From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #945 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Thursday, March 29 2001 Volume 02 : Number 945 In This Digest: (exotica) Re: what does music do? Re: (exotica) [obits] catching up pt.3 Re: (exotica) what does music do? Re: (exotica) CD Rom Blanks Re: (exotica) The Golden Age (exotica) new Terry Riley Re: (exotica) re: shanghainese pops (exotica) [obit] John A. Alonzo RE: (exotica) The Golden Age (exotica) expectations of exoticness Re: (exotica) re: shanghainese pops Re: (exotica) musical nostalgia Re: (exotica) Re: what does music do? Re: (exotica) what does music do? Re: (exotica) Up with People Re: (exotica) Tipsy again! (exotica) Listening to Music (exotica) Harpsicord (exotica) The Planets (exotica) The Planets (exotica) The "right" recording Re: (exotica) Listening to Music (exotica) Up with People Down in the Dumps OOP Re: (exotica) Tipsy again! (exotica) thrifty fun (exotica) [hype] #20 ISSUE OF COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC MAGAZINE IS HERE! pt.1 (exotica) [hype] #20 Cool & Strange pt.2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:39:54 -0800 From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Re: what does music do? >Does anybody know anything about how music enters >your brain? > >AZ I think it goes into holes in your ears. Then it swirls around for a while, seeking the lowest point to exit out. Then, later, when you have a bowel movement, it comes out. It's very messy. I would avoid it. And then when you get older you might have to wear diapers. I don't think it's fair to compare classical with other music forms, refering to the earlier arguements. You just end up arguing emotional points. Classical is better than jazz because I like it more. Or, When you listen to classical music you feel deeper emotions. These are personal interpretations. I've felt emotions listening to Coltrane's Interstellar Space that I can't even describe. Same with Tod Dockstader. Same with works by Xenakis. For easy music I could say that I typically feel a sense of overwhelming calm and excitement at the same time, like I do with Sergio Mendes, which typifies a wide assortment of ideas and musical styles that I like in the whole easy music area. But I would imagine that I feel things with some albums that are not that different from the things some people feel when listening to, yawn, Mozart. (Fun to perform but not as fun to listen to, but that's just me.) Sound experience is all about those little hairs in your inner ear vibrating, right? So classical music typically has far more instruments making noise than, say, a jazz band. And exotica has more instruments typically than the average jazz band. And then ambient music or musique concrete has hardly any. Then does the arguement become something like one can enjoy ambient music only about a tenth as much as classical? And if you enjoy, say, ambient music more than classical, does that mean you have hearing loss (which I know I do from some ear operations)? And what if you don't like the new Tipsy as much as the first one? Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:09:18 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] catching up pt.3 I'm surprised that you didn't mention John Phillips... and noone else either. or did I miss a post? Mo - -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:09:41 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) what does music do? alan zweig schrieb: > > I know that it is sort of about the music. It's always partly about the music. > But if you're sitting in a club and a piece of music comes on and you go > "Ooh, this is Lush Life. Have you heard the Johnny Hartman/John Coltrane > version?", is that about appreciating the music more? > I'm not sure. I'm not sure either, but I think it's about communication among men. Women do it all the time, about everything, men need things like "music" or "football", to get it going. If you want to call in notorious theories about men being hunters and women collectively growing up children, you may come to simple explanations, perhaps too simple, I don't know. But since men had to communicate silently during the hunt, they had time to analyze what they saw and heard later, sitting around the fire. If they had recordings of what they heard, they would already almost be like you and me. In painting it probably was like that: the first paintings were portraits of hunting preys performed with ashes. This sounds really like Flintstone theory, but you demanded it, when you wrote: > Anyway I'm thinking about a lot of very basic questions. > Mo - -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:12:10 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) CD Rom Blanks bigshot schrieb: > > If you'd like me to provide you with links to webpages with scientific > research on this, I'd be happy to look them up. > That's