From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #891 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Tuesday, February 13 2001 Volume 02 : Number 891 In This Digest: (exotica) Lai=Air Re: (exotica) please allow me to introduce mice elf (exotica) HI MY NAME IS... Brad (exotica) Jack Costanzo Live Re: (exotica) Ali'i Boy Re: (exotica) Re: Hatten =?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=r din (exotica) album frames Re: (exotica) HI MY NAME IS... Brad Re: (exotica) Lai=Air Re: (exotica) top 10/best jazz rekkid (exotica) Night and the City (exotica) [obit] Buddy Tate Re: (exotica) top 10/best jazz rekkid Re: (exotica) Brussels Re: (exotica) Re: Hatten =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E4r?= din Re: (exotica) Ali'i (actually Nature Boi'i) Re: (exotica) Brussels (exotica) another answer to Alan Re: (exotica) Answer to alan Re: (exotica) Nature boy Re: (exotica) please allow me to introduce mice elf (exotica) Yet another intro - for the record Re: (exotica) HI MY NAME IS... Brad ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:04:41 From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Lai=Air >"Exotic Strings" records (by Percy Faith or Michel Legrand). >So does anyone know this compilation or these comps in general? Does >Mandalay exist or is it just some name chosen for this compilation? Is >there a whole CD by Mandalay out there? > I've only ever seen 12"s >And one more thing about neo-exotica. I just bought a Francis Lai record >that sounded exactly like Air. > >AZ When I saw them a few years ago they played the theme from 'Bilitis' a rather dodgy (underage) soft porn 1970s lesbiansploitation film which was scored by Lai. I think the theme itself is from a debussey song of one of the Pierre Louys 'Bilitis poems. So they're obviously fans. Rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:04:40 -0500 From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) please allow me to introduce mice elf >Now I live in the western Boston burbs (Waltham) and really enjoy catching >Seks Bomba, Astroslut, Electric Logs, >etc. around town. Com. Edison's last >cd release party at a great place in Chinatown with Electric Logs and > >Pineapple Hey! Another de-lurker from Massachusetts! Allright! As I mentioned only last week, live in Leominster. I’m working as a mechanical designer at a company that makes semiconductor inspection equipment. Slowly pursuing a mechanical engineering degree at U Mass Lowell. Carol and I we got 2 kids: Leandra 16, and Geneva almost 5. Carol likes some of this music, but I think she suspects I’ve joined some kind of cult. You are all going to hate it. But it was the Ultra Lounge series that got me into this stuff. And forced me to take the turntable out of mothballs. As I mentioned about a year ago, been listening to a lot of Jazz and “American songbook” for years (I’m a public radio junkie) and was surprised to find this “hidden genre”. “The Wild Cool and Swingin” comps were easy enough to digest and the others have been a great introduction to the rest. A few months later I discovered that as a student at U Mass Lowell I was eligible to join the “radio club”. Jumped at it. I was thinking of doing a strictly jazz or even a classical program. But hey! If you have seen the Ultra Lounge brochures that they stocked in those martini displays you will agree that this is “the coolest music on earth” and that’s what I was going to play! Mike, if your ever interested in getting back on the air as a guest or substitute host let me know. Waltham is less than ½ hour from Lowell. Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday’s 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/misc/wjul/wjul.html (On Real Audio) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:08:50 -0600 From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) HI MY NAME IS... Brad Well, since we have to stop at the door and put these silly name tags on .... My name is Brad, I am a list member since 1995, and like Alan, I got interested in this stuff when the price of CDs drove me into thrift stores, and I've never looked back. Like many fans, I owe a huge debt to V.Vale and the Re/Search crew for publishing "Incredibly Strange Music" and giving me a "to find" list to last the rest of my life. Although I can snobbishly say that I actually got "Incredibly Strange" because I started buying Re/Search because of their J.G. Ballard issue. I am 43, married, with three kids, currently living in San Antonio, Texas, but moving to Brussels this summer. I'm in the Air Force and have spent most of my time managing information technology operations and programs. I was lucky to spent a fair amount of time in the Bay Area, L.A., and Washington, DC, all of which are great places for collecting records. Many dollars spent at Rhino and Amoeba in Berzerkely. And much on eBay in the last 3 years. I'm maxing out