From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #964 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Friday, April 27 2001 Volume 02 : Number 964 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries RE: (exotica) soft pop tributaries Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered (exotica) Graeme Revell - The Insect Musicians Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered Subject: (exotica) Cartridges Re: (exotica) Graeme Revell - The Insect Musicians Re: (exotica) Ironic Enjoyment (exotica) organs and vocal suggestions Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries Re: (exotica) organs and vocal suggestions (exotica) Hyakugojyuuichi!! Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names Re: (exotica) Graeme Revell - The Insect Musicians (exotica) Come Love Re: (exotica) Graeme Revell - The Insect Musicians (exotica) Re: a new subgenre discovered (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names Re: (exotica) Hyakugojyuuichi!! Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries Re: (exotica) Hyakugojyuuichi!! Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names Re: (exotica) Hyakugojyuuichi!! Re: (exotica) Hyakugojyuuichi!! (exotica) [obit] Al Hibbler ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:25:44 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries At 11:32 AM 4/26/01 -0700, chuck wrote: > For me Harpers Bizarre when they are not >being Wnchester Cathedrally are as good as it gets in the sunshine >pop or psychedlic pop vein, I should read all the posts before I start replying. I just said the same thing essentially except I namechecked Rudy Vallee. Great minds Eh tu chuck AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:45:53 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries In a message dated 4/26/1 5:34:46 PM, bvergara@sfsu.edu wrote: >Did the Strawberry Alarm Clock have seventies hair? No but they went barefoot in baltimore long before kelso's earth shoes were in vogue # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:49:57 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries At 06:04 PM 4/26/01 EDT, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > >>By the way, how is that Ultimate Spinach? > >I think they suck, but I'm from Boston where they were part of the 1967 Great >Rock And Roll Swindle AKA "The Bosstown Sound". Well there's sucking and sucking. As far as Bosstown Sound goes, I think Ultimate Spinach is head and shoulders above say The Beacon Street Union even though "The Clown Died at Marvin Gardens" is a semi-classic and I bet I can still make my "little brother" laugh by playing that way-ahead-of-its-time spoken word piece "May I light your cigarette". I have two Ultimate Spinach records and if you like this kind of light psychedelic pop a la Strawberry Alarm Clock (whose first record I think is fab) then you'll definitely like them. So far I think the "Behold and See" record is better than the self-titled one I just bought. In a surprisingly similar vein, at this moment I am grooving to another new purchase. "The Electric Jackie and Roy - Grass". It's Jackie and Roy but trying even harder to be hip. Hippy hip, not just jazzy hip like usual. If the rest is like this first cut, this could be a hidden gem. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:01:05 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: RE: (exotica) soft pop tributaries At 03:40 PM 4/26/01 -0700, Benito Vergara wrote: > >For instance, many Filipinos still know, by heart, the lyrics to >songs by America. And Bread. And Daniel Boone's "Beautiful Sunday." And >Friend and Lover's "Reach Out Of The Darkness." And the Bells' "Stay >Awhile." And Spiral Staircase's "More Today than Yesterday," one of my >favorite songs of all time. But perhaps these aren't soft pop anymore... I know what you mean by "not..anymore". It does feel like anything we knew back in the day really wasn't soft pop and only now are we discovering the real thing. I would say that the Spiral Staircase and the Bells and even Bread all qualify as soft pop. I don't particularly like that song by the Bells but I had another record by them with a couple of really cool tunes. The Friends and Lovers, I guess that would be soft pop too. It's soft of like the Fifth Dimension. Some of their more famous tunes almost remind me of very light soul. Like the Stylistics. (And that's not just because their skin tone made them resemble black people.) But if you hear them do a less familiar but great tune like "Pattern People", then you know that they were basically a soft pop band. The one I would take issue with is America. That example demonstrates another trap for those of us searching for soft pop on the basis of the "look" of the band. Sometimes it ends up being folk rock. That's sort of what I meant by saying you have to look at their hair. At one time I was a huge fan of folk rock. And I know that my present taste is obviously influenced by folk rock. But there is