nice, thank you, although I don't think I have a lot of time to go much deeper into this. Besides the endless hours I spend with the exotica list, I have to - last not least - get some work done ;-) Actually my brand of CDRs work really fine with my burner now and as long as this's the case, I'm happy. It's strange though that my usual daily computer news servers never had a story about burning problems. I guess the scientists may not have come to a conclusion about it themselves - or they don't know the sources that you know. Mo - -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:09:35 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) The Golden Age "m.ace" schrieb: > > Thrift-store records... I should try posting about them sometime. > :-) which would be a real novelty in the exotica list... Mo - -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:12:25 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) new Terry Riley Anyone into Terry Riley? I read, he's got a new album out and was just wondering, how it is. Mo - -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:09:32 +0900 From: Taro HOSHIJIMA Subject: Re: (exotica) re: shanghainese pops On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:56:33 +0800 "William" wrote: > the singers english name is "grace chang" and she supposedly was in a bunch > of hk musicals. but what i really need is her chinese name preferably > written in chinese. anyone out there know? the singer on the comp i just got > is named "ge lan" unless that is the name of the group. i definately want > more! maybe its the same person. The SAME person. See: http://www.gracechang.com/ Sorry if you can't read Chinese :) I've recently got the Japanese re-compilation cd of HK-Pathe reissue series we found at the basement of Sony building. It was still there :) "In the Mood for Love" starts showing here this weekend. I got an advance ticket :) Zai Jian, Taro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:46:37 -0500 From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] John A. Alonzo March 29, 2001 http://allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=B79421 http://us.imdb.com/Name?Alonzo,+John+A. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22John+A.+Alonzo%22&btnG=Google+Search John A. Alonzo, Cinematographer, Dies at 66 John A. Alonzo, a Hollywood cinematographer, died on March 13 in Los Angeles. He was 66. Mr. Alonzo was nominated for an Academy Award for his work on Roman Polanski's 1974 murder mystery, "Chinatown," which starred Jack Nicholson and Faye Dunaway. His other credits included "Harold and Maude," "Norma Rae," "Black Sunday," "The Bad News Bears", "Vanishing Point" and "Star Trek: Generations". He also contributed special material to "Close Encounters of the Third Kind." One of his early short subjects, "The Legend of Jimmy Blue Eyes," also received an Oscar nomination. Born in Dallas, Mr. Alonzo grew up in Guadalajara, Mexico, and Los Angeles. He started working in television and then tried his hand at acting, playing bit parts in several films including "The Magnificent Seven." He also photographed a television series for National Geographic, and directed the television films "Belle Starr," with Elizabeth Montgomery as the Western outlaw, and "Blinded by the Light," about a religious cult, with Kristy McNichol. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:11:34 -0500 From: "m.ace" Subject: RE: (exotica) The Golden Age >Mikac speak truth. Mikac know good dance pop. Unfortunately, Mikac is off on an extended adventure down the dormant volcano of Mount Xabat, chasing legends of a lost subterranean city of jade and crystal, with towers of finely wrought vinyl and the reputed hiding place of the single pressing of the unknown, never-heard Les Baxter/Ornette Coleman collaboration, "This Is Our Ritual Of The Free" -- of which it is said that there is no telling what may happen to the universe if a needle should ever glide into the inescapable maelstrom of its entry groove. One only hopes to someday find Mikac's account in a battered and yellowed paperback book on a dusty thrift-store shelf. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:35:16 -0500 From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) expectations of exoticness I found the following excerpt a few days ago while searching the web, and thought it applied to the world of exotica music -- of how the final importance was matching the viewers/listeners expectations of the exotic, rather than showing the world in all its nitty-gritty reality. - ------------------------------ A friend of mine who recently returned from Africa told me about the battles and and alliances in the bush, where multiple film crews from different networks and natural history programs were attempting to get shots of the same animal without getting each other in the shot. The noise and the lights and the generators transformed the wild into something else, but the product would ultimately be cut and dubbed to reflect the idealised image of 'nature' that audiences demanded - ----------------------------- Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:59:36 +0100 From: edjunkita Subject: Re: (exotica) re: shanghainese pops Taro HOSHIJIMA wrote: > See: > > http://www.gracechang.com/ > > Sorry if you can't read Chinese :) Nice record covers, but I miss audio examples. Anyone know any good (=oldies) Asian music sites that have some? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:08:08 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) musical nostalgia In a message dated 3/29/1 1:52:59 PM, clayton.black@washcoll.edu wrote: >I don't really think I'd want to go back >(certainly not to the 70s, which, I agree with bigshot, was a time of >wretched, albeit humorous in retrospect, aesthetics). But remember, the Soul-Funk-Disco sounds were at their analogue besssst then. Black Music, particularly the LP really peaked in creativity at that time. The lushness, the hard-driven funk, the rare groove, the beauty of the group ballad, the use of bass as a clearer aural driving force behind the music, have an everlasting sound that got kicked to the curb by the digital and synth era of the 8T's. I think FPM is onto something when he re-introduces the disco sound in a new context. JB/proud discophile # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:09:37 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: what does music do? In a message dated 3/29/1 3:40:56 PM, fcobalt@lycos.com wrote: >I think it goes into holes in your ears. Then it swirls around for a while, seeking >the lowest point to exit out. Then, later, when you have a bowel movement, it comes >out. It's very messy. I would avoid it. And then when you get older you might have >to wear diapers. That would "Depend" on the listener, wouldn't it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:13:23 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) what does music do? In a message dated 3/29/1 3:43:53 PM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: >I'm not sure either, but I think it's about communication among men. Women do it >all the time, about everything, men need things like "music" or "football", to >get it going. Men, according to the Mrs., seek to quantify an otherwise unquantifiable experience called life by measuring, statistifying, and adding up the innumerable factors to explain the otherwise inexplicable. Women, on the other hand, according to the Mrs., embrace the harmonic universality of Earthly Existence and disdain the numbers game...This my friends is the difference between the sexes (according to the Mrs.)..JB/its 1969 ok, all across the USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:52:38 -0700 From: kendoll Subject: Re: (exotica) Up with People i bought a record this week by a group similar to Up With People called The Young Americans ("a non profit corporation dedicated to promoting understanding and good will through youth and music"). the record was produced and arranged by Anita Kerr. anyone familiar with this group? the liner notes refer to a feature film about the group, also called"Young Americans" which hadn't been released yet. anyone seen this film? mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:02:39 EST From: Tipsydave@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Tipsy again! In a message dated 3/29/01 7:00:57 AM, nminer@jhmi.edu writes: << Okay, I haven't gotten the new CD yet - it's on the way.........this am I was listening to one of my home-made comps. and on comes Earl Grant doing "My Foolish Heart" from his Ebb Tide LP. Instantly I recognized the opening bars as being included in a Tipsy song. Now, I can't tell you *which* song it's from because that album has the amazing ability to be almost brand-spanking new every time I listen to it (that is, the "tune" doesn't stick in my head 'cause there's so much going on!!) - but it's there, and it sounds amazingly "modern," like it was created on a keyboard in the rec. studio. >> Amusingly enough, the same couple bars show up on Stock, Hausen & Walkman's "Organ Transplants", recorded about the same time as "Trip Tease". Weird, huh? - -dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:17:09 -0800 From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Listening to Music exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:34:56 -0500 >From: alan zweig >Subject: (exotica) what does music do? > >At the same time I was thinking about bigshot's "advice" that I start to >listen to classical music. >It's not that I don't like it. I like it fine when I hear it. I just >don't feel the ambition to start down another musical tributary at this >point. I can understand that. I've always limited myself to really seriously exploring no more than two or three types of music at a time. I still have some