now and just bought a CD recorder to start thinning out my LP stock. About 5 years ago I started what's now the Space Age Pop website (www.spaceagepop.com). I've been slowly but steadily adding to it, and now have something like 450 pages out there in cyberspace. A few books have heartily plagiarized it, but for the most part, I think it's safe to say it's the most comprehensive guide to space age pop musicians out there. It's a labor of love, not profit, although I have been interviewed twice by BBC2 (and paid for it!) for their series on "The Arrangers." I would post more here, but I really spend very little time online. I also subscribe to the Jazz West Coast list, mostly for posts by Milt Bernhart and other veteran jazz musicians who are still alive and kicking. I've been buying neo Exotica lately, thanks to CDNow's Cosmic Credit program. Just got Sushi 2000, which is almost as good as a tape a Japanese fan once sent me. If anyone can ever locate the CD by Tokyo's Coolest Combo, write me. Their cover of the James Bond theme is an organ-vibes combo killer. I listen to just about everything except more of the "Adult Contemporary"/"Today's Country" shit they pipe into my offices. I believe in the quote attributed to Charles Ives: "Sit up and use your ears like a man!" However, the main thing you'll hear in my home is N'Synch and the Baha Men. My kids view my hobby as a mental defect, something to apologize to their friends about ("My dad is ... um ... a record collector."). Latest spin: Mantovani's Greatest Hits--"Charmaine." The classic easy listening track we all know and love. I am starting my thinning out program with the slabs o' wax that are easiest to get rid of. So here goes a compilation of Manny, Kostelanetz, Melachrino, and a bunch of other stringers I bought a couple of years ago for an article I wrote in "Cool and Strange Music" magazine a while ago. Kudos to Lazlo Nibble for starting and keeping this list, and to all of you (particularly Nat/Alan, who feeds it on those days when the rest of us forget to) for contributing. This list has been the source of much pleasure and many purchases over the years. Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:12:57 -0600 From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Jack Costanzo Live Just pulled this off another list: No Bongos, But Lots of Rhythm from Costanzo" by Don Heckman Los Angeles Times, February 12, 2001 Jack Costanzo virtually introduced the bongo drums to American music in his performances with Nat "King" Cole, Peggy Lee and, especially, Stan Kenton (on such familiar items as "Peanut Vendor," "Cuban Carnival" and "Bongo Riff"). He can probably also be blamed for providing the instrument that became a fixture in pine-paneled rumpus rooms of the '50s, and no beatnik poetry reading of the period was complete without bongo accompaniment. In addition, he lists stars such as Marlon Brando, Tony Curtis and Gary Cooper among his bongo students. But when Costanzo came on stage at the Conga Room on Friday night, there were no bongos to be seen. Instead, he spent the entire set positioned behind a pair of conga drums. Nothing wrong with that musically, since Costanzo is a masterful percussionist with virtually any sort of hand drum. Still, it would have been nice to hear him take a turn on the smaller bongo drums, if only for the sake of nostalgia -- especially since the packed-house crowd clearly included a contingent of enthusiastic listeners who remembered him from his earlier years. To his credit, however, Costanzo has not remained in the past. The 10-piece band -- with three vocalists, including the high-spirited Marilu -- was a solid, hard-swinging unit. And the arrangements, many of which included Costanzo's imaginative rhythmic ideas, used the five horns as a massed harmonic unit, the resulting sounds comparable to a full jazz band. Combined with a surging rhythm section, the results were first-rate, a stunningly compatible blending of jazz horns with the infectious pulse of mambo, cha-cha and Latin funk. The combination was especially effective in an unusual rendering of Nat Adderley's classic soul jazz tune "Work Song," which began with a walking bass line, then quickly shifted into a jazz-tinged, foot-tapping, body-moving cha-cha. Most of the other numbers featured singer Marilu, whose effervescent physicality and rich, dark-timbred voice was at times reminiscent of a youthful Celia Cruz, but more often was simply a convincing vehicle for her own unique style. Especially impressive on the rhythmic numbers -- which were all enhanced by her nonstop dance movements -- she was less so on the ballad "Te Quiero, Te Quiero," a piece whose voltage was set far too low for this sort of dynamic evening. But that was the only relatively passive moment in an entertaining evening of Latin jazz driven by the sheer rhythmic excitement of Costanzo's drumming. "Mr. Bongo," as he once was called, still knows how to get the fires burning, no matter what he's playing. - --------- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Feb 2001 09:00:13 -0500 From: Eric Taub Subject: Re: (exotica) Ali'i Boy whoever has it now might be able to send us the list. It's at home, but can send it out tonite. Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:40:28 -0500 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Hatten =?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=r din > From: Matt Marchese > Organization: Arbeit Macht Muede > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:37:03 -0600 > To: exotica@xmission.com > Subject: (exotica) Re: Hatten =E4r din >=20 > I just happened across the English translation of that sublimely bizarre > Turkish hat dance Flash site that was posted here a couple of days ago: >=20 > http://www.geocities.com/pommesrotweissx/ >=20 > Wish I'd swallowed my beer BEFORE I read it! >=20 > Hatt-baby, hatt-baby!!! Glue piece of ham, cool! FANTASTIC! That's the best thing I've seen online since Lileks's Gallery o= f Regrettable Food. (http://www.lileks.com/institute/index.html) "Glue a piece of ham, cool" is unparalleled lyric writing. And the melody is terrific. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:27:16 -0500 From: "christie j. white" Subject: (exotica) album frames Sheeesh Chuck, that's alotta framed albums. I'd like to frame a few, where do you find the frames to do that? colleenintexas Colleen Hey Colleen, You can get them at any craft store usually. We have Michael's around here and in the South - not sure about TX. The best and cheapest way to do it though is get your glass cut at some out of the way, small, been there forever, old man running glass shop and get these clips that I've started using. It's a super way to show off the album and the frame doesn't cover any precious details. The clips can be found in a more specialty art supply store. Kiliki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:37:15 -0500 From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) HI MY NAME IS... Brad Brad Bigelow's message -- with the news that he was moving to Brussels this summer -- prompts me to ask: is there anything worth seeing in Brussels, exotica-wise? I'm off to the big B for a week, next Monday, with a fair amount of down time in what is ostensibly a "research trip." Any tips? Will Will Straw, Acting Chair, Department of Art History and Communications Studies McGill University 853 Sherbrooke Street W. Montreal, QC H3A 2T6 Canada Phone: (514) 398 7667 Fax: (514) 398 7247 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:56:53 +0100 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Lai=Air Robert McKenna schrieb: > I just bought a Francis Lai record > >that sounded exactly like Air. mind telling us the title? Mo - -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:14:26 -0500 From: Peter Gingerich Subject: Re: (exotica) top 10/best jazz rekkid I'm not too sure about exotica but the best jazz album handsdown is 'Kind of Blue' by Miles Davis..... pg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:30:40 -0500 From: Will Straw Subject: (exotica) Night and the City I can't help plugging a conference we're holding here in March, organized by two of the coolest grad students you'd ever meet. Here's the website: http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/programs/ahcs/nightandthecity.htm Will Will Straw, Acting Chair, Department of Art History and Communications Studies McGill University 853 Sherbrooke Street W. Montreal, QC H3A 2T6 Canada Phone: (514) 398 7667 Fax: (514) 398 7247 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:03:40 -0500 From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Buddy Tate http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Begieeheeeeeieehg] http://www.google.com/search?q=%22buddy+tate%22 February 13, 2001 Buddy Tate, Saxophonist for Basie's Band, Dies at 87 By BEN RATLIFF Buddy Tate, a broad-toned saxophonist who was a vital part of the widely admired Count Basie band of the 1940's, died on Saturday in Chandler, Ariz. He was 87. Mr. Tate was one of the great tenor saxophonists of the swing era, a superbly sophisticated ballad player influenced by both the diaphanous tone of Lester Young, his section mate in the Basie orchestra, and by the urgency and rhythmic muscularity of Coleman Hawkins. These traits could be heard in his first recorded solo with Basie's band, "Rock-a-Bye Basie" from 1939, which Mr. Tate felt was one of his best. His force and his flights into the horn's high registers identified the Texas tenor style, also exemplified by the saxophonists Arnett Cobb and Illinois Jacquet. Born George Holmes Tate in Sherman, Tex., he began his career in the late 1920's, playing around the Southwest with bands led by Terrence Holder, Andy Kirk and Nat Towles. He played