From: "Christian Strik" Subject: (fractint) ICQ Number list - Rev 1. Date: 01 May 1998 00:50:25 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0263_01BD749B.218243E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this = list in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for clarity = reasons. Andrew Duhan / Felix - #10363110 Paul Derbyshire - #??? Alex Dukay - #8515817 Ir=E9n=E9=E9 Mercier - #7217822 Jon Fetting - #4024153 Paul Lee - #8804332 Christian Strik - #11760568 Nhan Nguyen - #341018 Angela Wilczynski (Wizzle) - #503044 / #1205072 Michael Bell - #11379737 David Forbus - #2512475 I selected names and numbers by looking at mail subjects. I'm not = suggesting this list is complete... Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been = listed here (my fault then), please mail. Christian Strik ------=_NextPart_000_0263_01BD749B.218243E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A number of members have posted = their ICQ=20 numbers / nicknames on this list in the last couple of days. I've put = them on=20 this list for clarity reasons.

Andrew Duhan / Felix - = #10363110

Paul Derbyshire - #???

Alex Dukay - #8515817

Irénéé=20 Mercier - #7217822

Jon Fetting - #4024153

Paul Lee - #8804332

Christian Strik - #11760568

Nhan Nguyen - #341018

Angela = Wilczynski (Wizzle) -=20 #503044 / #1205072

Michael Bell - = #11379737

David Forbus - = #2512475

I selected names and numbers by = looking at mail=20 subjects. I'm not suggesting this list is complete...

Any members on ICQ, who haven't = mailed their #s=20 yet, or haven't been listed here (my fault then), please = mail.

Christian = Strik

------=_NextPart_000_0263_01BD749B.218243E0-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?SXLpbullIE1lcmNpZXI=?=" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 07:09:22 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BD74D0.1101EB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For Outlook Express: it's easy to get text only messages and to remove = MIME formatting To do so: Execute Outlook Express. Click on Tools Menu Click on Options Menu Click on Send Menu Click on Plain Text OR: When you are in the New Message Windows Before typing the message: Click Format Menu Click Plain Text (This will remove the check mark before Rich Text HTML) That's all Folks. Irenee Mercier irenee@boisfrancs.qc.ca -----Original Message----- From: Christian Strik To: fractint@lists.xmission.com Date: 30 avril, 1998 15:11 Subject: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime =20 =20 Thanx Ian, John. I didn't know there were/are Win-based versions of = GhostScript. =20 Besides, I saw my message was dual-formatted mime. Outlook Express = users, does any of you know how to turn it off? May save some bits & = bytes...=20 =20 Christian Strik ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BD74D0.1101EB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For Outlook Express: it's easy to = get text only=20 messages and to remove MIME formatting

To do so:

Execute Outlook Express.

Click on Tools Menu

Click on Options Menu

Click on Send Menu

Click on Plain Text

OR:

When you are in the New Message=20 Windows

Before typing = the=20 message:

Click Format Menu

Click Plain Text (This will remove the check mark = before Rich=20 Text HTML)

That's all Folks.

Irenee Mercier

irenee@boisfrancs.qc.ca

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Christian Strik <cstrik.isg@hetnet.nl>
T= o:=20 fractint@lists.xmission.com=20 <fractint@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 30 avril, 1998 15:11
Subject: (fractint) = Dual-formatted=20 mime

Thanx Ian, John. I didn't know = there=20 were/are Win-based versions of GhostScript.

Besides, I saw my message was dual-formatted = mime. Outlook=20 Express users, does any of you know how to turn it off? May save = some bits=20 & bytes...

Christian = Strik

------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BD74D0.1101EB80-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Sorry... About Mandel Date: 01 May 1998 14:41:54 +0100 Jiho wrote: >Do you ever wonder if Benoit Mandelbrot cares that we never use his full >name? Well, always never use his full name or his correct last name for >that matter. It's like calling Tim Wegner, "WEG", or Lee Skinner, "SKIN". >Wouldn't it bother you? I guess *you* won't have any problems with it if we'll do it to your name ;-) Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Got a new printer Date: 01 May 1998 10:42:55 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Angela Wilczynski wrote: > A note on shopping.......I found that the absolute rock bottom prices > were to be found on the web via ZD net and it's vendors and NOT in > Computer Shopper. My kid didn't believe me until I did print outs for > him. The place where we buy puter parts (Fry's here in la la land) > will match any price one can find, so we saved $175 on my puter via my > web shopping!!! Actually, you can find even lower prices at EBay or Haggle Online -- http://www.ebay.com/aw/ and http://www.haggle.com/ -- usually used equipment, but not all. Fry's has an extremely bad reputation among geeks for quality and support, but personally, I didn't have any trouble with the things I bought from them -- RJ-45 crimpers, CAT-5 cable, and a CD-ROM drive. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 16:49:24 +0100 Thanx, but what I actually meant was how to keep sending HTML without the plain text part. Maybe this isn't possible, but I guess the plain text is only included for compatibility reasons, which I want to disable. (To this list I will send only messages formatted in plain text though; I've read some of the members are using very old - this is an understatement - mail readers). Christian -----Original Message----- From: Irénée Mercier To: fractint@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, May 01, 1998 12:11 PM Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime For Outlook Express: it's easy to get text only messages and to remove MIME formatting To do so: Execute Outlook Express. Click on Tools Menu Click on Options Menu Click on Send Menu Click on Plain Text OR: When you are in the New Message Windows Before typing the message: Click Format Menu Click Plain Text (This will remove the check mark before Rich Text HTML) That's all Folks. Irenee Mercier irenee@boisfrancs.qc.ca -----Original Message----- From: Christian Strik To: fractint@lists.xmission.com Date: 30 avril, 1998 15:11 Subject: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Thanx Ian, John. I didn't know there were/are Win-based versions of GhostScript. Besides, I saw my message was dual-formatted mime. Outlook Express users, does any of you know how to turn it off? May save some bits & bytes... Christian Strik Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) spooky themes Date: 01 May 1998 07:53:07 -0700 Is it just me, or does it seem a lot of us are six months out of sync? With all of the spooky themes (spiders, ghosts, goblins, Lucifer, zombies) you'd think it was Halloween! Hopefully some of us will remember to dredge this stuff up in the fall. This gives me an idea. Some of us have seasonal theme sections of our Web sites, but given the interest in certain themes relevant to holidays (I recall a number of images, including my own, for Christmas, New Year's Eve, Valentine's Day, Easter) I think it would be really cool if someone with spare server space (not me, at least not until I can scrape up the extra cash for a Simplenet account) would set up a theme page for the list. I guess I'd better start thinking about the 4th of July (relevant only to us yanks)... Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 11:23:00 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 1 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > Thanx, but what I actually meant was how to keep sending HTML without the > plain text part. Maybe this isn't possible, but I guess the plain text is > only included for compatibility reasons, which I want to disable. (To this > list I will send only messages formatted in plain text though; I've read > some of the members are using very old - this is an understatement - mail > readers). Even fairly recent mailreaders don't necessarily support HTML, you know. My mailreader is Pine 3.96, dated 28 February 1997, and it doesn't support HTML. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Anyone porting Fractint for Windows NT Date: 01 May 1998 17:04:20 +0100 What'll happen / has happened to Turner Rentz, sender of the beloved winfract source? According to the results of the 'who' command (posted 4/30/98 18:08 CET), he's still on the list. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Anyone porting... Date: 01 May 1998 09:17:13 -0700 At 05:04 PM 5/1/98 +0100, you wrote: >What'll happen / has happened to Turner Rentz, sender of the beloved >winfract source? No action is needed. Tim has eliminated the threat with a filter; as long as it can't happen again, I'm happy. If only such clean remedies were an option in the *real* world... Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Preslar Subject: (fractint) Video card/mode Date: 01 May 1998 11:29:37 -0500 In trying to get my Diamond Fire GL1000 Pro to work with FractInt, I have: 1. followed the advice of Sylvie Gallet: > I used a small freeware called vesa2cfg.exe that detects all the VESA >modes supported by your video card. Just run it and it will create a text >file called qpv.cfg. Each line of this file describes one of the VESA >modes available. For example, my qpv.cfg has the following line: > 1600 1200 256 1600 $4f02 $011c > that means: > 1600x1200 256 colors AX=4f02 BX=11c > And here is the entry I added to fractint.cfg: >CF9 ,Millennium VESA mode ,4f02, 11C, 0, 0, 28,1600,1200,256,OK: >Sylvie Gallet 2. installed SciTech Display Doctor based on the advice of Tim Wegner: >Fractint supports the VESA video standard. If you can't use Fractint >with your board, read your board docs; sometimes software that comes >with your board provides VESA support. Failing that, check out >http://www.scitechsoft.com/index.html >for the SciTech Display Doctor, a shareware utility that (among other >things) adds VESA support. The same company used to produce a >utility called UniVBE that I *think* is free. Try a web search to >find it. Since installing SDD, the vsa2cfg program recognizes many more modes for my card and I have entered the information in fractint.cfg as Sylvie suggests but I still get the message that this video mode is not supported. Does anyone have any advice here? Janet Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 11:32:22 -0600 (CST) On Fri, 1 May 1998, [iso-8859-1] Ir=E9n=E9e Mercier wrote: > For Outlook Express: it's easy to get text only messages and to remove MI= ME formatting Then how come you sent this one in HTML?=20 Please, no more! If I'm in WinDOH!s, I use Pine on the school's mail computer, and I can barely make out what is being said in these messages. Good thing quoting converts it to normal text... Justin K. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Anyone porting Fractint for Windows NT Date: 01 May 1998 12:36:37 -0400 >>>What'll happen / has happened to Turner Rentz, sender of the beloved winfract source? According to the results of the 'who' command (posted 4/30/98 18:08 CET), he's still on the list.<<< Well, I, for one, am willing to forgive him, if he did this out of naivete and not maliciousness. Actually, if you are a new computer user and your company has always had T1 access, this is an easy mistake to make. For example, when I first saw his message and the attachment, I did not give it a second thought. For our system, a 1Mb attachment is nothing. Of course the firestorm of protest that followed is certainly justifiable. But (again, assuming he just made a mistake), he must feel bad enough already. Just my 00000010 cents. Nick Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Anyone porting Fractint for Windows NT Date: 01 May 1998 13:01:32 -0400 nick.grasso@hrads.com wrote: > ..... he must feel bad enough already. > Not bad enough to have come forth to offer his apologies! Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 18:36:06 +0100 OK, maybe your version of Pine isn't quite old, but in a way quite old-fashioned :-) I always thought Linux (and its apps) were in front of the queues when new technologies, formats and standards are introduced. But maybe Pine is an exception to that. (Or maybe you use pine on another platform). I can't make a good judgment on Pine, as I always declined to use it. From your postings, i deduced you don't really favor windows, but for some applications (like e-mail) I think windows is the best. Except when you're using Pegasus of course :-) Christian (Sorry for this messy message). -----Original Message----- >On Fri, 1 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: >> Thanx, but what I actually meant was how to keep sending HTML without the >> plain text part. Maybe this isn't possible, but I guess the plain text is >> only included for compatibility reasons, which I want to disable. (To this >> list I will send only messages formatted in plain text though; I've read >> some of the members are using very old - this is an understatement - mail >> readers). > >Even fairly recent mailreaders don't necessarily support HTML, you know. > >My mailreader is Pine 3.96, dated 28 February 1997, and it doesn't >support HTML. > >Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) Re: F.O.T.N. 30April98 Date: 01 May 1998 10:15:50 -0700 >>Doctor_Mouth { ; (c) Jay Hill, 1998 What a great uvula! Too many fractal mouths leave out the uvula. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 19:07:43 +0100 The ease of formatting my hard drive doesn't mean I ever format my harddrive :-) Christian -----Original Message----- On Fri, 1 May 1998, [iso-8859-1] Irénée Mercier wrote: > For Outlook Express: it's easy to get text only messages and to remove MIME formatting Then how come you sent this one in HTML? Please, no more! If I'm in WinDOH!s, I use Pine on the school's mail computer, and I can barely make out what is being said in these messages. Good thing quoting converts it to normal text... Justin K. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 14:07:06 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 1 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > OK, maybe your version of Pine isn't quite old, but in a way quite > old-fashioned :-) > I always thought Linux (and its apps) were in front of the queues when new > technologies, formats and standards are introduced. Sometimes. But Linux is fairly user-driven; people don't start implementing things until they want them. Commercial vendors implement what they think people *will* want, in the near future. Linux and Linux apps therefore tend to not be quick to jump on technology bandwagons. > But maybe Pine is an > exception to that. (Or maybe you use pine on another platform). Actually, I use Pine on SunOS 4.1 :) (I use it on Linux, too, though, and it's almost identical.) Look at the message-ID's. Ones that contain 'PINE.SOL' are running on Solaris (yes, it's funny), ones that contain 'PINE.GSO' are running on Solaris and are compiled with gcc, ones that contain 'PINE.LNX' are running on Linux, etc. > I can't make > a good judgment on Pine, as I always declined to use it. From your postings, > i deduced you don't really favor windows, but for some applications (like > e-mail) I think windows is the best. Except when you're using Pegasus of > course :-) Well, there are some really spiffy email clients for Linux these days. The ones I've heard people praise the most are TkRat (and its offspring Postilion), XFMail, and Mutt. Mutt is a text-based one, and TkRat and XFMail are GUIish. TkRat is at , with screenshots at . Postilion is at , with screenshots at . XFMail is at , with several screenshots at different URLs, like and . There are fifteen other email programs for Linux listed at . Some are spamfilters, some are user-agents (like Pegasus and the other programs I've listed), some are mail server software, some are other things. Me, I'm just lazy. Once I had a working and reasonably-nice mail user-agent, I didn't bother to change it. This is way off the topic of fractint, though. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Video card/mode Date: 01 May 1998 14:33:21 -0400 Hi Janet, >> Since installing SDD, the vsa2cfg program recognizes many more modes >> for my card and I have entered the information in fractint.cfg as >> Sylvie suggests but I still get the message that this video mode is >> not supported. >> >> Does anyone have any advice here? Would you mind emailing me your qpv.cfg and fractint.cfg files? Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: ICQ Number list Date: 01 May 1998 14:16:49 -0500 Christian Strik wrote: > > A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this > list in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for > clarity reasons. > Woule someone please tell me (and others in the dark, too) how to get the assigned ICQ numbers, how to log in to the chat rooms, etc. I have my own chat software (Sprychat, I think) which I've never used. Be interesting to talk in real time to some of you, especially now that I use breath mints. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: ICQ Number list Date: 01 May 1998 15:29:02 -0500 Bob, If you want to chat with people on ICQ, you have to have ICQ. When you install the ICQ software, it will sign you up (it's free) and assign you a number. If you know the name or e-mail address of someone, you can use the ICQ software (or the mirabilis.com web site) to search for their ICQ number. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Preslar Subject: (fractint) Apology Date: 01 May 1998 14:27:42 -0500 So sorry everyone! I meant to respond to Sylvie personally, not the list! Janet Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: gravijul4 Date: 01 May 1998 17:25:42 -0400 Angela > Now....question here.....how long can a par name be? < Fractint recognizes the first 18 characters of an image name. There is no harm in a longer name; the extra characters are simply ignored. Same with formulas. In version 20.0, a formula name greater than 18 characters will produce an error message. Another thought anent image names: Partobat, which many of us use, keys off the image name to set the file name for saving the completed image. It is therefore helpful if image names are limited to 8 characters, *especially* if the last character or characters in a group of images is an index number (e.g. abc1, abc2, abc3 ...). George Martin Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Sorry... About Mandel Date: 01 May 1998 17:40:48 -0400 Jiho wrote: >Do you ever wonder if Benoit Mandelbrot cares that we never use his full >name? Well, always never use his full name or his correct last name for >that matter. It's like calling Tim Wegner, "WEG", or Lee Skinner, "SKIN". >Wouldn't it bother you? Hey, it's his own fault if his last name doesn't conform to DOS file naming standards . Nick Grass, errr I mean... Nick Grasso Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations....... Date: 01 May 1998 23:59:53 +0100 Jerry Fox wrote: >> Do some newsreaders make it difficult to edit the quoted messages? Lots of contributors to the list seem to be unable or unwilling to 'snip' - even the bit at the end added by xmission, which we have all seen countless times. I noticed that when Paul gave the sizes of the longest 3 recent messages, one of them was 95% quote! (No names...) << You're probably referring to an e-mail message of mine. Sorry to all for the 21 kibs message. Just *forgot* to snip Turner's message. Fortunately, the reply did not not include Turner's zip file... :-) ----------- Sorry for the late response - this message was somehow still hanging around in my Drafts folder. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 23:59:47 +0100 Justin, >Christian Strik wrote: >> >> The ease of formatting my hard drive doesn't mean I ever format my harddrive >> :-) >> Christian >Hmmm... What's that have to do with sending HTML messages? If you didn't get it, I meant: although one knows *how* to change HTML to plain text, doesn't mean that one has to *change* the setting to plain text :-) >If you like Windows and are willing to work through the crashes, great. I won't >force you to switchor reformat your hard drive or anything like that. Just >because I hate Windows doesn't mean you should too. (damn e-mail... too much >room for misinterpretation in plain text... ) I'm not suffering from crashes, by the way. My WinNT 4.0 SP3 is quite stable. I've only had one crash last 3 months, and that was because of some wrong bios setting of mine. [Can't say the same of the betas of Win98 i've seen - 2&3]. >Right now, I'm still searching for the best OS. Linux has great user support >but still has things that crash or don't work quite right. Right. :-P >Guess Bill's monopoly is safe for now. :-( Hmm.. think so too. Although I prefer dos over windows over unix, I don't like microsoft's attitude towards others on the market. Yes, I copy the smiley: :-( Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) another par Date: 01 May 1998 23:59:56 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0226_01BD755D.3DE63FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 I'm still *way* behind copying and pasting pars and frms. And it looks like I won't get much further: I've seen Kathy's Godhead par, explored it, and am still exploring and = modifying it. =20 I think I give my up atheism :-) =20 I also enjoyed the visualization of Lee Skinner's Ghost of a Woolly = Mammoth. Christian ------=_NextPart_000_0226_01BD755D.3DE63FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

I'm still *way* behind copying and pasting pars and=20 frms.

And it looks like I won't get much = further:

I've seen Kathy's Godhead par, explored it, and am = still=20 exploring and modifying it.

I think I give my up atheism :-)

I also enjoyed the visualization of = Lee=20 Skinner's Ghost of a Woolly Mammoth.

