From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #991 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Monday, June 11 2001 Volume 02 : Number 991 In This Digest: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin (exotica) today's finds Re: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Re: (exotica) today's finds (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 10 (exotica) Raymond Scott Orchestrette @ BCM 6/15 (exotica) Tiki Party in a 21 Century SABP (exotica) James Bond and the Casino (exotica) The Untamed Sounds of 'Outside Music' - By JOE HAGAN (exotica) Luis Baclav a reprise - Who is Rocky Roberts? Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers (exotica) Irwin's response to the NYTimes article (exotica) 2 Dial-ated Pupils, the playlists (exotica) Love Lounge ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:06:11 -0700 From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Shorty Rogers exotica-digest wrote: >from Chances are It Swings, Shorty Rogers > >This is a great disk, btw - players include Barney >Kessel and Red Norvo. Wish I could have found a vinyl copy. I've grabbed all of the Spanish reissues of Shorty Rogers' RCA albums. They are all great. The only one that I was disappointed in was the Martians Go Home CD. The Count Basie tribute and the Swingin' Nutcracker are phenominal. If you like Shorty, also look into the Spanish CD reissues of Pete Jolly. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 16:07:29 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin At 01:51 PM 6/9/01 EDT, Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: >The other >album, which I haven't played yet is "Piano Strings and Bossa Nova". I had to >have it. that's a good record. There's one tune on there that starts off the same as the Mission Impossible theme. I guess he was stealing from himself. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 16:39:08 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers At 12:06 PM 6/9/01 -0700, bigshot wrote: > >exotica-digest wrote: > >>from Chances are It Swings, Shorty Rogers >> >>This is a great disk, btw - players include Barney >>Kessel and Red Norvo. Wish I could have found a vinyl copy. I have a vinyl copy but mostly I like it for the nice big picture of that girl and her sashaying derriere. If you weren't an ass-man, that gal could change your mind. (My apologies to the female members of the list but I bet you like those George Shearing "lesbian chic" covers yourself.) Shorty Rogers was obviously a great arranger and whatever else he did. But I particularly love the things he did which sound more crime jazzy. There are a lot of gems hidden here and there among his records. I don't know if I've ever found one that consistently had that sound. He did one of those Stereo Workshop records. There were a few cuts on that. If you can find the "Bossa Nova" record he did on Reprise. It's not really bossa nova; all the records in that series are like "personal visions of bossa nova". (I've recommended the Barney Kessel one before. It's amazing.) Somewhere on one of my groovy soundtrack compilations, I have a groovy Shorty Rogers cut from, I think, "Fools". And then there's the stuff he did with Perez Prado. And the similar record he made himself. "Afro Cuban Influences". That's not my favorite stuff but it's interesting. I'm always inspecting his jazz-looking records but I want crime jazz, not jazz jazz! Anyone recommend a more thoroughly crime jazzy record for Shorty? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 16:59:53 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin In a message dated 6/9/1 12:52:53 PM, Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: >The other >album, which I haven't played yet is "Piano Strings and Bossa Nova" that is a great shifrin LP...do u have it in stereo? JB/monoman in that realm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:17:14 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) today's finds Normally I don't post my purchases, but I found some very interesting things today: Gary McFarland & Gabor Szabo, "Simpataco" on Impulse (mint, stereo)...some vocals, some instros...1966. Great cover of the two of them on Yamaha Jet 100 and Yamaha Big Bear motorcycles in NYC trying to figure out where they are Gerald Wilson Big Band, "Moment Of Truth" on Pacific Jazz, contains the original version of "Viva Tirado", an old favorite of mine by El Chicano, which Los Chicharrons recently piled on top of Sylvia's "Pillow Talk" (mono) The Surfmen, "Exotic Island" on Somerset (mono). Prototypical exotica, great cover Quincy Jones "Big Band Bossa Nova" (been looking for this for awhile, its stereo mint) Oscar Peterson & Nelson Riddle "The Trio & The Orchestra With Strings" on Verve. Couldn't resist this combination