briefly with Count Basie in 1934, then began his 10-year association with the Basie orchestra in 1939, after the death of its saxophonist, Herschel Evans. It was his work with Basie that most assured him his place in jazz history. In the 1950's Mr. Tate played with Lucky Millinder, Jimmy Rushing and Hot Lips Page, and in 1953 he began to lead his own band, which played a regular show at the Celebrity Club in New York for more than 20 years. He worked often in Europe, playing with Jim Galloway, Jay McShann and Al Grey. In the late 60's he recorded in France with the organist Milt Buckner and the drummer Wallace Bishop. He and the saxophonist Paul Quinichette were co-leaders of a band at New York's West End Cafe; Mr. Tate led another band with the drummer Bobby Rosengarden at the Rainbow Room in the 70's. Mr. Tate's career of playing and recording, mostly at selected festivals and with touring groups like the Statesmen of Jazz, lasted through the mid-90's, with a final appearance on "Conversin' With the Elders," the 1996 album by the young saxophonist James Carter. Mr. Tate lived in Massapequa, N.Y., until a few weeks ago, when he moved to Phoenix to live with his daughter Georgette. She survives him, along with another daughter, Josie, also of Phoenix, and many grandchildren. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:09:00 EST From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) top 10/best jazz rekkid In a message dated 2/14/2001 12:14:56 AM, peter.gingerich@wcom.com writes: << 'm not too sure about exotica but the best jazz album handsdown is 'Kind of Blue' by Miles Davis..... >> I agree completely. Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:30:45 -0600 From: Matthew Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Brussels Will Straw wrote: > > I'm off to the big B for a week, next Monday, with a fair > amount of down time in what is ostensibly a "research trip." > Any tips? Don't drink too much Kriek (sour lambic cherry beer). I got VERY sick on the stuff after drinking only two pintish-sized glasses the last time I was in Brussels. I haven't been drunk like that since I was in high school. As for Exotica, I didn't see any, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. - -- Matt Marchese mattm@sgi.com http://reality.sgi.com/mattm_americas/ Service Publications and Training, Silicon Graphics, Inc. "If there's no ear then there's no sound if there's no tree then there's no ground" -Imperial Teen *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:46:42 -0600 From: Matthew Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Hatten =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E4r?= din Clayton Black wrote: > > FANTASTIC! That's the best thing I've seen online since Lileks's Gallery of > Regrettable Food. (http://www.lileks.com/institute/index.html) > "Glue a piece of ham, cool" is unparalleled lyric writing. And the melody > is terrific. Ah, Lileks. I don't know how he manages to keep coming up with such fantastic stuff. I have yet to make my pilgrimage to the Gobbler Motel, but a good friend of mine stayed there many years ago. I don't even know if it's open anymore. I love Middle-eastern and Mediterranean pop. My favorites include a comp called "Yalla: Hitlist Egypt" and an American-Greek band, Annababoula that plays very trancey, rhythmic guitar/synth pop. There are some very good comps of Bollywood film music out there as well. The Bollywood lyrics are usually every bit as whacked as those of Hatten dr din, if not moreso. Whenever I go to big Persian and Indian restaurants, I always check out the music videos and movies they're playing. I recall seeing an Indian film which featured a woman swinging on a rope and shooting a machine gun while singing a song about milk! I've been looking for that one ever since. - -- Matt Marchese mattm@sgi.com http://reality.sgi.com/mattm_americas/ Service Publications and Training, Silicon Graphics, Inc. "If there's no ear then there's no sound if there's no tree then there's no ground" -Imperial Teen *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:07:05 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Ali'i (actually Nature Boi'i) >1. Jon Hassell 2. Nat King Cole 3. Mile Davis 4. John >Coltrane 5. Johnny Hartman. know of any others? There is a parody version of it by "Moms" Mabley, which I believe is on the "Moms" Mabley at the Playboy Club album. Before anyone scoffs too hard, don't forget she also had a hit with "Abraham, Martin and John". Stan Freberg recalled that his record, "John and Marsha" and Cole's "Nature Boy" were part of a very early marketing test for Capitol Records. They set up a listening room and each desk had bulbs. If the person sitting there liked the record, they squeezed the bulb. All of the records got little reaction, with the exception of Nature Boy and "John and Marsha" (he said that people almost broke the bulbs