From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #293 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Monday, January 18 1999 Volume 02 : Number 293 In This Digest: (exotica) The Wedges (exotica) Dissvelt & Baltan = Elektrosonics Re: (exotica) Another host for the FAQ (exotica) Ultra Lounge Re: (exotica) musicmaker.com cd Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge and Scamp details Re: (exotica) Peter Gunn favorites Re: (exotica) Les Baxter (and Sun Ra) (exotica) Vic Damone: A Report from the concert that I attended last night (exotica) Leda Subject: (exotica) Mr. Lucky plays SF (exotica) Jim Fassett Re: (exotica) musicmaker.com cd (exotica) List Page Moved... Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge (exotica) Album Cover Art Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge/Scamp (exotica) Re: TAN : tangential: just a comment Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge (exotica) Goblin's Suspira soundtrack (exotica) Just a comment (exotica) Satan Takes A Holiday Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge (exotica) Just another comment (exotica) Peter Gunn Re: (exotica) Just another comment (exotica) I'm no audiophile, but... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:49:16 -0800 From: Jack Subject: (exotica) The Wedges Ben posted something about a rekkid on the TIME label called ..."The Wedges" that LOOKS like SURF, big time, but is beatnik crime jazz. Well, I found a copy of the record today and listened to it and what it is in reality, is, a repackaging of "Murder, Inc." from the same label. TIME. Gotta love it Needless to say, there are NO LINER NOTES about Murder, Inc or SURF or nothin' Think I fuckin' care ? No way JD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:00:08 -0800 From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Dissvelt & Baltan = Elektrosonics While I'm fishing here....does ANYONE have a copy of anything by Tom Dissevelt (The Electrosoniks, Fantasy In Orbit) that they would be up to selling or trading??? I'm desperate. Actually, I'd entertain ANY moog stuff people have floating around that they would barter with...I've got a great collection, but there are lots of gaps I'd love to bridge! Hey maaaaaaaaan, Tom Dissvelt ONLY made 1 solo LP and that is called "Fantasy in Orbit", ONLY released on Philips. Dissvelt/Baltan OR The Elektrosonics ONLY made 1 record together called "Song of the 2nd Moon" on Limelight AND on Philips AS The Elektrosonics-Electronic Music This rekkid, btw, was THE REKKID that rocked Jean Jacques Perrey's world so hard, that he decided to do the voodoo that he does, Soooooooooooooooooooooooo Wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, even though it is NOTHING IN THE WORLD LIKE JJP AT ALL, WHAT-SO-EVER JD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:11:28 EST From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Another host for the FAQ In a message dated 1/16/99 11:05:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, exotica@munich.netsurf.de writes: << To all the recent Exotica "newbies": Get your free state-of-the-art knowledge package now! The official Exotica mailing list Frequently Asked Questions are here now, too: http://homepages.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt Mo >> Mo, I am just so impressed. Your are work is spectacular and the web-site additions are excellent and well thought out. Sincere regards and my appreciation, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:29:36 -0800 From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Ultra Lounge >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:48:42 -0500 >From: "m.ace" >Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter (and Sun Ra) >This is why some people (me fr'example) get kind of cranky regarding the >"Ultra Lounge" series. Capitol ground out that endless series of cutesy >comps and not even one straight-up album reissue from the Baxter catalog. Why should they ? They aren't idiots and the mass buying public are, 'cause they ate 'em up. Baaahhhhh Baaaaaaaaahhhhh (sounds of sheep) If they (Capitol) issued an entire LP or a compilation of 1 artist such as Baxter, they couldn't continue to reap all the benefits of jerking all of those same people off again and again and again AND AGAIN with their insipid compilations. SCAMP on the other hand, was totally the opposite and the MAIN REASON, CAPITOL, Read; Ultra Lounge, put a STOP to their beautiful reissues. SCAMP WAS AWESOME. Original album covers, original liner notes, GORGEOUS PERFECT SOUND FIDELITY That's right. Mr. Big Bad Brad Benedick, YOUR PAL, says off the record, "If I had any say in the matter at all, whatsoever in regard to SCAMP reissuing ANY or all of that Denny stuff, they NEVER WOULD HAVE REISSUED ANY OF IT. "We can milk the