of talents. (mono) Brass Ring "Gazpacho" on Dunhill. Should be called Brass Ring goes Latin..Always like the now sound boyz (stereo) Rimshots "Soul Train" A reissue someone didn't like so I picked it up mint and used. The Sound of Englewood, NJ circa 1972. Reissued by Sequel from A-1 Records which I think was a subsidiary of the label the Moments recorded on. (stereo) Jimmy Smith "Monster" on Verve, arranged and conducted by Oliver Nelson. Has TV themes and a couplea bluesy styled standards. (stereo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:22:49 -0500 From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Remember Ben..."It's not the heat, it's the humidity," Arizona is very dry. - ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: Ben Waugh Sent: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 05:44:00 -0700 (PDT) To: exotica@xmission.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Yes. Every time I begin to lose patience with the 90 degree snakebreeding jungle heat out my way, I check the weather in Phoenix and think of my pals there in their asbestos togas in the steady 115 degree blaze (they say with all the asphalt there it doesn't get all that cool at night anymore). Stopped there on the way to Las Vegas last summer. I could smell my hair curling as I stepped off the plane. Strangely beautiful state, though. - --- Colleen Pyles wrote: > I was raised in Arizona and saw a lot of Rt. 66 in > the southwest, > have not seen the northern part. =A0I'm anxious to see > that, although > the south west part is sooo unique. =A0"Last stop for > gas/water 300 > miles"..... =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! =A0http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. - ---- End Original Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 18:34:47 EDT From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin In a message dated 6/9/01 1:59:53 PM, DJJimmyBee writes: << that is a great shifrin LP...do u have it in stereo? JB/monoman in that realm >> Yes, it's a stereo copy. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 18:35:45 EDT From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin In a message dated 6/9/01 2:00:27 PM, DJJimmyBee@aol.com writes: << that is a great shifrin LP...do u have it in stereo? JB/monoman in that realm >> BTW, the liner notes are great!! Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:30:20 -0500 From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers >Anyone recommend a more thoroughly crime jazzy record for Shorty? Although he didn't write the music (Leith Stevens did that), Shorty Rogers DID do the arrangements for and played on the soundtrack for "The Wild One". On the original soundtrack, he's billed as Roger Short (for contractual reasons). Shorty later recorded the film score again, this time with his own band. If you can't find the soundtrack, there's an LP reissue from Fresh Sound in Spain, plus Shorty's own recording of the "Wild One" music is on an RCA CD and LP called "Short Stops". Great crime jazz! Back in the 80s I produced a series of jazz concert broadcasts from a local club, and we managed to get some real heavyweights in to appear on the show. On one memorable evening, we had Shorty Rogers and Bud Shank together! This was around the time Shorty had begun to cut back on his TV work and had started to record and perform in clubs again. I remember being introduced to this living legend, and I found him to be an incredibly warm, modest guy. He was so tickled by the enthusiasm with which his return to playing had received from the public. Sadly, he was gone just a few short years after that broadcast. I still have the tape of that concert around the office somewhere. I should try to dig it up. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 19:42:30 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) today's finds At 05:17 PM 6/9/01 EDT, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > >Normally I don't post my purchases, but I found some very interesting things >today: Why don't you post your purchases normally? Are you afraid of making us jealous? If someone doesn't step forward and post their purchases, then all we have left are guys sniping from the sidelines. >Gary McFarland & Gabor Szabo, "Simpataco" on Impulse (mint, stereo)...some >vocals, some instros...1966. Great cover of the two of them on Yamaha Jet 100 > and Yamaha Big Bear motorcycles in NYC I love this cover. I love Gary McFarland. I love Gabor Szabo. And I even love very inappropriate singing. Sometimes. But I really don't know what these two were thinking when they decided to sing together all through this record. I guess it must be Gabor's fault more than Gary since Gary often does a nice job of soft vocalizing on his own records. I'm not getting rid of my copy