Christian

------=_NextPart_000_0226_01BD755D.3DE63FB0-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Wilson" Subject: (fractint) Re: F.O.T.D. 01-05-98 (Zombie's face) Date: 01 May 1998 15:19:51 -0700 Jim Muth wrote: >Today's fractal kind of took me by surprise. It resembles a >grisly face, that much is certain. But whose face is it? May I suggest...a self-portrait, after spending too much time in fractal-land? :-) Speaking of this place...I think I found it, deep in your par, beautiful but lonely. Landscape { ; 2min at 100mhz, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zombie.par formulaname=multirot-xz-yw center-mag=+0.06539567053037956/-0.02000277456674175/957.7315/0.383 params=-45/90/0/0/0.243/0.508 float=y maxiter=32000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=yes symmetry=yaxis periodicity=10 colors=000FWO<11>T7K<25>fZo<14>tCKtBIsCK<15>cDhbDicFg<21>ofJogInfH<11>ma\ GmaGkbJ<10>Yln<4>fVQPRLH9MK9HJEBME6KD6OH7M07L48O88MH9LG9OJ9MIAQHAT6BSABQ\ ECO0CSLCQPDTTDXXE<2>STFQSFQPE<23>FpQFqQGmP<14>J0H<20>LEHLEHNGK<12>kZnrSp\ yLr<19>ZpA } John Wilson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 01 May 1998 18:48:08 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula applies the same rendering method to both the classic Mandelbrot set equation (Msets and a Julia set) and the Pokorny equation (Julia sets only). In all the pars the size factor, imag(p1), is set large enough that the rings are filled in, giving the image elements the appearance of dimpled balls or spheroids. Reducing this factor to where the balls become rings gives, in effect, a whole new rendering method. I apologize for the number of pars - I guess I got carried away. Because there are a lot of them, I've numbered them in my order of preference in case you don't want to try them all. There are many more I could have included, but I thought it best to save them for a future posting. Also, this rendering method works well with a very wide range of equations, so you'll be seeing it again in several future posts. Here's the list of pars: Mandelbrot: 1 Mardi_gras_dragon - a dragon in his festive, fruity costume 2 period8_cascade - a *very* colorful cascade 6 mandelhenge - posted before(?) with different colors 4 3D_cascade - dramatic, looks like a torpedoe attack 7 double_spiral - big, rounded spiral 9 ring_tubes_mset - Mset zoom with midget 13 loops_mset - " " " 11 cross_mset - " " " 3 period8_mset - colorful Mset zoom near period 8 bulb 12 seahorse_mset - near outer edge of Mset in Seahorse Valley Pokorny: 5 highlights - interesting - peaks are lit up 8 silky_spiral - looks smooth and silky 10 footprint_spiral - strange footprints spiral in 14 pokorny_spiral - colorful, simple spiral Paul Carlson } frm:R4_Mand_Pok {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; real(p1) = selects equation to iterate ; 1 = Mset of w = w * w + c (default) ; 2 = Julia set of w = w * w + c ; 3 = Julia set of w = 1 / (w * w + c) ; imag(p1) = a factor controlling the size of the elements ; p2 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p3) = selects color scheme ; 1 = 2 ranges, 125 colors per range (default) ; 2 = 8 ranges, 30 colors per range ; imag(p3) = number of iterations to skip ; z = bailout = range_num = iter = 0 IF (real(p1) == 2 || real(p1) == 3) ; select Mset or Julia set w = pixel ; Julia set c = p2 ELSE w = 0 ; Mset c = pixel ENDIF k = (0.5,0.5) size = imag(p1) IF (real(p3) == 2) ; select coloring scheme num_ranges = 8 colors_in_range = 30 ELSE num_ranges = 2 colors_in_range = 125 ENDIF skip = imag(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / size : ;********** select equation to iterate ************** IF (real(p1) < 3) w = w * w + c ; Mandelbrot ELSE w = 1 / (w * w + c) ; Pokorny ENDIF ;**************************************************** IF (iter > skip) dist = abs(|w - k| - 0.1) IF (dist < size) bailout = 1 ENDIF ENDIF IF (bailout) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20 } Mardi_gras_dragon {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t corners=-1.568/1.568/-1.176/1.176 params=2/0.2/0.359166203/-0.09033392599999999/2/10 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>a\ G00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } period8_cascade {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t corners=0.359167095870493/0.359167181482118/-0.09033220899\ 13761/-0.0903324222807182/0.359167229069562/-0.0903323865901351 params=1/0.2/0/0/2/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>0\ 0OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00000<13>000 } highlights {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t corners=0.71667188/0.82476722/0.2879409/0.3690124 params=3/0.4/-1.5820911/-0.0374792/1/10 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zVz<108>G0GG0GG0GG0GG0G<10>G0Gzz0<108>aG0aG0aG0aG0\ aG0<10>aG0000<3>000 } mandelhenge { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=1 corners=-0.040680397538667/-0.040680253551853/-0.67898812665\ 385/-0.67898801866374 params=1/0.2/0/0/1/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0K0zqa<123>WRFiY0<123>ZE0000<3>000 } 3D_cascade { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t corners=-0.77093087276/-0.77093084724/-0.116025147126/-0.116\ 025127986 params=1/0.1/0/0/1/100 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zW0<123>d500zz<123>0CC000<3>000 } silky_spiral { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t corners=0.066882797/0.51967506/2.1331988/2.472793 params=3/0.1/-1.46642708/-0.05290104/1/10 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0jzb<123>4E0000<3>000 } footprint_spiral { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t corners=0.554398417/0.614651883/1.5060547/1.5512448 params=3/0.1/-1.2779375/-0.0597552/1/10 float=y maxiter=500 inside=1000 outside=summ colors=000z88<123>O00zqa<123>WRF00000000M000000 } pokorny_spiral { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=1 corners=-0.85994489/-0.71845279/0.20748351/0.31360258 params=3/0.5/-1.72/0.026666666/2/10 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08\ z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG0000<13>000 } double_spiral { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=1 corners=-1.269581672899/-1.26957485457/0.06222024394185/0.06\ 221513019505 params=1/0.07/0/0/1/50 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0I0z88<123>O00zqa<123>WRF000<2>000kkk } ring_tubes_mset { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=1 center-mag=-1.26956651073483800/+0.06227810403290189/35744.2\ 2/1/178.298 params=1/0.07/0/0/1/50 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=ADLMov<123>HKSsF_<123>C02000<3>000 } loops_mset { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t center-mag=-0.78938339439999990/-0.16322467242700000/1.62601\ 6e+008/1/17.498 params=1/0.1/0/0/1/0 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0__0zz<123>0CCzW0<123>d50000<3>000 } cross_mset { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t center-mag=-1.39037564029000000/+0.10542908264200000/7957.76\ /1/4.999 params=1/0.1/0/0/1/0 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0__zW0<123>d500zz<123>0CC000<3>000 } period8_mset { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t center-mag=+0.35916673430729710/-0.09033314067856232/232279.\ 6/1/-149.998 params=1/0.19/0/0/2/0 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00\ zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C4000<13>000 } seahorse_mset { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t center-mag=-0.74923571829346300/+0.11550647295702510/48141.2\ 3/1/-14.998 params=1/0.1/0/0/1/40 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=IPXMov<123>HKSsF_<123>C02000<3>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) gravellipse Date: 01 May 1998 17:01:47 -0700 I guess it was inevitable - gravellipse. (This is my first formula or modification!) gravellipse { ;5-1-98 kathy roth ;variation of gravijul by Mark Christenson z = pixel, a=real(p3), b=imag(p3): w = fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 real(z) * real(z)/ a + imag(z) * imag(z)/b < 1 } ge1 { ; 5-1-98 kathy roth ; variation of frm by Mark Christenson ;palette by Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravel~1.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=recip/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=1.77636e-015/-1.77636e-015/0.1626667 params=1/0/0/0/9/1 float=y inside=111 outside=atan colors=222A62EA6IA2ME6IEAMIEQIAUMEU\ I6QE2YI2aM6YMAaQEeQAiUEiQ6eM2mQ2qU6uU\ 2yY6uYAyaEqYEmUAmYIqaMuaIyeMueQyiUqeU\ maQiaUeYQiYMeUIaUMYQIYUQaYUYYYaaaYa\ eaeieeeiiiieaeaYmeYqiauiYymaumeyqiqmim\ iemmmqqquqmyuquuuyyyquymquiqyemuim\ qeimaiqYemYiuamyUiyQeuUeqQamMaqIYmIauMey\ EayAYu6Yy2Uu6Uq2QmAUmEYqEUiAQe6Q\ i2Me6Ma2IYAMYEQaIQYMUaIUeMYiQYeUaiUYaQUY\ UUUQQQUQMQMIMMMIIIIMQMQUEMUAIQ6I\ U2EQ6EM2AIAEIEIMEEEAAA6AE26A666642A86E\ 82MC2IC6IGEMGAQKEUKAQG6UG2aK2YK6YO\ EaOAeSEiSAeO6iO2mS6qS2yW2uW6y_Au_EqWAm\ WEm_Mq_IycIucMygQugUqcQmcUe_Ui_QiW\ IeWMaSIYSMaWQYWUa_YY_aYciaceegiigeec\ aicYmgaqgYykYukayoeuoiqkemkimoqqomys\ musqywuuwyqsumsyeoyiouikmekqagmYgqaku\ YkyQgyUguUcmQcqM_mI_qMcuIcyE_uA_y2W\ y6Wu2Sq6SmAWqEWmESeASi2Oi6Oe2Ka6KYAOa\ EOYMSYISaIWiMWeQ_iU_eQWaUWYQSUUSQUO\ IQOMMKIIKMMOQIOUEKQAKU2GU6GQ2CM6CI\ AGMEGIECAACE28E68A246 } ge2 { ; 5-1-98 kathy roth ; variation of frm by Mark Christenson ;palette by Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravel~1.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=recip/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=-4.44089e-016/0/0.4621212 params=1/0/0/0/1/9 float=y inside=111 outside=atan colors=222Apy6ty2xy2uu6tu6qq2qq\ 2mm6mmAmmApqElqElmEiiEeeAeeAii6ii2ii2ee6e\ e6aa2aa2YY6YYAYYAaaEaaEYYIYYMYYMaaIaaIee\ IhiMdiMdeQ`eQ`iUXiUXeUXaQ`aQYYUX\ YUUUQUUQQQUUQUUMUUIQQIQQMMMMMMIIIII\ MMIQQMQQMUUIUUEUUEQQAQQAUU6UU2UU2QQ6Q\ Q6MM2MM2II6IIAIIAMMEMMEIIEEEEEAAAAAEE\ 6EE2EE2AA6AA666266662AA2AA6EE6EE2II\ 2MM2MM6II6IIAIIEMMEMMAQQAQQEUUEUUAUU\ 6QQ6QQ2<2>aa2aa6YY6YYAYYEaaEaaAeeAee\ EiiEiiAii6ee6ee2ii2mm2mm6qq6qq2uu2y\ x2yt6ut6upAypAylEulEqlEqpAmmAmlEmhImd\ MqdMqhIuhIyhIydMudMu`Qy`QyXUuXUqXUq`Q\ m`QmXUiXUeXUe`Qi`QidMihIeeIedMaaMaa\ IYYIYYMYYQa`QaXUYXUYTYaTYaPaYTaYTeYT\ iaPiaPeeLeeLiiHiiLeiPaePaeTYiTYmTYmP\ aqPaqTYuTYyTYyPauPauLeyLeyHiuHiqHiq\ LemLemHimDmmDqq9qqDmuDmyDmy9qu9qu5uy5\ uy1yu5yq9yq9umDumDyiHyeLyeLuiHuiHqiH\ meLmeLqaPqaPmYTmYTqYTuaPuaPy<2>Q`yQ`\ uUXuUXqUXmQ`mQ`qMdqMdmIhmIhqIhuMdu\ MdyIhyElyEluApu } ge3 { ; 5-1-98 kathy roth ; variation of frm by Mark Christenson ;palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravel~1.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=ident/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=1.77636e-015/-1.77636e-015/0.1626667 params=1/0/0/0/9/1 float=y inside=111 outside=atan colors=I8F<6>unr<7>8F8<7>lyl<7>\ 05A<7>cru<7>444<7>mmz<7>I8F<7>zmm<7>A00<7\ >zzg<7>N13<7>z_K<7>g50<7>zvn<7>I8F<7>ghl\ <7>08C<7>ata<7>A0A<7>Zrk<7>C40<7\ >zii<7>F00<7>zrc<7>N57<7>yZJ<7>c20\ <7>zaV<7>F00<7>sog<7>I8F } ge4 { ; 5-1-98 kathy roth ; variation of frm by Mark Christenson ;palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravel~1.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=recip/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=-4.44089e-016/-4.44089e-016/0.2284644 params=1/0/0/0/9/1 float=y inside=111 outside=atan decomp=256 colors=47S69T47S<30>wweyyfxxe<30>\ 1I5<30>cvcexedwe<29>7GK5EJ6FK<29>dxxfzz\ fyy<29>DCRCAPDBQ<29>ieskgtjft<27>7AU } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carolyn Subject: (fractint) Re: ICQ Number list Date: 01 May 1998 19:00:28 -0500 Bob you will find the program on the Mirabilis home page. They have the program available to download. http://www.mirabilis.com Look for the red daisy. -- Carolyn car34slmo@worldnet.att.net http://www.quiknet.com/~jilld/beadwork2.htm Jesus is the Light of the world, the Bread of life and the Salvation of your soul. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 01 May 1998 19:28:23 -0500 (CDT) My apologies again for the length of the file, as well as the flurry of formulas I've been sending. The flurry might continue for another few days - as the weather gets nicer I'll be spending less and less time at the computer and more time up in the Rocky Mountains, etc., which is why I've been dumping all this stuff on the list - you can look at the stuff at your leisure over the summer. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Blake Hyde" Subject: Re: (fractint) ICQ number Date: 01 May 1998 20:46:09 -0400 >> How many of you are on ICQ? Memememe #5411598 ~~~~Blake Hyde~~~~ bhyde@connectu.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Derbyshire Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 21:12:46 -0400 Kragen wrote: > Well, there are some really spiffy email clients for Linux these days. > The ones I've heard people praise the most are TkRat (and its offspring > Postilion), XFMail, and Mutt. Mutt is a text-based one, and TkRat and > XFMail are GUIish. XFMail? AIIIIEEE! I have seen XFMail crash 20 LANned Linux X servers! Personally witnessed it. The client hung, requiring the user to destroy the window, upon which the X session hung, bombing the X client and Windows NT (on which the X client was running). After getting the client end sorted out again, it quickly became evident that all 20 X servers had zero load averages registering and were totally incommunicado... > TkRat is at , with > screenshots at > . Is this written with that Tcl/Tk thing I keep hearing about? > XFMail is at , > with several screenshots at different URLs, like > and > . It should probably be given an ISP-independent web address merely because of infamy: http://surf.to/system/crash.html?platform=linux,winNT. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Derbyshire Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 21:16:43 -0400 [Deletia] Caveat 1: Windows NT is not all that stable especially running heavy-use server software. And it costs as much as a small Pacific island... Caveat 2: Keep an eye out for a free OS based on object oriented designs and lacking Linux stability issues coming real soon, i.e. in the next 2 years. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENRAD1 Subject: (fractint) re:what to do with... Date: 01 May 1998 22:22:06 EDT Hi fractalnauts! I've just recently worked out how to put list posts in the fracmachine and have been greatly enjoying all of your works. Amazing eyecandy, folks, thanks so much for sharing your params, tips, math info, and formulas! A while back Morgan Owens shared a couple of pars with the list to find how others would color them. I've put here a few of my dabs at them:) Hope it mails ok! ::cracking bottle of champagne on mailbox for maiden pars:: Renrad1 Renrad1@aol.com nukespre_d98 { ; Fractal by Morgan Owens; coloring by Renrad1 ; copyright p.m.spencer April 30, 1998 ; colored_pencil style map ; love the 'hedgehog look' hard to work around the ctr flat, though. reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t center-mag=-3.33067e-016/2.22045e-016/2.73224 params=0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0 colors=555zzs<27>zz0000000zzu<26>3Fy0Dz000444zzu<28>S05222111\ zzu<28>0L0888555zzu<27>55J22H222222zzu<28>NI5333333zzu<28>zP44\ 44444zzu<28>0gf444555zzu } evthrzn_d98 { ;Morgan Owens fractal; coloring by Renrad1 ;Copyright p.m.spencer April 30, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t center-mag=-3.33067e-016/2.22045e-016/2.73224 params=0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0 colors=mml000<25>000000222<25>zuu<20>000<22>zuuCCA<15>zzlnnc\ <3>wwjzzlzzlzzlzzlzzl<19>HHDCCA00A<33>kkxmmzlly<35>22C00A000\ <32>000 } ozspray_d98 { ; Slight zoom into Morgan Owens' Working1 ; copyright p.m.spencer April 30, 1998 ; Renrad1@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t center-mag=0.00259503/0.193737/9.758 params=0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0 colors=mml000<17>000000222<25>zuu<20>000<22>zuuCCA<15>\ zzlnnc<3>wwjzzlzzlzzlzzlzzl<19>HHDCCA00A<33>kkxmmzlly<35>\ 22C00A000<40>000 } fracweb_d98 { ; zoom, rotate, and skew from Morgan Owen's Working1 ; copyright p.m.spencer April 30, 1998 ; Renrad1@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t center-mag=-0.01105103268591730/+0.19464610440065960/266.3222/1/-102.5/-\ 20.472 params=0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0 colors=mml000000<26>zuu<20>000<22>zuuCCA<15>zzlnnc<3>\ wwjzzlzzlzzlzzlzzl<19>HHDCCA00A<33>kkxmmzlly<35>22C00A000<58>000 } fauxfosl2_d98 { ; Working3 rotated zoomed coloring by Renrad1 ; copyright p.m.spencer April 30, 1998 ; Renrad1@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.45322/-0.362142/2.34375/1.1386/-90 params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=000```<12>zzz<30>272050161<29>xxizzkzzk<29>kkk00P<46>\ xxyzzzyyy<35>D94000EA5FB5000<37>000111333<15>ZZZ } fauxfosl3_d98 { ; Working3 rotated zoomed coloring by Renrad1 ; copyright p.m.spencer April 30, 1998 ; Renrad1@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.295328/-0.287951/7.306039/0.7054/173.404/-1.929 params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 viewwindows=1/0.6/yes/0/0 colors=000WWW<3>000A83<20>wwozzrzzr<5>zzqzzqzzqzzpzzozznzzl\ <25>332000000000000<2>10920C20D<26>40z<23>10W10U10T00R00I00\ 9000<77>000<13>zzz<26>zzz<2>ccc } frm:lambdafroth4m(XYAxis){ bailout=(4*(|p2|<=0)+p2) z=lambda=pixel: z=lambda*z-lambda/z z=lambda*z-lambda*fn1(fn2(z)) |z|<=bailout} } frm:Uc03{; = 2z(2z-1)U02-U01 ;Prerelease 16/04/1998 t=p1,bailout=4,z=pixel: x=real(z),y=imag(z) ax=4*x-2,ay=4*y-2 Tx=fn1(ax*(ax*ax-2)) Ty=fn1(ay*(ay*ay-2)) x=x-t*Ty,y=y+t*Tx z=x+flip(y) |z|<=bailout} Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 01 May 1998 22:38:44 -0400 Irony of the year! Paul Carlson, who was kind enough to send us 14 absolutely wonderful pars and a formula, _apologized_ twice for the lenght of his post!!!!! And the fellow who has loaded us down with a megabyte of crap? Well, we have yet to hear from him! Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 20:14:22 -0700 There are other reasons not to send HTML formatted stuff, even if everyone's mail client can handle it. The main reason, to me, is bandwidth......all that cute html stuff turns into a bigger file.....and into a huge file if "all the richness of the web" (the Netscape hype for html mail) is incorporated into the email. <> I've often wanted to strangle html mail-ee's BECAUSE I COULD read their dratted messages.....it is similar to getting that 857K file we all complained about. Graphics take up a LOT of bandwidth <> which the html mailers conveniently forget. So....with our current 15K+ email limit.....a lot of html mail would not make it to this list. Wait.....maybe that's a good idea!@!!!! If the html mailer got bounce-o-post I'd love it!!!! Serve em right for cluttering up the net. Angela Kragen wrote: > > On Fri, 1 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > > Thanx, but what I actually meant was how to keep sending HTML without the > > plain text part. Maybe this isn't possible, but I guess the plain text is > > only included for compatibility reasons, which I want to disable. (To this > > list I will send only messages formatted in plain text though; I've read > > some of the members are using very old - this is an understatement - mail > > readers). > > Even fairly recent mailreaders don't necessarily support HTML, you know. > > My mailreader is Pine 3.96, dated 28 February 1997, and it doesn't > support HTML. > > Kragen > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Anyone porting Fractint for Windows NT Date: 01 May 1998 20:18:27 -0700 Nick.... I'd absolutely agree had I seen an appology from Turner to the list....but I must have missed it. Nor has he sent me a personal apology even though I replied within an hour of his posting. Anyone else hear from him? If not, I'm going to assume he isn't any too contrite. Angela > > Well, I, for one, am willing to forgive him, if he did this out of naivete > and not maliciousness. Actually, if you are a new computer user and your > company has always had T1 access, this is an easy mistake to make. For > example, when I first saw his message and the attachment, I did not give it > a second thought. For our system, a 1Mb attachment is nothing. Of course > the firestorm of protest that followed is certainly justifiable. But > (again, assuming he just made a mistake), he must feel bad enough already. > > Just my 00000010 cents. > > Nick > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 01 May 1998 20:29:03 -0700 Gedeon..... yes....well....hmmmmm....but Paul has both talent and savoir faire.....it's always nice dealing with a gentleman. Angela Gedeon Peteri wrote: > > Irony of the year! Paul Carlson, who was kind enough to send us 14 > absolutely wonderful pars and a formula, _apologized_ twice for the lenght > of his post!!!!! And the fellow who has loaded us down with a megabyte of > crap? Well, we have yet to hear from him! > > Gedeon > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 01 May 1998 23:40:01 -0400 Angela Wilczynski wrote: > Gedeon..... > > yes....well....hmmmmm....but Paul has both talent and savoir faire.....it's > always nice dealing with a gentleman. Exactly my sentiment too! And with a lady. Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 02 May 1998 00:08:13 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 1 May 1998, Paul Derbyshire wrote: > I have seen XFMail crash 20 LANned Linux X servers! Impressive! I think you mean '20 LANned Linux servers running X clients'. Presumably they were not all running a single instance of XFmail, though, since normally such programs run on only one machine at a time. I'm really rather puzzled about what might have caused this fault to propagate... what version of Linux was it? > hung, bombing the X client and Windows NT (on which the X client was running). 'X client' is something like XFmail, xterm, what have you, that uses the facilities provided by the 'X server' -- namely, access to keystrokes and screen graphics. So the server runs on your desktop, and the client runs in the data center. Weird. > > TkRat is at , with > > screenshots at > > . > > Is this written with that Tcl/Tk thing I keep hearing about? Yep. BTW, you can get Tcl/Tk (with great docs and lots of examples) for Win32 and the Mac; I think www.scriptics.com or sunscript.sun.com might be good places to start. It's *great*. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Got a new printer Date: 01 May 1998 19:50:11 -1000 I like www.pricewatch.com. Actually, HI's pretty good for computer prices right now - we have Computer City and Circuit City busy undercutting each others' prices as they get established, plus another big one scheduled to arrive in a few months (August, I think). That's three big retailers on an island that has only about 850,000 total population. Plus we have a local shop doing a fine job at http://www.byteware.com . Unfortunately, the computer budget for the first six months has been spent already, and the next six months has been commandeered by a dead transmission. On 1 May 98 at 10:42, Kragen wrote: > On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Angela Wilczynski wrote: > > A note on shopping.......I found that the absolute rock bottom prices > > were to be found on the web via ZD net and it's vendors and NOT in > > Computer Shopper. My kid didn't believe me until I did print outs for > > him. The place where we buy puter parts (Fry's here in la la land) > > will match any price one can find, so we saved $175 on my puter via my > > web shopping!!! > > Actually, you can find even lower prices at EBay or Haggle Online -- > http://www.ebay.com/aw/ and http://www.haggle.com/ -- usually used > equipment, but not all. Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond Oh bother. Beavis and Butthead have roasted Piglet. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Flexball Spirals Formula Date: 02 May 1998 01:09:51 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula applies my flexball rendering method to a spiral-generating equation. Although I designed the flexball method especially for Mset images that include midgets, it turns out that it does a nice job with spirals also. These images are brand new - made for the first time this evening. The last par, fbspirm4, is not stictly a spiral - it has a tiny midget at the center. Although this image uses my eight-range rainbow-like color map, the colors turned out quite subdued and the image looks like it has many tiny flowers in it. This image, along with fbspirm1, are my favorites of this bunch. Paul Carlson } frm:FlexBalls_R4 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; p1 = radius of center of ring (0.01 to 10) ; p2 = one half thickness of ring (0.01 to p1) ; c = pixel w = z = iter = bailout = 0 d0 = p1 + p2 d1 = 0.382683432365 * p1 d2 = 0.923879532511 * p1 dsqd = d0 * d0 + p1 * p1 - (d0 + d0) * d2 : w = c * ((w - 1)^2) / ((w + 1)^2) ; IF ((abs(cabs(w) - p1) < p2) && iter > 0) bailout = 1 wr = real(w), wi = imag(w) awr = abs(wr), awi = abs(wi) IF (awr >= awi) dist = (awr - d2) * (awr - d2) + (awi - d1) * (awi - d1) adjust = 1 ELSE dist = (awr - d1) * (awr - d1) + (awi - d2) * (awi - d2) adjust = 0 ENDIF IF (wr >= 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 1 - adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 2 + adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi < 0) range_num = 5 - adjust ELSE range_num = 6 + adjust ENDIF ratio = sqrt(dist / dsqd) z = 29 * ratio + range_num * 30 + 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1000 } fbspirm1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbr4.frm formulaname=flexballs_r4 passes=1 center-mag=-2.82474314626309600/+1.84668632926580900/895.8193\ /1/-37.499 params=0.1/0/0.01/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=0000zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z\ 88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG0000<10>000zzz000000 } fbspirm2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbr4.frm formulaname=flexballs_r4 passes=1 center-mag=-2.81660781050898400/+1.83773967258051900/4339.874\ /1/-37.499 params=0.1/0/0.0185/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCG\ Gz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08000<10>000zzz000000 } fbspirm3 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbr4.frm formulaname=flexballs_r4 passes=1 center-mag=-4.85050645044610900/+0.82642201391573340/5428.117 params=0.14/0/0.0185/0 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz\ 0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40000<13>000 } fbspirm4 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbr4.frm formulaname=flexballs_r4 passes=t center-mag=-3.62760013362999200/+1.71926806871101800/4246818 params=0.2/0/0.01/0 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000q77<9>O00c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<14>xw0zz0yw0<11\ >aG00C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00O\ SA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<12>R0BO08O00<15>z88w88t7700\ 0<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Turner W. Rentz, III" Subject: RE: (fractint) Anyone porting... Date: 02 May 1998 02:12:54 -0400 A sad footnote here is that the post to the list, is C++ source code for a new fractint program ; not one person responded to that - it was all "spam" to them. Triste. I've learned my lesson. There are close to 800 messages here and not one of them has to do with the development of software. Beauty and discipline go hand in hand, as do spam and blatant harmfulness. Posting source such as that was a mistake; one forgets that people do access the internet by modem. It must have been ghastly. I have chosen you essentially at random; if you know of anyone who sees the computer source code as something other than "spam" please let me know; we might can work together to get this code written. I believe the stone soup group still exists somewhere... -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 8:44 PM On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Paul N. Lee wrote: > Not to mention the 70 individuals on the Fractint-Digest List. Hopefully -- depending on when fractint-digest goes out -- the bombing can be prevented from reaching those folks. Kragen - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: (fractint) April Par Collection Date: 02 May 1998 11:11:27 +0100 Hi all, The Fractint List par collection for April is now available for download at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ Don't forget to update your .frm collection while you're there! BTW, a few pars posted on the 30th Apr. actually showed up on my server on 1st May, these will, of course, appear in next month's collection. Enjoy! - Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 02 May 1998 07:48:35 -0400 At 10:38 PM 01/05/98 -0400, Gedeon wrote: >...And the fellow who has loaded us down with a megabyte of >crap? Well, we have yet to hear from him! I was fortunate enough to have my email reader set to reject automatically downloading very large files so wasn't greatly inconvenienced. However, after all the mail about this item I am curious: was it good crap but just too long or was it really junk? Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 02 May 1998 07:09:47 -0500 Jack Valero wrote: > . However, after all the mail about this item > I am curious: was it good crap but just too long or was it > really junk? > I'm sure most of us on this list server can state that we had no need for it. Yes it was very long. It was a zipped file that took several minutes to download and, judging from the accompanying message, most of us would have no use for the file after it was unzipped. The accompanying message seemed to come from a fan of Art Bell's (see www.artbell.com). Big . It had a lot of gibberish pertaining to Winfract, I think. Regards, Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: ICQ Number list Date: 02 May 1998 08:11:09 -0500 Thanks to Damien and Carolyn for helping me get the ICQ program. I've installed it and, after going nearly blind reading the lengthy license agreement and agreeing to its conditions (most of which I can't remember now ), have been assigned # 11924047. Hope to meet some of you soon and talk Fractal Art shop. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 02 May 1998 06:56:41 -0700 Jack... While not a programmer myself, Turner tells us he sent code in C+ that would allow Fractint to run under NT. The last time I visited the wish list, this was probably the #1 request. And with Uncle Bill telling the world that WIN 98 is the last of the DOS products, moving our favorite fractal program to NT is essential. So....sounds like we have a potential good thing here. No broken arms and legs out there because of the big post, I hope??? Just inconvenience??? I, for one, am thrilled with the idea of being able to run Fractint under NT.....which I have at the dreaded w*rk. And I have a wish list.....a very loooooooooooooooong wish list. I also know we have lots of clever programming types on the list who probably look forward to reading all that code while subsisting off of Snickers, Coke and potato chips. Seems silly to hold a grudge. Welcome aboard Turner..... <> Angela Jack Valero wrote: > > At 10:38 PM 01/05/98 -0400, Gedeon wrote: > >...And the fellow who has loaded us down with a megabyte of > >crap? Well, we have yet to hear from him! > > I was fortunate enough to have my email reader set to reject > automatically downloading very large files so wasn't greatly > inconvenienced. However, after all the mail about this item > I am curious: was it good crap but just too long or was it > really junk? > > Regards - Jack > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?SXLpbullIE1lcmNpZXI=?=" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 02 May 1998 10:19:04 -0400 Sorry, I only showed how to do it but it was not necessary for me to send= it in Plain text format. however, I hope this one is that format: In menu format, I clicked Plain Text In Options Send Menu, I clicked Plain Text in Mail Sending Format choices. Ir=E9n=E9e Mercier -o-o-o-o-o-o-o- -----Original Message----- > > >On Fri, 1 May 1998, [iso-8859-1] Ir=E9n=E9e Mercier wrote: > >> For Outlook Express: it's easy to get text only messages and to remove MIME formatting >Then how come you sent this one in HTML? > >Please, no more! If I'm in WinDOH!s, I use Pine on the school's mail >computer, and I can barely make out what is being said in these messages. >Good thing quoting converts it to normal text... > >Justin K. > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Justin A. Kolodziej" <4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu> Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 02 May 1998 10:30:06 -0500 Bob Margolis wrote: > > Jack Valero wrote: > > > . However, after all the mail about this item > > I am curious: was it good crap but just too long or was it > > really junk? > > > > I'm sure most of us on this list server can state that we had no need > for it. > It had a lot of gibberish pertaining to > Winfract, I think. Then it should have gone to the fractdev list IMHO. After all, it is sources for a Windows NT Fractint, which most of the people on the regular Fractint list would have no use for. It might have had a chance on the Fractdev list to be a little bit useful. But still, it's too big to be submitted without advance warning at the very least. Justin K. -- I sense a great disturbance in the Source. Justin A. Kolodziej I am 4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu Marquette University is http://www.mu.edu Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Justin A. Kolodziej" <4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu> Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 02 May 1998 10:32:15 -0500 Ir=E9n=E9e Mercier wrote: >=20 > Sorry, I only showed how to do it but it was not necessary for me t= o send it > in Plain text format. >=20 > however, I hope this one is that format: >=20 > In menu format, I clicked Plain Text >=20 > In Options Send Menu, I clicked Plain Text in Mail Sending Format c= hoices. >=20 > Ir=E9n=E9e Mercier It sure is, thanks. The rest of the list, I hope, will thank you too. No hard feelings I hope. It's just that the standing rule on the lis= t is plain text only. Justin A. Kolodziej --=20 I sense a great disturbance in the Source. Justin A. Kolodziej I am 4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu Marquette University is http://www.mu.edu Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 02 May 1998 11:40:53 -0400 Angela Wilczynski wrote: > So....sounds like we have a potential good thing here. No broken arms and legs > out there because of the big post, I hope??? Just inconvenience??? > > Seems silly to hold a grudge. Welcome aboard Turner..... I am with Angela on this one. Now that we have an explanation and expressions of regret, my attitude too changes. In turn, I apologize for using the word 'crap' in this connection. I should have said 'weed' instead. As everyone knows, even a beautiful flower may be just a weed in a vegetable garden. Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Anyone porting... Date: 02 May 1998 08:46:47 -0700 At 06:56 AM 5/2/98 -0700, Wizzle wrote: >... >Seems silly to hold a grudge. Welcome aboard Turner..... I agree. However, just one more commentary on e-mail bombs and then I'll shut up. Unless I specifically request it, I NEVER want to see ANYTHING bigger than 200KB from ANYONE. A very good friend of mine (since 1971) sent a 1MB Heineken Easter post card. I chastized him mildly (only because of his privileged position) and asked him not to do it again, but forgave him because "it *was* pretty cool" (and because I have known him one score and seven years). I don't care if it's Reba and Zootie's greatest hits or nude pictures of Janet Jackson! (Okay, maybe I wouldn't mind the Janet pix ;o) ) The only two huge posts I would accept without issue would be either 1) a book of life's great secrets by God (you know, all of the good stuff he didn't reveal to the Jews, or Jesus' followers, or Mohammed, etc.) or 2) a book on how to get anything you desire by Lucifer (hey, it seems to work pretty well for politicians, CEOs, and Bill Gates!). (I know, Bill *is* Satan, right? Or is it Alan Greenspan? Or Chief "Justice" Rhenquist? Nope, must be Bill; the other two were born before Hitler ate lead.) Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: (fractint) ICQ Number list - Rev.2 Date: 02 May 1998 16:50:50 +0100 A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this list in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for clarity reasons. Added Bob Margolis, Blake Hyde & Ralph Jones. Welcome. Added Paul D's #. Michael Bell - #11379737 Paul Derbyshire - #10423848 Andrew Duhan / Felix - #10363110 Alex Dukay - #8515817 Jon Fetting - #4024153 David Forbus - #2512475 Blake Hyde - #5411598 Ralph Jones - #11903613 Paul Lee - #8804332 Bob Margolis - #11924047 Irénée Mercier - #7217822 Nhan Nguyen - #341018 Christian Strik - #11760568 Angela Wilczynski (Wizzle) - #503044 / #1205072 I selected names and numbers by looking at mail subjects. I'm not suggesting this list is complete... Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been listed here (my fault then), please mail. Christian Strik Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: RE: (fractint) Anyone porting... Date: 02 May 1998 11:31:24 -0600 Turner wrote:. > There are close to 800 messages here and not one of them > has to do with the development of software. Software development is off topic for this list, although I don't enforce that much because the list members haven't strayed onto development topics enough for it to be a problem. If anyone is interested in fractint software development, email me privately. > I believe the stone soup group still exists somewhere... We do indeed exist. We have forgiven you, but understand the reason I didn't respond was that for a couple of days I was preoccupied with dealing with the results of your attachment :-(. I received about 15 copies of it through a 14K modem. I did glance at your file. It looked like you were trying to compile Winfract. I have no interest in this because Winfract is very old, and furthermore is just as tied to 16 bit segmented memory programming as the DOS fractint. Porting efforts to Win95 should probably start with the current Xfractint version, unless you are prepared to port the assembler to a flat memory environment. But as I said, such programming arcania are off topic for this list, so if you or anyone else wants to pursue this, let me know by private email. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: F.O.T.N. 30April98 Date: 02 May 1998 09:33:39 -0700 > From: kathy roth > To: Fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Re: F.O.T.N. 30April98 > Date: Friday, May 01, 1998 10:15 AM > > >>Doctor_Mouth { ; (c) Jay Hill, 1998 > > What a great uvula! Too many fractal mouths leave > out the uvula. > Yea, pretty disgusting, come to think of it. You may find the next (May 2) FotN quite a surprise. Dr. E puts on a special dress for a special spy mission. I think she is learning some of Dr. J's tricks. But since she isn't a Mad Scientist, perhaps she will not get into trouble. Jim, I really like New Mandy Minibrot. That has a lot to explore. If Dr. E runs into Zombie's Face on her next mission, I think that would bring it to an untimely end. And thanks for the map, now we know where headquarters is. Jay Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) Ghost Julias and a bug Date: 02 May 1998 09:43:36 -0700 comment { ; commentary and pars by Bud 5/2/98 I've been playing with Kerry's Ghost formulas, and have a couple to show and a Fractint bug. Sorry about the obscure names; they're derived from a lineage coded naming scheme I was using in 1991. The palette is only my second bipolar palette, and is loosely based on a Wizzle palette (did I say "palette" often enough?) About the bug: it involves what I call "core drag", where the program encounters the interior of the set and keeps plotting interior color even though the coordinates should escape. The problem is not unique to this formula; I have encountered it in several gravijul images. It can be cleared by increasing maxiter, but only if all points are outside the set. The third image was the best result I could get - all other pass methods were even worse. I have included an edited copy of the formula, with apologies to Kerry (but I figured better than getting nicked for not including it at all). Bud } gm32j11 { ; m32j1 in ghost mode: "subtle" - (c) Bud 4/29/98 ; a L. K. Mitchell formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=ghost_jul passes=t center-mag=0/0.14358/1.82 params=-1.250996/0.016863/4/0.07000000000000001 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=200 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=G7E<6>67N47O58P<4>7DS8ET9FUAGUAGU<45>lyymzzmyz<44>CHXBGWAFV9EU9 DT\ 8CT<3>58Q57P67O<10>K7AL78M77O75P86<52>yxkyylzzmzzmyyl<53>Q87P76O77<4>H7D cyclerange=0/255 } gm32j12 { ; m32j1 in ghost mode: "bold" - (c) Bud 4/29/98 ; a L. K. Mitchell formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=ghost_jul passes=t center-mag=0/0.14358/1.82 params=-1.250996/0.016863/4/0.8 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=200 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=P76<13>67M47O58P<5>8ET9FUAGUAGU<45>lyymzzmyz<44>CHXBGWAFV9EU9DT 8C\ T<3>58Q57P67O<12>M77O75P86<54>zzmzzmyyl<53>Q87 cyclerange=0/255 } ghjp2a { ; ghjp2 in ghost mode - (c) Bud 4/29/98 ; has "core drag" bug reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=ghost_jul passes=t center-mag=5.78e-006/-8.65e-007/0.6666663 params=0.2875/0.01095/4/1 float=y maxiter=300 decomp=256 colors=G7E<7>47O<6>8ET9FUAGUAGU<45>lyymzzmyz<44>CHXBGWAFV9EU9DT8CT<3>5 8Q\ 57P67O<12>M77O75P86<54>zzmzzmyyl<53>Q87P76O77<4>H7D } frm:ghost_jul { ; Kerry Mitchell maxr=real(p2), scale=imag(p2)*pi/128 ol2=1/log(2), fac=log(0.5*log(maxr)) iter=1, zc=pixel, c=p1, background=pixel : iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+c if ((|zc|>maxr)||(iter==maxit)) smooth=(iter+ol2*(fac-log(log(cabs(zc)))))*scale angle=cos(smooth)+flip(sin(smooth)) z=background*angle if (iter==maxit) z=background endif iter=-1 endif iter>0 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: (fractint) Please, Enough about Turner's mistake! Date: 02 May 1998 11:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Please leave Turner Rentz alone! I know his mistake was painful for everyone in one way or another on this list but I don't believe he did it out of malice, just inexperience. Turner if your out there I did the same type of thing when I first joined, I posted ORGFORM.ZIP to the list and everyone took turns ripping me a new ass for the pleasure too. Stick it out, stay on the list. Any time a convenience becomes temporarily out of reach everyone wants to scream the "REBEL YELL" and start slashing at who/what ever caused the problem. I took my lumps and bear the scars but I kept going and I might have accidentally said something of a quasi-useful nature once or twice. E-Mail is a damn nice thing to have and in some cases the nature of ones work might make it a true nessessity but this is for the most part a "HOBBY" listserv, most of us don't make a dime from FRACTINT. It's something we do for fun. Yes, alot of us receive "ALL" of our E-Mail through the same E-Mail account but that's by choice to some degree (the free E-Mail for life accounts work folks, I know this because I'm using one NOW, I actually have 2 FREE accounts "AND" a regular E-Mail account with my ISP) and can in most cases be rectified by trying one of the freebie account providers. I use both Yahoo and Alta Vista accounts. They both limit your space to about 3 meg., but Still I haven't been botched as of yet including the BIG BAD file attachment. My only problem is storing the posts with Par's, MAp's & Frm's from XMISSION & Fractal-Art. They take up 3 meg in a hurry. Yahoo lets me know way ahead of time though so I can clear out any old stuff and make more room. I only keep 'em til Les St. Clair posts them in the FML files on his C-Serve site the following month. Please people, Turner most likely didn't know what would happen or did it on an impulse. He most likely feels like hell for It. That pound of flesh don't come off easily and it ain't gonna be anything he gets over any time soon either. Just trying to be a voice of reason here. Now you can all attack me again and maybe turner can run for the hills. Flame privately please. James R. McKenzie WHOOKAM88@YAHOO.COM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carolyn Subject: (fractint) Re:Fractal Chatting Date: 02 May 1998 13:13:50 -0500 Is this still going on and do you have a specfic day or everyday?? >If anyone would like to join us, Paul Carlson and I will be trying out IRC >chatting at 8PM Pacific Standard Time on the Undernet. We will be in >#fractals -- Carolyn car34slmo@worldnet.att.net http://www.quiknet.com/~jilld/beadwork2.htm Jesus is the Light of the world, the Bread of life and the Salvation of your soul. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Weldon Morgan" Subject: (fractint) Filtering images with Fractint Date: 02 May 1998 13:21:29 -0500 Part of the reason I became interested in Fractint had to do with the possibility of improving the resolution of photographic images through the use of fractel technology. As I understand it, one can use the fractel algorithm to simulate the pixel information that does not exist in the original image. Does anyone on this list have any information on this process, or can point me in the right direction Weldon Morgan Boston, MA USA wmorgans@tiac.net Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Please, Enough about Turner's mistake! Date: 02 May 1998 16:45:41 -0500 -----Original Message----- James R. McKenzie wrote: >Please leave Turner Rentz alone! > Flame privately please. > > James R. McKenzie > And I say well said James. In addition, for those of us that are perfect, let's go for a walk , on WATER. Earl Simpson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Filtering images with Fractint Date: 02 May 1998 14:55:09 -0700 At 01:21 PM 5/2/98 -0500, Weldon Morgan wrote: >... >Does anyone on this list have any information on this >process, or can point me in the right direction Probably the best place to start would be Iterated Systems, a company started by mathematician Michael Barnlsey and the DoD. They developed fractal image compression software for ? (well, you can guess) and later marketed commercial derivatives. It used to be quite pricey, but I understand prices have come down and various discounts (educational use, etc.) are available. Michael also wrote one of my favorite texts, "Fractals Everywhere", which I highly recommend to fractal fiends. I'm sure others would be interested to hear about what you discover in your search. Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) self-similarity Date: 02 May 1998 17:36:07 -0700 > From: James R. McKenzie > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (fractint) self-similarity > Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 7:40 AM > > OK, I've seen a lot self-similar areas before but this one continues to > befuddle me. All self-similar areas I have seen before, well, look > self-similar. For example a spiral. But this one doesn't look like any > spiral I've seen before. I zoomed in to about 1+e20 and have yet to see > a > minibrot at the center. If anybody else has seen something like please > enlighten me. > > full image: http://152.228.63.174/ftp_cnspace/fract186.gif > jcamp1 { ; jon camp ; http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/index.html reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=+0.2834829571632703/+0.01034503912890549/1.719957e+10 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=1024 colors=C0C5PP<60>czzczzbyy<52>1LLUF0\ <54>zzrzzrzyq<66>WI3VH2VG1UF00KK<2>1\ LL1LL2MM2NN<2>4OO } > > jon camp > valparaiso university This is a pretty self-similar pattern. If you back off to where it is no longer self similar, you can see nearby midgets easily. At the 10^10 zoom above, the midgets are like 10^-20 and hard to find. Here is my take on the backed off version and a nearby midget which you can zoom in on. Jay jcamp1-backoff { ; jon camp ; http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/index.html ; A complicated self-similar point. Nearby midgets are ; the S shaped patterns like the one 1/2 way to upper left reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=+0.28348295716327/+0.01034503912890549/1.238605e+008 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=1024 colors=C0C5PP<60>czzczzbyy<52>1LLUF0\ <54>zzrzzrzyq<65>WJ4WI3VH2VG1UF00KK<\ 2>1LL1LL2MM2NN<2>4OO } jcamp1-backoff2 { ; jon camp ; http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/index.html ; Here is a nearby midget with ; the S shaped pattern reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=+0.283482953176237/+0.01034504196108545/2.20497e+008 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=10240 colors=C0C5PP<60>czzczzbyy<52>1LLUF0\ <54>zzrzzrzyq<65>WJ4WI3VH2VG1UF00KK<\ 2>1LL1LL2MM2NN<2>4OO } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) lava_tube par Date: 02 May 1998 21:02:50 -0400 The following par is a modification of a fractal/par I came up with a while ago. It is based on one of Paul Carlson's frms' as is indicated: ============================================================================> lava_tube { ; Frm:Cosh_Rings_Mset (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 ; Par: Copyright (c) David Shanholtzer, 1998 ; color map: skydye12 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=cosh_rings_mset passes=t center-mag=-1.84013726187951500/-1.70603000000000000/48.34952/1/-17.499 params=1.16/0/8/0 float=y maxiter=2500 inside=zmag outside=summ finattract=y colors=000F1C<3>O2J<8>31a00d04f<8>0cz<7>05g00d20b<8>O2J<12>101201<8>M2HO\ 2JS2H<8>z00<8>zs0zv0zs0<7>z00<9>O2J<2>K2FI2EG2DE2BD2A<5>212000000<4>D1AF\ 1CH1DJ1FM2HO2JK2LK2N<6>30b00d04f<8>0cz<7>05g00d20b<8>O2J<13>000<4>A07C19\ D19D1AE1B<4>Y1Bb2Cf1A<4>z00<8>zs0zv0zs0<7>z00<9>O2J<13>000<5>D1A } If you do not have the .frm, I will be happy to forward it to you providing Paul Carlson has no objections. davides@pipeline.com Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Synthlab@interpath.com (Robert Shanks) Subject: Re: (fractint) Xfractint on Linux Date: 02 May 1998 20:28:27 -0500 >Fractint-List, > >Sorry for that last message, I didn't intend for it to be list-wide. > >Anyone want to see the latest in Fractint for the Macintosh? I could >enclose it in an email. haha. just kidding. no, really ;-) > No, really... no haha. I have Macs and PCs but do more design stuff on the Mac. I would love to see a Mac Fractint! What can I send you to help out?... cases of Jolt Cola? Bags of money? Dancing girls? Cheers, Robert Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Synthlab@interpath.com (Robert Shanks) Subject: (fractint) fractals n' music Date: 02 May 1998 20:41:01 -0500 For example: a majestically beautiful and complex fractal >like Kathy Roth's recent "Godhead" could appear dissolving to the final >chords of Mahler's Resurrection Symphony. Paul Carlson's "bubbly" >fractals would go well with Vivaldi bassoon concerti. And what about Dr. >J's humorous stuff? Perhaps Alban Berg's Violin Concerto, though some >would say that the latter is not funny. The gravijuls are definitely >suited to Haydn String Quartets, in my opinion. And Jim Muth's fantastic >output ranges anywhere from Bach to Shostakovich. As for my own >creations, I modestly prefer to view them silently. > >Gedeon COOL!!! now there's an idea! the next time you post a par - post what music might be good with it. Now I know everybody has different taste, but now let's not be afraid of that! I'm a musician so this clicks with me, but it would be really interesting to see where the rest of the fractal community is coming from. Cheers, Robert Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Synthlab@interpath.com (Robert Shanks) Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations....... Date: 02 May 1998 20:44:53 -0500 >Aphex Twin, Enigma, Orbital, or any other good techno band. > >Or maybe Einsturzende Neubauten for the more chaotic pieces. :) Don't forget the Shamen. RS Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) lava_tube par Date: 02 May 1998 20:47:47 -0500 (CDT) >lava_tube { ; Frm:Cosh_Rings_Mset (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 > ; Par: Copyright (c) David Shanholtzer, 1998 [snip] Nice image, David - uncluttered and dramatic. >If you do not have the .frm, I will be happy to forward it to you providing >Paul Carlson has no objections. No objections at all - that's what I post them for - to be used. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THADDAEUS PARKER Subject: (fractint) ICQ Number List--Revision Date: 03 May 1998 02:17:18 Thanks for the list, Christian. Felix has set up an ICQ fractsl group at http://groups.icq.com/group.asp?no28214 It is amazing how many people across the world have a fractal mindset! I am still working on my original pars and frms. There are so many to look at and comment on that I am running out of HDD space real fast. Especially for the small laptop that I use. Keep up the "Deep Zooming"! Cheers, Thadd. Thaddaeus Parker US Marine Guard American Embassy Cairo ICQ# 3304633 ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) gravellipse pars Date: 02 May 1998 22:31:54 -0400 Thanks to Kathy Roth we have another nice variation of the gravijul formula. Needless to say, I could not resist exploring it. Here are 10 pars. Gedeon *************************************************************** gp-gel-01 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 02, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula ; Droz8 map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=ident/log/log passes=t center-mag=4.90595/-1.55431e-015/1.196079/1/90 params=1/0/0/0/-1/1 float=y inside=111 outside=atan colors=000d``<3>jiikkkjii<4>b__aYY`WW_UUYSS<13>G00WG0\ <21>yxUzzWyyU<21>XI1WG0WG1<29>yVizWkyVh<14>WG0G00<22>\ zWG<23>G000WWGWW0WW0WW<8>kkk`gg<17>0WW\ WOO<10>kkk<18>H22G00G00<15>bZZ } gp-gel-02 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 01, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula ; Droz8 map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=ident/flip/log passes=t center-mag=-2.22045e-016/0/0.7473842 params=1/0/0/0/-1/1 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan colors=000zs_zt`zuazvczu`<30>eLA<14>pcRqdSqcR<13>fQCeP\ BdPB<14>XI8G00<19>ypE<11>YK8<26>wmJwnKvlJ<15>eLAzp0zp0\ XI5<27>yx_zy`zyazya<30>XI5sI0<26>zqZ } gp-gel-03 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 01, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula ; Color map by Ray Girvan reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=ident/exp/log passes=t center-mag=-4.44089e-015/7.77156e-016/0.3758171/1/-20 params=1/0/0/0/0.1/-0.1 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan colors=ZG5ZG5<2>bMBdODfQFhSHiUK<8>xlc<10>HDCDA9976543000\ <15>zqk<12>uaPt`Nt_LsYJsYJrXI<12>gN8fM7gN9<13>vj`xlcxkb\ <11>sXIrWGrVEqTCpTCoSC<10>aM9`M8_L8YK7YK7<14>MB4<12>n`R\ qbTsdVvgXvfW<13>pTBoR9nR9<12>`H6_H5ZG5YG5XF5<13>G6\ 3<15>tbQ<14>kPAjO8jO8<13>_H6 } gp-gel-04 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 01, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=ident/asin/cotanh passes=1 center-mag=-2.22045e-016/8.88178e-016/0.7791667 params=1/0/0/0/2/2 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan potential=255/255/0 invert=0.668449197860963/0/0 colors=000NNT<10>cdieejddi<14>JKQ00z<14>0zz<15>00z5Mf\ <21>TeuUfvTev<22>5MfFLM<14>bhj<15>FLM03g<22>`bz<22>\ 25h03g0Wz<14>00W<15>0WzFLM<14>bhj<15>FLMJKQLLS } gp-gel-05 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 01, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=exp/asin/asin passes=t center-mag=0.569579/-8.88178e-015/0.7232194/0.2028/90 params=1/0/0/0/2/1 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan colors=000aD1<6>W90V80WA1<7>iQIjSKlVNmXPoZR<2>tdY<10>\ D56923500100000000300723<12>vie<12>qUJpTHpSFoQDoQDnPC\ <12>cF2bE1cF3<13>rbVtdYtcX<11>oPCnOAnN8mL6lL6kK6<10>\ YE3XE2WD2UC1UC1<14>I30K50<11>jTLmVNoXPr_RrZQ<13>lL5k\ J3jJ3<12>X90W90V80U80T70<9>H10G00F00D00C00F00H20<13>\ pVK<14>gH4fG2fG2<5>aD1 } gp-gel-06 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 02, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=cos/log/log passes=t center-mag=4.71466/-2.22045e-015/0.3633303/1.2568/90 params=1/0/0.6666666999999999/0/1/11 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan colors=000P55<5>L55K55K55K55<2>K55UKH<3>UKHVKHVLHWL\ HWMH<2>ZNH_OH`PHaQHbQH<4>iWIjXIlYInZI<3>ucJweJyfJzh\ JziJziJzhJ<2>ucJsbJraJp`InZIlYI<5>cRHbQHaQH<2>ZNHYNH\ XMHWMHWLH<2>UKHUKHUKHUKHUKH6K6<5>6L67L67L67M78M78N7\ <4>BR8CS9CT9DUAEVAFVA<8>NeFNfFNfF<8>FXBFVAEVA<3>BR8A\ Q8AP89O89O7<2>7M77L67L66L6<5>6K6ZUK<3>ZUK_VL_VL`WLaWM\ <5>f_Pg`QhbR<3>mfUogVphXrjYskZtl_vm`xoaypbzrczsdzs\ dzrcypbxoavm`<4>ogVmfUleU<3>g`Qf_Pe_P<2>bXNaXMaWM`WL_V\ L<6>ZUKK55<4>K55L55L55M55N55<4>R55R55T55<5>_55a55b55d55\ e55f55h55j55k55l55l55k55j55h55<8>W55V55U55T55R55R55Q55 } gp-gel-07 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 02, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=sin/ident/ident passes=t center-mag=4.71466/-1.33227e-015/1.070735/1.2568/90 params=1/0/0.6666666999999999/0/1.3/11 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan invert=0.917438968984866/4.71466163633486/0 colors=000bC0aA0aA0<23>yM_zNazNbzOd<2>zPhzQjzPgzOdzNa\ <12>aA0M00<3>U01W02Y23<12>xKCzLCzNDzOEzQF<2>zMDyKCwJB\ <12>Y23W02U01<3>M006QVMQV6QV6QV<8>qejfaf<17>6QVaIN<10>\ qej<15>S38R16P04N01M00M00N01P03Q05<18>qej<19>R27Q05O03N0\ 1M00aA0bC0<14>wfLxhMyjOzlPznQ<2>ztV<4>zkOyiNwgL<14>cE1 } gp-gel-08 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 02, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=asin/sinh/flip passes=t center-mag=6.66134e-016/-1.33227e-015/0.4790338 params=1/-1/0/0/-5/0.25 float=y inside=111 outside=atan colors=000kdT<3>f_PeZOdZO<2>aWM`WL`VL_VKZUK<6>YTJJ44\ <4>J44K44K44L44M44<4>Q44Q44S44<5>Z44`44a44c44d44e44g\ 44i44j44k44k44j44i44g44<8>V44U44T44S44Q44<5>M44L44K44\ K44J44J44<3>J44TJG<3>TJGUJGUKGVKGVLG<2>YMGZNG_OG`PGaPG\ <4>hVHiWHkXHmYH<3>tbIvdIxeIzgIzhIzhIzgI<2>tbIraIq`Io_H\ mYHkXH<5>bQGaPG`PG<2>YMGXMGWLGVLGVKG<2>TJGTJGTJGTJGTJG\ 5J5<5>5K56K56K56L67L67M6<4>AQ7BR8BS8CT9DU9EU9<8>MdEMeE\ MeE<8>EWAEU9DU9<3>AQ79P79O78N78N6<2>6L66K56K55K5<5>5J5Y\ TJ<3>YTJZUKZUK_VK`VL<5>eZOf_PgaQ<3>leTnfUogWqiXrjY<3>\ xoazqbzrczrczqb<2>ul_skZrjYqiX<2>leT } gp-gel-09 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 02, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=asinh/sin/flip passes=1 center-mag=4.44089e-015/-3.55271e-015/0.237121/1/19.999 params=1/-1/0.1/0/-3/0.25 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan colors=G006m2<23>I22<26>vTTxUUyVVzWWzYYzXXzWW<28>J33I22I22\ <28>3Vx2Wz2Yz2Xz<29>H34I22I22<26>v2Tx2Uy2Vz2Wz2Yz2X<30>\ 222I22<28>3x22z22z22z2<5>5o2 } gp-gel-10 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 02, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=asinh/ident/sin passes=1 center-mag=1.1953/-0.250653/18.16189 params=1/-1/0.1/0/-3/0.25 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan colors=000<13>000W00<27>xUFzWGyVG<20>W000an<5>0qu0tw0wx0zz0zz\ <28>0fq0ep0ep0ep<46>0Og000<95>000CCCFFF } frm:gravellipse { ;5-1-98 kathy roth ;variation of gravijul by Mark Christenson z = pixel, a=real(p3), b=imag(p3): w = fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 real(z) * real(z)/ a + imag(z) * imag(z)/b < 1 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) First par Posting Date: 02 May 1998 20:12:50 -0700 > From: Fiddler (GBushta) > To: fractint > Subject: (fractint) First par Posting > Date: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 10:43 PM > > Hi, > I thought I would share a par that was working on. I've been lurking > on this list for a week and know I have a lot to learn about Fractint > before I make fractals as beautiful as the veterans. If you have any > helpful information on how I can make this picture better please say. I > may not understand right off, as I only have had Fractint for less than > 2 weeks. > Greg > AKA: Japan > > ----------------- svale01 { ; Secret Valley Japan ; Calctime 0:01:05.75 at 1024x768 on a Pentium200MMX ; Thanks to Gumbycat for the Fractint Coloring Sites ; gbushta@zapcom.net reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-1.47460035097284100/-0.00000115953043036/2922.064/1/-90 params=2.5/0 float=y maxiter=1500000000 inside=0 colors=00023b<10>Ucz<14>XXe<2>eee<9>X\ UKWSHVRFUPDTOBSM8XQ0<4>A80<8>mm0<11\ >0Z0<10>000<30>0000U0<8>0m00U0<5>0f10\ h20j20m30U0<9>0m3<2>0U2<5>8F2AC2AC2\ <18>11B00C00D00D<5>00f00k00r00z<8>00J<58>00` } > > Very nice image. I found this jewel down in the corner... I'm reminded of plants outgrowing their pots. svale01-a { ; Secret Valley (zoom in by JRH) Japan ; Calctime 0:01:05.75 at 1024x768 on a Pentium200MMX ; Thanks to Gumbycat for the Fractint Coloring Sites ; gbushta@zapcom.net reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-1.47447128661240700/-0.00008891357300310/81754.54/0.8415/37.\ 499/32.704 params=2.5/0 float=y maxiter=1500000000 inside=0 colors=00023b<10>Ucz<6>V`pFKmW_m<5>X\ Xe<2>eee<7>ZWOYVMXUKWSHVRFUPDTOBSM8X\ Q0<4>A80<3>SR0KRq<2>R`xUczUcyUbwVbvX\ h0<7>0Z0<10>000<30>0000U0<8>0m00U0<5\ >0f10h20j20m30U0<9>0m3<2>0U2<5>8F2AC\ 2AC2<18>11B00C00D00D<5>00f00k00r00z<\ 8>00J<58>00` } Jay Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) A formula and five pars Date: 02 May 1998 22:10:01 -0500 (CDT) comment { I spent some time today playing around with my rings rendering method and the equation I used yesterday for the flexball spirals. This formula and pars are the result. Notes on the pars: eqn6m01 - Nice symmetry around a midget. eqn6m02 - Colorful, chaotic, different. eqn6m03 - Parabolic(?) pattern. eqn6m04 - Island of order in a sea of chaos eqn6m05 - Abstract pattern Paul Carlson } frm:Eqn6_R4 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; real(p1) = size factor ; imag(p1) = number of iterations to skip ; real(p2) = number of color ranges ; imag(p2) = number of colors in a range ; z = w = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 c = pixel size = real(p1) skip_iters = imag(p1) num_ranges = real(p2) colors_in_range = imag(p2) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / size : w = c * ((w - 1)^2) / ((w + 1)^2) ; IF (iter > skip_iters) dist = abs(|w - k| - 0.1) IF (dist < size) bailout = 1 ENDIF ENDIF IF (bailout) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20 } eqn6m01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn6r4.frm formulaname=eqn6_r4 passes=t center-mag=-2.15511064346413800/+0.00000000000000058/3450.60\ 8/1/-90 params=0.08/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000zqa<123>WRFz88<123>O00000<3>000 } eqn6m02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn6r4.frm formulaname=eqn6_r4 passes=t center-mag=-0.20853961584102130/+0.95807796299146630/1236.69\ 6/1/52.499 params=0.08/20/8/30 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG0\ 0zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } eqn6m03 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn6r4.frm formulaname=eqn6_r4 passes=1 center-mag=+0.40677900000000000/+0.00000000000000010/49.5314\ 7/1/-90 params=0.12/10/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000zzz<123>OOOzVz<123>C0C000<3>000 } eqn6m04 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn6r4.frm formulaname=eqn6_r4 passes=t center-mag=+0.39850164017763030/+0.07933871102330729/299.771\ 8/1/169 params=0.098/20/2/125 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } eqn6m05 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn6r4.frm formulaname=eqn6_r4 passes=1 center-mag=-4.5394/9.99201e-016/1.961852/1/-90 params=0.09/11/8/30 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C4\ 0zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Derbyshire Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 02 May 1998 23:25:21 -0400 Kragen wrote: > Impressive! > > I think you mean '20 LANned Linux servers running X clients'. No, there are 20 X servers, for connecting and doing work. Generally users pick the one with the lowest load and log on with an X client. > Presumably they were not all running a single instance of XFmail, > though, since normally such programs run on only one machine at a > time. I'm really rather puzzled about what might have caused this > fault to propagate... what version of Linux was it? Haven't a clue, the university computer science department runs it, not I. Anyways, XFMail bombed, it must have done something really BAD to the X server I had logged onto, because apparently it took the whole thing down... > > hung, bombing the X client and Windows NT (on which the X client was running). > > 'X client' is something like XFmail, xterm, what have you, that uses > the facilities provided by the 'X server' -- namely, access to > keystrokes and screen graphics. So the server runs on your desktop, > and the client runs in the data center. Weird. I was referring here to the client program used to log on the X server machine and run programs remotely on it, which presents the GUI locally and accepts your input... seems there's some mixup of terminology because there are 2 kinds of client... This was XWin32, the other client the XFMail program, and the X server and XFMail running on one of 20 linked X machines... > > Is [TkRat] written with that Tcl/Tk thing I keep hearing about? > Yep. BTW, you can get Tcl/Tk (with great docs and lots of examples) > for Win32 and the Mac; I think www.scriptics.com or sunscript.sun.com > might be good places to start. It's *great*. What is it, exactly? -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) April Par Collection Date: 02 May 1998 21:03:34 -0700 Les... Thanks once more for this great service. I decided to dump my monthly pars and stick to yours since they are more complete. Angela Les St Clair wrote: > > Hi all, > > The Fractint List par collection for April is now available for download at: > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ > > Don't forget to update your .frm collection while you're there! > > BTW, a few pars posted on the 30th Apr. actually showed up on my server on 1st > May, these will, of course, appear in next month's collection. > > Enjoy! > > - Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Felix Subject: Re: (fractint) ICQ Number list - Rev.2 Date: 02 May 1998 22:53:53 -0500 Christian Strik wrote: > A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this list > in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for clarity reasons. ...... Thanks so much for this. For those of you who are using ICQ, please check the Fractint ICQ intrest group I set up. Intrest groups are a way of "gathering" ICQ users with a common intrest so that others may find them. the URL is - http://groups.icq.com/group.asp?no=28214 - and the page, while functional, is incomplete thanks to some javascript woes I'm working through. It'll be nice and pretty as soon as I get through it all. Please join if yr so motivated, and enable others who are interested to find you and Fractint. (we all gotta start somewhere...) --Andrew -- | Andrew Duhan | Cereal is g00d | | aduhan@ttu.edu | ICQ 10363110 | | http://chimera.acs.ttu.edu/~aduhan/ | Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Fractal Chatting Date: 02 May 1998 21:10:19 -0700 You are invited to try IRC chatting tomorrow. Time: 10AM pacific daylight time (1PM EDT) Place: Undernet (access via MIRC, PIRCH or other irc client) Channel: #fractals If you don't have an irc client, you can download MIRC at http://www.mirc.co.uk/ It is very very very easy to install and use and I'd be glad to help if you have questions. Email me direct at wizzle@beachnet.com Angela Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Wilson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 02 May 1998 22:58:19 -0700 Paul Carlson wrote; >This formula applies the same rendering method to both the >classic Mandelbrot set equation (Msets and a Julia set) and >the Pokorny equation (Julia sets only). In all the pars >the size factor, imag(p1), is set large enough that the rings >are filled in, giving the image elements the appearance of >dimpled balls or spheroids. Reducing this factor to where the >balls become rings gives, in effect, a whole new rendering >method. It appears, to this fractal newbie, that a minimalist color rendering is very fashionable at this point in time. The technique produces gorgeous metallic-looking objects, that impress the heck out of me, but they lack warmth...beautiful baubles of gold, copper, bronze, silver and pewter. "Mardi_gras_dragon" seems to me to to avoid this coldness by throwing in splashes of scarlet. It's one I'll keep, especially as it kept my P-166 busy for about an hour! Thanks Paul: but "dragon"? When I saw all those pseudopods, I was reminded irresistably of the Beatles song..."Octopussies Garden". :-) John Wilson. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)GeneralQ?VideoMode Date: 03 May 1998 04:02:36 EDT Greetings: I've been enjoying the pars that I've seen. Great work! Q: Is it possible to tell fractint 'not' to ask for a video mode selection { after initially makeing one} when looking at a series of .gifs? {It seems once would be enough if they were all intended to be seen in in the same mode.} I'm using SF6. thanks ~~~^~~~^~~~^ Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HGtotheG Subject: (fractint) req. info: programmers Date: 03 May 1998 04:58:02 EDT Help! I am looking for a specific modification to the 3D portion of Fractint for an experiment. Anyone out there think they might like to help me or know of anyone, or anyplace, I might contact for help?? Walt / Hitchhikers Guide to the Galixy Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint) April Par Collection Date: 03 May 1998 09:02:44 +0100 Hi Angela, >I decided to dump my monthly pars and >stick to yours since they are more complete. Thanks for the feedback. As long as people find this useful I'll continue to post the collections. I haven't compared my collection with everything in the official monthly archive, so If anyone notices any omissions I'll be glad to attach an addendum to next month's file. cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint)GeneralQ?VideoMode Date: 03 May 1998 10:36:18 +0100 Hi Steve, >Q: Is it possible to tell fractint 'not' to ask for a video mode selection { >after initially makeing one} when looking at a series of .gifs? Sure, just add the following line to your sstools.ini file: askvideo=no All kinds of other useful info can be found in the Fractint on-line help files: When running Fractint press F1 twice (to get to the Main Help Index) Then select "Startup Parameters, Parameter Files" Go to the option "Summary of all Parameters" Here you will find 12 pages of useful information detailing all of the handy parameters for configuring Fractint exactly the way you want it! Page 8 has all the stuff related specifically to Video parameters. cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: (fractint) ICQ Number list - Rev.3 Date: 03 May 1998 14:29:08 +0100 A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this list in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for clarity reasons. If you're not a member of ICQ yet, and are interested in becoming one, visit http://www.mirabilis.com, where you can download the software. After having installed the software, follow the instructions in the program to be assigned an ICQ number. Felix aka Xilef has opened the ICQ Fractint Interest Group. This group can be contacted at http://groups.icq.com/group.asp?no=28214 This list was last updated Sunday May 3rd, 14:19 GMT+1 (CET). Added Luis Ricardo Costa & Thaddaeus Parker. Welcome. Michael Bell - #11379737 - 'Mike' on ICQ Fractint Group Luis Ricardo Costa - #4111347 - 'Spielberg' on ICQ Fractint Group Paul Derbyshire - #10423848 - 'Kydaimon' on ICQ Fractint Group Andrew Duhan / Felix - #10363110 - 'Xilef' on ICQ Fractint Group (Master) Alex Dukay - #8515817 Jon Fetting - #4024153 David Forbus - #2512475 Blake Hyde - #5411598 Ralph Jones - #11903613 Paul Lee - #8804332 Bob Margolis - #11924047 Irénée Mercier - #7217822 Nhan Nguyen - #341018 Thaddaeus Parker - #3304633 - 'FractalMan' on ICQ Fractint Group Christian Strik - #11760568 - 'Meltdown' on ICQ Fractint Group Angela Wilczynski (Wizzle) - #503044 / #1205072 I selected names and numbers by looking at mail subjects. I'm not suggesting this list is complete... Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been listed here (my fault then), please mail. You can also mail if you're a new member of the ICQ Fractint Group (see above). This saves me some time finding out names and numbers. :-) Thanx in advance, Christian Strik Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) April Par Collection Date: 03 May 1998 08:55:44 EDT In a message dated 98-05-03 05:29:11 EDT, you write: << >I decided to dump my monthly pars and >stick to yours since they are more complete. >> Same... what Angela said!...plus...frms too! Great page Les. Thank you. And...thanks for the tip on sstools.ini. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Bell Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal Chatting Date: 03 May 1998 14:24:49 +0100 Angela Wilczynski wrote: > > You are invited to try IRC chatting tomorrow. > > Time: 10AM pacific daylight time (1PM EDT) > Place: Undernet (access via MIRC, PIRCH or other irc client) > Channel: #fractals > Hi - could someone tell me what time that is BST (British Summer Time)? Hope to see you there. Michael. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal Chatting Date: 03 May 1998 08:55:10 -0500 Michael Bell wrote: > > Angela Wilczynski wrote: > > > > You are invited to try IRC chatting tomorrow. > > > > Time: 10AM pacific daylight time (1PM EDT) > > Place: Undernet (access via MIRC, PIRCH or other irc client) > > Channel: #fractals > > > > Hi - could someone tell me what time that is BST (British Summer Time)? > 1 p.m. EDT is 6 p.m. BST in London (and 7 p.m. in Paris). Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 03 May 1998 09:24:11 -0500 (CDT) John... >It appears, to this fractal newbie, that a minimalist color rendering >is very fashionable at this point in time. The technique produces >gorgeous metallic-looking objects, that impress the heck out of me, >but they lack warmth The methods I use emphasize form over color. All the fractal elements have well-defined edges. I'm sure it's not for everybody. > "Mardi_gras_dragon" seems to me to to >avoid this coldness by throwing in splashes of scarlet. It's one I'll >keep, especially as it kept my P-166 busy for about an hour! At what resolution? Using my 60 Mhz Pentium it took 4 minutes to generate a 1024x768 image. >Thanks Paul: but "dragon"? When I saw all those pseudopods, >I was reminded irresistably of the Beatles song..."Octopussies >Garden". Hmmmm... I think we're talking about two different images. Mardi_gras_dragon was (I hope!) a classic period-8 dragon that looked decorated with fruit of 8 colors. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: RE: (fractint) lava_tube par Date: 03 May 1998 07:46:28 -0400 I was playing with the same frm recently. Here's the outcome: Elusive_butterfly { ; Frm:Cosh_Rings_Mset (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 ; droz60.map ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=Cosh_Rings_Mset passes=t center-mag=-1.57654/-0.0055628/0.501461/-1.3129/270 params=1/2/6/4 float=y maxiter=2500 inside=zmag outside=summ finattract=y colors=07C07J<9>012000100<51>x10z20z50<14>xz0<13>wxl<14>000D8t00060t000D\ 1m000K2f000R2_000Z3T000e4L000l5E000s57000z60000u60000p50000k50000f40000a\ 40000X30000<15>000BuB0009qH0006nN0003kT0000gZ0000Ye0000Nk0000Eq00003x000\ 60t000E0l000M0d000U0X000b0O000j0G000r08000z00000z60000zE0HHHzM0GGGzU0FFF\ za0EEEzi0DDDzq0CCC<15>444BuB3339qH2226nN1113kT0000gZ000Kcc0008HH0006CC00\ 00Hi<14>08L } > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of davides > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 1998 9:03 PM > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) lava_tube par > The following par is a modification of a fractal/par I came up with a while ago. It is based on one of Paul Carlson's frms' as is indicated: =================================================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal Chatting Date: 03 May 1998 08:08:26 -0700 Michael... I think that is 6pm in London, assuming you folks set your clocks forward for summer time like we do for daylight savings time. Angela Michael Bell wrote: > > Angela Wilczynski wrote: > > > > You are invited to try IRC chatting tomorrow. > > > > Time: 10AM pacific daylight time (1PM EDT) > > Place: Undernet (access via MIRC, PIRCH or other irc client) > > Channel: #fractals > > > > Hi - could someone tell me what time that is BST (British Summer Time)? > > Hope to see you there. > > Michael. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) Bill's SpiderM Goblin par Date: 03 May 1998 08:13:10 -0700 > This result of exploring the SpiderM (J.P.Louvet) formula is the first time > anyone has called one of my fractals 'icky'. I used it as wallpaper for a > few days and noticed that most folks backed away from the screen whan they > saw it. The color map is gallet09.map. > > Bill D. > > goblin [snip] > frm:spiderM {; by Jean-Pierre Louvet z=pixel,f=pixel,g=pixel: f=f/p1+z, z=fn1(z^(p2+g))+fn2(f), |z| <= 4 } And there is another nearby - looks more like a bird face. Jay goblin-2 { ; inspired by Bill Decker wdecker@csc.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=apr98.par formulaname=spiderm function=cosxx/recip center-mag=-1.28541/-0.0135284/3.311258/1/-90 params=1.8/0/2/0 float=y potential=255/500/0 colors=wvy<10>npqmopmopmop<7>gkjfjieihdhgcgf<4>ZdbZdbYcaYcaXb`<2>VaZU`YU\ `YU`Y<11>OVSOVSOVSOVSOVS<69>000wwc<21>j`DiZBiZB<13>aM2`L1`L1`K1<9>WF3WE3\ WD3WC3VB4<6>S75R66R66R66<24>L11K11K11J11J11<32>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 03 May 1998 08:26:01 -0700 John... I'm definetly a color medium to minimalist, but I've been trying out some of the new color maps folks on this list submitted and you might find something there to suit. Check in the mid-tones section for maps from skydye and droz.....I was enchanted with some lovely maps which used very warm colors. And I don't see anything wrong with re-coloring someone's par .......gives a you better idea of why the colors chosen were chosen. Course you can't claim the par as your very own. One hint....Paul Carlson, Sylvie Gallet and Kerry Mitchell often use their colors in a very precise way.....to match the parameters of their formulas. Study those maps!!! It took me a while to figure out why Paul did what he does. At first I just modified his maps with my favorite colors. Now I'm more bold and will even change the "structure" of the colors......going, say from 2 colors....which Paul so often uses......to 4. The new color maps are available at: http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/graphic_hints.htm I hope to be converting the existing pars there to a newer format by this evening (thanks to some lessons from Tim), so hold off a day on downloading the par versions. BTW......Marie... Thanks so much for the great color maps. I was experimentint with the ones you submitted this morning with wonderful results. Angela Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote: > > John... > > >It appears, to this fractal newbie, that a minimalist color rendering > >is very fashionable at this point in time. The technique produces > >gorgeous metallic-looking objects, that impress the heck out of me, > >but they lack warmth > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Kosokar Subject: (fractint) What do I do? Date: 03 May 1998 10:11:15 -0500 Can someone answer me via private Email? What do I do with the FRM part of the posts? Can I leave them in the PAR when I clip and save it, and will they be found there? I have tried clipping just the FRM part and saving it with a .FRM extension, but it doesn't seen to be working. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! TIA, Dave Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Justin A. Kolodziej" <4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu> Subject: Re: (fractint) fractals n' music Date: 03 May 1998 10:53:59 -0500 Robert Shanks wrote: > COOL!!! now there's an idea! the next time you post a par - post what > music might be good with it. Now I know everybody has different taste, but > now let's not be afraid of that! I'm a musician so this clicks with me, > but it would be really interesting to see where the rest of the fractal > community is coming from. > > Cheers, Robert OK, you asked for it. Here's a par best viewed to John Cage's 4'33". minimalist { reset=1960 type=mandel passes=t center-mag=-0.29770327756838355/+0.28711986898800751/111.1985 params=0/0 float=y inside=0 colors=@royal.map } Enjoy! Justin K. -- I sense a great disturbance in the Source. Justin A. Kolodziej I am 4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu Marquette University is http://www.mu.edu Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Hine" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractals n' music Date: 03 May 1998 12:25:54 -0400 Justin K. said: >OK, you asked for it. Here's a par best viewed to John Cage's 4'33". I tried it, and it didn't seem right, but then I noticed that the monitor wasn't turned on. So I turned it on, and that was better, but something still wasn't right... then I noticed that my tape deck was unplugged. After a few more minutes of rearranging wires, dimming the room lights, etc., I was ready, and gave it another whirl. Perfect! (I think the power went out briefly during the performance, but I can't be sure.) Very Zen - Thanks Justin! ^2 Jason Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) tchebych.frm Date: 03 May 1998 13:01:54 -0400 I am interested in a set of formulas named after the Russian mathematician Tchebychev, though why that choice of a name, I do not know. There is a formula file named tchebych.frm in the fracxtr6.zip file available from Spanky. In the comment of this file these formulas are identified as being derived from a book by Roger Stevens (Advanced Fractal Programming in C). The file was originally posted on Feb. 10, 1992 by Rob den Braasem. However, at a later time someone modified some of these formulas, and, unfortunately, reissued these modifications with the same formula names in a new file called newtcheb.frm. All of these latter formulas are included in the Orgform compilation under _j_dup.frm and _m_dup.frm respectively. The source identified therein is newtcheb.frm. I have not been able to find the latter anywhere. If someone has this formula file (newtcheb.frm) in its original form, hopefully including comments, not reconstructed from Orgform, I would greatly appreciate it if that person could email it to me privately. Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) April Par Collection Date: 03 May 1998 13:01:17 -0400 At 09:02 AM 5/3/1998 +0100, you wrote: (snipped) >As long as people find this useful I'll continue to post the collections. Verrrrry useful! But how am I supposed to explain an uncluttered mailbox and desktop after d/l and saving to a floppy? davides@pipeline.com Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: RE: (fractint) lava_tube par Date: 03 May 1998 13:36:46 -0400 At 07:46 AM 5/3/1998 -0400, you wrote: Just out of curiosity I would be interested in your opinion of the following changes to "Elusive...": [Z]: RPI= .675 IPI= 2 RP2= 9 IP2= 4 [X]: Maxiter=5000 [Y]: finattract=1 slope=254 bailout=2000 centerx=4 I like you elusive. PC's frms are something else to work with, aren't they? I was playing with the same frm recently. Here's the outcome: > > >Elusive_butterfly { ; Frm:Cosh_Rings_Mset (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 > ; droz60.map > ; > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm > formulaname=Cosh_Rings_Mset passes=t > center-mag=-1.57654/-0.0055628/0.501461/-1.3129/270 params=1/2/6/4 > float=y maxiter=2500 inside=zmag outside=summ finattract=y davides@pipeline.com Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: tchebych.frm Date: 03 May 1998 13:22:15 -0500 Gedeon Peteri wrote: > > I am interested in a set of formulas named after the Russian > mathematician Tchebychev, though why that choice of a name, I do not > know. There is a formula file named tchebych.frm in the fracxtr6.zip > file available from Spanky. In the comment of this file these formulas > are identified as being derived from a book by Roger Stevens (Advanced > Fractal Programming in C). The file was originally posted on Feb. 10, > 1992 by Rob den Braasem. Hi Team Fractals: I privately sent Gedeon this afternoon the original file that was posted to the USENET on Feb. 10, 1992. Therefore, the search is over and you may return to normal duties. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) What do I do? Date: 03 May 1998 11:20:15 -0700 David wrote: >Can someone answer me via private Email? What do I do with the FRM part >of the posts? Can I leave them in the PAR when I clip and save it, and >will they be found there? I have tried clipping just the FRM part and >saving it with a .FRM extension, but it doesn't seen to be working. Any >help would be greatly appreciated!!! Hi, David! I think this is an on topic posting that might interest some other newbies. So answering it on the list is ok. You can keep the formula part and the .par part together in one par file if you are using Fractint v 19.6 and if you leave the: frm: at the beginning of the formula part of the two. Using one of Jim's FOTD files, for example: ========================== Tsatratpa_MaiKai { ; 13min at 100mhz, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 passes=t center-mag=+0.25553692990429950/-0.0000000000001/1463198 params=1/100/0.1/-2 float=y maxiter=1200 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=92 symmetry=xaxis periodicity=10 colors=00075D<3>B98CAD<6>KBk<18>mTIoUGoRC<9>ttYtw_sz`<8\ >tsatratpa<9>t_btYbtZb<9>ZkcXlcVlc<11>6oc<17>hGXqAV<6>B\ _f1`i<8>XpV<17>PK7<21>tc_<17>kfimgh<13>MaiKaiGcj<20>lIT\ iHXeGad9p`AsXBw<10>bIfbIg<9>bITbIRdJNbIQ } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth c=pixel, a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j: z=(a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f))+c, |z| <= 100 } =============================== can be cut as one piece of information and pasted into a .par file. Yes, the formula will be "found." Or, again using Jim's FOTD: =============================== Tsatratpa_MaiKai { ; 13min at 100mhz, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 passes=t center-mag=+0.25553692990429950/-0.0000000000001/1463198 params=1/100/0.1/-2 float=y maxiter=1200 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=92 symmetry=xaxis periodicity=10 colors=00075D<3>B98CAD<6>KBk<18>mTIoUGoRC<9>ttYtw_sz`<8\ >tsatratpa<9>t_btYbtZb<9>ZkcXlcVlc<11>6oc<17>hGXqAV<6>B\ _f1`i<8>XpV<17>PK7<21>tc_<17>kfimgh<13>MaiKaiGcj<20>lIT\ iHXeGad9p`AsXBw<10>bIfbIg<9>bITbIRdJNbIQ } =============================== can be cut and pasted by itself into a .par file and then: ================================ MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth c=pixel, a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j: z=(a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f))+c, |z| <= 100 } =============================== can be cut and pasted by itself into a separate .frm file. In this case, the formula MandelbrotMix4 should either be pasted into a .frm file named critical.frm, or, if you paste it into a .frm file named something else, then the field "formulafile=critical.frm" should be changed to the name of the .frm file you are using. For example, you might use "formulafile=JimMuth.frm" Make sense? If not, let us know and we'll try again! Linda Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: (fractint) Par from a Paul Carlson formula Date: 03 May 1998 14:24:09 -0500 The best of my efforts of the past week from a great Paul Carlson's formula. Enjoy. es000016 { ; Earl Simpson 5/3/98 ; Modified Paul Carlson Par ; Paul Carlson Formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson3.frm formulaname=newt_fang_mset function=sinh/sqr passes=1 corners=3.6482253/3.62339077/-0.0161237448/0.0161807149/3.62339077/0.016\ 1807149 params=1/0/0.3/0.3/4/63 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=850479<16>SpwUszTqw<12>8FI7CE59B467234000<5>000000211<6>H8AKACLBD\ <32>xxkzzmyyl<25>KC2IA0G90D80B60630320000<2>223224224325326<22>JGTKHUKHT\ <6>GEMFDLECKDBICAH<3>97D97C86B76A759<7>111000000000<3>000<6>U05<21>xfazh\ cygb<22>U05<5>000<2>000000123256 } Frm:Newt_Fang_Mset {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; real(p1) = controls element size try 0.5 to 16 ; imag(p1) not used ; p2 = factor, try (1,0) or (0.3,0.3) ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; width = real(p1) a = fn1(pixel) am = a - 1 w = sqrt(-am / 6) z = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / width prev_mod2 = |w| : k = w * w, q = w * am w = w - (k * k + k * am - a) / (4 * w * k + q + q) angle = atan(imag(w) / real(w)) v = p2 * (fn1(angle)^2 + fn2(angle)^2) dist = abs(|w| - |v|) IF (dist < width && iter > 0) bailout = 1 z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ELSEIF (abs(|w| - prev_mod2) < 0.000001) bailout = 1 z = 252 ENDIF prev_mod2 = |w| range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 10000000 } Earl Simpson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: RE: (fractint) lava_tube par Date: 03 May 1998 14:27:05 -0500 (CDT) Marie, >I was playing with the same frm recently. Here's the outcome: > > >Elusive_butterfly { ; Frm:Cosh_Rings_Mset (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 > ; droz60.map [snip] Now, that's different! Great image! Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: RE: (fractint) lava_tube par Date: 03 May 1998 15:53:44 -0400 At 01:36 PM 5/3/1998 -0400, you wrote: >Just out of curiosity ... I could swear I had sent the referenced msg direct... "I like you elusive." I presume it is understood "like" was supposed to be past tense (liked), and "you" above was intended to read: "your" PC's frms are something else to work with, aren't they? davides@pipeline.com Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: (fractint) formula syntax Date: 03 May 1998 16:46:27 -0400 Formula writers: I've just noticed that some formulas by Paul Carlson contain lines such as the following: IF ((d = |w + (0,-.5)|) < size) Putting assignments inside of other expressions is a common programming technique in C. This type of expression produces no warnings in fractint v 19.6, and the formula therefore runs and draws images without incident. There is a problem, however. The fractint parser is not designed to handle imbedded assignments, and the actual calculations being made may be quite different than what the formula writer intends. Version 20.0 will report an error for formulas with lines like this. All assignments will need to be at the beginning of a formula statement, i.e. in the form var1=var=2=...=expression. I'll work with Paul to rewrite the formulas which have these expressions now, so they'll work by the time 20.0 comes out. The two formulas where I've noticed this are Series_Balls_Mset and MyEqn_Julia. George Martin Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Yet another par Date: 03 May 1998 14:25:23 -0700 I've gotten behind what with all the great pars and formulas posted lately. Thank you Paul and Kathy!!!! I got a chance to explore your formulas just a bit today and it's been great. I certainly had a wonderful time chatting on irc today and learned a bit more about taming the windows95 beast............learned how to chat and fractal at the same time so I was able to see earl's fantastic par "live and in person." Is that a stunner or what?? Help in real time is the best, IMHO......you know....go here....do this....etc. I got an idea for a new posting too.....and would like some feedback. I've done "sets" of colormaps which are useful for adding some variety when you are exploring a particular image. I plan to post one set based on a map Linda developed and another set tailored for Paul's formulas. Does the group prefer to have a set of zipped .map files or should I bundle the maps into a par? I have Tim's new goodies so the pars will have excellent compression color-wise. And here is a par from one of Paul's formulas......so you can get a preview of the map idea.....as ever...I prefer just a bit of black to bring out a spiral. wiz_cream { ; 5/3/98 wizzle from a P. Carlson formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=f:may98.frm formulaname=flexballs_r4 center-mag=-2.81666415879057800/+1.83796604599094500/135621.1/1/-37.498 params=0.1/0/0.0185/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000fNL<14>K4A000<13>000zzc<28>K5AzKU<28>K00wUK<28>K0AGGz<28>K0KfO\ z<28>K0FKwc<28>AKKzKU<28>O00zcU<12>gOM } Angela Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) formula syntax Date: 03 May 1998 14:27:25 -0700 George.... I for one would be VERY upset if Paul's formulas didn't work with the new release......thank you so much for noticing. Angela George Martin wrote: > > Formula writers: > > I've just noticed that some formulas by Paul Carlson contain lines such as > the following: > > IF ((d = |w + (0,-.5)|) < size) > > > I'll work with Paul to rewrite the formulas which have these expressions > now, so they'll work by the time 20.0 comes out. The two formulas where > I've noticed this are Series_Balls_Mset and MyEqn_Julia. > > George Martin > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: (fractint) What do I do? Date: 03 May 1998 17:15:55 -0400 > Can someone answer me via private Email? What do I do with the FRM part of the posts? Can I leave them in the PAR when I clip and save it, and will they be found there? < This is a matter of general interest. Formulas may be included in .par files if they are preceded with the identifier prefix "frm:". The formula will be found *only* in connection with drawing an image in the .par file. It will not appear on any menu screen and will not be found when other .par files are run. It is better to copy the formula to a .frm file. The prefix frm:, if present, must be removed. The naming of the .frm file is not particularly important; fractint is very good at searching for and finding formulas, so long as the .frm files are together in the same directory. George Martin Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: RE: (fractint) lava_tube par Date: 03 May 1998 18:01:23 -0400 Believe it or not, that sailed right on over my head. I've had lots of time to play today, so have been trying frms like mad. Now, time to give your tweaks to my butterfly fractal a try. :) I wholeheartedly agree about the PC frms. Some folks are in a class by themselves. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of davides ... > PC's frms are something else to work with, aren't they? > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Wilson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 03 May 1998 15:21:08 -0700 -----Original Message----- >Hmmmm... I think we're talking about two different images. >Mardi_gras_dragon was (I hope!) a classic period-8 dragon that >looked decorated with fruit of 8 colors. > >Paul Carlson You're right, mea culpa! I was refering to your "3D_Cascade" .. In some sort of self-defense over my error, I have to point out that your announcement message listed the Pars in the order: 1, 2, 6, 4, 7, 9, 13, 11, 3, 12, 5, 8, 10 and 14. However, your par *data* was ordered; 8, 9, 7, 1, 3, 12, 6, 2, 10, 13, 5, 15, 4 and 14. Of course, I numbered my stored GIF's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14 Now try getting the correct *names* associated with the GIF's. It's quite difficult, even with the aid of a couple of stiff Martinis. :-) John Wilson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) file limit Date: 03 May 1998 17:35:01 -0600 Due to popular request, the fractint list file size limit is back to 40000 where it was originally. Quite a few people preferred the higher limit, and while at least one person thought the lower limit was good, no one wrote me that receiving a 40K file inconvenienced them. I do suggest using good judgement in uploading larger files. Damien Jones has offerred his FTP site at ftp.fractalus.com as a location to upload larger PAR and FRM files. Damien, could you let us know upload instructions? The idea is instead of uploading a large file to the list, upload it instead to Damien's site. Les St. Clair is maintaining a collection of PAR files uploaded here at his Web site, http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ Les, let us know whether or not you would accept email submission s for your site. The idea is to lower list traffic by uploading files to one of those sites, and then referring to them here rather than uploading them. However, I don't object to PAR and FRM files being uploaded to the fractint list within the 40000 byte limit if folks prefer that. Tim Wegner Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com Date: 03 May 1998 16:39:03 -0600 When your email address doesn't work, all your fractint list messages bounce to me. I generally unsubscribe addresses that aren't working after a day or so, especially when the bounced messages say "permanent fatal error". Sender: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: fractint Sometimes for one reason or another people aren't able to get their mail, and their mailbox gets full. In this case also, mail bounces to me. When this happens, I will also unsubscribe the address. If this happens to you, and you want to get back on the list, just resubscribe, or ask me to resubscribe your address. Remember that being unsubscribed from the list is just normal list maintenance, not personal rejection. :-) When the problems your address are experiencing are cleared up, I'm happy to have you back. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) formula syntax Date: 03 May 1998 18:19:48 -0500 (CDT) >I for one would be VERY upset if Paul's formulas didn't work with the new >release......thank you so much for noticing. Me too! :) Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 03 May 1998 18:24:03 -0500 (CDT) John, >Now try getting the correct *names* associated with the GIF's. It's quite >difficult, even with the aid of a couple of stiff Martinis. :-) You're right - I'll have to think of a better way. Paul Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Chatting, and a formula Date: 03 May 1998 18:27:05 -0500 (CDT) This morning there were 5 or 6 of us chatting on the #fractals channel. All of us had MIRC, Fractint, and a web browser running. We were trading pars which were run and commented on while we were chatting. Also, URLs were swapped, web pages viewed and advice given on improving web pages. Modifications to pages were made and the results viewed and commented on while we were chatting. Great fun! Join us next time (probably to be announced by Wizzle)! Here's a formula and par that I sent to the other chatters (chattees?, whatever): comment { This formula applies my flexball rendering method to a Halley's method solution of w^4 - c*w - c^4 = 0. Paul Carlson } frm:FB_Halley_M42 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; Always use float=y, outside=summ ; p1 = relaxation factor ; p2 = radius of center of ring (0.01 to 10) ; p3 = one half thickness of ring (0.01 to p2) c = pixel, c4 = c*c*c*c w = z = iter = bailout = 0 d0 = p2 + p3 d1 = 0.382683432365 * p2 d2 = 0.923879532511 * p2 dsqd = d0 * d0 + p2 * p2 - (d0 + d0) * d2 : w2 = w * w, fnc = w2 * w2 - c*w - c4, der = 4 * w * w2 - c k = p1 * fnc / (der - 12 * w2 * fnc / (der + der)) w = w - k ; IF ((abs(cabs(w) - p2) < p3) && iter > 0) bailout = 1 wr = real(w), wi = imag(w) awr = abs(wr), awi = abs(wi) IF (awr >= awi) dist = (awr - d2) * (awr - d2) + (awi - d1) * (awi - d1) adjust = 1 ELSE dist = (awr - d1) * (awr - d1) + (awi - d2) * (awi - d2) adjust = 0 ENDIF IF (wr >= 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 1 - adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 2 + adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi < 0) range_num = 5 - adjust ELSE range_num = 6 + adjust ENDIF ratio = sqrt(dist / dsqd) z = 29 * ratio + range_num * 30 + 1 ELSEIF (|k| < 0.000001) bailout = 1 z = 252 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 } fbhalm21 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbhalm42.frm formulaname=fb_halley_m42 passes=1 center-mag=-21.93283500254530000/+9.08487764353243100/61280.2\ 1/1/112.498 params=1/0/20/0/2/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<10>000zzz000000 } fbhalm22 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbhalm42.par formulaname=fb_halley_m42 passes=1 center-mag=-21.93283501457555000/+9.08487764851502900/467274.\ 2/1/112.497 params=1/0/20/0/2/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<10>000zzz000000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Yet another par Date: 03 May 1998 18:39:16 -0500 (CDT) >I certainly had a wonderful time chatting on irc today and learned >a bit more about taming the windows95 beast. Everybody there learned something! Nothing beats being able to ask questions and having them answered immediately. >Does the group prefer to have a set of zipped .map files or should >I bundle the maps into a par? I'd prefer a par. >And here is a par from one of Paul's formulas... Beautiful image, Wiz - great colors! Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) Re: tchebych frm Date: 03 May 1998 20:05:50 -0400 Thanks to George Martin and Bob Margolis I now got what I needed. Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) pars 'n' such Date: 03 May 1998 20:58:50 -0700 comment { Thanks and congratulations to Charles Crocker, who correctly identified my "core drag" problem as a side effect of periodicity=yes. I have included the corrected par. Also, more apologies to Kerry. After I posted the pars & frm, I realized I had deleted useful data! While searching for gravijuls afflicted by the problem, I ended up recoloring one of my old images with a modified Linda Allison map. I thought the original was pretty good, but the recolor is less cartoonish, more elegant. Later, Bud } ; *** pars ghjp2a { ; jp2 in ghost mode - (c) Bud 4/29/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=ghost_jul passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.7 params=0.2875/0.01095/4/1 float=y maxiter=300 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=G7E<6>67N47O58P<4>7DS8ET9FUAGUAGU<45>lyymzzmyz<44>CHXBGWAFV9EU9 DT\ 8CT<3>58Q57P67O<10>K7AL78M77O75P86<52>yxkyylzzmzzmyyl<53>Q87P76O77<4>H7D cyclerange=0/255 } gj172 { ; gj171 zoom - (c) Bud 2/16/98 reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=budz.frm formulaname=gravijul function=recip/tan/asin passes=t center-mag=0/0.716771/2.46 params=1.19/0/0/0/4/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=200 outside=atan colors=0K0<37>0u0cv0<5>ww0<13>gg0ef0de0bc0ab0<6>TV0SU0SS0SR0<16>z00<21>W\ Vz<20>1yz0zz1yz<41>x2zz0zz0y<34>yNByOAxOA<35>0K0u3Yt2Z0K0 } gj173 { ; gj172 recolor - (c) Bud 5/3/98 ; with a tweaked Linda Allison palette reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=budz.frm formulaname=gravijul function=recip/tan/asin passes=t center-mag=0/0.716771/2.46 params=1.19/0/0/0/4/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=200 outside=atan colors=800400<20>X00Y00_00a00<12>z00<25>Q00O00O11<14>`RTaTVaUWaWY<6>hhki\ jmjkoklqmmtonwkmsikohijegfcda<5>USJTQGROCPL8<2>TOBVPCXQDZSEaUG<9>xn_<13>\ TN9RL7PJ7PK8<14>nru<14>050130200<2>011011021031<2>053063063073083<3>0B50\ B50C61D7<2>4GC4HD5IE6JF7KH<5>AQNBRPAQO<5>7LH6KG5JE4ID4HB<22>1551541441 43\ 133<3>111000100200 } ; *** frms frm:ghost_jul { ; Kerry Mitchell ; ; colors Julia sets by combining the smoothed iteration ; with a background of rays from the center ; ; use decomp=256 ; p1 = Julia parameter ; real(p2) = bailout ; imag(p2) = "ghost" adjustment: set to 0 for only ; background rays, try 2 ; calculation performed on variable zc, z used for coloring ; maxr=real(p2), scale=imag(p2)*pi/128 ol2=1/log(2), fac=log(0.5*log(maxr)) iter=1, zc=pixel, c=p1, background=pixel : iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+c ; ; bailout ; compute smoothed iteration as "angle" ; multiply angle by background to get final z ; set z to background for interior points ; set "iteration done" flag (iter=-1) ; if ((|zc|>maxr)||(iter==maxit)) smooth=(iter+ol2*(fac-log(log(cabs(zc)))))*scale angle=cos(smooth)+flip(sin(smooth)) z=background*angle if (iter==maxit) z=background endif iter=-1 endif iter>0 } frm:gravijul { ; generalized r^(-2) by Mark "Bud" Christenson 1/25/98 ; defaults: p1 = (1,0) p2 = (0,0) p3 = (4,0) z = pixel: w = fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 |z| < p3 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Philip DiGiorgi" Subject: (fractint) A few pars Date: 04 May 1998 01:11:34 -0400 I enjoyed making these and thought I'd share them with you folks. They use the HyCycle_Julia formula that Paul Carlson posted a while back. Hope you folks find them interesting. Phil D phild@iinc.com -------------------------- pd-hcj01 { ; t= 0:01:28.93 (c) P. DiGiorgi - 5/98 ; Generated on a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson.frm formulaname=hycycl_julia passes=t center-mag=4.44089e-016/1.05471e-015/0.6854036/1/-44.996 params=1.15/0/0.6/0/0.1/0 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253 outside=summ colors=A0Iyol<19>wYGvXEvWDuVBuUA<4>uS3uR1uQ1<3>sO0sO0sN0s\ M0rL0<3>qJ0pI0pH0pG0pF0<3>nD0nC0mB0mA0m90<5>k50k50j40i30<\ 2>h10h00h00g00<7>d00d00c00b00<9>Z00Z00Y00X00<5>U00U00U00U\ 00U00<19>T00T00R00<8>000<5>000000110220<59>rgAshAtiBujC<1\ 0>xs`xtcxuexvhxwjyxm<14>ywtyvuyvvyvwzuy<4>zuyzuxztv<4>zon } pd-hcj02 { ; t= 0:01:10.31 (c) P. DiGiorgi - 5/98 ; Generated on a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson.frm formulaname=hycycl_julia passes=t center-mag=4.44089e-016/1.05471e-015/0.6360545/1/-44.996 params=1.4/0/1.5/0/0.05/0 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000PkN<42>882771771771<9>761761861961<37>z00cK0<9>\ ne0og0ph6<6>wrmxttxtr<20>fd3ec0db0<43>660551561561<37>z00\ NiM<11>TuTUwUUwU<11>PlO } pd-hcj08 { ; t= 0:03:57.28 (c) P. DiGiorgi - 5/98 ; Generated on a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson.frm formulaname=hycycl_julia passes=t center-mag=-2.22045e-016/4.996e-016/0.8691646/1/-45 params=0.7112000000000001/0.3200154/0.6/0/0.4/0 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253 outside=summ colors=A0FUKK<88>yyyzzzzyy<32>UKK6Ac<34>ADeAEeAEeBEeBEeBF\ f<12>HKiILiILiJMjKMjKNj<14>WXpWYqXZqY_rZ`r_`s<10>kkymlymm\ ziix<2>cdubct`as_`rY_q<18>DGfCFfBFe<4>6Ac59c6Ac6Qh6Qg } pd-hcj09 { ; t= 0:08:12.57 (c) P. DiGiorgi - 5/98 ; Generated on a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson.frm formulaname=hycycl_julia passes=t center-mag=-4.44089e-016/-1.38778e-016/0.7183908/1/-44.999 params=0.85/0/0.25/0/0.2/0 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zux<26>wYGvXEvWDuVBuUA<4>uS3uR1uQ1<3>sO0sO0sN0sM\ 0rL0<2>qK0qJ0pI0pH0pG0<3>oE0nD0nC0mB0mA0<6>k50k50j40i30<2>\ h10h00h00g00<7>d00d00c00b00<9>Z00Z00Y00X00<5>U00U00U00U00U\ 00<12>400zuy<11>ywoywnyvm<15>xrYxrXxrWwqVwqVwqV<75>NH4NH4M\ G3LF3<12>000wruzuy } pd-hcj16 { ; t= 0:02:20.82 (c) P. DiGiorgi - 5/98 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson.frm formulaname=hycycl_julia passes=t center-mag=0/1.11022e-016/0.7891157/1/-44.996 params=1.0648/0.60018/0.3/0/0.02/0 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zc0<28>sN0rM0rM0rM0<44>c40c40c40c40b40<36>L40<5>\ 000cmzajx<2>ZewYdvYcvXbvWau<5>TXsSWsSWsSVr<42>B7iB6iB5iB5i\ A5hB5i<16>80b80b80a80a80`70`<32>10M10L10L00K00H00E<3>000 } frm:HyCycl_Julia {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 z = w = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 w = pixel c = p1 i = (0,1) k = 1.2 - p3 : w = w * w, wr = real(w) w = w - wr + abs(wr) - c angle = atan(imag(w)/wr) ka = k * angle / p3 rw = k * cos(angle) + p3 * cos(ka) iw = k * sin(angle) + p3 * sin(ka) ww = rw + i * iw dist = abs(|w|-|ww|) IF (dist < p2 && iter > 1) bailout = 1 index = 125 * dist / p2 z = index + range_num * 125 + 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == 2) range_num = 0 ENDIF z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 10000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) Re the "owner-fractint" message Date: 04 May 1998 00:50:30 -0600 Folks, the message I sent out that started: > From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com > Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 16:39:03 -0600 > When your email address doesn't work, all your fractint list messages > bounce to me. etc. was sent to the whole list, not to any particular person. It got a bit garbled and several people thought it was an automatic message to them. I apologize for the confusion. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) pars 'n' such / correction Date: 03 May 1998 23:45:29 -0700 I wrote: >Thanks and congratulations to Charles Crocker... Oops, hyperactive fimbies. Make that *Crocke*. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Forbus Subject: (fractint) Are there other mailing lists? Date: 04 May 1998 03:30:59 -0500 Hello All, I'm not using Fractint, but Tiera-Zon 24 instead. Are there any other Fracal groups like this one? DLF Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Are there other mailing lists? Date: 04 May 1998 03:37:52 -0500 David Forbus wrote: > > I'm not using Fractint, but Tiera-Zon 24 instead. > Are there any other Fracal groups like this one? > Mail Listings: FRACTAL-ART, The Fractal Art Discussion List Administrator: Jon Noring Subscription Address: majordomo@aros.net (body of your email message: subscribe fractal-art) Posts: fractal-art@aros.net Description: This mailing list is open to all individuals/organizations interested in all aspects of Fractal Art. This would include fractal and digital artists, fractal software developers, gallery owners, museum curators, art marketers and brokers, printers, art collectors, and simply anybody who just plain likes to look at fractal images. Archive: ftp://ftp.aros.net/pub/users/noring/fractal-art/ FRACTAL-ART-SAFE, (same as above). FRACTINT, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Administrator: Tim Wegner Subscription Address: majordomo@xmission.com (body of your email message: subscribe fractint) Posts: Fractint@xmission.com Description: This mailing list is for the discussion of fractals, fractal art, fractal algorithms, fractal software, and fractal programming. Specific discussion related to the freeware MS-DOS program Fractint and it's ports to other platforms is welcome, but discussion need not be Fractint related. Technical discussion is welcome, but so are beginner's questions, so don't be shy. This is a good place to share Fractint tips, tricks, and techniques, or to wax poetic about other fractal software. Archive: ftp:// FRACTINT-DIGEST, (same as above except for list name, this is a single email sent containing the last several postings). Subscription Address: fractint-digest-request@xmission.com FRACTELITE-LIST, The Fractal Elite Mailing List Administrator: Terry W. Gintz Subscription Address: fractelite-list-request@terindell.com Posts: fractelite-list@terindell.com Description: This mailing list was designed expressly as a forum for users of TWG's set of fractal programs (Fractal Elite, Fractal Commander, Fractal Agent, and ZPlot). This is a forum for wish lists, technique and par file sharing. Archive: ftp:// FRAC-L, Forum on Fractals, Chaos, and Complexity Administrator: Ermel Stepp Subscription Address: listproc@archives.math.utk.edu (body of your email message: SUBSCRIBE FRAC-L Your_first_name Your_last_name (substituting your actual first/last names, of course). Posts: frac-l@archives.math.utk.edu Description: The purpose of FRAC-L is to be a globally networked forum for discourse and collaboration on fractals, chaos, and complexity in multiple disciplines, professions, and arts. Archive: ftp:// FRAC-L, Forum on Fractals, Chaos, and Complexity Administrator: David D. Lester Subscription Address: LISTSERV@GITVM1.GATECH.EDU (body of your email message: subscribe frac-l) Posts: FRAC-L@GITVM1.GATECH.EDU Description: Mailing list dedicated to the computer graphical generation of fractal images. In conjunction with the list, an archive of programs submitted by users will be maintained. Mr. Homer Smith of "Art Matrix" in Ithaca, New York, has donated a program library, which will soon be available from LISTSERV at GITVM1. Archive: ftp:// FRACTDEV, Fractint Developer's Discussion List Administrator: Tim Wegner Subscription Address: majordomo@xmission.com (body of your email message: subscribe fractdev) Posts: Fractdev@xmission.com Description: The purpose of this list is to facilitate communication between developers working on the freeware program Fractint and it's ports. For years the hub of Fractint's development has been CompuServe (currently GO FRACTAL). While that is likely to remain so for the future, this list should enable developers not on CompuServe to participate more easily. Archive: ftp:// FRACTDEV-DIGEST, (same as above except for list name, this is a single email sent containing the last several postings). Subscription Address: fractdev-digest-request@xmission.com FRACPROGRAMMERS, The Fractal Programmers Discussion List Administrator: Terry W. Gintz Subscription Address: fracprogrammers-list-request@terindell.com Posts: fracprogrammers-list@terindell.com Description: Thanks to the net skills and resources of Melissa D. Binde, there is now a fractal programmer's mailing list. Archive: ftp:// Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Derbyshire Subject: Re: (fractint) Are there other mailing lists? Date: 04 May 1998 04:53:05 -0400 [Comprehensive and helpful list snipped] Why the devil is Frac-L in there twice... and with different listserv address and administrator name to boot? (Looks suspiciously like what happens to databases without a 'modify' command when you enter a new record with changed addresses and forget to delete the old...) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint) file limit Date: 04 May 1998 12:10:12 +0100 Tim, >>Les, let us know whether or not you would accept email submission s >>for your site. My CompuServe web site is close to it's 5MB limit. However, I have another web site at Prestel with "unlimited" space. The only catch is that bandwidth for personal pages is limited to 600MB per month. For storing .par files and such this wouldn't be a problem. I would, therefore, be interested in setting up a par file archive there. Anyone interested in having there work located there should contact me at: les@crosstrees.prestel.co.uk cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 04 May 1998 11:25:07 +0100 Hi Paul, >>Now try getting the correct *names* associated with the GIF's. It's quite >>difficult, even with the aid of a couple of stiff Martinis. :-) >You're right - I'll have to think of a better way. You could use the "savename=" command in the par to specify an 8.3 format name, whilst retaining the original name in the title. IMO this is such a useful feature that it should be included as an option at the screen (Tim?) Then all we would need is for Michael Peters to update partobat to look for a savename before making up one of it's own! Here's an example... Run the par then hit ave. The DOS-friendly name "giftwrap" is automatically assigned. Christmas_giftwrap { ; t= 0:01:58.03 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1998 by Les St Clair [Par date: May 04, 1998] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_d.frm formulaname=dmj-mand-cr2-ang passes=t center-mag=-0.05764212738105143/+0.88330505057159070/114.4689 params=1/0/0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=zmag decomp=256 colors=WQT<4>NKRLIQKIQ<14>5VV<15>jsw<13>HL_FJYFJYEIX<14>tlo<14>VKNTILSIL\ <14>AUO<15>esm<14>KHGIEDJGF<5>SSVTUYWYbWYbWYbZag<2>bgodjrciq<13>MSaKQ_LR\ `<14>iqu<14>IQVGOTGOU<12>8`j7al7al<14>hpukqvkpu<13>kbYlaWk`W<7>YRT cyclerange=0/255 savename=giftwrap.gif } frm:dmj-Mand-Cr2-Ang { ; outside = decomp: angle of closest z[n] to ring at p1 ; This is the angle relative to p1. IF (imag(p2) == 0) ; Invalid value for aspect ratio. p2 = (0,1) + real(p2) ; Substitute a default value. ENDIF IF (real(p3) == 0) ; Invalid value for color scale. p3 = 75 + flip(imag(p3)) ; Substitute a default value. ENDIF IF (imag(p3) == 0) ; Invalid value for ring radius. p3 = (0,1) + real(p3) ; Substitute a default value. ENDIF closest = 1e+38 ; Closest approach so far. point = 0 ; Point of that closest approach. done = 2 ; Iteration counter. r = (0,1) ^ (real(p2)/90) ; Compute rotation vector. radius = sqr(imag(p3)) ; Calculate radius squared. z = 0, c = pixel: ; Mandelbrot initialization. z = sqr(z) + c ; Mandelbrot calculation. done = done + 1 ; Done one more iteration. z2 = (z-p1) * r ; Offset to p1 and rotate. z2 = real(z2) + flip(imag(z2) * imag(p2)) ; Distort aspect. d = abs((|z2|) - radius) ; Compute ring distance squared. IF (d < closest) ; Closer than previous value. point = z ; Save that point. closest = d ; Save the closest approach. ENDIF IF (|z| > 128) ; Point exceeds bailout. z = point - p1 ; Return closest point. done = -1 ; Set flag to force an exit. ENDIF done >= 0 ; Continue if the flag is clear. ;SOURCE: dmj-pub.frm } BTW, great formula by Damien Jones!! cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint) GeneralQ? .BAT Date: 04 May 1998 08:14:26 EDT Greetings, Can someone direct me to the instructions to run a .bat file to print a par file that has many entries? Also...what .bat is it? Where can I get it etc? Thanks ~~^~~^~~^~~^ SK Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Kaplan Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 04 May 1998 09:42:57 -0400 (EDT) you wrote: > > 'X client' is something like XFmail, xterm, what have you, that uses > > the facilities provided by the 'X server' -- namely, access to > > keystrokes and screen graphics. So the server runs on your desktop, > > and the client runs in the data center. Weird. > > I was referring here to the client program used to log on the X server machine > and run programs remotely on it, which presents the GUI locally and accepts your > input... seems there's some mixup of terminology because there are 2 kinds of > client... > This was XWin32, the other client the XFMail program, and the X server and > XFMail running on one of 20 linked X machines... XWin32 is actually the X server... you log onto a client, peculiarly enough, or which the application is running. X terminology is counterintuitive. > > > > Is [TkRat] written with that Tcl/Tk thing I keep hearing about? > > > Yep. BTW, you can get Tcl/Tk (with great docs and lots of examples) > > for Win32 and the Mac; I think www.scriptics.com or sunscript.sun.com > > might be good places to start. It's *great*. > > What is it, exactly? Tickle-T-K is one of the two main libraries for programming in X; you might think of it as the equivalent of the Microsoft foundation classes, that kind of thing. Functions for creating windows, buttons, playing with pointers, lots lots more, just spares you the gruntwork of doing all that. Also contains quite a lot of other common programming functions, to the extent that programming with Tcl/Tk is close to being a language of its own... the main competition, in terms of XWindows, is Motif... O'Reilly, of course, has the definitive book on the subject. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Kaplan Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 04 May 1998 10:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Profound apologies. That last message wasn't meant to be sent to the list. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: Are there other mailing lists? Date: 04 May 1998 10:26:09 -0500 Paul Derbyshire wrote: > > [Comprehensive and helpful list snipped] > > Why the devil is Frac-L in there twice... and with different listserv address and administrator name to boot? -------- Hi Paul and the rest of Team Fractals: According to my files the FRAC-L archives are at: ftp://archives.math.utk.edu/teaching.materials/fractals/ I checked to see if this archives still exists, and it does. There's a wealth of old Fractint formulas and params here, among other things, in case anyone wants to go back into history. Bob Now for a word from our sponsor: Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) file limit Date: 04 May 1998 12:10:16 -0500 Tim (& everyone), - Damien Jones has offerred his FTP site at ftp.fractalus.com as a - location to upload larger PAR and FRM files. Damien, could you let us - know upload instructions? The idea is instead of uploading a large - file to the list, upload it instead to Damien's site. For security reasons, I can't make a simple upload directory where everybody can store and download files. (Anyone who wants to know why should ask me privately.) If you have a large file you would like to make available to everyone on the list, just send it as an e-mail attachment to ftpadmin@fractalus.com; I will put the file on the FTP server and post the URL to this list. My mailbox can handle pretty big files, but if you want to send me something that's bigger than 10M, please let me know first. :) Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) file limit Date: 04 May 1998 12:26:34 -0500 Les, - The only catch is that bandwidth for personal pages is limited to 600MB - per month. For storing .par files and such this wouldn't be a problem. Maybe, maybe not. 600M isn't much, as far as bandwidth goes. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 04 May 1998 12:25:03 -0500 Les, - Christmas_giftwrap { ; t= 0:01:58.03 - - BTW, great formula by Damien Jones!! In the hands of an experienced explorer like yourself, I'd wager just about any formula could be great... :) Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Pars for the course Date: 04 May 1998 14:41:02 -0500 Hi Fractalizens: This time let's see what can be designed using another great formula from Sylvie--Gallet-6-04. Bob _______________________________________________ Study_#1-05|04|98 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-04 function=tan/sqr/flip passes=1 center-mag=+0.00005690352941189/+0.00008047058823517/980.3922/1.3333/0/2\ 7.474 params=5/0/0/0/0.3/0.05 float=y maxiter=255 potential=256/256/0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000mhq<2>qlu000<9>033000033<18>188426<129>SEj100<28>nOI000<13>000\ IGJ<26>lgp000<13>000 cyclerange=1/1 } Study_#2-05|04|98 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-04 function=cosxx/sqr/conj passes=1 center-mag=-0.209342/-0.209342/0.370892/1.3333/45 params=2/0.5/1/0.25/0.5/0.125 float=y maxiter=255 potential=256/256/0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000rjW<28>jbRzf_<58>VJ0000<59>000za0<57>W11zr`<28>rjW000<13>000 cyclerange=1/1 } Study_#3-05|04|98 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-04 function=tan/sqr/asinh passes=1 center-mag=-1.11022e-016/-1.04058e-015/1.604621/1.3333/-44.999 params=8/0/3/0/0.25/0.175 float=y maxiter=255 potential=256/256/0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=0000BPH00<27>g00h00f00<21>100FFF<9>OUZPW`RZd<9>_nx`oz_mx<21>777FF\ F<23>zo`<22>FFF<24>yUF<22>FFF<14>`0000D<24>0oz<16>0DR cyclerange=1/1 } Study_#4-05|04|98 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-04 function=tan/conj/asinh passes=1 center-mag=1.71734/1.75761/0.1950667/1.3333/-135 params=6/0/0.5/0/2/1 float=y maxiter=255 potential=256/256/0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000h_D<8>gY2fX0dReh`N<18>`meg`N<4>ZbQg`QXbR<9>FfY<4>iyK<21>rg8rg8\ rh8<10>sp8tq9sqE<5>jvmhwsgvs<21>8Ln6Jm6Jk<10>5HO4GL6HL<15>hXLkZKk_M<12>w\ tq<4>kIghAdgCe<12>Knt<9>jTe<11>2ys<17>ptt<15>MtlKukLuk<8>anp cyclerange=1/1 } Study_#5-05|04|98 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-04 function=cos/sin/recip passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.09405256/1.3333 params=0/0.5/0/0.5/0/0.5 float=y maxiter=255 potential=256/256/0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000FB6<11>zlR<14>DA40AA1CB<15>Xne<15>8HF6FD4CB2A9077<2>19919A1AA2\ BA<4>3ED3FD4GE5HF<17>CWTCWTCVS<24>2BAHDD<11>lcTofVqhWtkYwmZzp`<5>JD6I00<\ 10>zO0<25>I00E00<12>v_0<15>E00000000530<18>9K09K09J09J0AI0<11>530 cyclerange=1/1 } Study_#6-05|04|98 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-04 function=tan/asin/acos passes=1 center-mag=0.932515/0.930897/1.46394/1.3333/180 params=1.1/0/0.075/-1/4/0 float=y maxiter=255 potential=256/256/0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000FB6<11>zlR<14>DA40AA1CB<15>Xne<15>8HF6FD4CB2A9077<2>19919A1AA2\ BA<4>3ED3FD4GE5HF<17>CWTCWTCVS<24>2BAHDD<11>lcTofVqhWtkYwmZzp`<5>JD6I00<\ 10>zO0<25>I00E00<12>v_0<15>E00000000530<18>9K09K09J09J0AI0<11>530 cyclerange=1/1 } Study_#7-05|04|98 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-04 function=tan/asin/acos passes=1 center-mag=6.03684e-016/-6.03684e-016/8.431373/1.3333 params=2/0/-0.5/1.1/0/0 float=y maxiter=255 potential=256/256/0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000CBI<3>123AXWG_T<13>vx5KWTPZX<13>yxw_oFWkK<13>2OvLNJQRO<13>vvwX\ L1UP8<12>5nu3py0m_7ha<13>s9p6mgDhh<13>x7s5qWBjW<13>q0VEesKbn<11>sNIwMGyK\ D8MdEQ`<13>zt7mLIgPM<12>5pjr_elW`<13>153_bkWZe<13>250rlmkgg<13>076iptcjn\ <13>10BgbxaYq<8>EEM cyclerange=1/1 } Study_#8-05|04|98 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-04 function=cosxx/asin/acos passes=1 center-mag=-0.665512/-0.900806/0.06915629/1.3333/44.999 params=1.5/1/0.5/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=255 potential=256/256/0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<30>xC0zD0yD0<29>2110fz<7>zzz<6>0fz000<15>0V0<7>zzz<6>0x00z0<7\ >zzz<6>0Y0<15>0200fz<7>zzz<6>0fz000<30>xx0zz0yy0<29>2200fz<7>zzz<6>0fz0f\ z<7>zzz<6>0fz cyclerange=1/1 } Gallet-6-04 { ; Sylvie Gallet [101324,3444], 1996 z = pixel , x = real(z) , y = imag(z) : x1 = x - p1*fn1(y + fn2(p2*x) * fn3(p3*y)) y1 = y - p1*fn1(x + fn2(p2*y) * fn3(p3*x)) x = x1 , y = y1 z = x + flip(y) |z| <= 32 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jimmy Page Subject: (fractint) Shishikura's calculations Date: 04 May 1998 22:09:53 +0200 Hi there, Has anybody seen any web resources devoted to Mandelbrot's and Julia's sets Hausdorff dimension. The link on http://graffiti.u-bordeaux.fr/MAPBX/louvet/sci.fractals-faq/mandelbrot.html to ftp://math.sunysb.edu/preprints/ims91-7.ps.Z seems to be broken. I urgently need this information. Thanks in advance. Cheers, Piotr Hosowicz pinio@pol.pl Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Are there other mailing lists? Date: 04 May 1998 22:02:52 +0100 David Forbus wrote: >Hello All, > >I'm not using Fractint, but Tiera-Zon 24 instead. Are there any other >Fracal groups like this one? > >DLF Hmmm, where can I get Tiera-Zon 24? (Don't worry folks, fractint first!) Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 04 May 1998 16:11:09 -0400 At 06:56 AM 02/05/98 -0700, you wrote: >Seems silly to hold a grudge. Welcome aboard Turner..... Good show! I have to agree given that I ramble so... ><version!!!! Loved your new stuff>> Thanks- this is always encouraging to hear. I once suggested that built-in image filtering ala kpt would be nice but someone (Paul?) thought it wasn't necessary as there were sufficient filters and image editors available. He is probably correct but, what the hell, built-in ray tracing would be neat. Of course, I probably only think so because I've been at it for just a few days. Ah well, it's the toys that keep me young (well, maybe not physically) and I think I am just about approaching puberty backwards... Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: (fractint) Answer to life? Date: 04 May 1998 16:11:10 -0400 At 08:46 AM 02/05/98 -0700, Mark Christenson wrote: >The only two huge posts I would accept without issue would be either >1) a book of life's great secrets by God (you know, all of the good >stuff he didn't reveal to the Jews, or Jesus' followers, or Mohammed, >etc.) Easily done. See the next line only. That was easy, no? :) Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: luisrmcosta@gyral.com (Luis Ricardo Costa) Subject: (fractint) Hi / Last version of Fractint Date: 04 May 1998 20:26:41 GMT Hi... =46irst, since I'm new at the list, I would like to introduce myself. My = name is Luis Ricardo Costa and I'm from Portugal... I would like to know which is the latest version of Fractint, and how can= I get it... I saw that there's a list of files in the server that manages this mailing-list. But I don't know which is the file and I'm not sure which is the command to ask that file. I think that I've to send an = e-mail to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with the command: get fractint (file) And I think that the file is: fractint.9804 Am I right? Or, if you know an FTP which has the lastest version, please indicate me the complete URL to the file... Just to make sure that I don't get the oldest version! Thanks for any help, Luis Ricardo Costa Odivelas =3D> Portugal luisrmcosta@gyral.com *** ICQ UIN: 4111347 EXPO'98 =3D> http://www.expo98.pt Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint) Re:Tierazon { flariums lil bro' } Date: 04 May 1998 16:29:34 EDT In a message dated 98-05-04 16:12:54 EDT, you write: << Hmmm, where can I get Tiera-Zon 24? (Don't worry folks, fractint first!) Christian >> Hi Christian: This link goes to Flarium24 but there is a link to tierazon on that page also. { somewhere } I messed with both for about 6 hours...cute....nice bells and whistles ...but they made it obvious that fractint is the mother of all generators. Have fun. Steve ~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^ http://home.hiwaay.net/~stephenf/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) bailout project Date: 04 May 1998 15:26:35 -0700 A few days ago I started out trying to put an elliptical bailout on some of the formulas like gravijul and SpiderM. I actually have been a little disappointed in the results- the original formulas had a lot of versatility and all the results of this have the same pleasant but relentlessly similar symmetry. Maybe someone can come up with something interesting or better yet change the formula. 1spring { ; 5-3-98 kathy roth ; variation on gravijul by Mark Christenson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=bail.frm formulaname=bail2 function=recip/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=3.55271e-015/-3.55271e-015/0.1577899 params=1/0/0/0/1000/2 float=y maxiter=100000 inside=111 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=K58F03K03Q03X03e03o13<4>rKL\ <4>uaEudCvgAvj8wm6<2>zw0<3>ig4<9>upz<9\ >MP9<6>bhG<7>zzz<8>00c00k00t00k00c00X\ 00R00M<2>00D00B00A009<15>USh<2>MJc<\ 25>eDGeDFfDEfDDgDChCB<2>`ABY9AV9AT89Q79\ N69H48<5>005<14>vvv<16>008<15>oc0\ <12>B820048525321031030040042033034036\ 02802B01F01K01Q40XC0eP0oc0<5>tmT<7\ >zU3<10>aLDB04 } 1springa { ; 5-3-98 kathy roth ; different color colors=K58tYF<3>vj8wm6xp4yt2zw0<3>ig4<9>\ upz<9>MP9<6>bhG<7>zzz<8>00c00k00\ t00k00c00X00R00M<2>00D00B00A009<15>\ USh<2>MJc<25>eDGeDFfDEfDDgDChCB<2>`AB\ Y9AV9AT89Q79N69H48<5>005<14>vvv<16>008\ <15>oc0<12>B8200485253210310300400\ 4203303403602802B01F01K01Q40XC0eP0oc0\ <5>tmT<7>zU3<10>aLDB04F03K03Q03X03e\ 03o13<4>rKL<2>tVH } 1springb { ; 5-3-98 kathy roth ; different color colors=000VVwWWz<7>J9J<15>zWz<7>\ J09<15>z0W<7>J90<15>zW0<7>JJ0<15>zz0<7>9\ 9J<13>TTuww0mm0SUs<6>0J9<13>0uT0cwWWz0uU\ <6>0JJ<14>0xx0zz2tt<5>HKGMAM<15>\ wVw<3>oRomPmiS`dWOoo4``A<14>zz0<4>__AN\ UALO3<8>px9<5>KMGFGIBBM<12>TTu } 2lace_doily { ; 5-3-98 kathy roth ; variation on gravijul by Mark Christenson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=bail.frm formulaname=bail7 function=sqr/abs/tan center-mag=0.236284/0.0529231/0.2464505 params=1/0/0/0/2/1 outside=summ decomp=256 colors=000KWC<10>PbF<6>svc<6>feBdc\ 7``8<4>FOFJNF<2>caEkfDrkDzqCzmC<4>xRB8\ MBwHAvDAv8Av7Ammmw69<2>x39<3>`A7QE6KG\ 6<7>rDQ<2>tS_uXcvagwfkwknxpryuvzzz<\ 33>LguKguJfuHetHdrHcq<4>F`kE_iEZhEYfD\ Ye<8>BUVBUUBTTASR<38>4AA<13>BZUC`VB\ ZU<19>7E87D75C66B5693<8>AF6AG6AG6AH6B\ H7<5>DL85M8EM8<2>FO9DGIAPABQACRAARA\ 9SB0SBATB5UBJUBKVCmmm } 3 { ; 5-3-98 kathy roth ; variation on gravijul by Mark Christenson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=bail.frm formulaname=bail7 function=sqr/abs/cos center-mag=-6.48e-005/-2.05e-006/0.06311491 params=1/1/0/0/2/1 outside=summ decomp=256 colors=000w69<2>x39<3>`A7QE6KG6<7>rDQ\ <2>tS_uXcvagwfkwknxpryuvzzz<33>LguK\ guJfuHetHdrHcq<4>F`kE_iEZhEYfDYe<8>B\ UVBUUBTTASR<38>4AA<13>BZUC`VBZU<22>6\ B56936A4<22>FO9DGIGPA<21>PbF<6>svc<6>f\ eBdc7``8<4>FOFJNF<2>caEkfDrkDzqCzm\ C<8>v8Av7Ammm } 4 { ; 5-3-98 kathy roth ; variation on gravijul by Mark Christenson ; palette by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=bail.frm formulaname=bail7 function=sqr/abs/cos center-mag=-8.6155e-005/-2.62e-006/0.2693168 params=1/0/3/1/2/1 outside=summ decomp=256 colors=0000CC<10>0jjmmm0pp<2>0zz<12>0\ CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eNx\ fOzeNw<11>I0KO08<15>z0f<12>O08O00<15>z\ 88<12>O00c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG\ 0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15>0zR<12>0C400\ 0<10>000zzz000O08 } 5red { ; 5-3-98 kathy roth ; variation on gravijul by Mark Christenson ; palette by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=bail.frm formulaname=bail2 function=recip/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=3.55271e-015/-3.55271e-015/0.1577899 params=1/0/0/0/1000/2 float=y inside=111 outside=atan colors=000ITB<15>PbF<6>svc<6>feBd\ c7``8<4>FOFJNF<2>caEkfDrkDzqCzmC<8>v8A<\ 5>x39<3>`A7QE6KG6<7>rDQ<2>tS_uXcvagwfk\ wknxpryuvzzz<33>LguKguJfuHetHdrHcq\ <4>F`kE_iEZhEYfDYe<8>BUVBUUBTTASR<38>4A\ A<13>BZUC`VBZU<22>6B56936A4<29>IS\ B } ship's_net { ; 5-3-98 kathy roth ; variation on gravijul by Mark Christenson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=bail.frm formulaname=bail7 function=ident/abs/tan center-mag=0.236259/0.0529231/0.2464505 params=1/0/0/0/2/1 outside=summ decomp=256 colors=0007JJ<18>4BA4AA4CC<12>BZUC`V\ BZU<22>6B56936A4<46>PbF<6>svc<6>feBd\ c7``8<4>FOFJNF<2>caEkfDrkDzqCzmC<8>v\ 8A<5>x39<3>`A7QE6KG6<7>rDQ<2>tS_uXcv\ agwfkwknxpryuvzzz<33>LguKguJfuHetHdr\ Hcq<4>F`kE_iEZhEYfDYe<8>BUVBUUBTTASR\ <17>7KJ } astrolabe { ; 5-3-98 kathy roth ; variation on gravijul by Mark Christenson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=bail.frm formulaname=bail7 function=sqr/abs/recip center-mag=0.23609/0.0529231/0.2464505 params=1/0/0/0/2/1 outside=atan decomp=256 colors=000a0C<5>z0C00H<14>z0H00L<14>z\ 0L00P<14>z0P00T<14>z0T00Y<14>z0Y00a\ <14>z0a00e<14>z0e00i<14>z0i00n<14>z0\ n00r<14>z0r00v<14>z0v00z<14>z0z400<1\ 3>z00004<14>z04008<14>z0800C<7>Y0C } ship's_wheel { ; 5-3-98 kathy roth ; variation on gravijul by Mark Christenson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=bail.frm formulaname=bail7 function=recip/abs/tan center-mag=0.236278/0.0529231/0.2464505 params=1/0/0/0/2/1 outside=summ decomp=256 colors=000w69<2>x39<3>`A7QE6KG6<7>rD\ Q<2>tS_uXcvagwfkwknxpryuvzzz<33>LguK\ guJfuHetHdrHcq<4>F`kE_iEZhEYfDYe<8>B\ UVBUUBTTASR<38>4AA<13>BZUC`VBZU<22>6\ B56936A4<22>FO9DGIGPA<21>PbF<6>svc<6>f\ eBdc7``8<4>FOFJNF<2>caEkfDrkDzqCzm\ C<8>v8Av7Ammm } spider_ellipse{;bailout variation by kathy roth ; by Jean-Pierre Louvet ; shortcut by Bud z=pixel, f=pixel, g =f+p2, a=real(p3), b=imag(p3): f=f/p1+z, z=fn1(z^g)+fn2(f), real(z) * real(z)/ a + imag(z) * imag(z)/b < 1 } gravellipse_2u {;bailout variation by kathy roth ; Phil DiGiorgi's variation of Mark Christenson's gravijul j = imag(p3), k = real(p3) z = abs(pixel): x = real(z), y = imag(z) w = fn1(x) + k*y, v = fn1(y) + k*x u = fn2(w + flip(v)) z = fn4(p1/fn3(u*u)) + p2 x * x/j + y * y/ k<1 } bail2{ ;5-3-98 kathy roth ;variation of gravijul by Mark Christenson z = pixel, a=real(p3), b=imag(p3): w = fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 real(z)^ real(z)/ a + imag(z) * imag(z)/b < 1 } bail6{ ;5-3-98 kathy roth ;variation of gravijul by Mark Christenson z = pixel, a=real(p3), b=imag(p3): w = fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 fn4(real(z))/ a + fn4(imag(z))/b < 1 } bail7{ ;5-3-98 kathy roth ;variation of gravijul by Mark Christenson z = pixel, a=real(p3), b=imag(p3): z = fn1(p1/fn2((1/z)*(1/z)) + p2 fn3(real(z))/ a + fn3(imag(z))/b < 1 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) 3 pars Date: 04 May 1998 18:41:27 -0400 Greetings, The following three pars are derived from Damien M. Jones's frm and par titled: dmj-Mand-Pls-Dst which I assume everyone has. This is a case of serendipity in a way - I was randomly picking a couple of pars to look at before retiring for the evening, and this was the first one I looked at. The original par is IMO one of the better ones. Being a tinkerer I tinkered a bit - but not much. Only a slight zoom and color maps; with or without my changes, I think this spiral deserves another look and post. Damien suggested I change the original name to Blue Blade - but if everyone else has the original par under the name indicated, then it would be difficult to compare. So, to quote Damien (and I hope you do not object): "...But, on looking at the PARs, I see I must have posted my "Blue Blade" PAR as an example of that particular formula, and named it "dmj-Mand-Pls-Dst". (Seems my memory isn't what it used to be!) I have no objections to the PARs being posted, but it would probably be better to change the original name to "Blue Blade"." The color of Damien's original is _very_ close to the color of Blue_Lace; the actual color maps are different. The third par, Shadow Spiral, is, IMO opinion, striking. Extraordinarily so. I wish I could claim credit for this, but it is really just combining one of Mark's color maps with essentially one of Damien's pars (albeit slightly modified). Blue_Lace_Spr { ; mod of dmj-Mand-Pls-Dst ; color map: dav43blu reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=dmj-mand-pls-dst passes=1 center-mag=+0.28120054388312960/+0.00933852128256733/44156.87 params=0/0/45/100/256/128 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 outside=real colors=V`tWau<25>22p00o00o00o000<142>00000o<63>lvvmwwlvw<13>Xcu } Fire_Spiral { ; mod of dmj-Mand-Pls-Dst ; color map: dav30a reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=dmj-mand-pls-dst passes=1 center-mag=+0.28120054388312960/+0.00933852128256733/44156.87 params=0/0/45/100/256/128 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 outside=real colors=cF3iZJj`Lj`L<14>cF3V00<18>lPDmRElPD<9>V00cF3<12>iZJj`Lj`L<14>cF3V\ 00<46>j`Lj`Lj_L<57>W11V00V00V00<47>bE2bE2cF3cG4<11>iYI } Shadow_Spiral { ; mod of dmj-Mand-Pls-Dst ; color map: bud7 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=dmj-mand-pls-dst passes=1 center-mag=+0.28120054388312960/+0.00933852128256733/44156.87 params=0/0/45/100/256/128 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 outside=real colors=000<4>A00C00D00E00<9>Y00_00`00a00<23>y00z00z10z20<41>zx0zz0yz1<42\ >2Vx0Uz1Uz<42>x1zz0zz1z<42>zxzzzzyyy<27>UUU } davides@pipeline.com Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi / Last version of Fractint Date: 04 May 1998 17:19:05 -0700 Hi Luis.....welcome to this list The latest version of Fractint is available at http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/getting.html I got it with my browser.....(Netscape). Click on the large brown letters which say "Get Fractint" and the file will download. The file name is frain196.zip Hope that helps and happy fractaling Angela aka wizzle Luis Ricardo Costa wrote: > > Hi... > First, since I'm new at the list, I would like to introduce myself. My name > is Luis Ricardo Costa and I'm from Portugal... > > I would like to know which is the latest version of Fractint, and how can I > get it... <> > > Or, if you know an FTP which has the lastest version, please indicate me > the complete URL to the file... Just to make sure that I don't get the > oldest version! > > Thanks for any help, > > Luis Ricardo Costa > Odivelas => Portugal > luisrmcosta@gyral.com *** ICQ UIN: 4111347 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Genealogy1 Subject: Re: (fractint) April Par Collection Date: 04 May 1998 22:46:09 EDT Les, You did a GREAT job with the April Par Collection. Let's give Les a round of aplause. --Bob Carr-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) Music to watch fractals by. Date: 04 May 1998 23:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Fractalnauts: For a week or so, I've been trying to think of music that would best augment a fractal animation. This evening, I finally thought of it. It's so obvious that I don't see how it could have been overlooked this long. The music is the opening to "Einstein on the Beach", an opera by Philip Glass. The music is minimalist and recursive, changing only very slowly over long periods of time. The words are "one two three four, one two three four, one two three four five six seven eight" repeated hypnotically over and over, almost to infinity. I don't know if the four-disk recording is still available, but I'm certainly going to be searching for it. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: Re: (fractint) April Par Collection Date: 04 May 1998 22:59:14 -0500 -----Original Message----- Bob Carr wrote: >Les, > >You did a GREAT job with the April Par Collection. Let's give Les a round of >aplause. > >--Bob Carr-- > Agreed. Hip Hip Horay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Earl Simpson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry Bluestein Subject: Re: (fractint) Shishikura's calculations Date: 05 May 1998 00:24:08 -0400 Jimmy, Have you tried using the Hotbot.com search engine? I entered "Hausdorff dimension" as the search phrase and recieved over 2000 responses. The top few, at least, seemed to relate to fractals. Jimmy Page wrote: > Hi there, > > Has anybody seen any web resources devoted to Mandelbrot's and Julia's sets Hausdorff dimension. The link on > http://graffiti.u-bordeaux.fr/MAPBX/louvet/sci.fractals-faq/mandelbrot.html > to > ftp://math.sunysb.edu/preprints/ims91-7.ps.Z > seems to be broken. > > I urgently need this information. Thanks in advance. > > Cheers, > Piotr Hosowicz > pinio@pol.pl > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" -- Barry Bluestein - President The Lapis Group - Internet Consultants 11629 Deborah DR, Suite 1000 Potomac, MD 20854 301-299-0083 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Music to watch fractals by. Date: 04 May 1998 22:14:04 -0700 Oh...Glass....as in broken glass ....irritating and distracting glass......<> can I stand Schoenberg??? ...no no no....maybe Stravinsky on a bad day.....but.....please please please....no gas from glass Jim Muth wrote: > > Fractalnauts: > > For a week or so, I've been trying to think of music that would > best augment a fractal animation. This evening, I finally > thought of it. It's so obvious that I don't see how it could > have been overlooked this long. > > The music is the opening to "Einstein on the Beach", an opera > by Philip Glass. The music is minimalist and recursive, > changing only very slowly over long periods of time. The words > are "one two three four, one two three four, one two three four > five six seven eight" repeated hypnotically over and over, > almost to infinity. > > I don't know if the four-disk recording is still available, but > I'm certainly going to be searching for it. > > Jim Muth > jamth@mindspring.com > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil Bornemeier Subject: Re: (fractint) Music to watch fractals by. Date: 05 May 1998 01:02:03 -0400 At 11:50 PM 5/4/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Fractalnauts: > >For a week or so, I've been trying to think of music that would >best augment a fractal animation. Syntrillium has a nifty wind chime program that has a "fractal" mode. As well as a bunch of other options. You can download it for trial from: http://www.syntrillium.com/chimes.htm It is pretty nice. I'll have to register it soon. Phil B +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | pbornem@exis.net Not making a choice | | Phil Bornemeier is making a choice. | | It is a choice | | to stay where you are. | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Formula, pars Date: 05 May 1998 00:26:40 -0500 (CDT) comment { The orbit trap for this rendering method consists of a circle centered at the origin which passes through the center of four other circles which are tangent to each other. The trap consists of the areas common to the large circle and the smaller circles. This rendering method works with many different equations. Here I apply it to a modified series equation. Paul Carlson } frm:ORing_Series_Mset {; Copyright (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 ; real(p1) = radius of large circle ; imag(p1) = number of iterations to skip ; real(p2) = number of color ranges ; imag(p2) = number of colors in a range ; w = z = iter = range_num = 0 c = pixel r = real(p1) skip_iters = imag(p1) num_ranges = real(p2) colors_in_range = imag(p2) s2 = sqrt(2), ro = r * s2, r2 = r * r, k = r / s2 index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / k : w2 = w*w, w4 = .01*w2*w2, w8 = w4*w4, w12 = w4*w8, w16 = w4*w12 w = w2 - w4 - w8 - w12 - w16 + c wr = real(w), wi = imag(w), wr2 = wr * wr, wi2 = wi * wi ; c0 = ((wr2 + wi2) < r2) ; large circle c1 = (((wr - ro) * (wr - ro) + wi2) < r2) ; circle 1 c2 = ((wr2 + (wi + ro) * (wi + ro)) < r2) ; circle 2 c3 = (((wr + ro) * (wr + ro) + wi2) < r2) ; circle 3 c4 = ((wr2 + (wi - ro) * (wi - ro)) < r2) ; circle 4 ; IF (c0 && c1) ; if inside large circle and circle 1 dist = (wr - k) * (wr - k) + wi2 ELSEIF (c0 && c2) ; if inside large circle and circle 2 dist = wr2 + (wi + k) * (wi + k) ELSEIF (c0 && c3) ; if inside large circle and circle 3 dist = (wr + k) * (wr + k) + wi2 ELSEIF (c0 && c4) ; if inside large circle and circle 4 dist = wr2 + (wi - k) * (wi - k) ELSE dist = 0 ENDIF IF (dist > 0 && iter > skip_iters) index = index_factor * sqrt(dist) z = index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter dist == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20 } orserm01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=orngserm.frm formulaname=ORing_Series_Mset passes=1 center-mag=+0.36180152351235660/+0.09098150000634057/1.068557\ e+010/1/22.499 params=0.25/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<10>000z00000000 } orserm02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=orngserm.frm formulaname=oring_series_mset passes=1 center-mag=+0.29279512658051650/+0.00000000000000000/609034.9\ /1/-90 params=0.25/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000GGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40z\ z0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CC000<10>000z00000000 } orserm03 { ; Copyright (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=orngserm.frm formulaname=ORing_Series_Mset passes=1 center-mag=+0.36180152358688310/+0.09098150004737603/1.162283\ e+011/1/29.998 params=0.25/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40\ zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<10>000z00000000 } orserm04 { ; Copyright (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=orngserm.frm formulaname=ORing_Series_Mset passes=1 center-mag=+0.29279483164663370/+0.00000125862361569/1.730213\ e+007/1/45 params=0.25/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=242 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<10>000z00000000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: Re: (fractint) Music to watch fractals by. Date: 05 May 1998 02:52:59 -0400 (EDT) At 10:14 PM 5/4/98 -0700, you wrote: >Oh...Glass....as in broken glass ....irritating and distracting >glass......<> can I stand Schoenberg??? ...no no no....maybe Stravinsky on >a bad day.....but.....please please please....no gas from glass Wizzle: Granted, Glass is mostly gas. His style is called minimalist because there is not much substance to it. But I recall a film released about 10 years ago, which achieved moderate success and featured a lot of time lapse photography of the desert southwest and life in bustling NYC. It was named something like Koyanisqatsi, and featured music by Glass. The hectic visual images and savagely reiterated musical phrases worked together quite well. If the time lapse images were replaced by fractal animations, and the music kept the same, the overall effect would be similar. Then of course, one person's art is another person's junk. BTW, on my one-to-ten scale, Glass would rate a three, Schoenberg a two, and Stravinsky a five. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re:Tierazon { flariums lil bro' } Date: 04 May 1998 18:10:22 -0700 Steve wrote: >I messed with both for about 6 hours...cute....nice bells and whistles ...but >they made it obvious that fractint is the mother of all generators. Please let's not make this personal. I use both programs - Fractint and Tiera-Zon. They are quite different. The attributes of each makes it impossible to compare them to each other. I like apples and I like oranges. And both the Stone Soup Group and Stephen Ferguson are brilliant and generous to make these wonderful freeware programs freely available. Let's try not to compare them and decide which is "better" and which is "worse." >Have fun. That's the spirit! Linda http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/ (last update 4/29/98) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519 (last update 5/1/98) http://www.toptown.com/innercircle/gumbycat/index.html (last update 3/20/98) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) Can't let Glass pass... Date: 05 May 1998 01:30:03 -0600 Glass happens to be my current composer of choice. Yes. Even though on a desert island I would choose to have the five Late Quartettes by LVB. The quartettes would not be good as Fractint music, although I play it in the BG often, while at the computer, as I do Mozart, Sibelius, Mahler, Debussey etc., etc., etc.. Jim Muth mentioned Koyaanisqatsi which I go to sleep with using earphones, and there is also the truly wrenching Powaqqatsi as well as the Low Symphony from a David Bowie number - all by Glass, any of which could be used for a fractal show. But, the bottom line, is STILL, to each his own. YOU make the fractal, YOU choose the music that you think goes with it. Then every one's happy. Me, I like most music. I like most fractals. I LOVE Fractint. I love to read all your messages. I love my little grand-daughter. Sorry wizzle. About Glass, I mean. It's just a style. You don't have to like it. Ray Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Otterstaetter Subject: Re: (fractint) Aplause Date: 05 May 1998 09:52:35 +0200 Earl Simpson wrote: > Bob Carr wrote: > > Les, > > You did a GREAT job with the April Par Collection. Let's give Les a round > of >aplause. > Agreed. Hip Hip Horay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In deed!! Aplause, aplause ... Keep on the great work. Aplause, aplause!! Peter Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Music to watch fractals by. Date: 05 May 1998 02:44:09 -0500 Jim Muth wrote: > > It was named something like Koyanisqatsi, and featured > music by Glass. > "Koyaanisqatsi" (from the Hopi language) n. 1. crazy life. 2. life in turmoil. 3. life disintegrating. 4. life out of balance. 5. a state of life that calls for another way of living. The title song by Philip Glass was rather different from the other five pieces of original music composed for the film. It was rather somber and deep, like some diabolical monk's chant (that's why I enjoyed it so). It made a perfect soundtrack for an old silent movie I recorded once: NOSFERATU, EINE SYMPHONIE DES GRAUENS The other songs: Vessels; Cloudscape; Pruit Igoe; The Grid; and Prophecies would definitely work well with many fractal animations. P.N.L. Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) Music to watch fractals by. Date: 05 May 1998 17:39:06 +1200 At 23:50 04/05/98 -0400, Jim Muth wrote: > >Fractalnauts: > >For a week or so, I've been trying to think of music that would >best augment a fractal animation. This evening, I finally >thought of it. It's so obvious that I don't see how it could >have been overlooked this long. > >The music is the opening to "Einstein on the Beach", an opera >by Philip Glass. > This is amusing, since science fiction author Greg Egan, (one of my favourite authors) in his novel _Permutation City_ (one of my favourite novels), has one of the characters put exactly this opera on to play in the background while running some very elaborate software (complete with nifty graphics!) Morgan. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Wonderful pars!!! Date: 05 May 1998 06:52:57 -0400 Hi All, I am currently involved in a very interesting but very time consuming work that eats up all my free time and I can't keep up with the intense activity of this discussion list. I just take the time to generate the images at a very low resolution and most of them are still awaiting to be= generated at 1600x1200. The queue is getting longer and longer..... Anyway, thanks everybody for all of your wonderful pars!!! Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) Re:Tierazon re:'opinion' Date: 05 May 1998 07:22:58 EDT In a message dated 98-05-05 03:15:18 EDT, you write: << Steve wrote: >I messed with both for about 6 hours...cute....nice bells and whistles ...but >they made it obvious that fractint is the mother of all generators. Please let's not make this personal. I use both programs - Fractint and Tiera-Zon. They are quite different. The attributes of each makes it impossible to compare them to each other. I like apples and I like oranges. And both the Stone Soup Group and Stephen Ferguson are brilliant and generous to make these wonderful freeware programs freely available. Let's try not to compare them and decide which is "better" and which is "worse." >Have fun. That's the spirit! >> Sorry. I tought every one realized..."It only my opinion." Its your opinion that the differences in them make them uncomparable. Thats ok with me.{ I can agree to disagree} I realize thats how ' you ' see it but you might want to consider that all might not see it the same way. To attempt to limit points of view you don't agree with is you right also, but once again....in my opinion ...we choose to take it personally or not....that 'might' be a limitation also. Sincerely, Steve P.S. I have great admiration for the developers of fractint and tierazon. They 'both' have done the world of free expression a great service. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)exploring Gallet-6-8 Date: 05 May 1998 09:06:36 EDT Hi there, Here are some Pars. Steve 005-Jester { ; (c)Steve Karl 4/19/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=recip/sin/zero passes=t center-mag=-0.46341/-0.381017/0.1274893/1/44.999 params=1/0/2/0/99/0 maxiter=1410065407 inside=99 potential=256/200/33 invert=2.61459764833333/0/0 colors=nru_UMYRKXQKWPJUMHSJF<6>EAb<6>7Nu5Px5Nu<5>A5c<2>D6WE7UG8SH9QJANKB\ LKBLOEK<5>_VZ`Y`b`cdcf<2>jlolorlpr<14>OI5<6>eYJg_LiaNkcPneR<4>zpa<4>jdWg\ aVcZT`WSYUR<6>AAK<3>ALQAOSARUBUWBXY<6>DqlDtnCql<6>7Ta<6>L4R<8>VHI<7>zH0<\ 8>SDF<3>N3JL0KL1KM2KN3KO4J<12>zz0<7>``9YYAXVB<6>KAJMAKOAM<12>ziF<13>K8C4\ 13000<15>svcsvcsvcsvc<9>aWN } 002-NoChess { ; (c)Steve Karl 4/20/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/flip/cosh passes=1 center-mag=-0.698436/-0.146233/0.08159334 params=11/0/10/0/1/0 maxiter=1410065407 inside=99 potential=256/200/99/16bit colors=0000Q0<11>020000000<14>000110330<29>zz0<30>220000000<29>000000200\ <29>zKU<30>211000000<14>000010030<29>0z0<17>0S0 } 003-Omelt { ; (c)Steve Karl 4/20/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/flip/cosh passes=1 center-mag=-0.698388/-0.146233/0.08159334 params=1/0/10/0/1/0 maxiter=1410065407 inside=99 potential=256/200/16959/16bit colors=0000Q0<11>020000000<14>000110330<29>zz0<30>220000000<29>000000200\ <29>zKU<30>211000000<14>000010030<29>0z0<17>0S0 } 004-KingMidas { ; (c)Steve Karl 4/22/98 "The Arm of King Midas" reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=abs/ident/atanh center-mag=6.01031/2.10444/0.08159334 params=11/0/10/0/1/0 maxiter=1410065407 inside=99 potential=256/200/99 colors=0000Q0<11>020000000<14>000110330<29>zz0<30>220000000<29>000000200\ <29>zKU<30>211000000<14>000010030<29>0z0<17>0S0 } 005-Space-Mice { ; (c) Steve Karl 4.29.98 "Space Mice in Bondage" reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=recip/sin/exp passes=1 center-mag=0/0.449291/0.04167969 params=11/1/6/1e+020/1e+020/0.008999999999999999 maxiter=2 inside=99 potential=256/157/16959 invert=32/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } frm:Gallet-6-08 { ; Sylvie Gallet, 1996 z = pixel , x = real(z) , y = imag(z) : x1 = x - p1*fn1(y + fn2(p2*x) / fn3(p3*y)) y1 = y - p1*fn1(x + fn2(p2*y) / fn3(p3*x)) x = x1 , y = y1 z = x + flip(y) |z| <= 1024 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Need some help Date: 05 May 1998 07:47:38 -0700 For some wierd reason, I can't seem to run Fractint properly any more. I've tried re-loading the program. The problem is that dos doesn't seem to see the control key so I can't use any of the commands that need the control key like control+ to rotate an image. Any ideas or patch files would be greatly appreciated. Please send files as attachment to wizzle@cci-internet.com This problem with dos happens whether I shell to dos from windows or if I boot directly into dos. Thanks for any and all help Angela Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: Re: (fractint) Re:Tierazon { flariums lil bro' } Date: 05 May 1998 10:45:27 -0400 At 04:29 PM 04/05/98 EDT, Steve wrote: >In a message dated 98-05-04 16:12:54 EDT, you write: >I messed with both for about 6 hours...cute....nice bells and whistles ...but >they made it obvious that fractint is the mother of all generators. When I get a real winner out of Fractint, I have to agree. But then I work with Tierazon and get something that just ain't gonna happen with Fractint and I have to disagree. So what's my conclusion? - just be damned happy that the Stone Group / Ferguson brands of generosity give us so much to while away our times and imaginations. Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry Bluestein Subject: Re: (fractint) Need some help Date: 05 May 1998 10:57:50 -0400 Angela Wilczynski wrote: > For some wierd reason, I can't seem to run Fractint properly any more. I've > tried re-loading the program. The problem is that dos doesn't seem to see the > control key so I can't use any of the commands that need the control key like > control+ to rotate an image. > > Any ideas or patch files would be greatly appreciated. Please send files as > attachment to > > wizzle@cci-internet.com > > This problem with dos happens whether I shell to dos from windows or if I boot > directly into dos. > > Thanks for any and all help > > Angela > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Angela, some questions are nescessary; 1- What Operating sytem are you using (Windows 95?)? 2- How are you booting into DOS? (There are at least 3 ways from Win95) 3- Does the Control key still work in all other DOS programs? All other Windows programs? 4- What new software did you install lately? -- Barry Bluestein - President The Lapis Group - Internet Consultants 11629 Deborah DR, Suite 1000 Potomac, MD 20854 301-299-0083 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) bailout project Date: 05 May 1998 09:06:35 -0700 (MST) >A few days ago I started out trying to put >an elliptical bailout on some of the formulas like gravijul >and SpiderM. I actually have been a little disappointed >in the results- the original formulas had a lot of versatility >and all the results of this have the same pleasant but relentlessly >similar symmetry. Maybe someone can come up with >something interesting or better yet change the formula. [snippage] Not claiming to do either; just a question: >spider_ellipse{;bailout variation by kathy roth > ; by Jean-Pierre Louvet > ; shortcut by Bud > z=pixel, f=pixel, g =f+p2, a=real(p3), b=imag(p3): > f=f/p1+z, > z=fn1(z^g)+fn2(f), > real(z) * real(z)/ a + imag(z) * imag(z)/b < 1 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ How does order of operations handle this? I would have coded it more like (real(z)*real(z)/a + imag(z)*imag(z)/b) < 1 to make sure that the "elliptical" quantity is fully computed before being compared to 1. Does this still happen as written, or is the compare done on some incomplete combination of factors and terms? I have experimented with elliptical bailouts before, and found neat results when either combining (image processing) images of the same fractal with different bailouts, or making animations from one bailout condition (say, a=1, b=10) to another (a=10, b=1). It may not make much computation difference, but what I did was something along the lines of: zc = sqr(zc) + c, ; or your favorite iteration algorithm z = aa*real(zc) + bb*imag(zc) ; since multiplies are faster than divides ; aa is similar to 1/a above ; bb would be like (0, 1/b) |z| < 4 ; evaluates to ; sqr(aa*real(zc))+sqr(bb*imag(zc)) Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry Bluestein Subject: Re: (fractint) Need some help Date: 05 May 1998 12:19:04 -0400 BTW, Question #4 is probably the most important! ;) -- Barry Bluestein - President The Lapis Group - Internet Consultants 11629 Deborah DR, Suite 1000 Potomac, MD 20854 301-299-0083 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) Music to watch fractals by. Date: 05 May 1998 11:51:37 -0600 (CST) On Tue, 5 May 1998, Jim Muth wrote: > > BTW, on my one-to-ten scale, Glass would rate a three, > Schoenberg a two, and Stravinsky a five. > Then what's a one? Justin K. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) parser question (bailout project) Date: 05 May 1998 10:10:27 -0700 At 09:06 AM 5/5/98 -0700, Kerry wrote: >(Kathy wrote:) >>A few days ago I started out trying to put >>an elliptical bailout... > >... > >Not claiming to do either; just a question: > >... > >> real(z) * real(z)/ a + imag(z) * imag(z)/b < 1 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >How does order of operations handle this? I would have coded it more like > >(real(z)*real(z)/a + imag(z)*imag(z)/b) < 1 > >to make sure that the "elliptical" quantity is fully computed before being >compared to 1. Does this still happen as written, or is the compare done >on some incomplete combination of factors and terms? By the book, it should be okay. Multiplication and division are precedence level 3, addition and subtraction are level 4. However, now *I* have a question. 19.6 documentation says negation is level 2; how can this be, if subtraction, which uses the same operator/symbol is level 4? (English majors, forgive me. I know it's bad style not to spell out small numbers, but I thought it was more readable.) BTW, if anyone hasn't tried the suggestion (Tim's, I believe) of extracting the documentation from the executable, I can not recommend it highly enough. It *is* big (533K), but searching for information (most editors have pattern search capabilities) is *so* much easier! I wish I had done it two years ago (my first exposure to Fractint). Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) parser question (bailout project) Date: 05 May 1998 10:25:56 -0700 At 10:10 AM 5/5/98 -0700, I wrote: >At 09:06 AM 5/5/98 -0700, Kerry wrote: >... >>> real(z) * real(z)/ a + imag(z) * imag(z)/b < 1 >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >>How does order of operations handle this? I would have coded it more like >> >>(real(z)*real(z)/a + imag(z)*imag(z)/b) < 1 >> >>to make sure that the "elliptical" quantity is fully computed before being >>compared to 1. Does this still happen as written, or is the compare done >>on some incomplete combination of factors and terms? > >By the book, it should be okay. Multiplication and division >are precedence level 3, addition and subtraction are level 4. Sorry Kerry, I misread your parens, and thus didn't answer the question you actually asked. Comparisons are level 6, so Kathy's version is okay as written. Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint) EX2 Gallet-6-8 Date: 05 May 1998 15:13:06 EDT Greetings, Here are a few more views of a wonderful formula. I hope you enjoy them. Steve ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 001-Inharmonic { ; (c)SK 5/5/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/cabs/sqr passes=1 center-mag=-1.24345e-014/0.0214144/0.2386836 params=2/1/38/52/0.001599999999999999/1.331111111111111 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=0.07/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } 002-ParrotTotem { ; (c)SK 5/5/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/cabs/sqr passes=1 center-mag=-1.28786e-014/0.0214144/1.399411 params=2/1/38/52/0.001599999999999999/1.331111111111111 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=0.0007/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } 003-EagleTotem { ; (c)SK 5/5/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/sqr/cotanh passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.04424456/1.4 params=3/1/32/4/15/2 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=4/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } 004-RavenTotem { ; (c)SK 5/5/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/sqr/cotanh passes=1 center-mag=-7.10543e-015/7.10543e-015/0.05469613 params=4/2/32/1.58/15/0.25 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=3/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } 039-Clover-Icon { ; (c) Steve Karl 4/30/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list1.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/sqr/cotanh passes=1 center-mag=0/-0.111051/0.04167969 params=1.5/1.5/146/3/4/6 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=-8/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } 005-DelicateIcon { ; (c)SK 5/5/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/sqr/cotanh passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.04167969 params=4/3/666/1.58/0.1/12 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=7.9975/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<4>LLL0JJHHH<7>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10\ >ff0AAL } 006-DelicateFan { ; (c)SK 5/5/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/exp/sqr passes=1 center-mag=-1.24345e-014/0.0214144/0.2386836 params=4/4/0.3/6/0.6/1.1111111111111e+019 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=0.1/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } frm:Gallet-6-08 { ; Sylvie Gallet, 1996 z = pixel , x = real(z) , y = imag(z) : x1 = x - p1*fn1(y + fn2(p2*x) / fn3(p3*y)) y1 = y - p1*fn1(x + fn2(p2*y) / fn3(p3*x)) x = x1 , y = y1 z = x + flip(y) |z| <= 1024 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Jakubowicz Subject: (fractint) music for fractals Date: 05 May 1998 16:55:08 -0400 If you want music that has has fractal properties, as opposed to music that's just kind of cool to watch fractals by, Schoenberg is your man. At least I can't think of any other music that is composed by a largely deterministic process (and is not improvised) yet results in such a combination of breathtaking chaos _and_ lyrical passages. And is self-similar almost by definition. Not sure why Id didn't use Pierrot Lunaire for Quake instead of bloody Nine Inch Nails. Fractals seen at http://home.earthlink.net/~pfjakub http://members.xoom.com/pfjakub Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Need some help Date: 05 May 1998 16:47:17 -0500 Angela Wilczynski wrote: > > For some wierd reason, I can't seem to run Fractint properly any more. I've > tried re-loading the program. The problem is that dos doesn't seem to see the > control key so I can't use any of the commands that need the control key like > control+ to rotate an image. > Sometimes it helps to turn over the keyboard and shake out all the loose dust, dirt and cookie crumbs. Bob "No Dirty Fractals" Margolis Now for a word from our sponsor: Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Music to watch fractals by. Date: 05 May 1998 16:50:37 -0500 4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu wrote: > > On Tue, 5 May 1998, Jim Muth wrote: > > > > > BTW, on my one-to-ten scale, Glass would rate a three, > > Schoenberg a two, and Stravinsky a five. > > > Then what's a one? > Any of the stuff I wrote in my college music composition courses. B. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) music for fractals Date: 05 May 1998 18:05:37 -0400 Peter Jakubowicz wrote: > If you want music that has has fractal properties, as opposed to music > that's just kind of cool to watch fractals by, Schoenberg is your man. At > least I can't think of any other music that is composed by a largely > deterministic process (and is not improvised) yet results in such a > combination of breathtaking chaos _and_ lyrical passages. And is > self-similar almost by definition. Yes, quite right. Much the same is true of Alban Berg (probably more "accessible" than Schoenberg), and, without lyrical passages but with lots of breathtaking chaos, of Anton von Webern too. I also like the suggestion of Glass, who has been mentioned by others. Add John Adams, another minimalist; especially Harmonium, with its rich chorus. Color cycle a spiral while listening to it. (Incidentally, it was La Sacre du printemps by Stravinsky which elicited riotous behavior by the audience, not Firebird.) Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) music for fractals Date: 05 May 1998 17:20:39 -0500 Gedeon Peteri wrote: > Add John Adams, another minimalist; > especially Harmonium, with its rich chorus. Color cycle a spiral while > listening to it. (Incidentally, it was La Sacre du printemps by Stravinsky > which elicited riotous behavior by the audience, not Firebird.) > How about Bartok's Music for Stringed Instruments, Percussion and Celesta? Holst's The Planets? Ligeti? Lutoslawski? Penderecki? Britten? B. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) music for fractals Date: 05 May 1998 17:21:25 -0500 Oh, yes...And Edgard Varese. B. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: Tierazon Date: 05 May 1998 17:32:04 -0500 I enjoy using about a half-dozen different Fractal programs. All have some interesting features the others don't. I mostly use Fractint however because of the ease in writing formulas for it and in working with color maps, coming up with color schemes that would be hard to do with the others. But since this is a list server devoted to the ins and outs of Fractint I, myself, don't plan to get into a discussion here on the merits of the other programs. That could be done on the fractal art list server. B. Now for a word from our sponsor: Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) ufo Date: 05 May 1998 19:38:51 -0400 Last night..hmmmm, don't really feel like spinning up a tale, so, the following par resembles something one might have read about: UFO { ; frm: Petals_Julia by Paul Carlson ; Colormap: dsgoldsilver reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Petals_Julia passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=0.01/0/0.5/0/63/256 float=y maxiter=2048 inside=zmag outside=summ colors=000<10>000000111222<36>zzw<42>111A20<10>yhW<22>A20111<32>zzw<22>1\ 11MC7<6>yhW<14>A20000<44>000 cyclerange=1/250 } davides@pipeline.com Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Tierazon Date: 05 May 1998 20:05:23 -0600 It's fine with me if people want to discuss other programs. I didn't know anything about Tierazon, and was glad to read about it. I'm glad there are other freeware programs out there distributed with source! Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) My favorite alien, and other pars Date: 05 May 1998 20:10:26 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula uses my 3D Stalks rendering on an equation from the book, _Spiral Symmetry_, p. 129, edited by I. Hargittai and C. Pickover. The images produced by the pars "alien" and "julia01" I originally did about three years ago - the others are new (and kind of different - I'm not too sure what I think of them - comments (pro and con) are welcome). Paul Carlson } frm:Spir_Stalks_Jul {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; ; p1 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p2) = a factor controlling the size of the stalks ; imag(p2) = iterations to skip ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; w = pixel c = p1 z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0 stalk_width = real(p2) skip_iters = imag(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width : w = w * w - c, wr = real(w), awr = abs(wr) w = w - wr + awr ; IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w))) dist = abs(real(w)) ELSE dist = abs(imag(w)) ENDIF IF (dist < stalk_width && iter > skip_iters) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 bailout = 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 4 } alien { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=Spir_Stalks_Jul passes=1 corners=-0.62194238/-0.10395143/0.401804689/0.327805981/-0.39\ 994626/0.10580986 params=0/0.3/0.01/0/2/100 float=y maxiter=100 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zVz<123>G0GVzz<123>0GG000000L00000000 } julia01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul passes=1 corners=-1.784/1.784/-1.338/1.338 params=-0.184375/0.45/0.06/1/2/125 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0n_z<123>I0K000<3>000 } spiral_weave { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul passes=1 corners=-0.429044904/-0.325674698/0.384097196/0.345180895/-0.\ 373151805/0.309573065 params=-0.36812529/0.08941615999999999/0.06/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000GGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40z\ z0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CC000<13>000 } spiralvalley { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul passes=1 corners=-0.592215277/-0.388767392/0.816234109/0.739641063/-0.\ 482209376/0.669559576 params=-0.36665/0.11573/0.06/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000GGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40z\ z0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CC000<13>000 cyclerange=1/240 } v_abstract { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul passes=1 corners=-0.8624517/1.381342/0.1983121/1.881157 params=-1/1/0.3/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0n_z<123>I0K000<3>000 } whatever { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul passes=1 corners=-0.66651717/0.26219005/0.78551078/0.38880675/-0.14176\ 464/0.08584074 params=-0.4/0.33/0.06/20/8/30 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Tierazon Date: 05 May 1998 18:56:03 -0700 I can't think of anything better than a meld of Tierazon and Fractint. Both have wonderful features. As a programmer, Tim, I think you ought to check out the Tierazon/Flarium site because it's obvious that Steve has really done some excellent work in the area of bringing out programs that take advantage of the 16mil color environment. Still to go....IMHO....is the precise control I have when I use Fractint. Tough problem as far as I can tell and one definely worth everyone's while. I sorta keep posting my set of "ideals" (in my notion of importance) 1. Color control a la fractint 2. Proportioning and skewing 3. Multi-tasking 4. Some degree of color smoothing as offered by truecolor Both Fractint and the Flarium/Tierazon family offer an excellent range of formulas and coloring methodologies....i.e. stalks, bubbles, ribbons, etc. My bottom line is a good image....one that makes you sit back from the screen and say......ooooooooooooo....... And since I've got excellent programs (free even!!!) already....I can only look forward Angela Tim Wegner wrote: > > It's fine with me if people want to discuss other programs. I didn't > know anything about Tierazon, and was glad to read about it. I'm glad > there are other freeware programs out there distributed with source! > > Tim > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Tierazon Date: 05 May 1998 22:20:54 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 5 May 1998, Tim Wegner wrote: > I'm glad there are other freeware programs out there distributed with source! Yeah, hundreds of them. The Internet is mostly composed of them, in fact. Few are as excellent as Fractint, though. They've been in the news a lot in the last month. See http://www.opensource.org/ or http://freshmeat.net/ for more info. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Tierazon Date: 05 May 1998 22:18:23 -0600 > Yeah, hundreds of them. The Internet is mostly composed of them, in > fact. Few are as excellent as Fractint, though. On Unix or Linux maybe. On the PC platform source is often not available for fractal programs, and these days freeware is the exception, not the rule. Lately there have been some new fractal programs that are not freeware. Tierazon is an exception. > They've been in the news a lot in the last month. Last month ehh, I'm impressed! :-) I'm not sure when Bert Tyler first posted Fra386 1.0 with source, but probably about a decade ago. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint) April Par Collection Date: 06 May 1998 05:10:28 +0100 Hi Bob, Earl, Peter.... >>You did a GREAT job with the April Par Collection. << Thanks for all your kind words, hoots and handclaps! You've convinced me that it's been a worthwhile effort Cheers! Now, here's a quickie using Kathy Roth's recently posted gravijul variant... lesb2_01 { ; using Kathy Roth's "bail2" formula t= 0:00:42.19 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1998 by Les St Clair [Par date: May 05, 1998] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=bail2 function=flip/exp/log passes=t center-mag=-0.0269643/-0.00813206/0.9082583 params=1/0/0/0/1000/2 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=maxiter outside=summ invert=1/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000O2IO2J<14>w12z00z20<23>zz0<21>z30z00x01<13>R1HO2JN2I<13>212000\ 000<28>N1HO2IN2K<13>21w00z03z<14>0zz<30>02z00z00y<30>O2I<4>C189166143120\ 00<5>A07C19D19<12>N1H } - Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Derbyshire Subject: Re: (fractint) file limit Date: 06 May 1998 02:39:45 -0400 Damien M. Jones wrote: > For security reasons, I can't make a simple upload directory where > everybody can store and download files. Most FTP sites have an incoming directory; you can upload there but not download. the admin checks anything infectable (Word docs, exes) or that could be a Trojan (exes, batch files, shell scripts) before moving them to the pub dir, but moves anything that is guaranteed harmless (frm, par, map) instantly when updating every day or three. Can't you do this? -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Tierazon Date: 06 May 1998 17:21:39 +1200 At 18:56 05/05/98 -0700, Angela wrote: > >Both Fractint and the Flarium/Tierazon family offer an excellent range of >formulas and coloring methodologies....i.e. stalks, bubbles, ribbons, etc. > I also like the Flarium/Tierazon's range of colouring methods; I did consider writing formulas illustrating them in Fractint to see how they'd go there (24bit colour notwithstanding), but found myself baffled by the documentation. It's not the mathematical notation that's scaring me off, but I'd like a bit of coherency and background explanation. Heigho, I'll download the source and see if I can piece anything together from that... Morgan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Tierazon Date: 06 May 1998 08:06:19 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 5 May 1998, Tim Wegner wrote: > > Yeah, hundreds of them. The Internet is mostly composed of them, in > > fact. Few are as excellent as Fractint, though. > > On Unix or Linux maybe. On the PC platform source is often not > available for fractal programs, and these days freeware is the > exception, not the rule. Lately there have been some new fractal > programs that are not freeware. Tierazon is an exception. Yes, most open-source programs have been written for Unix. I'm interested to hear that `freeware is the exception, not the rule'. While open-source freeware was pretty rare when I was a DOS guy (1985-1991 or so), freeware was ubiquitous. > > They've been in the news a lot in the last month. > > Last month ehh, I'm impressed! :-) I'm not sure when Bert Tyler > first posted Fra386 1.0 with source, but probably about a decade > ago. You are correct. Most of the open-source programs that have been mentioned in the news so much in the last month are older than that. It's just that the news media have picked up on the idea in the last month because of Netscape and Linux. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) file limit Date: 06 May 1998 11:51:56 -0500 Paul, Apparently you missed the "ask me privately" portion of my message. Since you asked publicly, I'll answer you publicly. (Next time, read the message before offering a knee-jerk response, OK?) - Most FTP sites have an incoming directory; you can upload there but not - download. ... Can't you do this? I specifically stated that I would not create a place where people could both upload and download files. Such a free-for-all file exchange is begging for abuse--not so much from the crowd on this list, but from others who may discover its location. Thus uploading and downloading to the same directory is not something I'm going to set up. You are correct that most FTP sites have an incoming directory. However, that means I have to check the directory for incoming files, which is not something I normally do. There is no prompting that something new is in the incoming directory. On the other hand, if people e-mail me their files, I'll know right away, because e-mail is something I do regularly check. Moving a file from my e-mail to the ftp site is just as much work as moving it from an incoming directory, so I might as well set things up in the most convenient way possible for me. Add to that that it's easier for most people to learn how to attach a file to e-mail than to figure out an FTP program, and that downloading from an FTP site is as easy as clicking on the published URL for the file, and I hardly think this solution is inelegant. Now, if you have FURTHER questions about this policy, ASK ME PRIVATELY. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry Bluestein Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Tierazon Date: 06 May 1998 13:45:20 -0400 I don't write a blessed bit of code, and don't ever care to! ;) I DO however care a very great deal about UI design and software ergonomics. I could comment at length about Tierazon/Flarium's UI. In short though, despite both being GUIs', neither yet comes near to Fractint's (DOS) ease or speed of use. TDB. I'm getting ready at long last to dual boot my NT 4 box at home with DOS just so that I can run FRACTINT! I've just got to be able to play with all of these lovely sounding PARs. -- Barry Bluestein - President The Lapis Group - Internet Consultants 11629 Deborah DR, Suite 1000 Potomac, MD 20854 301-299-0083 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) My favorite alien, and other pars Date: 06 May 1998 19:13:58 -0500 (CDT) comment { In my original posting of this formula yesterday I inadvertently left out one of the pars that creates an image that I like - it looks as though the image has a lot of depth to it. So here it is, along with the formula again. Paul Carlson } frm:Spir_Stalks_Jul {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; ; p1 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p2) = a factor controlling the size of the stalks ; imag(p2) = iterations to skip ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; w = pixel c = p1 z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0 stalk_width = real(p2) skip_iters = imag(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width : w = w * w - c, wr = real(w), awr = abs(wr) w = w - wr + awr ; IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w))) dist = abs(real(w)) ELSE dist = abs(imag(w)) ENDIF IF (dist < stalk_width && iter > skip_iters) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 bailout = 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 4 } perspective { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul passes=1 corners=-0.287484228/-0.244406294/0.599553005/0.576522437/-0.\ 2609215/0.564136034 params=-0.2754/0.4407/0.03/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0n_z<123>I0K000<3>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRD1950 Subject: Re: (fractint) A JPL Formula Date: 06 May 1998 21:19:18 EDT I did a fractal search and came with the fractal information, forget where and simply accessed it I think. I'm just starting to delve into fractalizing even though I am somewhat familiar with it already, the concept that is. Thanks for the email. I need to download a fractal generator and tryout some formulas. See you on the next mailing. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Tangent Ball Formula Date: 06 May 1998 21:07:34 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula applies my Tangent Ball rendering method to Newton's solution of (w*w-1)*(w*w+c)=0. This method is similar to my Flex Ball method except this method keeps the balls in a "string" tangent to each other instead of connected to each other over some distance along the edges. Paul Carlson } frm:TBalls_Newt1_Mset {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; real(p1) = ball size factor ; imag(p1) = iterations to skip ; real(p2) = convergence test distance ; z = iter = 0 c = pixel cm1 = c - 1 tcm1 = cm1 + cm1 w = sqrt((1 - c) / 6) sc = sqrt(-c) ro = 2.613125929753 * p1 ros = 1.847759065023 * p1 r2 = p1 * p1 dr0 = -flip(ro) dr1 = -ros - flip(ros) dr2 = -ro dr3 = -ros + flip(ros) dr4 = -dr0 dr5 = -dr1 dr6 = -dr2 dr7 = -dr3 index_factor = 29 / p1 bailout = 1 : w2 = w * w w = w - (w2 * w2 + cm1 * w2 - c) / (4 * w2 * w + tcm1 * w) ; IF (|w + dr0| < r2) dist = |w + dr0| range_num = 0 ELSEIF (|w + dr1| < r2) dist = |w + dr1| range_num = 1 ELSEIF (|w + dr2| < r2) dist = |w + dr2| range_num = 2 ELSEIF (|w + dr3| < r2) dist = |w + dr3| range_num = 3 ELSEIF (|w + dr4| < r2) dist = |w + dr4| range_num = 4 ELSEIF (|w + dr5| < r2) dist = |w + dr5| range_num = 5 ELSEIF (|w + dr6| < r2) dist = |w + dr6| range_num = 6 ELSEIF (|w + dr7| < r2) dist = |w + dr7| range_num = 7 ELSEIF (|w + (-1,0)| < p2) bailout = 1 z = 252 ELSEIF (|w + (1,0)| < p2) bailout = 1 z = 252 ELSEIF (|w + sc| < p2) bailout = 1 z = 252 ELSEIF (|w - sc| < p2) bailout = 1 z = 252 ELSE bailout = 0 dist = 0 ENDIF IF (dist > 0 && iter > imag(p1)) bailout = 1 z = index_factor * sqrt(dist) + range_num * 30 + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == 8) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20 } tbnwt1m1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tbnewt1m.frm formulaname=tballs_newt1_mset passes=t center-mag=+0.99920275327934840/+0.03992298476492151/19758.38\ /1/-2.499 params=0.2/0/1e-005/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40\ zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<10>000zzz000000 } tbnwt1m2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tbnewt1m.frm formulaname=tballs_newt1_mset passes=1 corners=0.00074954182739346488/0.00074954192447543517/2.75054\ 36406112959e-007/2.7512717553887042e-007 params=0.1/0/0.0001/0 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00z\ W0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C4000<10>000zz0000000 } tbnwt1m3 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tbnewt1m.frm formulaname=tballs_newt1_mset passes=t center-mag=+0.00074954187587805/+0.00000027509074838/1.125746\ e+011/1/-37.5 params=0.1/0/1e-005/0 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCG\ Gz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08000<10>000zz0000000 } tbnwt1m4 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tbnewt1m.frm formulaname=tballs_newt1_mset passes=t center-mag=1046.85/-4.16334e-017/32.57765/1/90 params=0.2/0/1e-005/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<9>0000OO000000000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Derbyshire Subject: (fractint) FOTN91 is missing! Date: 06 May 1998 22:54:08 -0400 FOTN91 is missing! -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTN91 is missing! Date: 06 May 1998 22:24:31 -0500 Paul Derbyshire wrote: > > FOTN91 is missing! > I don't believe Jay has issued the one for May 06th yet. Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTN91 is missing! Date: 06 May 1998 20:43:18 -0700 I had no problems seeing FOTN91. But isn't this issue better resolved by addressing the comment to Jay rather than the list? Angela Paul N. Lee wrote: > > Paul Derbyshire wrote: > > > > FOTN91 is missing! > > > > I don't believe Jay has issued the one for May 06th yet. > > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Derbyshire Subject: (fractint) FOTN91 is there. Date: 07 May 1998 02:37:46 -0400 Guess it wasn't forgotten, just a little late. :-) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jiho Kim Subject: (fractint) Fractal Dimensions Date: 07 May 1998 01:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Can someone tell me how would would calculate the fractal dimension of a fractal? I've looked through some books and their explanations are vague at best... This probably wouldn't be of general interest so can someone with enough experise in math-side of fractals email me an better explanation than I've found thus far... Much much obliged, Jiho Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) Hi / Last version of Fractint Date: 07 May 1998 13:37:56 +0200 Luis, I'm also new here ... actually I've been lurking for about a month and this list is annoying me intensely ... I just don't have time to keep up! Still 92 unread posts and over 70 pars saved but not yet run. You have to get the latest version from spanky.triumf.ca, but it may be very slow as you're outside the US - sorry, North America. You can get frain195.zip from Simtel.net - ftp://ftp.ip.pt/pub/simtelnet/ - I don't see a WWW mirror in Portugal but try http://ftp.globalnet.co.uk/simtel.net/ which will allow you to use the search engine. Sorry, I don't know the exact ftp path. Who submits fractint to Simtel? If somebody could get 19.6 there it would be a great help to the ROTW. Hi to everyone else too. Joe >---------- >Hi Luis.....welcome to this list > >The latest version of Fractint is available at > >http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/getting.html > >I got it with my browser.....(Netscape). Click on the large brown letters >which >say "Get Fractint" and the file will download. The file name is > >frain196.zip > >Hope that helps and happy fractaling > >Angela aka wizzle > >Luis Ricardo Costa wrote: >> >> Hi... >> First, since I'm new at the list, I would like to introduce myself. My name >> is Luis Ricardo Costa and I'm from Portugal... >> >> I would like to know which is the latest version of Fractint, and how can I >> get it... <> >> >> Or, if you know an FTP which has the lastest version, please indicate me >> the complete URL to the file... Just to make sure that I don't get the >> oldest version! >> >> Thanks for any help, >> >> Luis Ricardo Costa >> Odivelas => Portugal >> luisrmcosta@gyral.com *** ICQ UIN: 4111347 > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: (fractint) To: Paul N. Lee Re: Site Date: 07 May 1998 08:02:13 -0400 Tried sending this to you personally via your site but mail bounced back "host not found". Hi Paul, I enjoyed visiting your Earth & Sky series, particularly #s 45,47,57 & 63. I came in on your front page but noticed your smoke-free zone. As I was enjoying my pipe I hesitated to enter but figured, what the hell, I probably wouldn't get caught... Thanks. Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractal Dimensions Date: 07 May 1998 15:24:48 +0200 Jiho, look at http://home.earthlink.net/~mrob/muency/boxcountingdimension.html And the person who recently asked about Hausdorff dimension (I deleted the post) may want to look at the link on that page that defines it. I find this site "Mu-Encyclopedia" very interesting from a mathematical point of view. Follow a few definitions and you'll soon see if you share this interest. It's about as different from most fractal sites as you can get ... focuses exclusively on the M set with a few references to Julias, and presents images in ASCII-art, but so what! I would really like to know if such topics *are* general interest on this list. Joe >---------- >Can someone tell me how would would calculate the fractal dimension of a >fractal? I've looked through some books and their explanations are vague >at best... This probably wouldn't be of general interest so can someone >with enough experise in math-side of fractals email me an better >explanation than I've found thus far... > >Much much obliged, > >Jiho > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi / Last version of Fractint Date: 07 May 1998 07:23:07 -0700 Welcome on board Joe!!! I know what you mean about slow download times....and especially to and from your area. I've tried downloading stuff from oz a few times and it can get really frustrating. However, here's one general hint for those outside the US who need to download from servers located here......try timing your downloads for Saturday or Sunday mornings, no later than 11 AM Pacific Daylight Time (2PM Eastern Daylight time; 7 PM British Summer Time). I've never had a problem with the web (to any server, worldwide) if I keep to that time. Earlier is better. If you can't keep up with the pars and formulas being posted, you can download those from previous months at Les St. Clair's site. Definetly the lazy person's way to fractal!!! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ But not all the pars will run with Fractint 19.5, so get the later version. Hope you have lots of fun here... Angela Joe Pearson wrote: > > Luis, I'm also new here ... actually I've been lurking for about a month > and this list is annoying me intensely ... I just don't have time to > keep up! Still 92 unread posts and over 70 pars saved but not yet run. > <> > > Who submits fractint to Simtel? If somebody could get 19.6 there it > would be a great help to the ROTW. > > Hi to everyone else too. > Joe Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) Hi / Last version of Fractint Date: 07 May 1998 16:33:18 +0200 >Welcome on board Joe!!! Now I have my own personal welcome from Angela I feel good! >If you can't keep up with the pars and formulas being posted, you can >download >those from previous months at Les St. Clair's site. Definetly the lazy >person's >way to fractal!!! Been there, very useful. The problem I have is not the download time ... because in fact I don't have email at home, I get the mail at work and take my laptop home. I just don't have enough time to run them! This may be something to do with being limited to a 486-DX4 75MHx, >640x480 resolution, and roughly no free disk space ... > >But not all the pars will run with Fractint 19.5, so get the later version. And the ability to find frms in the par file is a great time-saver too. >Hope you have lots of fun here... Thanks! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi / Last version of Fractint Date: 07 May 1998 10:57:29 EDT Luis...welcome! If you have troubble getting 19.6 because of your location let me know { write me off the list} and I'll send it to you as an attachment. Sincerely, Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Preslar Subject: (fractint) Partobat problems Date: 07 May 1998 13:47:03 -0500 Hi All! I am trying to use partobat.exe for the first time on my new Pentium II and get this error message: Runtime error 200 at 0488:0091 I wrote and asked Michael Peters (the program's author) what I was doing wrong. He replied: >nothing. Some people seem to get this message, most others don't. I have no >idea why this happens, but it seems to be some incompatibility of the Pascal >DOS kernel code with your machine, in a way that I don't understand. Do you >have a Pentium II? The other people who got this error had a Pentium II. Which >Win95 version do you have - is it Win95A or B? Maybe there's a problem with the >file system ... Since he doesn't have an idea where the problem lies, he suggested that I ask list members if they have encountered this and if anyone has a workaround or suggestion to offer. Does anyone have a clue? Janet Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat problems Date: 07 May 1998 15:11:39 -0400 When I tried Partobat, only opened it to check it out and closed it immediately, the next time I ran Fractint a few minutes later it crashed my computer as it had never done before. I lost all control and had to cut power and reboot. The error message I got was: fatal error caused by WINOLDAP. Never heard of such a thing. I did not try again. I have the latest version of Win95, but only a Pentium 166MMX, not Pentium II. I use a Matrox Millenium II 8 MB video card. Janet Preslar wrote: > Hi All! > > I am trying to use partobat.exe for the first time on my new Pentium II and get > this error message: > > Runtime error 200 at 0488:0091 > > I wrote and asked Michael Peters (the program's author) what I was doing wrong. > He replied: > > >nothing. Some people seem to get this message, most others don't. I have no > >idea why this happens, but it seems to be some incompatibility of the Pascal > >DOS kernel code with your machine, in a way that I don't understand. Do you > >have a Pentium II? The other people who got this error had a Pentium II. Which > >Win95 version do you have - is it Win95A or B? Maybe there's a problem with the > > >file system ... > > Since he doesn't have an idea where the problem lies, he suggested that I ask > list members if they have encountered this and if anyone has a workaround or > suggestion to offer. > > Does anyone have a clue? > > Janet > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) Partobat problems Date: 07 May 1998 15:28:35 -0400 I'm pretty sure WINOLDAP is a stub program win95 uses to run dos = programs. I think it manages DOS memory and the window it uses, and = other stuff. Pete // fatal error caused by WINOLDAP. Never heard of such a=20 // thing... [snip] Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat problems Date: 07 May 1998 22:17:55 +0100 Hi, I've seen the seen problems with Pascal code. A simple pascal program of mine didn't work on a P2-266. The problem turned out to be located in the CRT (cathode ray tube) unit. Even if *no* procedure from crt is used in the program, the uses crt; line already causes a Divide by zero error (I believe that's indeed RTE 200). This was in real dos, no dos window. I was not able to fix it. Christian -----Original Message----- >Hi All! > >I am trying to use partobat.exe for the first time on my new Pentium II and get >this error message: > >Runtime error 200 at 0488:0091 > >Does anyone have a clue? > >Janet Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat problems Date: 07 May 1998 13:46:48 -0700 Hi, Janet! I usually run Fractint under DOS, not in the background of Windows. If I exit Fractint (Hit the "D" key), and try to run it in DOS, I get that message. Also, If I go to the "MS-DOS prompt" in Windows, it won't run right. But If I "Shut down and restart in MD-DOS mode" (through the Start button) it runs fine for me. I have a Pentium (not II), and Win95 if that helps. If it doesn't help, sorry! That's all I have to offer! Good luck! Linda -----Original Message----- >Hi All! > >I am trying to use partobat.exe for the first time on my new Pentium II and get >this error message: > >Runtime error 200 at 0488:0091 > >I wrote and asked Michael Peters (the program's author) what I was doing wrong. >He replied: > >>nothing. Some people seem to get this message, most others don't. I have no >>idea why this happens, but it seems to be some incompatibility of the Pascal >>DOS kernel code with your machine, in a way that I don't understand. Do you >>have a Pentium II? The other people who got this error had a Pentium II. Which >>Win95 version do you have - is it Win95A or B? Maybe there's a problem with the > >>file system ... > >Since he doesn't have an idea where the problem lies, he suggested that I ask >list members if they have encountered this and if anyone has a workaround or >suggestion to offer. > >Does anyone have a clue? > >Janet > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: (fractint) parser question (bailout project) Date: 07 May 1998 00:19:03 -0400 Bud, > 19.6 documentation says negation is level 2; how can this be, if subtraction, which uses the same operator/symbol is level 4? < Easy, actually. The parser keeps track of whether the next token is to be an operator or a variable. When a "-" comes up, it is subtraction in the former case and negation in the latter. George Martin Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Preslar Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat problems Date: 07 May 1998 17:45:36 -0500 Linda Allison wrote: > Hi, Janet! > > I usually run Fractint under DOS, not in the background of Windows. If > I exit Fractint (Hit the "D" key), and try to run it in DOS, I get that > message. Also, If I go to the "MS-DOS prompt" in Windows, it won't run > right. But If I "Shut down and restart in MD-DOS mode" (through the > Start button) it runs fine for me. > > I have a Pentium (not II), and Win95 if that helps. Linda =97 Partobat ran perfectly from MS-DOS mode as you suggested. Thanks. Now if = I can get FractInt to recognize the video modes that my d*** video card is capa= ble of I'll be in business. Janet Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Stalk Segments Formula Date: 07 May 1998 19:56:44 -0500 (CDT) comment { This is a brand new formula. It uses a modified 3D Stalks rendering method - modified to plot only a segment of each stalk. The reason I developed this method is because the 3D Stalks method does not work well with the classic Mandelbrot set equation. Because the epsilon cross is centered at the origin and the origin is a critical point, the midgets were always covered by stalks. The present formula starts plotting the stalks away from the origin and also limits their length so that no stalk crosses a midget. The resulting images are quite different, but kind of nice. I haven't given any suggested values partly because I haven't used the formula much (just 2 images), and also because I suspect the values may vary quite widely. Both of the pars below are for images near the period-8 bulb. Paul Carlson } frm:Mandel_Segs {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; real(p1) = stalk segment width factor ; imag(p1) = stalk segment length factor ; real(p2) = number of color ranges ; imag(p2) = number of colors in a range ; real(p3) = minimum |w| for stalks ; imag(p3) = minimum iterations ; c = pixel w = z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0 stalk_width = real(p1) num_ranges = real(p2) colors_in_range = imag(p2) min = real(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width stalk_len = imag(p1) * stalk_width * stalk_width : w = w * w + c ; IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w))) dist = abs(real(w)) ELSE dist = abs(imag(w)) ENDIF IF (dist < stalk_width && iter > imag(p3)) IF (|w| > min && |w| < stalk_len) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 bailout = 1 ENDIF ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 4 } ssmandm1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=stseg.frm formulaname=mandel_segs passes=t corners=0.359187462505/0.359145722662/-0.0902845010978/-0.090\ 3822164993/0.359219339554/-0.0903270038299 params=0.1/35/8/30/0.2/80 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00z\ W0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C4000<10>000zzz000000 } ssmandm2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=stseg.frm formulaname=mandel_segs passes=t center-mag=+0.37227586233300000/+0.09063835370000001/325482/1\ /-51.799 params=0.1/35/8/30/0.2/140 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40\ zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<10>000zzz000000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kivryn_H Subject: (fractint) Re: Tiera-Zon coloring Date: 07 May 1998 21:09:54 -0500 Hi, Does anyone know how, if possible, to use color maps in Tiera-Zon. Is there a way I could convert from map to .clr? I really like the random cycling that comes with Fractint and Winfract, which Tiera-Zon doesn't have--It cycles only within a color map (or clr, as it is called in Tiera-Zon.) Also, can I use Fractint maps and frms in Winfract, such as the frms and maps on this list? Thanks for answering as many of these questions as you can. Sorry so many at one time. Best regards, Kivryn Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RBarn0001 Subject: Re: (fractint) parser question (bailout project) Date: 07 May 1998 22:20:56 EDT In a message dated 98-05-07 18:04:58 EDT, you write: << > 19.6 documentation says negation is level 2; how can this be, if subtraction, which uses the same operator/symbol is level 4? < >> Excuse me for butting in here, but subtraction has two arguments, while negation (or positation ) is a unary operator. They are different operators with different priorities. I just finished writing a formula parser for my Trumand program (not yet released ) so I have all these operator priorities and syntax diagrams running around in my head right now. Ron Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Tiera-Zon coloring Date: 07 May 1998 20:02:22 -0700 Kir... If you don't get a satisfactory answer from this list about Tiera-Zon's features, I suggest you contact Stephen Ferguson directly. He has always been most generous in answering even my dopier questions. Personally I'm not aware of a way to convert from a fractint map to a -zon map. And if it's not obvious it probably can't be done. I have great respect for the amount of time Stephen has paid to user interfaces....I found his programs a snap to learn. Good documentation too.......I sure wish Fractal Orbits....which is great fun....had just a tad better documentation. All map files work just fine for winfract. Just plop them onto your image. The limitation is that you can't color cycle the maps in winfract unless you reset your monitor's color resolution to 256 colors. This may or may not be as simple as the click of a mouse.....Micro-snot does offer a nice little set of tools....power toys....which instantly change your monitor's resolution (well....most of the time anyway). Works for many....but not for all. You can get the power toys from the microsoft site. Best of luck....you always need that with a microsnot product. Angela Kivryn_H wrote: > > Hi, > > Does anyone know how, if possible, to use color maps in Tiera-Zon. Is > there a way I could convert from map to .clr? > > I really like the random cycling that comes with Fractint and Winfract, > which Tiera-Zon doesn't have--It cycles only within a color map (or clr, > as it is called in Tiera-Zon.) > > Also, can I use Fractint maps and frms in Winfract, such as the frms and > maps on this list? > > Thanks for answering as many of these questions as you can. Sorry so > many at one time. > > Best regards, > Kivryn > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: (fractint) F.O.T.N. (Fractal of the Night) 7 May 1998 (Reaching) Date: 07 May 1998 21:58:42 -0700 F.O.T.N. (Fractal of the Night) 7 May 1998 (Reaching) It seemed forever to Dr. E (and to most of us also). First down this corridor and then down that corridor. She should have entered the hospital by another way. And she would have if she knew her way around here better. For a moment she thought she saw Dr. J but then realized it was just a poster begging for donations (Fig. 1) to support the new fractrauma wing of the hospital. This is where Dr. J probably was by now, given what had happened to him. "Oh miss... Oh miss...." Was that someone calling to her? After all she was wearing her fake candy striped volunteer outfit and pig tail wig. She ignored the calls and moved on toward Dr. J's room. The doctors claimed he is not iterating but she had to know for herself. http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotN92.html Figure 1. Reaching. Which is more important, a new computer or a new car? Answer: replace which ever has stopped first. Jay The parameter and formula files for Fractint are included below. Copy them into a quickie.par file for quick loading into Fractint. For longer term use, copy the frm: block into a FotN.frm file. But this time leave off the 'frm:' part. Then copy the rest (the par parts) into your FotN.par file. Reaching { ; (c) Jay Hill, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=onepiece.par formulaname=mixup center-mag=0.568447/0.109586/10.53932/1/122.499 params=2/0/4/0.5/0.15/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=bof60 symmetry=xaxis colors=000KAK<12>hAtjAwiAw<13>MAwKAw\ KAw<109>cZwcKA<109>wcK0cK0cK savename=reaching } frm:MixUp {; (c) Jay Hill, 1998 ; make sure p1 <> p2 and p3 <> 0 u=p1, v=p2, w=p3, c=pixel/w, x=v-u, z=(-u/v/w)^(1/x): z=z^u + w*z^v + c |z| <= 1000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sh0cKwAvE Subject: (fractint) TrueColor Fractint. Date: 08 May 1998 01:44:47 -0400 Hello, I am new to this list(few days), and was wondering if I could have some insight on when (if?) fractint will have full high/true color support. I had hoped to see it fully in the current version, as I have been using fractint scince the Fractal Creations Book and fractint v15.13. I am a programmer and if anyone wishes, I will give any help I can to make at the min 32k color fractals the standard. If this isan overdiscussed/pre-stated point forgive me. I simply must know. :) Thank you, Timothy Biggs Sh0cKeD SoLuTioNS CoNSuLTiNG sh0ck@thepentagon.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) Partobat problems Date: 08 May 1998 06:43:54 -0400 I think that CRT means 'C run time' as in a DLL (dynamic link library). = You probably dont have the right one. Pete // -----Original Message----- // From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com // [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Christian = Strik // Sent: Thursday, May 07, 1998 5:18 PM // To: fractint // Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat problems // =20 // =20 // Hi, // =20 // I've seen the seen problems with Pascal code. A simple pascal = program of // mine didn't work on a P2-266. The problem turned out to be=20 // located in the // CRT (cathode ray tube) unit. Even if *no* procedure from crt is=20 // used in the // program, the // uses crt; // line already causes a Divide by zero error (I believe that's indeed = RTE // 200). This was in real dos, no dos window. // =20 // I was not able to fix it. // =20 // Christian // =20 // -----Original Message----- // >Hi All! // > // >I am trying to use partobat.exe for the first time on my new=20 // Pentium II and // get // >this error message: // > // >Runtime error 200 at 0488:0091 // > // >Does anyone have a clue? // > // >Janet // =20 // =20 // =20 // =20 // =20 // =20 // -------------------------------------------------------------- // Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List // Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" // Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net // Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" // =20 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Justin A. Kolodziej" <4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu> Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat problems Date: 08 May 1998 09:27:24 -0500 Peter Gavin wrote: > > I think that CRT means 'C run time' as in a DLL (dynamic link library). You probably dont have the right one. No, I believe you're wrong. The crt unit has something to do with manipulating text on the screen, if I remember correctly. If only I had my Turbo Pascal 5 I could tell you for sure... :( > // I've seen the seen problems with Pascal code. A simple pascal program of > // mine didn't work on a P2-266. The problem turned out to be > // located in the > // CRT (cathode ray tube) unit. Even if *no* procedure from crt is > // used in the > // program, the > // uses crt; > // line already causes a Divide by zero error (I believe that's indeed RTE > // 200). This was in real dos, no dos window. -- I sense a great disturbance in the Source. Justin A. Kolodziej I am 4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu Marquette University is http://www.mu.edu Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robin bussell Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat problems Date: 08 May 1998 16:06:18 +0100 I thought this sounded familiar.... if you go and take a look at: http://www.mygale.org/02/renan/ which is the homepage for a rather groovy music to pretty patterns program, there in the list of updates is: march 1998, the 1st The problem on aestesis dos with the PentiumII is corrected, this problem was due to an error in the crt lib of borland pascal. I've integrated the patch from borland in the new compilation. download the new aestesis dos pack : A quick look at the borland (now inprise) site reveals: http://www.inprise.com/devsupport/pascal/ Runtime Error 200 - 'Divide by 0' Applications that use the CRT unit may generate this error message when running on very fast machines (i.e. Pentium Pro 180 and above). The cause of this error is a timing loop that occurs as part of the initialization of the CRT unit. This timing loop counts how many clock ticks occur within the loop and then that number is divided by 55. The result of this division is a value that is too large to fit into an integer value. The 'Divide by 0' error message is the catch-all error that is displayed when this overflow occurs. There are currently no Borland endorsed patches for this problem. There are several user provided patches available on the internet that patch both the CRT unit as well as existing EXE files. The easiest way to obtain these patches is to go to www.altavista.digital.com and search on '+ bp7patch.zip + tppatch.zip' without the quotes. So there you go! I'll leave further investigations to those who have Borland Pascal. I hope the non programming portion of the list doesn't mind this meaningless technobabble, look on it as an insight into the things that can come and bite you when you least expect it in the ever changing world of Information Technology :-) Cheers, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: (fractint) gravijul Date: 08 May 1998 13:26:06 -0400 Friends, Some recent postings of the gravijul formula have contained some extra lines from the "official" version of the formula. These extra lines make assignments to p1, p2 and p3 in the initialization section of the formula, which would override different settings in a par entry. People who save formulas as they are posted here should make sure to delete the rogue version of this very popular formula. Here is the correct version: gravijul {; r^(-2) Mark Christenson 1/25/98 ; defaults: p1 = (1,0) p2 = (0,0) p3 = (4,0) z = pixel: w = fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 |z| < p3 ;SOURCE: 98msg.frm } George Martin Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: luisrmcosta@gyral.com (Luis Ricardo Costa) Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi / Last version of Fractint Date: 08 May 1998 17:50:19 GMT Em Thu, 7 May 1998 13:37:56 +0200, escreveu: =46irst, thanks you all... You really helped me! >You can get >frain195.zip from Simtel.net - ftp://ftp.ip.pt/pub/simtelnet/ Well, Angela Wilczynski said that the last version of Fractint is frain196.zip... And, I think that I won't have problems to get it. The server ftp.ip.pt is a very fast FTP - right here in Portugal! I think it couldn't be better!! :) Thanks, Luis Ricardo Costa Odivelas =3D> Portugal luisrmcosta@gyral.com *** ICQ UIN: 4111347 EXPO'98 =3D> http://www.expo98.pt Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: luisrmcosta@gyral.com (Luis Ricardo Costa) Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi / Last version of Fractint Date: 08 May 1998 18:17:32 GMT Em Thu, 07 May 1998 07:23:07 -0700, escreveu: Hi... Just to say that I already have the last version of Fractint in my computer, and... thanks once more for all the help! Bye, Luis Ricardo Costa Odivelas =3D> Portugal luisrmcosta@gyral.com *** ICQ UIN: 4111347 EXPO'98 =3D> http://www.expo98.pt Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat problems Date: 09 May 1998 00:25:51 +0100 Pete wrote: >>I think that CRT means 'C run time' as in a DLL (dynamic link library). You probably dont have the right one. >>Pete >> To my mail // I've seen the seen problems with Pascal code. A simple pascal program of // mine didn't work on a P2-266. The problem turned out to be // located in the // CRT (cathode ray tube) unit. Even if *no* procedure from crt is // used in the // program, the // uses crt; // line already causes a Divide by zero error (I believe that's indeed RTE // 200). This was in real dos, no dos window. I don't think the CRT means C run time. All the procs and functions of crt are related to text-mode viewports. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Unusual Double Exposure Formula Date: 08 May 1998 18:48:01 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula uses a very unusual coloring method. The color range is determined by the iteration count, but the color within the range is determined by the 3D Stalk method. The effect is sort of like a double exposure. I'd appreciate knowing what you think of this method - if you like it, I'll apply it to some other equations. Paul Carlson } frm:Dbl_Expos_Newt1 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; ; real(p1) = a factor controlling the size of the stalks ; imag(p1) = minimum iterations ; real(p2) = convergence test distance ; imag(p2) = value of |w| for bailout ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; z = bailout = iter = range_num = dist = 0 c = pixel cm1 = c - 1 tcm1 = cm1 + cm1 w = sqrt((1 - c) / 6) sc = sqrt(-c) stalk_width = real(p1) skip_iters = imag(p1) cdist = real(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width : w2 = w * w w = w - (w2 * w2 + cm1 * w2 - c) / (4 * w2 * w + tcm1 * w) ; IF (iter > skip_iters) IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w))) min_dist = abs(real(w)) ELSE min_dist = abs(imag(w)) ENDIF IF (dist == 0 && min_dist < stalk_width) dist = min_dist ENDIF IF (|w + (-1,0)| < cdist) bailout = 1 ELSEIF (|w + (1,0)| < cdist) bailout = 1 ELSEIF (|w + sc| < cdist) bailout = 1 ELSEIF (|w - sc| < cdist) bailout = 1 ENDIF ENDIF IF (bailout == 1) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 bailout = 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < imag(p2) } dent1m01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt1.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt1 passes=t center-mag=-0.11157800435080620/+0.99375485493326440/11837.12\ /1/-159.999 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020/8/30 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } dent1m02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt1.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt1 passes=t center-mag=30.524/1.11022e-016/2.937392/1/90 params=0.1/10/1e-007/1e+020/8/30 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } dent1m03 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt1.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt1 passes=t center-mag=1046.852803/0/75.29715/1/90 params=0.1/30/1e-007/1e+020/8/30 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<12>000zzz } dent1m04 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt1.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt1 passes=t center-mag=-0.0677116/1.00704/9.861933 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020/8/30 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } dent1m05 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt1.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt1 passes=1 center-mag=+0.99933509405696620/+0.03646054300388649/1916229/\ 1/-1.999 params=0.1/50/1e-007/1e+020/2/125 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zzz<123>VVVzz0<123>aG0000<2>000kkk } dent1m06 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt1.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt1 passes=1 center-mag=+0.99872517189752490/+0.05082299857910686/634.6622\ /1/-2.999 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020/8/30 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } dent1m07 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt1.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt1 passes=t center-mag=+0.99883132158904500/+0.04833048223560943/11411.46\ /1/-2.498 params=0.1/45/1e-007/1e+020/8/30 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<12>000zzz } dent1m08 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt1.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt1 passes=t center-mag=-0.50135454686508240/+0.84441168145907690/2053494/\ 1/-172.498 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z88<123>O00zqa<123>WRF000<2>000kkk } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Pars for the course Date: 08 May 1998 21:18:53 -0500 Hi Fractalizens: Adding to your backlog of unviewed par files, this batch uses Sylvie's formula Gallet-6-03. Bob "Kentucky Fried Fractals" Margolis ========================== Study_#1-5|8|98 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=tan/asin/asinh passes=1 center-mag=2.10769e-016/-2.11636e-016/40.50971/1.3333/0/27.474 params=2.71828182845905/0/3.14159265358979/0/-1/0 float=y maxiter=255 decomp=256 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=0zzxxx<29>000<29>VwwXzzYzz<13>xzzzzzzzzzzz<14>_zzZyyYww<28>344122\ 233<29>xxxzzzzzz<30>000<30>WxxYzzZzz<13>xzzzzzzzz<14>zzz } Study_#2-5|8|98 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=tan/asin/zero passes=1 center-mag=-1.11022e-016/1.11022e-016/1.449275/1.3333 params=2.4/0/1.3/0/0.2/0 float=y maxiter=255 decomp=64 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000yx0zz0<18>T90R60R60<18>xw0zz0yx0<17>T90R60R60<18>xw0zz0yx0<17>\ T90R60R60<19>zz0<6>R60zz0<18>T90R60R60<18>xw0zz0yx0<17>T90R60R60<18>xw0z\ z0zz0<18>T90R60R60<17>wu0 } Study_#3-5|8|98 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=sin/cosxx/asin passes=1 center-mag=0.0368/0.0402707/6.170894/1.3333 params=2/0/0.5/0/10/0 float=y maxiter=255 decomp=64 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000LL0<4>ee0ii0ll0pp0rr0uu0<2>yy0zz0zz0<2>ww0uu0rr0pp0<4>YY0UU0PP\ 0LL0GG0KA0<4>aI0eJ0hL0kM0nN0<3>uQ0vR0vR0vR0vR0<3>pO0nN0kM0<2>aI0ZG0VF0RD\ 0OB0KA0000<190>000 } Study_#4-5|8|98 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=log/log/log passes=1 center-mag=+0.21508478763975980/+0.19761468242471290/105.2628/1.3333/45 params=1/0/1.1/0.65/0/0.42 float=y maxiter=255 invert=0.5/0/0 decomp=64 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000G20L30<2>Y80bA0eD0iG0lK0<2>sX0u`0ve0wj0wj0ve0<2>qS0oO0lK0iG0eD\ 0bA0Y80U60Q40<2>B20205<222>205 } Gallet-6-03 { ; Sylvie Gallet, 1996 z = pixel , x = real(z) , y = imag(z) : x2 = x*x , y2 = y*y x1 = x2 - p1*fn1(y2 + fn2(p2*x) + fn3(p3*y)) y1 = y2 - p1*fn1(x2 + fn2(p2*y) + fn3(p3*x)) x = x1 , y = y1 z = x + flip(y) |z| <= 32 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Unusual Double Exposure Formula Date: 08 May 1998 22:22:36 -0400 Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote: > I'd appreciate knowing what you think of this method - if you > like it, I'll apply it to some other equations. Paul, There is not a formula you posted to this list, including this one, I don't think very highly of, but I am only remiss in saying so often enough. Watching for your posts and running the pars is one of the highlights of my experience with this list. So by all means: keep them coming! Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) SStools.ini help Date: 08 May 1998 19:42:27 -0700 In a fit of stupidity, I dumped my sstools.ini file. I have a Matrox Millinium 8meg card which does funny things if I don't set the viewtext thingummy properly. Maybe it was some other thingummy.....I forgot!!! But anyway, if I switch from fiddling around with a fractal image to loading colors, I get a very goofy image. To correct the problem I have to re-select the video mode. I know this group had excellent suggestions which I implemented in my sstools.ini file and the problem disappeared. I DID look at the help available in Fractint and at the sstools.ini sample before I posted my plea. I looked at the Fractint documentation. I KNOW this issue is covered somewhere on the web.....but where?????? If not at spanky, I truly believe there ought to be a link off the spanky documenation page to the explanatory page......with ALL the options described (please). I mean.....Spanky is the bible, right?? Well...at least the start of the journey to Fractint enlightenment. <> Thanks for any help.....you can send prophalactic email to wizzle@beachnet.com. Angela Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Unusual Double Exposure Formula Date: 09 May 1998 01:01:33 -0500 (CDT) Gedeon, Thanks for the comments - I really appreciate them. I consider this particular rendering method kind of a novelty, and so my asking for commennts was to try to determine if it was worth my time (and yours) to do some more formulas using it, rather than use the time to do formulas using the types of rendering that I have been doing. Now that spring has arrived in Colorado, the amount of time I'll be spending at the computer for the next 5 or 6 months is limited. Paul Carlson >Paul, > >There is not a formula you posted to this list, including this one, I >don't think very highly of, but I am only remiss in saying so often >enough. Watching for your posts and running the pars is one of the >highlights of my experience with this list. So by all means: keep them >coming! > >Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: (fractint) You asked for it. Date: 09 May 1998 05:43:50 -0400 Netscape Communicator so-called "Professional Edition" 4.05 crashed again, and this time completely locked up my computer, costing precious data. I am absolutely stunned that a product this fragile and useless and downright *dangerous* ever made it past testing. If you carefully inspect the mail headers, you will see that I am no longer using Netscape. In fact, you will see that I am using your worst enemy's browser and mail tools. Let this be a lesson to you. Please note that I am going to be making my experiences with your so-called professional products publicly known. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) You asked for it. Date: 09 May 1998 11:17:19 -0400 It's alright, I understand... But I would suggest Outlook 98 while it's = still free :) Pete // -----Original Message----- // From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com // [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Paul = Derbyshire // Sent: Saturday, May 09, 1998 5:44 AM // To: postmaster@netscape.com; noc@netscape.com; root@netscape.com // Subject: (fractint) You asked for it. // =20 [snipped] Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) Partobat problems Date: 09 May 1998 11:25:45 -0400 Well, what does CRT mean in this case? I really doubt it's cathode ray = tube, because (almost) no program out there directly interfaces with it, = and that's only through a video card, which changes resolutions and = refresh rates and whatnot. The most direct manipulation I've ever seen = (on a CRT, I mean) is on a demo that changed the refresh rate = dynamically to produce cool looking swirls via interference patterns. = (And that would probably be done through the video card.) Pete // -----Original Message----- // From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com // [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of robin bussell // Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 11:06 AM // To: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat problems // =20 // =20 // I thought this sounded familiar.... if you go and take a look at: // =20 // http://www.mygale.org/02/renan/ // =20 // which is the homepage for a rather groovy music to pretty=20 // patterns program, there in the list of updates is: // =20 // march 1998, the 1st // The problem on aestesis dos with the PentiumII is corrected, // this problem was due to an error in the crt lib of borland pascal. // I've integrated the patch from borland in the new compilation. // download the new aestesis dos pack :=20 // =20 // A quick look at the borland (now inprise) site reveals: // =20 // http://www.inprise.com/devsupport/pascal/ // =20 // Runtime Error 200 - 'Divide by 0'=20 // Applications that use the CRT unit may generate this error message // when running on very fast machines (i.e. Pentium Pro 180 and = above). // The cause of this error is a timing loop that occurs as part of the // initialization of the CRT unit. This timing loop counts how many = clock // ticks occur within the loop and then that number is divided by 55. = The // result of this division is a value that is too large to fit=20 // into an integer // value. The 'Divide by 0' error message is the catch-all error that = is // displayed when this overflow occurs.=20 // =20 // There are currently no Borland endorsed patches for this problem. // There are several user provided patches available on the internet = that // patch both the CRT unit as well as existing EXE files. The easiest = way // to obtain these patches is to go to www.altavista.digital.com and // search on '+ bp7patch.zip + tppatch.zip' without the quotes.=20 // =20 // =20 // So there you go! // =20 // I'll leave further investigations to those who have Borland=20 // Pascal. I hope the // non programming portion of the list doesn't mind this=20 // meaningless technobabble, look on it as an insight into the things // that can come and bite you when you least expect it in the ever=20 // changing world of Information Technology :-) // =20 // Cheers, // Robin. // =20 // -------------------------------------------------------------- // Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List // Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" // Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net // Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" // =20 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat problems Date: 09 May 1998 17:42:48 +0100 Do you have any experience with the pascal programming language? In dos pascal *all* functions / procs from the crt unit are text video mode related. Christian >>>>Well, what does CRT mean in this case? I really doubt it's cathode ray tube, because (almost) no program out there directly interfaces with it, and that's only through a video card, which changes resolutions and refresh rates and whatnot. The most direct manipulation I've ever seen (on a CRT, I mean) is on a demo that changed the refresh rate dynamically to produce cool looking swirls via interference patterns. (And that would probably be done through the video card.) Pete<<<< Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: (fractint) Octet Minibrot Date: 09 May 1998 13:28:14 -0400 (EDT) Hello all...Well I've been lurking on this list for the past couple of weeks, and figured maybe it was about time I actually posted one of my *own* pars! :) I call this one 'OctetMini' because of the 8-spiral pattern surrounding the minibrot. Please everyone tell me what you think.... OctetMini { ; Cliff Crawford 1998 reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-0.50875428314337120/+0.52145167887750430/7274298 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=50000 inside=0 logmap=678 colors=00000i<43>002000000000<29>00k00m01m<29>0ky0mz1mz<30>zzz<44>5zz3zz\ 2zz0zz0yz<43>05z03z02z00z00y<14>00j } --Cliff http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ civil rights are not special rights Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Octet Minibrot Date: 09 May 1998 13:40:18 -0500 (CDT) >I call this one 'OctetMini' because of the 8-spiral pattern >surrounding the minibrot. Please everyone tell me what you think.... > >OctetMini { ; Cliff Crawford 1998 Nice image, Cliff! As you probably know if you've run any of the pars I've posted to this list, I'm partial to images that have minibrots in them. I especially like those that have a high degree of symmetry around the minibrot. I'll be saving the coordinates of your image to try with some different rendering methods. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unusual Double Exposure Formula Date: 09 May 1998 12:04:24 -0700 Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote: > > Gedeon, > > Thanks for the comments - I really appreciate them. I consider this > particular rendering method kind of a novelty, and so my asking for > commennts was to try to determine if it was worth my time (and yours) > to do some more formulas using it, rather than use the time to do > formulas using the types of rendering that I have been doing. Now > that spring has arrived in Colorado, the amount of time I'll be > spending at the computer for the next 5 or 6 months is limited. > > Paul Carlson > > >Paul, > > > >There is not a formula you posted to this list, including this one, I > >don't think very highly of, but I am only remiss in saying so often > >enough. Watching for your posts and running the pars is one of the > >highlights of my experience with this list. So by all means: keep them > >coming! > > > >Gedeon I certainly agree with Gedeon about Paul's formulas. Here is a par from the latest formula with a new map wiz_dent1 { ; Angela Wilczynski 5/9/98 new plum1.map ; from a Paul Carlson formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=may98.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt1 center-mag=1.00159/1.38778e-016/8.781603 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020/8/30 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000bE6<9>M20K00I00<5>000<3>000000112<13>AAT<14>A35A23C36<2>I7HL9L\ L9L<54>B54A43843<2>210000000<5>000500<20>a9IcAJcAJ<21>I05D04902000<2>000\ 000201<2>A09C1CF3F<13>pTv<14>D2DA09807<2>201000000<4>000<3>K00L10N20<13>\ mM9<5>cF6 } wiz_popt1 { ; Angela Wilczynski 5/9/98 ; from a P. DiGiorgi formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pdg05.frm formulaname=pd_pcj function=sin/conj/cotan/abs center-mag=-0.00938967/0/0.4732212/1/-90 params=1.04/0.03/3/-1.032/0.06/4 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0 colors=000LB9<12>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>000<15>00z<11>00G<14>zzm<10>0A0<15\ >0zm<12>C0C<14>SivUmzUjw<6>NP`NMYLGR<4>G0A<12>zmm<13>U30<3>K0K<12>mUm<21\ >RCJMJUQBI<11>C00F33I76 } frm:pd_pcj { ; modified PopcornJul by P. DiGiorgi h = real(p3), bailout = imag(p3) z = fn4(pixel) x = real(z), y = imag(z): x1 = p1*x - h*fn1(y - fn2(fn3(p2*y))) y1 = p1*y - h*fn1(x - fn2(fn3(p2*x))) z = x1 + flip(y1) x = x1, y = y1 |z| <= bailout } I also threw in a par from another fomula I was exploring....there is just too much good stuff!!!! Love it!!! Also....thanks to everyone who helped to get me thru my "keyboard crisis." I got a new keyboard today....the old one had a bad control key....what a bummer...it's incredible how important that one key is in fractaling. I'm a happy camper again. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Octet Minibrot Date: 09 May 1998 12:34:23 -0700 Cliff.... Very very nice image!! I can never find mini's in the mandelbrot set myself...I probably don't zoom in enough. And of course, I couldn't help a little fiddling with your excellent par......I zoomed out just a bit and added a color map from the collection by Linda Allison wiz_octet { ; based on Cliff Craford's mini ; with a Linda Allison color map from the collection reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-0.50875428314337120/+0.52145167887750430/6021489 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=50000 inside=0 logmap=678 colors=505000<63>000001000<2>90IC1OF1UI2ZL3cO4hR5lU7oX8s_9ubBx<2>jFz<2>b\ Bx_9uX8sU7oR5l<2>I2ZF1UC1O90I60C306203000620<2>O82UA3ZC5cE7hG9lIBoKEsMGu\ OJxQM<2>zVV<2>xQMuOJsMGoKElIBhG9<7>00000010621C31I43O55U67Z7Ac8Dh9HlALoB\ OsCTuDXxEayFfzGjz<2>DXxCTuBOsALo9Hl8Dh7Ac67Z55U43O31I<2>000<7>U0EY0I`0Mb\ 0Se0Wg0ai0gj0mj0tk0y<22>7030oO<27>0A5095084074053<2>021000000<11>000 } > > Hello all...Well I've been lurking on this list for the past couple of > weeks, and figured maybe it was about time I actually posted one of my > *own* pars! :) I call this one 'OctetMini' because of the 8-spiral pattern > surrounding the minibrot. Please everyone tell me what you think.... <> > --Cliff > http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Pars for the course Date: 09 May 1998 12:35:57 -0700 Bob Margolis wrote: > > Hi Fractalizens: > > Adding to your backlog of unviewed par files, this batch uses > Sylvie's formula Gallet-6-03. > > Bob "Kentucky Fried Fractals" Margolis > Kentucky Fried Fractals???????? Are you really Col. Cinders??? (couldn't help myself) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Unusual Double Exposure Formula Date: 09 May 1998 15:42:28 -0400 Hi Paul, >> This formula uses a very unusual coloring method. The color range is >> determined by the iteration count, but the color within the range is >> determined by the 3D Stalk method. The effect is sort of like a >> double exposure. >> >> I'd appreciate knowing what you think of this method - if you like >> it, I'll apply it to some other equations. Great formula! I'm looking forward to seeing this method applied to so= me other equations. - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Carlson formula par Date: 09 May 1998 13:25:26 -0700 Well....I'm pretty excited about this par. I got a really nifty result from zooming in on one of Paul's pars and also re-doing one of my own "carlson set" color maps to bring out the structure of his stalks methodology. There are a couple of obvious zooms here......and I'll let you all have the fun of doing them yourselves.... wiz_spiralvalley { ; AVW 5/9/98 new color map flx-blk1.map ; from a Paul Carlson formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=may98.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul corners=-0.53691921/-0.479572948/0.802008049/0.780418614/-0.505911627/0.\ 760664605 params=-0.36665/0.11573/0.02/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=@flx-blk2.map cyclerange=1/240 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) Octet Minibrot Date: 09 May 1998 18:02:04 -0400 Hi Cliff and Angela, Very nice images! I used Angela's coordinates, a slightly different logmap value, and one= of my maps. sg_octet { ; . t=3D 0:23:49= =2E23 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, May 09, 1998 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dmandel passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-0.50875428314337120/+0.52145167887750430/6021489 params=3D0/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D50000 inside=3D0 logmap=3D667 colors=3D00F<13>48N49O5AP5BP5CQ<16>CT`CU`DVaEWb<8>MghNhhOig<3>VmcXnb_n_= <9>\ zv4<13>Efa<10>7WR6VP7UO<13>HA2I80HA0<2>CG1AI2AJ2<14>H`8<12>wrB<12>zzz<1= 4\ >xtQwsNuqM<16>BK3<13>zVI<4>zzr<10>ryU<12>0bT<4>0UK0SI2PF4LB6I8<14>12E } Cheers, - Sylvie E-mail: Sylvie_Gallet@CompuServe.com Visit my exhibit at Museum of Computer Art: http://www.dorsai.org/~moca/ My Fractal Galleries: http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/sylvie/gallet.html http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet/homepage.htm Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) Carlson formu Date: 09 May 1998 18:41:56 -0400 Wiz, >> wiz_spiralvalley { ; AVW 5/9/98 new color map flx-blk1.map ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> inside=3D253 outside=3Dsumm colors=3D@flx-blk2.map cyclerange=3D1/240= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now if I just had that flx-blk2.map! :-( Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kivryn_H Subject: (fractint) Re: Tiera-Zon coloring Date: 09 May 1998 18:20:51 -0500 Angela wrote: > He has always been > most generous in answering even my dopier questions. Yeah, Steve has always been patient with my questions, too. > I found his programs a snap > to learn. Good > documentation too Me too. I must be really stupid, and embarrassed. I didn't see any documentation. Did it come with the program? > All map files work just fine for winfract. What about fractint frms and pars? Thanks all, Kivryn Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Tiera-Zon coloring Date: 09 May 1998 22:49:01 -0400 Kivryn_H wrote: > Angela wrote: > > All map files work just fine for winfract. > > What about fractint frms and pars? No formulas containing if..else logic work in Winfract. Pars cannot refer to such formulas. Nor can they contain outside=atan; or bailout tests other than mod. They cannot contain center-mag notation either; nor can there be any skewing. And there is no arbitrary precision math, i.e.: deep zooming. There are probably some other things I am overlooking here. In short, lots of pars posted to this list do not work in Winfract. Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Another Double Exposure Formula Date: 09 May 1998 23:06:55 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula uses a coloring method related to the method used in the Dbl_Expos_Newt1 formula that I posted a couple of days ago. In that formula the color range was determined by the iteration count. In this formula the color range is determined by which of the four roots the pixel converges to. In both formulas the color within the range is determined by the 3D Stalk method. Both formulas are Newton's solution of the equation (w*w - 1) * (w*w + c) = 0. The pars included here are for the same areas as the previous formula. I've used only two color ranges instead of four in these pars, using each range twice. And I've used the same colormap for all the pars. You may find it rewarding to experiment with the colors. I noticed that in the Dbl_Expos_Newt1 formula I messed up on the indentation and had a useless "bailout = 1" line in the formula, both of which were the result of cutting and pasting code from other formulas. Hope that didn't confuse anyone. Paul Carlson } frm:Db2_Expos_Newt1 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; ; real(p1) = a factor controlling the size of the stalks ; imag(p1) = minimum iterations ; real(p2) = convergence test distance ; imag(p2) = value of |w| for bailout ; z = bailout = iter = range_num = dist = 0 c = pixel cm1 = c - 1 tcm1 = cm1 + cm1 w = sqrt((1 - c) / 6) sc = sqrt(-c) stalk_width = real(p1) skip_iters = imag(p1) cdist = real(p2) index_factor = 59 / stalk_width : w2 = w * w w = w - (w2 * w2 + cm1 * w2 - c) / (4 * w2 * w + tcm1 * w) ; IF (iter > skip_iters) IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w))) min_dist = abs(real(w)) ELSE min_dist = abs(imag(w)) ENDIF IF (dist == 0 && min_dist < stalk_width) dist = min_dist ENDIF IF (|w + (-1,0)| < cdist) bailout = 1 range_num = 0 ELSEIF (|w + (1,0)| < cdist) bailout = 1 range_num = 1 ELSEIF (|w + sc| < cdist) bailout = 1 range_num = 2 ELSEIF (|w - sc| < cdist) bailout = 1 range_num = 3 ENDIF ENDIF IF (bailout == 1) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * 60 + 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < imag(p2) } d2nt1m01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=db2exnt1.frm formulaname=db2_expos_newt1 passes=t center-mag=-0.11157800435080620/+0.99375485493326440/11837.12/\ 1/-159.999 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0000<12>000kkk } d2nt1m02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=db2exnt1.frm formulaname=db2_expos_newt1 passes=t center-mag=30.524/1.11022e-016/2.937392/1/90 params=0.1/10/1e-007/1e+020 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0000<12>000kkk } d2nt1m03 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=db2exnt1.frm formulaname=db2_expos_newt1 passes=t center-mag=1046.852803/0/75.29715/1/90 params=0.1/30/1e-007/1e\ +020 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0000<12>000kkk } d2nt1m04 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=db2exnt1.frm formulaname=db2_expos_newt1 passes=t center-mag=-0.0677116/1.00704/9.861933 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0000<12>000kkk } d2nt1m05 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=db2exnt1.frm formulaname=db2_expos_newt1 passes=1 center-mag=+0.99933509405696620/+0.03646054300388649/1916229/\ 1/-1.999 params=0.1/50/1e-007/1e+020 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0000<12>000kkk } d2nt1m06 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=db2exnt1.frm formulaname=db2_expos_newt1 passes=1 center-mag=+0.99872517189752490/+0.05082299857910686/634.6622/\ 1/-2.999 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0000<12>000kkk } d2nt1m07 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=db2exnt1.frm formulaname=db2_expos_newt1 passes=t center-mag=+0.99883132158904500/+0.04833048223560943/11411.46/\ 1/-2.497 params=0.1/45/1e-007/1e+020 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0000<12>000kkk } d2nt1m08 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=db2exnt1.frm formulaname=db2_expos_newt1 passes=t center-mag=-0.50135454686508240/+0.84441168145907690/2053494/\ 1/-172.498 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0fOz<58>I0Kzz0<58>aG0000<12>000kkk } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Preslar Subject: (fractint) Resource List Date: 10 May 1998 00:21:49 -0500 The following is a list of resources for FractInt users and Discussion List members. (Last updated May 10, 1998) Please send all corrections, additions, and suggestions to: Janet Preslar (mailto:preslar@memphisonline.com) FractInt At Spanky =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html Mirror site =97 http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fractint.html FractInt Documentation =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/findex.html FractInt semi-official wish list =97 http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/robin.b2/olig/fracwish.htm Information, Tutorials and Explanations How to run FractInt for DOS under Windows 95 =97 http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fracwin95.html Linda Allison's Basic FractInt Hints and Tips =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/basic/basic-information.htm Wizzle's hints on getting started =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/tips-fractint.htm Linda Allison's Par and Frm tutorial =97 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/lesson.html http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/pars_and_frms/lesson.html (mirror) Linda Allison's Tutorial on Zooming =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/zoom/zoom-lesson.html Linda Allison's Tutorial on Proportioning, Sizing, and Skewing =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/proportion/proportions.htm Linda Allison's ColorMap tutorial =97 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/colors.html http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/colormaps/colormaps.htm (mirror) Linda Allison's Color Tricks =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/colortricks/colortricks.htm Wizzle's Color Map Magic =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/wizmaps/wizmaps.htm Damien M. Jones's Fractal Information Page =97 http://www.fractalus.com/misc/info.htm Linda Allison Explains Fractals =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/define/fractals_defined.htm Sylvie Gallet's PHC and PTC formula tutorial =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/phc/phc-tutor.html If...Else tutorial =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/If_else.html Bradley Beacham's Formula tutorial =97 =20 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/frm-tut/frm-tutor.html Wizzle's Help for FractInt Discussion List newcomers!! =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/fractint_list_q&a.htm Linda Allison's Tips and Hints for Using ParToBat (or how to have a l= ife AND generate a zillion fractals a day ;) ) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/epic.html FractInt Discussion List FractInt Discussion List archive =97 ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/fractint/archive/ 1997 Contest (thumbnails of all the entries) =97 http://www.fractalus.com/contest/ The 1997 Contest Kit (Re-create the magic at home!!) =97 http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/Contestk.zip Les St. Clair's Collection of Discussion List Pars & Formulas (all the pars and frms since August 1997) =97 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/fml.htm The iFAQ (collected topics from the list) =97 http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/iFAQ.html Copyrights Discussed (and discussed) =97 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/copyright.zip ColorMaps collected and organized by Wizzle =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractint_maps/newmaps.htm Dr. J's Fractal of the Night =97 http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotNindx.html Additional Programs & Utilities George Martin's Orgfrm program =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/orgfrm.zip Ron Barnett's MakeMap utility =97 http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/makemap.zip Paul Carlson's AddGifs program =97 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/addgifs.zip Thore Berntsen's FractInt Screensaver =97 http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm Jim Prickett's XMAP and MMAP utilities =97 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9943 Michael Peter's Partobat utility =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/IBMPC/PARTOB.ZIP Infinite Fractal Loop Home Page =97 http://www.fractalus.com/ifl/ Graphical List =97 http://www.fractalus.com/ifl/list.htm Particularly Helpful Links Pages Wizzle's Graphlinks =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/graphlinks.htm Fractal merchandise (posters, mouse mats, t-shirts, etc.) Lifesmith =97 http://www.lifesmith.com/ Refractal Design Inc. (fractal jewelry) =97 http://www.refractal.com Fractal-Art Mailing List How to Subscribe =97 Subscribe: majordomo@aros.net "subscribe fractal-art" Post Message: fractal-art@aros.net Get Commands: majordomo@aros.net "help" Administrator: noring@netcom.com Unsubscribe: majordomo@aros.net "unsubscribe fractal-art" Archive =97 ftp://ftp.aros.net/pub/users/noring/fractal-art/ Jim Muth's current Fractal of the Day =97 http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html Jim Muth's Fractal of the Day (complete archive) =97 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/pars.htm Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Japan & Linda Subject: (fractint) 2nd par Date: 09 May 1998 23:14:20 -0700 Hi, Here is the second par file I am submitting to this list. I spent most of the time trying to get the colors right. I did what I though it should end up like, then I tried other color maps that I have on my drive. I would like your comments. I still have a lot to learn. gb_galaxy01 { ; Collision of Galxies ; Calctime 0:00:09.51 at 1024x768 on a Pentium200MMX ; gbushta@zapcom.net reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-1.25933736077605500/+0.04084145989359493/2294.118/1/-67.5 params=2.5/0 float=y maxiter=99999999 inside=0 colors=000<27>000<6>oK2<6>ZL6<5>ne2qi1qi1<4>qm1qn0pn0on0nn0mm0<9>9a0<14>\ QI`RHbQGb<12>B2U90T92S<12>1T20W00Y0<6>0m00U0<5>0f10h20j20m30U0<9>0m3<2>0\ U2<5>8F2AC2AC2<18>11B00C00D00D<5>00f00k00r00z<8>00J<58>00` } Thanks in advance, Japan -- \\///// [P{) (O O) +----oOO-(_)-OOo------------+ | That upon which you dwell | | in the mind you become. | | ICQ:507219 | + ---==*> MIM <*==--- + Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Tiera-Zon coloring Date: 10 May 1998 00:09:09 -0700 I seem to have done it again. All the mail I received on May 6, 7 and 8 seems to have disappeared from my computer <:( Until it gets posted to the archives and I can download at least that portion of the missing mail, I'm feeling my way in the dark :) Again :) Kirvyn wrote: << . I must be really stupid, and embarrassed. I didn't see any documentation. Did it come with the program?