a huge difference between soft pop and folk rock. (MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THAT!!!!!) az # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:12:11 From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries > >Who wrote "Come Love" ? > >Was it Van Dyke Parks or another of those Wonoker Warner Brothers >soft pop West Coast guys? For me Harpers Bizarre when they are not According to "Feelin' Groovy"'s record label, "Come Love" was a product of the Marks-Bergman-Keith songwriting team, whoever they were. It was their only appearance on an album comprised of songs penned by Randy Newman, Van Dyke Parks, and Leon Russell, among others. feelin' groggy, Dan - ------------------------------------------------------------ Hear! "Dial-ated Pupils" -- every Saturday 4-6 pm CST exclusively at www.radio1austin.com. I will lead you safely through the perilous dark jungles of Austin's scratchiest record collection. Exotic jazz. Obscure Latin, Afro, and Eastern grooves. Easy listening arcana. Bring your bug spray. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:17:56 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries AZ wrote: >Occasionally I come across something that I actually heard back in the day. > The Association, the Fifth Dimension, the Cowsills. (And btw, the >Cowsills are really quite good across three or four records. They may have >inspired the Partridges but they are the real thing.) I have "The Cowsills In Concert" -- it opens with a studio cover of "Hair" and the rest seems to be genuine live material. Side two gets sort of heavy with tunes like "Sunshine Of Your Love" -- I was hoping they would be combining that with their harmony vocals, but they did it pretty much like the original, just the boys singing rockstar leadsinger style. It's kind of like on side 2 someone said, "Just let the boys go, they'll get it out of their system." The cover has photos of their other albums (at that point). What is "Captain Sad and his Ship Of Fools" like? Odd cover and odd title. Intriguing. It also looks like the cover photo on "The Cowsills" served as inspiration for the cover photo of The Replacements "Let It Be". Now there's a name I never expected to see on Exoticalist. And least of all me typing it. >But I think that in the future I will send all my long record buying rants >there. Nooooooo! m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:27:23 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered >Okay who has one to add to my collection of records featuring nothing but >compositions by Gilbert O'Sullivan? >I have two. One by Roy Budd and one by Big Jim Sullivan. >(Sullivan plays O'Sullivan). >Big Jim... well for years I've looked for one of his records. I remember >him well from the Tom Jones show. The one longhair in the band. Big Jim Sullivan was a busy 60s session player in Britain. Sort of the Tommy Tedesco of the scene? Before he got some other projects going, a certain other session player, Mr. Page, was known as Little Jim. He usually wound up on the rhythm guitar part. Anyway, that's the stories that I've heard. - --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:37:55 -0400 From: Subject: (exotica) Graeme Revell - The Insect Musicians I've been eagerly awaiting the arrival of "The Insect Musicians" by Graeme Revell for several weeks. Finally arrived today and it's spinning now. It fully meets my expectations, which were pretty high. :) What this is, is a record made up entirely of insect sounds, both "as recorded" and electronically manipulated. To quote from the back cover: "For the two years 1984-5, Graeme Revell travelled from Australia to Europe, to Africa, Indonesia and North America recording and negotiating copyrights of insect sound recordings. It took another full year sampling and metamorphosing some forty sounds thus gathered using the Fairlight Computer Musical Instrument, to produce this record. The only sounds used are those of insects, altered digitally and combined into a unique orchestra of instruments, an orchestra of strange and delicate timbres, music of natural rhythm and texture." Yeah, right, it continues to gush for awhile. :) Some random highlights from the track list: Nocturne (on an Oriental theme) Created from: Indonesian cicada, meadow grasshopper, Death's Head hawkmoth, African cicada Phobia (an Australian theme) Created form: drone fly, field cricket, Australian cicada, queen bee Invader of the Heart Created from: hive bees (disturbed), wood boring beetle, queen bee, European cicada, Death's Head hawkmoth Also includes a pretty neat booklet with a section on how insects make sound and another on the Fairlight machine, which was apparently a high-tech wonder in those days. Further writings are some philosphico-musical musings by the composer, some interesting excerpts from other writers both famous and obscure, and even a bibliography (!). Anyway, this is -very- cool. It's actually rather good music, and the sounds are, of course, unique. If you're a fan of ambient, or just Cool & Strange music in general, do not miss this one! Oh, and my understanding is that Graeme (who is a film music producer now) worked for a while as an assistant in an insane asylum. While there, he made recordings of the patients and, you guessed it, tweaked them up and made a record out of it. I'm on the lookout. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:13:55 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries In a message dated 4/26/1 6:58:32 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >The one I would take issue with is America. >That example demonstrates another trap for those of us searching for soft >pop on the basis of the "look" of the band. Sometimes it ends up being >folk rock. That's sort of what I meant by saying you have to look at their >hair. Yet "hair" was a Cowsill's topper popper..however, that gets us into the breaking down of hair history even further. A band with long hair and sporting hideous side parts a-la "boy's "regular" haircut circa 1959 had to be less than comfortable with long hair, but was wearing it as a political/solidarisnoc (right Lech?) statement. Buy the album to be sure. A band with mid-head parts realized that side parts weren't manageable with long hair (allow some space for the early-age-follically-challenged). But when the "band" America came along, the blow-drier had taken charge. This meant that guys looked like gyrrrls if they weren't yet follically challenged. America was America's first pre-fab, blow-dried soft rock band, and as such they must be added to the "They Sucked" list...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:18:16 -0500 From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered "m.ace" wrote: > Big Jim Sullivan was a busy 60s session player in Britain. Isn't he also rumored to have been "Lord Sitar"? > Sort of the Tommy Tedesco of the scene? Oh urgh. I hope not. Tedesco was *such* a hack. I actually paid 10 bucks to attend a "seminar" he gave for aspiring session musicians back in 1981. It was a total crock. He sat around, told boring stories, and played the same guitar lick over and over again. I've wanted that hour of my life back ever since. - -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:33:44 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Subject: (exotica) Cartridges Steve wrote: >- - How many hours of play does a needle have before it gets damaged? >I'm not sure exactly, but it would be in the thousands. This seems high but depends on a number of factors, including the composition of the stylus (diamond, sapphire..) the type of cantilever, the tracking force, and of course, the condition of the record. With all of the above factors at their worst case options, I'd say hundreds at best. >- - How can you tell if it is damaged? > If your records sound thin and a little distorted when they > didn't use to sound like that, or when you notice that you > are getting excessive wear from repeated playings, it's time > to change the stylus. This works in theory but not in principle as its usually not until you change it that you notice how the sound has degraded. The degradation is very slow and subtle. Of course you kick yourself for not noticing (as I've done myself). Supposedly with a proper magnifying glas, you can tell if the diamond has worn although i haven't had much success with this one myself. If your one of those types you could record the hours of use but here if you play records regularly you could calculate the use a lot easier. >- - Do scratchy records damage it? > Not really, but dirty records can gum up a stylus. I wouldn't think a skp that causes the needle to jump is good for the diamond or the caltilever, and large scratches are doing much the same on a smaller scale. Light scraches probably wouldn't be as severe. Dirt can gum up a stylus but with the right products a stylus can be cleaned, although it is fragile so it takes great care. It would be easy to say clean the record first and the sylus stays cleaner in an ideal world. >- - Are some needles heartier than others? > Yes, DJ cartridges have a very strong cantilever, and require > a higher tracking force. They are generally more durable than > audiophile cartridges that track at lighter weights. That's for sure! Stanton are the industry standard and from experience at our station I can see why! The Shure models we got didn't make it a month... And its not a cost thing, as some of the most expensive cartridges are the most fragile. Of course you can get a wide range of cartridges, from a $10 cheapie cartridge to a $2500 hand crafted wood model. I think I mentioned a while back totally falling for the moving coil type cartrigde as the sound was so much warmer and detailed as compared to similar priced moving magnet models. The problem with the moving coil is you may need a head amplifier stage as many of these cartridges are lower output, and you cannot replace the stylus yourself. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:56:46 EDT From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Graeme Revell - The Insect Musicians In a message dated 4/26/01 7:38:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gannet@jtel.net writes: << Oh, and my understanding is that Graeme (who is a film music producer now) worked for a while as an assistant in an insane asylum. While there, he made recordings of the patients and, you guessed it, tweaked them up and made a record out of it. I'm on the lookout. :) >> Unless I'm spacing (which is possible) I do believe he was also in early "industrial" group SPK, who put out some INTENSE music in their time that's well worth checking out. Stay away from their later major-era material (Machine Age Voodoo and after) though - -DavidH. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:01:40 -0700 From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ironic Enjoyment >Speaking of perhaps novelty music, what do you guys >think about Wesley Willis? his music is on one hand >just plain funny, but on another hand, it elicits a >strong cult following that I personally feel pretty >strongly. >Sure, hearing his vulgar phrases is humorous, but, >the music along with the lyrics always fires me up in >a genuine way. the fact that a schizophrenic >person can present his thoughts in such a way as to >connect with so many people to me is amazing and >fabulous. > >christine I'll tell you what isn't humorous: listening to Wesley's vulgar phrases repeated over and over and over and over and over again where you work, while he sits there and scares people, and then apologizes, and then does it all over again. But that's Tourettes for you. I wish I could laugh but I've spent too much time around Wesley, and not because I wanted to. On the one hand, it's nice that he received the fame and money, considering that for years he spent so much of his time sitting outside on the sidewalk, doing these huge drawings with his markers (pretty much like the ones you find on his albums, except far bigger), and selling them to people for so litttle. But on the other, I feel sorry for the guy and his problems, and all the people who have tried to take advantage of him. Sometimes though, you reach the end of one of his songs, get to a commercial catch phrase, and it ties the whole thing together in his own askew brilliance. Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:08:05 -0700 From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) organs and vocal suggestions Can someone give me a few suggestions of organ albums/songs with backing female vocals? As I recall there are some good ones by Lenny Dee but I don't own any, and I'm sure there are other organists out there that went down that path for a while. Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:28:23 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries At 10:17 PM 4/26/01 -0400, m.ace wrote: > >I have "The Cowsills In Concert" -- it opens with a studio cover of "Hair" >and the rest seems to be genuine live material. Side two gets sort of heavy >with tunes like "Sunshine Of Your Love" yeah that live album is not typical of their studio records. I have a feeling that live they were trying to prove they're a real band and they chose to do that through playing their instruments rather than sing their harmonies. If that's the only record of theirs you have, don't judge them by it. I have a live Association record too. It's better than the Cowsills but again, it's no "Birthday". AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:38:32 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) organs and vocal suggestions At 09:08 PM 4/26/01 -0700, F. Cobalt wrote: > >Can someone give me a few suggestions of organ albums/songs with backing female vocals? As I recall there are some good ones by Lenny Dee but I don't own any, and I'm sure there are other organists out there that went down that path for a while. Can you be more specific? Do you mean wordless vocals - as in oohing and aahing- or do you mean the females actual sing words? I would assume that I'd have an answer to this at my fingertips but I don't. And I don't want to go looking without knowing what you want. (But off the top of my head for instance, Lenny Dee does a version of "Peace Train" with female backing vocals but they actually sing whole sections of the chorus.) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:05:13 -0500 From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: (exotica) Hyakugojyuuichi!! Wow... http://member.iquest.net/~derecho/pika.swf - -Indy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Apr 2001 23:26:48 -0700 From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names When Marisa and I get together we will, I'm sure, get a cat...and we both think "Esquivel" would be cool! Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:18:30 +0200 (CEST) From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Graeme Revell - The Insect Musicians > << Oh, and my understanding is that Graeme (who is a film music=20 producer > now) > worked for a while as an assistant in an insane asylum. While=20 there, he > made recordings of the patients and, you guessed it, tweaked them up=20 and > made a record out of it. I'm on the lookout. :) Maybe you are referring to the record he made together with nurse with=20 wound and one more band where he interpreted the music written by Adolf=20 W=F6lfi, an art brut painter from i think switzerland. Revells tracks on=20 that record is (was? it was some years ago and my taste have changed)=20 great. Very exotic sounding. One track was later used as the theme for=20 the australian film "Dead calm".=20 Check out Adolf W=F6lfi too, an amazing artist. The insect record came out on vinyl in the mid to late 80s, I bought it=20 but I thought that Revells work on the W=F6lfi record was superior, so=20 you have something to look forward too! =20 Yes, Graeme Revell was SPK. Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 04:58:08 From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) Come Love >Who wrote "Come Love" ? >Was it Van Dyke Parks or another of those Wonoker Warner Brothers soft pop West Coast guys? For me Harpers Bizarre when they are not being Wnchester Cathedrally are as good as it gets in the sunshine pop or psychedlic pop vein, which I consider two seperate genres of the larger soft pop scene. The song is credited to Markes-Keith-Bergman. Not sure who they are. The song was (originally?) released in 1966 by Bruce & Terry -- that's Bruce Johnston and Terry Melcher -- on one of their many fine Columbia singles. I think their version is much better than Harper's Bizarre's. You can hear it on the Sundazed collection THE BEST OF BRUCE & TERRY. You can also hear it on the probably very hard to find, and expensive even when it was in print deluxe CD RARE MASTERS by Bruce and Terry, on the (defunct?) Japanese M&M label. This label issued two versions, the fancier one boastng a 56-page booklet and 34 tracks, some of them surf rock productions they did for the likes of Pat Boone and Wayne Newton (don't laugh, they're really good!). But the Sundazed collection is well worth having and contains most of the best songs plus a few otherwise unreleased ones. For the people seeking more harmony soft pop in a post PET SOUNDS vein, I recommend all of the recent Sagittarius/Millenium-related releases on the British Poptones label, and also the great Harmony Grass CD. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:37:17 +0200 From: Edjunkita Subject: Re: (exotica) Graeme Revell - The Insect Musicians gannet@jtel.net writes: > << Oh, and my understanding is that Graeme (who is a film music producer now) > worked for a while as an assistant in an insane asylum. While there, he > made recordings of the patients and, you guessed it, tweaked them up and > made a record out of it. I'm on the lookout. :) > >> Although not the one you're looking for, he is also on the compilation album "Necropolis, Amphibians & Reptiles" (1986 Music Brut) which is interpretations of the music of mental patient and outsider painter/musician Adolf Wolfli. Also on this comp. are Nurse With Wound, a band well worth checking out. There was also a CD + Book called "Musique Brut Collection" (1994) (Don't know what's on it though) Dj45rpm@aol.com wrote: >Unless I'm spacing (which is possible) I do believe he was also in early >"industrial" group SPK, who put out some INTENSE music in their time that's >well worth checking out. My guess is the early SPK stuff would be WAY to noisy for most exoticats here! The abbreviation SPK stood for various things: Socialist Patients Kollektiv (originally a group of german mental patients who were inspired by the Baader-Meinhof terrorist gang and blew themselves up while trying to make bombs in their mental hospital), Surgical Penis Klinik, SepPuKu (japanese ritual suicide) etc. >Stay away from their later major-era material (Machine Age Voodoo and after) >though That would be their middle period (yeah, it does suck), before Graeme Revell bought his Fairlight Computer. Then they (under the name SPK but Graeme solo as it was most of the time) made the best SPK album ever called Zamia Lehmanni (1986). It was rereleased on CD by Mute in 1992. Very atmospheric and very beautiful. Highly reccomended for exotica fans (who are not afraid of sampling). Reviews: http://www.softwatch.freeserve.co.uk/spkzamia.htm He reworked this album for his filmscore debut Dead Calm in1989, which earned him an australian academy award and paved the way for Hollywood. In the last twelve years he's had a highly prolific output, making soundtracks for The Hand that Rocks the Cradle, Body of Evidence (Madonna nekkid), Wim Wender's Until the End of the World, From Dusk till Dawn, John Woo's Hard Target, The Crow 1&2, Strange days, The Siege, Dune (TV version), Red Planet , Jennifer (daughter of David) Lynch's Boxing Helena, The Saint, and many, many more. Complete filmograpghy and interviews at: http://www.graemerevell.