From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #829 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Monday, October 30 2000 Volume 02 : Number 829 In This Digest: (exotica) Papa M (was Slint) Re: (exotica) jazz (exotica) ebay (exotica) Wanderley, Peterson (exotica) Raymond Scott update 11/00 Re: (exotica) Wanderley, Peterson (exotica) re: in the mood for love (exotica) Just how good are things when you're downtown? Re: (exotica) Just how good are things when you're downtown? (exotica) Don Ralke and Bongos RE: (exotica) Just how good are things when you're downtown? (exotica) Why Exotica? Re: (exotica) Papa M (was Slint) Re: (exotica) ebay Re: (exotica) Wanderley, Peterson (exotica) why Slint on Exotica? RE: (exotica) Papa M (was Slint) Re: (exotica) Why Exotica? (exotica) correction: "Fantastica" webcast: THURSDAY, not Tuesday Re: (exotica) Why Exotica? Re: (exotica) Don Ralke and Bongos (exotica) Re: Slint (exotica) jazz/easy listening ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 Oct 2000 20:12:48 -0800 From: mkg@calle22.com Subject: (exotica) Papa M (was Slint) And if you like Slint and into quiet music you should get everything the guitar player from Slint (David Pajo) has made after that. Aerial M is extremely good, and they have one full length and several Eps. And this years's Papa M is sooooooo good. I think it's probably the best record I've bought this year. It reminds me of that feeling you have when you go to sleep and you are not yet asleep but almost, and you have these weird pseudo-dreams, simple and complex and the same time... Mmm. Just writing about it has made me want to listen to it again. And going back to an old topic (the one about exotica and racism)... I just saw this film Woman on top and I really felt kinda insulted by it. There are so many times when Hollywood doesn't care about facts and just invents things up... are they stupid or what? Don't they know that they are making films for a global audience? It reminded me of Spielberg's Amistad where he had some 18th century Spanish sailors speaking Spanish with a heavy English accent. It is something that is not very important and that could be solved by anyone who has heard people speaking other languages... This lack of care just pisses me off... And in this Woman on top film you have a Spanish actress playing a Brazilian. And, let me tell you... There are HUGE differences between a Spaniard and a Brazilian. And she didn't even learned any portuguese... Sometimes I really hate Hollywood films... Bye, Manuel P.S. And about Nat King Cole's Esos ojos verdes... I'm sure you can get them here (in Colombia). I asked in a couple of small record stores but they didn't have it. Maybe in a bigger one they will... It was strange seeing that film because in the middle of this honkonese love story in comes this song in Spanish that rings all kinds of bells for people who have been in contact with popular culture in Latin America. And it is in the middle of this very alien film... It just goes to show that this global world sometimes has some very strange mixes... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:18:10 -0500 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) jazz >At 11:51 AM 10/25/00 -0700, F. Cobalt wrote: >> >>Speaking of having to work while listening to jazz versus not having to >work as hard while listening to easy listening, that's what's great about >crime jazz! It's pretty effort-free listening as jazz goes Oh speaking of crime jazz... I've been making my Mancini CDR's this weekend... Which is tough since so many of my Mancini records are in such lousy shape. It's a complaint I have with Mancini records. A tribute to the fact that people actually played them, unlike so many of the records we like. But anyway, if you can find one in good shape, a great crime jazz record - except that it wasn't made to support a particular film - is "The Mancini Touch". "Combo" isn't bad also, for a similar feel, but the tunes aren't as good as on Touch. "The Blues and the Beat" is also pretty good for that sound.(and also my copy is crappy. But it's the "Touch" that satisfies. I might even have to find it on CD, that's how much I like it. AZ AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:18:11 -0500 From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) ebay Will someone please remind me that when you figure in shipping charges and exchange rate, that every record costs at least 15 dollars more than the "apparent" price??? I should put up a sign to that effect. The Ventures record I "won" for 7.99 is costing me 18 dollars Canadian and the guy I won it from lives in the same country as me, about a hundred miles away. The three records I was "lucky" enough to win from the same guy for a quarter, a quarter and a dollar, are going to cost me about 16 dollars. The Bobby Troup record I bid on as a romantic gesture for four dollars is going to cost me almost twenty dollars because this guy charges a couple of bucks for actually going to the post office with your record. Aarrgghh! Luckily I'm still about even since that guy sent me 130 dollars for that worthless record I found at the Goodwill. But that's not the point! Somebody stop me! AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:32:35 -0500 (EST) From: delicado@cheerful.com Subject: (exotica) Wanderley, Peterson >If a man spells his name B-L-A-C-K and pronounces it W-H-I-T-E, the man's name is White. My suggestion: Go right to the horse and ask the source..he'll give us the answer that we endorse...JB Alas, Walter died in the early 80s. I have a couple of his suits, though. Honestly. I bought them on ebay, and they fit as well. Sorry, this seemed like a rare opportunity to boast to people who actually know who he was. 