public idiots for all they are worth, instead of issuing an entire LP, we can jerk them off with the Ultra Lounge compilations. "Capitol" and "SCAMP", believe it or not are from the very same "master company" or at least they were, maybe not now. EMI, if I'm not mistaken. Cleve ? Zat it ? EMI ? EMI (or whomever) gave "Capitol" TONS OF MONEY for advertising and marketing, yet gave SCAMP, diddli-squat, which means SHIT, btw, and then "EMI" says, "You guys don't sell anything like the Ultra-Lounge series does" Well, gee, dickbrain, I wonder why. This is also the MAIN REASON, Scamp's "Outer Space" compilation, which was going to include much of Jimmie Haskel's "Countdown" LP along with Russ Garcia's "Fantastica" never happened. Aren't you all so glad you ate up the Ultra Lounge series CD's ? You helped KILL, SCAMP. Ohhhhhhhhhh, don't we all love the politics of the music industry ? JD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:16:29 EST From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) musicmaker.com cd In a message dated 1/17/99 5:08:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, bag@hubris.net writes: << FYI: Here is what I got (and how they charge for it): 1-Misirlou ??? (2:35)- $1.99 2-Caravan Duke Ellington (3:43)- $1.99 3-B'wana Bongos Preston Epps (1:56)- $1.99 4-Quizas, Quizas, Quizas Ferrante & Teicher (3:19)- $1.99 >> Etc . . . . . . I quickly counted $ 24.00. Is it just me or does this seam steep?? Is Jack involved with this??? (haha -- now comes the wrath) Respectfully, Robert "the cheap-skate" Brooks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:34:14 EST From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge and Scamp details In a message dated 1/17/99 8:28:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, jack@jackdiamond.com writes: << That's right. Mr. Big Bad Brad Benedick, YOUR PAL, says off the record, "If I had any say in the matter at all, whatsoever in regard to SCAMP reissuing ANY or all of that Denny stuff, they NEVER WOULD HAVE REISSUED ANY OF IT. >> So this is the grit on this whole pissing match? Ashley, can you give us any comments with out making the lawyers drool? Respectfully, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 99 21:02:33 -0400 From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Peter Gunn favorites >I need your help. I am trying to round out an hour of only Peter Gunn >recordings, but can't quite make it with what I think I have in my >library. Please, what are some of your favorite performances of >the Peter Gunn theme...that is, other than Henry Mancini's. artist - album title - ------------------------ Buddy Morrow - Impact Sy Zentner - Fraom Russia w/ Love Bobby Hackett - Plays Mancini Jack Costanzo - (ultralounge - mambo fever) Skip Martin - TV jazz themes Jack Marshall - Tuff Jack There are about ten others that I have but I wouldn't recommend them as highly. Also; The Trashwomen do a very silly version. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 99 21:02:30 -0400 From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter (and Sun Ra) >On a more pleasant note, I've been (slowly) reading John Szwed's fine Sun >Ra biography, "Space Is The Place". And it seems that Sun Ra was -- well, >"fan" would probably be too strong a word, an "interested listener" then -- >to Baxter, Denny, David Rose. He even did a cover of "Possession" (actually >a Harry Revel composition?) from the "Perfume Set To Music" theremin album >on "Jazz By Sun Ra" (1957) Yes,yes! I too have been reading this excellent bio and have been complimenting it with many early Sun Ra recordings. This past fall I had come to the conclusion that Sun Ra was influenced by Les Baxter. It's very obvious if you open your mind and listen to the evidence. The biograpy hints at this but tends to down play it. Unfortunately much jazz writing tends to favor the hypothesis of the rootsy originality of African-American musicians. God forbid that someone like Sun Ra should be influenced by Baxter! The truth is Baxter's music introduced exotic rhythms to many more Americans besides the HiFi batchelor. This reminds me. A friend of mine has long held that he read an interview with Baxter. In this interview Baxter seemed to be very bitter that he never got the credit he deserved for inventing the rock 'n roll beat! Does this sound remotely familiar to any one? Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:05:47 EST From: JayMan282@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Vic Damone: A Report from the concert that I attended last night Last night at the Ceritos Center for the Performing Arts in Souhtern California I had the pleasure of seeing Vic Damone in concert. He played a 90 mintue show that started shortly after 8pm. I got to the venue about 6pm (better to be too early then late) after I had finished dining at a local restaurant. Dressed in my suit and tie I toured the state of the art facility and then had a gin martini at one of the many bars located throughout the theater. About a half past 7 I entered the autitourium and found my seat. Close to 8pm I had the feeling you always get right before a show starts, the moment of anticpation you might say. After 8pm acompaned by a quartet made up of a guitar and bass (both electric) and a piano and drums, Vic Damone came out and started with THE SONG IS YOU just as I thought he would. He then did a few more fast songs like WATCH WHAT HAPPENS. He then began to complain about a cold draft on stage and suggested somebody do something about it or he would "have no more songs to sing". he said "see what you can do, talk to God, know how? get on the phone and say Hello, Frank??" This statement broguht applause and he actually disscussed Sinatra at length in part of the concert. He then sang some more songs and early on in the performance with certain songs he would take some at a bossa nova tempo ocassionally swicthing over to a ballad or straight swinging tempo half way thorugh some songs. Other songs in the perfomance included BLUE MOON, WHERE OR WHEN, I CRIED FOR YOU. and many toher old standards. At one point in the performance he talked about how he had been influenced by Frank and how Frank was his idol and thats what inspired him to pursue singing. He told us a story about how he had met Frank. He said he used to sing on the radio when ever the dodgers would get rained out. It would alwasy be him and the orchestra with no audience leading one to believe that maybe records were being played. One day the Dodgers were rained out and Frank being a big dodger fan was listening while he was playing some cards with Sammy Cahn and some other people. Vic was singing and then Sammy said "Frank are those your records?" Frank said "yeah". So after awhile they came on and said that was Vic Damone. Vic told us that at times he would sound like Sinatra to some people and Frank had even thoguht it was himself. So Frank called the station and asks to speak to Vic. Vic takes the call thinking that it isn't really Sinatra and his pals from Brooklyn have played a trick on him because they know he loves Sinatra. vic takes the call and Frank introduces himself only to get this response from Vic "Yeah right and I 'm the Pope!!!". Vic hangs up and Frank calls back again only to be hung up on. "Hi this is Frank Sinatra" " and I'm still the pope!!" Then Vic gets invited by Ed Sullivan to sing at madison square garden. It was a benefit for cancer reaserch. Vic show up and Frank spots him. Frank says" you, come here, you're a wise guy you know that?? you hung up on me twice" Vic said "i'm really sorry I thought it was my pals playing a joke on me" Frank said "you're all right kid, Ed I want this guy to go on after me". "sure Frank whatever you say" Well Frank did his thing introduced Vic and Vic gave a great performance . Vic contined to sing and still sounds the same after all these years. He even sang a few songs associated with sinatra, DAY BY DAY and I FALL IN LOVE TOO EASILY were the ones he did. Of couse no Damone performance is complete without him singing ON THE STREET WHERE YOU LIVE. He told us about how he came to finally record that song. He said originally he wanted to record I'VE GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO HER FACE. Vic accompaniest suggested he do ON THE STREET WHERE YOU LIVE. Vic said that they btter get Mitch Millers opinion. mitch agreed that Vic should record it and said lets get another opinion. They went and asked percy faith if it would eba good idea for Vic to record it. Percy said it would be and thus it was recorded with Percy Faith doing the arrangement. It was one of the last songs Vic sang that night and he still sings it as wonderfully as he did when he first recorded it back in 1956. Vic sang abother song whose mane escapes me at the moment. He then took a bow thanked everyone including his new wife and walked off and everyone thoguht that was it. He had exited stage left and was gone and some people thought that was the end. Luckily he came back out and ended up closing with YOU AND THE NIGHT AND THE MUSIC. It was a great show. I enjoyed the stories he had to tell just as much as his singing. The only disapointment I have is that it was not a full orchestra backing him as I hoped there would be. I guess it's just to expensive these days. Anyway, he is still a great singer and better than Tony Bennett in my opinion.He said he doesn't work that hard anymore and occasionally takes a job. If any of you get an opportunity to see him. I recomend you take it. Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 18:59:16 +0000 From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Leda A public thank you to Darrell Brogdon for introducing me and the many listeners of The Retro Cocktail Hour to Leda (pronounced Lay-da). As Darrell said in his program, Leda out-Ymas Yma Sumac in the performance of dramatic wordless vocals. If he hadn't introduced me to the album "Portrait of Leda," a Columbia Adventures in Sound LP WL 114, I wouldn't have recognized it when I ran across it today at Djangos. I was even more pleased that this rare LP from 1954 was found in the 20 cent bin in virtually unplayed condition! Portland, Oregon born Phil Moore composed and conducted the extended piece, sort of a progressive jazz symphony with Leda doing the wordless vocals solos. It is amazing. Unfortunately, the album notes are extremely vague about who Leda Annest was or if she recorded anywhere else. But the album notes are fun to read anyway. "To listen to Leda is to hear the secret voices of the wellsprings of life come to the ear one after the other...." "...to dare sing that way, is to make yourself available to every kind of dark fear, every passion, every momentary qualm, every sinister seed of horror to which human kind is prone." If you actually know something about either Phil Moore or Leda Annest, I'd be interested! Byron (THIS IS MY SIGNATURE IN ASCII: APOLOGIES TO NON-ASCII VIEWERS) /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:12:36 -0800 From: James G Subject: Subject: (exotica) Mr. Lucky plays SF Otto, Could the aforementioned Josh Brody be aka "Righteous Raoul" , keyboard player of late 70's SF proto-bizarro-lounge-comedy trio Rick and Ruby ? They were 20 years ahead of their time, lovingly satirizing the Vegas shtick in funky comedy dives with twisted impressions of johnny cash, dylan, charo etc . They would do all of West Side Story in about 3 minutes, Ruby placing a soggy cocktail napkin on her head to be Maria. I recall seeing Ruby clerking in a Betty Boop merchandise only store in SF, but read somewhere she quit to raise a family, and every few years Rick's or Josh's name pops up like it did here. I will treasure the many nights I saw Rick and Ruby and Righteous Raoul, and might even drag my ass out of the north bay burbs and try to park in the Haight, which is really Mission Impossible. JBG (after years on the list in various guises, i switched over to digest during vacation last summer and have lurked since . I guess its not THAT much of a pain to respond from the digest, it cuts down the daily mail, and makes one think a bit before posting) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:23:09 -0800 From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Jim Fassett Just scored a rekkid I have been searching hi and looooooooooow for, for about 8 years Jim Fassett-Strange To Your Ears The 1 that he is most known for though, is his "Symphony of The Birds" from circa 1960, Mono ONLY. He took field recordings of all sorts of birds, twisted up the tapes musique concrete wise and created a 1 of a kind recording that is 1 serious harsh fucked up mess of beauty that this world has never heard since! See and read all about it here; http://www.mit.edu:8001/afs/athena.mit.edu/user/p/a/paseifer/www/home.html There are 3 sound samples:-) Yum yum With "Strange To Your Ears", though, he did the same thing BUT with Barn Yard Animals:) It's on Columbia Masterworks. FIND IT NOW AND ROCK ON! Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:59:21 +0000 From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) musicmaker.com cd At 08:16 PM 17-01-99 EST, Robert wrote: >I quickly counted $ 24.00. Is it just me or does this seam steep?? I agree. It is steep and I wouldn't want to do this every day...but I thought it a good way to organize a bunch of cuts the way I want on a permanent CD without buying a CD burner and then buying all the records to copy onto the CD and buying something to print onto the face of the CD and then buying the rights to do this. It would help me justify the cost if the selections were the ultimate cuts or the greatest masters, but I won't know this until I get the CD. Also, being that this is a "new" approach, I imagine that the price is the cost of early technology adoption. Once more music is sold this way, I imagine the cost will go down. By the way, I could have got it for a little less ($1 a cut for EVERY cut) by digitally downloading the cuts and then writing onto a CD...but think of the time and hardware costs, too. The price keeps me from doing this more often, but for a one time experiment I thought it reasonable to do it. Byron (THIS IS MY SIGNATURE IN ASCII: APOLOGIES TO NON-ASCII VIEWERS) .