From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #159 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Tuesday, July 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 159 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (Badalamenti) (exotica) Twin Peaks soundtrack (exotica) yucky thrifts Re: (exotica) Lurkers (exotica) Las Vegas Grind Re: (exotica) yucky thrifts Re: (exotica) Lurkers (exotica) Las Vegas Grind -Reply Re: (exotica) scores posting/playlists (exotica) The Bad Angel (exotica) Affair to remember/Gypsies Re: (exotica) The Bad Angel Re: (exotica) cheap records part two (exotica) Affair to remember/Gypsies Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo) Re: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges (exotica) Bombay the Hard Way Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks soundtrack Re: (exotica) Patience and Prudence Pictures Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo) Re: (exotica) "Dirty" Thrift Shops (exotica) Rollcall (exotica) One small step for man . . . (exotica) One giant cheese ball Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . . Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . . Re: [Charles Moseley: Re: (exotica) Indian pop] Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (Badalamenti) Re: (exotica) James Flora obit Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . . Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Re: (exotica) Rollcall Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop RE: (exotica) Rollcall ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:57:48 PDT From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (Badalamenti) I have a copy and would be willing to trade if anyone is interested. My VCR is play only, alas. Ben >This show was available on video at one time - perhaps it's still available >with a bit of hunting. Here's the info: >Artist:=A0David Lynch >Title: =A0Industrial Symphony #1 >Date of Release:=A01990 (release) >Warner Reprise Video: 38179=A0=A0Warner Reprise Video: 003817900805 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:22:36 -0400 From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) Twin Peaks soundtrack I think the Twin Peaks stuff does fall on the periphery of exotica. I love both the Twin Peaks soundtrack and especially the Firewalk with Me soundtracks. Both are amazing. They are dark and exotic with lots of twangy guitars, vibes and jazzy drumming. Check out: "The Pink Room" off of Firewalk with Me...Incredible. And some of the twangy guitar playing on these records was done by Vincent Bell, a studio musician from way back who also invented the Coral Electric Sitar!! Which was featured on probably many a late 60's exotica track...the most prominent example of the Coral Electric Sitar was probably BJ Thomas' version of "Hooked on a Feeling"... Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 20:16:59 -0400 From: Jordana Robinson Subject: (exotica) yucky thrifts Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > is it just me but does anyone else get bugged that some of the thrifts are so > dirty???? sometimes i come home and feel like i need to take a bath because i > got so many other peoples "stuff" on me? My skin is really sensitive, so if I'm around old records (or books) I get bright red splotches on my face and arms. It used to only happen after rummaging through musty stuff for hours at a time, but in the last year or so I can get it just from a couple minutes of exposure. Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:33:27 -0700 From: "super k. riot" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers well, i;ve been lurking for a while and havent posted anything. and for this i;m sorry. i promise to post more often. but it;s hard sometimes when your time is limited. so anyways i'd like to say hi. and to michelle i'd like to say hi and thank you very, very much for inviting me to the dinner/meet-up at encounters a few months back.my friend s and i had lots of fun and we really enjoyed it. it was especially cool meeting you. i;m sorry i haven;t mailed lately. also another question for michelle, have you been to bollucks yet? tht's the new punk club that is taking over from where jabberjaw left off only without the emo thing. thanks and cyal8r ken - -- life is wonderful, but driving sucks raves, tagging, poetry, breakdancing http://home.pacbell.net/kriot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:54:34 -1000 From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind Okay, what's the deal with the "Las Vegas Grind" CDs? Saw these for the first time at the local record shoppe in the "Lounge" section. Thought I remembered some discussion about them on this list, but couldn't remember the gist of it. Very provocative covers, German Imports, I think there were 3 volumes. Is this "new" lounge, or 50s-60s vintage? Rock-ish? Jazz-ish? or neither-ish? The general concept leads you to believe this is "stripping music", which as far as I'm concerned is not that interesting without the visual element. Perhaps these discs would prove me wrong?? *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:51:07 PDT From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) yucky thrifts Blotches? You should see my cankers. I have to wear a rubber body suit into those joints. And a jaunty mauve cumberbund. >My skin is really sensitive, so if I'm around old records (or books) I >get bright red splotches on my face and arms. It used to only happen >after rummaging through musty stuff for hours at a time, but in the >last year or so I can get it just from a couple minutes of exposure. > >Jordana >eero67@geocities.