'Wanderley' doesn't sound much like a Brazilian name, does it..... But then again, neither did 'Baden Powell'. It's so rare that I ever talk to people out loud about Walter that I've never thought about it before... Jonny ps. bought 'motions and emotions', a fantastic Oscar Peterson LP the other day - German release on MPS with orchestrations by Claus Ogermann. Highly recommended. - ----------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:53:25 -0500 From: "Irwin Chusid/Raymond Scott Archives" Subject: (exotica) Raymond Scott update 11/00 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RAYMOND SCOTT NEWS UPDATE -- NOVEMBER 2000 -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # ELVIS COSTELLO FETES RAYMOND SCOTT # RAYMOND SCOTT ORCHESTRETTE 4-Month 'Residency' at Fez, NYC, begins Dec. 15 # JEAN-JACQUES PERREY PAYS TRIBUTE TO RAYMOND SCOTT'S OVERLOOKED LEGACY # Plus: - POWERHOUSE on the "CAMPAIGN" TRAIL - MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. - RAYMOND SCOTT MUSIC ON CD - AMBROSE & ORCHESTRA PLAY SCOTT * * * * * * * ELVIS COSTELLO'S 'BEST OF THE BEST' Elvis Costello compiled his all-time favorite ''albums essential for a happy life'' in the November 2000 VANITY FAIR magazine. Mr. Costello included two Raymond Scott collections: RECKLESS NIGHTS AND TURKISH TWILIGHTS (featuring the Raymond Scott Quintette), and MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. (electronic 1950s-60s). Mr. Costello also cited ''Limbo: The Organized Mind'' as one of his favorite tracks from MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. A clip of "Limbo" can be heard here: http://RaymondScott.com/sound * * * * * * * # RAYMOND SCOTT ORCHESTRETTE @ FEZ DEC. 15 The Raymond Scott Orchestrette, which performs modernistic arrangements of Scott tunes, begins a residency at Fez on Friday, Dec. 15. The once-a-month residency runs through March, 2001, and will feature special guests, new arrangements, and surprises at each show. The RSO consists of Wayne Barker (piano, arrangements); Brian Dewan (electric zither, piano, accordion, koto, electronics); Michael Hashim (saxes); Will Holshouser (accordion, arrangements); George Rush (bass); Rob Thomas (violin); and Clem Waldmann (drums). NOTE: Our pianist/emcee extraordinaire, Wayne Barker, is on tour with Dame Edna Everage, and will miss the Fez gigs. Filling in on piano for the December and January engagements will be Deidre Rodman, while Neil Kirkwood will sit in during February and March. RAYMOND ORCHESTRETTE STUDIO DEMO The RSO has recorded an 8-tune album demo and is seeking interested record labels. Inquiries: Irwin Chusid Visit the RSO info page: http://RaymondScott.com/orchette.html includes two audio files * * * * * * * # MANHATTAN RESEARCH, INC. (MRI) 2-CD set of Raymond Scott unreleased electronica MANHATTAN RESEARCH, INC., the 2-CD edition of Raymond Scott's unreleased electronic recordings released earlier this year by Basta, continues to garner extraordinary press coverage. MRI features over two hours of archival Scott recordings from the 1950s and '60s, performed on such RS inventions as the Electronium, Clavivox, Circle Machine (early sequencer), Rhythm Modulator, Bass-Line Generator, and Bandito the Bongo Artist. The album includes collaborative works with Jim Henson, and comes packaged in a 144-page book. MRI is available from Amazon.com:: amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004SYD6/raymondscottcom/ Jeff Winner and Irwin Chusid have collaborated on a lengthy article chronicling Scott's electronic music legacy for the December 2000 issue of Electronic Musician magazine (an analog *print* publication), which should hit newsstands in mid-November. * * * * * * * # POWERHOUSE ON THE "CAMPAIGN" TRAIL Raymond Scott's "Powerhouse" can currently be heard in a series of anti-smoking TV spots in a campaign produced for The Truth, funded by The American Legacy Foundation. The 60-second spot can be downloaded and viewed at RaymondScott.com: http://RaymondScott.com/News.html (The message of this ad campaign does not necessarily reflect the views of the Raymond Scott Archives, its Advisory Staff, or the publisher of "Powerhouse.") * * * * * * * # LETTER FROM JEAN-JACQUES PERREY The release of MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. prompted the following written appreciation of Raymond Scott by French electronic music pioneer Jean-Jacques Perrey (reprinted with permission): "When my friend Dana Countryman kindly gave me the MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. 