in response to the John and Marsha record!). Brian. Phillips. Brian? Phillips? BrianBrianBrianBrianBrianBrian...PHILLIPS # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:09:09 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Brussels Maybe there was a bad batch. After getting off the train from Amsterdam, several of these were the only thing between me and the satanic hangover than nagged me and nagged me and nagged me to strangle one of my traveling companions. Delightful hate-quelling stupor. Good beer. Man-serving beer. - --- Matthew Marchese wrote: > Don't drink too much Kriek (sour lambic cherry > beer). I got VERY sick on > the stuff after drinking only two pintish-sized > glasses the last time I > was in Brussels. I haven't been drunk like that > since I was in high > school. ===== "Grunt Big for Daddy." - - Thomas Paine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:38:19 -0000 From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) another answer to Alan since Alan has asked it would be rude not to respond: >Or James Brouwer, I believe you have the best soundtrack collection I've >ever come across. But that's only because you seem to want the same >soundtracks I want. You're not trying to get every kind of soundtrack. So >how would you characterize the kind of soundtrack you're looking for? ummm, by way of introductions. I'm 33, a veteran graduate student in Philosophy, and have no wife or kids. I'm originally from Vancouver, though I've been stuck in Ontario for years now. Besides records, I collect postcards, old photographs, stereocards, and thrift-store paintings. The compliment is appreciated, though I'm sure most people on this list have impressive collections, including yourself -- though I have yet to see it. I collect lots of different music but got into 60's/70's soundtracks for a) the nostalgia (glimpses into my TV-mediated childhood), b) the 'scenic'-ness (the way the some film-music converts your everyday surroundings into some filmic-narrative from the past) c) the artifice (the way some film music exaggerrates the era to which it belongs -- hippie/biker soundtracks are great for this) d) the music itself (just plain damn good in places) e) the look (I love a good OST sleeve) and f) the movies ( I'm a fan of old films, but usually not the ones I collect OSTs of). Some OSTs I like? Adventurers - Ray Brown Barbarella - Bob Crewe Bullitt - Lalo Schifrin Follow Me - Stu Phillips Girl From U.N.C.L.E. - Teddy Randazzo Stilletto - Sid Ramin Hanged Man - Alan Tew Hell's Angels on Wheels - Stu Phillips Truck Turner - Isaac Hayes Lady In Cement - Hugo Montenegro Angel's From Hell - Stu Phillips Still can't find "They Came to Rob Las Vegas" OST though.... anyhow, thanks again Alan. maybe i'll see you at the next toronto record show (they've changed venues and dates though) jb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:42:02 -0500 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Answer to alan At 10:48 PM 2/12/01 EST, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: >m.sandberg@telia.com writes: > ><< But if i was to choose some music for eternity, it would be the jungle > exotica. It is the only thing I just cant live without anymore. It is > my new home. Nature boy, quiet village, flamingo, poinciana. It is > what my dreams are made off. Its eternal. > > Magnus >> The post describing your musical journey Magnus was very interesting. It seems that you get into one kind of music at a time and stay there. So I guess I can imagine you choosing one genre to concentrate on. I can't argue with the idea of someone listening to nothing but jungle exotica but that's partly because listening to one genre exclusively is so unimaginable to me that I don't feel qualified to respond to someone who listens to music that way. So... as long as we understand that no one can really comment on someone else's taste... can I ask you this? What is it you like about it? Is it the music or is it the idea of it? Does it really remind you of exotic locales and "exotic people"? Or do you enjoy the irony of suburban white session musicians pretending they're crazed cannibals? Jungle exotica is such a bastard genre. They gathered a bunch of tunes with vaguely exotic themes or exotic words in the titles. Words like chinatown,caravan, persian, baubles, bangles, beads, cumana, cumbanchero. I like the way they knit together this little sub genre. I like the influences they sucked into their vortex. I like the irony of it. And I enjoy the arrangements and the instrumentation. But it doesn't really seem exotic or dark to me. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:53:16 -0500 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Nature boy At 08:08 PM 2/12/01 -0800, tikiman wrote: >Hey thanks Zweig-eist! love Pepper too and wasn't >aware of his version. Beck take available on CD? >someone else mentioned the Maxwell one as their fav... >so i'm on my way to check 'em all out. again, muchos >mahalos, FF You're on your way where? I doubt the Beck take is available on CD but never say never when it comes to obscure CD rereleases. And I know I said the Beck version was amazing but that doesn't mean it's so good. (So don't go back and listen again Magnus.) The entire Joe Beck record is kind of amazing to me but that doesn't mean I'm recommending it as a good record. You have to appreciate things the way I do to enjoy it. To me, most of the music we end up talking about here was an "experiment". And the experiment always involved new, surprising and inadvisable juxtaposition. Sometimes the experiment was done for purely commercial purposes. "I know you do polka records but McArthur Park is a big hit so you're going to cover it!" Sometimes the experiment was done for a combination of commercial and artistic purposes. The record company wanted the big band to play rock for commercial reasons. The big band leader came up with his own interpretation of his assignment. Often the big band leader was way way way out of his element but accidentally came up with something bordering on genius. Anyway, the Joe Beck record is a mixture of a bunch of things and as such, I think it's amazing. But if you don't get off on the inadvisable juxtapositions, you might find it a mediocre failed experiment. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:00:06 -0500 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) please allow me to introduce mice elf At 08:04 AM 2/13/01 -0500, Domenic Ciccone wrote: > >Hey! Another de-lurker from Massachusetts! Allright! I heard yesterday that the governor of Massachusetts is about to become the next ambassador to Canada. I appreciate this on a couple of levels. First of all I'm glad the USA considers us a separate country. Secondly it makes sense to me that the ambassador be from Massachusetts because there's a spiritual connection between that state and my country. It may just be that the University of Toronto looks so much like universities in Boston are supposed to look like and so almost every movie that takes place around Boston universities - such as The Paper Chase and Class of 44 - is shot in Toronto. But I also feel a kinship with the members of this list who are from Massachusetts. To me they're honorary Canadians. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:22:25 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Mastous Subject: (exotica) Yet another intro - for the record This will mark my first post the exotica list. I am 36 with some college. I live (like everyone else on this it seems) in Massechusetts. In Haverhill to be exact. I work in Wilmington for (gasp!) a defense contractor. I got into, and out of to some extent, exotica about 5 years ago after browsing my local used CD shop (in Northern California at the time) and found an interesting CD with a martini glass and a atom on the cover. The cover interested me and so I picked it, the first Esquivel compilation Space Age Batchelor Pad Music, up. That was the revelation. Since then I've compiled a small, a bout 30 CDs, 20 LPs, and they occupy a spot behind a bunch of other CDs of various genres. This isn't because I don't like exotica anymore, it's just that most of what I found had a few good moments and the rest was boring. I picked up a pre-release copy of P5's Happy End of the World and I was gone. I've been into Shibuya music ever since. My favorite at the moment would have to be Cornelius' Fantasma. What a trip! Musically speaking of course. But recently some of my purchases have drawn me back to the fringes of exotica. Perhaps I'll dig my Martin Denny Exotica CD out, dust it off and give it another listen. Or the Les Baxter CD that I can't remember the name of. I also have the Research Incredably Strange Musics CD, 4 Bond soundtracks and some others I don't remember. My musical tastes are very broad. I have long been a fan of ambient soundscapes (Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schultz the Orb) Rock (I'm partial to Styx, Kansas and Boston), pop (I've been a Barry Manilow fan from the start, I also must admit to a fondness for the Bee Gees) country (Ricky Skaggs, Waylen Jennings, Roger Miller) and oldies (Ed Ames, Buddy Grekko) Techno (Underworld), lots of eighties (YMO, Yello, Depeche Mode), and having spent half a year working in Asia I picked up some Ramadan music from Malyasia and some Filippino discs that I found forgettable. My most vivid exotica memory has to be the Tiki room at Disneyland. I do enjoy the Tiki atmosphere. I spent a week with my girlfriend on Boracay Island in the Philippines and it was a very plesant, relaxing esperience. I joined this list because I felt I might find some better suggestions of exotica samples than the ones I have. Outside of Esquivel I have found nothing that more than piques