kinds of music that I am deliberately saving for the future when I have the time to focus on them. >The other thing I was thinking about was bigshot's contention that he's >"educated" himself about these things. Mostly I was thinking about him >saying that IF you educate yourself, you will appreciate more. >I suppose that's true. >But are you appreciating something MORE or just in a different way? Well, a good example I found in my particular explorations was Fats Waller. He and Cab Calloway were my introduction to Jazz. I read a book on him and immersed myself in his recordings and I discovered that he was able to make even the crummiest song sing. In the book I read on him, it said that he studied classical music and was inspired in many of his own compositions by Bach. So I went out and found some recordings of the pieces that the book mentioned and it was like a lightbulb turned on. All of a sudden I could hear Bach in Waller's piano playing. >One of the "themes" of my film was that record collecting is NOT >about the music. Huh? It's all about the music, isn't it? >It seems to me that classical music is a certain kind of music. That >sounds self evident except that some people who listen exclusively to >classical music say that they can get everything they need to get out of >that one kind of music. >And I want to say "I don't think you can get from classical music what I >get from Hank Williams. Or the American Music Club. Or Sarah Vaughn. That's true. What people mean when they say that classical music is all they need is that classical music covers every possible human emotion from angry to happy to wistful to comic... and all gradations between. Classical music also runs the gamut from extremely complex musical structures to very simple ones. >But all this begs the question of what you get from music. How do you get >what you get? Does the music do it? Or is it your association with the >music? >Does anybody know anything about how music enters your brain? That is a really good question, and it's one I've wondered about too. Music seems to be some sort of primal language that is hard wired into us. We are born understanding what music tells us on a non-verbal level. The vocabulary of this primal language can be exppanded by listening and thinking about what you hear. It can also open up dramatically like blinders coming off in a flash. It sure is weird. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:17:16 -0800 From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Harpsicord exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:11:42 -0500 >From: Clayton Black >Subject: Re: (exotica) Classical music and Alan's dilemma..... > >Nate can't stand harpsichord, and it's one >of my favorite elements of some of Enoch Light's albums (and I love Dick >Hyman's "Happening!" album). My favorite use of it is in Mancini's version >of the Playboy theme, and if I'm not mistaken there are some particularly >sweet moments in the Breakfast at Tiffany's soundtrack with harpsichord >solos My favorite harpsicord is the jazzy one behind Rosemary Cloony in "Come Onna My House". I also can't think of Bach's Art of the Fugue without thinking of the harpsicord. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:17:14 -0800 From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) The Planets exotica-digest wrote: >Let me just recommend ONE piece of classical music that is VERY VERY good: >Holst - The Planets. Conductors and orchestras make a big difference. I've heard six or eight versions of The Planets, and the best I've heard is Herbert von Karajan and the Berlin Philharmonic from the early days of digital recording. >This is the only thing that Holst ever did that was really *GREAT* - and = >it is GREAT. =20 By the way, Holst did a lot of great stuff. There is a Naxos bargain CD with Beni Mora that I would recommend highly. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:17:18 -0800 From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) The Planets exotica-digest wrote: >Luckily, the best version of The Planets is available on a budget release. = > The cover is like the "Extra Extra" headline of a major newspaper. = That is Columbia's Budget line. My guess is you are thinking of Szell and the Cleveland Orchestra. That is a very good version. The sound is a bit dated though. The Planets benefits from really good sound. By the way, if you listen to the Planets you won't have to get any of John Williams's soundtracks. He stole it all from Holst. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:17:20 -0800 From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) The "right" recording exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:21:56 -0500 >From: wlt4@mindspring.com >Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Classical music and Alan's dilemma..... > >Don't worry too much about >whether you're getting the "right" recordings because there aren't any: >classical buffs will argue about these for ever (opera fans are the worst) >and too much of that is just trivial. Actually, there are a lot of REALLY bad recordings out there. His friend's advice is pretty true. Fortunately, quality of performance is usually inversely related to price. The Naxos label has lots of great music for under $7, and the other labels have "twofers" and budget lines that re-release LP era recordings that sound better than current releases. The Penguin Guide is a good place to start. Most big record stores have it. Just use it while you're browsing in the store. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:34:22 -0500 From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Listening to Music From: "bigshot" > > >One of the "themes" of my film was that record collecting is NOT > >about the music. > > Huh? It's all about the music, isn't it? It should be all about the music, and it probably is for most Exotica listmembers, but if you see Alan's film, you'll understand what he's saying. He interviews collectors who are way past the stage of "normal", and into accumulating for various reasons. It's a great film, by the way! (no, he didn't pay me to say that...) cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:22:04 -0800 From: "jim gerwitz" Subject: (exotica) Up with People Down in the Dumps OOP Up With People recently decided to hang it up after 35 years. Money problems, what else. They are no longer accepting applications for students to join their touring groups (just when i needed a career change) and you only have until April 6th to order from their catalog of CD's, cassettes and sealed LP's. Free CD with each purchase. Hey, this stuff will soon be Out of Print, big bucks on fleabay! Here's their site where you can browse and read the sad news: http://www.upwithpeople.org/content/catalog/merchandise_rec.htm Owner of the obligatory UWP twenty-five cent LP, Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:49:59 EST From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Tipsy again! In a message dated 3/29/01 5:03:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, Tipsydave@aol.com writes: << Amusingly enough, the same couple bars show up on Stock, Hausen & Walkman's "Organ Transplants", recorded about the same time as "Trip Tease". Weird, huh? -dave >> Like they say, Great minds think alike! :) - -DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:16:07 -0500 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) thrifty fun Aah, I finally had a productive trip to the thrift-store today. Not dead yet. I think I'll dole out the reports out one by one over time -- we could use more posts about thrift-store records, no? I'll just note the two 7-inchers right now. They aren't very exotic, but I likes 'em. The Red Norvo Trio - "Dancing On The Ceiling, Vol. 2" - a 4 song 45-rpm EP on Decca, 1954. A tasty combination of vibes (Red Norvo), upright bass (Red Mitchell) and guitar (Tal Farlow "alternating with Jim Raney" (what, they couldn't keep the lineup stable for a 4 song session?)). "Good Bait", "Strike Up the Band", "The Spider's Web" and "Tenderly". Low-key 50s jazz, nothing revolutionary. In a small package like this, it's like a piece of candy. Back cover has a bizarre graphic of stylized vibe mallets, with Norvo's decapitated head serving as the mallet head on some of the sticks. The Mad Lads - "Whatever Hurts You" b/w "No Time Is Better Than Right Now" - - on Volt Records (as in Stax/Volt), from the late 60s. A-side is a mid-tempo ballad with plenty of harmonies (doo-wop meets Memphis soul?), B-side is more up-tempo, maybe a bit like a Sam & Dave number. Produced by Allen Jones & Al Jackson, Jr. (MG's drummer/Stax regular). I'm sure our soul specialist, Jimmy, can fill in the details. - --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:09:29 -0500 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [hype] #20 ISSUE OF COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC MAGAZINE IS HERE! pt.1 #20 ISSUE OF COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC MAGAZINE IS HERE! OUR NEWEST ISSUE OF 64 PAGES OF MUSICAL COOLNESS IS OUT! WITH 8 PAGES OF=20 BLAZING COLOR, IT'S ANOTHER SHARP LOOKING ISSUE!=20 COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC= MAGAZINE Our newest issue is packed with new, informative articles on the coolest and= =20 strangest music you never thought you'd hear about! It features a 4-color=20 cover, lots of high-quality photos, tons of new wacky and weird CD reviews,= =20 and it's more fun than using your Grandma's Jim Nabors albums for=20 skeet-shootin'! =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2 The new issue features a cover store on BILLY MAY: A true legend, BILLY MAY has worked with practically ALL the major recording= =20 stars of the classic recording days. Can you say Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis,= =20 Jr., Peggy Lee, The Four Freshmen, Nancy Wilson, Ella Fitzgerald, Stan=20 Freberg, Nat King Cole?....the staggering list just goes on an on. And= that's=20 not to mention his notable stints playing trumpet in the original Glenn=20 Miller Orchestra and arranging for Charlie Barnett, Alvino Rey and countless= =20 others.