2-CD set in Paris recently, I had no idea that a lot of memories from the year 1960 would come back to me while listening to this music, and reading this fantastic book. "In 1960, a few weeks after I arrived in the United States for the very first time, my sponsor Carroll Bratman decided to import Ondiolines from France to the U.S., and he asked me to demonstrate the Ondioline to Raymond Scott at Scott's studio. Carroll told me that this man was a very talented composer and was experimenting with new electronic music instruments that he had invented. And he added, "He is the composer of the tune 'The Toy Trumpet.'" So, I was very impressed, since that was my first contact with a well-known musician in the U.S., just arriving from Europe with all my hopes and projects. "We were very welcomed at Raymond Scott's studio (or should I say a "laboratory" instead!) and he was very enthusiastic about the Ondioline. He wanted one and it arrived after a few weeks. "By the way, you can see a photo of his Ondioline (after being modified -- with it's outer case removed) on page 77 in the MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. book, just to the right of Scott. That's why this album has reminded me so much of my first weeks in New York City. "I must say that I have been very enthusiastic about this album for many reasons. First of all, for Raymond Scott himself. This man was a true genius, deserving to be classified among the great pioneers of electronic music for his contributions to this domain. He deserves to be named in the history books, alongside of electronic musical instrument inventors such as Theremin, Pechadre, Trautwein, Harold Bode, Hugh le Caine, Givelet, Maurice Martenot, Georges Jenny, Bob Moog, and more to come. "Secondly, Raymond Scott composed a lot of music for radio and TV commercials which were very successful. He recorded with his own instruments (Clavivox, Electronium, etc.) and did his own composing on them. When I hear the two CDs contained in this Basta compilation, I am amazed of the versatility of his talent, creativity, originality, and imagination. "Thirdly, I want to pay tribute to Basta for putting such a wonderful album on the market, with a very serious documentary book full of interesting information, and in such a high-quality artistic package. MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. is a work of art which should be found in the record collections of all present-day electronic music composers. It also should be used as scholarly reference material. "Thank you, to have dared to issue an album of such quality. BRAVO!" Jean-Jacques Perrey Evian, France October, 2000 * * * * * * * # RAYMOND SCOTT MUSIC commercially available: For easy purchasing links for the following RS-related CDs, go to: http://RaymondScott.com/SDisc.html RECKLESS NIGHTS AND TURKISH TWILIGHTS (Sony Legacy, US; Basta, everywhere else) 1937-1939 original RS Quintette recordings, including most melodies immortalized in Warner Bros. cartoons SOOTHING SOUNDS FOR BABY (3 volumes, Basta) Scott's 1963 electronic lullabies for children of *all* ages; spooky minimalism and otherworldly ambient sounds predating Glass, Riley, Eno, Kraftwerk MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. (2 CDs, 144-page book, Basta) All-electronic works from 1950s-60s (see above) THE CHESTERFIELD ARRANGEMENTS (Basta) The METROPOLE ORCHESTRA with the Beau Hunks Saxtette Newly recorded orchestral arrangements of 17 Scott Quintet titles performed in "Cecil B. DeMille-like proportions" THE BEAU HUNKS SEXTETTE (Basta) CELEBRATION ON THE PLANET MARS 1994 recordings of classic RSQ repertoire MANHATTAN MINUET 1996 recordings of more classic RSQ repertoire BUG MUSIC (Nonesuch) Don Byron's project features six Scott Quintette titles, along with vintage Ellington and overlooked John Kirby tunes CARTOON MEDLEY CD (Rhino) Themes from the Cartoon Network, including two new arrangements of Scott's classic "Powerhouse" * * * * * * * # AMBROSE PLAYS RAYMOND SCOTT [Raymond Scott fan Jack Slagle writes:] "The British label AVID has released a 2-CD set of recordings by perhaps the most virtuosic UK big band of the 1930s, Ambrose and his Orchestra. The compilation, entitled SWING IS IN THE AIR, includes superb arrangements of the following Raymond Scott compositions: Twilight in Turkey Toy Trumpet Powerhouse The Penguin War Dance for Wooden Indians "Several of the album's other tracks were composed and arranged by Sid Phillips, an underrated musician not well known in the US, but who obviously admired Raymond Scott. Phillips' imaginative and colorful pieces are stylistically very similar to Scott's, including the comic titles: "Mr. Reynard's Nightmare," "Voodoo," "Streamline Strut," and "The Wedding of the Sophisticated Dutch Doll." All are played with tight perfection by Ambrose's Orchestra. An additional