- / \ / ___) | | ; _. ;__ / \ | | /"-. / () | ) <}____/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___/ \_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:28:54 -0700 From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: (exotica) List Page Moved... FYI, the address of the list home page has moved to: Please update any bookmarks you might have! - -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:14:39 -0700 From: "Kevin C." Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge Jack wrote: > SCAMP on the other hand, was totally the opposite and the MAIN REASON, > CAPITOL, Read; Ultra Lounge, put a STOP to their beautiful reissues. Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't there not been any activity from the UltraLounge in over two years? While the popularity of UL is true, it seems to me that the Scamp stuff (at least the Denny material with which I am familiar) appeals to a different audience, hence there isn't the great conspiracy you present. > SCAMP WAS AWESOME. Original album covers, original liner notes, GORGEOUS > PERFECT SOUND FIDELITY Oh yes! They are teh BEST reissues I've ever seen. Reallly! Couldn't agree more! > Aren't you all so glad you ate up the Ultra Lounge series CD's ? > > You helped KILL, SCAMP. All politics aside, most of the UL albums I've seen are very good introductions to the material. And I do like the packaging, liner notes, etc. And, with all due respect Mr. Diamond, some of us haven't been around since this stuff was new. I want to listen to the stuff, but on the other hand I do have a life and cannot invest in scrounging every flea market and record fair for a forty year old lp which is scratched or ruined. If that's your gig, that's no skin off my back, but you have to admit that the UL series brought a lot of this music to the "masses" who may NEVER have known about it. UL has helped the visibility of the scene immensely. That some other companies are also reissuing is only helping the availability of some material seeing the light of day on CD (sans scratches and pops). At least the UL series was well produced and packed a lot of bang for your buck. What harsh words do you have for the "From a Bachelor's Den" and other series'? > Ohhhhhhhhhh, don't we all love the politics of the music industry ? > JD Very true. Someone from Ryko emailed me and told me that the reason they went with "single" albums for the Lyman reissues (at about $12) rather than a "two for 1" like the Denny material ($15) was that retailers liked the cheaper price better. I would probably buy a lot more Lyman if it was 60 mins per disc instead of 30 (and if the liner notes were anything approaching the quality of the Scamp material). Look, I admit I am a newbie. BUT, there is always another perspective. This is mine. I do not have years of experience, a huge record collection, or a radio show. I appreciate the voice of experience; how you appreciate my point of view as well. Kevin Crossman The Search for the Ultimate Mai Tai http://www.kevdo.com/maitai/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:50:25 -0800 From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Album Cover Art The GENIUS Album Cover Art World of Jim Flora; http://www.inhi-fi.com/flora/a.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:12:43 -0800 (PST) From: mighty65@pacbell.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge/Scamp Regarding the Capitol UL vs Scamp 'contraversy' raised, its a matter of business imperatives of each company. Yes, Capitol and Caroline are both operating units of EMI, but they have differing mandates as business entities. They also have substantially differing resources allocated to them from EMI. Though I have not worked "inside" either company, I was on retainer at Capitol to aid in marketing both the first and second phases of the U/L series. I also worked at a company just prior to that which was distributed by Capitol. "Straight" re-issues of long out of print releases however cool they may be considered currently, was not a venture that was going to help Capitol increase its market share at the time. Straight re-issues take a great deal of preparation in sourcing the best masters, artwork, additional liner notes... to do them justice for a very limited potential market. Major labels need to cater on the whole to mass market or potential mass market appeal. Even Sony's deep pockets are extremely selective about which artists and titles they select for comprehensive re-issue/repackage and cd upgrade campaigns. How many titles come out annually on Sony Legacy? Not many. And Sony has vastly deeper pockets and along with a deeper catalog than EMI (studied opinion). I give credit to the executives at Capitol at the time (they've since been booted) for having the balls to back Benedict's vision. Particularly at a time when Capitols' market share was lagging behind most of their competition. They could have easily earmarked those a&r and marketing budgets for releases