my curiousity. I hear a melody here, or a song there, and then a lot of forgettable songs. Also I have recently "discovered" a type of music called Enka (commenly called Japanese country) that I am looking for sources for. A search on the internet turned up nothing. I heard this type of music while watching the MASH movie. I found the soundtrack, but it doesn't have the actual songs, or any info on the singers. Does anyone have a line on where I can locate some of this music (that is in English)? Also someone recently mentioned Shirly Bassy. I know she is mostly known from having sung 3 Bond themes, but I am more inclined to remeber her for her work with Yello. It's really too bad about the demise of Combustable Edison. I remember hearing some of their music as backgroud to a dramatic reading on a KPFA program. I have a couple of their CD's. Anyway perhaps each of the memebers of the band will form a separate band and there'll be more to choose from in the future. Good luck to them in there future endevours. I really appreciate Brother Cleve for being instrumental in having brought Mr. Esquivel back to the spot light. I'll go back and lurk and learn some more. Dan Mastous __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:30:18 -0500 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) HI MY NAME IS... Brad At 07:08 AM 2/13/01 -0600, Brad Bigelow wrote: > > > I'm in the Air Force Wow. There goes another prejudice. About ten years ago - or it could have been more - I was in a used record store and there were a couple of cops there. I immediately assumed they were there to investigate some stolen record scam or maybe looking for illegal bootlegs. Then one said to the other "Should I get the Black Album or Lovesexy?" (I guess that dates it. When did Lovesexy come out?) In any case, I still haven't quite recovered from hearing a cop say "lovesexy". I definitely have a prejudice against policemen, some of which comes from an upbringing which taught me to question all authority and some of which comes from my experience driving a taxi for fifteen years at the mercy of cops who assumed every cab driver was a bootlegger or a pimp. (I wish!) But I'm no longer surprised when a cop likes Prince. Anyway I'm surprised that Brad, the creator of the spaceagepop website is in the Air Force. Not that folks in the air force don't like music or that they wouldn't like this kind of music. But they wouldn't be as cool as Brad. >I would post more here, but I really spend very little time online. I also >subscribe to the Jazz West Coast list, mostly for posts by Milt Bernhart >and other veteran jazz musicians who are still alive and kicking. What's that list like? Is Pete Rugolo on that list? I'm sort of on another list where one of the seminal musicians posts but that particular person bores me to tears. Still, I'd love to hear from those veteran jazzbos. > >Latest spin: Mantovani's Greatest Hits--"Charmaine." The classic easy >listening track we all know and love. I am starting my thinning out >program with the slabs o' wax that are easiest to get rid of. So here goes >a compilation of Manny, Kostelanetz, Melachrino, and a bunch of other >stringers I bought a couple of years ago for an article I wrote in "Cool >and Strange Music" magazine a while ago. It's funny you should say that because when I started making CDR's, I too began with the big string sections. I didn't really have any Mantovani but I certainly had Kostelanetz. The thing is, I not only think that Kostelanetz's later records are brilliant but as I made those CDR's, I started to believe that these were really some of my best records. I've been attracted to the more OVERTLY GROOVY records for the past few years and I probably always will be but there's something more "genuinely musical" about some of these beautifully arranged soft records. I do listen to the CDR's I made and I listen to those string things as much, if not more than the rest. Anyway it makes me smile to learn that you've crossed over into the CDRchiving territory but I warn you, very soon you're going to start wondering "Where do I stop?" In my case I was planning to divide my records into two categories: those I put on CDR and dump AND those I don't put on CDR and keep. But what happens is that I'm listening to the CDR's and not the records. So if I want to hear the supposedly better records, I start to wish I had them on CDR. But when I put them on CDR, I wonder why I'm keeping the records. And I wonder why I don't just decide to put ALL of them on CDR. Good luck. I'm listening to one of my five volumes of Mancini CDR's right now. This one contains my favorite cuts from five Mancini records which sort of went together : The Big Latin Band of, Mancini Generation, Symphonic Soul, Hanging out with and Cop Show Themes. It's hard to beat. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #891 *****************************