bonus is the top-notch remastering by AVID on these 60-year old recordings. "To get info on this CD, click on the following link and check out New Releases: http://www.avidgroup.co.uk. I purchased my copy by mail through Worlds Records in Novato, CA. (800)742-6633. "Perhaps someone could persuade the Beau Hunks and the Metropole Orchestra to try some of these arrangements? They would sound wonderful in stereo!" [Editor's note:] SWING IS IN THE AIR can also be purchased from Amazon.com: amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004TWKB/raymondscottcom/ * * * * * * * This mailing list has been compiled from those who have inquired about RAYMOND SCOTT over the years. Occasional news about RS will be issued, but this list will not be given to *anyone* for *any* reason. Let us know if you do not want to be included in our infrequent mailings. Best regards, Irwin Chusid Director, Raymond Scott Archives _____________________________________ Visit the Raymond Scott website http://RaymondScott.com created and maintained by Jeff Winner _____________________________________ _____________________________________ AND, on a nearly unrelated note, Irwin Chusid's recent Outsider Music book and CD are available. For full info: SONGS IN THE KEY OF Z: THE CURIOUS UNIVERSE OF OUTSIDER MUSIC http://www.keyofz.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:09:20 -0500 From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanderley, Peterson Huh. I think I know a chick we could all ask who would know for sure. Anyone know BJ's number? Peter - ----- Original Message ----- > Alas, Walter died in the early 80s. > I have a couple of his suits, though. > Honestly. I bought them on ebay, and they fit as well. Sorry, this seemed like a rare opportunity to boast to people who actually know who he was. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:03:31 +0800 From: "william" Subject: (exotica) re: in the mood for love i have to say i am super jealous that you have seen this. as it appears that it is playing here with no english subtitles. only chinese ones.:( however some of the older wong kar-wai movies have been on tv here recently. "chunking express" and "happy together" just in the last week. yesterday i saw the "regular" version of the soundtrack to "in the mood for love" that appears to be packed with postcards. i plan to pick it up in the future just to see how it differs from the big packaging i got. i supspect this one with the postcards(they appear to be postcards at least) will be the one most likely to show up in chinatowns elsewhere. william in taipei. > I saw this movie last week - as usual, Wong Kar Wai's movies have > incredible music. Visually, it's a beautiful film, fairly slow-moving, > but captivating. And, of course, the different sorts of music reflect > the moods of the film, and what is happening. The Nat King Cole music > is played when the two lead actors are together, often at an > American-style restaurant, and it really is incredible - I wonder if > those pieces are readily available elsewhere. > > The info on the music is very enlightening - it's too bad I didn't know > all of this before I saw the film - it does explain a lot, although it > can be appreciated in retrospect too. > > I haven't seen the soundtrack here, although the film hasn't even been > commercially released here yet, so who knows... > > cheryl > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:59:19 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Just how good are things when you're downtown? Charles Moseley asked how the "Sound of Tony Hatch" album was. Well, finally having listened to all of it, it's OK. Alan Zweig makes mention of his affinity for easy listening and much of this album falls into that category. Some of it gets to what I used to call "super-charged Pop", not quite Rock, not quite Pop ala the Serendipity Singers, which is the stuff I prefer, such as his renditions of "Sugar and Spice" and "I Know a Place". There are no vocals on this album. Is it worth getting? Yes, but don't pay too much (I paid nine dollars). What I forgot about is the other record that I got that I found, which is "The Savage, Sensuous Sound of Bongos" by Don Ralke. The back of the record says, "It's Bongos! by Don Ralke" (I wonder if he invented the Internet...). King Kini has or had this one and I suspect Darrell Brogdon does, too and it is one of the titles that I don't recall anyone mentioning. It's a great one, not a bad cut on it. It is a great collection of tuned and non-tuned percussion. Don Ralke, was one of the great chameleons of music in the 50's and 60's. This record features the second version of "Saoco" I have heard, which is very good, indeed. The other one is on the "Cuba Classics 2: Dancing With the Enemy" comp on Luaka Bop, which is also fantastic. "Saoco" is Latin-sounding as "Jennie Lee" by Jan and Dean (they were backed by "Don Ralke's Music" is Pop-sounding). If you see it, git it! Git it, na-yow! Inner sleeves. Hoo-ray for inner sleeves! On it, I saw an album called "Powerhouse" by Buddy Cole. How is that one? Surely, it must be better than another album I saw on another sleeve: game show host Bill Cullen's "Minstrel Show Songs" album (fortunately, not in blackface on the front). Favorite Liner Notes of the moment: Dave Brubeck's "Bossa Nova, U.S.A.". Describing the Teo Macero song, "Curacao Sensival": "For this song, I'm going to let Teo Macero speak for himself." "Thanks, Dave," says Teo Macero. *Thump*, "Ohh!", Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:23:45 -0500 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Just how good are things when you're downtown? At 07:59 AM 10/30/00 -0400, Brian Phillips wrote: > >Charles Moseley asked how the "Sound of Tony Hatch" album was. Well, >finally having listened to all of it, it's OK. Some of it gets to what I used to call "super-charged Pop", not >quite Rock, not quite Pop ala the Serendipity Singers, which is the stuff I >prefer, such as his renditions of "Sugar and Spice" and "I Know a >Place". There are no vocals on this album I love Tony Hatch. The Burt Bacharach of Britain. I'm surprised Charles - being British and all -would ask about that one. Then again maybe he doesn't have every British record, just like he doesn't know every British person. Anyway I had this. And if I wasn't on a major purge, I would have kept it. But I only allowed myself to keep one so I kept "Beautiful in the Rain" because it has that amazing version of "An Occasional Man". How is it? Not as good as "Beautiful in the Rain" or the "Latin Tony Hatch" but better than most records by people who aren't Tony Hatch. Interesting terminology there Brian Philips (two can play at this name game). What you're calling "super charged pop" is what I call "NOW Sound". Tony Hatch is pretty well at the epicentre of the Now Sound for me. It's instrumental pop music that doesn't rock but does groove. Now I feel bad that I got rid of that Tony record. (But I have it on CDR somewhere around here....) >What I forgot about is the other record that I got that I found, which is >"The Savage, Sensuous Sound of Bongos" by Don Ralke. The back of the >record says, "It's Bongos! by Don Ralke" Unless there's another record with Bongos and Don Ralke, I "won" this on ebay weeks ago for a couple of bucks (plus a thousand for shipping) and it has been on its way to my house supposedly ever since. The guy warned me against going surface mail but this is getting ridiculous. (And believe it or not I'm about to send the same guy more money.) Anyway if Brian Philips says this is good, I'm looking forward to it even more than I was. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:55:38 -0600 From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Don Ralke and Bongos > What I forgot about is the other record that I got that I found, >which is "The Savage, Sensuous Sound of Bongos" by Don >Ralke. The back of the record says, "It's Bongos! by Don Ralke" >It's a great one, not a bad cut on it. It is a great collection of >tuned and non-tuned percussion. I second that! One of the GREAT bongo records. My copy is mono; I'd love to find it in stereo. > Unless there's another record with Bongos and Don Ralke Don Ralke did other bongo records besides "The Savage and Sensuous". There was "But You've Never Heard Gershwin with Bongos" for Warner Bros., and "Bongo Madness" for one of the fly- by-night labels--Crown, I think it was. The Gershwin record is just what the title says, Gershwin standards with a bongo beat. "Bongo Madness" is small group stuff, much more in the vein of "Savage and Sensuous". And wasn't he also involved in "Jazz Heat, Bongo Beat"? Don't remember if he gets credit on the album, but I seem to recall somebody mentioning he was in there. FYI, on "Bongo Madness", his last name is spelled with an accent mark on the "e" in Ralke. What's up with that? Darrell Brogdon Program Director KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence KS 66045 Listen to KANU on the Web at http://kanu.ukans.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:51:25 -0000 From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Just how good are things when you're downtown? Tony Hatch's Sound of the 70s is the excellent Tony Hatch LP that I own, with a couple of very groovy tunes on it that appear on the exoticaring CD I did which is knocking around somewhere (although I haven't heard anything about it for a while). Charlie Editor C3 Magazine 3 St Peter's Street London N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 (direct) +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 (switchboard) Fax: +44 (0) 207 226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:29:15 -0400 From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Why Exotica? Alan wrote: >The main reason I switched from [ X ] to easy listening was because the >records were way cheaper and also way less predictable. That nails it! These are exactly the reasons I got into exotica. (In my case, let X="World Music.") cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:34:12 