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:06:59 -0400 From: "Robert Cohen" Subject: (exotica) Re: a new subgenre discovered > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:08:26 -0400 > From: alan zweig > Subject: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered > Gilbert O'Sullivan Roy Budd Big Jim Sullivan. Tom Jones Buddy Merrill Duprees. Happenings Four Seasons Ultimate Spinach Free Design Velvet Underground Tim Buckley. Orpheus The Association The Fifth Dimension The Cowsills. The Partridges Tokens Happenings Hullabaloo Love Generation The Sunshine Company.... Dino Desi and Billy > AZ YIKES! Help! I've fallen and I can't get up. Wow, I can't absorb all this information so quickly. Somebody send me a list so I can know what to look for at yard sales this summer. Thanks, Alan, for the amazing trip back through time. I always go to yard sales with my friend Dan, and he also collects records. Wait until I start picking up Gilbert O'Sullivan, the Cowsills, and Dino, Desi, and Billy. He'll want to have me committed :-) Bob Cohen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 06:52:10 -0400 From: "Robert Cohen" Subject: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:50:35 +0200 > From: Johan Dada Vis > Subject: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names > > i named my cat "spike", after both spike milligan & spike jones, 2 of > my fave novelty artists. and she (yes it's a female) is so funny > sometimes too... > > Johan Both of our cats came from yard sales, a year apart. No, we didn't buy them, they were moving sales, and the people were looking for good homes for pets they couldn't take with them. One is Cheshire, the other is Kelton. Alice in Wonderland is pretty exotic, so I think Cheshire qualifies, even though we didn't actually name him. Bob Cohen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:21:03 +0200 From: Edjunkita Subject: Re: (exotica) Hyakugojyuuichi!! Indy Rutks wrote: > Wow... > > http://member.iquest.net/~derecho/pika.swf > > -Indy This is already a huge net phenomena. The kid who made it is only 14 years old. All his stuff is on: http://animutation.mixnmojo.com/ check out his interview: http://www.salon.com/tech/log/2001/04/26/animation/index.html he has a band too: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/62/trapezoid.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:06:53 +0200 (CEST) From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names I had a norvegian forest cat last year (similar in "style" to Americas Maine Coon) that I called "TIKI". He was indeed very tiki. Lots of humour and intelligent, he enjoyed the game "peek a boo I can see you". When sexuality hit him he got evil, but he did not hurt me, and he had severe attacks that knocked him out. He got run over by a car when he was 1 year old. I miss him a lot. He definetely "lived" during his short lifetime. I will get a new cat later this year, if its a she I will call her "Sondi" (Sondi Sodsai) or "Sandy" (The Exotica girl) depending on the color, a he will be called "Les" or maybe Tiki again. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:30:29 -0700 (PDT) From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries Kurt Boetcher is one of my favorites. He seems to capture Psychedellic Pop from his own angle. If you like Sagittarius get the Millenium and Ballroom cds. I have them both and love them though Sagittarius is still the classic. DJMingo an artist formerlly known as Jill Mingo, and a true soft pop expert, turned me on to Ballroom and Millenium. Has anyone heard the Millenium 2 cd at dusty and other music? Any recommendations. Also "Forever Changes" by Love has been expanded with some bonus cuts. Are these bonus cuts worth the admission price? I don't want to purchase this album for the 4th time in its newest format. Why didn't stupid Rhino get these bonus cuts on the Love box set! Rhino drives me up the wall. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck - --- Tipsydave@aol.com wrote: > > As far as the soft pop/psych thing goes... > Look for the Sagittarius lp "Present Tense". It's one of my > all-time favorite albums. Stunningly overproduced. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:41:24 -0400 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Hyakugojyuuichi!! > From: "Indy Rutks" > Wow... > > http://member.iquest.net/~derecho/pika.swf > > -Indy > Wow is right! Damn! Do you suppose there is any sense to be made of that (i.e. in Japanese) or do you think the lyrics are as schizophrenic as the images? Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:44:19 -0400 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names > From: bag@hubris.net > When Marisa and I get together we will, I'm sure, get a cat...and we both > think "Esquivel" would be cool! > > Byron > How about Whatchamacallit, Mucha Muchacha, or maybe just Juan, if the first two are too long? Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:10:00 -0500 From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Hyakugojyuuichi!! Clayton Black wrote: > Wow is right! Damn! Do you suppose there is any sense to be made of that > (i.e. in Japanese) or do you think the lyrics are as schizophrenic as the > images? Well, the lyrics make sense if you're a Japanese Pokemon fan. "Hyakugojuuichi" is "151" which as anybody who has kids knows, is the original number of Pokemon that you need to collect to become a Pokemon Master. Since the song was first released, that number has risen by a couple hundred more so the song will probably have to be renamed "Sanhyakugojuuni" (352) or probably even higher. - -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:36:45 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Hyakugojyuuichi!! >Wow is right! Damn! Do you suppose there is any sense to be made of that >(i.e. in Japanese) or do you think the lyrics are as schizophrenic as the >images? I translated it as: "Xtabay, Xtabay is pronounced..." Sorry. In the Salon article, it mentions something about being a Pokemon anthem, so the meaning of the lyrics may not be as nuts as we think. Gotta catch 'em all (Registered Trademark), Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:57:13 -0400 From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Al Hibbler April 27, 2001 Al Hibbler, a Singer With Ellington's Band, Dies at 85 By BEN RATLIFF Al Hibbler, the blind baritone singer who came to prominence with Duke Ellington's orchestra in the 1940's and then scored a hit with his version of the Alex North song "Unchained Melody," died on Tuesday at Holy Cross Hospital in Chicago. He was 85 and lived in Chicago. Mr. Hibbler's singing voice was mannered and strange. He used a fast, muscular vibrato; growled and crooned; put on an English accent; and turned songs into emotional rides. Ellington called it "tonal pantomime." Mr. Hibbler was blind at birth, in Tyro, Miss., and did not attend school until he was 15, when he went to the Arkansas School for the Blind. He sang in the school choir as a soprano, but by the end of his teenage years his voice had dropped, and he was soon singing the blues in Arkansas and Texas bars. He first tried out for Ellington's band in 1942, but, as he often recalled in what was seemingly his favorite story, he sang a song onstage with the band in Little Rock, Ark., got a good audience response, and then celebrated by getting drunk. The next day Ellington told him he wasn't ready to join the band. "I can handle a blind man," Mr. Hibbler said Ellington told him, "but not a blind drunk." Instead, he wound up working with Jay McShann's band for a year and a half, and returned to Ellington in 1943. Ellington wrote "Do Nothin' Til You Hear From Me" as a special number for Mr. Hibbler, and it became one of the band's hits. The eight years that Mr. Hibbler spent with the band were not among the creative high points of Ellington's career, but the audience did not wane; finally, however, Mr. Hibbler left the band over a payment dispute (said to have involved raising Mr. Hibbler's salary). Toward the end of time with Ellington, Mr. Hibbler's specialties became songs like "Trees" and "Danny Boy" — oddments in an Ellington show but indicative of the singer's future career as a ballads-and-standards singer. While with Ellington, Mr. Hibbler also recorded with Harry Carney, Mercer Ellington, Billy Kyle, Billy Taylor and others. Mr. Hibbler next signed with Verve, and made records for the next four years that included some of his former Ellington-band colleagues, but he hit pay dirt during his next contract, with Decca. In 1955 he recorded "Unchained Melody," from the prison film "Unchained." Though the film was not a hit, North's theme song was, and Mr. Hibbler's version and one by Les Baxter hit the charts the same week in April 1955. Baxter's rose to No. 1; Mr. Hibbler's peaked at No. 3. The next year Mr. Hibbler had another hit with "After the Lights Go Down Low." He filled an odd musical niche in this period because he could croon songbook standards and also sing earthy blues. When he became involved with the civil rights movement in the 1960's — marching with protesters and being arrested in 1959 and 1963 — the luster came off his recording career and labels were afraid to sign him. Frank Sinatra, however, contracted him for one album on his Reprise label, "Monday Every Day." In 1972 he recorded with the multi- instrumentalist Rahsaan Roland Kirk on the album "A Meeting of the Times," but otherwise performed and recorded infrequently. His last public appearance was in January 1999, at a Jazz at Lincoln Center evening of Ellington alumni, when he performed at a late-evening party. Seated, and using a vibrato as over- the-top as ever, he sang "Time After Time." He is survived by a sister, Christine Noland, and a brother, Hubert Hibbler, both of Chicago. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #964 *****************************