but I have to be in a really perverse mood to play it. >Gerald Wilson Big Band, "Moment Of Truth" on Pacific Jazz, contains the >original version of "Viva Tirado", I kept buying his records and finding them not good enough and getting rid of them. Then recently I bought his "greatest hits" and that's a hot record. Some guys you really just want their greatest hits, even if it's someone who never really had "hits" per se. >The Surfmen, "Exotic Island" on Somerset (mono). Prototypical exotica, great >cover I think it's better than prototypical exotica. First of all, true exotica is the one thing I have the most trouble finding. Outside of the two or three big names. So even prototypical exotica is a nice thing. But on top of it, this record has the most hilarious over-the-top "ooh ooh aah aah" bird calls I've ever heard on a record. It sounds like either someone's being strangled or a very loud bird is very very constipated. I think people underestimate this record. If this is the kind of record you find, please post more often. In my humble opinion, it's this kind of thing our creaking old list needs the most. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:49:13 -0400 From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 10 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #146 It's Another Br. Cleve Mix! Yet another compilation put together by Brother Cleve - it's outstanding, as usual! This one's more of a laid-back, chill out groove. Just listen, relax and enjoy. Thanks, Cleve! Calle Ocho: Jazzanova Jimpster: Haribo Starmix Ben We: Tuvan Tube Top Ursula 1000: Savoir Faire (Thievery Corp. Mix) Dzihan & Kamien: (A)fter (Atjazz Remix) Sonic Monks / Our Man In Odessa: Xedjo (Permafrost Jazz Mix) Nine Yards Orchestra: Coco Vaive Boozoo Bajou: Under My Sensi (Trio Electro Tip Kick Mix) Freedom Satellite: Soul Samba Cosmopolite: Concepcion Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:14:35 -0400 From: Irwin Chusid/Raymond Scott Archives Subject: (exotica) Raymond Scott Orchestrette @ BCM 6/15 RAYMOND SCOTT ORCHESTRETTE at Brooklyn Children's Museum, June 15 The Raymond Scott Orchestrette will perform at the Brooklyn Children's Museum on Friday June 15, from 6:30 to 7:30, as part of Arts at St. Ann's "World's In Tune" series. Admission is FREE, and the performance takes place on the roof of the BCM. In addition to well-known works from Scott's legendary Quintette period, the 7-piece Orchestrette performs acoustic arrangements of Scott's electronic works. The RSO consists of Brian Dewan (electric zither, piano, accordion, koto, vocals, arrangements); Michael Hashim (saxes); Will Holshouser (accordion, arrangements); Deidre Rodman (piano); George Rush (bass and tuba); Rob Thomas (violin); and Clem Waldmann (drums). David Garland will guest reprise his for-children-of-all-ages performance of Scott's "And the Cow Jumped Over the Moon." The Brooklyn Children's Museum: http://www.bchildmus.org/ Visit the RSO info page: http://RaymondScott.com/orchette.html includes two audio files # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:27:23 -0400 From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Tiki Party in a 21 Century SABP Today on WJUL I had a chance to host "Dave's True Story" live in the studio. There is a free download of their version of "Fever" on the web page www.davestruestory.com that some of you will really like. I did. While there, Tim, our sound engineer, asked me where he can find some Les Baxter. His room mate is having a Tiki party in a few weeks. On the 23rd. So naturally I said don't worry about the music! Invite me and I'll bring the music! I was at his place for a station picnic a few months ago and saw his pal's fledgling tiki mug collection and he's been expanding on it. No doubt so we have something to drink out of at the party. And he bought a giant tiki. JB,This guy sounds like a kindred spirit. Also noticed stereo equipment to kill for, and most of the Bond movies already on DVD and Casino Royal on tape. I wonder why he had Casino Royal. Is that really a Bond movie? These are pretty young guys too. The space age bachelor pad of the 21th century! So. I got plenty of Exotica. But I do remember someone posting a killer exotica comp they made a while ago. Save me the trouble and send it over? I'll pass over a home made comp in return. BTW, In a few minutes I'll be going to my sister in laws bridal shower. I put together a nice mellow comp as background music for while we are eating. (Mancini, The Mill from Bedazzled, even some Blow up stuff) But they wont let me near the cdplayers!) But like our bold Jimmy I will bust a move. ;') Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html (On Real Audio) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:53:00 +0100 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) James