=20 Mr. May chats at length about his remarkable career, and he freely tells=20 about his life and career during Capitol Records' formative years. It's a=20 real delight to feature writer Jim Minnick's exclusive interview with Billy= =20 May-our cover man for this issue!=20 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80 FLORENCE FOSTER JENKINS Like Mrs. Miller, FLORENCE FOSTER JENKINS hold a real special place in our= =20 cool and strange hearts. After all, the portly society lady was well-known= in=20 music circles for her vocalizing of classical arias. Well, not because of= her=20 talent, though. The fact is that Madame Jenkins could not sing in pitch at= =20 all! She was just delusional enough to believe that she was immensely=20 talented! When people jeered at her recitals, Jenkins would dismiss them as= =20 "hooligans," and go right on with her painful singing!=20 Thanks to RCA Records, her lone album is still in print, and has been since= =20 1962! The talented Wilhelm Murg tells the story of this unique lady, with= his=20 in-depth profile of her, using interviews from Madame Jenkins' friend and=20 personal accompanist, Mr. Cosme McMoon. If you haven't heard her "music,"=20 you're in for a treat, and if you haven't read this article on a=20 rarely-discussed singer, you're missing out!=20 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2= =E2=80=A2=E2 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2= =E2=80=A2=E2 LYNN CAREY INTERVIEW=20 The name LYNN CAREY may not ring a bell, but she definitely has a place in= =20 collector's hearts, if only for the famous '70s record cover showing her=20 breast-feeding a lion cub on her Mama Lion album! =A0But that's only a brief= =20 moment in the long career of the talented (and gorgeous) Ms. Carey, who has= =20 recorded many albums with various rock groups and by herself, as well as=20 appearing in films (LORD LOVE A DUCK,) modeling in Penthouse magazine, and= =20 singing in the legendary Russ Meyer flick BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE DOLLS.=20 Descended from Hollywood royalty (her dad was actor Montgomery Carey,) Lynn= =20 is one of the most fascinating people we've met in a long time, and her=20 stories of working with many famous celebrities, and her own solo career are= =20 a highlight of this issue. Aaron Milenski does the honors in interviewing= Ms.=20 Carey, and he asks all the right questions. Check it out in this issue. =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 JONATHAN RICHMAN=20 We've had a lot of requests over the years for an article on JONATHAN=20 RICHMAN, and writer David Gofstein makes a lot of people happy with this=20 issue's profile of the eccentric singer/songwriter. He's never become a=20 household name, but Richman has some of his biggest success as of late, with= =20 a high profile appearance in the hit film THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT MARY.=20 Coming out of the punk rock explosion of the '70s, Richman had minor hits=20 with songs like "Roadrunner," and "Pablo Picasso," but his live shows have= =20 always been where he's shone the brightest, and he continues to tour today.= =20 This issue's article on Jonathan Richman is long-deserved and may just=20 make you want to check out his music, if you're not a fan already....=20 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 BUILD YOUR OWN FAKE SOUNDTRACK=20 If you've ever wanted to score your own film soundtrack, then here's your= big=20 chance! No, you don't need a degree in music, just a nice selection of=20 records in your collection and a little imagination. Mark John Astolfi has= =20 been creating his own "Fake Soundtracks" for years, and in this article he= =20 shows you how you can do it, too!=20 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2= =E2=80 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2= =E2 New Artist Profile: TWANG BANG=20 Every once in a while, a CD that shows up at our offices really jumps out= and=20 grabs us, and that was the case when we heard the latest CD from TWANG BANG.= =20 We knew we had to find out about these wacky singer/songwriters, who play a= =20 wild mix of eclectic new wave/psycho-billy with touches of country and folk= =20 and jazz thrown in, too! Their music is hard to describe, and that makes it= =20 better for us, because they definitely stand out of the bunch with their=20 witty, catchy and remarkable tunes about girlfriends, bombs and other=20 unlikely subjects.