PST From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Papa M (was Slint) >And if you like Slint And how can we forget the band Codeine. They were the band that led me to Slint and all that slo-core stuff. They are right up there with Slint both slow dynamic and highly melodic. I think that they might have been an influence on bands like Mogwai, early Arab Strap and some of those other Scottish bands that seem to have lifted the slocore schtick from us. Their album Frigid Stars (Sub Pop) is a classic. I think its OOP at the moment, but can be found used everywhere. Doug Scharin was in this band which pops it directly in the Tortoise/Chicago family tree. why, although I love this stuff, are we talking about this on the exotica list? I find it interesting that so many of us on this list are into it. Is there some kind of connection??? is it an age thing (me being in my early 30s) or is there an "exotic" connection somewhere. Lets ponder this for a moment shall we? - -jonny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:40:38 GMT From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) ebay AZ wrote >Luckily I'm still about even since that guy sent me 130 dollars for >that >worthless record I found at the Goodwill what "worthless"(?) record was that? and I hope you didn't find it at that "by the pound" Goodwill outlet on Adelaide st., 'cause I go there all the time and get nuthin'. But a 130 bucks - very good! do tell jb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:43:14 PST From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanderley, Peterson >Anyone know BJ's number? I think its- 1-800-WALTERRULESOVERALL talk about a subject string killer!! **ahem** - -jonny samba What about them Wanderley suits on ebay?? I missed that one?!? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:04:09 GMT From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) why Slint on Exotica? Mr. J. Yuma wrote >why, although I love this stuff, are we talking about this on the exotica >list? I find it interesting that so many of us on this list are into it. Is >there some kind of connection??? is it an age thing (me being in my early >30s) or is there an "exotic" connection somewhere. Lets ponder this for a >moment shall we? I don't think there's a strong connection musically between exotica and bands like Slint, Mogwai and GSYBE!; although I'm sure one could make a case for minor similarities here and there. I think it is because virtually all of us on this list arrived at exotica after a devoting ourselves to a long and winding road of other musical styles. You don't really chuck that out when you become interested in exotica. I didn't at least. I'd consider it odd if one only listened to exotica, or whose first introduction to the joy of music was exotica. So I guess it's related to an age thing (I'm in my early 30's too) and the fact that at our age there's a lot of other music besides exotica per se that has and does command our interest. So you mention Slint or related present-day ilk like GSYBE! and it strikes a chord. speaking of chord-striking, I'll have to track down some Codeine. never heard them before. just a humble opinion for the day. jb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:24:36 -0800 From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Papa M (was Slint) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of jonathan > richardson > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 7:34 AM > why, although I love this stuff, are we talking about this on the exotica > list? I find it interesting that so many of us on this list are > into it. Is > there some kind of connection??? is it an age thing (me being in my early > 30s) or is there an "exotic" connection somewhere. Well, this whole "post-rock" thread got started with GYBE, who are Morricone-like in parts, I'd say. Maybe that's why I've never really quite warmed up to GYBE. But I've never been able to put my finger on it. I do know, however, that "The Dead Flag Blues" off "f#a#oo" is a *magnificent* track. There's an edited version of the piece on a cheap Kranky compilation somewhere out there and even the shortened version is excellent. One can play Six Degrees of Dave Pajo pretty easily, as he seems to have played in (or guested with) a whole slew of folks (Slint, of course, and Tortoise, Stereolab, Will Oldham, etc.). Later, Ben np: bernhard gunter, "un peu de neige salie" (trying hard to hear it over the hum of the computer) http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:28:51 +0100 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Why Exotica? Ross Orr schrieb: > Alan wrote: > >The main reason I switched from [ X ] to easy listening was because the > >records were way cheaper and also way less predictable. > > That nails it! These are exactly the reasons I got into exotica. I got into it, because I liked it better than anything I had heard before. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 19:42:28 +0100 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) correction: "Fantastica" webcast: THURSDAY, not Tuesday "Fantastica" closes THURSDAY'S program schedule, and not Tuesday's as i wrote yesterday. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:00:54 -0600 From: Matthew Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Why Exotica? Moritz R wrote: > > I got into it, because I liked it better than anything I had heard before. The drinks were a lot better too. - -- Matt (still reeling from a weekend of experimenting with Beachbum Barry's Grog Log) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:11:57 -0800 From: "Brian Linds" Subject: Re: (exotica) Don Ralke and Bongos Here's my addition top the Don ralke catalogue. Introspection IV - Wierdos From The Uncommon World of Johnny Gunn With The OUtre Musical Sounds Of Don Ralke . Ken Nordineish coffee house tales. Musicians include. Milt Raskin/Shelly Mane/Marshall Cram/Plas Johnson/Buddy Collette/Ed Kusby/Howard Roberts/Larry Bunker. It's way cool!!! Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:29:37 +0000 From: dan hill Subject: (exotica) Re: Slint have you heard stuff by "the for carnation", featuring brian mcmahon out of slint? completely brilliant imho. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/3252/ cheers, d. - -- - ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ new reviews on motion [30.10.2000]: < nobody | keith tippett | susumu yokota | cristian vogel | keiji haino w/ greg cohen & joey baron | xen cuts | sun ra | quasimoto | pimmon > http://motion.state51.co.uk/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:18:04 -0800 (PST) From: chuck Subject: (exotica) jazz/easy listening I'm into easy listening because I've always been into easy listening and not realized it. When I was a little guy and my aunt gave me her album collection. Quiet Village stood out. So did Xavier Cugat's "Blen Blen Blen with the great Miguelito Valdez on vocals, and Big Band Swing, especially Lionel Hampton"s "Jivin the Vibes" and her Perez Prado album. Now it was easy to find Cugat & Prado, I thrifted them in the 1970's. Big band I bought my fill. Quiet Villiage was another story. I thought it was a fluke, until one day in the mid/late 1970s in a good record store I saw a Martin Denny section mixed with the rock artists. There I saw the "Exotic" album and admired the cover and thought there were 2 exotica records. I associated Denny with Pink Floyd's UmmaGumma back then. They both seemed Exotic. Then I had this Space album, "Journey To Infinity" with Dr Weiner Von Braun announcing "ROCKETS" Television commercials and tv show themes seemed like heavenly music to me so I bought the TVToon lps and thought I had it all. Then Com Ed came out, and Bar None released Esquivel and I punched in the words Space Age Bachelor Pad, got on the Exotica list and started thrifting and buying tons of cds and now I Cannot imagine life without easy listening/exotica. The easy listening genre for me is all things in 1970 record stores that wasn't listed under pop/rock, jazz, classical or country. When I finally got immerseded fully in easy listening/exotic I was jolted! The feeling a good moog album brings out was a new exprience. The Peter Thomas Orchestra wowed me. Now sounds amazed me. Italian sound tracks. Las Vegas Grind! This was and continues to be a more exciting and surprising genre of music (exotica with a small "e" ) than any I have experienced. Not that jazz isn't truly a breathtaking genre with Miles early 70 music, the fusion of Weather Report, modal. I had a jazz period still have maybe 400 lps/cds. I think I would have gotten into exotica sooner if I would have known it was there. I went through music back then with blinders on. I could argue that listening to exotica/easy listening is the most diversified variety of music ever imagined. In 1970 I still think that the easy listening/sound track sections of record stores were over 50 per cent of the store. Exotica with a small e now occupies over 50 per cent of my collection and that seems to make sense. My palette has been over whelmed with easy listening/exotica. There has just been so many new genres of easy listening and so many thrifts and new releases that my palette is numbed. I find easy listening much more engaging than modern soft pop. When I want to chill, I look for a modern soft pop band on Siesta or Marina. Recently I successfully chilled to "Moshi Moshi, Pop International Style" a rather new comp of various modern soft pop bands. I highly recommend this. I laughed when I finally saw "Hi Fidelity" this weekend and the store owner was chilling to Belle and Sebastian, who are a truely great soft pop experience for the jaded palette! Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck - --- alan zweig wrote: But like I said, it's been five years now in which this is > virtually all I've listened to. My palette must be clean by now. Maybe it's been cleaned down to the bone and there's nothing there for new music to stick to. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #829 *****************************