Bond and the Casino Mr. Unlucky asked: Oh, and why ISN'T Casino Royale and James Bond film anyway? whoever posted that it was somehow special that people in this group think it is, when it is? Well, Casino Royale is a James Bond Film and its not. Its not part of the major cannon. If you asked a load of people to list actors who had played James Bond, a few would eventually remember George(?) Lazenby, but only the truly smartarsed would say David Niven. Its not an Albert Broccolli production. Doesn't use the well known James Bond musical themes. Whoever it was wrote them. (this is a sarky reference to the recent court case rather than a question). Its more of a comedy than the other JB films. Its more American. It may be in the US its perceived as a James Bond film, but over here, its usually shown in isolation, never as part of a James Bond season. Perhaps Cubby B had cast iron contracts with all the TV companies here to keep it away from his franchise. I like it, don't think I don't, and its a great OST, too. But to me, its one I things I like about the list is that we would call it a James Bond film, when Nobody else I know would. I think its because its such a great OST and we know it because of that, its higher in our consciousness than for most people. Or something like that. But then it is mentioned in the song 'Sock It to Em JB'. But I think thats more about the books. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:55:45 +0200 From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) The Untamed Sounds of 'Outside Music' - By JOE HAGAN LAST month, I heard David Bowie's 1969 glam-rock classic "Space Oddity" as if for the first time. I'd heard the song on the radio before, of course; however, coming as it did, not from Mr. Bowie but from a choir of elementary school kids in a remote farm community in northern Canada, this was something new. Orchestrated in the late 1970's by a hippie music teacher named Hans Fenger, the scratchy recording sounded like a document of a clandestine event, as if Mr. Bowie's song had been co-opted for a cult ceremony. The instrumentation included electric guitar and the gamelan-like chimes invented for children by the composer Carl Orff. The lyric of the song's wayward astronaut, "For here/ Am I sitting in my tin can/ Far above the moon," never=20 resonated so genuinely. Indeed, the album from which the song comes,=20 "Innocence and Despair" (Basta Audio-Visuals=20 3091102), by the Langley Schools Music Project,=20 exists outside just about everyone's cultural=20 radar. Mysterious and haunting in its hermetic vision, the album, which will be released in the=20 fall, also includes renditions of Wings' "Band=20 on the Run" and the Eagles' "Desperado" (the=20 latter sung by a 9-year-old girl). It is a discovery recently classified as "outsider music"=20 by Irwin Chusid, the music archivist and disc=20 jockey on WFMU in Jersey City. Look for the full story at http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/10/arts/10HAGA.html *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***=20 *** Ton R=FCckert Mozartstraat 12 5914RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto 31/0 773545386 *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.psychedelicado.com ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:27:10 +0100 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Luis Baclav a reprise - Who is Rocky Roberts? Still not had a chance to read those Giugliaro magazines, but listened to the EP's a few times. The track by Luis Baclav that my friend said sounded like an Italian Elvis Impersonator was actually sung by Rocky Roberts. Its a great track, rips along like Tom Jones in early 70's RnB mode. His voice reminds me of early 60's uptempo British Rock'n'Roll/RnB. I've been trying to work out who, maybe the Pretty Things. Great stuff I couldn't find out much about him, most of the sites seem to be in Italian, German or Spanish. And with the translations being what they are, but he seems to be American, an RnB singer that moved to Europe. Is there anything else this groovy by him? El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:38:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers You might also want to check out the ST to Man with the Golden Arm (a jazz musician's struggle with heroin and daily existence in the underworld halflight). I think Elmer Bernestein is credited with the score - but Shorty Rogers and His Giants do several fine tracks on this record. - --- Darrell Brogdon wrote: > > >Anyone recommend a more thoroughly crime jazzy > record for Shorty? > ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:03:47 -0400 From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Irwin's response to the NYTimes article Irwin posted this to the Outsider