aimed blatantly at chart success, rather than betting on Brad's vision for U/L. As for Scamp/Caroline, they do not have the imperitive to sell records in the volume that Capitol does, from EMI. They can afford to devote money and resources to releases selling much fewer units than Capitol can. Developing smaller releases (and labels) is expressly part of Caroline's corporate mandate. I have a hard time believing Capitol thwarted Scamps continued exploitation of EMI's masters. Brad may have expressed his desire to 'do' straight reissues under Capitol's banner, but that did not happen in the first place for a *reason* ! On a biz level, the will/intent was not there to get into an extentsive line of artist comps and re-issues. Why Scamp/Caroline may have stopped with their series, I haven't any impressions of, as I do of Capitol's reasoning at the time. While understanding the idealism of having a deep line of reissues from Capitol (and select other majors), I'm pragmatist enough to know that kids are not going to be lining up to have Ferrante And Teicher cds signed at instore appearances any time soon. I'm more than happy to see a few grooving on the quality UL comps. Its an optimistic trend for pop music overall, imho. Paul Moshay/Toluca Lake, Calif. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 99 14:06:28 +0100 From: Bissia Subject: (exotica) Re: TAN : tangential: just a comment Hugh: >Life would be so much simpler if the UK joined the USA instead >of Europe...... That I'm not very sure of ... ') # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:20:08 EST From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge In a message dated 99-01-18 00:14:33 EST, Kevin write: << Look, I admit I am a newbie. BUT, there is always another perspective. This is mine. I do not have years of experience, a huge record collection, or a radio show. I appreciate the voice of experience; how you appreciate my point of view as well. >> Never apologize for being a newbie. This party is big enough for all. The UL series occupies a different niche and regardless of the Capitol dealings lots of folks appreciate UL. Byron just told us he paid close to 25 bucks to have a comp CD made. The UL series are comps and, even tho Capitol made lots of money off of them, most people feel they got their money's worth. Merits on both sides of this issue my friends. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:03:15 +0000 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Goblin's Suspira soundtrack This weekend I went to Music and Video Exchange in Notting Hill (London= ) and scoured all eight second-hand shops for something to buy. I turned = up absolutely nothing except for Goblin's Suspira soundtrack. However, the= shop wants =A345 for it (I have some vouchers after exchanging loads of= old crap records so its not really too hard on the pocket). Its been recommended to me in the past but would anybody care to give m= e the lowdown again? Its 1977, Italian and features a Moog. I notice that= Goblin's Profondo Rosso soundtrack has just been reissued - Are there m= ore Goblin soundtracks on their way I wonder? I saw plenty of overpriced records at the exchange including (on a topi= cal note) the mono Casino Royale soundtrack for =A359. These days, it seems= that the more record shops I visit, the more I am convinced that the Interne= t is the only way to shop. Having said that, why is it that with at least 40= 0 dealers online, I can't find a bloody copy of Ray McVay's Roadshow or Chaquito's Spies and Dolls. I despair, I really do! = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:13:41 +0000 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Just a comment Hugh: >Life would be so much simpler if the UK joined the USA instead >of Europe...... Please God No! We will not be sucked into that environment of triviality and entertainment-driven commercialism. But then who wants to be part of a super-state of sausage-mongers, lazy buggers and the great unwashed anyway? Charlie. (Just kidding on all counts - Please rant and rave with great vengance and furious anger) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:18:51 -0500 From: "naile" Subject: (exotica) Satan Takes A Holiday Well, I guess this is about as "exotic" as you can get.... I picked up "Satan Takes A Holiday" by none other than Anton Szandor LaVey himself! Anton is quite the accomplished organ player! However, his vocal stylings are about on par with Jack Webb's version of "Try a Little Tenderness". This is a delightful "must-have" cd. I ordered mine from musicblvd.com. Where else can you get the Master of Evil playing such delightful ditties as "Satan Takes A Holiday" and "Honolulu Baby"? My co-workers think I've finally gone over the edge. I like this better than my David Koresh CD. anyone else