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:06:54 +0000 From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > > Can you imagine what you email load would be like if all 329 people were > posting on a regular basis? Pretty insane! With the few active posters we > have, I have way more than enough email to read every night! > Maybe I'll lay off for a while. This would allow many people to post without changing the nightly email load. It would probably save many people the effort of having to skip and delete all my useless verbiage! Perhaps a roll-call of sorts would be in order... There may be a lot of inactive email addresses on the list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:33:07 -0400 From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind -Reply These are RAW BABE - RAW, rock 'n roll-a - way-out boom-boom-ba-doom = drunken recording sessions......fun primitive stuff - forget David Rose's = hit - this is sometin' ELSE!........... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:18:48 +0000 From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) scores posting/playlists Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > As one of the more vocal "thrift scores" critics, the answer is yes! We > greenhorns would get alot out of a brief descrip or just a thumbs up or > down... I often will save to a records search file all you posters > recommendations that I use on my own searches as record swapmeets... those > types of posts are most useful. I realize that the ability to post such a > list also depends on one's time availability, but the answer to your question > is yes! It does take time, but I REALLY appreciate those who do it. If I can't take time to post annotations, I don't post a list. (notice any lists from me lately?) Maybe I should be easier on myself and take Michelle's suggestion of a simple yay/nay and add comments where they are warranted and not try to write about EVERY entry. I suppose the same can be said for playlists - Annotations make them MUCH more useful. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:02:51 +0000 From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) The Bad Angel Angelo Badalamenti = Andy Badale?!? Slaps forehead...! I always wondered who Andy Badale was - he's credited with co-writing 5 songs on Perrey's "Moog Indigo" (Soul City, EVA(!), Cat in the Night, Moog Indigo and Passport to the Future). As Harry Hill might say, "respect due"! Oh, one name missing from the Twin Peaks raving - Vinnie Bell on guitar. Where would the music be without THAT guitar! Robbie - ---------------------------------------------------------- ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** - ---------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:14:31 +0000 From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) Affair to remember/Gypsies I have been looking for info online, but so far NOTHING... Anybody know anything about "The Gypsies" featured in the movie "Love in the Afternoon?" They were the band that would follow and Serenade Gary Cooper and Audrey Hepburn in one of the funniest running gags on film. If there is any vinyl of these guys, I'd love to get it. By the way... great flick. Gary Cooper is pretty wooden, but he plays a passable asshole rich guy/playboy/womanizer. Audrey is Audrey (siiiiiiigh!) and Maurice Chevalier is ALWAYS a treat. The music is terrific, and theh "gypsies" whoever they are, are deft musicians, AND great physical comeidians who never utter a word, but convey great personality. The ending, which is supposed to be a romantic triumph, is the big disappointment. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:45:35 -0700 From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) The Bad Angel At 10:02 PM 7/20/98 +0000, Robbie Baldock wrote: >I always wondered who Andy Badale was - he's credited with co-writing >5 songs on Perrey's "Moog Indigo" (Soul City, EVA(!), Cat in the >Night, Moog Indigo and Passport to the Future). He also co-wrote four songs on Perrey's "The Amazing New Elecronic Pop Sound of Jean Jacques Perrey" (Mary France, Island in Space, Mister James Bond, and In the Heart of a Rose). Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:39:16 +0000 From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) cheap records part two > > Klaus Wunderlich HAMMOND SENSATIONS (on Hi Fi Telefunken) > I avoid Klaus's records usually but this one looked so different, sort of > like a George Wright records. I don't know if I'm going to start buying > the other ones now but this is a pretty good organ record with a few > exotica classics. Klaus ROCKS! I discovered him in a thrift-store on a record called "Wersi-time Volume II" It's a demo of the German-Made Wersi,a heavily electronic organ. I love organ records, and I have found that organ demo records are the most F*@$!ED UP, WACKY-ASSED, brilliant stuff on vinyl because the try to wring every drop of sound out of the special features of the instrument the record is trying to sell. Klause really pulls out all the stops (sorry, I HAD to say that) on this one. His goofy mugging on the cover is an added bonus. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:40:28 -0500 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Affair to remember/Gypsies At 02:14 PM 7/20/98 +0000, Ron Grandia wrote: >Anybody know anything about "The Gypsies" featured in=20 >the movie "Love in the Afternoon?" They were the band >that would follow and Serenade Gary Cooper and Audrey >Hepburn in one of the funniest running gags on film. I don't know any more about the "Four Gypsies" than their names:=20 George Cocos.... One of Four Gypsies Victor Gazzoli.... One of Four Gypsies Gyula Kokas.... One of Four Gypsies Michel Kokas.... One of Four Gypsies Only one of the four (Gyula Kokas) has another film credit: Papucsh=F6s, A (1938) Hungary 1938 Black and White=20 Language: Hungarian Runtime:76=20 Directed by Johann von V=E1s=E1ry=A0 Cast Gyula Kokas - -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:32:50 -0400 From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo) >>My question: Does anybody know more about Angelo Badalamenti > I think he maybe worked with Jean-Jacques Perrey or something. HELP... Yes.......he's listed as Perrey's co-writer on 6 tracks of "Moog Indigo", and 4 tracks on "The Amazing New Electronic Pop Sound". br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:56:15 EDT From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges >>>Looks like Ultra Lounge has thrown in the towel on Lounge and is going for the much larger (ie $$$) audience of Swing!?!<<< Actually, maybe we're reading too much into it. The two already-released "Wild, Cool & Swingin'" discs are Vegas-focused. Of course, that doesn't mean the five new ones won't take a different course for that title. >>>Afterall, their side project for new acts released the new Big Bad Voodoo Daddys CD while they sit on a compilation full of excellent progressive music by new Lounge acts (Brother Cleve, Blue Hawaiians, Four Piece Suit, etc.)<<< What's this? Sounds very interesting. Do you have any more information about this disc and why it's not being released? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:02:01 -0500 From: "Bryan J. Cuevas" Subject: (exotica) Bombay the Hard Way Hey folks - I just uncovered the Grand Royal issue (#6, p. 48) that advertises the Indian film collection on Motel Records. The title: "Bombay the Hard Way: Guns, Cars & Sitars (get down with the sound of the brown)"... Looked it up on the web....nothing. What's the deal with Motel Records anyway? I thought the Vampyros thing a few years back was gonna be the start of something solid from these guys. What gives? Anyone in NYC care to fill us in.... Bryan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bryan J. Cuevas Department of Religious Studies University of Virginia =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:12:29 EDT From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks soundtrack << .the most prominent example of the Coral Electric Sitar was probably BJ Thomas' version of "Hooked on a Feeling"... >> i wonder...did the Box Tops use one on their 1968 hit "Cry Like A Baby"? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:15:38 EDT From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Patience and Prudence Pictures A few weeks back someone posted a MP# from a single to the MP3 50's newsgroup. The song was called "We Can't Sing R & B" and it makes me want more more more of these two. JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:27:45 EDT From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo) In a message dated 98-07-20 09:41:16 EDT, charlieman writes: << I can't help but feel that I missed something very important when I misses these episodes. I know the women were gorgeous, but what else is up with this show? >> god, i don't know where to start. too complicated to explain. check out a web site for more info: http://movie.reel.com/Content/moviepage.asp?MMID=6993 http://www.mikedunn.com/lynch/tp.html http://www.mikedunn.com/lynch/ http://www.sci.fi/~mike/tp/tplodge.html one of the above sites has the entire series on video tape for about 75 bucks. robert (never drink a cup of coffee that has been anywhere near a fish) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:29:01 EDT From: Subject: Re: (exotica) "Dirty" Thrift Shops In a message dated 98-07-20 10:21:42 EDT, you write: << Simple solution. NEVER leave on a thrifting trip without a few "Handi- Wipes" in your pocket. I can't STAND having all of that grime on me hands either......... >> a man after my own (fastidiously clean) heart. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:47:18 EDT From: Subject: (exotica) Rollcall In a message dated 98-07-20 16:08:18 EDT, Ron Grandia wrote: << Perhaps a roll-call of sorts would be in order... There may be a lot of inactive email addresses on the list. >> OK, sounds a little hokey but we could give it a try. Any suggestions for a format?? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:55:50 EDT From: Subject: (exotica) One small step for man . . . Not really music related but I thought this was interesting. What songs were you "grooving" to that summer???? Robert This is "Giant Leap" Day! With "...one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind," astronaut, Neil Armstrong, pilot of the lunar spacecraft, the "Eagle", made the first footsteps on the surface of the moon at 10:56 p.m. EDT on this day in 1969. Which foot did Armstrong use to step on the grainy, grayish, lunar soil? His left. So incredible were the TV images of Armstrong and later, Buzz Aldrin, exploring the lunar surface, people around the world stopped and collectively held their breath. The words "Houston, Tranquillity Base here. The Eagle has landed..." gave instant impact to the drama of watching human beings reach something so far away so successfully. And all were able to breathe once again. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:18:57 EDT From: Subject: (exotica) One giant cheese ball And . . . on this day in history: 1801 - A 1,235 pound cheese ball was pressed at the farm of Elisha Brown, Jr. on this day. The huge ball of cheese was later loaded on a horse-driven wagon and presented to President Thomas Jefferson at the White House. Mr. Jefferson was heard to say, "That's one small bite for man, one giant cheese for mankind." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:40:01 +0000 From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . . At 09:55 PM 7/20/98 EDT, rcbrooks wrote: >Not really music related but I thought this was interesting. What songs were >you "grooving" to that summer? >>With "...one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind," astronaut, >>Neil Armstrong made the first footsteps on the Moon at 10:56 p.m. EDT on this >>day in 1969. Actually, this is quite relevant for me and this list because of my answer. The only music I remember well as a 10-year-old was one that was playing a lot on the radio...and Red Skelton featured on his TV show with none other than a lunar astronaut bopping to the tune. I am, of course, referring to Ma-Nah Ma-Nah from the soundtrack of Swedish Heaven or Hell (apologies if I got any part of that wrong. the exact title of the movie and the spelling of the song title are suspect). My friends were all into The Beatles and The Yellow Submarine. Go figure! Oh, I was also partial to "I Wanna Be Like You" (featuring Phil Harris and Louis Prima) from "The Jungle Book" which I had seen in the theatres sometime around then. And who are John, Paul, Ringo and George again? Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:44:55 EDT From: Subject: Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . . << >Not really music related but I thought this was interesting. What songs were >you "grooving" to that summer? >> According to Billboard, Zager and Evans' IN THE YEAR 2525 was number one at the time and in that position for 6 weeks. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:27:44 -0700 From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: [Charles Moseley: Re: (exotica) Indian pop] At 06:53 PM 7/17/98 +0100, Peter wrote: >>Ravi Shankar albums are always worth picking up, I think. A cool one >>is "Transformation Macabre", the soundtrack to a British artfilm >>("Viola"), with short pieces such as "Madness" and "Death"; much more >>eerie and aggressive sitar/tabla playing than I've heard >>elsewhere. Again, not really pop, but fascinating. >I just saw this out on CD. I will look for it again tomorrow, and post the information on label and catalog#.... Ravi Shankar - Transmigration Macabre (CD) C-Five Records - Cat# C5CD 596 Made in the EC It was $14.95 here, so it's not priced like an import sometimes can be. The label's catalog can be obtained through a PO Box in England. The original sound recording was from 1973 on Spark Records. On the back, it says "from the film 'Viola', produced by R. Davis". Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:25:27 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (Badalamenti) Thanks for the info, Lou! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:25:13 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) James Flora obit Lou Smith wrote: > *James Flora > NORWALK, Conn. (AP) -- James Flora, a noted children's author and one of > the first artists to design and illustrate record album covers, died July 9. > He was 84. http://www.inhi-fi.com/flora I discovered him only 3 days ago after someone had posted this homepage adress. I think he was great and once more a great artist wasn't recognized by the "official" art-scene, just because his work was devoted to another genre of the arts, in this case music. Same happened to the geniuses who worked in the field of film or even advertising. Today "the jazz" in Flora's work is what we appreciate and many of the artist of the same time who hang in museums look dry compared to his like. His work was "Pop" even before there was pop and I believe that in the end pop is always of greater value, more durable, because it was made to be understood by "everybody", whereas much of the concept-art of the past is hard to understand today. And if you take a closer look at where the celebrated "avantgardists" of the art world got their ideas from, you'll often enough find, that they stole it from some popular culture. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:30:27 +0100 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop >I know this isn't a sitar thread but I heard this Dave Pike cut on this >compilation and it had electric sitar on it and it was just killer. Anyone >know if there's a whole record like that somewhere? I'm pretty sure you are talking about the track "Indian Vibes" which is also rereleased by MATHAR (Paul Weller, actually!!!). As far as I know, this is the cut. I never hear about a Dave Pike LP,but always hear about this track.... Jill "Mingo-go" No Jill, Its Mathar by Dave Pike. Indian Vibes is a sample-based ripoff (I think by the Chemical Brothers) Mathar is from one of Dave's German LPs which feature a mixture of jazz. Nothing special, and not much sitar, but Mathar is an absolute classic. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:35:03 -0600 From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop At 11:30 21/07/98 +0100, you wrote: > > >>I know this isn't a sitar thread but I heard this Dave Pike cut on this >>compilation and it had electric sitar on it and it was just killer. >Anyone >>know if there's a whole record like that somewhere? > >I'm pretty sure you are talking about the track "Indian Vibes" which is >also >rereleased by MATHAR (Paul Weller, actually!!!). As far as I know, this is >the cut. I never hear about a Dave Pike LP,but always hear about this >track.... > >Jill "Mingo-go" > >No Jill, Its Mathar by Dave Pike. >Indian Vibes is a sample-based ripoff (I think by the Chemical Brothers) > >Mathar is from one of Dave's German LPs which feature a mixture of jazz. >Nothing special, and not much sitar, but Mathar is an absolute classic. OK, I stand corrected on the "Indian Vibes" being by Mathar and Dave Pike's track being called "Mathar", but the Mathar group-titled track is not by the Chemical Brothers. It really is by Paul Weller and his band. I've got this on good authority because there was discussion on this track some time ago on the list. It has been re-released 2 or 3 times (including recently) with remixes from Brendon Lynch and Richard Fearless, but it really was released on a bootleg as "Indian Vibes" by Mathar,then on vinyl by...a Paul Weller related project. Go figure... Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:03:31 +0100 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop NO NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993 bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the Dust/Chemical Brothers. Paul would not be interested in nicking pieces of other records in the same way. Now maybe Brendan Lynch has been involved in the remixing department (as he has been with many things) and maybe you're getting confused with other Brendan Lynch/Paul Weller/sitar tracks. But Mathar, Indian Vibes is by the brothers grimm and not the pop maestro himself. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:34:31 EDT From: Subject: Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . . In a message dated 98-07-20 22:46:57 EDT, you write: << Not really music related but I thought this was interesting. What songs were >you "grooving" to that summer? >> According to Billboard, Zager and Evans' IN THE YEAR 2525 was number one at the time and in that position for 6 weeks. >> sorta appropo for the event of the day, huh? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:04:22 -0600 From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop At 12:03 21/07/98 +0100, you wrote: > >NO NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a >huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a >favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993 >bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the >Dust/Chemical Brothers. Paul would not be interested in nicking pieces of >other records in the same way. Now maybe Brendan Lynch has been involved in >the remixing department (as he has been with many things) and maybe you're >getting confused with other Brendan Lynch/Paul Weller/sitar tracks. But >Mathar, Indian Vibes is by the brothers grimm and not the pop maestro >himself. I have just left a message for my friend who has supplied me with the Weller info. As soon as he gets back to me, I will tell you how Weller was involved. But I am fairly certain this is NOT a Chemical Brothers track, and that in fact, Weller or his band or something very much has something to do with it. As soon as the source gets back to me, I'll tell you the scoop. Not that anyone is that interested... And as far as Lynch being "maybe" involved in the remixing department, there is a commercially available track with his remixes on VC Recordings. Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:58:34 -0600 From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop At 12:03 21/07/98 +0100, you wrote: > >NO NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a >huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a >favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993 >bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the >Dust/Chemical Brothers. Well, it really was Weller. I still haven't had my "source" get back to me, but I did a websearch, and found that Weller indeed did it. Check www.jazzworld.com/wwwboard/messages/1493.html. I also found the track listed on a sales as Weller "having helped in the release of a version in 1992". Still haven't heard any of these sources mentioning the Chemical Brothers... As for Weller not being interested in old jazz and hip hop, what was The Style Council if not a jazz/rare groove/funk band? What were the Jam if not Mod/Hammond Jazz/Beat/R&B? What is Paul Weller now? Minstral folk in the style of Nick Drake, Roy Harper not to mention the influence of artists such as Dr. John ("Walk on Guilded Splinters" cover) which is far from being "pure pop". Upon initially hearing "Indian Vibes" - the bootleg, I, too, was shocked to find out it was Weller. Jill and DJ Hush Puppy (knowledgeable references above) PS: In the sleeve notes of the Dave Pike LP that "Mathar" was on, barks Hush Puppy, it says that Mathar was the title of the village where Ravi Shankar studied sitar for 12 years and that the word is a combo of "mother" and "sitar". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:36:11 -0400 From: Jordana Robinson Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop > >NO NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a > >huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a > >favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993 > >bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the > >Dust/Chemical Brothers. It _is_ Weller - and it's not a sample - Paul Weller actually plays electric sitar, acoustic and electric guitar on the track. The bootleg you have may in fact be remixes. I have my copy, which is the original single on Virgin UK, and not a bootleg, sitting here in my lap. It's orange with little silhouettes of firebreathing figures. Tracks: Mathar Indian Timebomb Breaks (remix by X-Press 2) Mathar Dawson's Dub Hands On (remix by X-Press 2) Mathar Radio Mix Mathar Discovery of India Mix Mathar Ballistics in Traffic Mix (remix by the Ballistic Brothers) Mathar Lynch Mob Beats [possibly the hip-hop style you're referring to] Musicians: Paul Weller (electric sitar, acoustic and electric guitar) Gerard Farrell (sitar) Marco Nelson (bass) Crispin Taylor (drums and percussions) It has more recently been released again, as a single, possibly with different remixes, and I think that may have the Dave Pike version on it as well. This record is a recurring topic on this list, usually it's my fault because I really love this record and I wish there was more of it. Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:52:10 +0000 From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > OK, sounds a little hokey but we could give it a try. Any suggestions for a > format?? > Hmmm.. Perhaps everybody should post a message saying, "Present!" Like rollcall in Gym class. No? What might work is to have all active participants send an email to an address OFF the list. A hotmail or yahoo! account can be set up in minutes. This would keep the actual list from getting cluttered. Hey, and just to make it interesting, anybody want to get in on a pool to predict the actual number of participants on the list? $5 (US) to play. Closest guess without going over wins the kitty. Any tie will be split. Anyone? Anyone? It might be worthwhile to have a brief re-introduction period as well. New listers do not have the benefit of being introduced to the older ones, so while we are at it, this might be a good time to get re-acquainted. However this is done, I would imagine we will need to make sure that the folks reading the digest have ample time to respond. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:02:28 -0400 From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop At 1:36 PM -0400 7/21/98, Jordana Robinson wrote: >Mathar Indian Timebomb Breaks (remix by X-Press 2) etc >It has more recently been released again, as a single, possibly with >different remixes, and I think that may have the Dave Pike version on >it as well. I have the 12" credited to Dave Pike, with a 1969 copyright credited to Polygram (and licensed through their cool imprint, Motor). It is on the British label Outcaste, and has 2 remixes by Badmarsh & Shiri, and a speed garage remix by Badmarsh that is pretty groovy. So did Weller re-cut the original Pike piece? br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:01:20 -0400 From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Rollcall > It might be worthwhile to have a brief re-introduction period as well. > Yes, yes good idea. For me, having been here around only 8 months or so, I still am not sure about most people's vitals. Like I think that Jill Mingo-go and Moritz and a few other folks are in Europe someplace, but I'm not sure where. It can be helpful when people post info about concerts and events and radio programs and thrift store finds (yes, I like them), to also have an idea of their location. Esp with over 300 people, there may be more in some areas that I may have suspected? surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #159 *****************************