Music list: Author Joe Hagan did an admirable job in explaining outsider music and placing it in a contemporary cultural context. His writing is strongest when he explains the music's appeal, and with a few dodgy exceptions (below), his facts are generally accurate. I, for one, am grateful for the exposure accorded to several of my projects, and consider the article worthwhile for publicizing the phenomenon of outsider music. However, in the interests of clarifying the public record, I submit the following comments to the List. (In some cases, it is possible the inaccuracies or omissions are attributable to editors who altered the author's original text.) 1) The article begins by discussing the Langley Schools Music Project CD, 'Innocence and Despair,' but doesn't mention that I had anything to do with it. In fact, I conceived the project, and convinced Basta to undertake the first commercial release of these obscure mid-70s recordings; contacted the Langley school administrators, and tracked down music supervisor Hans Fenger (who left the district in 1979) and several of his former students; formulated the licensing agreements; researched the history chronicled in the liner notes; named the album; sequenced the tracks; obtained photos; designed the front and back covers, and triggered an ongoing battle of wills with the American Orff-Schulwerk Association (who have rejected any connection with this release). Yet when my name is finally brought up in the third paragraph, it's merely to "classify" these kids as "outsiders." It's as if the NYT writer, after hearing this album, called an "expert," who listened over the phone, stroked his chin, and certified its authenticity ("Yes, the Langley children conclusively meet all the criteria for 'outsider' by the academy's standards."). Whether I actually referred to the Langley recordings as "outsider" to the reporter misses the point. I'm not releasing these recordings because these kids are "outsider"; I'm releasing them because they are works of stunning, enduring beauty. And as articulated on the CD's back cover, the Langley recordings transcend ANY category (though I have jokingly referred to them as "campfire rock"). 2) The Shaggs' 'Philosophy of the World' LP/CD cover is pictured in the print edition. Caption underneath, in its clueless entirety: "The cover of a garage-band album." 3) Jack Mudurian is referred to as a "72-year-old who was recorded at his retirement home singing 129 Broadway standards." Mudurian was in his mid- to late-50s when these standards -- many of which had no connection to Broadway - -- were recorded in the Duplex Nursing Home, which was not a "retirement home." 4) The rights to the Shaggs' life story were acquired by Artisan Entertainment, not "Artisan Studios." 5) The Key of Z CD does not "accompany" the book; they were packaged and sold separately by two unrelated companies. The company who published the book, A Cappella, is not identified; the company who released the CD, Which? Records, is identified, despite the fact that they went out of business four months ago. 6) Peter Grudzien does not "yodel" about gays in the military. He sings. Yodeling is a technique which is not part of Grudzien's repertoire. 7) Daniel Johnston's performance at Tonic last month is described as having been "received with silent awe by a typically aloof downtown crowd." I attended, and the crowd was anything but "silent"; Daniel was wildly cheered. 8) "Alternative" and "indie" rock, with their "willfully amateur aesthetic and cheap recording techniques," are referred to as phenomena which arose after the "mid-80s." These labels and styles came to prominence in the late 1970s, with the D.I.Y. movement. They were meaningless marketing cliches by the late '80s. 9) The web site version is headlined "The Untamed Sounds of 'Outside Music'." The common term is "outsider," not "outside." Sorry for the "gotcha" tone of several points above. The NYT considers itself the "paper of record," and at no point was I contacted by a fact-checker to confirm anything in the story. While some of the above corrections are minor, I was particularly distressed by the omissions chronicled in #1 above, which made me seem like some professorial dork who sits around and dispenses ex cathedra assessments on what's "outsider" and what's not. Additional notes: B.J. Snowden called me on Sunday, terribly disappointed that her picture did not run. The NYT photo editor had requested a pic from her, and she submitted one. Surely not the author's omission. The photos of Daniel Johnston and Jack Mudurian which accompany the story were deemed unacceptable by the NYT photo editor when first submitted (by Ron English and David Greenberger, respectively). The Johnston photo was derided because it made Daniel look "fat," and the