have this one? - -Kev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:38:55 -0500 From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge At 9:14 PM -0700 1/17/99, Kevin C. wrote: >Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't there not been any activity from the >UltraLounge in over two years? The reason is that Brad Benedict has been devoting his time to setting up his Coolsville label (Big Bad Voodoo Daddy), which was originally being distributed by Capitol, but is now part of UNI. >the Scamp stuff (at least the Denny material with which I am >familiar) appeals to a different audience, hence there isn't the great >conspiracy you present. The 'conspiracy' was that any potential Ultra Lounge material (from the Capitol, Liberty, UA, Imperial vaults) was put under lock and key and was not available for licensing to any other label, including labels that were under the same corporate parent. The Denny recordings were licensed before this happened; otherwise, they would not have appeared. >Someone from Ryko emailed me and told me that the reason they went >with "single" albums for the Lyman reissues (at about $12) rather than a "two >for 1" like the Denny material ($15) was that retailers liked the cheaper >price better. well.....................it really has nothing to do with retailers A "single" album has less tracks, so the cost incurred in publishing and songwriting royalties is lower. They would have to get a reduced royalty rate to do a two fer. Never forget the second word in the phrase "music business"; if a label doesn't make money, they cease to exist. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:42:52 +0100 From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Just another comment Charles Moseley wrote: > Hugh: > > >Life would be so much simpler if the UK joined the USA instead > >of Europe...... > > Please God No! > We will not be sucked into that environment of triviality and > entertainment-driven commercialism. But then who wants to be part of a > super-state of sausage-mongers, lazy buggers and the great unwashed anyway? Some people here came up with this great new conspiracy theory, stating that Al Gore and Tony Blair plus some influential English families are behind the entire impeachment thing against Clinton. Final goal is the collapse of the American empire and reinstallment of its status as a British crown colony! May I add: Best of luck to both of them smart-guys! I can't wait for the day when McDonald's, the famous Scottish restaurant, will be serving plumpudding instead of apple pie and "french fries" will be renamed into "squash fingers"! Mo "von" R"ichthofen" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:28:33 -0500 From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Peter Gunn Well, there's the Art of Noise version, which is great. Also, there are two or three different versions on the various UL comps. I can't remember off the top of my head. Also, Oranj Symphonette does a version mixed with Baby Elephant Walk which is... well, moderately successful. It could have been better. Also, Sarah Vaughn sings the Mancini songbook, which I think includes Peter Gunn. I've heard a version, and that was definitely "irritainment", though I usually love Sarah. Also, I think there's a pretty generic version on the Verve Talkin' Verve with a Twist comp. Also, I'd bet dollars to donuts that the Ventures did it somewhere. ;) Then, I'd suggest you head to CDNow or someplace similar and do a title search for Peter Gunn. Anyway, I'm curious to see the list you've got already... Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:50:21 -0600 From: grinderman@juno.com (Jeffery Hess) Subject: Re: (exotica) Just another comment >But then who wants to be part of a super-state of sausage-mongers, lazy >buggers and the great unwashed anyway? Unwashed?!? I thought it was custom in Europe not to bathe for months on end, or is that just the French? Just a friendly tease, Jeff ************************************************************************************* Psych-Out! The cost of one admission is your myynd!! KDHX FM 88.1 Sunday mornings 3-6 AM (CST) Immediately following The Wayback Machine http//www.kdhxfm88.org ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:27:01 -0500 (EST) From: "David J. Strauss" Subject: (exotica) I'm no audiophile, but... I generally don't care about this sort of thing, unless it's egrigious, but I'm about to make my 2nd posting in three days about CD sound quality (the original Bitches Brew, natch). The Casino Royale CD sounds awful, just awful, tinny and meek. I have no idea how they could screw it up like that. My VG-- LP sounds better. One more reason the Lp costs so much. DS djs2852@is.nyu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #293 *****************************