot. He worked on this with Sammy Cahn. Found out about this from Cool & Strange's current issue. Thank you Dana! *Les Baxter's Brazil Now: Heard about it. Have the vinyl now. Well not really have, borrowed. Wheeeeee! *Lalo Schifrin's Bullit: Don't have to send away for the CD. Makin' one. *Elmer Bernstein's Movie & TV Themes: All time favorite, only had it in mono. STEREO COPY! Yee Ha! Anyone else have luck with libraries? Any in New York City I should know about? Your old pal, Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:41:55 -0500 From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nelson Riddle &... Indeed, Esquivel, Baxter and Denny are maybe the main cornerstone artists of this list (though not exclusively). We don't have a lot to say about them lately, true, but I don't think it's so much that we're jaded, as that we just sort of ran out of interesting things to say about them. Anyway, more usefully, here's a valuable link for newbies (and not-so-newbies): http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/exotica/archive/ The list archives, all the way back to 1994 (plus a couple of stray posts from the years 0 and 1972, a little quirk of datestamps there, methinks). Always entertaining, and sometimes embarrassing. M.Ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:17:34 -0800 From: Rob Crowther Subject: RE: (exotica) Public Libraries Doug, libraries have been big scores for me for a while. The vinyl is usually in pretty good shape and they have the oddest things when you consider it's a public library that caters to the lowest common denominator. If you keep your eyes open every year or two county and city library systems usually have sales to unload old books -- and old records. And, anytime you find something by Laurie Johnson you're having a damn fine day as far as I'm concerned. Rob ************************************************************************** " Authenticity. If you can fake that, the rest will take care of itself. " - -- www.mistersuave.com -- - -- rob@mistersuave.com -- Listen to Mr. Suave's Bim Bam Cocktail Show Listen to Mr. Suave's Mod Mod Radio Program - -----Original Message----- From: Doug Dale [mailto:d-a.dale@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:38 PM To: Exotica Mailing List Subject: (exotica) Public Libraries I found a public library in Morris County, New Jersey that has vinyl! I remember the old days when they all had it. I'm gonna make me CD's of: *Original Music from the TV Series "Hennesey" with Jackie Cooper & his Orchestra. I think they called it Jackie Cooper's Orchestra just for sales purposes. All songs are composed by Sonny Burke. Great TV Jazz album. Love it! *TV Thriller Themes by Johnny Gregory. Yeah, there are songs I have a million times over like Route 66 and M Squad, but there are new tunes I haven't heard. George Duning's Tightrope, Laurie Johnson's Echo Four-Two and 2 shows from England; Ghost Squad & Sucu-Sucu (Top Secret series). *Jackie Gleason's soundtrack to Gigot. He worked on this with Sammy Cahn. Found out about this from Cool & Strange's current issue. Thank you Dana! *Les Baxter's Brazil Now: Heard about it. Have the vinyl now. Well not really have, borrowed. Wheeeeee! *Lalo Schifrin's Bullit: Don't have to send away for the CD. Makin' one. *Elmer Bernstein's Movie & TV Themes: All time favorite, only had it in mono. STEREO COPY! Yee Ha! Anyone else have luck with libraries? Any in New York City I should know about? Your old pal, Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:16:23 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) JD and the Evils Dynamite band In a message dated 12/21/01 11:17:41 AM, G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk writes: << Its on Soulfire records, whats their other stuff like that, any of our resident funksters know? >> You have stumbled upon a pretty reliable label in the Desco style, often in the same mode as Groove Merchant or Late 6T's Blue Note/Prestige organ groove. With two exceptions. One being the inability of modern record companies, no matter how pure of intention, to duplicate that analologue magic as mentioned by Basic Hip. But they come darn close. And two is the sensibility of today's guitarists. Many just play too "heavy" They can't seem to stay light like Benson, Pass et al. Poisoned by Power-Chords, these modern day purists are brainwashed from their years of frontal assault from the Guns & Roses/metal years. Hence the occasional bad stray into "rock" playing. But overall their aim is true and the funky 45's as Dustygroove calls 'em on Soul Fire are good and fonkay....Another reliable label for funky 45's is Jazzman...More Exotica-Latinova influences pop up on them...Hope that helps...Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:19:03 -0500 From: bump@defectiverecords.com (buMp) Subject: Re: (exotica) Mutantes not too much. i agree. still my favorite band since first hearing them 2 years ago. even the later 70's stuff (Sergio Dias) i dig since i like the prog scene a bit too. they are over the top. they led me to Gilberto Gil + Gal Costa, of which their 1969 lp's are incredible. (if you like psychedelic music) and of course the Rita Lee solo records. really don't know what to say about them. for me its is just music at its best. >what about "Os Mutantes"? I have all of their records and I think their work >is a masterpiece. Has it been discussed to death too? ;) > >Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #1088 ******************************