Mudurian photo was considered inadequate because Jack's face is partly obscured by a Dunkin Donuts coffee cup. Needless to say, both photos perfectly capture their subjects, and add immeasurably to the page's impact. The Langley CD cover was also requested and submitted, but did not run. If anyone wants to view it, please contact me off-list and I will email a 108K jpg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:31:58 From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: (exotica) 2 Dial-ated Pupils, the playlists Yet again I've overcome both my congenital laziness as well as the twinge of embarrassment I feel with such self-aggrandizing gestures, to bring you my 2 previous playlists. Some of the more interesting selections are as follows (recent bargain bin/thrift store acquisitions all): 1) Percy faith -- Superfly -- Clair -- LP -- Columbia. This is at least the second (next to "Evil Ways") selection I've heard by P.F. has surprised me by being "heavy"/psychedelic. No strings, even. 2) Cannonball adderley/Nat Adderley Sextet/Rick Holmes (narration) -- Sagittarius -- Soul Zodiac -- LP -- Capitol. For me, this beats out "The Zodiac Cosmic Sounds" as the "heaviest" astrology record extant. 3) Gabor Szabo -- Galatea's Guitar -- Dreams -- LP -- Skye. I think Alan mentioned Gabor, and that he liked him. I do too, especially his "deeper", electric guitar work, with that psychedelic Eastern vibe. I guess such a unique sound prevented him from much work as a sideman/session guitarist. A majestic production on the big-production Skye label. 4) Alex North -- Cut 5, Cue D, Act 1, Scene 3 (incidental music from) "The Innocents" -- LP -- Major Production Music. This is the first production library LP that I've found in a thrift store. Vibraphones, gongs, and eerie electronic drones (ring modulators?). I'm finally beginning to understand how production library music was used, I think. 5) Hal Vincent -- Heavy Spaceman -- Hal Vincent -- LP -- AD-Rhythm. I believe this was compiled on one of those "Ursala 3000" comps. Spacey, mildly funky baldwin organ workout ala Dick Hyman. God bless the early 70's. - ------------------------------------- PLAYLIST FOR JUNE 9, 2001 ARTIST -- SONG -- ALBUM -- FORMAT -- LABEL walter wanderley -- a mesma rosa amarela -- Walter Wanderley's Brazilian Organ -- LP -- Capitol luis bonfa -- amazonas -- Bonfa -- LP -- Dot banda de pau e corda -- ciranda de roda com rosa -- Redencao -- LP -- RCA elis regina -- o mestre sala dos mares -- Elis -- LP -- Philips sergio mendes -- lost in paradise -- Stillness -- LP -- A&M joao donato -- lunar tune -- A Bad Donato -- LP -- Blue Thumb airto -- tombo in 7/4 -- Fingers -- LP -- CTI laso -- puerto rico me llama -- Laso -- LP -- MCA sophy -- la ultima palabra -- Me Estoy Volviendo Tuya -- LP -- Velvet ltG exchange -- corazon -- 7" -- Fania salsoul orchestra -- you're just the right size -- Salsoul -- LP -- Salsoul sylvia robinson -- not on the outside -- Pillow Talk -- LP -- Vibration shirley and company -- shame shame shame -- Shame Shame Shame -- LP -- Vibration maryann farra & satin soul -- never gonna leave you -- Never Gonna Leave You - -- LP -- Brunswick roberta flack -- go up moses -- Quiet Fire -- LP -- Atlantic percy faith -- superfly -- Clair -- LP -- Columbia herbie mann -- pick up the pieces -- Discotheque -- LP -- Atlantic kool and The gang -- wild and peaceful -- Wild and Peaceful -- LP -- De-Lite cannonball adderley/Nat Adderley Sextet/Rick Holmes -- sagittarius -- Soul Zodiac -- LP -- Capitol shelly manne -- mask -- Mannekind -- LP -- Mainstream gabor szabo -- galatea's guitar -- Dreams -- LP -- Skye - ------------------------------------- PLAYLIST FOR JUNE 2, 2001 ARTIST -- SONG -- ALBUM -- FORMAT -- LABEL The Afro Blues Quintet -- Afro Rock -- New Directions of the Afro Blues Quintet Plus One -- LP -- Mira Cal Tjader -- Soul Sauce (Guacha Guaro) -- Soul Sauce -- LP -- Verve Frank Ferrer Jr. and His Orchestra -- Mundi Baja -- The Wonderful Latin-American Sound of Puerto Rico -- LP -- RCA The Lat-Teens -- Smoke Shop -- Buena Gente -- LP -- Cotique Eddie Palmieri -- Revolt/La Libertad Logico -- 7" -- Tico Fania All-Stars -- Descarga Fania -- Live at the Cheetah (Vol. 1) -- LP -- Fania Eddie Cano and His Sextet -- Short Run -- Deep In a Drum -- LP -- RCA Webley Edwards -- Alika -- Exotic Instrumentals, Vol. 4 -- LP -- Capitol Paulo Alencar and His Orchestra -- Come Back My Love (Ninguem Na Rua) -- 7" -- Alpine Living Jazz -- Moon Mist -- Quiet Nights -- LP -- RCA Alex North -- Cut 5, Cue D, Act 1, Scene 3 (incidental music from) "The Innocents" -- LP -- Major Production Music Vincent Bell -- Airport, Love Theme -- Airport -- LP -- Musicor Hal Vincent -- Heavy Spaceman -- Hal Vincent -- LP -- AD-Rhythm Dick Hyman -- Fantomfingers -- Fantomfingers -- LP -- Project 3 Marty Manning