=20 With just a guitar and scaled-down drumset, Itzi and Redd pump out=20 hi-velocity, vitamin-enriched original tunes that don't fit into any radio= =20 format (that we've heard of,) but that's what makes them cool and strange!= =20 Rich Wilhelm does a great job of describing their unique music and snags=20 some great tidbits of information from the duo.=20 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2= =E2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:10:18 -0500 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [hype] #20 Cool & Strange pt.2 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2= =E2 THE ED KAZ KOLUMN=A0 Leave it to our regular columnist ED KAZ to point out a few of the more=20 jaw-droppingly comical records in his personal collection, and it's always a= =20 gas to laugh along. Maybe the Richard Kimble album on the left was never=20 meant to be laughed at, but I'm sure even ol' Dick would have to chuckle at= =20 seeing his cummerbund and leisure suit on the cover of this lounge gem.=20 Always a high spot of each issue, Ed tickles the record collector's=20 collective funny bone with his commentary in this issue.=20 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 MICKEY KATZ=20 Writer Skip Heller has been asking to do a piece on MICKEY KATZ for some=20 time, and we're glad we finally let him! Katz' music is definitely=20 one-of-a-kind--really, how many funny klezmer clarinetist/parodyists can you= =20 name? A long-time artist for Capitol Records, Katz had a long career with=20 Jewish-dialect parodies of pop hits like "Davey Crockett" and "That's Amore'= =20 " (That's A-Morris.")=20 We also learn of his tenure with Spike Jones, performing on Jones' hits such= =20 as "Cocktails for Two" and "Hawaiian War Chant," but Katz had his eye on his= =20 own brand of funny songs, and blossomed into a successful act in the=20 mid-'50s. This scholarly profile makes interesting reading, as we think=20 you'll agree. =20 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2= =E2=80 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2= =E2=80 SERGIO MENDES What can you say about a man that single-handedly fused his native Brazilian= =20 bossa nova with pop and became the most successful Brazilian artist of all= =20 time? The brilliant pianist/arranger SERGIO MENDES ingeniously crafted Top= 10=20 hits out of already-hit-songs by artists like the Beatles "Fool On The= Hill,"=20 Simon and Garfunkle "Scarborough Faire," and Burt Bacharach "The Look of=20 Love," as well as recording many Brazilian tunes that have since become=20 standards.=20 This is a long-overdue profile of an overlooked pioneer who took theball= from=20 people like Gilberto and Jobim and ran all the way to the top of the charts= =20 with it. Writer Curtis Cottrell does a fine job of distilling Mendes' career= =20 with his various groups (Brasil '66, Brasil '77, etc.) and this piece may=20 have you reaching for those records of his from the back recesses of your=20 collection. They're definitely work many more plays.=20 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2= =E2 SAN FRANCISCO RECORD STORES=20 One of our nations favorite cities to vacation is also a great place to pick= =20 up great records, and Giancarlo Davis takes us on a tour of his favorite=20 stops in THE RECORD STORES OF SAN FRANCISCO. Save this article for your next= =20 trip through the Golden Gate and use this article for handy reference.=20 =A0=20 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 LATIN LP COVERS CENTERFOLD=20 This issue's color Centerfold comes to us through the courtesy of LATIN=20 RECORD collector Don Charles, and it's fun to look at these beautiful color= =20 reproductions from the golden days of the long-playing record, when covers= =20 were BIG and were real pieces of art. =A0 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2 =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2= =80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80= =A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2 Tie them all together with lots more loads o' fun stuff than we dare= mention,=20 and you'll find a very cool Issue #20 of So get on board! It's gonna be a=20 cool ride through the wild, wacky and sometimes tacky world of records!=20 COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE is available at most Borders Books, Tower= =20 Records and Tower Books stores, and we are also in hundreds of newsstands= and=20 independent bookstores around the U.S., so take a look! If you have trouble= =20 locating COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE locally, you can order issues by= =20 mail:=20 MOST OF OUR BACK ISSUES ARE SOLD OUT, except Issues #10-#19. Even those are= =20 only available in limited quantities, so hurry! Our earlier issues won't be= =20 reprinted, either, we're sorry to say.=20 Residents of the USA, Mexico and Canada can purchase current SINGLE issues= of=20 Issue #20 for $3.95 + $1 postage. 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