>> She was talking about Tiera-Zon. I haven't seen any documentation, either, and just told someone else that there wasn't any. Was there something in the LOST-MAIL that I missed? If I blew it, someone please let me know so that I can set the record straight with my friend. You're not alone Kirvyn. I feel a little stupid and embarrassed, myself. Fortunately, however, it's a feeling that I'm quite used to and have learned to live with quite nicely, thank you! :))) Linda http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/ (last update 4/29/98) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519 (last update 5/8/98) http://www.toptown.com/innercircle/gumbycat/index.html (last update 3/20/98) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Resource List Date: 10 May 1998 00:12:49 -0700 Janet wrote: > Linda Allison's Tips and Hints for Using ParToBat (or how to have a life AND >generate a zillion fractals a day ;) ) > http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/epic.html I like the creative editing, Janet! That about sums it up! Linda Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoff Stanton" Subject: (fractint) nova frms Date: 10 May 1998 16:56:53 +0100 Hi I seem to have lost the Nova frm's. I especially need "DMJ-NOVA-SPI-DEC-I". Would any of you wonderful people please tell me where to download it. Cheers Geoff Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Carlson formu Date: 10 May 1998 09:58:18 -0700 OOOOOOOpppppssss!!! Let's try this again....thought something looked funny wiz_spiralvalley { ; AVW 5/9/98 new color map flx-blk2.map ; from a Paul Carlson formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=may98.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul corners=-0.53691921/-0.479572948/0.802008049/0.780418614/-0.505911627/0.\ 760664605 params=-0.36665/0.11573/0.02/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zzc<28>cKA000<28>0000wz<27>03C00A000<28>000fOz<28>K0F000<28>00\ 0KKU<26>333222111000000<42>000 } There......colors!!! Lee Skinner wrote: > > Wiz, > > >> wiz_spiralvalley { ; AVW 5/9/98 new color map flx-blk1.map > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> inside=253 outside=summ colors=@flx-blk2.map cyclerange=1/240 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Now if I just had that flx-blk2.map! :-( > > Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) nova frms Date: 10 May 1998 10:19:49 -0700 Geoff... I have a link to the formulas off my homepage....in the "With Expert Assistance" section Geoff Stanton wrote: > > Hi > I seem to have lost the Nova frm's. > I especially need "DMJ-NOVA-SPI-DEC-I". > Would any of you wonderful people please tell me where to download it. > Cheers > Geoff > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HWeber8606 Subject: (fractint) Zooms into Carr2958 Date: 10 May 1998 14:04:56 EDT Hi, here are some more zooms into Carr2958. If you like these images visit my page and see more of them and download the pars. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber Enjoy --Jo-- c2958129 { ; t= 0:12:05.18 ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 May 10, 1998 20:00:13 ; Par and Image Copyright 1998 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com or HWeber8606@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=carr2958 passes=t center-mag=-1.97616/-4.54662/22.4959 params=200/300/400/550 float=y maxiter=647 periodicity=0 colors=000000<4>00Q00V00Z00b00f00i<3>00r00r00s00r00r00p00n00l00i<2>00Z00\ V00Q<4>000<3>E2HI2LL3PO3TR4WU4ZW4aY5d_5e`5ga5ha5ib5ia5ia5h`5g_5eY5dW4aU4\ ZR4W<2>I2LE2HB1D719304000<2>IEEOJJUNNZRRcVVhZZlaapddsgguiixjjyllzllzmmzl\ lyllxjjuiisggpddlaa<2>ZRRUNNOJJ<2>644611<2>O44U55Z66c77h88l99pAAsBBuBBxB\ ByCCzCCzCC<2>xBBuBBsBBpAAl99<2>Z66U55O44<3>000<14>zmm<14>674241000<3>99O\ BBUDDZFFcHHhJJlKKpMMsNNuNNxOOyOOzPPz<2>NNxNNuMMsKKpJJl<2>DDZBBU99O<3>000\ <2>IE3OJ4UN5ZR6cV7hZ8la9pdAsgBuiBxjBylCzlCzmCzlCylCxjBuiBsgBpdAla9<2>ZR6\ UN5OJ4<3>000<30>000 } c2958135 { ; t= 0:34:20.64 ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 May 10, 1998 20:00:36 ; Par and Image Copyright 1998 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com or HWeber8606@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=carr2958 passes=t center-mag=-1.66619574102549600/-3.70397073017177500/166.1826/1/-74.998 params=200/300/400/550 float=y maxiter=647 periodicity=0 colors=000B81<6>301<11>b0Ee0Ff5I<10>zzs<7>fV7cQ0`O0<2>SI0<6>P60<2>G00<4>\ 0Qc<6>8bcAdcDed<11>tupxwrzyt<7>ylDxj2wiK<3>vc4ua0ub3<3>vhJviNvjPwkR<7>zw\ u<13>wCM<7>H84<12>hMB<14>H84FB3PG3<6>zk0<3>0kk<2>WgD<3>CXF<7>KSDLSDMRCOQ\ BORA<2>OK8OH7OE6NB5PC6<7>eLAhMBiOD<2>mTInVJpYH<2>vdByg8yh5yi3yg3<2>ga3<2\ 5>D91 } c2958143 { ; t= 0:37:04.05 ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 May 10, 1998 20:00:56 ; Par and Image Copyright 1998 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com or HWeber8606@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=carr2958 passes=t center-mag=-1.75655038157746900/-4.39929367874575700/51.72753/1/67.501 params=200/300/400/550 float=y maxiter=647 periodicity=0 colors=000R0A<3>b0Ee0Ff5I<10>zzs<7>fV7cQ0`O0<2>SI0<6>P60<2>G00<4>0Qc<6>8\ bcAdcDed<11>tupxwrzyt<7>ylDxj2wiK<3>vc4ua0ub3<3>vhJviNvjPwkR<7>zwu<13>wC\ M<7>H84<12>hMB<14>H84FB3PG3<6>zk0<3>0kk<2>WgD<3>CXF<7>KSDLSDMRCOQBORA<2>\ OK8OH7OE6NB5PC6<7>eLAhMBiOD<3>nVJ<3>vdByg8yh5yi3yg3<2>ga3<33>301<6>O09 } frm:Carr2958 {; Modified Sylvie Gallet frm. [101324,3444],1996 ; passes=1 needs to be used with this PHC formula. ; Converted to IF..ELSE logic by Sylvie Gallet, 02/21/98 b4 = abs(sinh(0.5+pixel/2))^3 - conj(0.1/pixel) - flip(0.1/pixel) + 0.5 if (whitesq) c = conj(b4)/10 + (-0.7456,-0.132) , z = zorig = sqr(b4) else c = - sqr(b4)/10 + (-0.7456,-0.132) , z = zorig = - conj(b4) endif imagp1 = imag(p1) , imagp2 = imag(p2) , bailout = 16 , iter = 0 : if (iter == p1) z = 0 , c = 0.15 * zorig + (-0.7456,-0.132) elseif (iter == imagp1) z = 0 , c = 0.225 * zorig + (-0.7456,-0.132) elseif (iter == p2) z = 0 , c = 0.3375 * zorig + (-0.7456,-0.132) elseif (iter == imagp2) z = 0 , c = 0.50625 * zorig + (-0.7456,-0.132) endif iter = iter + 1 z = z*z + c z <= bailout } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Preslar Subject: (fractint) Among the Stars website Date: 10 May 1998 14:35:31 -0500 Finally, after months of work putting together first the show, and then t= he website, I invite you to visit the "Among the Stars" website which docume= nts a project whereby I was able to combine two of my passions =97 fractals and= ballet. http://www.ParkeNet.org/jp/amongstars.html Julian Adamaitis, Don Archer, Bud Christenson, Dan Finton, Sylvie Gallet,= Terry W. Gintz, Alice Kelley, Garr Lystad, Bill Rossi, Les St. Clair, and Sharo= n Webb each graciously contributed images to the project. It was great fun to he= ar the audience's very positive reaction to seeing these unique images projected onstage inbetween the ballets. We are all searching, I think, for ways to share our love of fractals wit= h others and this project was a great success in that regard. Over 500 peop= le saw the two performances and some, I hope, have taken time to visit the websi= te and to then follow the links to some of the best fractal galleries on the web. The site is graphics intensive, of course =97 not only with the fractals,= but with photographs from the production. I hope you'll take the time to visit and= to let me know what you think. Janet Preslar mailto:preslar@memphisonline.com http://www.ParkeNet.org/jp =97 My home page http://www.ParkeNet.org/jp/amongstars.html =97 Among the Stars Project Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoff Stanton" Subject: Re: (fractint) nova frms Date: 10 May 1998 20:40:43 +0100 > Geoff... > > I have a link to the formulas off my homepage....in the "With Expert Assistance" > section > Thanks. Just what I needed. Geoff Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) Octet Minibrot Date: 10 May 1998 17:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Hmm...I noticed in both of these pars (the ones Angela and Sylvie posted) that the colors part was about twice as long as it was in the original par I posted. Does that mean you were using a higher resolution with more colors? I've been trying to set fractint at *anything* higher than 640x480 256 colors, but I either get a very flickery screen or fractint says 'that mode is not recognized by your video card'. Now, under Windows NT I can display at 1024x768 with 65536 colors, with NO flicker, so why won't fractint display at that resolution? Does anyone know how to get rid of the flicker? --Cliff http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ civil rights are not special rights Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: (fractint) Deep zooming Date: 10 May 1998 17:46:41 -0400 (EDT) I've been playing around with making really deep zooms (~1e10 magnification, about a million or so iterations) of the Mandelbrot set. Here's some nice images I found. (I learned how to use the palette editor today so all the color maps are my own.:) DeepSpiral { ; Cliff Crawford 1998 reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-0.50875428780802620/+0.52145166417949960/4.388083e+010 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=500000 inside=0 logmap=12070 colors=000z00<14>ZZZccc<7>zzz<6>00z<15>zz0<15>z00<15>00z<15>0zm<30>J2LK0\ KK1K<30>0zm<15>0Mc<15>zzz<30>zd2zc0zd0<14>zz0<14>z40 } DeepMini { ; Cliff Crawford 1998 reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-1.55536216159586300/+0.00000944894898022/1.311388e+012/1.000\ 1/15.001/-0.007 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=2000000 inside=0 logmap=45495 colors=00000e<86>zzx<12>OzyLzzKzz<11>5zz3zz2zz0zz0zz<103>00600`<28>00`00\ a00c } --Cliff http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ civil rights are not special rights Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Among the Stars website Date: 10 May 1998 18:22:46 -0400 At 02:35 PM 5/10/1998 -0500, you wrote: >Finally, after months of work putting together first the show, and then = the >website, I invite you to visit the "Among the Stars" website which documents a >project whereby I was able to combine two of my passions =97 fractals an= d ballet. > >http://www.ParkeNet.org/jp/amongstars.html (snipped) Quite a site! davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) Carlson formu Date: 10 May 1998 18:53:43 -0400 Hi wiz, >> wiz_spiralvalley { ; AVW 5/9/98 new color map flx-blk2.map ; from a Paul Carlson formula reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dmay98.frm formulaname=3Dspir_stalks_jul corners=3D-0.53691921/-0.479572948/0.802008049/0.780418614/-0.505911627= /0.\ 760664605 params=3D-0.36665/0.11573/0.02/0/8/30 float=3Dy maxiter=3D251= inside=3D253 outside=3Dsumm colors=3D000zzc<28>cKA000<28>0000wz<27>03C00A000<28>000fOz<28>K0F000<28= >00\ 0KKU<26>333222111000000<42>000 } << >>There......colors!!! Very nice! Here is what I came up with while waiting for your map: wzlspvl { ; = colors=3D000<14>z00<13>FB3<5>GN3HP3HR3IU3IU3<13>Oa0<11>OE4NB5PC6<18>xw6= zz5\ zx5<14>zH5zE6xE6<12>RB6OB6LA5J94H84F73000000<3>C04F05H15K25<8>gD1jF0kK6= <\ 7>zzs<7>fV7cQ0`O0<2>SI0<6>P60<2>G00<4>0Qc<6>8bcAdcDed<11>tupxwrzyt<7>yl= D\ xj2wiK<3>vc4ua0ub3<3>vhJviNvjPwkR<7>zwu<13>wCM<5>0bzN97H84 } Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) periodicity=nnn on menu Date: 10 May 1998 18:12:03 -0600 Would folks like to see the commandline control periodicity=nnn promoted to menu status? It would be OK with me if this were a permanent fixture. However, periodicity could easy change. Maybe I could make a "top secret developer's menu page" that is sort of the analogy of the "top secret developer's status screen". The idea is that the menu would be for convenience, but we wouldn't promise to keep the commands or their syntax the same from version to version. To play devil's advocate, why would you want periodicity=nnn in a menu since entering it via the command is so easy? Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: Re: (fractint) Among the Stars website Date: 10 May 1998 19:28:21 -0400 At 02:35 PM 10/05/98 -0500, you wrote: >...I invite you to visit the "Among the Stars" website which documents a >project whereby I was able to combine two of my passions =97 fractals and ballet. > >http://www.ParkeNet.org/jp/amongstars.html >... I hope you'll take the time to visit and to let >me know what you think. > >Janet Preslar I can best express my admiration by saying only that I felt *good* while viewing this site. Congratulations on a labour of obvious love. It's a good thing I had no idea you were working on this or I would have become too impatient to see the results... Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Preslar Subject: Re: (fractint) Among the Stars website Date: 10 May 1998 18:34:26 -0500 Jack =97 Thanks for the nice comments. I have to agree that it was a labor of love= and I really had to remind myself of that as I encountered all sorts of obstacl= es along the way! But in the end the performance surpassed my expectations a= nd contributed a little beauty to this world. That's what counts! Janet Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Octet Minibrot Date: 10 May 1998 17:26:07 -0700 Cliff... 256 colors is the max for fractint. I used one of the color maps available at http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/graphic_hints.htm Lots of people contributed color maps in both map format (zipped) and par format. You can download a few and maybe play around a bit to see how they work on your own images. Angela cjc26@cornell.edu wrote: > > Hmm...I noticed in both of these pars (the ones Angela and Sylvie posted) > that the colors part was about twice as long as it was in the original > par I posted. Does that mean you were using a higher resolution with > more colors? > > --Cliff > http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ > > civil rights are not special rights > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Among the Stars website Date: 10 May 1998 21:27:16 -0400 Janet, I greatly enjoyed visiting this beautiful site. Being on this list, I naturally valued the fractals, but I was very much impressed with the great photography too. This site is an interesting combination of three art forms. Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) periodicity=nnn on menu Date: 10 May 1998 21:41:30 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 10 May 1998, Tim Wegner wrote: > To play devil's advocate, why would you want periodicity=nnn in a > menu since entering it via the command is so easy? Because not all of us newbies know about the command. In fact, this newbie doesn't even know what 'periodicity=nnn' does in the first place :) --Cliff http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ civil rights are not special rights Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Got a new printer Date: 10 May 1998 22:04:04 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Earl Simpson wrote: > The only way to go is Epson Stylus 800 color printer. > Resolution varies from 180x180 dpi to 1440 x 720 dpi (the highest available > on any printer) Well, this is technically not quite true. There are color printing machines (usually used in publishing houses) that can do 2100 x 2100 dpi, but they cost tens of thousands of dollars. And Intel has some machines that can print 75,000 x 75,000 dpi or so, but they generally don't print in color. They use them to make Pentiums, among other things. :) Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: RE: (fractint) Anyone porting... Date: 10 May 1998 22:47:57 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 2 May 1998, Turner W. Rentz, III wrote: > A sad footnote here is that the post to the list, is C++ source code > for a new fractint program ; not one person responded to that - There are appropriate places to put a megabyte of C++ for a new fractint. Mailing lists are not among them. There are appropriate places to announce having put such things on a web site. The fractint-devel list (isn't that what it's called?) is one of them. The fractint list is moderately appropriate. > I have chosen you essentially at random; if you know of anyone > who sees the computer source code as something other than > "spam" please let me know; we might can work together to get > this code written. When you say `chosen you essentially at random', who are you referring to? The mailing list to which you sent the half-hearted apology I'm responding to? > I believe the stone soup group still exists somewhere... Yes. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VRCH78B@prodigy.com (MR CHARLES F CROCKER) Subject: (fractint) Ver 20 additions Date: 10 May 1998 22:48:14, -0500 Hi All I don't know how close Ver 20 is and I wouldn't want to make any changes that would slow it down. I have had a few words with Tim about a couple of changes that make sense to me. Let's see if I am a minority of one in these areas. Quotes are from Tim. >To play devil's advocate, why would you want periodicity=nnn in a >menu since entering it via the command is so easy? I wouldn't mind what menu it might appear on or leave it still to the command if the default were none. Entry from the command doesn't stick. Don't all inside coloring methods really depend on the itteration being run to the limit? Prematurely pulling out would leave the exit data depending on the periodicity function. Except for pictures with large high count areas the time saved wouldn't be much, particularly where processor speeds are getting so high. Even my P90 is 4000 times as fast as the system I started with 12 years ago. >Our reasoning (2which may not suit everyone) is that viewwindows >parameters are similar to video modes (maybe part of the "video >mode"). They are likely to be relative to a user's setup, so they >are not written to PAR files. I have noticed a few that use viewwindow for specil effects. My view has been that the default mode is great for previewing a slow scan, but of little utility beyond that. It's a sticky command that has to be explicity revoked. When it has been set it is written into a par file and included with the saved gif file. This can result in one picture in a series upsetting how another is displayed. Writing it into everything saved would solve things without having having to change its status. While I am up on my soapbox lets throw in one more item. Has the formulfile entry in parameter files outlived its usefullnes. Fractint searches fast and Orgform keeps the number of files to a minimum. With everyone keeping a different file arrangement one of the things I do in editing a posted par file is to delete the formulaname entry. The only trouble spot I see is that it might be necessary when the formula is burried in the parameter file. Admittedly this doesn't save much time, but why go looking in the wrong place first? Enough for now. Charles Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VRCH78B@prodigy.com (MR CHARLES F CROCKER) Subject: (fractint) Ver 20 additions Date: 10 May 1998 22:58:52, -0500 Hi All My apoligies for poor editing. It suddenly struck me that I said formula name in one place where I obviously meant formulafile. Charles Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) Fiddling around Date: 10 May 1998 23:13:39 -0400 A couple of "quickies": Fiddling_around { ; David Shanholtzer ; color map: dav41a reset=1960 type=mandel passes=t center-mag=-1.86177671495885500/-0.00000359488877766/95.72032 params=0.000315/0 float=y maxiter=575 inside=260 outside=atan colors=_7YM00<37>w65w65v65<67>F1FE0GG1I<12>lLq<30>G1IE0GF0G<29>jAglBhlBh\ <33>F1HE0GE0GE0G<25>J02J01K00L00 } Fiddling_around2 { ; David Shanholtzer ; color map: dsgoldsilver reset=1960 type=mandel passes=t center-mag=-1.86177671495885500/-0.00000359488877766/95.72032 params=0.000315/0 float=y maxiter=575 inside=260 outside=atan colors=000SHB<6>yhW<22>A20111<32>zzw<22>111MC7<6>yhW<14>A20000<55>000000\ 111222<36>zzw<42>111A20<2>OD8 } Regards, davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Double Exposure Dragons Formula Date: 10 May 1998 22:49:29 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula applies the "double exposure" rendering method to the Julia sets of Newtons's solution of (w*w-1)*(w*w+c)=0. The coordinates for the Julia sets were picked off two of the midgets from the pars included with the Dbl_Expos_Newt1 formula. The second par I made especially for Linda (Gumbycat) who really liked the image with the midget that was used for that Julia set. The degree of symmetry in these images is the same as that of the the images containing the midgets from which the Julia set coordinates were picked. Sometime in the near (I hope) future I'll go into detail on how to find the tiny "dragons" (they're infinite in number in a properly chosen Newton Julia set). I hope you enjoy these double exposure dragons - they are probably different than any Julia dragons you've seen before (at least their surroundings are). Paul Carlson } frm:Dbl_Exp_Newt1_J {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; ; real(p1) = a factor controlling the size of the stalks ; imag(p1) = minimum iterations ; real(p2) = convergence test distance ; imag(p2) = color scheme: ; 1 = 8 ranges, 30 colors per range (default) ; 2 = 2 ranges, 125 colors per range ; p3 = Julia set coordinates ; z = bailout = iter = range_num = dist = 0 w = pixel c = p3 cm1 = c - 1 tcm1 = cm1 + cm1 sc = sqrt(-c) stalk_width = real(p1) skip_iters = imag(p1) cdist = real(p2) IF (imag(p2) == 2) num_ranges = 2 colors_in_range = 125 ELSE num_ranges = 8 colors_in_range = 30 ENDIF index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width : w2 = w * w w = w - (w2 * w2 + cm1 * w2 - c) / (4 * w2 * w + tcm1 * w) ; IF (iter > skip_iters) IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w))) min_dist = abs(real(w)) ELSE min_dist = abs(imag(w)) ENDIF IF (dist == 0 && min_dist < stalk_width) dist = min_dist ENDIF IF (|w + (-1,0)| < cdist) bailout = 1 ELSEIF (|w + (1,0)| < cdist) bailout = 1 ELSEIF (|w + sc| < cdist) bailout = 1 ELSEIF (|w - sc| < cdist) bailout = 1 ENDIF ENDIF IF (bailout == 1) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20 } dbexntj1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnt1j.frm formulaname=dbl_exp_newt1_j passes=t center-mag=-0.05562763234306169/+0.05462019519570405/2806.978\ /1/-44.999 params=0.1/50/1e-007/2/0.99933510184/0.03646053069 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } dbexntj2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnt1j.frm formulaname=dbl_exp_newt1_j passes=t center-mag=-0.04970475011584191/+0.05511014311616688/951.9526\ /1/-160 params=0.1/10/1e-007/1/30.450762553/-0.006872433 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) correction Date: 10 May 1998 22:58:15 -0500 (CDT) In my "Double Exposure Dragons Formula" posting a few minutes ago I mistakenly said I made the second par especially for Linda (Gumbycat). Wrong - I should have said the first par, not the second one. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: (fractint) FC2K images Date: 10 May 1998 21:02:55 -0700 (MST) Recently, Rollo Silver posted, soliciting contributions to the 2000 Fractal Calendar. Here, for you Fractint enjoyment, are some of the images I submitted. Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com frm:nearline01_jul { ; Kerry Mitchell ; ; color Julia sets with nearest approach to a given line ; line given by parameter c (first iterate of 0) ; so color lines pass through 0 on first iteration ; ; use outside=iter, decomp=256 ; p1 = Julia parameter ; real(p2) = bailout (large--try 1e12) ; zc is the variable used for iteration, z for coloring ; zc=pixel, c=p1, maxr=real(p2), minr=maxr ct=imag(c), st=real(c), iter=1: ; ; iteration ; find distance to line, r ; if r < minimum, update minimum to r ; iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+c, rzc=|zc| r=|ct*real(zc)-st*imag(zc)| if (rmaxr)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 angle=log(minr) z=cos(angle)+flip(sin(angle)) end if iter>0 } frm:bubbleboth_jul { ; Kerry Mitchell ; ; color Julia sets with small bubbles ; filled with swirls (combination of rays and circles) ; ; use outside=iter, decomp=256 ; p1 = Julia parameter ; real(p2) = bailout (at least 4) ; imag(p2) = radius of bubble (try ~ .1) ; real(p3) = amount of circles (0 for only rays, try 0.5) ; imag(p3) = amount of rays (0 for only circles, try 0.5) ; zc is the variable used for iteration, z for coloring ; zc=pixel, c=p1, maxr=real(p2), minr=imag(p2), scale=2*pi/minr minset=0, iter=1, rzc=cabs(zc), minzc=zc weight=real(p3)+imag(p3) weightc=real(p3)/weight, weightr=imag(p3)/weight ; ; initial check: see if pixel magnitude falls within threshold ; if so, set minset flag, update minimum to current magnitude ; if (rzcmaxr)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 anglec=scale*minr, angler=imag(log(minzc)) angle=weightc*anglec+weightr*angler z=(cos(angle)+flip(sin(angle)))*minset end if iter > 0 } frm:ave8xlty_man { ; Kerry Mitchell 13feb98 ; real(p1) = bailout (try 10) ; imag(p1) = rounding factor (try 1) ; real(p2) = inner coloring speed (0 for outer only) ; imag(p2) = outer coloring speed (0 for inner only) ; fn1 = arbitrary function (try log) zc=0, c=pixel, iter=1, maxr=real(p1), count=0 b1=maxr, fac=b1^0.125, b2=b1*fac, b3=b2*fac b4=b3*fac, b5=b4*fac, b6=b5*fac, b7=b6*fac, b8=b7*fac iter1=iter2=iter3=iter4=iter5=iter6=iter7=iter8=0 inspeed=real(p2)*pi*255/128, roundfac=imag(p1) outspeed=imag(p2)*pi*255/128: iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+c, r2zc=|zc| temp=fn1(zc)/roundfac, frac=roundfac*(temp-round(temp)) if (real(frac)b1) if (iter1==0) iter1=iter, q1=count/iter endif if (r2zc>b2) if (iter2==0) iter2=iter, q2=count/iter endif if (r2zc>b3) if (iter3==0) iter3=iter, q3=count/iter endif if (r2zc>b4) if (iter4==0) iter4=iter, q4=count/iter endif if (r2zc>b5) if (iter5==0) iter5=iter, q5=count/iter endif if (r2zc>b6) if (iter6==0) iter6=iter, q6=count/iter endif if (r2zc>b7) if (iter7==0) iter7=iter, q7=count/iter endif if (r2zc>b8) if (iter8==0) iter8=iter, q8=count/iter endif iter=-1 q=(q1+q2+q3+q4+q5+q6+q7+q8)*0.125 angle=q*outspeed z=cos(angle)+flip(sin(angle)) endif endif endif endif endif endif endif endif if (iter==maxit) q=count/iter angle=q*inspeed z=cos(angle)+flip(sin(angle)) iter=-1 end if iter>0 } frm:gaussinttot_jul { ; Kerry Mitchell ; ; Gaussian integer coloring of Julia sets ; color by average distance to nearest integer ; inside and outside handled the same way ; ; use decomp=256 ; p1 = Julia parameter ; real(p2) = bailout (try 1e12) ; imag(p2) = scaling factor (try 30) ; variable zc used for calculation; coloring done with z ; zc=pixel, c=p1, rmax=real(p2), scale=imag(p2) iter=1, rmin=1, z=zc, tot=0: ; ; iteration ; zr = gaussian integer ; r = distance to zr ; zmin = integer with minimum distance ; tot = running sum of r's ; iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+c, rzc=|zc| zr=round(zc), r=|zc-zr|, tot=tot+r ; ; bailout ; scale average distance to decomp angle ; set "iteration done" flag (iter=-1) ; if ((rzc>rmax)||(iter==maxit)) angle=scale*tot/(iter-1) z=cos(angle)+flip(sin(angle)) iter=-1 end if iter>0 } frm:gaussintr_man { ; Kerry Mitchell ; ; Gaussian integer coloring of Mandelbrot set ; color by magnitude of nearest gaussian integer ; inside and outside handled the same way ; ; use decomp=256 ; real(p1) = bailout (try 1e12) ; variable zc used for calculation; coloring done with z ; zc=0, c=pixel, iter=1, rmax=real(p1), rmin=1: ; ; iteration ; zr = gaussian integer ; r = distance to zr ; zmin = integer with minimum distance ; iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+c, zr=round(zc), r=|zc-zr|, if (rrmax)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 angle=log(cabs(zmin)+1) z=cos(angle)+flip(sin(angle)) end if iter>0 } paint { ; "Splatter Paint" copyright 1998 Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=gaussintr_man passes=1 center-mag=-0.81049181278603110/+0.20246399896589420/320.1844/1.333333 params=4/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=000000O00k00z80zW0zs0zzGzzczzzbzzFzz0qz0Uz06z00i00M100P00l00z90zX\ 0zt0zzIzzexzz`zzDzz0pz0Tz05z00h00L300R00n00zB0zZ0zv0zzJzzfwzz_zzCzz0nz0R\ z03z00f00J400S00o00zC0z_0zw0zzLzzhuzzYzzAzz0mz0Qz02z00e00I600U00q00zE0za\ 0zy0zzMzzitzzXzz9zz0kz0Oz00z00c00G700V00r00zF0zb0zz0zzOzzkrzzVzz7zz0jz0N\ z00z00b00F900X00t00zH0zd0zz1zzPzzlqzzUzz6zz0hz0Lz00x00`00DA00Y00u00zI0ze\ 0zz3zzRzznozzSzz4zz0gz0Kz00w00_00CC00_00w00zK0zg0zz4zzSzzonzzRzz3zz0ez0I\ z00u00Y00AD00`00x00zL0zh0zz6zzUzzqlzzPzz1zz0dz0Hz00t00X009F00b00z00zN0zj\ 0zz7zzVzzrkzzOzz0zz0bz0Fz00r00V007G00c00z00zO0zk0zz9zzXzztizzMzz0yz0az0E\ z00q00U006I00e00z20zQ0zm0zzAzzYzzuhzzLzz0wz0_z0Cz00o00S004J00f00z30zR0zn\ 0zzCzz_zzwfzzJzz0vz0Zz0Bz00n00R003L00h00z50zT0zp0zzDzz`zzxezzIzz0tz0Xz09\ z00l00P001M00i00z60zU0zq0zzFzzbzzzczzGzz0sz0Wz08z00k00O } nebula { ; copyright 1998 Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=gaussinttot_jul passes=1 center-mag=-0.51143775992349360/+0.17382528491600080/63.77551/1.333333 params=0.28/0.005/1e12/100 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=GTg<17>AKYAJXAJWAIVAIU<2>8GS8GR8FR8FQ7EP<27>001000001<37>AJXBKXBK\ YBLYCLZ<18>HUiIViIVjJWkJWk<19>RetRftSftSgtTgt<2>UivVjvVjvVjv<2>YlwYlwZmw\ Zmx_nx<8>crydsyesyftygty<2>jvzjwzkwzlwz<4>tzzzzztzz<4>lwzkwzjvzivzhuz<10\ >`px`ox_ox_nxZnx<5>WkvVjvVjvViv<10>QdsPcrPcrObqObq<19>HTh } shades-of-meaning { ; copyright 1998 Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=average.frm formulaname=ave8xlty_man function=recip center-mag=-0.5/0/0.6/1.333333/-90 params=100/2/1/1 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=zzzvzz<3>qyzpyzpxz<9>jvzivzivziuz<16>bqyaqyaqyapyapyapy<2>_oy_oy_\ ox_oxZnx<23>ThuThuThuTguSguSgu<57>HThHThGThGTgGSgGSg<39>9IW9IV9IV9HU9HU<\ 69>000 cyclerange=0/255 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 } horse { ; "Just Seahorsin' Around" copyright 1998 Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=ave8z1gtz2_man viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 center-mag=-0.74359110937120150/+0.13797992562328580/124.0249/1.333333/-78 params=1410065408/0/2/4 float=y maxiter=4000 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=00M<5>004001100<20>z00<20>zz0<19>zzwzzzxzz<18>4zz1zz0yz<20>00z<20\ >000000<20>z00<19>zv0zy0zz1<20>zzz<20>0zz<20>00z<12>00P } elephant-down { ; copyright 1998 Kerry Mitchell ; How do you get down from a duck? ; You don't--you get down from an elephant. reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=bubbleboth_jul passes=1 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 center-mag=-0.327896/0.602347/1.964667/1.333333 decomp=256 params=0.3/0.01/1000/0.24175/3/1 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 colors=000<10>00t00z20z50z70zA0z<7>o0z<2>w6tz9qzDm<10>zz0<10>Uz0Rz0Px0Nu\ 0Ls0Ip0<3>BW0<2>380001006<8>00p00v00z<2>80zB0zG0z<4>e0zk0zo0z<3>zAp<11>z\ z0<11>Rz0<2>Kr0Io0Gj0Fe0D_0BU08M05E0360002<9>00r00w10z30z60z80zC0z<5>g0z\ l0zp1ys3wu5ux7szBo<9>zs7zw3yz0<10>Tz0Qy0Ow0Mt0Kr0In0Gi0Ec0CZ0<3>240003<1\ 0>00x10z40z60z90zD0z<5>h0zm0zq1ys3wv6ty8r<11>zx2xz0<11>Qy0Ov0Lt0Jq0Hm0Fg\ 0Eb0CY0<3>120 cyclerange=0/255 periodicity=0 } warrior { ; copyright 1998 Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=nearline01_jul center-mag=0/0/0.8069145/1.2294/-11 params=-0.125/0.649519052838/1000000/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=r01<7>z00z00z11<60>zyyzzzyyz<60>11z00z00z00y<60>001000001<54>q01 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) periodicity=nnn on menu Date: 11 May 1998 00:27:34 -0700 At 06:12 PM 5/10/98 -0600, Tim wrote: >Would folks like to see the commandline control periodicity=nnn >promoted to menu status? >... >To play devil's advocate, why would you want periodicity=nnn in a >menu since entering it via the command is so easy? Oh, I don't know. Because I'm lazy and my memory's flakey? Also because I'd like to be able to easily check its status. Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry W. Gintz" Subject: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 01:48:39 -0700 Now that I am out of the shareware market, perhaps people won't accuse me of having "vested" interests in the following criticism. I don't use Fractint, per se, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see improvements made in it, especially the user-interface. Anyone afraid of having some of their most basic beliefs in Fractint challenged need not read on. New to this list, I'm not quite sure of the direction of Fractint, but I've been told that it will presumably support true color in the version after v20. I'm getting the strong feeling, just from the brief time I've had to browse the numerous messages on the list, that the programmers of Fractint intend to keep the same DOS-style interface in future versions. If that isn't the case, then the following may be overstated, but if true... IMO, this is a big mistake, as WinFract could have much more than its present psuedo-Windows-compatible content. More on this below. With all the hype I have read about the greatness of Fractint, why is it so hard for its programmers to get a real handle on Windows programming? Is it because to understand Windows coding, you have to like Windows? It all goes back to the original demand for maximum speed, and the apparent overhead of Windows that makes graphics "unacceptably" slow. Like the DOS interface, this notion is obsolete. Fractal programming benefits from assembly-language coding, true, but Windows certainly doesn't restrict the programmer there. Almost all the speed-up techniques Fractint uses in its DOS version can be applied in a Windows program. What is left to complain about? Mainly that the screen can't be drawn in a second or two, like a DOS program can do by getting "under" the system's graphics layers. So for the sake of a few seconds draw time, the most powerful version of Fractint(not necessarily the most powerful fractal program anymore) keeps a character-based windowing interface and an archaic help system. I have some reservations about whether the screen-draw time is even an issue these days, as I have a Windows program that draws Fractint's opening screen(the Mandelbrot set) in true color in 4 seconds or less(800X600 at 233 Mhz) without the extensive optimization that Fractint uses(like symmetry and periodocity.) The combination of assembly language and solid guessing is as effective in Windows as in DOS. Or are there other considerations we aren't being informed about? Is it the screen draw time, or plain stubbornness, or just incompetence? I don't throw this out lightly. I've used WinFract some in Windows 3.1, and that was hardly a graceful multitask promoting program. Numerous bugs made it crash or mess up Windows. The help file was much abbreviated from the full DOS version, which made it hard to understand some features without reading the DOS help file. No attempt to upgrade this poor showing to a Windows 95 program. Even less attempt to include what the DOS version of Fractint now includes. I would welcome a chance to contribute to a genuine Windows 95 version of Fractint, one that would once and for all lay the "DOS" version to rest. (Who today prefers the DOS command line interface to the clarity and elegance of Windows 95? Or it need not be compared to Windows 95, but any up-to-date windowing system, such as Macintosh or X-Windows...) I couldn't make this offer when my programs were still shareware, but I'd sure like to improve the quality of fractal artistry as it now stands. There is much in my own programs that would add to the power of Fractint, including true color, AVI and midi support. The problem I have now is deciphering much of the abstract(optimizing) code that Fractint has accumulated over the years. Maybe there is a master decryption log to explain all the routines in Fractint's source code, because as it is distributed now, no one programmer could understand it all(without a log book.) If there is any attempt to keep a Windows 95 version current and maintainable, complete documentation for all source code, as well as program options, is necessary. Any comments, Tim? Best Regards, Terry W. Gintz -- twgg@ix.netcom.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/5601/ http://www.zenweb.com/pan/rayn/twg/ http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/palette/31/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 06:42:41 -0400 I'm sorry, but when a drawing takes 7 weeks to finish, DOS *IS* faster = than windows. Pete // -----Original Message----- // From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com // [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Terry W. = Gintz // Sent: Monday, May 11, 1998 4:49 AM // To: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Subject: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond // =20 // =20 [snipped] Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Petr Lobaz Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 13:23:27 +0200 (MET DST) You think of windows menus? It means that you MUST do everything using mouse, then put your hands on the keyboard, move with mouse, type another information and so on. I bet that I can work with current version of Fractint several times faster than with this strange combination of mouse and keyboard. And to make everything available from mouse control? This contolling of program would be so SLOOOW. You asked for people who like DOS command line. Command.com doesn't have such nice features like for example Bourne Again Shell (bash), but I can work with DOS prompt much faster than with mouse. Don't forget that many programmers are quite good keyboard users. Petr Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) fractint v20 Date: 11 May 1998 08:26:24 -0400 Terry, >>Who today prefers the DOS command line interface to the clarity and elegance of Windows 95? << I prefer the clarity, elegance and speed of DOS! Lee Skinner Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) periodicity=n Date: 11 May 1998 08:26:26 -0400 Cliff, >>Because not all of us newbies know about the command. In fact, thi= s newbie doesn't even know what 'periodicity=3Dnnn' does in the first place= << Newbies should first execute the command "Fractint makedoc", print out fractint.doc, and then spend a little time studying the documentation. Lo= ts of good stuff in there! Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Preslar Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 07:32:26 -0500 Just my two cents worth . . . I have not generated more than a dozen fractals in more than a year because I could not afford to give up the time on my old and very slow machine which forced me to choose between making a fractal or doing all of the other things I use a computer for. Yet I have kept up with this list, and read each message, in the hopes that one day I would upgrade my hardware and be able to catch up with the rest of you. So last month I did just that. I now have a PII/333, 8M of video RAM, a 19" monitor AND a video card that is not compatible with FractInt. Now I did my research on video cards, asking for advice from this list, and I got a few answers about what works but none on which cards don't work. So I bought the system which (I thought) best suited my needs. I have asked for and received as much help from the list as it apparently is capable of giving. And I've found that there are at least two other users with the same card (Diamond Fire GL 1000) who are equally as frustrated as I. I have installed Display Doctor which says that I now have 59 modes available that FractInt cannot communicate with. I am seeking help from both Diamond and SciTech, but I am none too optimistic. My question is: if FractInt continues to be a DOS program, what is going to happen as the rest of you upgrade and find that fewer and fewer video card manufacturers provide any sort of VESA or DOS support? From all I can tell, that is more likely to happen than is the move to Windows. I vote for someone taking Terry up on his offer to help. Sorry for the harangue, guys, but my frustration level is rather high these days. Janet Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Filtering images with Fractint Date: 11 May 1998 09:06:05 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 2 May 1998, Weldon Morgan wrote: > Part of the reason I became interested in Fractint had to do with the > possibility of improving the resolution of photographic images through the > use of fractel technology. As I understand it, one can use the fractel > algorithm to simulate the pixel information that does not exist in the > original image. Does anyone on this list have any information on this > process, or can point me in the right direction I haven't heard of the idea. Sounds interesting. There's going to be a finite limit to your improvements, though, even if it's possible to do this at all, on information-theoretic grounds. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 09:06:24 -0400 At 01:48 AM 11/05/98 -0700, Terry Gintz wrote: >Now that I am out of the shareware market, perhaps people won't accuse me >of having "vested" interests in the following criticism. As you don't seem to have made a concentrated marketing effort, I doubt any such accusations would be warranted or worth considering. >With all the hype I have read about the greatness of Fractint, why is it >so hard for its programmers to get a real handle on Windows programming? I have the impression that it is not that they can't; it is that they just haven't been interested. Instead, they have concentrated on adding features and improvements. Given a choice between these or a more modern interface, I personally prefer the former. >Is it because to understand Windows coding, you have to like Windows? It >all goes back to the original demand for maximum speed, and the apparent >overhead of Windows that makes graphics "unacceptably" slow. Like the >DOS interface, this notion is obsolete. >.. I have some reservations about whether the >screen-draw time is even an issue these days, as I have a Windows program >that draws Fractint's opening screen(the Mandelbrot set) in true color in >4 seconds or less(800X600 at 233 Mhz) without the extensive optimization >that Fractint uses(like symmetry and periodocity.) I actually like the Windows and Mac interfaces but I also still like MS-DOS. I am not a Luddite but because I hate compulsive consumerism I still use an antiquated 486-DX 100 with 20 megs ram and a 550 hard disk. I keep considering upgrading but for the graphic work I do, a middle road Pentium seems only to be about twice as fast in real world terms. 8 hour renderings would only take 4 but this is still too long to sit and watch. I cope quite well by running them overnight. GUI programs are certainly easier to use and much friendlier than DOS based ones. Still, even my tired computer is a miracle compared to my early 64k 8080(?) boxes with 5 meg hard disks. But whereas my old WordStar word processor used 90k (not a typo) of disk space current wps typically use 20 megs or more and this is typical of powerful gui based programs. In reality, for core functionality, my current wonder box is no more powerful, bigger or faster than my old systems. As very much a former programmer, I realize that it doesn't *have* to be this way but in the real world it is. Programmers understandably find it easier and faster to use high level languages, libraries, etc than assembly. It is also tempting to forget about optimization because it is so easy to rely on today's typical machine speeds to compensate for their lack. Windows is not nearly the encumbrance some would have us believe, but it does add another layer of code to be executed, etc, etc. This has to slow things down at least a bit. I suspect there are a lot more users in similar circumstances than we would like to admit. So for me, sometimes there is still room for old-style dos programs. But if the mantra is "upgrade, upgrade, upgrade" I agree with most of what you have said. Dos lovers will undoubtably regale you with stories of keyboard speed vs mouse but they are ignoring the amount of time invested to make all those arcane and illogical key combinations second nature. Besides, when the image rendering takes so long, how significant is a second or two of entry speed saved? (Not to mention that gui programs can, and do, offer keyboard equivalents as well) >Or are there other considerations we aren't being informed about? Is it >the screen draw time, or plain stubbornness, or just incompetence? I >don't throw this out lightly. I've used WinFract some in Windows 3.1, >and that was hardly a graceful multitask promoting program. Numerous >bugs made it crash or mess up Windows. The help file was much >abbreviated from the full DOS version, which made it hard to understand >some features without reading the DOS help file. No attempt to upgrade >this poor showing to a Windows 95 program. Even less attempt to include >what the DOS version of Fractint now includes. Again, my impression is that WinFract was a quick port by a single person intended only to give a taste of fractals to the Windows restricted user. I never had it corrupt Windows although it did occasionally crash. But no program I have ever used extensively (dos or windows) has failed to crash for me at one time or another. In the Fractint world, WinFract might almost be considered an aberration. I agree that in general WinFract is a terrible example of Windows programming but that's because underneath it all, it isn't really a Windows program. It is unfair to base your complaints on it. Fractint is not evenly remotely related to perfection and I am not married to it. But of the fractal generators I have used it seems to have the greatest flexibility, the most options, the best documentation and an absolutely huge and active following. This has made Fractint not so much a program as an experience- not a bad thing. This notwithstanding, I frequently find features in other Windows fractal generators that I dearly would love to see in Fractint. Bottom line- no single program is likely to become all things to all people but Fractint has been a brave effort. >The problem I have now is >deciphering much of the abstract(optimizing) code that Fractint has >accumulated over the years. Maybe there is a master decryption log to >explain all the routines in Fractint's source code, because as it is >distributed now, no one programmer could understand it all(without a log >book.) If there is any attempt to keep a Windows 95 version current and >maintainable, complete documentation for all source code, as well as >program options, is necessary. This time, I think you are understating the problem. I have managed large teams of personnel, motivated by salaries, and it was difficult enough to keep them on track. Trying to control a group of unpaid programmers separated by geography, time and programming philosophy may approach the miraculous! I am not minimizing the efforts of the Fractint programmers when I say that Fractint owes its status not to its coders, but its users. It is far from perfect but it has depth. You should not be surprised if its users defend it passionately. Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 07:16:01 -0700 I for one would very very much like a fully (more or less) functional Winfract. Since most of my Winders programs use "hotkeys", I'm assuming the mousely objections could be overcome. A Shift+key combo comes to mind. Now...I also like to run Fractint under DOS...but....there are times when I'd prefer to stay in true Winders and multi-task. Why....I could let Winfract render in the background while chatting!!!! or posting all those pars and frms!!!! I can live without color cycling in a Winfract version, but the addition of being able to construct a color map would be a very useful one. I know I can do that quite nicely in some of the existing winders-based fractal programs.....but NO sliders please!!! a nice little pallet like we have now. Think of the very simple need to view all the pars posted to this list........wouldn't it be nice to have them rendering while composing scintillating comments to the authors? All problems with winders aside.......multitasking is better than using at a single DOS app, no matter how fast. Angela Petr Lobaz wrote: > > You think of windows menus? It means that you MUST do everything using > mouse, then put your hands on the keyboard, move with mouse, type > another information and so on. I bet that I can work with current version > of Fractint several times faster than with this strange combination of > mouse and keyboard. And to make everything available from mouse control? > This contolling of program would be so SLOOOW. You asked for people who > like DOS command line. Command.com doesn't have such nice features like > for example Bourne Again Shell (bash), but I can work with DOS prompt much > faster than with mouse. Don't forget that many programmers are quite good > keyboard users. > > Petr Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) periodicity=n Date: 11 May 1998 07:18:25 -0700 Lee... I did that after Bob Margolis suggested it to me off line. But...this is one of those chicken and egg things for a newbie like me....I don't know about makedoc until I read the documentation....which I can read after I use makedoc......and I learn about makedoc from the documentation......and ..... Angela Lee Skinner wrote: > > Cliff, > > >>Because not all of us newbies know about the command. In fact, this > newbie doesn't even know what 'periodicity=nnn' does in the first place << > > Newbies should first execute the command "Fractint makedoc", print out > fractint.doc, and then spend a little time studying the documentation. Lots > of good stuff in there! > > Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 07:39:29 -0700 Jack... I think your comments were right on!!! I'd like to add that when I'm going to seriously work on fractals, I'm always going to choose the DOS version of Fractint. But there are often times when I'm in "mess around mode" and a Winfract that could at least "see" all the new pars would be my choice......even with it's other current limitations. Angela Jack Valero wrote: > > <> > I actually like the Windows and Mac interfaces but I also still like > MS-DOS. I am not a Luddite but because I hate compulsive consumerism > I still use an antiquated 486-DX 100 with 20 megs ram and a 550 hard > disk. I keep considering upgrading but for the graphic work I do, > a middle road Pentium seems only to be about twice as fast in > real world terms. 8 hour renderings would only take 4 but this > is still too long to sit and watch. I cope quite well by running > them overnight. > <> Besides, when the image rendering takes > so long, how significant is a second or two of entry speed saved? > (Not to mention that gui programs can, and do, offer keyboard > equivalents as well) > <> I agree that in general WinFract is > a terrible example of Windows programming but that's because > underneath it all, it isn't really a Windows program. It is > unfair to base your complaints on it. > > Fractint is not evenly remotely related to perfection and I am > not married to it. But of the fractal generators I have used > it seems to have the greatest flexibility, the most options, the > best documentation and an absolutely huge and active following. > This has made Fractint not so much a program as an experience- > not a bad thing. This notwithstanding, I frequently find > features in other Windows fractal generators that I dearly > would love to see in Fractint. Bottom line- no single > program is likely to become all things to all people > but Fractint has been a brave effort. > <> > > I am not minimizing the efforts of the Fractint programmers > when I say that Fractint owes its status not to its coders, > but its users. It is far from perfect but it has depth. You > should not be surprised if its users defend it passionately. > > Regards - Jack > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) periodicity=n Date: 11 May 1998 10:27:27 -0400 Angela, >>..I don't know about makedoc until I read the documentation....which I can read after I use makedoc......and I learn about makedoc from the documentation......and .....<< Fractint comes with a very short file called fractint.doc. If one reads it, it tells how to create the full documentation file using makedoc. Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) periodicity=n Date: 11 May 1998 08:25:51 -0700 Lee... The operative word in your message is "IF." Picture yourself a newbie.....you check 1. The documentation at Spanky (really good) 2. The help that pops up under F1 (also good) 3. The read.me file that comes with Fractint (which says very little) I'll bet if you try that yourself you'll be unlikely to figure out that the makedoc feature is available. I just went thru that drill. IF you can spot the makedoc.doc file in the listing of stuff that makes up Fractint and decide to read it, you are home free. Personally, I never saw it until Bob told me about it. BTW, I think Fractint's documentation is MUCH better than many (make that most) commercial graphics programs I own. When I see the word "intuitive" in a program's advertising hype....I think....Ut OH, lousey documentation, eh???? The stuff from Metatools tops my list of good, but obscure programs. Anyway, I think the addition of a line or two at Spanky about the makedoc feature would be very helpful for new users. To me the obvious place is right under the "GET FRACTINT" words. The F1 help that comes with Fractint allowed me to figure enough out to be able to start working with the program, but it would have been nice to have had a printed version I could refer to as well. I just never knew it was available. Angela Lee Skinner wrote: > > Angela, > > >>..I don't know about makedoc until I read the documentation....which I > can read after I use makedoc......and I learn about makedoc from the > documentation......and .....<< > > Fractint comes with a very short file called fractint.doc. If one reads > it, it tells how to create the full documentation file using makedoc. > > Lee > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 Date: 11 May 1998 08:50:39 -0700 (MST) > >>Who today prefers the DOS command line interface to the clarity and > elegance of Windows 95? << While it may be personal prejudice, stubborness, idiocy, or all of the above, I perfer DOS programs to Windows, at least, DOS Fractint to other fractal programs. One issue for any fractal program to consider: batch mode. Fractals now being rendered can be so big and take so long, that running batch is the only practical way to do it. I don't believe that this is limited to DOS programs, but many windowing programs don't have it as an option. Kerry Mitchell Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Double Exposure Dragons Formula Date: 11 May 1998 08:48:22 -0700 Beautiful, Paul! I like that one even more! Thank you! Linda >comment { >This formula applies the "double exposure" rendering method >to the Julia sets of Newtons's solution of (w*w-1)*(w*w+c)=0. >The coordinates for the Julia sets were picked off two of the >midgets from the pars included with the Dbl_Expos_Newt1 >formula. The second par I made especially for Linda (Gumbycat) >who really liked the image with the midget that was used for >that Julia set. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jiho Kim Subject: (fractint) Re: fractint v20 and other stuff Date: 11 May 1998 08:57:01 -0700 (PDT) There's no doubt that the windows version of fractint would be a great benefit for all of us who use win 95/nt, but you can't get around the speed of DOS for renderings that take weeks (for those who can get away with not having a computer for weeks or have dedicated machines of fractint)... especially for those working on their own formulas with relatively big zooms and high iterations. And would it be fractINT anymore? Also, is there a way to compile formulas into some sort of code that will execute more quickly? I'm not really programming savvy... So, I wouldn't know. But, from what I DO know, it's possible to make some your own implementation in C, but you'd have to recompile... Since I don't have a C compiler, I can't (besides the fact that I haven't learned C...). So, can someone make a compiler which would just a formula compiler which can be just called from fractint, theoretically? Also, how will win 98 and nt 5 affect fractint multitasking abilities? HAL probably would sitll be a problem in NT, but I don't really know anything at win 98. Will it handle DOS memory usage better? Also, can someone explain to me (privately, if needed) why fractint doesn't perform well under win 95 (like when you swap out of the dos program into something else) for certain video modes? Just more annoying questions, Jiho Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) nova frms Date: 11 May 1998 11:49:46 -0500 Geoff, - I seem to have lost the Nova frm's. - I especially need "DMJ-NOVA-SPI-DEC-I". http://www.fractalus.com/misc/dmj-pub.zip Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) periodicity=nnn on menu Date: 11 May 1998 11:53:47 -0500 Tim, - Would folks like to see the commandline control periodicity=nnn - promoted to menu status? I would. It's critical for a lot of formula types (especially convergent iterators like Newton's method fractals). - To play devil's advocate, why would you want periodicity=nnn in a - menu since entering it via the command is so easy? Because pressing a single key for it, or even two keys, is a lot easier than typing p e r i o d i c i t y = 0 :) I can't count the number of times I've misspelled it and received a complaint from FractInt. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Spanish Tile Date: 11 May 1998 09:31:05 -0700 From one of Paul Carlson's formulas.... wiz_spanishtile { ; Angela Wilczynski 5/9/98 ; from a Paul Carlson formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=MyEqn_Julia center-mag=-2.9976e-015/1.33227e-015/0.5612156/1.3333/180 params=1/0/5/0.05/5/30 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000R9Q<29>zzm<28>58f26e25g13i12k00m<12>34Q00N<15>znZ<13>S87L97EA7\ <2>D5IC4MB2QA0UE3X<8>mUw<10>A0K<7>m0K<11>O0DM0CK0BH0AA0A<6>mwz<10>00C<8>\ 00N62O<8>m0K<14>ZDFYEEWDC<6>KA0<8>zzm<12>A00A03A06A0A<3>K5IN6KO7NQ8Q } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tony Hanmer" Subject: (fractint) Some wishes Date: 11 May 1998 19:24:08 +0400 (MSD) Hi from a Fractint user of about 8 months - fabulous program, though dangerous for a fanatic like me! I'd like to see: Zoomable L-System types (I WANT to compile a huge detailed dragon curve) A utility to start off with, say, the smallest zoom box of a screen, in one of the corners, and calculate the rest of the whole screen, box by box (yes, I know that's 400 or so gifs), seamlessly, AND then paste them together in one huge image. (I did this myself with 144 gifs, and the result at 35 MB is great, but it just about drove me crazy compiling it in Photoshop. Like I said, fanatic.) A dragon curve with rounded corners, e.g. as one continuous line! PLEASE! Other variations of the dragon curve - try 2 folds in each direction, or 1 right 2 left, etc. Is there a 3D analogue of the beastie?! A much larger scren, mono, for L-system types: e.g. 10 000 x 15 000 pixels... Viewable only in other programs, of course, if necessary. Other fractals or objects to include in Fractint (I can't do the math but I have ideas), from The Penguin Dictionary of Curious and Interesting Geometry: Appolonian Gasket, p 3 Blancmange curve, p 17 Spirals: Archimedian p 8, logarithmic p 68, Fermat p 74 Gaussian primes, p 85 Harmonograph, p 92 Perron tree, p 129 Koch's Anti-snowflake, p 136 Packing circles rigidly, p 167 Poincare's circle, p 189 Triangular tessellations, p 258 spiral-similarity tessellation & spirolaterals, pp 239-241 Versatile tessellations, p 269 Some pretty weird stuff there... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 18:58:49 +0200 Non-programmer, new fractint user speaking. Also, general hater of Microsnot bloatware and the assumption that users will always go out and buy faster machines, bigger screens and bigger hard disks. There is no compelling reason for a GUI, Windows version of fractint. All we need is for the DOS version to support: - Calculation in the background while working in other applications - Long (i.e. descriptive) file names - Access to all video modes that are supported by the PC the user would like to use - Help menus you can keep open while using the program - A COMPLETE restructuring of the current 'x', 'y', coordinates, etc menus, as well as all the options that are accessible by 'g' only, and therefore can't be checked. I respect the fact that this is the way they've grown up and what long-time users are used to (and so it's very important to keep the current menu system as an option), but for a new user it's pretty confusing. Of course, moving to windoze is not an automatic cure for confusing parameter settings, the developers still have to do the work to structure the dialogue boxes logically! - A more intuitive (and that means what I personally expect!!) way of using the mouse to do zooming. For example, click-and-drag to select the area, handles on the zoom box to stretch it and rotate it. This is the one area where a mouse interface adds some value (although it would be nice as another way to pick files from a list, too). A move to Windows is not much use if it doesn't deliver the above. But how many of these requirements can be met in the DOS version? Joe Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 13:11:47 -0400 Terry, Your comments on the DOS and [future] Windows version of fractint were interesting and I especially appreciate your offer to help with the Windows 95 version, but I must take exception to the following: [snip] >>With all the hype I have read about the greatness of Fractint, why is it >>so hard for its programmers to get a real handle on Windows programming? [snip] >>Or are there other considerations we aren't being informed about? Is it >>the screen draw time, or plain stubbornness, or just incompetence? [snip] This is quite unfair. Fractint is a patchwork quilt written over the years by many different programmers, all who donated their time for no charge. From what I've read, most all of them (as well as most users) would love to see it ported to 32 bit Windows. I'm sure the reason it hasn't been done yet has nothing to do with what you have said, but is simply a matter of time. I'm sure Tim and most everybody else who has contributed to fractint have 40 hour a week jobs and simply cannot find the time necessary for this huge project. Anyway, there is also a fracint developers mailing list and these questions should probably be discussed there. >>(Who today prefers the DOS command line interface to the clarity and >>elegance of Windows 95? This just goes to show that clarity and elegance are in the eye of the beholder. What could be more clear and elegant than: command [parameter1] [parameter2] [/switch1] [/switch2] Actually, I agree that the concept of windowed, graphical operating systems is an elegant one, but the Windows 95 implementation of this concept leaves a lot to be desired. Nick Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Silver and Gold Newton Formula Date: 11 May 1998 12:24:51 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula applies my double exposure stalks rendering to Newton's solution of (w*w-c*c)*(w*w+1/(c*c))=0. This equation has an unusually rich variety of images. I've included four pars that give a sampling of the variety. I've used two color ranges (siver and gold) in all the pars which I think looks quite nice with these images, but I welcome other colormaps for these. Paul Carlson } frm:Dbl_Expos_Newt2 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; ; real(p1) = a factor controlling the size of the stalks ; imag(p1) = minimum iterations ; real(p2) = convergence test distance ; imag(p2) = value of |w| for bailout ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; z = bailout = iter = range_num = dist = 0 c = pixel csqd = c * c icsqd = 1 / csqd sc = sqrt(-icsqd) a = csqd - icsqd w = sqrt(a / 6) stalk_width = real(p1) skip_iters = imag(p1) cdist = real(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width : w2 = w * w w = (3 * w2 * w2 - a * w2 + 1) / (4 * w * w2 - 2 * a * w) ; IF (iter > skip_iters) IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w))) min_dist = abs(real(w)) ELSE min_dist = abs(imag(w)) ENDIF IF (dist == 0 && min_dist < stalk_width) dist = min_dist ENDIF IF (|w + c| < cdist) bailout = 1 ELSEIF (|w - c| < cdist) bailout = 1 ELSEIF (|w + sc| < cdist) bailout = 1 ELSEIF (|w - sc| < cdist) bailout = 1 ENDIF ENDIF IF (bailout == 1) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < imag(p2) } dent2m01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt2.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt2 passes=t corners=2.60831858285/2.60826892397/-3.31059200001e-005/3.310\ 59200001e-005/2.60826892397/3.31059200001e-005 params=0.1/25/1e-007/1e+020/2/125 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } dent2m02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt2.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt2 passes=t corners=4.2295373/4.2103373/-0.0128/0.0128/4.2103373/0.0128 params=0.1/10/1e-007/1e+020/2/125 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } dent2m03 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt2.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt2 passes=t corners=4.18407772960462/4.18407766763212/-4.13149999200574e-\ 008/4.13150001074116e-008/4.18407766763212/4.13150001074116e-008 params=0.1/25/1e-007/1e+020/2/125 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } dent2m04 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt2.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt2 passes=t center-mag=+0.53134409219500000/+0.84715435134499990/4508.941\ /1/122 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020/2/125 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) periodicity=n Date: 11 May 1998 20:17:20 +0100 Angela wrote: >Lee... >The operative word in your message is "IF." >Picture yourself a newbie.....you check >1. The documentation at Spanky (really good) >2. The help that pops up under F1 (also good) >3. The read.me file that comes with Fractint (which says very little) >>I'll bet if you try that yourself you'll be unlikely to figure out that the >makedoc feature is available. I just went thru that drill. IF you can spot the >makedoc.doc file in the listing of stuff that makes up Fractint and decide to >read it, you are home free. Personally, I never saw it until Bob told me about >it. <> You're refering to 'makedoc.doc'. Indeed, a filename like this would at least not invite me to read it, but a file named FRACTINT.DOC must have something to do with DOC on FRACTINT. :-) Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 20:11:24 +0100 Terry wrote: >I'm getting the strong feeling, just from the brief time I've >had to browse the numerous messages on the list, that the programmers of >Fractint intend to keep the same DOS-style interface in future versions. >If that isn't the case, then the following may be overstated, but if >true... IMO, this is a big mistake, as WinFract could have much more >than its present psuedo-Windows-compatible content. More on this below. > >With all the hype I have read about the greatness of Fractint, why is it >so hard for its programmers to get a real handle on Windows programming? I'm curious what you think of Tierazon (i'm using tierazon for windows 2.5). Is this as 'fast' as you would like winfract to be? Is this a good windows program in terms of interface? Maybe the menu's of Tzon25 are more user-friendly in terms of a logical interface than the fractint / winfract menus are -- but i think the Tzon25 menus are a crime (as in French :-) ) to a newbie: they are almost written using pure mathematics. I therefore think the fractint menus are more accessible to newbies. What are said to be secondary or tertiary parameters to rendering, do not show up in the express menus in fractint, but in tzon25 everything looks the same. When I was a fractint newbie, i had no real problems with the fractint interface. And occasionally, when there was a topic i needed more help on, the fractint help system was often clear enough. But maybe the 'lack' of problems i had was because of my earlier experiences with fractal theories and programs beside fractint. >I would welcome a chance to contribute to a genuine Windows 95 version of >Fractint, one that would once and for all lay the "DOS" version to rest. I have no problems with a completely new interface for winfract. But i *would* like a command line mode (callable by ctrl-g maybe) that at least supports fractdos var=val command line vocabulary and grammar. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 19:48:30 +0100 Petr Lobaz wrote in a reply to Terry W. Gintz: >You think of windows menus? It means that you MUST do everything using >mouse, then put your hands on the keyboard, move with mouse, type >another information and so on. I bet that I can work with current version >of Fractint several times faster than with this strange combination of >mouse and keyboard. And to make everything available from mouse control? >This contolling of program would be so SLOOOW. You asked for people who >like DOS command line. Command.com doesn't have such nice features like >for example Bourne Again Shell (bash), but I can work with DOS prompt much >faster than with mouse. Don't forget that many programmers are quite good >keyboard users. > >Petr I can't do but agree with that. Besides, there is at least one program that works as a kind of bash for dos. I'm referring to 4dos. It offers all facilities of bash (and more!) for MSDOS. It is a powerful replacement of command.com. There are also 32-bit versions available: 4OS2 for OS/2 and 4NT for Windows 9x/NT. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 19:42:08 +0100 Angela wrote: >I for one would very very much like a fully (more or less) functional Winfract. > >Now...I also like to run Fractint under DOS...but....there are times when I'd >prefer to stay in true Winders and multi-task. Why....I could let Winfract >render in the background while chatting!!!! or posting all those pars and >frms!!!! I can live without color cycling in a Winfract version, but the >addition of being able to construct a color map would be a very useful one. I >know I can do that quite nicely in some of the existing winders-based fractal >programs.....but NO sliders please!!! a nice little pallet like we have now. > >Think of the very simple need to view all the pars posted to this >list........wouldn't it be nice to have them rendering while composing >scintillating comments to the authors? All problems with winders >aside.......multitasking is better than using at a single DOS app, no matter how >fast. Multitasking of course enables us to render multiple fractals in different winfract sessions. A multithreading edition of winfract would even allow us to render multiple fractals within the same winfract session. I'm not really into windows programming, but I guess a well-organised coding of the multithreading means rendering fractals in the same winfract session would be faster than separate sessions. I would appreciate a more up-to-date, possibly even just as complete as fractint 19.6, or even more extended, version of winfract as the combination of my video card (Diamond Stealth 3D 2000), WinNT 4.0 for i386 and the nonworking SDD651 (under NT at least) do not allow me to render fractals in fractint in hires-256. The highest res 256 color modes I can choose are CF5 (320x480x256) and SF1 (360x480x256). This means I always have to switch to dos (which takes quite a while, from NT) and run fractint. This doesn't mean at all i would give up good old 'dosfract' { g.o.d. :-) } , as winfract (even a superfast multithreading edition) still isn't as fast as dos. For checking what the artists of this list have created, winfract is okay. For fully exploring these frms and pars, and creating fractals for the fractals, dosfract can {at least nowadays} not be exceeded. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kolasa Subject: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 14:22:49 -0400 The DOS version seems to be the preferred route but it seems that we are all ignoring the fact that Microsoft will not be releasing any more versions of DOS. At least that is what I recall reading sometime ago. Does it make sense to continue developing something for a dead OS? Dave Kolasa Computer Lab Supervisor Center for Computational Biology 532 Wartik Lab. University Park, PA 16802 Phone: 865-1098 Fax: 863-1357 Email: DAK2@PSU.EDU Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 14:38:56 -0500 Hello, Figured I'd add my thoughts to this debate, along with clarifying a few misconceptions. First, several people here seem to have the feeling that a DOS FractInt will always be faster than a Windows FractInt. Some have even hinted that they think this because of WinFract. Well, WinFract IS slower than DOS FractInt, but that's not because Windows programs are inherently slower--it's because of how WinFract is written. A properly-configured DOS session in Windows 95 is only 2% slower than pure DOS (according to some tests I ran a while back). The difference is so insignificant that it's not even worth mentioning. Now, as I see it (and note, this is only my opinion and I don't pretend to speak for the FractInt developers, to which group I do not belong) there are two major tasks is moving FractInt to a modern Windows environment. First, FractInt is currently a 16-bit application; Windows 95 apps are 32-bit. While this has *some* bearing in a high-level language (which most of FractInt is written in) it has *enormous* importance when it comes to dealing with assembly language--and assembly language is part of what makes FractInt fast. To move FractInt to a 32-bit environment requires that all of that assembly code be examined, checked, and if necessary, rewritten. This is not a small task! The other major task required to move FractInt into a Win95/98/NT environment is that a Windows interface be written. Again, this is no small task. Windows programming is a different paradigm altogether from the DOS environment, and that means that a good portion of the current interface code must be rewritten from _scratch_. It's been pointed out that the people who work on FractInt have day jobs, and do this sort of thing in their spare time. That so much has been contributed to FractInt is amazing... but it is unfair to assume that because "feature X" isn't in FractInt, it's because the programmers are lazy/hard-hearted/incompetent. It seems to me that the Stone Soup Group is well aware of what needs to be done with FractInt. They know where the program is headed, and they recognize that eventually, FractInt must leave DOS behind. Much of what needs to be done is being accomplished through Xfractint; it's far more portable than the DOS version, but at the cost of eliminating that high-speed assembly we all love. Cut 'em some slack and let them work. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Bell Subject: Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 20:07:56 +0100 Dave Kolasa wrote: > > The DOS version seems to be the preferred route but it seems that we are > all ignoring the fact that Microsoft will not be releasing any more > versions of DOS. At least that is what I recall reading sometime ago. > > Does it make sense to continue developing something for a dead OS? Just because there will be no more releases of DOS doesn't mean we can't use it - and if you believe that MS will stop supporting it then you must be mad. I personally prefer DOS to Windows because I much prefer its command line system (especially when combined with DOSKey). Although a Windows version of Fractint may be useful it would take an awfully long time to restructure and rewrite Fractint to take advantage of the features Win 9x/nt has to offer. Michael Bell. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Gilman Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 12:14:21 -0700 Terry W. Gintz, I'm the wrong Tim to respond to this, but I feel I've got a good handle regarding some of these issues. I'm porting Fractint to the Mac, and I only committed to doing so after getting a prototype to run using the XFract code-base. It took me a little under 2 months to get a fractal out of the XFract source base on my Mac, and this was only one fractal at a fixed resolution, gray-scale, with absolutely nothing configurable. There's a few things you mention below that I'd like to elaborate. Fractal generation in terms of system performance is 99.9% number crunching. The difference, on a Mac, between drawing directly to the screen and drawing into a window buffer and then copying the buffer to the screen is about 99 to 100. That is, there's hardly any difference at all. I imagine the same goes for whatever mutation of Windows. The rest is application and system overhead. I imagine people like the DOS-version of FRACTINT because it's so responsive. If you comb through the source code for a bit, you'll see that the FRACTINT menus pretty much drive the entire application. More to the point, interrupt-driven keystrokes drive the app. Porting Fractint to anything other than an interrupt-driven system requires a huge amount of code rework. I'm facing this with the Mac port of Fractint, since the Mac is completely event-driven. So, to address your point below ("or just incompetence") the developers of fractint have been playing with graphics modes long before expert Windows programmers even knew they needed a base video address, much less the ActiveX wrapper which sold it to them. Not to jerk any tears, but in my hey-day of experimenting with DOS & Intel offerings, I bought a cutting edge 486DX-50 just to use Fractint. If, at the time, Fractint was a Windows application, it would have sucked to the point where it would have been abandoned, IMHO. Conceptually though, I don't think a Windows95 version of fractint will ever happen. If the DOS version is to ever be lain to rest, DOS will have to be lain to rest, and that mean windows95 & windows98 will have to be dropped. In all, my advice to you if you're serious about pursuing a fully windowed version of Fractint is to start with the XFract source base. That way you'll avoid (and lose) most of the abstract optimizations found in the DOS fractint. Once someone steps up to rewriting the fractal-generating code in XFract to be independent of the menu-ing system, then making a maintainable WindowsNT version becomes possible. Until then... "May the source be with you." -=Tim Gilman t.gilman@apple.com tgilman@cats.ucsc.edu >Or are there other considerations we aren't being informed about? Is it >the screen draw time, or plain stubbornness, or just incompetence? I >don't throw this out lightly. I've used WinFract some in Windows 3.1, >and that was hardly a graceful multitask promoting program. Numerous >bugs made it crash or mess up Windows. The help file was much >abbreviated from the full DOS version, which made it hard to understand >some features without reading the DOS help file. No attempt to upgrade >this poor showing to a Windows 95 program. Even less attempt to include >what the DOS version of Fractint now includes. > >I would welcome a chance to contribute to a genuine Windows 95 version of >Fractint, one that would once and for all lay the "DOS" version to rest. >(Who today prefers the DOS command line interface to the clarity and >elegance of Windows 95? Or it need not be compared to Windows 95, but >any up-to-date windowing system, such as Macintosh or X-Windows...) I >couldn't make this offer when my programs were still shareware, but I'd >sure like to improve the quality of fractal artistry as it now stands. >There is much in my own programs that would add to the power of Fractint, >including true color, AVI and midi support. The problem I have now is >deciphering much of the abstract(optimizing) code that Fractint has >accumulated over the years. Maybe there is a master decryption log to >explain all the routines in Fractint's source code, because as it is >distributed now, no one programmer could understand it all(without a log >book.) If there is any attempt to keep a Windows 95 version current and >maintainable, complete documentation for all source code, as well as >program options, is necessary. > >Any comments, Tim? Tim Gilman BlueBox Engineering t.gilman@apple.com Apple Computer, Inc. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) periodicity=nnn on menu Date: 11 May 1998 15:35:27 -0400 I would prefer it there, also, the degub=3D1600 (or whatever you use to = turn on bignums manually) and bfdigits would be cool. Pete // -----Original Message----- // From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com // [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tim Wegner // Sent: Sunday, May 10, 1998 8:12 PM // To: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Subject: (fractint) periodicity=3Dnnn on menu // =20 // =20 // Would folks like to see the commandline control periodicity=3Dnnn=20 // promoted to menu status? // =20 // It would be OK with me if this were a permanent fixture. However,=20 // periodicity could easy change. Maybe I could make a "top secret=20 // developer's menu page" that is sort of the analogy of the "top = secret=20 // developer's status screen". The idea is that the menu would be = // for convenience, but we wouldn't promise to keep the commands or=20 // their syntax the same from version to version. // =20 // To play devil's advocate, why would you want periodicity=3Dnnn in a=20 // menu since entering it via the command is so easy? // =20 // Tim // =20 // =20 // -------------------------------------------------------------- // Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List // Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" // Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net // Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" // =20 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) fractint v20 Date: 11 May 1998 15:42:50 -0400 If I were to write a massive fractal program for win95, (which, = actually, I am working on one, but sllloooowwwwlllyyy) I would have a = queue type system for batch mode type rendering built in. Pete // -----Original Message----- // From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com // [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kerry = Mitchell // Sent: Monday, May 11, 1998 11:51 AM // To: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 // =20 // =20 // > >>Who today prefers the DOS command line interface to the clarity = and // > elegance of Windows 95? << // =20 // While it may be personal prejudice, stubborness, idiocy, or all of = the // above, I perfer DOS programs to Windows, at least, DOS Fractint to = other // fractal programs. One issue for any fractal program to=20 // consider: batch // mode. Fractals now being rendered can be so big and take so long, = that // running batch is the only practical way to do it. I don't believe = that // this is limited to DOS programs, but many windowing programs=20 // don't have it // as an option. // =20 // Kerry Mitchell // =20 // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // --------------- // Kerry Mitchell // lkmitch@primenet.com // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // --------------- // =20 // =20 // =20 // -------------------------------------------------------------- // Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List // Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" // Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net // Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" // =20 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 15:52:16 -0400 // All we need is for the DOS version to support: // =20 // - Calculation in the background while working in other applications I think the easiest way to do this is to let you switch from video to = disk video with one key press, rather than saving it and re-opening it = with disk video mode. And a way to save with the same filename without = retyping it would be helpful (like a 'save under last filename' key), = and a popup status display from the fractal screen, rather than pressing = tab, containing the filename, etc. I find it somewhat annoying that if = I find a fractal I like, then save it, then change the colors, and if I = want to save it under the same filename, I have to press x, then fix the = filename, then save it after I return to my fractal, especially since my = monitor has to change the resolution, and clicks and goes black and all = that... whew! :) // - Long (i.e. descriptive) file names Easily done... goto www.microsoft.com :) Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 15:54:27 -0400 I agree. And why are we all complaining? It would do just as much (or = more) under DOS as win95, and besides... ITS FREE!!! Pete / Your comments on the DOS and [future] Windows version of fractint = were // interesting and I especially appreciate your offer to help with=20 // the Windows // 95 version, but I must take exception to the following: // =20 // [snip] // >>With all the hype I have read about the greatness of=20 // Fractint, why is it // >>so hard for its programmers to get a real handle on Windows=20 // programming? // [snip] // >>Or are there other considerations we aren't being informed=20 // about? Is it // >>the screen draw time, or plain stubbornness, or just incompetence? // [snip] // =20 // This is quite unfair. Fractint is a patchwork quilt written=20 // over the years // by many different programmers, all who donated their time for no = charge. // From what I've read, most all of them (as well as most users)=20 // would love to // see it ported to 32 bit Windows. I'm sure the reason it hasn't been = done // yet has nothing to do with what you have said, but is simply a = matter of // time. I'm sure Tim and most everybody else who has contributed=20 // to fractint // have 40 hour a week jobs and simply cannot find the time=20 // necessary for this // huge project. Anyway, there is also a fracint developers=20 // mailing list and // these questions should probably be discussed there. // =20 // >>(Who today prefers the DOS command line interface to the clarity = and // >>elegance of Windows 95? // =20 // This just goes to show that clarity and elegance are in the eye of = the // beholder. What could be more clear and elegant than: // =20 // command [parameter1] [parameter2] [/switch1] [/switch2] // =20 // Actually, I agree that the concept of windowed, graphical=20 // operating systems // is an elegant one, but the Windows 95 implementation of this=20 // concept leaves // a lot to be desired. // =20 // Nick // =20 // =20 // =20 // -------------------------------------------------------------- // Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List // Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" // Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net // Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" // =20 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 15:57:20 -0400 // The DOS version seems to be the preferred route but it seems that we = are // all ignoring the fact that Microsoft will not be releasing any more // versions of DOS. At least that is what I recall reading sometime = ago. // =20 // Does it make sense to continue developing something for a dead OS? What else do you want from DOS? So what if they don't release upgrades? = :) There's not much else, that you can't get from another company, or = for windoze :) Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 15:59:34 -0400 // I'm not really // into windows programming, but I guess a well-organised coding of the // multithreading means rendering fractals in the same winfract=20 // session would // be faster than separate sessions. Actually, no. :) Windows has to manage all those little threads, which = is expensive in terms of CPU cycles. Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 16:03:21 -0400 // Maybe the menu's of Tzon25 are more // user-friendly in terms of a logical interface than the fractint=20 // / winfract // menus are -- but i think the Tzon25 menus are a crime (as in=20 // French :-) ) to // a newbie... [snip] I agree. Fractint (dos) was cake for me to learn. I didn't even read = the docs before starting. (I did later :) ) I was doing cool stuff = after a couple hours! But I got tzon, and I was turned off by the = interface. I dont understand half the filters, and I can find any = adequate docs... (then again, I didn't look *that* hard) Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) periodicity=n Date: 11 May 1998 16:06:46 -0400 Angela, >> The read.me file that comes with Fractint (which says very little) Yes, I believe that this should be expanded to include info on makedoc. Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Users and Developers Unite!!! Date: 11 May 1998 13:25:58 -0700 I'm really interested in the debate about windows, fractint, dos, winfract, etc. and am very glad it's not been shunted completely over to another list for developers. The opportunity to interact with developers (or potential developers) is a real win for us non-tech types who are fairly intense users. I like hearing about the benefits of one approach versus another from the technical community......and I hope the developers get some benefit from hearing about how their applications are used in "real life" (something I think I had before I found fractint). One area where I have a real problem with Fractint is in the area of file management. Windows is far superior for file management....not only because of drag and drop but because two files can be opened simultaneously. I transfer my gifs to zip disks at the end of each month, but I clean out the less desireable gifs by using a graphics program like paintshop pro. And while.... copy *.* e:\homepage\simplenet\fractals\seasonal\temp .....isn't all That bad, copying selected files to different directories is a nightmare in dos. About the only real file management I do in dos is deleting files......and I find even that rather difficult as I have to write down all the file names I want to delete then do each one "by hand." As long as I'm writing, it's often easier to return to winders and use the mouse to select those files I want to delete from a list. Both my .map files and .par files are getting rather cluttered. Love all the debate... Angela Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: fractint v20 and other stuff Date: 11 May 1998 21:04:55 +0100 Jiho wrote: >>> Also, how will win 98 and nt 5 affect fractint multitasking abilities? HAL probably would sitll be a problem in NT, but I don't really know anything at win 98. Will it handle DOS memory usage better? <<< I've been using betas 1, 2 and 3 of Win98 -- beta 3 even in English, Dutch and Swedish :-) -- for a while, still using b3 dutch, but only for games and for some networking, as NT 4 doesn't support DirectX 5 and I cannot communicate with some dos gamers on the network. Win98 doesn't have anything extra to offer to dos mem usage. And for future versions of Windows, the compatibility with dos apps can only decrease. Unfortunately. I can't say anything definite on NT 5 yet, but chances are low better mem allocation will take place. I'm waiting for a 'stable' public beta now. What's HAL by the way? Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: fractint v20 and other stuff Date: 11 May 1998 17:53:33 -0500 Christian, - What's HAL by the way? Hardware Access Layer. In DirectX terms, it's what allows programs to access hardware acceleration features. The alternative is HEL, Hardware Emulation Layer, which is typically so slow as to not be worth anything. (Particularly in Direct3D's case.) Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Some boundary trace pars Date: 11 May 1998 18:05:59 -0500 (CDT) These pars use the Dbl_Expos_Newt2 formula that I just posted. They do not use the double exposure rendering - instead they use Fractint's boundary trace method. It's fun to watch the images being plotted by this method and as for the images themselves - well, they're kinda nice, too. The fourth one is really different. The pars should be run at 1024x768 resolution or higher. Paul Carlson btracm01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt2.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt2 passes=b corners=2.60830875039/2.60827875643/-1.999597568e-005/1.99959\ 7568e-005/2.60827875643/1.999597568e-005 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020/8/30 float=y maxiter=2000 fillcolor=253 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00Of\ Oz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00000<13>000 } btracm02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt2.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt2 passes=b corners=4.2295373/4.2103373/-0.0128/0.0128/4.2103373/0.0128 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020/8/30 float=y maxiter=500 fillcolor=253 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40\ zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<13>000 } btracm03 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt2.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt2 passes=b corners=4.18407772960462/4.18407766763212/-4.13149999200574e-\ 008/4.13150001074116e-008/4.18407766763212/4.13150001074116e-008 params=0.1/0/1e-007/1e+020/8/30 float=y maxiter=2000 fillcolor=253 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40\ zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<13>000 } btracm04 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dbexnwt2.frm formulaname=dbl_expos_newt2 passes=b center-mag=+0.53134409219500000/+0.84715435134499990/4508.941\ /1/122 params=0.1/-1/1e-007/1e+020/8/30 float=y maxiter=2000 fillcolor=253 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John W. Evans" Subject: (fractint) Spiral Valley Date: 12 May 1998 01:16:50 GMT Hi all First par post from a long-time lurker - nothing original but inspired by Angela's Spiral Valley recently posted Wizzle_Tree { ; Which grows in Wizzle's Spiral Valley ; zoomed by John W. Evans [Par date: May 12, 1998] ; t= 0:03:28.99 using a P-200MMX @ 800x600 ; Formula by Paul Carlson, colours by Wizzle reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_s.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul corners=-0.5178362455/-0.5082698412/0.7953473378/0.7917458256/-0.5126636\ 141/0.788450496 params=-0.36665/0.11573/0.02/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zzc<28>cKA000<28>0000wz<27>03C00A000<28>000fOz<28>K0F000<28>00\ 0KKU<25>444333222111000<43>000 } Wizzle_Tree1 { ; Which grows in Wizzle's Spiral Valley ; zoomed by John W. Evans [Par date: May 12, 1998] ; t= 0:03:28.99 using a P-200MMX @ 800x600 ; Formula by Paul Carlson, colours by Les St Clair reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_s.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul corners=-0.5178362455/-0.5082698412/0.7953473378/0.7917458256/-0.5126636\ 141/0.788450496 params=-0.36665/0.11573/0.02/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=tld<6>zzm<5>yoRxmNxkJwiFvfD<3>qU6pR4oQ4<12>ZC5YB5W96U87T77R58<12>\ zpN<7>Uia<13>EP7DO5CM3AK0BJ0CI0<13>U30<15>zcc<17>IDDGCCEAAC99A77<3>000<2\ 5>WWWXXX___```aaaccc<29>000B0A<14>d9H<10>A00<8>Y0B`0Ca2D<18>sjc } Wizzle_Tree2 { ; Which grows in Wizzle's Spiral Valley ; zoomed by John W. Evans [Par date: May 12, 1998] ; t= 0:03:28.88 using a P-200 at 800x600 ; Formula by Paul Carlson colours by Damien Jones reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_s.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul corners=-0.5178362455/-0.5082698412/0.7953473378/0.7917458256/-0.5126636\ 141/0.788450496 params=-0.36665/0.11573/0.02/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000<15>z00<15>000<15>zj0<15>000<15>Vz0<14>240000030<14>0zF<15>000\ <15>0zz<15>000<14>0Fv0Gz0Fw<13>014000204<14>V0z<15>000<15>z0k<14>703 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) Brieana Date: 11 May 1998 21:06:20 -0400 For my newest granddaughter, Brieana, a spiral: Brieana { ; David Shanholtzer, 1998 ; For my newest granddaughter ; Frm: GenInvMand1_N by Jm Collard-Richard ; color map: dav9b reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=geninvmand1_n function=tan/sin/sin/sin passes=t center-mag=-1.07429130009775100/-0.38213820078226900/98.03922 float=y maxiter=800 inside=260 outside=real decomp=256 distest=1/71/1024/768 finattract=y colors=mHr<4>nIr000<89>0003Km<12>klt000<72>000R0p<7>S0pS1pS1pT1pT1pT2p<5\ 6>mHr } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Some boundary trace pars Date: 11 May 1998 20:17:42 -0700 Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote: > > These pars use the Dbl_Expos_Newt2 formula that I just posted. > They do not use the double exposure rendering - instead they > use Fractint's boundary trace method. It's fun to watch the > images being plotted by this method and as for the images > themselves - well, they're kinda nice, too. The fourth one > is really different. > I too have been fiddling......and especially with color maps for all of Paul's new goodies. Below is a par plus two color variations. Once you see the color methodology, you ought to be able to play with the colors to suit your own preferances. Note that to use and change the maps you need to be cycling all 256 colors. wiz_newt1 { ; 5/12/98 Angela Wilczynski w. newnwt_1.map ; from a Paul Carlson Formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=may98.frm formulaname=dbl_exp_newt1_j center-mag=-0.10626847380645170/-0.10663663899035230/139159 params=0.1/50/1e-007/2/0.99933510184/0.03646053069 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=Tav<28>80UUGD<30>UGDzcc<30>mKKUGD<30>UGDUzz<7>NllMkkLiiLhhKff<18>\ 3CCUGD<30>UGDwob<30>ZK8UGD<30>UGDUcwUbw cyclerange=0/255 } wiz_newt3 { ; 5/12/98 Angela Wilczynski w. nwt-blk3.map ; from a Paul Carlson Formula colors=vm`<28>ZK8000<30>000m6U<30>F0A000<30>000zuU<30>UA0000<29>000mAA<3\ 0>A10000<31>000wobwna cyclerange=0/255 } wiz_newt2 { ; 5/12/98 Angela Wilczynski w. newnwt-2.map ; from a Paul Carlson Formula colors=uau<28>K0Kwww<30>wwwwob<30>UA8www<30>wwwzcc<30>K0Azzz<30>zzzczz<3\ 0>0AAzzz<30>zzzwcwvbv cyclerange=0/255 } Enjoy!!! Angela p.s. I haven't tried the maps on all of Paul's variations, but they ought to work for any that have 2/125 in the last expression of the formula. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Spiral Valley Date: 11 May 1998 20:37:33 -0700 John W. Evans wrote: > > Hi all > > First par post from a long-time lurker - nothing original but inspired by > Angela's Spiral Valley recently posted > > Wizzle_Tree <> John.... Welcome out of lurkdom!! I loved your pars.....especially that last one.....Paul's images are often tough to color properly and that one came out well, I thought. Here's a color par for your fractal forest....try it on any of your "trees" Wiz_TreeColor { ; for John Evan's fractal forest ; zoomed by John W. Evans [Par date: May 12, 1998] ; t= 0:03:28.88 using a P-200 at 800x600 ; Formula by Paul Carlson colours by Damien Jones colors=000zzc<28>cKA000<28>0000wz<27>03C00A000<28>000Uz0<27>2C90AA000<28\ >000AcU<28>050000<43>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "john Weeks" Subject: Re: (fractint) Filtering images with Fractint Date: 11 May 1998 21:33:55 PDT >From owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com Mon May 11 06:09:23 1998 >Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 1.82 #1) > id 0yYsHU-0006t1-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:06:12 -0600 >On Sat, 2 May 1998, Weldon Morgan wrote: >> Part of the reason I became interested in Fractint had to do with the >> possibility of improving the resolution of photographic images through the >> use of fractel technology. As I understand it, one can use the fractel >> algorithm to simulate the pixel information that does not exist in the >> original image. Does anyone on this list have any information on this >> process, or can point me in the right direction > >I haven't heard of the idea. Sounds interesting. > >There's going to be a finite limit to your improvements, though, even >if it's possible to do this at all, on information-theoretic grounds. > Done and Done again!!! Check out www.Iterated.com Downloadable Shareware that does just what you're talking about. >Kragen > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry W. Gintz" Subject: (fractint) beyond the hype Date: 11 May 1998 22:18:27 -0700 Thanks for all the feedback! It matches what I've come to expect from a community of fractalists this diverse. But as the poet said "Nothing is revealed", or something like that. The basic lines of fire have been drawn for a long time. I've been in the fractal game nearly as long as Fractint(Fra386), since 1984, though always with the windows interface foremost rather than DOS. From Macintosh to Amiga to MS Windows, so maybe I know as well as anyone what is involved in making a windows program work. It's been a revelation to incorporate some of the Fractint optimizations in my own programming, though they never worked quite the same. This is mainly because I refuse to copy anyone's code verbatim, but prefer to emulate an algorithm with my own code. So I know there's much in Fractint that would make my Windows programs even faster/more versatile, if I understood its source code better. With all the steady stream of DOS pandering, Damien probably came closest to reality when he mentioned the problem of converting 16-bit assembly code to the 32-bit model. That could be done in stages, initially removing any troublesome code. Just having the program compiled on a 32-bit compiler would speed up the plotting 40 to 60 percent, based on my own porting experiences. Having a functional Windows version of Fractint also eliminates the need to support a hundred different graphics modes and boards. It doesn't do much good to have a fast DOS version if your graphics card isn't supported, a major irritant for me in the past when I tried to run DOS games that couldn't recognize my super vga board. Things didn't become really compatible until the Pentium came around with its VESA support for 256-color mode. Angela mentioned a compelling reason for having a Windows version: multiple-document support. I can open up to 20 files in my programs, each with its own "window", and this is an arbitrary limit just to keep the window menu manageable. Right now I just simulate multiple windows, and switch between them, drawing on one main window. With MDI or MFC, as Steve Ferguson uses in his programs, any number of windows can be open at the same time. With Fractint, you have to save one picture before opening another, etc. I'd like to take each barb from a DOS lover, and refute all their claims as nonsense. It would take some time to respond to each of them in a different letter, so I'll just touch on what I can recall of them. It does not take 4 weeks or 4 hours to generate a fractal in Windows. On my 233Mhz system, most of my pictures plot at 800X600 in 5 minutes or less(Mandelbrot/Julia sets in under a minute.) Slowest to plot are custom formulae that I've loaded through a Fractint par file, such as Sylvie Gallet's and Paul Carlson's intricacies. Some of these work better than others, the biggest lag being when the bailout is set to very high iterations. If I convert them to hard-coded versions, they may actually run faster in my programs than Fractint. I've optimized Paul's orbit-trap methods to plot up to 3 times faster than Fractint, and in true color! So speed is the biggest myth about Fractint that I've seen touted. If I had a parser in my programs as optimized as Fractint's parser, there would be little speed difference there, a matter of minutes or seconds at most rather than hours. And many good programmers tell me Fractint doesn't have the fastest parser that could be coded. About the mouse interface: when I want to zoom in Fractint using a mouse, I can't remember which way to roll the mouse to shrink the zoom box after clicking in the draw window. Then I have to exit the window and look up help to figure it out. In my programs, I have keyboard "hotkeys" and toolbar icons to execute many tasks. For zooming, I hold down the left mouse button to shrink the zoom box, hold the right mouse button down to enlarge the box, hold the left arrow key to rotate the zoom box counter-clockwise and hold the right arrow down to rotate the box clockwise. I don't support skewing, but something as simple could be done in Fractint. The point is, keyboard commands are easily added to a windows program, and don't have to interfere with mouse usage. About batch mode: this can be done with Windows as easy as in DOS. I have a redraw-all option in my program that redraws all open windows(up to 20, at any resolution and color map) to full size or thumbsize automatically! I don't have to write a batch file to do this. Windows provides for edit boxes, so any custom formula you want to enter in my programs is edited inside my programs, not by a separate text editor. IMHO, touch typing is not a necessary skill for using a fractal program, or any computer program these days. Anyone who advocates gearing a program solely around a touch typist is out of touch with ergonomics. I suspect mice and GUI were invented just to replace the awful burden of touch-typing on a person's wrists, as well as providing a more intuitive way to work in a multi-tasking environment(Fractint is *not* multi-tasking; all my programs *are*.) Programming sets its own limits on the wary typist. I refuse to argue anymore with what my own hands tell me is the gentlest method of data input. The business schools and colleges are still pushing touch typing, but who do they work for? Big business doesn't care about people's wrists, just getting the job done in the shortest time. If you are doing a lot of touch typing with your fractal program, you are working too hard. I know it was unfair to imply Fractint's programmers are lazy or incompetent, which they obviously aren't. Stubbornness is more to the point. Lack of time is an accurate assessment too. The latter argument is not one I'd care to stick up for though. Spending close to ten years on a fractal program, as I have, it is fair to say that I chose to spend the time I had developing a program with a Windows interface, while the Fractint programmers never really got started in that direction. But it's never too late, which is the reason I offer my support in this. Either to rebuild Fractint from the ground up to fully support Windows 9x, or to offer my program(s) as a platform to use the bulk of Fractint's options/features. Would there be a lot of interest in a program that was fully Fractint compatible, and just as fast or faster, but ran in Windows 95 and was called by a different name than WinFract? There are some things in the old Fractint that need to be updated to use a true-color space more effectively. My programs use an expanded "palette" editor like Fractint's palette editor, with additional features not found in Fractint. You'd find that my palette editor has little resemblance to Steve Ferguson's "slider"-based color editor, though I use sliders for defining rgb/hsv values for each palette "index." If I were to upgrade my programs to make a Windows substitute/replacement for Fractint, I'd probably start with the parser, since my parser already supports a great deal of the Fractint 19.x par/frm standard. Unfortunately, the parser code in Fractint is some of the most dense and undocumented code I've seen. A parser engineer could understand it, and it probably uses some of the same methods as I do in precompiling, though with a lot of additional assembly-code support. If I go down in flames, I have at least made the effort to rock the boat. Cheers, Terry -- twgg@ix.netcom.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/5601/ http://www.zenweb.com/pan/rayn/twg/ http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/palette/31/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "john Weeks" Subject: Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 22:44:28 PDT Dave Kolasa wrote -> >The DOS version seems to be the preferred route but it seems that we are >all ignoring the fact that Microsoft will not be releasing any more >versions of DOS. At least that is what I recall reading sometime ago. > >Does it make sense to continue developing something for a dead OS? > Windows 98 does not support DOS applications. You can have them both installed but I for one will continue to let my old 486 run my Fracint and other DOS applications while I do my Windows on a separate machine (to avoid hassles). Who cares if the 486 is slow, I can let it chug away while I work on other things. john ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 17:56:28 +1200 At 07:39 11/05/98 -0700, Wizzle wrote: >Jack... > >I think your comments were right on!!! > >I'd like to add that when I'm going to seriously work on fractals, I'm always >going to choose the DOS version of Fractint. But there are often times when I'm >in "mess around mode" and a Winfract that could at least "see" all the new pars >would be my choice......even with it's other current limitations. > >Angela > I would agree with this as well - so long as Winfract can update its rendering in realtime as parameters are fiddled a la Tierazon. Otherwise I'd be using with DOS Fractint. Personally, if I had a choice between DOS and Windows Fractints, I'd be picking the DOS version, unless the Windows one was significantly superior. For a start, a Windows port would have to be able to take over the entire screen; without any real estate being taken up with distracting window frames and menu bars (or mouse pointers) - but this shouldn't be too difficult. Care would have to be taken to minimise clutter; it would be nice to have separate dialogue boxes for each of the menu screens Fractint offers open simultaneously - but it would have to be necessary to be able to remove them and rearrange them at will (I'm thinking of Photoshop's palettes here). And I wouldn't be using Winfract at all unless I can do everything via the keyboard including hitting 'z' and switching focus to (or opening) the user parameters screen and (say) shift-Z to close it. If everything was mousy you would need sliders for entering numeric values (including decimals - and you thought sliders for integer values was icky!) And a combination keyboard-and-mouse interface is just downright annoying. "archaic help system"? Personally I prefer Fractint's help system to almost all the online help available with Windows applications. This has been a mildly interesting debate: without a doubt Fractint will undergo fundamental changes in the future (one such which I do _not_ hope to see would be its extinction!) and it does pay to discuss such matters so as to avoid painting oneself into a corner. But may I add in conclusion that Terry Gintz could have presented his case somewhat better. I caught a distinct odour of arrogance from his posting (was it just me?) and to come as close as he did to slandering Fractint's dozens of authors over the years (66 at last count) was just plain uncalled-for. Morgan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HGtotheG Subject: Re: (fractint) Filtering images with Fractint Date: 12 May 1998 02:57:57 EDT On Sat, 2 May 1998, Weldon Morgan wrote: > Part of the reason I became interested in Fractint had to do with the > possibility of improving the resolution of photographic images through the > use of fractel technology. As I understand it, one can use the fractel > algorithm to simulate the pixel information that does not exist in the > original image. Does anyone on this list have any information on this > process, or can point me in the right direction and Kragen responded. I haven't heard of the idea. Sounds interesting. There's going to be a finite limit to your improvements, though, even if it's possible to do this at all, on information-theoretic grounds. Kragen >> Wendel, What you are looking for is discribed in the video, 'Colors of Inifity,' by Michael Barnsley and Auther C. Clark. The video was made in 1995 and Michael Barnsley shows how and why the improving of resolutation by computer imaging works. Michael Barnsley has a company, Iterated Systems, in Alanta, GA and has a web page but I don't have the address at hand. Someone on this page posted it at one time so maybe they can give it to you. As to Wendels thought that, 'There's going to be a finite limit to your improvements..." The computer, like zooming in on fractals, will constantly zoom and project, by its programing, its best image of its model. You will hit a point where there is only black or white but that is way down in the image. If you can find a copy of the video, it shows on the PBS stations every so often, it will ansewer a lot of your questions. Walt Bishop Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry W. Gintz" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 00:08:16 -0700 Morgan L. Owens wrote: > At 07:39 11/05/98 -0700, Wizzle wrote: > >Jack... > > > >I think your comments were right on!!! > > > >I'd like to add that when I'm going to seriously work on fractals, I'm always > >going to choose the DOS version of Fractint. But there are often times > when I'm > >in "mess around mode" and a Winfract that could at least "see" all the new > pars > >would be my choice......even with it's other current limitations. > > > >Angela > > > I would agree with this as well - so long as Winfract can update its > rendering in realtime as parameters are fiddled a la Tierazon. Otherwise > I'd be using with DOS Fractint. Morgan,Claims have flew that laziness was not an issue here, but I fail to see the point that doing in a Windows program what you can't do in Fractint is so important to reduce a program's usability to nil. Like I said, you either like Windows or you don't. Everything you say in this letter is with the latter emphasis. If I was being heckled by you in a computer store(as a pc salesman), I would be strongly tempted to tell you to seek out a used-computer store, than waste time trying to describe the merits of today's super personal computers or software. There's nothing "arrogant" about what I've said and meant, though through colored glasses it might seem that way. > Personally, if I had a choice between DOS and Windows Fractints, I'd be > picking the DOS version, unless the Windows one was significantly superior. > For a start, a Windows port would have to be able to take over the entire > screen; without any real estate being taken up with distracting window > frames and menu bars (or mouse pointers) - but this shouldn't be too > difficult. Care would have to be taken to minimise clutter; it would be > nice to have separate dialogue boxes for each of the menu screens Fractint > offers open simultaneously - but it would have to be necessary to be able > to remove them and rearrange them at will (I'm thinking of Photoshop's > palettes here). You're talking here of limitations that only a Windows programmer would make out of preference, or lack of experience. I've always had a full-screen mode for my windows programs, and it's not that hard to implement. On the one hand you say you want to reduce clutter, then you say you want all the Fractint screens to be open at the same time. The reason I haven't gone to MDI for my fractal programs, is the frame clutter. Having several dialog boxes open at the same time makes little sense, when they open and close so easily. And you don't have to exit the "graphics" window to see the dialogs in Windows. > > > And I wouldn't be using Winfract at all unless I can do everything via the > keyboard including hitting 'z' and switching focus to (or opening) the user > parameters screen and (say) shift-Z to close it. If everything was mousy > you would need sliders for entering numeric values (including decimals - > and you thought sliders for integer values was icky!) And a combination > keyboard-and-mouse interface is just downright annoying. Nonsense. Having a little of both(mouse and keyboard) gives your hands a chance to exercise different muscles, and reduces fatigue. You can talk all you want about the merits of touch typing, but IMHO it's a pain to do for any length of time. Years of typing has convinced me that touch typing is just plain bad on your hands and wrists. Talk to someone with carpal tunnel syndrome. > > > "archaic help system"? Personally I prefer Fractint's help system to almost > all the online help available with Windows applications. Have you used real Windows context help? With Fractint you have to scroll through the main index of the help file each time you want to find out about a command. Every time. There are links embedded in the help file to specific sections, but I always forget what section to look in to get help about things like the palette editor or zooming. In my programs, each menu selection has a direct link to the help section that pertains to that command. You activate the link by pressing F1 when the menu item is highlighted. Each of my windows also has a Help button to access context help for that window. If your Windows program doesn't have these features, it's because the programmer chose not to implement them, not that Windows has bad online help. Many fractal programmers who work with Windows don't include much more than a status bar or simple help file. They're not getting paid for their efforts either. > But may I add in conclusion that Terry Gintz could have presented his case > somewhat better. I caught a distinct odour of arrogance from his posting > (was it just me?) and to come as close as he did to slandering Fractint's > dozens of authors over the years (66 at last count) was just plain > uncalled-for. Do you think I haven't worked long and hard to support my claims? Just stating my opinions. I'm just one person, no genius, with probably as much fractal programming experience as any one of Fractint's authors. If it looks arrogant to state that I think the Stone Soup group is lagging by not using Windows 9x, so be it. If I *was* to speak out of arrogance I would state for the record than any of my true-color pictures(done in Windows 95) is more impressive than its Fractint counterpart, if it had a Fractint counterpart. But you would never believe that, would you? Check out my galleries, then try to duplicate the tc pics in Fractint. Try to make a midi or AVI file with Fractint, if you think it's so great. Regards, Terry -- twgg@ix.netcom.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/5601/ http://www.zenweb.com/pan/rayn/twg/ http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/palette/31/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) beyond the hype Date: 11 May 1998 22:28:38 -1000 On 11 May 98 at 22:18, Terry W. Gintz wrote: > Just having the program compiled on a 32-bit compiler > would speed up the plotting 40 to 60 percent, based on > my own porting experiences. But which memory model would you use? W95? NT? OS/2? UNIX/Linux? MacOS? Whatever you choose will no longer be as universal as DOS. FWIW, Fractint could be done in 32-bit code that compiles and runs under one of the common DOS extenders. Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond Time passed, which, basically, is its job. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) beyond the hype Date: 11 May 1998 22:28:38 -1000 On 11 May 98 at 22:18, Terry W. Gintz wrote: > IMHO, touch typing is not a necessary skill for using > a fractal program, or any computer program these days. I guess you don't do much wordprocessing or data entry work, do you? > Anyone who advocates gearing a program solely around a > touch typist is out of touch with ergonomics. And anyone who advocates gearing a program solely around a mouse or other pointing device is also out of touch with ergonomics. > I suspect mice and GUI were invented just to replace > the awful burden of touch-typing on a person's wrists I beg to differ. I never had any RSI problems until I encountered a mouse. Now I cannot use a mouse at all, but I wouldn't if I could, anyway - I like my graphics tablet much better, thank you! Other people at my office can report similar things with mouse-obsessed programs. FWIW, a friend of mine who has been a transcriptionist, and touch-typist for over 50 years(!) has never had any RSI problems whatsoever. She is living proof that proper touch-typing - with proper hand positions and the proper *touch*, instead of the hammering a lot of people use - doesn't cause RSI. I can also state that the GUI wasn't invented to save touch-typing. It was invented so that people didn't have to remember program commands, and (as you mentioned) make it easier to work with multiple programs. Just my humble opinion. YMMV. Anyway, this has probably wandered a bit far from the main interests of most Fractinters on the list ... Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond No problem is so formidable that you can't just walk away from it. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) beyond the hype Date: 11 May 1998 22:28:38 -1000 On 11 May 98 at 22:18, Terry W. Gintz wrote: > If I go down in flames, I have at least made the > effort to rock the boat. And blew lots of trumpets for your own programs as paragons of ergonomic perfection and performance. What are these programs, and where can I find them to verify these claims for myself? Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond I think, therefore I am overqualified. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) beyond the hype Date: 11 May 1998 22:28:37 -1000 On 11 May 98 at 22:18, Terry W. Gintz wrote: > Having a functional Windows version of Fractint also > eliminates the need to support a hundred different > graphics modes and boards. It would also limit the modes available, in my experience with Windows. Fractint supports a lot of modes that no version of Windows does. Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond Manual (man' yOO ul) -n Doorstop included with software. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) beyond the hype Date: 11 May 1998 22:28:38 -1000 On 11 May 98 at 22:18, Terry W. Gintz wrote: > On my 233Mhz system, most Gee, I wish I had that. Just a while ago, I finally got up to a P133 from a P75. Before that, it was a 486/33. Fortunately, I don't have to waste processor time on Windows to generate fractals ... Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond If you can't see God, maybe you have an 'I' problem. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 22:28:39 -1000 On 11 May 98 at 7:16, Angela Wilczynski wrote: > Now...I also like to run Fractint under > DOS...but....there are times when I'd prefer to stay in > true Winders and multi-task. Why....I could let > Winfract render in the background while chatting!!!! or > posting all those pars and frms!!!! Gee, I do that with DOS Fractint - but I run OS/2. Glad I'm not running "Winders" Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond Does fuzzy logic tickle? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 22:28:38 -1000 On 11 May 98 at 1:48, Terry W. Gintz wrote: > (Who today prefers the DOS command line interface to > the clarity and elegance of Windows 95? I would never apply the words "clarity" or "elegance" to the ripped-off hodgepodge that is the W95 "interface," or any other MS product I have encountered. > Or it need not be compared to Windows 95, but any > up-to-date windowing system, such as Macintosh or > X-Windows...) I I would apply "consistent" to the Mac interface, which puts it way ahead of W95. Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond to read the next message Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 11 May 1998 22:28:39 -1000 On 11 May 98 at 14:22, Dave Kolasa wrote: > The DOS version seems to be the preferred route but it > seems that we are all ignoring the fact that Microsoft > will not be releasing any more versions of DOS. At > least that is what I recall reading sometime ago. So? IBM still provides PC-DOS, which is much more stable than the last MS offering. And there is also the excellent *freeware* DOS (formerly called OpenDOS, now called something else) from Caldera software. > Does it make sense to continue developing something > for a dead OS? The only meaningful definition of a "dead" OS is *when nobody is using it anymore*. And those who use W95 are still using DOS - the only thing that changed was the GUI interface. W95's DOS underpinnings are both its strength and its weakness. Strength in that it *can* run software that wants direct access to the hardware - unlike NT. Weakness in that we now have multithreading piled along with "multitasking" on top of the same old single-tasking core. Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond Winston Churchill: 'We shall write to the ISVs, we shall flame the journalists, but we shall never surrender.' Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tonton_th@mail.geocities.com Subject: (fractint) fractint next generation Date: 12 May 1998 11:29:06 +0000 > >>Who today prefers the DOS command line interface to the clarity and > elegance of Windows 95? << > I prefer the bash command line, and the clarity of twm :-) But the full-screen interface of fractint is the best UI I've never seen for a sophisticated software. Everything is here, no mouse-walk. If I remember, there was a projet about splitting the fractal engine and the UI... What's new in this area ? Thierry. --- Linux et Cassoulet ;===) http://savage.iut-blagnac.fr/ Rien a dire ... ;===) http://www.mygale.org/08/oulala/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) beyond the hype Date: 12 May 1998 05:51:30 -0400 At 10:18 PM 5/11/1998 -0700, you wrote: (snipped) "But it's never too late, which is the reason I offer my support in this. Either to rebuild Fractint from the ground up to fully support Windows 9x, or to offer my program(s) as a platform to use the bulk of Fractint's options/features. Would there be a lot of interest in a program that was fully Fractint compatible, and just as fast or faster, but ran in Windows 95 and was called by a different name than WinFract? (And remainder snipped) I would be interested - including b-testing. At least right now; I am not absolutely positive what will be happening a couple of months from now; I had better check my "fractalscope". :) Aside from that - an interesting discussion here. davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brederlow Subject: Re: (fractint) FractInt on Linux Date: 12 May 1998 12:22:48 +0200 "Damien M. Jones" writes: > Mrvn, >[snip] > - It will gain the CPU power your Windows sucks up. The multitasking is > - far better. > > I see you're going on hearsay. I can run a DOS program in Windows, and > it's only 2% slower than running it in true DOS. Uh-huh, Windows sure > sucks up a lot of CPU time! (Isn't sarcasm grand?) 2% speedup over a time of 50 days is a full day saved and one day is quite a lot of time. Anyway, you aren't comparing on equal grounds. Run Windows on your comp, start fractint and work on it. Do the same with Linux and see the differenc in the multitasking. Its not only Windows that slows your fractint down, its all the badly programmed code for other aplications as well. > - The Multipart gifs need a little workaround, but why use it? You can > - render 2560x2560 images onscreen or on disk. > > If you are rendering images for posters, multi-part GIFs are pretty > important. 2560x2560 doesn't get you very far. I know. I've rendered several 65536x65536 images lately. I found it stupid that xfractint wouldnt do more than 2560x2560 per image, so I wrote a little script that takes the multipart parfiles, renders all images and sticks them back together. Images that large aren't like everydays images. My last one took 3 weeks to finish on my P200. > - Fast, secure, cheap, capable. 4 GB of Software for free. > > As opposed to the who-knows-how-many gigs of free software for Windows? The 4 GB was ment as a rough figure of what you get with the normal distribution you buy. No extra CDs or downloads counted in. Compared to the 0 Byte Windows give you thats a lot. Thats the one thing about Linux that isn't arguable, Linux is cheap. > - How should one start a war between a Operating System and a System for > - Games? :) > > Precisely in the manner that you just did. If you wish to be a Linux > advocate, that's fine (although not appropriate on this mailing list), but > you'll advance your cause *much* more effectively if you refrain from > hurling epithets and instead stick to solid, meaningful facts. If you want Microsoft OSes, pleas at least use their OS, install NT. Win95 isn't an operating system. Windows NT and Linux come close to an operating system. The first for mouse users, the second for keyboard users. May the Source be with you. Mrvn Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 06:17:18 -0500 Terry W. Gintz wrote: > > Morgan L. Owens wrote: > > > > ......(snipped a bunch of unknowledgeable windows bigotry)....... > > > > Do you think I haven't worked long and hard to support my claims? > Just stating my opinions. I'm just one person, no genius, with > probably as much fractal programming experience as any one of > Fractint's authors. If it looks arrogant to state that I think > the Stone Soup group is lagging by not using Windows 9x, so be it. > Easy there Terry!! :-) I for one definitely agree with you and all of your statements. FractInt has a lot of excellant features and abilities, but it has become out of date with todays operating systems and the way users interface with computers. Some individuals are just a little slower when it comes to current technology, so you just have to let them plod along at their own rate. One day, there will be a 32-bit Windows version of FractInt that people will feel the same about as they do the DOS version. And, they will not want to upgrade to the newer 128-bit multi-interface version of the future. That's just the way of things. (It's kind of an age thing.) Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 23:58:43 +1200 I really like the idea of generating several fractals concurrently. They wouldn't render any faster overall (the same amount of computation would be needed in any case) but it would make exploring a lot easier. Whack out a bunch of attempts in one go and kill off the boring ones. The feel would be more interactive. At 00:08 12/05/98 -0700, Terry Gintz wrote: >Morgan L. Owens wrote: > >> > >> I would agree with this as well - so long as Winfract can update its >> rendering in realtime as parameters are fiddled a la Tierazon. Otherwise >> I'd be using with DOS Fractint. > >Morgan,Claims have flew that laziness was not an issue here, but I fail to see the >point that doing in a Windows program what you can't do in Fractint is so >important to reduce a program's usability to nil. > Pardon? I'm having trouble parsing this sentence; whatever it meant, my point being that if given a DOS Fractint and a Windows Fractint that had identical capabilities I would continue to use DOS. I'm happy with DOS Fractint's UI, and changing just for the sake of changing isn't my style. But, as I said in the paragraph after the one quoted, this is a personal choice. > Like I said, you either like >Windows or you don't. Everything you say in this letter is with the latter >emphasis. > Nowhere did I say I didn't like Windows. Using MacOS8 at work and Windows95 at home, I much prefer the latter product. But I do like DOS as well. Where's the crime in that? I'm just pointing out the sorts of things I would like to see in a Windows version of Fractint that would in my opinion make the project worthwhile. >If I was being heckled by you in a computer store(as a pc salesman), I >would be strongly tempted to tell you to seek out a used-computer store, than >waste time trying to describe the merits of today's super personal computers or >software. > ...skipping ad hominem attacks... >There's nothing "arrogant" about what I've said and meant, though >through colored glasses it might seem that way. > As I said, I was referring to your _presentation_ of your case, not its contents. >> Personally, if I had a choice between DOS and Windows Fractints, I'd be >> picking the DOS version, unless the Windows one was significantly superior. >> For a start, a Windows port would have to be able to take over the entire >> screen; without any real estate being taken up with distracting window >> frames and menu bars (or mouse pointers) - but this shouldn't be too >> difficult. Care would have to be taken to minimise clutter; it would be >> nice to have separate dialogue boxes for each of the menu screens Fractint >> offers open simultaneously - but it would have to be necessary to be able >> to remove them and rearrange them at will (I'm thinking of Photoshop's >> palettes here). > >You're talking here of limitations that only a Windows programmer would make out >of preference, or lack of experience. I've always had a full-screen mode for my >windows programs, > Good for you. >...and it's not that hard to implement. > I'm not at all surprised - many programs I have used were full-screen; some were done well, some were done poorly. > On the one hand you say >you want to reduce clutter, then you say you want all the Fractint screens to be >open at the same time. The reason I haven't gone to MDI for my fractal programs, >is the frame clutter. Having several dialog boxes open at the same time makes >little sense, when they open and close so easily. And you don't have to exit the >"graphics" window to see the dialogs in Windows. > I repeat: "but it would have to be necessary to be able to remove them and rearrange them at will". Check the next paragraph, where I say "...hitting 'z' and switching focus to (or opening) the user parameters screen and (say) shift-Z to close it." The only erratum I would like to correct in that line is replacing the "screen" with "dialogue box". Being able to open and adjust dialogues while the graphics screen is still open is an idea I _like_. >> >> And I wouldn't be using Winfract at all unless I can do everything via the >> keyboard including hitting 'z' and switching focus to (or opening) the user >> parameters screen and (say) shift-Z to close it. If everything was mousy >> you would need sliders for entering numeric values (including decimals - >> and you thought sliders for integer values was icky!) And a combination >> keyboard-and-mouse interface is just downright annoying. > >Nonsense. Having a little of both(mouse and keyboard) gives your hands a >chance to exercise different muscles, and reduces fatigue. You can talk all >you want about the merits of touch typing, but IMHO it's a pain to do for any >length of time. Years of typing has convinced me that touch typing is just >plain bad on your hands and wrists. > Perhaps one of us has better touch-typing skills than the other? I taught myself to type because I was fed up with people being unable to read my handwriting; my official timing is now up to 74wpm (with pauses) and not once developed an ache. But boy can those mouses cramp! > Talk to someone with carpal tunnel syndrome. Isn't that caused by poor wrist support? >> >> "archaic help system"? Personally I prefer Fractint's help system to almost >> all the online help available with Windows applications. > >Have you used real Windows context help? > Probably. I've used quite a bit. > There are links embedded in the [Fractint] help file to specific sections, but I >always forget what section to look in to get help about things like the palette >editor or zooming. In my programs, each menu selection has a direct link to the >help section that pertains to that command. You activate the link by pressing F1 >when the menu item is highlighted. Each of my windows also has a Help button >to access context help for that window. If your Windows program doesn't have >these >features, it's because the programmer chose not to implement them, not that >Windows has bad online help. Many fractal programmers who work with Windows >don't include much more than a status bar or simple help file. They're not >getting paid for their efforts either. > Not even the professional programmers? I mean, even Help for Microsoft Word and Photoshop can be tedious wade-throughs at times. And as for Windows itself ... I've just opened my desktop wastebin and hit "F1". The first help topic I'm offered is entitled "Windows, the Web, and You." Selecting it tries to send me to Microsoft's web site. Why I get this when I try to get help about the recycle bin is a mystery I'm not interesting in learning the solution to. And I leave it to you to find where it says in the help how to _rename_ the recycle bin. Good thing those programmers aren't getting paid. While the Help software itself may be all right, it's almost never used effectively. Fractint's help documentation could be easily adapted for Windows, and it would be a lot more useful and easier with it than virtually every online help I've come across so far. >> But may I add in conclusion that Terry Gintz could have presented his case >> somewhat better. I caught a distinct odour of arrogance from his posting >> (was it just me?) and to come as close as he did to slandering Fractint's >> dozens of authors over the years (66 at last count) was just plain >> uncalled-for. > >Do you think I haven't worked long and hard to support my claims? Just stating my opinions. > Likewise. >I'm just one person, no genius, with probably as much fractal >programming experience as any one of Fractint's authors. I could tell: "In my programs [insert great feature here]" - features which I can't fault as being good ideas for a Windows-based Fractint. > If it looks arrogant >to state that I think the Stone Soup group is lagging by not using Windows 9x, ...there was a suggestion of incompetence... > If I *was* to speak out of arrogance I would state for the record > ...'Nuff zed. Good grief: I say I type, like DOS Fractint, mention the sorts of things I would expect in a Windows version - and he bites my head off because he can program them. Morgan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 09:11:49 -0400 At 05:56 PM 12/05/98 +1200, Morgan Owens wrote: >And I wouldn't be using Winfract at all unless I can do everything via the >keyboard ... Several here have gone on about the merits of "touch typing". But note that it is not called "touch manipulating" or "touch navigating". Keyboards are great for *typing* but imagine trying to use photoshop if *everything* had to be done with the keyboard... >"archaic help system"? Personally I prefer Fractint's help system to almost >all the online help available with Windows applications. I will always prefer good dos-based help systems to poor Windows-based help files. But a good Winhelp file will beat Fractint's every time. WinHelp can be like a hypertext book with full indexing, toc, personal annotations, bookmarks, etc and anyone can find it because it has its own spot on the menu bar. By contrast, how many long time Fractint users do not even know that a full manual is included with Fractint? As I've said before, I *like* Fractint but a true admiration and respect does not remain blind to its weaknesses. (although in fairness, Fractint's help system was good for it's day) >But may I add in conclusion that Terry Gintz could have presented his case >somewhat better. I caught a distinct odour of arrogance from his posting >(was it just me?) and to come as close as he did to slandering Fractint's >dozens of authors over the years (66 at last count) was just plain >uncalled-for. Well, Terry is certainly passionate and earnest in his convictions. Unfortunately, he has the extreme gall to know what he is talking about. When these traits are presented together, the result is easily confused with arrogance but that does not make it so. I think that overall, I agree with Terry that a *competent* Win95 implementation is the way to go. Yes, I like MS-DOS. But I remember that when it was first introduced, people complained of its shortcomings as bitterly as they now complain about Windows. Win is not perfect but neither am I- and I absolutely *love* me... I like being able to return to a program after several months' absence and still be able to use it adequately because of all those helpful menus. I couldn't always do that with DOS programs until they became Window-like. Today, far more people with mediocore computer skills are doing constructive work with their computers than ever did before Windows and other similar gui systems. If a new version of Fractint takes advantage of the Win world and thus exposes more users to fractals, how can that be a bad thing? If Terry wants to shake up our world and challenge our assumptions I might call him over exuberant, or maybe even a pain in the ass, but I certainly would *not* call him arrogant. Slander? Terry has his own view of fractal program perfection. Still, he thinks highly enough of Fractint that he has gone over the code extensively and is interested in assisting it to a higher level. By implication, he must also have some respect for the Fractint programmers. His complaints are threefold: 1. No real effort has been made to bring Fractint to Windows 2. No adequate programming documentation is available charting and explaining Fractint's development. 3. Fractint's help system is underwhelming by today's standards The first 2 are self evident- only the last is subject to debate. So what's all the fuss? Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 08:18:32 -0700 Again, very well put Jack and a good bottom line summation. I would add that Terry's comments seem to indicate to me that he is willing to start the effort to provide a choice to the fractal community, not to usurp the DOS version for those who prefer it. I would like to relate the experience of a friend of mine who is a gifted computer graphics artist, but had no experience with fractals. She admired mine so I talked her into trying Fractint and later she picked up Tierazon as well. She was utterly baffled by Fractint but was making very nice fractals with Tierazon within a day. For her the windows interface overcame any of the problems mentioned during this really interesting discussion. She readily admitted, though, that she preferred images I got with Fractint because of the way Fractint handles colors. I know that is a single users experience, but I suspect it is fairly typical of many folks who are completely unfamiliar with a DOS type interface. I have to add that I am shying away from POV Ray because it doesn't have a genuine GUI and I'm intimidated. I use Fractint NOT because it has the best documention, is faster, has a better interface, etc. but because it has a wonderfully rich set of features which produce a superior image (IMHO). That's my bottom line. And I use Windows because it allows me to use dozens of graphics and other applications, not because it is in some way perfect. I suppose I will have to move to NT one of these days..... but I'm resisting (the stupid thing uses 250 megs of hard disk space!!!!)......when all the OTHER applications I need run only under NT. I don't know what OS2 or Linux are because those words are never on any of the boxes at the computer store when I go to buy a new program. Angela Jack Valero wrote: > <> > > His complaints are threefold: > 1. No real effort has been made to bring Fractint to Windows > 2. No adequate programming documentation is available charting > and explaining Fractint's development. > 3. Fractint's help system is underwhelming by today's standards > > The first 2 are self evident- only the last is subject to debate. > So what's all the fuss? > Regards - Jack > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "john Weeks" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 08:46:19 PDT Terry wrote >Do you think I haven't worked long and hard to support my claims? Just stating my >opinions. I'm just one person, no genius, with probably as much fractal >programming experience as any one of Fractint's authors. If it looks arrogant to >state that I think the Stone Soup group is lagging by not using Windows 9x, so be >it. If I *was* to speak out of arrogance I would state for the record than any of >my true-color pictures(done in Windows 95) is more impressive than its Fractint >counterpart, if it had a Fractint counterpart. But you would never believe that, >would you? Check out my galleries, then try to duplicate the tc pics in >Fractint. Try to make a midi or AVI file with Fractint, if you think it's so >great. What makes Fractint "great" is it's wide user base. I am a Windows programmer and make fractal programs that use 32bit color and sound and AVI files etc. These images are superior to Fractint, but I love all the pars that people post to this list and the wide range of users. It's not a question of technology; it is a question of human interaction. My suggestion would be to go ahead and make a Web page with your windows based program and invite people to input their code improvements and suggestions. I'm sure there are lots of WinProgrammers who will be happy to join your adventure. This is the "Fractint" list and regardless of its Pro's or Con's has numerous devotees who, through their hard work and devotion, make Fractint come to life. I find this to be the true power of Fractint. john ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) beyond the hype Date: 12 May 1998 12:37:48 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 11 May 1998, Terry W. Gintz wrote: > But as the poet said "Nothing is revealed", or something like that. The basic > lines of fire have been drawn for a long time. I've been in the fractal game > nearly as long as Fractint(Fra386), since 1984, According to the change-log file, fra386 was in 1988. > With all the steady stream of DOS pandering, Damien probably came closest to > reality when he mentioned the problem of converting 16-bit assembly code to > the 32-bit model. Well, this has already been done with xfractint. > Having a > functional Windows version of Fractint also eliminates the need to support a > hundred different graphics modes and boards. Yes. > Angela mentioned a compelling reason for having a Windows version: > multiple-document support. I can open up to 20 files in my programs, each with > its own "window", and this is an arbitrary limit just to keep the window menu > manageable. Right now I just simulate multiple windows, and switch between > them, drawing on one main window. With MDI or MFC, as Steve Ferguson uses in > his programs, any number of windows can be open at the same time. With > Fractint, you have to save one picture before opening another, etc. This could indeed be quite compelling, particularly on a multi-CPU machine (until after someone builds in multithreading capabilities, anyway.) > If I convert them to hard-coded versions, they > may actually run faster in my programs than Fractint. No surprise there. I've occasionally thought about implementing on-the-fly compilation for Fractint formulas, with VCODE or some such, but never did anything more than think. > I've optimized Paul's > orbit-trap methods to plot up to 3 times faster than Fractint, and in true > color! So speed is the biggest myth about Fractint that I've seen touted. If > I had a parser in my programs as optimized as Fractint's parser, there would > be little speed difference there, a matter of minutes or seconds at most > rather than hours. So Fractint is re-parsing the formula for every pixel? I haven't looked at the code, so I don't know, but that seems rather brain-dead. > Windows provides for edit boxes, so any > custom formula you want to enter in my programs is edited inside my programs, > not by a separate text editor. I'll be upset if a fully-GUI version of Fractint removed the ability to use my favorite text editor. > IMHO, touch typing is not a necessary skill for using a fractal program, or > any computer program these days. Touch typing is still a necessary skill for using a word-processor, and I suspect it will continue to be until voice input gets faster than touch-typing. > I suspect mice and GUI > were invented just to replace the awful burden of touch-typing on a person's > wrists, No. Mice and GUIs were invented so that children who had not yet learned to read could use computers. Touch-typing, done properly, does not injure your wrists. > Programming sets its own limits on the wary typist. I refuse to argue anymore > with what my own hands tell me is the gentlest method of data input. The > business schools and colleges are still pushing touch typing, but who do they > work for? Big business doesn't care about people's wrists, just getting the > job done in the shortest time. If you are doing a lot of touch typing with > your fractal program, you are working too hard. If you're doing touch-typing with Fractint, it's because you're entering formulas. Touch-typing is no faster than hunt-and-peck for navigating menus in my experience. YMMV. Contradictions are welcomed. > My programs use an expanded "palette" editor like > Fractint's palette editor, with additional features not found in Fractint. Cool! > If I go down in flames, I have at least made the effort to rock the boat. A worthwhile endeavor, to be sure. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 12:42:10 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 12 May 1998, Morgan L. Owens wrote: > And I wouldn't be using Winfract at all unless I can do everything via the > keyboard including hitting 'z' and switching focus to (or opening) the user > parameters screen and (say) shift-Z to close it. If everything was mousy > you would need sliders for entering numeric values (including decimals - > and you thought sliders for integer values was icky!) Dials are a decent alternative to sliders for numeric values where you need fine control. > And a combination > keyboard-and-mouse interface is just downright annoying. Yes. > "archaic help system"? Personally I prefer Fractint's help system to almost > all the online help available with Windows applications. Agreed. Primarily, though, I agree because the quality of the documentation is excellent, not because the help system itself is better or worse than other hypertext help systems. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 12:55:51 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 12 May 1998, Terry W. Gintz wrote: > Morgan L. Owens wrote: > > > > Like I said, you either like Windows or you don't. Some of us base our preferences more on usability than on technology. I have used windowed, GUIed-up-the-wazoo programs that were usability catastrophes; I have used non-GUIed programs that were usability exemplars, like Fractint. > would be strongly tempted to tell you to seek out a used-computer store, than > waste time trying to describe the merits of today's super personal computers or > software. There's nothing "arrogant" about what I've said and meant, though > through colored glasses it might seem that way. I disagree. GUIs can improve usability, but they often don't. Usability and utility are what I look for in software, not GUIs. You *have* had an arrogant attitude; just because some companies are making a lot of money by having the same attitude does not make it less arrogant. > > And I wouldn't be using Winfract at all unless I can do everything via the > > keyboard including hitting 'z' and switching focus to (or opening) the user > > parameters screen and (say) shift-Z to close it. If everything was mousy > > you would need sliders for entering numeric values (including decimals - > > and you thought sliders for integer values was icky!) And a combination > > keyboard-and-mouse interface is just downright annoying. > > Nonsense. Having a little of both(mouse and keyboard) gives your hands > a chance to exercise different muscles, and reduces fatigue. You can > talk all you want about the merits of touch typing, but IMHO it's a pain > to do for any length of time. Years of typing has convinced me that > touch typing is just plain bad on your hands and wrists. Talk to > someone with carpal tunnel syndrome. I suggest that (1) you take a basic human factors course with a focus on software to correct your misconception about mixed-mode mouse-keyboard interfaces, and that (2) you take a typing course so you can learn how to type without injuring your hands or wrists. > Have you used real Windows context help? With Fractint you have to > scroll through the main index of the help file each time you want > to find out about a command. Every time. How many minutes did you spend using Fractint? This is simply not true. > I always forget what section to look in to get help about things like > the palette editor or zooming. About the palette editor: bring up the palette editor, then hit F1. About zooming: bring up an image, then hit F1. > In my programs, each menu selection has a direct link to the > help section that pertains to that command. You activate the link by > pressing F1 when the menu item is highlighted. Each of my windows also > has a Help button to access context help for that window. This is also true of Fractint. Except that there's no GUI Help button -- you have to press F1. > If your Windows program doesn't have these > features, it's because the programmer chose not to implement them, not that > Windows has bad online help. Many fractal programmers who work with Windows > don't include much more than a status bar or simple help file. They're not > getting paid for their efforts either. Lots of MS-Windows programs, including MS-Windows itself, have *terrible* online help, apparently because it was added as an afterthought and with the explicit intent of explaining how to do things. It rarely provides a way to orient yourself, browse through nearby help pages, or learn about the conceptual structure of the program, which is what you need to do when your task isn't one of the ones the help authors anticipated. This has been confirmed by several usability studies. It's not an issue of insufficient technology, just insufficient docs. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 13:32:16 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 12 May 1998, Jack Valero wrote: > At 05:56 PM 12/05/98 +1200, Morgan Owens wrote: > >And I wouldn't be using Winfract at all unless I can do everything via the > >keyboard ... > > Several here have gone on about the merits of "touch typing". But note > that it is not called "touch manipulating" or "touch navigating". Keyboards > are great for *typing* but imagine trying to use photoshop if > *everything* had to be done with the keyboard... It would be unusable! > By contrast, how many long time Fractint users do not > even know that a full manual is included with Fractint? I suspect that all of them have *read* much or all of it. I suspect that many of them don't know about "fractint makedoc", which makes a flat text-file version of the online help. > Well, Terry is certainly passionate and earnest in his convictions. > Unfortunately, he has the extreme gall to know what he is talking > about. He knows some of what he's talking about. He certainly knows MS-Windows programming and fractal generation. He thinks he's a usability expert, though, and he's not. > I think that overall, I agree with Terry that a *competent* Win95 > implementation is the way to go. I'd much prefer a competent portable GUI implementation. Using something like Qt, wxWindows, or Tk, which would make it possible to use Fractint with the same GUI on Linux or Win95 (or even MacOS - *desire*), would be an enormous boon. The last xfractint implementation I looked at doesn't even try. > Today, far more > people with mediocore computer skills are doing constructive > work with their computers than ever did before Windows and > other similar gui systems. I agree. > If a new version of Fractint takes > advantage of the Win world and thus exposes more users to > fractals, how can that be a bad thing? No, I think this would be a great thing. > So what's all the fuss? Oh, probably just that Terry and I have prickly personalities and think we know everything :) Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 10:41:01 -0700 At 12:08 AM 5/12/98 -0700, Terry Gintz wrote: >blah blah blah... Terry, I've sat here quietly through what seems like days of this mudfight. But since the battle continues to rage, I guess it's time to add my cup of urine to the punchbowl (tasty visual, no?). The reasons that people make the choices they do may seem cryptic, silly, or trivial, but they are usually based on what, at least to the person making the choice, are practical considerations. I offer myself as an example. Why did I choose PC vs Mac? When I bought my first system in 1991, I was tiring of the politics of my 12 year career in space flight operations and looking for a way to go independent. I had been programming off and on since 1975, and thought (naively, given the speed of evolution in the field) that I could write computer games as a solo effort. I went to computer stores and checked the inventory. For my needs the choice was a no-brainer, since PC games outnumbered Mac by about 4:1 (presumably reflecting market share). No mental gymnastics about performance or ergonomics, just a simple assessment of sales base. Why am I still on Win 3.1 vs 95? The answer to this and other questions on the list boil down to two issues: footprint and performance. My first PC had a 115MB hard drive (large for a personal system of the day), which set me back a good chunk of change (about $400). DOS and Win 3.0 occupied about 25% of that. When I upgraded to Win 3.1, It was because it was a great improvement in the use of graphics. There were the downsides of larger footprint and slower performance, issues which were not resolved until years later when I upgraded from a 486/25 to a 486/80 with a 420MB drive. But Win 3.1 looked much better (does anyone remember how butt-ugly Win 3.0 was?) and useability was improved. I do *not* see such advantages in Win 95 and subsequent Microplot products (realize I am speaking from the viewpoint of the average user, not from that of programmers who write multi-tasking/multi-threaded apps), particularly given the huge footprints (both hard and volatile memory requirements). What was it someone said? Win NT takes 250MB? Has there really been a tenfold improvement in performance or functionality? Not to mention the fact that WIn 95 doesn't "play well with others" (namely DOS). My other major bitch about Win 95 is the approach MS takes with new products. Transitioning from 3.0 to 3.1 was traumatic enough, but worth the pain. When I recently assembled my brother's Pentium/Win95 system, I was shocked at how much the interface had changed, for no apparent reason than change itself. It seems to me that the best products are improved by *evolution*, not *revolution*. The learning curve between the two MS Windows releases is not justified, since the interface is not improved. IMHO, having to hit that g--damn "Start" button every time I wanted to do anything to the system config was a huge pain in the ass. Why change just for change's sake? Why am I still on Netscape Navigator 2.02? Once again, footprint! I don't need "a suite of network applications", I need a browser. I have Eudora for e-mail, and FTP and Telnet apps, and that's all I need. Extending the issue to the world at large, a few more examples. Why is most of the world following the herd to Win 95/98? Mainly because the gaming world was so drawn to MMX technology (which 3.1 does not support) that gamers had no choice but to follow, or, like me, do without the latest and greatest. BTW, most of the "enhancements" offered by Win 95 are due *not* to Bill Gates' software "gurus", but to Andy Groves' hardware wizards. Why is NT languishing in the personal market? Possibly a circular problem (no NT/personal market, so developers don't support, so people don't buy NT, etc.). Totally unrelated, but germane to the issue of relevant needs: Why do people use automobiles to commute to work? Just look at the word. "Self-motion", with all it implies: independence, freedom, flexiblilty, speed. Unless traffic is horrific (as it often is here in Silly-con Valley), point-to-transit is always faster than public conveyances with innumerable stops. The personal bottom line is convenience, not political or environmental correctness. More to the point, why do people *physically* commute to work at all? Especially in information technologies? ** Answer: our masters like to keep us on a short leash. ** In summary, we all have valid reasons for our choices, no matter how obtuse they may seem to others. Terry, by all means please pursue your goals, but forgive me if I don't want to saddle my 100hp "go-cart" of a system, which works great with DOS 6.22 and Win 3.1, with the performance load of an air-conditioning double trailer rig with a 100 watt sound system. Can we please terminate this thread? Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Filtering images with Fractint Date: 12 May 1998 13:47:15 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 12 May 1998, HGtotheG wrote: > On Sat, 2 May 1998, Weldon Morgan wrote: > > process, or can point me in the right direction > and Kragen responded. > > There's going to be a finite limit to your improvements, though, even > if it's possible to do this at all, on information-theoretic grounds. > > As to Wendels thought that, 'There's going to be a finite limit to your > improvements..." The computer, like zooming in on fractals, will > constantly zoom and project, by its programing, its best image of its model. > You will hit a point where there is only black or white but that is way down > in the image. What I meant is that you won't have to zoom very far before the model diverges a long way from reality. I can imagine a 3x improvement in resolution, though. You won't have to zoom very far because images will have certain details that are smaller than the pixels they're in; changing these details in the original image won't change the pixel value at all. Any raster image of NxN pixels could be a reduction in resolution of an infinite number of 2Nx2N-pixel images. If each pixel can only have 256 possible values, then I think that infinite number reduces to (256^(3NxN)) or so. So for a 1x1 image, you could expand it out into a 2x2 image in any of 16,777,216 different images, all of which were possible "enhancements" of that image. Once we start getting into bigger images, the numbers get really big. By modeling the objects in the scene, you might be able to get some idea of which of those images were most likely, but you'd still be limited by the sampling error in the original image. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 13:56:45 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 12 May 1998, Mark Christenson wrote: > > Can we please terminate this thread? Well said, sir! I think the protagonists have said their pieces; let anyone else who has an opinion voice it, and then let's let this thread die. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 19:47:34 +0100 Morgan wrote: >But may I add in conclusion that Terry Gintz could have presented his case >somewhat better. I caught a distinct odour of arrogance from his posting >(was it just me?) and to come as close as he did to slandering Fractint's >dozens of authors over the years (66 at last count) was just plain >uncalled-for. I agree with this. Can't say Terry's reaction to Morgan's posting was much better... Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 20:01:26 +0100 John Weeks wrote: >Windows 98 does not support DOS applications. You can have them both >installed but I for one will continue to let my old 486 run my Fracint >and other DOS applications while I do my Windows on a separate machine >(to avoid hassles). Who cares if the 486 is slow, I can let it chug >away while I work on other things. > > john Windows 98 doesn't support dos apps any better or worse than win95 does. In 95, most of the dos apps i'm running are running well. When NT is conerned, the story is quite different, as nt doesn't allow dos apps any direct bios / hardware access. Windows NT also has problems with some 16 bit windows apps that try to perform direct hardware access. As an example, Borland Pascal for Windows 7.0. The bpw.exe on itself was no problem, but the debugging tools always caused an error saying "An application has attempted the keyboard or mouse hardware as a 16 bit Windows program, which cannot be supported." Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) beyond the hype Date: 12 May 1998 19:32:34 +0100 Shauna Jones wrote: > On 11 May 98 at 22:18, Terry W. Gintz wrote: >> Having a functional Windows version of Fractint also >> eliminates the need to support a hundred different >> graphics modes and boards. >It would also limit the modes available, in my experience >with Windows. Fractint supports a lot of modes that no >version of Windows does. Right. I like fractint's 1600x1200 mode (the higher the better i guess), but my windows doesn't quite support that mode. Also lores modes that can be useful for quick viewing are not supported in windows. The latter can of course be corrected by a setting saying 'winfract' (or whatever Terry likes to call it) to calculate for a variable number of pixels on the screen, instead of a calculation per pixel as fractint is now doing. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.P. Louvet" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 20:15:50 +2 Hi Jack (and all the others), Your message puts some peace and love into a passionate debate. I have used Fractint during many years and it gave me very great moments of pleasure. When I looked for the first time the abpf group I discovered the astonishing Paul Carlson's images. Later on I began to use a confidential and buggy version of Phil Pickard's Fractal Orbits and I discovered that it what possible to do in a very simple way (with a windows program) images very similar to the Paul's ones. With Terry's programs I began to do true color images in the Fractint style as well as stalks and bubbles. Now I can hardly use again a 256 colors program and I think that it has no sense to develop or to improve such a program. It was obvious that the provocative text posted by Terry will give rise to explosive reactions. Indeed Fractint and the Fractint community have given a outstanding contribution to the world of fractal images, without any doubt the _greatest_ contribution. For this reason the Fractint family is a community devoted to the celebration of the only truly Holy Fractal Program, and also inclined to self-celebration. In such a situation there are many "good" reasons to change nothing to what exist. I have had kind discussions with Phil, Terry and Stephen about their programs. I have made some suggestions to each of them : sometimes these suggestions were stupids ; sometimes not. When they were pertinent, I received a new version of the program some days later. How many very interesting suggestions in this mailing group with no result after one year ? These 3 programs are probably no so optimized as is the Fractint code, but I find more inventiveness in these programs made by lonesome programmers than I will find in some 2.01axyz version of Fractint (even if these programmers say clearly that they were often inspired by works made by other members of the fractal community). I admire you all who can write very complex formulae (indeed they are often programs !) to do fractals which can be obtained with 2 or 3 mouse clicks with other programs. I am neither a programmer nor a mathematician (nor a masochist). Programs are made BY programmers but their are made FOR users and not FOR programmers. And now a suggestion : is it a good idea now to keep in the same program complex polynomial fractals, IFS, L-system, strange attractors... The only thing that are not made by Fractint are true color, easy drawing of "new style" fractals, and coffe... Two more specialized programs might give lighter code. I would be very happy if Fractint is tomorrow the competitive program it was some years ago. And many thanks to all who contributed to Fractint and to this mailing list. I apologize, my English is always approximate. J.P. Louvet | Phone : (33)56-84-58-35 IUT Universite Bordeaux I | Fax : (33)56-84-58-29 33405 Talence CEDEX France | e-mail : louvet@iuta.u-bordeaux.fr Fractales sur serveur Web Universite Bordeaux I : http://graffiti.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/MAPBX/louvet/jpl0.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry W. Gintz" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 11:13:23 -0700 Kragen wrote: > On Tue, 12 May 1998, Mark Christenson wrote: > > > > Can we please terminate this thread? > > Well said, sir! > > I think the protagonists have said their pieces; let anyone else who > has an opinion voice it, and then let's let this thread die. > > Kragen Fine with me. Anyone who wants to learn more about the next generation of fractal programming can contact me personally, or visit my websites. Others can meet me on the dark side of the moon... Cheerio, Terry -- twgg@ix.netcom.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/5601/ http://www.zenweb.com/pan/rayn/twg/ http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/palette/31/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 11:33:03 -0700 At 08:15 PM 5/12/98 +2, J.P. Louvet wrote: >Hi Jack (and all the others), >... >I apologize, my English is always approximate. No problem, Jean-Pierre. Moi Francais c'est approximately nonexistent! Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: (fractint) useless tip #314 Date: 12 May 1998 20:20:33 +0100 Damien M. Jones wrote... >Because pressing a single key for it, or even two keys, is a lot easier >than typing p e r i o d i c i t y = 0 :) I can't count the number of >times I've misspelled it and received a complaint from FractInt. and Joe Pearson wrote... >>as well as all the options that are accessible by 'g' only<< Any command line parameter can be written in par format, so you could write a parameter file with all your favourite command line options in it. To access the options just hit <2> and choose the one you want from the list. Here's a simple example... ==== cut and save as "commands.par" ===== Periodicity=0 {; Turns periodicity checking off periodicity=0 } Periodicity=1 {; Turns periodicity checking on periodicity=1 } ViewWindows=2 {; Sets viewwindow to half-size (25% screen area) viewwindows=2 } ViewWindows=5 {; Sets viewwindow to thumbnail size viewwindows=5 } ViewWindows=1 {; switches viewwindows off viewwindows=1 } Sound=yes {; Turns sound (beep) ON sound=yes } Sound=no {; Turns sound (beep) OFF sound=no } debug=50 {; Debug option for comparing estored images debug=50 } debug=0 {; switches Debug mode off debug=0 } cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: (fractint) Oh joy, another newbie Date: 12 May 1998 15:28:50 -0400 Hello. I've been lurking here for what seems like forever, haven't managed to post yet though- I wanted to wait until school ended. I think I've learned a lot from all of you- especially from the great tutorials by Gumbycat and Wizzle. Here is a series of fractal attempts I've made this morning. It should be a treat for any of you who may be JRR Tolkien fans. I'm still toying with it- and I'll let you all know when/if I get a finished product(Are fractals ever really finished? I doubt it...). I've got it looking quite nice, but it doesn't give me the shivers when I look at it yet. A few of these use colormaps from Wizzle's collection, big thanks to whoever made them(I stuck them on without checking the name, and unfortunately I don't remember which ones I used). The others are done by me. Let me know what you think. :) A few final questions; 1- I think I do fairly well in coloring individual fractals, but my maps never seem to work on other zooms/formulas(whereas many of the ones available on wizzle's page look wonderful on any fractal). Is there any specific process to making a good universal map?? 2- Each formula asks for a bunch of params. (z key) I am very rarely successful in choosing good numbers. What do all these numbers mean? If I understood what all these perturbations or whatever effected, I might feel more comfortable about my choices. (But please, explain it slowely and carefully. My brain does not care for math.) Thanks, -RJ DarkEye1 { ; The Dark Eye of Sauron, attempt #1 reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=sqr center-mag=-0.91056811833087170/+0.12388405197653190/34536.62/0.0489/-45\ .86/79.096 params=0/0 float=y colors=z00870<8>000kkkz02<13>z0Uzh0<29>n2Mm0Nm0P<14>m0lzZ0<14>000<15>pP0\ <15>000<15>fF0<14>310X50<15>000WI0<30>MC0tm0<51>980 } DarkEye2 { ; The Dark Eye of Sauron, attempt #2 reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=sqr center-mag=-0.91056811833087170/+0.12388405197653190/34536.62/0.0489/-45\ .86/79.096 params=0/0 float=y colors=z00870<8>000kkkz02<13>z0Uzh0<29>n2Mm0Nm0P<3>m0V<3>W0`w00<5>000zZ0\ <14>000<15>pP0<15>000<15>fF0<14>310X50<15>000WI0<30>MC0tm0<51>980 } DarkEye3 { reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=sqr center-mag=-0.91056811833087170/+0.12388405197653190/34536.62/0.0489/-45\ .86/79.096 params=0/0 float=y colors=000516<3>112000001<13>E0FF1HF1H<19>G1HH1HH1HI1HJ1H<11>V1EW1DX1DY0\ CZ1C<14>xV1<14>_2BY0CX0C<13>J1HI2II2II2I<3>G2IG2IF1HF1G<13>112000000<28>\ E0GF1HF1HG1H<4>I1HJ1HK1HL1HM1H<10>Y1EZ1D_1Da0Cb2C<14>zX0<14>_3BY0CX0C<7>\ P1FO1FP1GM1G<2>J2II2II2IH2IH2I<2>G2HF1HF1GE1F<7>617 } DarkEye4 { ; Attempt 4 reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=sqr center-mag=-0.91056811833087170/+0.12388405197653190/34536.62/0.0489/-45\ .86/79.096 params=0/0 float=y colors=000iiT00IhhS00HggS00HffR00GeeQ00GccQ00GbbP00FaaO00F``O00EZZN00EYY\ M00EXXL00DVVK00DUUK00CTTJ00CRRI00BQQH00BOOG00BNNG00ALLF00AJJE009IID009GG\ C008FFB008DDA007BB9007998006887006666005445004224004<9>00100100100100100\ 0000000<6>500600800<2>C00E00G00I00K00<3>U00W00Z00a00<2>i00l00p00s00v00z0\ A<2>zABzDCzFC<8>zYFz_Fz`G<7>znIzpIzrIzsIzuJzvJzxJzzKzzK000<6>500601801<4\ >H02J03M03<4>Y05`05c06f06i07<3>v09y09z0A<2>zABzDCzFC<8>zYFz_Fz`G<7>znIzp\ IzrIzsIzuJzvJzxJzzKzzK00Oyya00Nxx`00Nxx`00Mxx`00Mxx`00Mww`00Mww`00Mww_00\ Mvv_00Mvv_00MuuZ00MttZ00MttZ00LssY00LrrY00LqqY00KqqX00KppX00KooW00KnnW00\ JmmV00JllV00JkkU00IjjT00I } DarkEye { ; ; ; Image Copyright May 12 1998 by RJ Corradino ; e-mail to:rjcor@countless-codes.com reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=sqr center-mag=-0.91061682690876760/+0.12383459253096580/206289.8/0.02192/-4\ 5.859/79.096 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=250 colors=00000KnnW00JmmV00JllV00JkkU00IjjT00IiiT00IhhS00HggS00HffR00GeeQ00\ GccQ00GbbP00FaaO00F``O00EZZN00EYYM00EXXL00DVVK00DUUK00CTTJ00CRRI00BQQH00\ BOOG00BNNG00ALLF00AJJE009IID009GGC008FFB008DDA007BB900799800688700666600\ 5445004224004<9>001001001001001000<2>100100200300<2>500600800<2>C00E00G0\ 0I00K00<3>U00W00Z00a00<2>i00l00p00s00v00z0A<2>zABzDCzFC<8>zYFz_Fz`G<9>zr\ IzsIzuJzvJzxJzzKzzK000<6>500601801<4>H02J03M03<4>Y05`05c06f06i07<3>v09y0\ 9z0A<2>zABzDCzFC<8>zYFz_Fz`G<9>zrIzsIzuJzvJzxJzzKzzK00Oyya00Nxx`00Nxx`00\ Mxx`00Mxx`00Mww`00Mww`00Mww_00Mvv_00Mvv_00MuuZ00MttZ00MttZ00LssY00LrrY00\ LqqY00KqqX00KppX00KooW } DarkEye5 { ; #5 ; Image Copyright May 12 1998 by RJ Corradino ; e-mail to:rjcor@countless-codes.com reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=sqr center-mag=-0.91061682690876760/+0.12383459253096580/206289.8/0.02192/-4\ 5.859/79.095 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=250 colors=R38C1N<45>M2d000kkkS38<21>m36m36l36<68>232131132<27>8PD9QE9REASF9\ RE<16>0K0000<59>C1M } DarkEye6 { ; best attempt ; Image Copyright May 12 1998 by RJ Corradino ; e-mail to:rjcor@countless-codes.com reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=sqr center-mag=-0.91061682690876760/+0.12383459253096580/206289.8/0.02192/-4\ 5.859/79.095 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=5000 bailout=5000 colors=R38C1N<45>M2d000E14S38<28>W37W37X37Y37Z37_37<6>Y36<2>m36<4>V35<7>\ R34Q34P34O34O34<4>P54P54P64Q64Q74Q74<69>mf0mf0le0<59>000C1MC1M } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) useless tip #314 Date: 12 May 1998 15:33:33 -0500 Les, - Any command line parameter can be written in par format... This is a good tip, thank you. Still, juggling several PAR files to get extra options is a bit of a kludge; having periodicity be on one of the option screens would still be the preferable solution. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hailman@prepnet.ucc.on.ca (Robert Hailman) Subject: RE Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 16:08:12 -0400 DOS cannot be dead until NOBODY uses it anymore, as shauna@aloha.com said. It couldn't be dead now, because everyone who uses any version of PC-DOS, MS-DOS, any of the other DOS incarnations, Win95, Win98, or OS/2 has DOS at some level on their computer. I for one, have 3 computers... an XT that I got for free with PC-DOS 3, a 486DX2/66 with Linux and OS/2, and a Pentium 133 with Win95. As you can see, all 3 of my computers have DOS on them. Win 98 will be based on DOS, as Win 95 was, which is a VERY bad idea in my opinon. If WinNT consumer editon (coming out 'round 2001) does not support DOS programs, I'll have none of it. Getting back to my original point, DOS won't die until nobody stops using it. I NEVER will stop using it... EVER EVER EVER! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry. Robert Hailman Toronto's Anti-Microsoft Guy. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 20:25:22 +0100 Angela wrote <> >I know that is a single users experience, but I suspect it is fairly typical of >many folks who are completely unfamiliar with a DOS type interface. I have to >add that I am shying away from POV Ray because it doesn't have a genuine GUI and >I'm intimidated. > >Angela POV-Ray has both a menu interface and a, well, programmer's interface. It's more like a modern visual, object-oriented programming language than a graphics program. I found POV-Ray's help files clear enough. POV-Ray requires some practice to understand it in detail, but in that context does it differ so much from fractint? Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: RE Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 17:07:27 -0400 // Win 98 will be based on DOS, as Win 95 was... Well, as far as I've heard, Win98 is really just Win95 OSR2 with IE4.0 = and all the other free updates from MS. Anyone know otherwise? Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) "platform wars" off topic Date: 12 May 1998 18:28:17 -0600 I hereby declare the thread on "platform wars" (DOS vs Windows) started by Terry Ginz as OFF TOPIC for this list. Religious and polemical debates about the relative merits of different platforms are not welcome here. I have had messages from several people with a long-standing interest in fractals and fractint who briefly joined the list, only to be blasted away by the flurry of off topic messages on Windows vs DOS. I don't want people who SHOULD be here driven away by off topic discussions. Let me add that recently list participants have been very good about staying on topic. The recent flurry of polemic about platforms is an exception, and I'd like to end that discussion here and now. For the record, the fractint programmers do not advocate DOS over Windows. The reasons for the survival of the DOS version of Fractint this long are mostly practical. There is another list for fractint developers, where professional discussions about porting Fractint to various platforms is welcome. If anyone is interested, let me know. However polemics are not welcome in that list either. Tim Wegner fractint list administrator Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Turner Rentz" Subject: Re: RE Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 20:32:07 -0400 Yes. Win 98 is Win 95 upgraded to include different user interfaces, optimized dll's for newer bios features, etc. The non Y2K compliant versioning scheme (Windows YY) can't tell you much about features but if you open up a prompt (using the 16 bit shellcommand 'command' type 'ver' you will see the real version. If it is a minor release the version number should stay constant (Windows version 4.something) ) Microsoft has publicly stated that the YY series products are slated for technical obsolescence before 2Q 1999; the Hybrid Windows 95/98 and its concomittant DOS based ridiculousity to be replaced by Windows NT meeting at version 5.minor or 6. There has always been acquiescence, public and private, of the limitations of DOS but one thing that will be replaced fundamentalswise is the hardware and video routines in Assembly. These things are a bear. -----Original Message----- // Win 98 will be based on DOS, as Win 95 was... Well, as far as I've heard, Win98 is really just Win95 OSR2 with IE4.0 and all the other free updates from MS. Anyone know otherwise? Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 12 May 1998 18:05:22 -0700 john Weeks wrote: > > > What makes Fractint "great" is it's wide user base. I am a Windows > programmer and make fractal programs that use 32bit color and sound and > AVI files etc. These images are superior to Fractint, but I love all > the pars that people post to this list <> > john > John... Do you have a homepage and what fractal program do you use?? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) Spirit Walk Date: 12 May 1998 21:42:38 -0400 Greetings, The color map in the following par is a somewhat changed "Bud4", therefore the nomenclature of "Bud4a". (Hope you don't mind... :)) Spirit_Walk { ; David Shanholtzer, 1998 ; color map: (Bud4a) reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=dmj-Mand-Cir-Dec passes=1 center-mag=-0.227402/-0.673226/13.61414 params=1/1/0.1/1.1/19/1.1 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=260 outside=real decomp=130 colors=066<3>066077099<24>0ii0kk0jj<25>088066066<68>066450<28>kz0<28>230\ 000000000<30>z00<31>000 } Regards, davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Oh joy, another newbie Date: 12 May 1998 19:00:41 -0700 Hi RJ!!!!! I haven't had a chance to look at your pars yet, but hope to soon. In the mean time..... RJ Corradino wrote: > > A few final questions; > > 1- I think I do fairly well in coloring individual fractals, but my maps > never seem to work on other zooms/formulas(whereas many of the ones > available on wizzle's page look wonderful on any fractal). Is there any > specific process to making a good universal map?? > a. I suggest you start with the maps from the mid-tones section of the collection and study them to see how they are constructed. Where is the darkest color? where is the lightest color? What is the color range, i.e. dark to very light or rather muted? Note colors you like particularly and the range in which that color is used (it's darkest and lightest values). b. Select a couple of all-purpose maps you like and try adapting them rather than starting from scratch. I do this all the time and get insights into what the maps are "doing" as well as expanding my collection of goodies. Replace colors you don't like with colors you do like....etc. c. If you see a par with a good map, definetly save the map. I started with a folder called "linda" where I put all of her wonderful maps before I was confident in my own abilities. I now have folders called "carlson" "gallet" "mitchell" "digiorgio"....on and on!!! Put those maps on to your images .....if good things happen....study the map. And.....conversely.....if you see a good par....try applying one of the maps you have made and see how it works. By and large, it is the construction of the map rather than the individual colors selected (or their sequence) that seems to determine if the map will be generally useful or only in particular situations. > 2- Each formula asks for a bunch of params. (z key) I am very rarely > successful in choosing good numbers. What do all these numbers mean? If I > understood what all these perturbations or whatever effected, I might feel > more comfortable about my choices. (But please, explain it slowely and > carefully. My brain does not care for math.) I still have no idea what numbers to put into the parameters either (except for Julias). So I start with a par and note the numbers used by someone more knowledgeable then "tweek" them. You can download oodles of pars from the Fractint pages at the Spankey site. Paul Carlson had a wonderful tip so you don't have to write down the numbers (which is what I was doing) and then enter them into a formula. Just start the par generating, press z......press F6 then F4 and hit enter twice. That will give you the par as though you had entered the numbers into the appropriate screen starting with the formula. The only reason I know about numbers for julias is because I have written down a list of numbers for julias I like. In Paul Carlson's formulas, Paul gives hints about values to enter into the par.....which I find incredibly helpful. AND......since I never know what number to enter into a formula when I return to it at a later time, I try to keep a representative bunch of gifs that I've made handy in a "startup" folder so I can go exploring some more. > > Thanks, > -RJ > > Happy Fractaling!!! Angela aka wizzle Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Superior Images? Date: 12 May 1998 21:55:07 -0400 At 08:46 AM 5/12/1998 PDT, you wrote: >What makes Fractint "great" is it's wide user base. I am a Windows >programmer and make fractal programs that use 32bit color and sound and >AVI files etc. These images are superior to Fractint, but I love all >the pars that people post to this list ... (Remainder snipped) In what way, if I may ask, are the images of which you write superior to the images generated from fractint? TIA davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) useless tip #314 Date: 12 May 1998 19:22:19 -0700 OK OK OK .....I can't stand it....what is periodicity?? Like a good fractint user I checked out the documentation first and it says Note that fractint normally uses periodicity checking to speed up bifurcation computation. However, in some cases a better quality image will be obtained if you turn off periodicity checking with "periodicity=no"; for instance, if you use a high number of iterations and a smooth colormap. Now I'm sure this is English because I recognize many of the words. I also read the longer explanation on p. 140 of the documentation (which I have as a .doc file thanks to a hint from this list). But I STILL don't know what or any of those other things do for me. Could someone explain how it affects an image and when it should be used? and how? Thanks Angela Damien M. Jones wrote: > > Les, > > - Any command line parameter can be written in par format... > > This is a good tip, thank you. Still, juggling several PAR files to get > extra options is a bit of a kludge; having periodicity be on one of the > option screens would still be the preferable solution. > > Damien M. Jones \\ > dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) > \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) Oh joy, another newbie Date: 12 May 1998 22:15:25 -0400 Angela- Thanks very much for the advice and the warm welcome. I'll be sure to try out all of those ideas. >By and large, it is the construction of the map rather than the individual >colors selected (or their sequence) that seems to determine if the map will be >generally useful or only in particular situations. What do you mean by construction? Construction and sequence seem to be the same thing to me(both seem to refer to the overall layout of the colors)... Thanks, -RJ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) periodicity Date: 12 May 1998 20:58:44 -0700 At 07:22 PM 5/12/98 -0700, Wizzle wrote: >OK OK OK .....I can't stand it....what is periodicity?? >... >Could someone explain how it affects an image and >when it should be used? and how? I haven't scanned the code, but based on my observations (I have thought from time to time about implementing it in my fractal programs) here's my best guess. If you have played much with orbit plots, you have probably noticed that points trapped within the "solid" part of a fractal (or "the set" proper) fall into convergent orbits. If you're within the main node of the fractal (e.g., for the Mandelbrot Set, the main cardioid), they converge on a single point. If not, they converge on a *cycle* of points that passes through the main node, the point of origin, and any number of other nodes (depending on the depth of the midget for which the plot is run). Periodicity can significantly reduce calculation times by bailing out of the cycle after the convergence falls within a certain tolerance; the problem is that for fractals (mostly Julias, in my experience) generated near critical points, the orbits are very nearly, but not actually, periodic (run an orbit plot just outside a midget and see what I mean). In this case the periodicity test is deceived, and corrupted images result. The effect is compounded due to the fact that once it is triggered, the check tests every point on the current scan line until some other threshold (unknown to me) is crossed. I hope this helps? Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) useless tip #314 Date: 12 May 1998 21:47:31 -0700 > From: Angela Wilczynski > > OK OK OK .....I can't stand it....what is periodicity?? > > Like a good fractint user I checked out the documentation first and it says > > Note that fractint normally uses periodicity checking to speed up > bifurcation computation. However, in some cases a better quality image > will be obtained if you turn off periodicity checking with > "periodicity=no"; for instance, if you use a high number of iterations > and a smooth colormap. > Hi wizzle, Consider the normal simple Mandelbrot set. The solid components correspond to regions where the orbit (the iteration samples) eventually settle into a periodic pattern and therefore never can escape. Fractint uses periodicity checking to stop earlier than maxiter. It usually works nicely. However on some other fractal formula you can find checkerboard like patterns in spots where the periodicity checking stopped to early. This parameter allows you to control this. Turning it off will cause a longer calculation time but give a possibly more correct image. > Now I'm sure this is English because I recognize many of the words. I also read > the longer explanation on p. 140 of the documentation (which I have as a .doc > file thanks to a hint from this list). But I STILL don't know what or any of > those other things do for me. Could someone explain how it affects an image > and when it should be used? and how? > I hope my English is understandable. Jay Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 12 May 1998 22:01:14 -0700 I haven't posted any pars lately because a fit of conscience; I would like to provide comment on other work posted here before going back into egocentric mode, but I'm wading through the April '98 par collection. Hence the wish list item. Since I get the feeling that v20.0 is not far off I wanted to get my bid in. If the feature already exists, let me know where and accept my apology in advance. What I would like, to help me get a handle on massive par collections, is the ability to delete pars from the [@/2] par restore menu. This would be a great labor saver for me, and, I suspect, others. Thanks, Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: Re: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 13 May 1998 01:23:32 -0400 (EDT) At 10:01 PM 5/12/98 -0700, you wrote: > >What I would like, to help me get a handle on massive par >collections, is the ability to delete pars from the [@/2] par >restore menu. This would be a great labor saver for me, and, >I suspect, others. > Good idea. It would be convenient to also be able to delete unwanted fractal images from the menu. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) One revised, one new par Date: 13 May 1998 00:44:49 -0500 (CDT) comment { I've posted this formula before along with a different coloring for the first par. The first par in this version looks much better (IMHO). The second par is a zoom into the first. I'm including the formula again. I'm not sure this is necessary. I will be posting pars in the future that use formulas I've already posted and I'm wondering if it is worthwhile to post the formula each time. I have a feeling that if I don't post the formula each time, there will be requests for it that may take up more bandwidth than the formula. What do you think? Paul Carlson } frm:Mandel_3Way {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; real(p1) = escape circle radius squared ; imag(p1) = number of iterations to skip ; real(p2) = number of color ranges ; imag(p2) = number of colors in a range z = w = k = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 c = pixel prev_modw2 = 1.0e20 rad2 = real(p1) skip_iters = imag(p1) num_ranges = real(p2) colors_in_range = imag(p2) colors_in_range_1 = colors_in_range - 1: w = w * w + c IF ((prev_modw2 < rad2) && (|w| > rad2)) bailout = 1 IF (iter > skip_iters) k = 1 ENDIF index = colors_in_range_1 * (rad2 - prev_modw2) / rad2 z = (index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1) * k ENDIF prev_modw2 = |w| range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| <= rad2 } mnd3wm01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mand3way.frm formulaname=mandel_3way passes=t corners=-1.994336436926/-1.994329835296/4.401086666311e-006/-\ 4.401086667012e-006/-1.994329835296/-4.401086667012e-006 params=4/21/2/125 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000OOO<35>xxxzzzyyy<37>OOO000<46>000aG0<35>yx0zz0zy0<3\ 7>aG0000<51>000 } mnd3wm02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mand3way.frm formulaname=mandel_3way passes=t corners=-1.994334425434/-1.994331864002/1.707621626269e-006/-\ 1.70762162697e-006/-1.994331864002/-1.70762162697e-006 params=4/21/2/125 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000OOO<35>xxxzzzyyy<37>OOO000<46>000aG0<35>yx0zz0zy0<3\ 7>aG0000<51>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) useless tip #314 Date: 13 May 1998 11:07:37 +0200 Les, this solves the problem of typing peridocityi correctly, but as Damien pointed could still be several keystrokes to get from the par you were busy with to commands.par (and back again), and most importantly it still doesn't give a way of finding out the existing setting of periodicity. Joe's idealistic design, no copyright reserved: call up an "inside calculations options" screen. periodicity is one of the values displayed. change if necessary. if confused, hit F1 and go directly to the explanation of what & why periodicity or, when you've heard of periodicity but don't know where it's set, hit F1, select a search function with the help system, type "periodicity" (or just "period") and search, to get the same help information. As I said before, this doesn't mean a windows implementation. I'd like to see this stuff in DOS asap (v20.1?). Joe >---------- >From: Les St Clair[SMTP:les_stclair@crosstrees.prestel.co.uk] >Damien M. Jones wrote... > >>Because pressing a single key for it, or even two keys, is a lot easier >>than typing p e r i o d i c i t y = 0 :) I can't count the number of >>times I've misspelled it and received a complaint from FractInt. > >and Joe Pearson wrote... > >>>as well as all the options that are accessible by 'g' only<< > >Any command line parameter can be written in par format, so you could write a >parameter file with all your favourite command line options in it. >To access the options just hit <2> and choose the one you want from the list. > >Here's a simple example... > >==== cut Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 13 May 1998 11:22:12 +0200 >At 10:01 PM 5/12/98 -0700, you wrote: >>What I would like, to help me get a handle on massive par >>collections, is the ability to delete pars from the [@/2] par >>restore menu. This would be a great labor saver for me, and, >>I suspect, others. >Good idea. It would be convenient to also be able to delete >unwanted fractal images from the menu. >Jim Muth And Angela said: One area where I have a real problem with Fractint is in the area of file management. I'd like to see *all* fractint's file menus giving you the ability to delete, rename and make copies of existing files. It would be off-topic for me to mention the name of an operating system that shows one way of doing this. >Joe > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 13 May 1998 11:33:31 +0200 > >I'd like to see *all* fractint's file menus giving you the ability to >delete, rename and make copies of existing files. It would be off-topic >for me to mention the name of an operating system that shows one way of >doing this. > >>Joe >> That's an excellent idea Joe :-) You should also have said the file menus should enable you to see (and/or sort by) the size and date of the files. As a fractint unique it would also be nice to see the calc time, and whether a saved image has completed calculation ... but I can wait until v20.2 for these features! > > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 13 May 1998 12:11:40 +0200 >> Can we please terminate this thread? > >Well said, sir! > >I think the protagonists have said their pieces; let anyone else who >has an opinion voice it, and then let's let this thread die. Maybe it's just the consultant in me (refer to Dogbert for truth about consultants) but I wouldn't like the thread to die just as a load of opinions voiced. Can we have a response from the Stone Soup group? What of the useful features discussed in this thread can practically be implemented in fractint? How long, and how many other programmers need to volunteer? Thanks - Joe Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: (fractint) Double Exposure Date: 13 May 1998 13:12:07 +0200 Paul, Just played with these pars. Very impressive effect: more of a 3D surface effect with colour stripes not following the contours, for a change. Perhaps I must pay more attention to posted formulae. One plea: could you put the calculation time in your first comment line? Some of them are just too long for my little machine to calculate, but I don't want to ignore the entire set just because of this. thanks Joe Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: Re: (fractint) Some boundary trace pars Date: 13 May 1998 06:49:55 -0700 (PDT) I don't have any of the formulae for these Pars. Could someone please send them to me ASAP? T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie WHOOKAM88@YAHOO.COM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 13 May 1998 08:00:36 -0700 I delete my gifs with a viewer in Windows.....actually makes more sense to me since I can see the image prior to deleting it. However, I would like a way to delete maps from Fractint, since I can only see them in Fractint. Actually...what I would REALLY like is a little utility that allows me to see the maps using a Windows graphics program that accepts Photoshop plug ins like Paintshop Pro or Corel Draw. More than anything I am after the ability to compare two or more maps before deciding which one to dump. Angela Jim Muth wrote: > > At 10:01 PM 5/12/98 -0700, you wrote: > > > >What I would like, to help me get a handle on massive par > >collections, is the ability to delete pars from the [@/2] par > >restore menu. This would be a great labor saver for me, and, > >I suspect, others. > > > > Good idea. It would be convenient to also be able to delete > unwanted fractal images from the menu. > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: (fractint) DarkEye finished par Date: 13 May 1998 10:45:25 -0400 I finally have what I've been striving for. These are the two tweaks I made since yesterday. I personally prefer 8, but I thought it would be fun for you guys to see the progression from the first attempt(which was crappy at best) into #8(which is half-way decent). For me, it began looking good after I zoomed in a bit more. Then everything fell into place in DarkEye6, when I added the gold 'veins.' From there, #7 is that same map, cycled a tad. In 8 I only needed to darken a few segments. Have fun with it. I certainly did. DarkEye7 { ; ; ; Image Copyright May 12 1998 by RJ Corradino ; e-mail to:rjcor@countless-codes.com reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=sqr center-mag=-0.91061682690876760/+0.12383459253096580/206289.8/0.02192/-4\ 5.859/79.094 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=5000 bailout=5000 colors=R38<52>S38S38S38T38T38T38<22>W37W37X37Y37Z37_37<6>Y36<2>m36<4>V35\ <6>S34R34Q34P34O34<12>R84R94R94SA4SA4SB4<62>mf0mf0le0<59>000 } DarkEye8 { ; ; ; Image Copyright May 12 1998 by RJ Corradino ; e-mail to:rjcor@countless-codes.com reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=sqr center-mag=-0.91061682690876760/+0.12383459253096580/206289.8/0.02192/-4\ 5.859/79.094 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=5000 bailout=5000 colors=R38<52>S38S38S38T38T38T38<22>W37W37X37Y37Z37_37<2>Z37P36K36J36E36\ E36S36m36<4>V35<6>S34R34Q34P34O34<12>R84R94R94SA4SA4SB4<62>mf0mf0le0<59>\ 000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "john Weeks" Subject: Re: (fractint) Superior Images? Date: 13 May 1998 07:57:19 PDT davides writes: >In what way, if I may ask, are the images of which you write superior to >the images generated from fractint? >TIA There has been some confusion about my post. I hardcode my images into a compiler and have the advantage of 32-bit interface(sound, color, etc.). I have NOT found a fractal generator that works better than Fractint. The point of my post was that Fractint is the most useful and powerful generator (despite its limitations), because of the number of people who use it and contribute to it's libraries. sorry for any confusion, john Weeks If you have any further questions about what I've been doing with Fractals you can reach me at: weeksjm@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Oh joy, another newbie Date: 13 May 1998 08:32:39 -0700 RJ Corradino wrote: > > Angela- > > Thanks very much for the advice and the warm welcome. I'll be sure to try > out all of those ideas. > > >By and large, it is the construction of the map rather than the individual > >colors selected (or their sequence) that seems to determine if the map will > be > >generally useful or only in particular situations. > > What do you mean by construction? Construction and sequence seem to be the > same thing to me(both seem to refer to the overall layout of the colors)... > > Thanks, > -RJ I'm replying to the list because I think that is a darn good question. Graphics are hard to learn because they are difficult to explain. For me construction and sequence are NOT synonymous. Sequence means red follows blue then comes yellow, etc. and color range is the lightest to darkest values of a particular sequence of colors. Construction has to do with the exact placement of the color range. Paul Carlson's maps are very carefully constructed to fit his formulas, so they are an excellent illustration of what I mean. Below are a par and two maps, flx-blk2.map is a variation of Paul's original map. Paul's map is constructed as follows: 1. Each color range is 30 colors long. 2. The color range starts with the lightest value and ends with the darkest value. 3. There is no transitioning gradient to the next color range - the change is abrupt from one color to the next 4. The lightest values used are bright, saturated hues (as opposed to midtones, pastels, greyed-tones, etc.) 5. Black is used as a "filler" at the end of the colors, except that the color in position #253 is red (this is because paul's formula calls for the inside color to be #253 as you can see in my par.) wiz_spiralvalley { ; AVW 5/9/98 new color map flx-blk2.map ; from a Paul Carlson formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=may98.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul corners=-0.53691921/-0.479572948/0.802008049/0.780418614/-0.505911627/0.\ 760664605 params=-0.36665/0.11573/0.02/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zzc<28>cKA000<28>0000wz<27>03C00A000<28>000fOz<28>K0F000<28>00\ 0KKU<26>333222111000000<42>000 } map_construction { ; original map by Paul Carlson colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40z\ z<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<10>000z88000000 } Knowing how Paul constructs his maps and what this construction does, it was easy for me to vary his map to get the result I wanted........a series of colors for a VERY busy image. If you've seen my color hints, you might remember that I said to use a map with black on a busy image to bring out it's structure. So, what I did was to replace every other 30 color range with black. Then I also changed the remaining colors to the "wizzle" pallet. But note that my map also makes the color ranges go from lightest to darkest. If you check out other maps Paul uses or my variations, you will see that his construction is exactly the same Except, the color range starts with the darkest color, goes to the lightest color 10 colors "in"....then goes back to the darkest color again. Different "construction." As a matter of fact, Paul uses the same colors in both types of maps, but the placement of the colors is vastly different and very significant. Other methods of "construction" I've seen are: 1. Start with black......place the lightest value to end 32 colors away and make a gradient...repeat 2. Start with white.....and do the same thing 3. Start with the darkest value of color #1.....put the same color at square # 126.....put the lightest color midway between and make a gradient. Repeat for color #2 - this is a standard two-color map (I have samples in the collection) Hope this helps Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 13 May 1998 13:32:43 -0400 Mark wrote; > What I would like, to help me get a handle on massive par > collections, is the ability to delete pars from the [@/2] par > restore menu. This would be a great labor saver for me, and, > I suspect, others. I too would find this useful. What would be even better for me is a windows par/frm manager. Perhaps a 3 pane window, the first frame listing all the pars and frms in a givin directory, the second having a list of all the entries in the par, and the third showing the actual text of the selected entry. This way you could drag and drop fractals from par to par(I've been copying the list pars into a generic today.par , run partobat, and then cutting and pasting the ones I like into permanent pars), move a formula thats embedded in a par to a frm file, delete whatever you no longer need, add comments, or whatever else. Some other nice features, which I imagine would be harder to add: 1- Ability to right click highlighted text use the windows 'send to' feature to add the text to a par. 2- Double click a par to run it in fractint. Are there any programs like this? It'd be a great organization tool! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wdecker@csc.com Subject: (fractint) gallet-6-08 formula Date: 13 May 1998 14:51:17 -0400 Here are some fun things you can do with Silvie Gallet's formula gallet-6-08. Bill Decker (http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/1450/) frm:Gallet-6-08 { ; Sylvie Gallet, 1996 z = pixel , x = real(z) , y = imag(z) : x1 = x - p1*fn1(y + fn2(p2*x) / fn3(p3*y)) y1 = y - p1*fn1(x + fn2(p2*y) / fn3(p3*x)) x = x1 , y = y1 z = x + flip(y) |z| <= 1024 } frame2 { ; (c) 1998 Bill Decker ; Abstract form reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-08 function=cos/ceil/atanh center-mag=-0.00176519/0.00831852/0.6206756/1/45 params=2/1/5/0/7/6 float=y maxiter=255 potential=256/200/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=MC6000NC6<8>W67X57_96<9>zm0<6>wa0w_0vY0uW0<14>NC9KAAKBA<19>1X10Z0\ 0Z1<29>68a77c77c<48>44K44K64J<12>`96cA5dC5<14>zm7<14>XD6UA5TA5<13>752541\ 551<14>BU3<12>EH4FG4FF4GE5HF6<4>LD6 cyclerange=0/255 } lamp { ; (c) 1998 Bill Decker ; Just a small piece of something larger reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=Gallet-6-08 function=cos/ceil/atanh center-mag=+0.00897415973749732/+0.00899740861882518/1713.816/1/44.999 params=10/10/10/10/10/10 float=y maxiter=255 potential=256/200/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=OB6<7>W67X57_96<9>zm0<6>wa0w_0vY0uW0<14>NC9KAAKBA<19>1X10Z00Z10Y2\ 0X4<3>4U55T56R5<9>GE6HC7IC7<12>eE3gF2iE2<10>x81z70z70<42>P7B<4>`96cA5dC5\ <14>zm7<14>XD6UA5TA5<13>752541551<14>BU3<12>EH4FG4FF4GE5HF6<2>JE6KE6LD6M\ C6000NC6 cyclerange=0/255 } cut-lace { ; (c) 1998 Bill Decker ; Abstract form reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=cosh/sinh/sinh center-mag=0.16845/0.0436802/0.3065529/1/44.998 params=5/1/0/5/1/10 float=y maxiter=255 potential=255/20/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=@satin.map cyclerange=0/255 } textures3 { ; (c) 1998 Bill Decker ; Abstract form reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=log/recip/exp center-mag=-0.949972/-0.86828/0.1671804/1/44.997 params=5/5/0/5/1/10 float=y maxiter=255 potential=255/100/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=rrZvvazzc<4>ffSZZN<8>000<15>czc<4>SfSN_N<2>HRHFOFDKDAGA<3>000<15>\ zmU<5>bVJZSHWPFTME<2>IF9FC8C96864432000<15>zZF<14>000000<15>cUe<15>000<1\ 5>zcm<15>000<15>mmz<15>000<15>mzz<6>T__JOO<3>688344233122000<12>nnX cyclerange=0/255 } pictureframe { ; (c) 1998 Bill Decker ; Viewed through glass bricks reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/cos/tanh center-mag=0.00421051/-0.00680109/3.286374/0.9999/90 params=2/2/2/2/2/30 float=y maxiter=255 potential=255/200/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=6C1<9>BS3BU3BT3<11>EH4FG4FF4GE5HF6<2>JE6KE6LD6MC6000NC6<8>W67X57_\ 96<9>zm0<6>wa0w_0vY0uW0<14>NC9KAAKBA<19>1X10Z00Z1<29>68a77c77c<48>44K44K\ 64J<12>`96cA5dC5<14>zm7<14>XD6UA5TA5<13>752541551<2>6A1 cyclerange=0/255 } butterflys { ; (c) 1998 Bill Decker ; Part of a larger pattern reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=cosxx/atan/asin center-mag=9.74691/9.97431/0.1733668/1/44.996 params=2/2/2/2/2/2 float=y maxiter=255 potential=255/200/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=6C1<10>BU3<12>EH4FG4FF4GE5HF6<2>JE6KE6LD6MC6000NC6<8>W67X57_96<9>\ zm0<6>wa0w_0vY0uW0<14>NC9KAAKBA<19>1X10Z00Z1<27>6A_69`68a77c77c77c<47>44\ K44K64J<12>`96cA5dC5<14>zm7<14>XD6UA5TA5<11>A629527525415515716816A1 cyclerange=0/255 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: (fractint) Conic Sections coloring methods (long) Date: 13 May 1998 12:07:11 -0700 (MST) Warning! This coloring method is not terribly user-friendly, because it is powerful. There are 6 parameters to specify the coloring, leaving none for the Julia parameters, which are hard-coded. But, a "help" formula is included to guide your explorations. Have fun! Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com comment { ; narrative copyright Kerry Mitchell 12may98 Conic Sections Conic sections are sections of cones. Specifically, take a double-ended cone, like 2 funnels placed tip-to-tip. Then, form the intersection of the (double) cone with a plane. The intersection, usually one or two curves, is a conic section. Conic sections can be a point, one line, two lines, a parabola, an ellipse, a circle, or a hyperbola, depending on the orientation of the plane relative to the cone. Analytically, they can all be expressed by the same formula: Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F = 0, where the parameters A through F determine the shape of the section, and x and y are the 2 spatial coordinates. For example, the line y=x can be represented as x - y = 0, or A = 0, B = 1, C = 0, D = -1, E = 0, F = 0. A circle centered at (1,0) with a radius of 2 would have the equation (x - 1)^2 + y^2 = 4, or x^2 - 2x + y^2 - 3 = 0, giving A = 1, B = -2, C = 1, D = 0, E = 0, F = -3. How can these shapes be used to render fractals? First off, the "conic" formula simply draws the section determined by the six parameters A - F, to give the user an idea of how the parameter choices affect the section generated. The standard escape-time rendering method stops iterating when the magnitude of the iterate is larger than some threshold. Since the iterate is a complex number, this means that the escape condition can be viewed in terms of a 2-dimensional shape. Specifically, if x and y represent the real and imaginary parts of the iterate and the threshold level is r, then escape occurs when: x^2 + y^2 > r^2 which just means that the orbit leaves a circle of radius r, centered at the origin. Clearly, the circle could be replaced by any closed curve, so long as it is large enough to enclose the fractal. Open curves can also be used as a bailout condition, so long as the appropriate side of the curve is chosen. This opportunity, changing the shape of the escape boundary, is coded into the "conic-bail" formulas. The six parameters (real and imaginary parts of p1, p2, and p3) are used to determine a section; iteration ceases when the orbit leaves this section. (In actuality, the escape condition is that the quantity Q = Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F become larger than 0. Q=0 is the equation for the escape boundary.) (A note about the formulas: Since 6 parameters are required to fully specify a conic section, this leaves no room in the Fractint scheme to interactively specify a Julia parameter. Three versions of each Julia formula are presented, to give a quick idea of the effect of Julia parameter choice. The user is free to change the specified parameter in the formula, to fit their own needs.) Fractint's "inside=zmag" coloring scheme is also built around the circle, and thus, easily altered to a general conic section. In the "conic-mag" formulas, the standard bailout test is employed. However, what is plotted is the value of Q, as specified above. Q=0 is the equation for the boundary of the section, so this method effectively shows if the iterate was inside or outside of the section when iteration ended. The other two formula types record how the orbit interacts with the given section. In "conic-near", the distance to the section is tallied, and the final color reflects the closest approach of the orbit to the section. In "conic-count", a counter is incremented for each iteration where the orbit is inside the section. This counter is scaled by the total number of iterations for that pixel, and this fraction is converted into an angle for "decomp=" plotting. The standard forms of the conic sections are given below. With a bit of algebraic twiddling, they can be transformed into the general form, for use in the Fractint formulas. point (h,k) x=h, y=k; or (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = 0 [circle of radius 0 centered at (h,k)]. vertical line through (h,k): x=h non-vertical line with slope m, through (h,k): y-k = m*(x-h) parabola, opening up or down, with vertex at (h,k): y-k = 4*p*(x-h)^2 [p determines width; +/up, -/down] parabola, opening left or right, with vertex at (h,k): x-h = 4*p*(y-k)^2 [p determines width; +/right, -/left] ellipse centered at (h,k), semimajor axis alpha, semiminor axis beta: (x-h)^2/alpha^2 + (y-k)^2/beta^2 = 1 circle centered at (h,k), with radius r: (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2 hyperbola centered at (h,k), semimajor axis alpha, semiminor axis beta, opening left/right: (x-h)^2/alpha^2 - (y-k)^2/beta^2 = 1 hyperbola centered at (h,k), semimajor axis alpha, semiminor axis beta, opening up/down: (y-k)^2/beta^2 - (x-h)^2/alpha^2 = 1 coordinate rotation, from (u,v) to (x,y), through an angle theta: u = x*cos(theta) + y*sin(theta) v = -x*sin(theta) + y*cos(theta) [rotating sections is how to generate non-zero E parameters] } tilted-ellipse { ; copyright Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; test case for conic formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=conic center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=\ 1.5/-3/0.75/-1.25/1.25/1 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=000<61>y99zAAzAAzBB\ <61>zzzzzzzyz<60>i1ih0hh0hg0g<61>000 cyclerange=0/255 } julia-circle { ; copyright Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; test case for conic-near formula ; colors by nearest orbit approach to conic section reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=conic-near_juli center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=1/0/1/-2/0/0.5 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=PAb<21>ZKj_Kk_Lk`Mk\ <13>gUpgVphWphXpiXq<33>zyzzzzzyz<31>jZqiYqiXqhXphWp\ gVp<25>WGhVFgVFgUEfUEf<18>K6_K6ZJ6ZJ6YI5Y<3>G4WG4WF\ 4VF3U<14>71M71L61K61J50I<3>30F30E20C20B<2>006000006\ 108<4>30F40G40H50I50I61J<8>A2QB2QB2RC2RC2S<5>F4VG4W\ G4WH4W<14>O9b cyclerange=0/255 } julia-hyperbola { ; copyright Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; test case for conic-mag formula ; std bailout--colors by "amount" of conic section reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=conic-mag_jul2 center-mag=0/0/0.4644195 params=0.2/0/-0.2/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=000<40>x00z00z00<40>\ zy0zz0zz1<39>zzxzzzzzz<40>1zz0zz0yz<39>02z00z00z<41>\ 000 cyclerange=0/255 } julia-ellipse { ; copyright Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; test case for conic-count formula ; colors by how often orbit is outside of conic section reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=conic-count_jul16 center-mag=0/0/1/1/90 params=1/-2/2/-1/-2/-2 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=Jzz<8>1zz0yz0wx<28>J2G\ K0FK0F<30>b0Tc0Ud2V<29>yyyzzzxzz<29>1zz0yz0wx<28>J2GK0\ FK0F<30>b0Tc0Ud2V<29>yyyzzzxzz<19>Lzz cyclerange=0/255 } mandel-parabola { ; copyright Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; test case for conic-bail formula ; bails out when orbit goes outside of conic section reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=conic-bail_man center-mag=-1.77035703032\ 444400/+0.00538871966354182/3247556 params=1/3.5/0/1\ /0/-16 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=y00<40>000<43>xx0zz0yy0<39>2200\ 00010<40>0z0<40>020000100<41>z00 cyclerange=0/255 } frm:conic { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; draws conic sections, not fractals ; Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F = 0 ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3), iter=-1: x=real(pixel), y=imag(pixel) t=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f t=log(cabs(t)) z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) iter>0 } frm:conic-mag_jul16 { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; colors Julia set by magnitude of "conic quantity" ; Q = Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; Julia parameter set to point near 1/16 disk ; bailout set to 4 ; cc=(0.2882,0.0106), zc=pixel, maxr=4, iter=1 a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc if ((|zc|>maxr)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) t=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) end if iter>0 } frm:conic-bail_jul16 { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; Julia set, escapes "conic quantity" Q > 0 ; Q = Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). ; Julia parameter set to point near 1/16 disk ; a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) cc=(0.2882,0.0106), zc=pixel, iter=1, e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc, x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) conic=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f if ((conic>0)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 z=zc end if iter>0 } frm:conic-count_jul16 { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; colors Julia set by how often orbit is outside section ; Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F = 0 ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; Julia parameter set to near 1/16 disk ; bailout set to 10^12 ; cc=(0.2882,0.0106), zc=pixel, maxr=1e12, iter=1 a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3), kount=0, scale=6.2832: iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc, x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) conic=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f if (conic>0) kount=kount+1 end if if ((|zc|>maxr)||(iter==maxit)) t=scale*kount/iter z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) iter=-1 end if iter>0 } frm:conic-near_jul16 { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; colors Julia set by nearest approach to conic section ; Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F = 0 ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; Julia parameter set to near 1/16 disk ; bailout set to 10^12 ; cc=(0.2882,0.0106), zc=pixel, maxr=1e12, minr=maxr, iter=1 a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc, x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) conic=|x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f| if (conicmaxr)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 t=log(minr) z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) end if iter>0 } frm:conic-mag_jul2 { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; colors Julia set by magnitude of "conic quantity" ; Q = Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; Julia parameter set to -2 ; bailout set to 4 ; cc=-2, zc=pixel, maxr=4, iter=1 a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc if ((|zc|>maxr)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) t=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) end if iter>0 } frm:conic-bail_jul2 { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; Julia set, escapes "conic quantity" Q > 0 ; Q = Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). ; Julia parameter set to -2 ; a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) cc=-2, zc=pixel, iter=1, e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc, x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) conic=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f if ((conic>0)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 z=zc end if iter>0 } frm:conic-count_jul2 { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; colors Julia set by how often orbit is outside section ; Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F = 0 ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; Julia parameter set to -2 ; bailout set to 10^12 ; cc=-2, zc=pixel, maxr=1e12, iter=1 a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3), kount=0, scale=6.2832: iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc, x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) conic=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f if (conic>0) kount=kount+1 end if if ((|zc|>maxr)||(iter==maxit)) t=scale*kount/iter z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) iter=-1 end if iter>0 } frm:conic-near_jul2 { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; colors Julia set by nearest approach to conic section ; Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F = 0 ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; Julia parameter set to -2 ; bailout set to 10^12 ; cc=-2, zc=pixel, maxr=1e12, minr=maxr, iter=1 a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc, x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) conic=|x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f| if (conicmaxr)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 t=log(minr) z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) end if iter>0 } frm:conic-mag_juli { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; colors Julia set by magnitude of "conic quantity" ; Q = Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; Julia parameter set to (0,1) ; bailout set to 4 ; cc=(0,1), zc=pixel, maxr=4, iter=1 a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc if ((|zc|>maxr)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) t=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) end if iter>0 } frm:conic-bail_juli { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; Julia set, escapes "conic quantity" Q > 0 ; Q = Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). ; Julia parameter set to (0,1) ; a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) cc=(0,1), zc=pixel, iter=1, e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc, x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) conic=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f if ((conic>0)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 z=zc end if iter>0 } frm:conic-count_juli { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; colors Julia set by how often orbit is outside section ; Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F = 0 ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; Julia parameter set to (0,1) ; bailout set to 10^12 ; cc=(0,1), zc=pixel, maxr=1e12, iter=1 a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3), kount=0, scale=6.2832: iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc, x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) conic=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f if (conic>0) kount=kount+1 end if if ((|zc|>maxr)||(iter==maxit)) t=scale*kount/iter z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) iter=-1 end if iter>0 } frm:conic-near_juli { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; colors Julia set by nearest approach to conic section ; Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F = 0 ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; Julia parameter set to (0,1) ; bailout set to 10^12 ; cc=(0,1), zc=pixel, maxr=1e12, minr=maxr, iter=1 a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc, x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) conic=|x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f| if (conicmaxr)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 t=log(minr) z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) end if iter>0 } frm:conic-mag_man { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; colors Mandelbrot set by magnitude of "conic quantity" ; Q = Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; bailout set to 4 ; zc=0, cc=pixel, maxr=4, iter=1 a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc if ((|zc|>maxr)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) t=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) end if iter>0 } frm:conic-bail_man { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; Mandelbrot set, escapes "conic quantity" Q > 0 ; Q = Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). ; a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) zc=0, cc=pixel, iter=1, e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc, x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) conic=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f if ((conic>0)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 z=zc end if iter>0 } frm:conic-count_man { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; colors Mandelbrot set by how often orbit is outside section ; Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F = 0 ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; bailout set to 10^12 ; zc=0, cc=pixel, maxr=1e12, iter=1 a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3), kount=0, scale=6.2832: iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc, x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) conic=x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f if (conic>0) kount=kount+1 end if if ((|zc|>maxr)||(iter==maxit)) t=scale*kount/iter z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) iter=-1 end if iter>0 } frm:conic-near_man { ; Kerry Mitchell 12may98 ; ; colors Mandelbrot set by nearest approach to conic section ; Ax^2 + Bx + Cy^2 + Dy + Exy + F = 0 ; A=real(p1), B=imag(p1), C=real(p2), D=imag(p2) ; E=real(p3), E=imag(p3). use decomp=256 coloring ; bailout set to 10^12 ; zc=0, cc=pixel, maxr=1e12, minr=maxr, iter=1 a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2) e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+cc, x=real(zc), y=imag(zc) conic=|x*(a*x+b)+y*(c*y+d)+e*x*y+f| if (conicmaxr)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 t=log(minr) z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) end if iter>0 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: (fractint) Frm confusion Date: 13 May 1998 16:09:14 -0400 Just another curious question... Do I need to save formulas as individual files, or can I put several formulas in one .frm like I do with pars? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Frm confusion Date: 13 May 1998 22:59:32 +0100 RJ wrote >Just another curious question... > >Do I need to save formulas as individual files, or can I put several >formulas in one .frm like I do with pars? Ever looked at, well, say fractint.frm. It'd be terrible if all thes frms would require separate files :-) Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) Frm confusion Date: 13 May 1998 18:47:07 -0400 > >Do I need to save formulas as individual files, or can I put several > >formulas in one .frm like I do with pars? > > Ever looked at, well, say fractint.frm. It'd be terrible if all thes frms > would require separate files :-) Christian- Hmm...guess your right. Stupid question. Heres another one: So can I assume that fractint doesn't care what frm file I store a formula in? Will it just autodetect it?? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: (fractint) Frm confusion Date: 13 May 1998 18:55:21 -0400 > Do I need to save formulas as individual files, or can I put several formulas in one .frm like I do with pars? < You can put lots of formulas in one .frm file, just like pars. George Martin Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: RE: (fractint) Frm confusion Date: 13 May 1998 19:00:41 -0400 > So can I assume that fractint doesn't care what frm file I store a formula in? Will it just autodetect it?? < The short answer is yes, it doesn't matter what you name your formula files. Fractint searches all the .frm files in your default formula directory until it finds the formula called for. George Martin Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) One revised, one new par Date: 13 May 1998 16:50:18 -0700 Paul.... Speaking only for myself, I copy and save all formulas posted to the list at the time they are posted (usually). So I don't need the formula repeated. I like your new coloring better too!!! I also tried plopping one of the maps I posted for your newtons a couple of days ago......gives a ribbon effect that is quite pretty. Angela Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote: > > comment { > I've posted this formula before along with a different > coloring for the first par. The first par in this version > looks much better (IMHO). The second par is a zoom into > the first. > > I'm including the formula again. I'm not sure this is > necessary. I will be posting pars in the future that > use formulas I've already posted and I'm wondering if it > is worthwhile to post the formula each time. I have a > feeling that if I don't post the formula each time, there > will be requests for it that may take up more bandwidth > than the formula. What do you think? > > Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: RE: (fractint) fractint v20 and beyond Date: 13 May 1998 21:03:01 -0600 > Can we have a response from the Stone Soup group? > What of the useful features discussed in this thread can practically be > implemented in fractint? How long, and how many other programmers need > to volunteer? I haven't read all the messages so don't know what features you are referring to. Perhaps it would be useful for someone to summarize. I was asked today if "wishlist" features are off topic. I'd say discussion of desired features for fractint (or fractal programs in general) is very much on topic, but if the intention is to catch the attention of the programmers, it's not a good way to do it. I scan through the messages but am likely to miss wish list ideas. What I like about the "semi official" wish list web site is that I can ignore it for months, and when I'm ready, I can find all the ideas in one place. Ideas expressed here will get lost in the traffic. One possibility is to discuss something here, and develop the idea, then designate one person to post the idea on the web site http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/robin.b2/olig/fracwish.htm I like to see really practical ideas that are well thought through and specific. Ideas like "Win95 port" or "truecolor" aren't very helpful because they are obvious and are awaiting programming time and skill. For example, the idea for adding comments to PAR files with variables for the calculation time etc. came from users. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Turner Rentz" Subject: Re: (fractint) wishlist - wish no. 2.18281828 - FIF file support Date: 13 May 1998 22:37:24 -0400 I have set up a web server for the port effort if anyone wants to hit a pretty sparse site with makefiles for the port effort to Win32 http://athena.atr.net Here's wish number 2.18281828 : Fractal Information File (FIF) format support. GIF gets my goat for large images! How to do it: 1. Shameless Win32 platform to give you software based threading and flat memory 2. FIF format code from iterated systems - http://www.iterated.com FIF files would allow us to zoom on our images from the paintbrush and other programs without using the fractal generator and the biggest images will be t e e n s y t i n y f i l e s i z e s. In fact, if they (iterated) give away their trade secret format here, it will likely no doubt show up in almost every paint program on the planet super quick. But what a great place to give it away! Fractal hackers around the world get more disk space overnight!! Anyone with "that old black magic" willing to try them on this topic? Perhaps send a mail to iterated - info@iterated.com or maybe even - michael.barnsley@iterated.com (worth a try.. ) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aq936@freenet.carleton.ca (Michael Traynor) Subject: Re: (fractint) wishlist - wish no. 2.18281828 - FIF file support Date: 13 May 1998 23:16:27 -0400 (EDT) Turner Rentz writes: >Here's wish number 2.18281828 : Fractal Information File (FIF) format >support. >GIF gets my goat for large images! > ... >2. FIF format code from iterated systems - http://www.iterated.com > >FIF files would allow us to zoom on our images from >the paintbrush and other programs without using the fractal generator >and the biggest images will be t e e n s y t i n y f i l e s i z e s. Seems to me , unless they have something miraculous, Iterated Systems file format requires something to act as the image generator so that a fif file is not really analogous to a gif but to a par. -- Mike Traynor People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like. Abraham Lincoln Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Some boundary trace pars Date: 13 May 1998 22:57:12 -0500 (CDT) James R. McKenzie wrote: > >I don't have any of the formulae for these Pars. Could someone please >send them to me ASAP? Done. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Turner Rentz" Subject: Re: (fractint) wishlist - wish no. 2.18281828 - FIF file support Date: 14 May 1998 01:39:48 -0400 Your point is correct! The image does get regenerated!! INMHO PARs should try to find a way to become FIF compliant. The paint programs can then pick them up, it's a standard, etc. -----Original Message----- >Turner Rentz writes: > >>Here's wish number 2.18281828 : Fractal Information File (FIF) format >>support. >>GIF gets my goat for large images! >> ... >>2. FIF format code from iterated systems - http://www.iterated.com >> >>FIF files would allow us to zoom on our images from >>the paintbrush and other programs without using the fractal generator >>and the biggest images will be t e e n s y t i n y f i l e s i z e s. > >Seems to me , unless they have something miraculous, Iterated Systems >file format requires something to act as the image generator so that a fif >file is not really analogous to a gif but to a par. > > >-- >Mike Traynor > >People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like. > Abraham Lincoln > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) gallet-6-08 formula Date: 14 May 1998 01:54:25 -0400 Hi Bill, >> cut-lace { ; (c) 1998 Bill Decker >> ... >> colors=3D@satin.map cyclerange=3D0/255 ^^^^^^^^^^ I don't have this map.... Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) wishlist - wish no. 2.18281828 - FIF file Date: 14 May 1998 17:55:23 +1200 At 23:16 13/05/98 -0400, Mike Traynor wrote: >Turner Rentz writes: > >>Here's wish number 2.18281828 : Fractal Information File (FIF) format >>support. >>GIF gets my goat for large images! >> ... >>2. FIF format code from iterated systems - http://www.iterated.com >> >>FIF files would allow us to zoom on our images from >>the paintbrush and other programs without using the fractal generator >>and the biggest images will be t e e n s y t i n y f i l e s i z e s. > >Seems to me , unless they have something miraculous, Iterated Systems >file format requires something to act as the image generator so that a fif >file is not really analogous to a gif but to a par. > A .fif file would not be very useful if it couldn't be read by anything else. But one idea this does remind me of is having what might as well be called plasma zoom: read in any sort of GIF, zoom in, and use a plasma cloud-type interpolation scheme. A FIF-zoom could do the same sort of thing, but by building a FIF description of current image and using that to guide interpolation in the zooms. It's a pretty cheesy idea, but I have always wondered what a plasma cloud looked like close up (or from a distance). Morgan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wdecker@csc.com Subject: Re: (fractint) gallet-6-08 formula Date: 14 May 1998 07:57:27 -0400 Yes, I did send out one of the pars with a reference to a local map. I've repaired my fault below but it brings up a question that has popped into my mind every now and then but has never embarrassed me up to this point: How do you *force* Fractint to put the color map into the par explicitly? To make the example below, I tried to fool Fractint by making and then undoing a change to the palette. No luck. Fractint must be comparing the map (as read in from the map file) with the current palette. In the end I changed one color by 001 in red and then saved the par. That worked, but it seems a bit of a kluge. Other posted pars on this list have explicit colors in the par, so I suspect that there must be some switch or trick that forces the condition. Any suggestions? Thanks. Bill Decker (http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/1450/) > Hi Bill, > > >> cut-lace { ; (c) 1998 Bill Decker > >> ... > >> colors=@satin.map cyclerange=0/255 > ^^^^^^^^^^ > I don't have this map.... > > Cheers, > > - Sylvie cut-lace2 { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=cosh/sinh/sinh center-mag=0.16845/0.0436802/0.3065529/1/44.997 params=5/1/0/5/1/10 float=y maxiter=255 potential=255/20/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=WPFA8B<3>000<15>zcm<15>000<15>mmz<15>000<15>mzz<6>T__JOO<3>688344\ 233122000<15>zzc<4>ffSZZN<8>000<15>czc<4>SfSN_N<2>HRHFOFDKDAGA<3>000<15>\ zmU<5>bVJZSHTME<2>IF9FC8C96864432000<15>zZF<14>000000<15>cUe<4>SKTQJQNHO\ KFL<2>D9D cyclerange=0/255 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) gallet-6-08 formula Date: 14 May 1998 08:21:24 -0400 wdecker@csc.com wrote: > Yes, I did send out one of the pars with a reference to a local map. I've > repaired my fault below but it brings up a question that has popped into my > mind every now and then but has never embarrassed me up to this point: How > do you *force* Fractint to put the color map into the par explicitly? RECORDCOLORS=yes Put this line in your sstools.ini file. Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) wishlist - wish no. 2.18281828 - FIF file support Date: 14 May 1998 08:58:48 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 14 May 1998, Turner Rentz wrote: > INMHO PARs should try to find a way to become FIF compliant. > The paint programs can then pick them up, it's a standard, etc. I thought you said it was a `proprietary' format Iterated Systems hadn't released. Is this true? If so, in what sense is it a `standard'? Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) wishlist - wish no. 2.18281828 - FIF file support Date: 14 May 1998 15:07:18 +0200 >Your point is correct! >The image does get regenerated!! Turner, what are the implications on viewing speed, if you know? Presumably slowing than rendering a GIF and faster than recalculating a par. But closer to which end? > > INMHO PARs should try to find a way to become FIF compliant. >The paint programs can then pick them up, it's a standard, etc. Which programs? Paint Shop Pro? Not v4. Screen savers? Setting the desktop background? I think it's a good idea (I might know it was a good idea if I knew what FIF was :-) ) but I guess it will supplement pars and gifs, not replace either. Currently I have quite a few images I've saved with "view window" turned on - this reduces the image size dramatically but I can still view a thumbnail in paint-shop and decide if I want to explore that fractal area further. FIFs could be ideal for this. Joe > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael Traynor >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Date: Wednesday, May 13, 1998 6:24 PM >Subject: Re: (fractint) wishlist - wish no. 2.18281828 - FIF file support > > >>Turner Rentz writes: >> >>>Here's wish number 2.18281828 : Fractal Information File (FIF) format >>>support. >>>GIF gets my goat for large images! >>> ... >>>2. FIF format code from iterated systems - http://www.iterated.com >>> >>>FIF files would allow us to zoom on our images from >>>the paintbrush and other programs without using the fractal generator >>>and the biggest images will be t e e n s y t i n y f i l e s i z e >s. >> >>Seems to me , unless they have something miraculous, Iterated Systems >>file format requires something to act as the image generator so that a fif >>file is not really analogous to a gif but to a par. >> >> >>-- >>Mike Traynor >> >>People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they >like. >> Abraham Lincoln > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) gallet-6-08 formula Date: 14 May 1998 09:05:37 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 14 May 1998, Gedeon Peteri wrote: > wdecker@csc.com wrote: > > > Yes, I did send out one of the pars with a reference to a local map. I've > > repaired my fault below but it brings up a question that has popped into my > > mind every now and then but has never embarrassed me up to this point: How > > do you *force* Fractint to put the color map into the par explicitly? > > RECORDCOLORS=yes > > Put this line in your sstools.ini file. You can also do it from the save parameter screen--it asks if you want to record colors there too. --Cliff http;//www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ civil rights are not special rights Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) One revised, one new par Date: 14 May 1998 15:11:21 +0200 Speaking only for myself, I get the time to run about one in ten pars posted. There's no guarantee I have earlier frms saved (although they may be in my email log) - unless they are from last month in which case I've got the entire lot from Les St Clair's site. Joe >Speaking only for myself, I copy and save all formulas posted to the list at >the >time they are posted (usually). So I don't need the formula repeated. > >Angela > >> I'm including the formula again. I'm not sure this is >> necessary. I will be posting pars in the future that >> use formulas I've already posted and I'm wondering if it >> is worthwhile to post the formula each time. I have a >> feeling that if I don't post the formula each time, there >> will be requests for it that may take up more bandwidth >> than the formula. What do you think? >> >> Paul Carlson > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) gallet-6-08 formula Date: 14 May 1998 06:40:14 -0700 Bill... Very nice set of images Angela wdecker@csc.com wrote: > > Yes, I did send out one of the pars with a reference to a local map. I've > repaired my fault below but it brings up a question that has popped into my > mind every now and then but has never embarrassed me up to this point: How > do you *force* Fractint to put the color map into the par explicitly? > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry Bluestein Subject: Re: RE Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 14 May 1998 09:28:42 -0400 Peter Gavin wrote: > // Win 98 will be based on DOS, as Win 95 was... > > Well, as far as I've heard, Win98 is really just Win95 OSR2 with IE4.0 and all the other free updates from MS. Anyone know otherwise? > > Pete > Sadly, no Peter. You are about 95-97% correct. In the 'Good Old Days' of software release protocols, 'Win98' would have been probably have been labled Win95.1 or Win95.2 -- Barry Bluestein - President The Lapis Group - Information Technology Consultants 11629 Deborah DR, Suite 1000, Potomac, MD 20854 301-299-0083 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Kaplan Subject: Re: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 14 May 1998 10:05:43 -0400 (EDT) RJ wrote: > > I too would find this useful. What would be even better for me is a windows > par/frm manager. Perhaps a 3 pane window, the first frame listing all the > pars and frms in a givin directory, the second having a list of all the > entries in the par, and the third showing the actual text of the selected > entry. This way you could drag and drop fractals from par to par(I've been > copying the list pars into a generic today.par , run partobat, and then > cutting and pasting the ones I like into permanent pars), move a formula > thats embedded in a par to a frm file, delete whatever you no longer need, > add comments, or whatever else. after some headscratching... one could teach the win95 version of emacs to do this, with enough effort, or pretty close... There are also some pumped-up win95 file managers availible as shareware that might give you some of this. Try www.downloads.com, or something. > > Some other nice features, which I imagine would be harder to add: > 1- Ability to right click highlighted text use the windows 'send to' feature > to add the text to a par. > Not too hard to write a little tool to do this. Sadly, I don't have the free time today, but if any win95 programmers want to play... > 2- Double click a par to run it in fractint. Does Win95 let you do file associations to a batch file or shortcut? you could write a dos batch file to do this, or make a shortcut to fractint that has a command line that would do this... then you could associate .par files with that, if you're allowed to associate them with something that isn't an .exe or .com file... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 14 May 1998 16:56:07 +0200 >> 2- Double click a par to run it in fractint. > >Does Win95 let you do file associations to a batch file or shortcut? you >could write a dos batch file to do this, or make a shortcut to fractint >that has a command line that would do this... then you could associate >.par files with that, if you're allowed to associate them with something >that isn't an .exe or .com file... Yes, this is possible. I've set up some associations for .frm and .par to orgform, using windows explorer. But for par files that contain multiple names entries, I don't know if you can start up fractint at the par entry menu >Joe Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 14 May 1998 11:04:12 -0400 Ian wrote, > after some headscratching... one could teach the win95 version of emacs > to do this, with enough effort, or pretty close... > > There are also some pumped-up win95 file managers availible as shareware > that might give you some of this. Try www.downloads.com, or something. Great...I'll take a look for the file manager addons. Emacs- I never heard of that. Is it shareware?? > > 1- Ability to right click highlighted text use the windows > 'send to' feature > > to add the text to a par. > Not too hard to write a little tool to do this. Sadly, I don't have the > free time today, but if any win95 programmers want to play... I'm surprised this is something easy. I know the right click menus are different for all programs, and I don't even get a send to option for text... -RJ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Kaplan Subject: Re: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 14 May 1998 11:18:56 -0400 (EDT) RJ wrote: > Great...I'll take a look for the file manager addons. Emacs- I > never heard of that. Is it shareware?? Ah... Emacs is the world's greatest text editor, a text editor so programmable that you can use it as a web browser, a file manager, or almost anything else... it would be very possible to program emacs to do the split windowing thing you describe, though much more work than I can take on right now... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: (fractint) Winfract and Partobat? Date: 14 May 1998 11:26:54 -0400 I just downloaded Winfract, and while it clearly isn't as great as Fractint dos(I would adore color cycling, but I take what I can get), I find it's quite a nice fractal program, IMHO. I like the fact that it doesn't have a zillion toolbars and so forth, so it's just as uncluttered as the dos version. Also it allows for that *tiny* zoom box, whereas fractint dos' smallest size is still rather large. What I was wondering is if there is a way to run Partobat(or something similar) with Winfract. In dos I can't multitask- so the only time I can run the bats is at night. I'd much rather do it durring the day, so I can chat, surf, write poetry, etc. Any ideas?? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: (fractint) Fractals and Poetry Date: 14 May 1998 11:30:24 -0400 What would be the best way to imbed a poem in a fractal? My hope is to start writing poems with fractals to go along with them. My only ideas are; 1- Use paint shop pro to type the poem over the GIF, but I know the list isn't too wild about attachments. Also, I wonder if that would have a negative effect on zooming etc. if the gif was loaded back into fractint. 