and the Cheetahs -- Tarzan (Tarzan's March) -- 7" -- Columbia Claus Ogerman -- Right Now -- Watusi Trumpets -- LP -- RCA Helen Gamboa -- Shing-A-Ling Time -- 7" -- Jonal Duncan Lamont -- Costa Plenty -- Latin a Lamont -- LP -- Festival Enoch Light -- Bond Street -- Spaced Out -- LP -- Project 3 The Jason Ryder Sound -- Colored Spade -- Music from the Sensational Hair -- LP -- MFP Klaus Doldinger -- I Feel Free -- Doldinger Jubilee -- LP -- Atlantic Maynard Ferguson -- Wack Wack -- Ridin' High -- LP -- Enterprise Jazz Crusaders -- Ooga-Booga-Loo -- Lighthouse '68 -- LP -- Pacific Jazz The Fourth Way -- The Sun and Moon Have Come Together -- The Sun and Moon Have Come Together -- LP -- Harvest The Visitors -- Reflections (On New York City, Everything is Everything) -- Neptune -- LP -- Cobblestone - ------------------------------------- thanks, Dan (Aries) - ------------------------------------------------------------ Hear! "Dial-ated Pupils" -- every Saturday 4-6 pm CST exclusively at www.radio1austin.com. I will lead you safely through the perilous dark jungles of Austin's scratchiest record collection. Exotic jazz. Obscure Latin, Afro, and Eastern grooves. Easy listening arcana. Bring your bug spray. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:41:53 -0400 From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Love Lounge http://nytimes.com/2001/06/11/technology/11PIXA.html?pagewanted=1&0611inside From a NYTimes article about computer-animation studio Pixar's new headquarters: Perpendicular to the atrium and at opposite edges are two broad corridors. And running off these avenues are networks of office pods creating a labyrinth of high-tech spaces. The decorations mirror the sensibilities of those who work there. In the animators' wing, for instance, an eccentric kind of design competition seems to be under way. One cluster of offices has set up its own rock 'n' roll stage. A South Seas theme dominates another area, complete with tiki torches and bamboo hutches. Mr. Lasseter, Pixar's creative director, dressed in one of his trademark aloha shirts, was moving rapidly down one of the main corridors, heading from one meeting to another. ``Hey, have you seen the Love Lounge yet?'' he asked. ``Great. Let's go.'' He took a zigzag course toward the building's southern wing, passing under some ``Phantom of the Opera''- type chandeliers, around a pool table and through a grove of tree trunks used as snack tables. Finally, Mr. Lasseter pushed open the door of a corner office belonging to Andrew Gordon, an animator. It looked like any of the other dozens of offices in the complex: white walls, about 10 feet square, dominated by a desktop computer. ``Is anyone in the Love Lounge?'' Mr. Lasseter asked. Mr. Gordon stood up from behind his desk, reached for a 1940's vintage smoking jacket hanging from a hook on the wall and slipped it on. Then he bent over and unlocked a small, white door half hidden near the floorboards along one edge of his office. To get through the door, you need to crawl on hands and knees before emerging into a strangely festooned crawl space about the size of a restaurant booth. The walls and the low, irregular ceiling were stainless steel, probably because the crawl space had been put in to provide access to an air- conditioning unit. Benches covered with tasseled pillows have been installed along two of the walls, with a fold-up cocktail table in between. Every nook and cranny around the walls is filled with glassware, liquor bottles or bric-a-brac. A string of multicolored lights hangs overhead. ``Welcome to the Love Lounge,'' Mr. Lasseter said. ``The specialty of the house is Pimm's Cup.'' Sure enough, Mr. Gordon appeared with two icy glasses brimming with a rosy liquid and placed them atop official Love Lounge cocktail napkins. (There are also Love Lounge matchbooks and T-shirts.) A video monitor provides a view of the corridor to see if anyone is approaching. Distinguished visitors are invited to write their names on the wall with an indelible marker. Among the names are Michael Eisner, Roy Disney and Randy Newman. The space was discovered shortly after the headquarters was first occupied, and it didn't take long for Mr. Gordon and others to begin decorating it and for its legend to grow. Quietly, at first, and then with gradually rising force, the sound of a prewar swing orchestra began to purr out of small speakers. A woman crooned about love and moonlight. Mr. Lasseter swirled the ice cubes in his Pimm's Cup, which chattered noisily in the enclosed space. Mr. Gordon poked his head in again. Another drink? Mr. Lasseter smiled and shrugged slightly, as if to say, well, why not? ``It's a pretty good place to come to work,'' he said. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #991 *****************************