2- Comments in a par, but I wouldn't exactly call that artisticly intertwined with the fractal. You can't even see the comments within fractint... -RJ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: (fractint) Guide to Julia sets Date: 14 May 1998 17:37:16 +0200 Paul D: I like your guide to the m-set. http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/manguide.html Now, what about a Julia set guide that explains these Herman disks, Siegel rings, Heinz baked beans and other major features that I keep hearing about? Joe BakedBeans { ; Joe Pearson 1998-May-08 t= 0:03:57.6 ; Par/frm from Paul Carlson, recoloured, with apologies ; time is on a 486-75 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.8503401 params=2/0.2/0.359166203/-0.09033392599999999/2/10 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=yV0zW0<28>c40zW0<28>c40zW0<28>\ c40zW0<28>c40zW0<28>c40zW0<28>c40zW\ 0<28>c40zW0<28>c40000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 14 May 1998 11:42:19 -0400 Ahh...I bet that would work well. Sounds much easier than starting from scratch. Now, the big question. Do I need to do any programing to get good use out of it? Are any of the file manager capabilities already in it? Right now I use PFE as a notepad replacment...would this be worth the download(or worth the money, if it's commercialware)? It certainly sounds cool... Thanks, -RJ Ian wrote; > Ah... Emacs is the world's greatest text editor, a text editor so > programmable that you can use it as a web browser, a file manager, or > almost anything else... it would be very possible to program emacs to do > the split windowing thing you describe, though much more work than I can > take on right now... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: (fractint) Newbie basic par Date: 14 May 1998 17:49:30 +0200 Hi. About time I posted an original par, I suppose. As a believer in the basic Mandelbrot/Julia formula being enough for a lifetime, and being limited in available processing power for complex formulae, I've done most exploring there. This par shows one of the more complex Julia sets I found early on (at low zooms!), where unexpected structures emerge over an order of magnitude. Float=yes is required (I couldn't work out why there were fuzzy blocks in the middle, until I turned float on). Joe Pentagram { ;"Double Pentagram" (c) Joe Pearson May 06, 1998 t= 0:07:23.64 ; time on 486-75 640x480 reset=1960 type=julia center-mag=-0.00000000000000000/+0.00000000000000000/1523.981/1/65 params=-0.7612078329687501/0.08479657003125 float=y maxiter=2000 logmap=518 colors=000004<186>00x00y00y00z11z<59>xxzzzzzzzzzz } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Kaplan Subject: Re: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 14 May 1998 11:51:02 -0400 (EDT) > > Ahh...I bet that would work well. Sounds much easier than starting from > scratch. > > Now, the big question. Do I need to do any programing to get good use out > of it? Are any of the file manager capabilities already in it? Right now I > use PFE as a notepad replacment...would this be worth the download(or worth > the money, if it's commercialware)? It certainly sounds cool... > > Thanks, > -RJ well... emacs is non-easy, particularly if you aren't coming from a UNIX background... it's free, of course, and worth playing with, but I can't guarantee you'll find it easy enough to be useful, or useful enough to be easy, or something... there are FAQs on emacs findable on the web... > > Ian wrote; > > > Ah... Emacs is the world's greatest text editor, a text editor so > > programmable that you can use it as a web browser, a file manager, or > > almost anything else... it would be very possible to program emacs to do > > the split windowing thing you describe, though much more work than I can > > take on right now... > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractals and Poetry Date: 14 May 1998 13:03:33 -0400 RJ wrote: >>> What would be the best way to imbed a poem in a fractal? My hope is to start writing poems with fractals to go along with them. My only ideas are; 1- Use paint shop pro to type the poem over the GIF, but I know the list isn't too wild about attachments. Also, I wonder if that would have a negative effect on zooming etc. if the gif was loaded back into fractint. <<< RJ: This sounds like a great idea! I'm not sure what the best way is, although using PSP would work. However, it is rather difficult to manipulate text in PSP and other paint programs. And once you save the GIF, you cannot go back and edit the text. I have never tried this in a WP program but I suspect it wouldn't work; text manipulation would be easy but I'm not sure that you could put text on top of a picture. Also, WP programs tend to be proprietary. Perhaps the best solution would be a Desk Top Publishing program, if you have one. DTP programs are supposed to be good at both text and graphics. I hope someone who knows more about this will jump in an make a recommendation. As you suspected, once you manipulate the GIF in another program, you would lose the ability to zoom in fractint, in fact you would lose all the fractint info in the GIF. Actually, I did something very similar to this. I printed our wedding invitations with a light fractal in the background. I ended up using Print Artist (a greeting card program) to do it. PA has great text manipulation (change fonts, resize, correct errors, special effects, etc.). It is not a paint program but it will use any GIF, JPG, BMP, etc. that you point it to. It does allow you to easily move or resize the graphic, though. The printed invitations look very nice but unless you own PA, you would not be able to see it on screen. PA does allow you to export to JPG, but the exported images usually don't look very good. Let us know what you come up with. I'm sure you could find somebody with space on their server to post your images. Nick Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: RE: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 14 May 1998 13:37:11 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 14 May 1998, RJ Corradino wrote: > Ian wrote, > > after some headscratching... one could teach the win95 version of emacs > > to do this, with enough effort, or pretty close... > > Emacs- I never heard of that. Is it shareware?? No, it's free software, which means you can use or modify it just about however you like, a lot like Fractint. It's a text editor, originally written for ITS in the early 1970s. It's grown since then, and now it includes a Lisp programming environment, an integrated development environment for other languages, a mailreader, a news reader, a web browser, and some other things. It's so good, it won its author -- Richard M. Stallman -- a MacArthur Foundation "genius" grant. Its author has also been a primary force behind the creation of Linux. It's rather hard to begin using, in my experience. Most of the best Unix programmers use it, because it's extremely easy to use once you learn how. However, it *also* has the ability to be programmed to do all sorts of perverted things, like act as a file manager, without too much effort, and be fairly easy to use at the same time. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: RE: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 14 May 1998 14:07:47 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 14 May 1998, RJ Corradino wrote: > Now, the big question. Do I need to do any programing to get good use out > of it? Are any of the file manager capabilities already in it? Right now I It does have a file-manager in it already. It doesn't display thumbnail .gifs or anything yet, let alone invoke Fractint to render .pars. It would require programming to add these capabilities. > use PFE as a notepad replacment...would this be worth the download(or worth > the money, if it's commercialware)? It certainly sounds cool... Myself, I don't have Emacs installed on my NT machines at work or my Linux machine at home, because it's kind of slow. It's a great editor, though. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) Newbie basic par Date: 14 May 1998 14:11:19 -0400 I love the structure, Joe! I got an error, and I *think* I fixed the par properly. The second one is the same zoom with a colormap I made yesterday(Angela's advice has really paid off. Compare this to the one I posted yesterday. Much better IMHO!). Hope you don't mind. I think it brings out the detail more. Enjoy! -RJ Pentagram { ;"Double Pentagram" (c) Joe Pearson May 06, 1998 t=0:07:23.64 ; time on 486-75 640x480 reset=1960 type=julia center-mag=-0.00000000000000000/+0.00000000000000000/1523.981/1/65 params=-0.7612078329687501/0.08479657003125 float=y maxiter=2000 logmap=518 colors=000004<186>00x00y00y00z11z<59>xxzzzzzzzzzz } RJ_Pentagram { ; "Double Pentagram" W/ diff colormap reset=1960 type=julia center-mag=+0.00000000000000000/+0.00000000000000000/1523.981/1/65 params=-0.7612078329687501/0.08479657003125 float=y maxiter=2000 logmap=518 colors=z000AW<6>024000200<14>h00<15>hhh<14>h33h00f00<14>000<20>g00j00k00\ r77zFF<5>zzz<6>z00<8>000<15>z00<38>000<8>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<15>0Kz<6>zzz<\ 8>0Kz<6>0C_ } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: RE Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 14 May 1998 15:07:42 -0400 // Sadly, no Peter. You are about 95-97% correct. In the 'Good Old=20 // Days' of software release protocols, 'Win98' would have been=20 // probably have // been labled Win95.1 or Win95.2 Ha!!! That's what I tell my friends what Win98 *really* is, Win95.3. = (SP1 is 95.1, osr2 is 95.2, so 98=3D=3D95.3, right? it's the *new* = math) You're about the only other person I've heard put it that way. = That's pretty funny, I think... :) Microsoft wouldn't want to be = called 'behind', though... Their as up-to-date as anyone else! (at = least their names are :) ) Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) April '98 pars Date: 14 May 1998 12:21:45 -0700 comment { commentary and pars by Mark "Bud" Christenson 5/14/98 Okay, time to be socially responsible. Given the volume of traffic on this list and the limited spare time in our lives, I'm sure most of us have to arbitrarily limit what we cut, paste, and review. I am as guilty as anyone, and would like aknowledge some nice stuff I missed the first time around. I just got done reviewing the April '98 par collection, something that would have not been possible without Les St. Claire's efforts (thanks, Les!). Here, in no particular order, are some of my "new" faves, and what they remind me of (as necessary): Paul Carlson: eqn5j01 - fancy layered gift-wrap ribbons pewter_midget Wizzle: paul_swirl carl_eqn5frml hollywood_bowl5 - halo floating above a lotus blossom Gedeon Peteri: gp-n3w-01 g-gj2-06 Kathy Roth: center# - nice textures (all) center2 center3 center4 David E S: Royal_'brot Sylvie: 002megafloral2-m Bob Margolis: North-South Painting_in_Museum F_L_Wright_Window - I'm sure Frank would be proud! Stringy_Spiral - remember those spinning splatter-paint thingies? Is that enough already?!? Anyway, now that I've paid my debt to fractal society, back to your regularly schedule exhibitionism... Here are my first releases of gravijul_2u, and a new gravijul. Bud } ; ** pars gj2u1m1 { ; "Icon", (c) Mark "Bud" Christenson 1998 (5/10) ; reminds me of a carved supernatural figurine reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm formulaname=gravijul_2u function=sin/log/ident/asin passes=t center-mag=-0.866401/0/1.169355/1/90 params=0.95/0/0/0.143/4.5/4 float=y inside=111 decomp=256 colors=LK0<18>d20e10g00i00<8>z00<8>i00g00f00e11<18>MJJKKKLLL<24>iiijjjll\ lnnn<2>sss<3>llljjjiiihhh<23>LLLKKKKKL<13>7R_6S`5Ta4Ub3Vc<4>1_k1am0bo0dq\ 0es<3>0kz<7>0_k0Zi0Yh0Xf1We<18>JLMKKKLKK<18>d`LeaLgbMicN<8>zsX<6>mgQkePi\ dOhcN<21>KK0 cyclerange=0/255 } gj2u1n { ; "Demon" de *1m - (c) Mark "Bud" Christenson 1998 (5/9) ; another beast staring out of the fractal abyss reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm formulaname=gravijul_2u function=sin/log/flip/asin passes=t center-mag=-0.597817/0/1.685654/1/90 params=0.95/0/0/0.143/4.5/4 float=y inside=111 decomp=256 colors=LK0<18>d20e10g00i00<8>z00<8>i00g00f00e11<18>MJJKKKLLL<24>iiijjjll\ lnnn<2>sss<3>llljjjiiihhh<23>LLLKKKKKL<13>7R_6S`5Ta4Ub3Vc<4>1_k1am0bo0dq\ 0es<3>0kz<7>0_k0Zi0Yh0Xf1We<18>JLMKKKLKK<18>d`LeaLgbMicN<8>zsX<6>mgQkePi\ dOhcN<21>KK0 cyclerange=0/255 } gj2u1w1 { ; "Gills", (c) Mark "Bud" Christenson 1998 (5/10) ; exchanging gasses between water and blood reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm formulaname=gravijul_2u function=sin/cosh/tanh/atanh passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.2373444 params=1/0/0.92/0/-1/4 float=y inside=111 decomp=256 colors=LK0<18>d20e10g00i00<8>z00<8>i00g00f00e11<18>MJJKKKLLL<24>iiijjjll\ lnnn<2>sss<3>llljjjiiihhh<23>LLLKKKKKL<14>6S`5Ta4Ub3Vc3Wd<3>1_k1am0bo0dq\ 0es<3>0kz<7>0_k0Zi0Yh0Xf1We<18>JLMKKKLKK<18>d`LeaLgbMicN<8>zsX<6>mgQkePi\ dOhcN<21>KK0 } gj2m1 { ; "Circular Logic", (c) Bud 5/3/98 ; proving atan still has advantages over decomp (tighter color ranges) reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=budz.frm formulaname=gravijul function=sin/sqrt/acos passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.4295689 params=1/0/0.055/0/2.95/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=240 outside=atan colors=000hbz<40>2yz0zz1zy<57>xz2zz0zz1<57>zVxzUzyUz<38>Mnzzzz<34>SSSh0h\ QQQ<13>CCC cyclerange=1/203 } ; *** frms gravijul_2u { ; Variation of gravijul formula - Philip DiGiorgi 3/98 ; Original formula by Mark Christenson bailout = imag(p3), k = real(p3) z = abs(pixel): x = real(z), y = imag(z) w = fn1(x) + k*y, v = fn1(y) + k*x u = fn2(w + flip(v)) z = fn4(p1/fn3(u*u)) + p2 |z| < bailout } gravijul { ; generalized r^(-2) by Mark "Bud" Christenson 1/25/98 ; defaults: p1 = (1,0) p2 = (0,0) p3 = (4,0) z = pixel: w = fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 |z| < p3 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: (fractint) Another newbie Date: 14 May 1998 21:27:52 +0100 as a well-educated new list member I would like to intruduce myself to you. My name is Oliver Klimek and I am 30 years old. I have studied physics which allows me to cope with the math side of fractalogy. But as I am more inclined to the experimental side of science, I have to admit that rotating quaternions in Hilbert space is not one of my favorite pastimes. So when it comes to hardcore discussions about Herman rings etc. don't expect me to participate. My interest in fractals is about as old as my interest in computers. It all started when the first mandelbrot programs popped up in the computer mags in the 80s. I still remeber typing the BASIC code in my little Atari 800 (it was better than the C64 , but nobody wanted to know) and waiting for half an hour for the basic madelbrot (no pun intended) to render on 320x200. Well, those were the days... I know Fractint since I had "discovered" the internet in 1990. I have never used it extensively until lately because I had to delete it from my machine a couple of times out of disk space problems (shame on me, I know, but 120 MB is not very much). Anyway, now with a couple of gigs to spare I decided to reiterate my efforts in fractal design (pun intended). My primary interest in fractals is not to make "artsy" pictures, but rather to explore the uncharted quadrants of Fractalonia, to boldly zoom where no-one has zoomed before and to find interesting things there. It is sort of like a Fractal Trek approach. I suspect it is my scientific spirit that forces me to do so. You might call me an inside=0/outside=iter/decomp=0 purist. This does not mean that I don't like all these pictures with nifty coloring effects. I love to look at them, but somehow I think I should do something different. It is true that with some "special effects" you can make an otherwise boring image look interesting. But I prefer to go for those that are interesting whitout having to polish them. There is so much to see out there that there's no time to waste:) To explain what I mean, here are two example pars using built-in formulas and colormaps. I didn't bother tweaking the colormaps because they look just fine. ------ snip -------- Hallelujah { (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII reset=1960 type=mandel4 center-mag=-1.25572013634630100/+0.00000000088587647/9.331946e+011/1/-42\ .495/-0.006 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=2000 bailout=8 inside=0 logmap=183 colors=000FFF<29>x11z00z10<29>zx0zz0zz1<29>zzxzzzzzz<61>zV1zU0zU0zT0<28>\ z10z00z00y00<30>c00b11a11`22_22<25>FFF } SpiralOfDoomstiny { (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII reset=1960 type=barnsleyj1 center-mag=0.519156/-0.0375416/2.976768 params=1.041092677582345/-0.2267429885282054 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 logmap=27 colors=000000<29>00k00m01m<29>0ky0mz1mz<30>zzz<46>2zz0zz0yz<45>02z00z00y\ <59>002000000 } ------- snap ------- keep on fraccin' Oliver Klimek Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: RE: RE Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 14 May 1998 16:48:10 -0400 What does any of this have to do with the Fractint List? Marie -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gavin Sent: Thursday, May 14, 1998 3:08 PM Ha!!! That's what I tell my friends what Win98 *really* is, Win95.3. (SP1 is 95.1, osr2 is 95.2, so 98==95.3, right? it's the *new* math) You're about the only other person I've heard put it that way. That's pretty funny, I think... :) Microsoft wouldn't want to be called 'behind', though... Their as up-to-date as anyone else! (at least their names are Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hailman@PrepNet.ucc.on.ca (Robert Hailman) Subject: RE RE: RE Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 14 May 1998 16:42:52 -0400 It had something to do with Fractint originally. It just kinda got lost. > mariedrozdis@worldnet.att.net wrote: > What does any of this have to do with the Fractint List? > Marie > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gavin > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 1998 3:08 PM > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: RE Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond > > Ha!!! That's what I tell my friends what Win98 *really* is, Win95.3. (SP1 > is 95.1, osr2 is 95.2, so 98==95.3, right? it's the *new* math) You're > about the only other person I've heard put it that way. That's pretty > funny, I think... :) Microsoft wouldn't want to be called 'behind', > though... Their as up-to-date as anyone else! (at least their names are) > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: (fractint) Heavens Gate par Date: 14 May 1998 16:39:38 -0400 Heres a nice zoom on DMJ-Mand-PNT-And-I. Uses Damien M. Jones' funky coloring method and colormap Gallet05. Looks great I think! Cycle the colors...I did it for almost an hour trying to decide where to leave it. Looked good everywhere... Loads slow though. Be warned. -RJ PS- the frm file is rather long, and I don't know how much of it I need to post. If you guys need it, I'll put it up...otherwise I found it on DMJ's web page at: http://www.fractalus.com/misc/dmj-pub.zip hgate { ; Heaven's Gate; from DMJ-Mand-PNT-And-I ; Colormap is Gallet05 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj-pub.frm formulaname=dmj-mand-pnt-ang-i center-mag=+0.20312911440366170/+0.56105580543252540/2100.702/1.5496 params=0/0/0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=z00kkk<11>000<15>0Kz<6>zzz<8>0Kz<14>024000200<14>h00<15>0hh<15>h0\ 0<15>000<20>g00j00k00r77zFF<5>zzz<6>z00<8>000<15>z00<34>700500620<3>EE0<\ 6>zz0<15>zzz<2>ooo } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Heavens Gate par Date: 14 May 1998 17:43:36 -0400 >> hgate { ; Heaven's Gate; from DMJ-Mand-PNT-And-I >> ; Colormap is Gallet05 Nice image, but the colormap is not Gallet05! Here it is with Gallet05= (I also changed maxiter): sg-hgate { ; Heaven's Gate; from DMJ-Mand-PNT-And-I ; Colormap is Gallet05 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D_d.frm formulaname=3Ddmj-mand-pnt-ang-i center-mag=3D+0.20312911440366170/+0.56105580543252540/2100.702/1.5496 params=3D0/0/0/0/0/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D511 inside=3D0 decomp=3D256 periodicity=3D0 colors=3DA50<16>QE0RF0TG0<2>WJ0YK0YK0<14>jU0jU0kV0kV0lW0<9>q`2ra2sb3sb4= <11\ >viGwiHwjIxkKxkL<6>zpZ000<18>000F50<10>PFAQGBQGBRHB<8>XNDYOEYOEZPF_QG<1= 3\ >kbPlcQmdRmdSneSofT<14>xoexpfyqgzrhE0B<89>403 } Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) Heavens Gate par Date: 14 May 1998 18:26:46 -0400 LOL your right. Sorry, I must have saved the par in the wrong map :) The one I sent was my own map- I saved it with both and copied the wrong one. Both are groovy, I guess. It's a wonderful map Sylvie! > Nice image, but the colormap is not Gallet05! Here it is with Gallet05 > (I also changed maxiter): > > sg-hgate { ; Heaven's Gate; from DMJ-Mand-PNT-And-I > ; Colormap is Gallet05 > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_d.frm > formulaname=dmj-mand-pnt-ang-i > center-mag=+0.20312911440366170/+0.56105580543252540/2100.702/1.5496 > params=0/0/0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=511 inside=0 decomp=256 > periodicity=0 > > colors=A50<16>QE0RF0TG0<2>WJ0YK0YK0<14>jU0jU0kV0kV0lW0<9>q`2ra2sb3sb4<11\ > > >viGwiHwjIxkKxkL<6>zpZ000<18>000F50<10>PFAQGBQGBRHB<8>XNDYOEYOEZPF_QG<13\ > >kbPlcQmdRmdSneSofT<14>xoexpfyqgzrhE0B<89>403 > } > > Cheers, > > - Sylvie > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractals and Poetry Date: 14 May 1998 18:53:02 -0400 At 11:30 AM 5/14/1998 -0400, you wrote: >What would be the best way to imbed a poem in a fractal? My hope is to >start writing poems with fractals to go along with them. My only ideas are; > >1- Use paint shop pro to type the poem over the GIF, If I understand the query correctly, in PSP it should be fairly simple. Click on the "Text" button on the tool bar (the lg "A") and go from there. You can add text to the image (an overlay/embedding)using different fonts and different sizes. This would be similar to signing the art work. You can also click on "help", index, type in "text", follow instructions... If you wish to post it, alt.binaries.pictures.fractals is one place that it would fit (be sure to use a key word in the title - some start with "Fractal"). The fractal would be viewable in fractint, but only as a .gif, and it would be somewhat ... altered? ... shall we say? This can be done via a d/d directly into Fractint, crank it up, hit "R", choose the image. Hope this helps.... davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) April '98 pars Date: 14 May 1998 17:29:18 -0700 Wow Bud... I feel like I've been reveiwed by the NY Times Fractal Critic!!!! Thanks for the kind words. I too don't have time to comment on every single par, but I do try to LOOK at them all....and they are all great...keep them coming!! I'm sure part of my problem is that I get diverted by the pars I see and want to fiddle .....Just A Bit.....before going on to the next par. Usually justabit turns into several hours. It's particularly neat to see the pars from the new folks.....as well as their progress.....which is pretty astonishing. I wish I'd known about this list when I was starting out. Hey!!! I learned something new yesterday........ya can see the whole par by pressing F2 or something....and I sorted my par list by pushing something else!!! Instructions were Right there at the bottom of my par....amazing what happens when you read all this good info the gurus at Stone Soup built into Fractint.... Thank you all for a fun time on the list Angela p.s. Anyone interested in another Fractal Chat this weekend?? Email me direct wizzle@beachnet.com with suggested day and time. We had a wonderful turn out and lots of fun last time!!!! Bring those questions and "hot off the press pars" Mark Christenson wrote: > > comment { commentary and pars by Mark "Bud" Christenson 5/14/98 > Okay, time to be socially responsible. > > Given the volume of traffic on this list and the limited spare > time in our lives, I'm sure most of us have to arbitrarily limit > what we cut, paste, and review. I am as guilty as anyone, > and would like aknowledge some nice stuff I missed the first > time around. I just got done reviewing the April '98 par > collection, something that would have not been possible > without Les St. Claire's efforts (thanks, Les!). > > Here, in no particular order, are some of my "new" faves, > and what they remind me of (as necessary): Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) z^z-c Newton Formula Date: 14 May 1998 19:25:53 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula applies my Atan rendering method to the inverted Julia sets of Newton's solution of z^z-c=0. All the pars use the same colormap - other colormaps would be appreciated. Paul Carlson } frm:Inv_Newtzz_Jul {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; Parameters: ; p1 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p2) = maximum value of abs(real(w)) ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in each color range ; prev_w = 1 / pixel c = p1 z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0 max_real = real(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) index_factor = 2 * colors_in_range / pi : k = prev_w^prev_w w = prev_w - (k - c) / (k * (1 + log(prev_w))) ; IF (abs(real(w)) > max_real) delta_i = imag(w) - imag(prev_w) delta_r = real(w) - real(prev_w) angle = abs(atan(delta_i / delta_r)) bailout = 1 z = index_factor * angle + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF prev_w = w range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| > 1.0e-10 } inwtzzj1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=invntzzj.frm formulaname=inv_newtzz_jul passes=t corners=-2.60214453/-2.50595359/0.064777372/-0.063477212/-2.5\ 0595359/-0.063477212 params=11/0/8/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>`G0zzz<123>VVV000<2>000kkk } inwtzzj2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=invntzzj.frm formulaname=inv_newtzz_jul passes=t corners=-2.1386136/-1.3132267/0.5532309/-0.5472849/-1.3132267\ /-0.5472849 params=10/0/8/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>`G0zzz<123>VVV000<2>000kkk } inwtzzj3 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=invntzzj.frm formulaname=inv_newtzz_jul passes=t corners=-2.3503564/-1.5247369/0.5507099/-0.5501161/-1.5247369\ /-0.5501161 params=7/0/8/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>`G0zzz<123>VVV000<2>000kkk } inwtzzj4 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=invntzzj.frm formulaname=inv_newtzz_jul passes=t corners=-1.60809845/-1.57004816/0.0253641796/-0.0253695422/-1\ .57004816/-0.0253695422 params=2.5/0/4/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>`G0zzz<123>VVV000<2>000kkk } inwtzzj5 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=invntzzj.frm formulaname=inv_newtzz_jul passes=t corners=-1.60551039/-1.57867343/0.0179175918/-0.0178650215/-1\ .57867343/-0.0178650215 params=2.5/0/4/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>`G0zzz<123>VVV000<2>000kkk } inwtzzj6 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=invntzzj.frm formulaname=inv_newtzz_jul passes=t corners=-7.063387/-2.35074/3.815903/-3.786541/-2.35074/-3.786\ 541 params=2/0/8/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>`G0zzz<123>VVV000<2>000kkk } inwtzzj7 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=invntzzj.frm formulaname=inv_newtzz_jul passes=t corners=-5.074798/0.7403118/4.690468/-4.690468/0.7403118/-4.6\ 90468 params=1.2/0/8/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>`G0zzz<123>VVV000<2>000kkk } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Heavens Gate par Date: 14 May 1998 17:58:14 -0700 Sylvie Gallet wrote: > > >> hgate { ; Heaven's Gate; from DMJ-Mand-PNT-And-I > >> ; Colormap is Gallet05 > > Nice image, but the colormap is not Gallet05! Here it is with Gallet05 > (I also changed maxiter): > Sylvie.... On what basis should one experiment with maxiter? I'm unfamiliar with how that affects an image. Angela Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Double Pentagram Spiral Date: 14 May 1998 18:37:42 -0700 Fantastico image!!!!!!!! I just couldn't help myself and had to recolor it too... wiz_pentagram { ; "Double Pentagram" (c) Joe Pearson May 06, 1998 ; recolored using d-silv2.map ; time on 486-75 640x480 reset=1960 type=julia center-mag=+0.00000000000000000/+0.00000000000000000/1523.981/1/65 params=-0.7612078329687501/0.08479657003125 float=y maxiter=2000 logmap=518 colors=eac<16>H8GB60<3>000<5>336000437<21>JGTKHUKHT<8>ECKDBICAHBAGB9FA8E\ <12>111000000000<3>00010330650A<25>foxhrzgqy<25>72C50A305000<2>000000123\ <18>SpwUszTqw<16>234000000<4>000000211<3>B56A0A<34>xxuzzwyyv<12>fbd } And them zoooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmm!!!!!! wiz_pentzoom { ; Angela Wilczynski 5/14/98 ; fascinating double spiral ; reset=1960 type=julia center-mag=+0.00066025715858803/-0.00058238436604794/21404.23/1/24.999 params=-0.7612078329687501/0.08479657003125 float=y maxiter=2000 logmap=518 colors=000gd`<2>mm_<30>C68A47925802<2>D14E15F26G26I27<13>Z4H`4Ha4Ic5Ja5I\ <10>C15<7>C7BC8CA7A<4>000121<13>GW_IZbJ_cJ`dJaeKcg<20>AEJ<12>Hmb<23>5994\ 77466355<4>000000100<19>B0EC0FC0GD1HE2IF3K<22>mUy<18>PBbOAaPCa<8>ea` } I've never seen a double spiral quite like that...thanks Joe. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Another newbie Date: 14 May 1998 21:06:07 -0500 (CDT) You wrote: > > >as a well-educated new list member I would like to intruduce myself to >you. My name is Oliver Klimek and I am 30 years old. I have studied >physics which allows me to cope with the math side of fractalogy. But as I >am more inclined to the experimental side of science, I have to admit that >rotating quaternions in Hilbert space is not one of my favorite pastimes. >So when it comes to hardcore discussions about Herman rings etc. don't >expect me to participate. > >My interest in fractals is about as old as my interest in computers. It >all started when the first mandelbrot programs popped up in the computer >mags in the 80s. I still remeber typing the BASIC code in my little Atari >800 (it was better than the C64 , but nobody wanted to know) and waiting >for half an hour for the basic madelbrot (no pun intended) to render on >320x200. Well, those were the days... > >I know Fractint since I had "discovered" the internet in 1990. I have >never used it extensively until lately because I had to delete it from my >machine a couple of times out of disk space problems (shame on me, I know, >but 120 MB is not very much). Anyway, now with a couple of gigs to spare I >decided to reiterate my efforts in fractal design (pun intended). > >My primary interest in fractals is not to make "artsy" pictures, but >rather to explore the uncharted quadrants of Fractalonia, to boldly zoom >where no-one has zoomed before and to find interesting things there. It is >sort of like a Fractal Trek approach. I suspect it is my scientific spirit >that forces me to do so. You might call me an >inside=0/outside=iter/decomp=0 purist. This does not mean that I don't >like all these pictures with nifty coloring effects. I love to look at >them, but somehow I think I should do something different. It is true that >with some "special effects" you can make an otherwise boring image look >interesting. But I prefer to go for those that are interesting whitout >having to polish them. There is so much to see out there that there's no >time to waste:) To explain what I mean, here are two example pars using >built-in formulas and colormaps. I didn't bother tweaking the colormaps >because they look just fine. > >------ snip -------- > >Hallelujah { (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII > reset=1960 type=mandel4 > center-mag=-1.25572013634630100/+0.00000000088587647/9.331946e+011/1/-42\ > .495/-0.006 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=2000 bailout=8 inside=0 > logmap=183 > colors=000FFF<29>x11z00z10<29>zx0zz0zz1<29>zzxzzzzzz<61>zV1zU0zU0zT0<28>\ > z10z00z00y00<30>c00b11a11`22_22<25>FFF > } > >SpiralOfDoomstiny { (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII > > reset=1960 type=barnsleyj1 center-mag=0.519156/-0.0375416/2.976768 > params=1.041092677582345/-0.2267429885282054 float=y maxiter=1500 > bailout=8 inside=0 logmap=27 > colors=000000<29>00k00m01m<29>0ky0mz1mz<30>zzz<46>2zz0zz0yz<45>02z00z00y \ > <59>002000000 > } > >------- snap ------- > >keep on fraccin' > >Oliver Klimek > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Another newbie Date: 14 May 1998 19:43:40 -0700 Hiya Oliver Anyone who had an Atari (I did too) and provides pars based on the Barnsley set MUST be an ok guy. Oliver Klimek wrote: <> > My interest in fractals is about as old as my interest in computers. It > all started when the first mandelbrot programs popped up in the computer > mags in the 80s. I still remeber typing the BASIC code in my little Atari > 800 (it was better than the C64 , but nobody wanted to know) and waiting > for half an hour for the basic madelbrot (no pun intended) to render on > 320x200. Well, those were the days... Yeah....<<>.....when the move from a tape drive to a floppy peripheral was a big deal > My primary interest in fractals is not to make "artsy" pictures, but > rather to explore the uncharted quadrants of Fractalonia, to boldly zoom > where no-one has zoomed before and to find interesting things there. It is > sort of like a Fractal Trek approach. I suspect it is my scientific spirit > that forces me to do so. You might call me an > inside=0/outside=iter/decomp=0 purist. This does not mean that I don't > like all these pictures with nifty coloring effects. I love to look at > them, but somehow I think I should do something different. It is true that > with some "special effects" you can make an otherwise boring image look > interesting. But I prefer to go for those that are interesting whitout > having to polish them. There is so much to see out there that there's no > time to waste:) To explain what I mean, here are two example pars using > built-in formulas and colormaps. I didn't bother tweaking the colormaps > because they look just fine. Right right right.....soooooooo.....the wizzle deigns to color where even Oliver dares not tred (wizzle to bridge......collision color ahead) wiz_doom { ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; re-color where no one dared to go reset=1960 type=barnsleyj1 center-mag=0.519156/-0.0375416/2.976768 params=1.041092677582345/-0.2267429885282054 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 logmap=27 colors=000559<3>77988A779<5>112000001<12>16A27B26A<4>315403503<21>L1FM1G\ N1HO2IO2J<14>w12z00z20<23>zz0<21>z30z00x01<13>R1HO2JN2I<14>000<16>C09D09\ E0AF0BF0BG0C<5>L1FM1GN1HO2IO2J<28>21w<15>000<4>446009<12>559 } <> Angela Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Another newbie (and oops!) Date: 14 May 1998 21:31:14 -0500 (CDT) back to the list. My mind wandered and I clicked on the wrong button. Anyhow... Hi Oliver, Welcome to the list! Very nice images! Especially SpiralOfDoomstiny. I did have to insert a semi-colon after the opening curly bracket to get them to run. >You might call me an >inside=0/outside=iter/decomp=0 purist. This does not mean that I don't >like all these pictures with nifty coloring effects. I love to look at >them, but somehow I think I should do something different. It is true that >with some "special effects" you can make an otherwise boring image look >interesting. But I prefer to go for those that are interesting whitout >having to polish them. I'm sure you don't mean that those formulas which use orbit traps or bailout criteria more complex than a circle are less mathematically pure or that the resulting image is less of a fractal than the escape time level set algorithm. One reason I like to experiment with orbit traps is that the resulting image contains considerably more information about the dynamics of the iteration than the escape time algorithm. But I would have to agree that, without studying the formulas involved, it would appear that orbit trap formulas are just a form of special effects. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Another newbie(and oops! - again) Date: 14 May 1998 22:06:24 -0500 (CDT) Nothing seems to be going right tonight. The last message I posted on this thread somehow dropped the first line (at least my server did) which was: I apologize to the list for accidenally resending Oliver's posting >back to the list. My mind wandered and I clicked on the wrong button. >Anyhow... [remainder snipped] Guess I'll go to bed and hope things go better tomorrow. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) question about time Date: 14 May 1998 21:37:55 -0500 (CDT) Somebody recently suggested that I include the computation time in the pars I send to the list. This seems like a good idea but, being relatively new to Fractint, I don't how to do this. Also, will it work if the image is saved unfinished and reloaded? Help, someone? TIA, Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) question about time Date: 15 May 1998 00:34:09 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 14 May 1998, Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote: > Somebody recently suggested that I include the computation time in > the pars I send to the list. This seems like a good idea but, being > relatively new to Fractint, I don't how to do this. You can press the TAB key to display an info screen, one of the things on this screen is the total calculation time so far. This works for saved images too. --Cliff http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ civil rights are not special rights Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) question about time Date: 15 May 1998 00:50:19 -0400 There is also an option (for sstools.ini or the command line) called = 'comment' I believe that puts the time in for you. Look in fractint.doc = :) Pete // -----Original Message----- // From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com // [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of = cjc26@cornell.edu // Sent: Friday, May 15, 1998 12:34 AM // To: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Subject: Re: (fractint) question about time // =20 // =20 // On Thu, 14 May 1998, Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote: // =20 // > Somebody recently suggested that I include the computation time in // > the pars I send to the list. This seems like a good idea but, = being // > relatively new to Fractint, I don't how to do this. // =20 // You can press the TAB key to display an info screen, one of the=20 // things on=20 // this screen is the total calculation time so far. This works for = saved=20 // images too. // =20 // --Cliff // http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ // =20 // civil rights are not special rights // =20 // -------------------------------------------------------------- // Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List // Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" // Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net // Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" // =20 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: (fractint) Chby1 - Chby15 formula sets Date: 15 May 1998 18:06:48 +1200 I've been tinkering off and on with Chebyshev-type polynomials and various representations. The sets now contain a total of 1800 formulas which are for the most part "simple yet effective" - I'm not a maestro like Paul Carlson! - but elaborate treatments would make for excessively large sets. (Can we have formula inclusion? huh, huh?) With gratefully acknowledged help from Gedeon Peteri I've knocked them into a state worth beta-testing. I don't want to simply post them here because (a) there's nearly two thousand of the suckers, and (b) there's likely to still be a number of bugs of varying types in the formulae. I expect this collection to grow in the future, both in the number of formulas and the number of treatments. If you want to try out the set, email me and I'll send a zipped copy of the formulae and example pars. Below are those early test versions which I have already posted to this list - one of which was from my "Colouring books rot the mind" request, so I have taken the liberty of including the colourings that were posted. Morgan Worshipful { ; Something to go up behind the altar reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=chby9.frm formulaname=ca03 function=abs passes=b center-mag=0.0420974/-0.0420974/0.8313408/1/-45 params=2/-0.5/1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 outside=atan colors=000430<4>000000100<76>yV0zW0zW0zX0<29>zz0<15>zzz<15>zz0<30>zX0zW0\ zW0yW0<70>530 } sg-colors1 { ; For Morgan Owens's Working3 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Apr 16, 1998 ; colors=000ud0<13>SF7LF7E07707018011023035<21>FczIcz<11>zzz<5>Z9pV9k<2>Q9\ XP9RN9ML8GPBG<3>gRH<6>zz2wy5<2>rwCpwFmvG<15>2eZ<3>eoC<7>ww4zy2zy3<15>zuQ\ <4>Ywu<18>2_y0Yz0Ro<3>KFG<5>NY9<7>aI9<6>OC6<4>HMIGOKFQL<8>2hV0kX1jV<6>CY\ HEWFFWEGVEHUE<5>622<12>_I8aJ9cK9eLAfNAhQB<7>xmFzpGznE<4>u`1TJ1000 } sg-colors3 { ; For Morgan Owens's Working3 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Apr 16, 1998 ; colors=00A<12>002011023035<21>FczIcz<11>zzz<5>Z9pV9k<2>Q9XP9RN9ML8GPBG<3\ >gRH<6>zz2wy5<2>rwCpwFmvG<15>2eZ<3>eoC<7>ww4zy2zy3<15>zuQ<4>Ywu<17>4`y<7\ >KIF<4>NY9<7>aI9<6>OC6<4>HMIGOKFQL<8>2hV0kX1jV<6>CYHEWFFWEGVEHUE<5>622<1\ 2>_I8aJ9cK9eLAfNAhQB<7>xmFzpGzp8zo0<2>zh0ze1zb1z_2z_2<4>zO4 } bj-working3 { ; Colors for Owens's Working3 t=00:04:15.62 ; Brian_E_Jones@compuserve.com ; on a P233-MMX at 1600x1200 colors=00076G59G3CG0FF<9>0oo<7>mm0<6>zyn<6>mm0<6>b60`00Y00<8>70000000007\ 0<12>0oo<7>`Fz<7>U00<8>zz0<8>7Mw<7>0zz<7>0D70702A4<12>`oz<3>Rak000<13>80\ 0900B00<10>Z00<6>mm0<5>zyn<6>mm0<6>0Z0<8>070000007<11>7Px<7>mm0<5>zyn<4>\ oo8mm0ki6<6>YJpWFwUDr<7>93G } Worklla3 { ; Fractal by Morgan Owens; colormap by Linda Allison ; Something in pastels, maybe? reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.637998/-0.447214/1.572327 params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=www<9>www<15>500<11>T01V02W12X22<7>hB1jD0kE1<10>vTDxVFwTE<5>lG4jD\ 2hC2<5>X31V10U10<95>301301412<76>vvv } Worklla4 { ; Fractal by Morgan Owens; colormap by Linda Allison ; Something in pastels, maybe? reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.637998/-0.447214/1.572327 params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=45Fkzz<12>fzzfzzdxy<14>0Lb<14>056033244<18>ddd<12>01C<10>mmr<9>01\ C<10>mmr<7>KKT45F<13>45F<9>ddd<12>033<14>0J_0Lb2Nc<14>fzz<29>ozzozzpzzqz\ z<5>xzzzzzyzz<4>rzzpzzpzz<16>kzz } Working3_wiz1 { ; wizzle 4/16/98 ; galaxy1.map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=apr98.par formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.637998/-0.447214/1.572327 params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=A0agFM<4>K0A<4>D0UB0Y80e<3>20u00z01v<5>69V7AQ6BO<3>2ID0KA0MC<14>0\ zm<15>0AK<5>4AE5AE7AD<3>DAAFA9HCA<18>zza<10>00A<12>D67F76I76<14>z00<10>K\ 0A<6>N0S<4>00z<13>W0_Y0YY0Y<14>U3UU3UT3TS3S<14>00A<13>J8KL9LN8N<12>k1km0\ mn2l<10>zRV<2>lIO } Working3_wiz2 { ; wizzle 4/16/98 ; julia7.map which is based on a Paul Carlson map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=apr98.par formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.637998/-0.447214/1.572327 params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=000ZFA<2>K0U<13>wrz<15>0II<13>0zz<11>0GG0CC07J11Q<14>mmz<13>K0K<1\ 5>rhz<11>K0KO08<15>zcm<11>W9AU67R34O00Q11<14>zzm<12>O00000<13>000c40<14>\ xjizmmyjj<8>iFCgC8gE8<3>fM8eO9gRC<10>xwizzmywj<10>cK4 } Myattempt2colour3 { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=chby9.frm formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.637998/-0.447214/1.572327 params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=000321652000<15>ypM<4>yk6xj2vk3tl4rm6<4>00z<3>JcZzmSTxLRyMOzO<52>\ 121000000<158>000 } frm:Ca03{; = (2(a+2)xCa(2)-(2a+1)Ca(1))/3 {; Prerelease version 20/01/1998 a=p1 b=2*a*(a+1) c=2*(a+2)/3 t=real(p2),bailout=4,z=pixel: x=real(z),y=imag(z) xx=sqr(x),yy=sqr(y) Tx=fn1(b*x*(c*xx-1)) Ty=fn1(b*y*(c*yy-1)) x=x-t*Ty,y=y+t*Tx z=x+flip(y) |z|<=bailout} frm:Uc03{; = 2z(2z-1)U02-U01 ;Prerelease 16/04/1998 t=p1,bailout=4,z=pixel: x=real(z),y=imag(z) ax=4*x-2,ay=4*y-2 Tx=fn1(ax*(ax*ax-2)) Ty=fn1(ay*(ay*ay-2)) x=x-t*Ty,y=y+t*Tx z=x+flip(y) |z|<=bailout} Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) question about time Date: 15 May 1998 08:57:21 +0200 I was the person who asked Paul for this. I just assumed that someone with such a prolific formula output couldn't be a newcomer! Paul, add (or change) a line in your sstools.ini like this: comment=______________(c)_Joe_Pearson_$date$_t=$calctime$/time_on_486-75 _640x480 The $calctime$ inserts the current calc. time into your par. If you have only partially calculated an image it puts in the calculation time so far which could be misleading. Reloading from saved images works well (if calculation was incomplete the calctime starts to increase). Joe > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractals and Poetry Date: 15 May 1998 09:15:15 +0200 >What would be the best way to imbed a poem in a fractal? The one true fractint way :-) is to write a formula that overlays the text on the fractal image. This must be right because there's an example in the fract19.6 distribution of just this - see formula "fractint" by Sylvie Gallet in fract196.frm; there are some others in my orgform collection. But even a few letters must be hard work! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) Winfract and Partobat? Date: 15 May 1998 09:19:44 +0200 >I just downloaded Winfract, and while it clearly isn't as great as Fractint >dos(I would adore color cycling, but I take what I can get), I've removed winfract from my hard disk so I can't confirm this, but try just pressing the space bar when you've generated a fractal. My 3-year old daughter was upset that colour cycling is not as easy in the DOS version! > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) Another newbie Date: 15 May 1998 10:24:47 +0200 Oliver, call yourself a purist? You have used a colour map with more than one hue in it. :-) A true "structure"-only fractal should be coloured with one hue, linearly ranging from black to white. Even the "blues.map" includes both blue and cyan. Example as used in my recently-posted Double Pentagram attached below. For best results, I set inside=255 with these. Seriously now! I like the image. I also stick to the packaged fractal types and maps 75% of the time, and the mandel/julia types with inside=solid/outside=iter/decomp=0 - and you didn't mention logmap=yes, and no rotation or stretching - 50% of the time. Not because I think the other types and renderings are a waste of time but because my family and my employer think they're ALL a waste of time. Poor me ... CentreBlue { ; Joe Pearson; pure graduated blue colors=000<118>00y00z00z00z<128>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz } CentreBlueMore { ; Joe Pearson; pure graduated blue colors=000004<188>00y00z11z22z<58>xxzzzzzzzzzz } CentreBlueLess { ; Joe Pearson; pure graduated blue colors=000000<65>00y00z00z00z<184>zzz } > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: (fractint) Running in background under win95 Date: 15 May 1998 10:46:13 +0200 I was about to appeal for help, but I have found the following works. Yippee. As I type this email my PC is calculating TWO pars from this list in separate DOS sessions. Find your fractint.exe in explorer, go into properties (Alt-Enter); on the Misc tab set "Always suspend" to no, and "Idle sensitivity" to lowest. You can also do this on the fly, most easily by right-clicking the FRACTINT icon on the windows taskbar and selecting properties. 1. save the partially-calculated image in your chosen resolution & colour depth 2. set askvideo=yes 3. restore the image and select a disk-video mode with the *same* resolution and colour depth Calculation resumes but graphics are not displayed. 4. Swap to another window. Do some work, post to the list, whatever. 5. Swap back when impatient or when it warbles at you. 6. Save (important!) without changing the disk-video mode 7. Restore the file just saved, selecting the real video mode you started in 8. Save again 9. Optional: delete all the interim files that were created! Exercise for the reader: get partobat to automate all this. Regards, Joe Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) Another newbie Date: 15 May 1998 10:54:57 +0200 >Right right right.....soooooooo.....the wizzle deigns to color where even >Oliver >dares not tred > >(wizzle to bridge......collision color ahead) > >wiz_doom { ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII > ; re-color where no one dared to go Somehow this suggests less Star Trek and more an vicious circle of reddish office-stationery items (like bulldog clips) spiralling down into a morass of dark green inter-office memos and company policy documents. Help! I want to get off! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) Newbie basic par Date: 15 May 1998 11:46:22 +0200 >I love the structure, Joe! Thanks! > >I got an error, and I *think* I fixed the par properly. The first comment line wrapped unintentionally. Sorry. A general problem, see any of the archives of this list! >The second one is >the same zoom with a colormap I made yesterday(Angela's advice has really >paid off. Compare this to the one I posted yesterday. Much better IMHO!). >Hope you don't mind. I think it brings out the detail more. Enjoy! I don't mind at all - it looks good. See my response to wizzle's offering Joe Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) Double Pentagram Spiral Date: 15 May 1998 11:53:45 +0200 >Fantastico image!!!!!!!! >I've never seen a double spiral quite like that...thanks Joe. Thanks. The image took me by surprise. I was randomly exploring near the 18-order bud in the seahorse valley (don't you just love the terminology) and found it. I tried exploring nearby, which gives similar but rotated/stretched images, and at similar points near other buds, but everything was much simpler in structure. > >I just couldn't help myself and had to recolor it too... Your colours are great: shiny, metallic. I will probably continue to use my plain maps for exploring and let other people do the colouring! Still calculating your zoom. I recommend zooming out and into this structure to see the entire pattern which makes up this Julia set's self-similarity. Joe > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractals and Poetry Date: 15 May 1998 12:43:28 +0100 >>What would be the best way to imbed a poem in a fractal? >The one true fractint way :-) is to write a formula that overlays the >text on the fractal image. Try this... poem_par { ; Fractal by Les, poem by someone else! t=0:10:13.45 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1998 by Les St Clair [Par date: May 15, 1998] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=poem.frm formulaname=poem function=sin/sqr/sinh passes=t center-mag=-0.526316/0/0.6666667 float=y maxiter=200 periodicity=0 colors=mobkjy<3>gZqeWoeVn<13>W8YV6WU6V<14>F0FE0ED0DC0CB1B<4>626255244333\ 222<2>414515717<2>B0DC0FC0H<3>G0PH0RH0SH0U<12>M0oN0qN0q<11>VAuVBvWBu<13>\ qLZsMXsNX<2>rQWrSVrTVrVUrWU<4>rcVrdVqfWqgX<6>qqjpslpsk<2>orgoqfmnhkkklob\ <12>SgdQfePed<5>L`_K_ZJYX<7>8JJ7IH6GF5FE4DD3CB2AA<3>366356245234235236<3\ >22D31F42H42J53M64P<14>Q3qS2sT2uU1vV1xX0z<13>RQzQSzQSz<13>aaqbbpddr<3>ll\ z } FRM:poem { ; created using FracText 1.0 à6 - by Jan Maarten van der Valk ; 100256.3721@compuserve.com ; 'periodicity=0' and 'passes=1' recommended x=real(scrnpix)/real(scrnmax), y=(imag(scrnmax)-imag(scrnpix))/real\ (scrnmax), z=x+flip(y) chrI1 = x>0.03&&x<0.0487 xCW=4*x chrW3 = yxCW-0.0959||(y>-xCW+1.26547&&y<-xCW+1.34257\ )&&y<0.62333||(y>-xCW+1.1188&&y<-xCW+1.1959)||(yxCW\ -0.24257) chra4 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.26194,-0.6072))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.26194|\ |(abs(cabs(z+(-0.27294,-0.6072))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.27294)&&y>0.\ 6072||((abs(cabs(z+(-0.26194,-0.5753))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.26194)\ ||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.27294,-0.5753))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.27294))||(x\ >0.26194&&x<0.27294&&(y<0.5687||(y>0.6138&&y<0.6325)||(y>0.5819&&y<\ 0.6006)))||(x>0.27954&&x<0.29824&&y<0.6072) chrn5 = x>0.30924&&x<0.32794&&y<0.6325||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.3397,-0.602\ 04))-0.02111)<0.00935&&y>0.60204)||(x>0.35145&&x<0.37015&&y<0.60204\ ) chrd6 = x>0.44303&&x<0.46173||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.4224,-0.59125))-0.031\ 9)<0.00935&&x<0.44303) chre7 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.51398,-0.59125))-0.0319)<0.00935&&(x<0.51398\ ||y>0.58813||y<0.57411)||(y>0.58813&&y<0.60683&&x>0.48208&&x<0.5458\ 8) chrr8 = x>0.56623&&x<0.58493&&y<0.6325||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.59669,-0.60\ 204))-0.02111)<0.00935&&y>0.60204) chre9 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.67939,-0.59125))-0.0319)<0.00935&&(x<0.67939\ ||y>0.58813||y<0.57411)||(y>0.58813&&y<0.60683&&x>0.64749&&x<0.7112\ 9) chrd10 = x>0.79352&&x<0.81222||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.77289,-0.59125))-0.0\ 319)<0.00935&&x<0.79352) test1 = chrI1||chrW3||chra4||chrn5||chrd6||chre7||chrr8||chre9||chr\ d10&&y>0.55&&y<0.66 chrI11 = x>0.04&&x<0.0587 chrW13 = yxCW-0.1484||(y>-xCW+1.29297&&y<-xCW+1.3700\ 7)&&y<0.61083||(y>-xCW+1.1463&&y<-xCW+1.2234)||(yxC\ W-0.29507) chra14 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.27194,-0.5947))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.27194\ ||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.28294,-0.5947))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.28294)&&y>0\ .5947||((abs(cabs(z+(-0.27194,-0.5628))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.27194\ )||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.28294,-0.5628))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.28294))||(\ x>0.27194&&x<0.28294&&(y<0.5562||(y>0.6013&&y<0.62)||(y>0.5694&&y<0\ .5881)))||(x>0.28954&&x<0.30824&&y<0.5947) chrn15 = x>0.31924&&x<0.33794&&y<0.62||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.3497,-0.5895\ 4))-0.02111)<0.00935&&y>0.58954)||(x>0.36145&&x<0.38015&&y<0.58954) chrd16 = x>0.45303&&x<0.47173||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.4324,-0.57875))-0.03\ 19)<0.00935&&x<0.45303) chre17 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.52398,-0.57875))-0.0319)<0.00935&&(x<0.5239\ 8||y>0.57563||y<0.56161)||(y>0.57563&&y<0.59433&&x>0.49208&&x<0.555\ 88) chrr18 = x>0.57623&&x<0.59493&&y<0.62||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.60669,-0.589\ 54))-0.02111)<0.00935&&y>0.58954) chre19 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.68939,-0.57875))-0.0319)<0.00935&&(x<0.6893\ 9||y>0.57563||y<0.56161)||(y>0.57563&&y<0.59433&&x>0.65749&&x<0.721\ 29) chrd20 = x>0.80352&&x<0.82222||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.78289,-0.57875))-0.0\ 319)<0.00935&&x<0.80352) test2 = chrI11||chrW13||chra14||chrn15||chrd16||chre17||chrr18||chr\ e19||chrd20&&y>0.5375&&y<0.6475 chrL21 = x<0.0487||y<0.3687&&x>0.03&&x<0.0927 chro22 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.14495,-0.39125))-0.0319)<0.00935 chrn23 = x>0.1972&&x<0.2159&&y<0.4325||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.22766,-0.402\ 04))-0.02111)<0.00935&&y>0.40204)||(x>0.23941&&x<0.25811&&y<0.40204\ ) chre24 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.31036,-0.39125))-0.0319)<0.00935&&(x<0.3103\ 6||y>0.38813||y<0.37411)||(y>0.38813&&y<0.40683&&x>0.27846&&x<0.342\ 26) chrl25 = x<0.38131&&x>0.36261 xy=2.5*x chry26 = yxy-0.76363||(y>-xy+1.41328&&y<-xy+1.46363)\ &&y>xy-0.76363&&y<0.4325&&y>0.295 test3 = chrL21||chro22||chrn23||chre24||chrl25&&y>0.35||chry26&&y<0\ .46 chrL27 = x<0.0587||y<0.3562&&x>0.04&&x<0.1027 chro28 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.15495,-0.37875))-0.0319)<0.00935 chrn29 = x>0.2072&&x<0.2259&&y<0.42||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.23766,-0.38954\ ))-0.02111)<0.00935&&y>0.38954)||(x>0.24941&&x<0.26811&&y<0.38954) chre30 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.32036,-0.37875))-0.0319)<0.00935&&(x<0.3203\ 6||y>0.37563||y<0.36161)||(y>0.37563&&y<0.39433&&x>0.28846&&x<0.352\ 26) chrl31 = x<0.39131&&x>0.37261 chry32 = yxy-0.80113||(y>-xy+1.42578&&y<-xy+1.47613)\ &&y>xy-0.80113&&y<0.42&&y>0.2825 test4 = chrL27||chro28||chrn29||chre30||chrl31&&y>0.3375||chry32&&y\ <0.4475 chra33 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.0553,-0.2072))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.0553||\ (abs(cabs(z+(-0.0663,-0.2072))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.0663)&&y>0.207\ 2||((abs(cabs(z+(-0.0553,-0.1753))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.0553)||(ab\ s(cabs(z+(-0.0663,-0.1753))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.0663))||(x>0.0553\ &&x<0.0663&&(y<0.1687||(y>0.2138&&y<0.2325)||(y>0.1819&&y<0.2006)))\ ||(x>0.0729&&x<0.0916&&y<0.2072) chrs34 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.1279,-0.2072))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.1279||\ (abs(cabs(z+(-0.1389,-0.2072))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.1389)&&(x<0.12\ 79||y>0.2072)||((abs(cabs(z+(-0.1279,-0.1753))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<\ 0.1279)||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.1389,-0.1753))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.1389)\ &&(x>0.1389||y<0.1753))||(x>0.1279&&x<0.1389&&(y<0.1687||(y>0.2138&\ &y<0.2325)||(y>0.1819&&y<0.2006))) chra36 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.2555,-0.2072))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.2555||\ (abs(cabs(z+(-0.2665,-0.2072))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.2665)&&y>0.207\ 2||((abs(cabs(z+(-0.2555,-0.1753))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.2555)||(ab\ s(cabs(z+(-0.2665,-0.1753))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.2665))||(x>0.2555\ &&x<0.2665&&(y<0.1687||(y>0.2138&&y<0.2325)||(y>0.1819&&y<0.2006)))\ ||(x>0.2731&&x<0.2918&&y<0.2072) xCC=1*x chrC38 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.4128,-0.205))-0.04565)<0.00935&&(x<0.4128||\ y>xCC-0.2078||y<-xCC+0.6178) chrl39 = x<0.48139&&x>0.46269 chro40 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.53364,-0.19125))-0.0319)<0.00935 chru41 = x>0.58589&&x<0.60459&&y>0.18046&&y<0.2325||(abs(cabs(z+(-0\ .61635,-0.18046))-0.02111)<0.00935&&y<0.18046)||(x>0.6281&&x<0.6468\ &&y<0.2325) chrd42 = x>0.71968&&x<0.73838||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.69905,-0.19125))-0.0\ 319)<0.00935&&x<0.71968) chrDT43 = y<0.1687&&x>0.74938&&x<0.76808 chrDT44 = y<0.1687&&x>0.77908&&x<0.79778 chrDT45 = y<0.1687&&x>0.80878&&x<0.82748 test5 = chra33||chrs34||chra36||chrC38||chrl39||chro40||chru41||chr\ d42||chrDT43||chrDT44||chrDT45&&y>0.15&&y<0.26 chra46 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.0653,-0.1947))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.0653||\ (abs(cabs(z+(-0.0763,-0.1947))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.0763)&&y>0.194\ 7||((abs(cabs(z+(-0.0653,-0.1628))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.0653)||(ab\ s(cabs(z+(-0.0763,-0.1628))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.0763))||(x>0.0653\ &&x<0.0763&&(y<0.1562||(y>0.2013&&y<0.22)||(y>0.1694&&y<0.1881)))||\ (x>0.0829&&x<0.1016&&y<0.1947) chrs47 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.1379,-0.1947))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.1379||\ (abs(cabs(z+(-0.1489,-0.1947))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.1489)&&(x<0.13\ 79||y>0.1947)||((abs(cabs(z+(-0.1379,-0.1628))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<\ 0.1379)||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.1489,-0.1628))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.1489)\ &&(x>0.1489||y<0.1628))||(x>0.1379&&x<0.1489&&(y<0.1562||(y>0.2013&\ &y<0.22)||(y>0.1694&&y<0.1881))) chra49 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.2655,-0.1947))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.2655||\ (abs(cabs(z+(-0.2765,-0.1947))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.2765)&&y>0.194\ 7||((abs(cabs(z+(-0.2655,-0.1628))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x<0.2655)||(ab\ s(cabs(z+(-0.2765,-0.1628))-0.01595)<0.00935&&x>0.2765))||(x>0.2655\ &&x<0.2765&&(y<0.1562||(y>0.2013&&y<0.22)||(y>0.1694&&y<0.1881)))||\ (x>0.2831&&x<0.3018&&y<0.1947) chrC51 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.4228,-0.1925))-0.04565)<0.00935&&(x<0.4228|\ |y>xCC-0.2303||y<-xCC+0.6153) chrl52 = x<0.49139&&x>0.47269 chro53 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.54364,-0.17875))-0.0319)<0.00935 chru54 = x>0.59589&&x<0.61459&&y>0.16796&&y<0.22||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.6\ 2635,-0.16796))-0.02111)<0.00935&&y<0.16796)||(x>0.6381&&x<0.6568&&\ y<0.22) chrd55 = x>0.72968&&x<0.74838||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.70905,-0.17875))-0.0\ 319)<0.00935&&x<0.72968) chrDT56 = y<0.1562&&x>0.75938&&x<0.77808 chrDT57 = y<0.1562&&x>0.78908&&x<0.80778 chrDT58 = y<0.1562&&x>0.81878&&x<0.83748 test6 = chra46||chrs47||chra49||chrC51||chrl52||chro53||chru54||chr\ d55||chrDT56||chrDT57||chrDT58&&y>0.1375&&y<0.2475 test=test2||test4||test6 test0=test1||test3||test5 f1=sin(.5*pixel) f2=1/(32*pixel) pixel=(test==0)*f2+test*f1 z=1+(0,-0.65)/fn3(pixel+(0,0.75)): z2=z*z, z4=z2*z2, n=z4*z2-1, z=z-n/(6*z4*z) |n|>=.0001&&test0==0 } - Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hailman@prepnet.ucc.on.ca (Robert Hailman) Subject: RE RE: (fractint) Another newbie Date: 15 May 1998 09:14:55 -0400 > jpearson@dd-exchange.didata.co.za wrote: > A true "structure"-only fractal should be > coloured with one hue, linearly ranging from black to white. I haven't checked out your pars yet, but I made a MAP file that just contains lines going from RGB 0,0,0 to RGB 0,0,255. Renders nicely in 3d mode... almost like the ocean floor! I'm making one that is RGB 0,0,0-0,255,0 and another that is RGB 0,0,0-255,0,0. I'll post them all ASAP. Robert Hailman Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry Bluestein Subject: Re: (fractint) question about time Date: 15 May 1998 10:17:35 -0400 Remember, the Comp Time alone won't be of absolute use use unless the type of CPU is also included in the report. My 386 and my Pentium Pro 200 have wildly differing times for the same Par! Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote: > Somebody recently suggested that I include the computation time in > the pars I send to the list. This seems like a good idea but, being > relatively new to Fractint, I don't how to do this. > > Also, will it work if the image is saved unfinished and reloaded? > > Help, someone? > > TIA, > Paul Carlson -- Barry Bluestein - President The Lapis Group - Information Technology Consultants 11629 Deborah DR, Suite 1000, Potomac, MD 20854 301-299-0083 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) Fractals and Date: 15 May 1998 10:23:51 -0400 >>>What would be the best way to imbed a poem in a fractal? >>The one true fractint way :-) is to write a formula that overlays the >>text on the fractal image. >Try this... >poem_par { ; Fractal by Les, poem by someone else! = t=3D0:10:13.45 Nice par! For those who haven't tried, zoom in somewhere on the image an= d see what happens! Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) question about time Date: 15 May 1998 07:44:18 -0700 Thanks Joe.... I added that line to my sstools.ini too. One further question...I assume this comment is made on the first line and that additional comments should be entered into the 2nd and 3rd lines of the par....is this correct? Angela Joe Pearson wrote: > > I was the person who asked Paul for this. I just assumed that someone > with such a prolific formula output couldn't be a newcomer! > > Paul, add (or change) a line in your sstools.ini like this: > comment=______________(c)_Joe_Pearson_$date$_t=$calctime$/time_on_486-75 > _640x480 > > The $calctime$ inserts the current calc. time into your par. If you > have only partially calculated an image it puts in the calculation time > so far which could be misleading. Reloading from saved images works > well (if calculation was incomplete the calctime starts to increase). > > Joe > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: (fractint) All computers are not created equal Date: 15 May 1998 11:54:56 -0400 Welp...just goes to show you. I have the same settings, and windows has a nervous breakdown when I alt-tab from fractint. > I was about to appeal for help, but I have found the following works. > Yippee. As I type this email my PC is calculating TWO pars from this > list in separate DOS sessions. > > Find your fractint.exe in explorer, go into properties (Alt-Enter); on > the Misc tab set "Always suspend" to no, and "Idle sensitivity" to > lowest. You can also do this on the fly, most easily by right-clicking > the FRACTINT icon on the windows taskbar and selecting properties. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: Re RE Re: Re: Re: RE Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was fractint v20 and beyond Date: 15 May 1998 17:56:48 +0100 Peter Gavin wrote: >>>Ha!!! That's what I tell my friends what Win98 *really* is, Win95.3. (SP1 is 95.1, osr2 is 95.2, so 98==95.3, right? it's the *new* math) You're about the only other person I've heard put it that way. That's pretty funny, I think... :) Microsoft wouldn't want to be called 'behind', though... Their as up-to-date as anyone else! (at least their names are ) )<<< Well, after OSR 2 there was OSR 2.1 (win95.21 or win95.3). And I've heard, but never checked, the latest version is win95 OSR 2.5 (win95.22 or win95.5). :-) Christian PS. Never mind the mail subject. :-) Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: Re: (fractint) Another newbie Date: 15 May 1998 18:14:11 +0100 Angela aka wizzle kindly typed: > Anyone who had an Atari (I did too) and provides pars based on the > Barnsley set MUST be an ok guy. Before I got my PC I also had an Atari ST ;-) And here's another Barnsley, just for you ! ----- snippety-snap ----- LaserWave { ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; dedicated to wizzle, Queen of Colors reset=1960 type=barnsleyj1 center-mag=-0.246334/0.0430248/1.893939 params=1.059435750342696/-0.03644262581641931 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 logmap=27 colors=000BBc<38>J1LJ1LK0KL0K<33>x01z00z11<57>zyyzzzyzz<45>2zz0zz0yz<27>\ 0Pz<16>zzz<22>EEp } ----- snappety-snip ----- ... >> built-in formulas and colormaps. I didn't bother tweaking the colormaps >> because they look just fine. > Right right right.....soooooooo.....the wizzle deigns to color where even Oliver > dares not tred > (wizzle to bridge......collision color ahead) > wiz_doom { ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII > ; re-color where no one dared to go > reset=1960 type=barnsleyj1 center-mag=0.519156/-0.0375416/2.976768 > params=1.041092677582345/-0.2267429885282054 float=y maxiter=1500 > bailout=8 inside=0 logmap=27 > >colors=000559<3>77988A779<5>112000001<12>16A27B26A<4>315403503<21>L1>FM1G\ > >N1HO2IO2J<14>w12z00z20<23>zz0<21>z30z00x01<13>R1HO2JN2I<14>000<16>C0>9D09\ > E0AF0BF0BG0C<5>L1FM1GN1HO2IO2J<28>21w<15>000<4>446009<12>559 > } This sure looks more doom-like. You might even call it "Spiral of Quake". But in fact, the title had no meaning at all. I just couldn't think of a better name then. Your map-magic has created an all new image, but I still prefer the original colors (standard blues.map) because they create a kind of 3D illusion which somehow got lost with your colors. Oliver Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: Re: (fractint) Another newbie Date: 15 May 1998 18:16:41 +0100 Paul Carlson replied to me: >>You might call me an >>inside=0/outside=iter/decomp=0 purist. This does not mean that I don't >>like all these pictures with nifty coloring effects. I love to look at >>them, but somehow I think I should do something different. It is true that >>with some "special effects" you can make an otherwise boring image look >>interesting. But I prefer to go for those that are interesting whitout >having to polish them. > I'm sure you don't mean that those formulas which use orbit traps > or bailout criteria more complex than a circle are less mathematically > pure or that the resulting image is less of a fractal than the escape > time level set algorithm. One reason I like to experiment with orbit > traps is that the resulting image contains considerably more information > about the dynamics of the iteration than the escape time algorithm. But > I would have to agree that, without studying the formulas involved, it > would appear that orbit trap formulas are just a form of special effects. I dont't mean bailout criteria and orbit traps in general. You have to find some way to end the iteration, be it |z|>4 or something like sin(z) Subject: Re: (fractint) Heavens Gate par Date: 15 May 1998 13:11:40 -0400 Angela, >> On what basis should one experiment with maxiter? I'm unfamiliar >> with how that affects an image. That was obvious: just look at the blue hole at the center of the spira= l in the original image. Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) gallet-6-08 formula Date: 15 May 1998 13:11:42 -0400 Hi Bill, >> Yes, I did send out one of the pars with a reference to a local map. >> I've repaired my fault below Thanks. >> but it brings up a question that has popped into my mind every now >> and then but has never embarrassed me up to this point: How do you >> *force* Fractint to put the color map into the par explicitly? Add recordcolors=3Dyes or recordcolors=3Dcomment to your sstools.ini (s= ee Fractint.doc page 113). Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Double Pentagram Spiral Date: 15 May 1998 13:11:39 -0400 >> I just couldn't help myself and had to recolor it too... Me too... sg_pentagram { ; "Double Pentagram" (c) Joe Pearson May 06, 1998 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, May 15, 1998 ; ; recolored using deep11.map reset=3D1960 type=3Djulia passes=3D1 center-mag=3D+0.00000000000000000/+0.00000000000000000/1523.981/1/65 params=3D-0.7612078329687501/0.08479657003125 float=3Dy maxiter=3D2000 logmap=3D518 colors=3D0A0<13>5eW<31>121000001<21>3KZ4L`5Na<7>CakDcmDdm<6>JkmKmmKlk<1= 3>6\ LG5JD6LE<14>JdMKfNLhM<12>wt1<12>DVF<9>BI9BH8BH8<4>9D6<2>MG7QH8UI9YJAaLB= e\ MCgODjQF<13>xnGypGzrF<6>xvqwwwuvw<14>FZh<11>A0A<9>uU0<13>zzcvycqwb } - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) question about time Date: 15 May 1998 19:37:28 +0200 >I added that line to my sstools.ini too. One further question...I assume >this >comment is made on the first line and that additional comments should be >entered >into the 2nd and 3rd lines of the par....is this correct? > >Angela > >> comment=______________(c)_Joe_Pearson_$date$_t=$calctime$/time_on_486-75 >> _640x480 The / divides lines - so the above puts "time on 486-75 640x480" on the second line. You can leave comments blank with multiple //, so you can type there. I think my setting is a bit long as the calctime always seems to wrap in emails - it *just* fits on the 'b' screen. But I want a description, my name, a date and the calc time on the first line!! Joe Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) All computers are not created equal Date: 15 May 1998 19:41:38 +0200 >Welp...just goes to show you. I have the same settings, and windows has a >nervous breakdown when I alt-tab from fractint. Even in disk-video? No graphic displayed? It could be any one of 150 Microsoft things. I'm going where no email can reach me for a week and no time now to think about it. There may be some other posts I haven't responded to. See you later! Joe > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: RE: (fractint) Winfract and Partobat? Date: 15 May 1998 13:41:12 -0400 At 09:19 AM 15/05/98 +0200, you wrote: >>I just downloaded Winfract, and while it clearly isn't as great as Fractint >>dos(I would adore color cycling, but I take what I can get), Winfract does allow colour cycling. However, it will not work if your windows video setting is set for more than 256 colours. Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art list threatened with extinction! Date: 15 May 1998 13:50:32 -0400 (EDT) I see that after June 15, 1998 Jon Noring will no longer be able to administer the Fractal-Art mailing list, and if no one volunteers to take over the task, the list will cease to exist after only one year of life. My prediction is that no one will step forward to assume the task and the list will die. Jon says that other things in his life will make it impossible for him to continue as list administrator, but I wonder if it is not just disappointment and futility that is causing him to throw in the towel. Day after day goes by when my FOTD and Jay's FOTN are the only posts. The Fractal-Art list started out quite active, however it was apparent from the start that the subscribers really wanted to talk about Fractint. When Tim started the Fractint list, the Fractal-Art subscribers migrated to the Fractint list and the Fractal_Art list basically dropped dead. I would take over the task of running the F.A. list if I had the time, which I do not. But if I assumed the position of administrator, I would re-write the charter and rename the list something like "Fractal Trek". The purpose of the new list would be to create a place where intrepid fractal explorers could join together into a group much like the crew of the good ship Enterprise, and share adventures. My enjoyment of fractals lies in the adventure, and in the excitement of discovering scenes that no one has seen before. I revel in the simple fun of going and seeing what lies beyond the next blow-up. If the Fractal-Art list dies, it will have served its purpose of showing that fractals are indeed art. When the list is gone, I will simply shift the FOTD to the Fractint list, and I assume Jay will do the same with his FOTN. And I don't know of anything in the Fractint list charter that prevents the art aspect of fractals from being discussed. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Re: Fractal-Art list threatened with extinction Date: 15 May 1998 14:45:43 -0500 Jim, - My prediction is that no one will step forward to assume - the task and the list will die. That would be a sad thing, indeed. Are you a pessimist, Jim? :-) - The Fractal-Art list started out quite active, however it - was apparent from the start that the subscribers really - wanted to talk about Fractint. I think that's because the FractInt userbase had long ago expanded beyond the CompuServe forum where it started; there were plenty of people looking for a public place where they could talk about FractInt. A mailing list is just about the most easily accessible discussion forum on the net. So when Fractal-Art appeared, obviously people talked about the most commonly-used fractal program. I think it's a good thing that Tim Wegner started the FractInt list; it helps direct application-specific material to a more suitable forum and keeps Fractal-Art focused more on other matters related to, well, fractal art. :) - When the list is gone, I will simply shift the FOTD to the Fractint - list, and I assume Jay will do the same with his FOTN. Sounds like you've already written the Fractal-Art list off... - And I don't know of anything in the Fractint list charter that - prevents the art aspect of fractals from being discussed. Nothing preventing it, but given the current volume on the FractInt list, and that most of it is PAR-swapping, I'd say discussions about the art side of fractals would be drowned out. I'm not saying I don't like what's on the FractInt list (if that were so, I wouldn't subscribe) but I think there are valid reasons to maintain two lists--especially since the art aspect applies no matter what software one uses, and I doubt explorers who primarily use software besides FractInt will subscribe to a list where the traffic is 95% FractInt-specific. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)Modification of Morgans Worshipful Date: 15 May 1998 14:54:30 EDT Here's a slight modification of a par by Morgan. { Hope you don't mind....couldn't resist} Also ...appologies to Earth,Wind, and Fire. This is pretty close to that album jacket I think. Steve ~~^~~^~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~ Worshipful-sk { ; Manship. I am,we are.(mod. by SK 5/22/98) ; Original Image and inspiration by: Morgan L. Owens reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=ca03 function=abs passes=b center-mag=0.0420974/-0.0420974/0.8313408/1/-44.999 params=1/-0.1/1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 outside=atan colors=000430<4>000000100<76>yV0zW0zW0zX0<29>zz0<15>zzz<15>zz0<30>zX0zW0\ zW0yW0<70>530 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Fractal Chat Date: 15 May 1998 17:51:21 -0700 Paul Derbyshire has requested that we chat at 5PM PDT or 8PM EDT Saturday evening (5/16/98). If that's OK with most, let's go with that. The usual suspects will assemble on the Undernet in #fractals. See you there!!! If you need help getting started with chatting, email me at wizzle@beachnet.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) question about time Date: 15 May 1998 21:25:05 -0500 Paul Carlson typed: > > Somebody recently suggested that I include the computation time in > the pars I send to the list. This seems like a good idea but, being > relatively new to Fractint, I don't how to do this. > > Also, will it work if the image is saved unfinished and reloaded? > The computation time is always available during or after creation of a Fractint fractal image by tapping the *tab* key. Bob "Cyberfractals" Margolis Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) All computers are not created equal Date: 15 May 1998 19:54:43 -0700 Try alt+enter.....that works for me except that color cycling goes mad when I return to fractint with alt+enter again. Otherwise....all is well RJ Corradino wrote: > > Welp...just goes to show you. I have the same settings, and windows has a > nervous breakdown when I alt-tab from fractint. > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aq936@freenet.carleton.ca (Michael Traynor) Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractals and Poetry Date: 15 May 1998 23:12:18 -0400 (EDT) >FRM:poem { ; created using FracText 1.0 à6 - by Jan Maarten van der Valk Les, What is FracText, and (where) can one get it? I believe it is the same thing that was used to make the Happy New Year par that was posted a while ago. -- Mike Traynor People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like. Abraham Lincoln Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: Re: (fractint) par restore menu wish list item Date: 16 May 1998 00:35:41 -0400 Emacs... an operating system shell disguised as an editor. Someone's probably written an elisp hack for a key-popup fake pseudo-spreadsheet for when you see the boss coming down the aisle headed for your cubicle... and it got buried in the "compact" install... no wonder they call it "eight megabytes and constantly swapping" :-) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Irwin" Subject: (fractint) Fractint Deep-Zooming and Planck's Length Date: 16 May 1998 02:27:38 +0000 Hi Fractint zealots I am developing some theories in the world of the very small and have come across a definition called Planck's length which appears to suggest that there is a limit to a measure of 10 to the minus 33. As this measure is way bigger than that which can be developed in Deep Zooming - 19.5 documentation, page 144 quotes 10 to the 1600 - can you tell me if there is any discussion or reference on the web that rationalises this discrepancy. The essence of the theories I am developing are to suggest that time is the THIRD dimension!!! Replies to the list or to me individually will be appreciated. Dave in Toronto Dave Irwin Toronto Ontario Canada irwin@netcom.ca http://www.netcom.ca/~irwin Time is the THIRD Dimension Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Barnsley Petals Formula Date: 16 May 1998 01:28:46 -0500 (CDT) comment { I liked Oliver Klimek's SpiralOfDoomstiny so I decided to try my petals rendering method on it. Using the petals method with Oliver's par produced a rather unspectacular spiral, but did reveal that the spiral is a double spiral with one arm of the spiral trapping odd iterations, the other arm trapping even iterations. Anyhow, since I spent the time combining the Barnsley equations with the petals rendering, I thought I might as well use it and so here's a couple of pars that do produce some fairly decent images. The pars do not have computation times in the comments because I already had the coordinates and parameters so I only ran these at very low resolution with solid guessing just to make sure they worked. The images are better than you might expect, given the discontinuities produced by the Barnsley equations. The discontinuities do appear in the images, but notice how the major blossums are unaffected in the first par. Paul Carlson } frm:Petals_Barnsley1 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; p1 = coordinates of the Julia set ; real(p2) = radius of the circles - this controls ; the size of the petals ; imag(p2) not Used ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in each color range ; w = pixel c = p1 z = range_num = iter = 0 r = real(p2) ir = flip(r) r2 = r * r num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) index_factor = colors_in_range / (r2 + r2) : IF (real(w) >= 0) w = (w - 1) * c ELSE w = (w + 1) * c ENDIF ; c1 = (|w - r| < r2) c2 = (|w + ir| < r2) c3 = (|w + r| < r2) c4 = (|w - ir| < r2) IF (c1 && c4) d = |w - r - ir| ELSEIF (c1 && c2) d = |w - r + ir| ELSEIF (c2 && c3) d = |w + r + ir| ELSEIF (c3 && c4) d = |w + r - ir| ELSE d = 0 ENDIF IF (d > 0) z = index_factor * d + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter d == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20 } brn1ptl1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=ptlbarn1.frm formulaname=Petals_Barnsley1 passes=t corners=-0.765795213/-1.1017582/1.03934735/0.830473629/-0.786\ 482501/1.0669304 params=1/1/0.8/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=242 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<\ 11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<12>R0BO08O00<15>z88<1\ 1>R11c40<14>vS0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<14>xw0zz0yw0<11>aG0000<13>000 } brn1ptl2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=ptlbarn1.frm formulaname=petals_barnsley1 passes=t corners=-2/2/-1.5/1.5 params=0.7/0.7/0.3/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=242 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000C02<58>pEYqEYrFZsF_rFZqEY<59>C02HKS<60>MnuMovMnu<60\ >HKS000000DGO000000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: (fractint) Re: Conic Sections coloring methods Date: 15 May 1998 23:40:46 -0700 (MST) Did anyone actually see and/or read that 20K tome I posted a few days ago? Just curious. Kerry Mitchell Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Conic Sections coloring methods Date: 16 May 1998 06:38:26 -0400 At 11:40 PM 5/15/1998 -0700, you wrote: >Did anyone actually see and/or read that 20K tome I posted a few days ago? >Just curious. > >Kerry Mitchell Yes, indeed. And forwarded it to myself at UMd to print out and look at while "w!@#$%^". I did notice at the lead of the frms a fingerfehler where E=P3R _and_ P3I, but since that is in commentary as opposed to operational it makes no difference. Probably no one else caught it since it affects nothing. As I have time, hopefully at some point this wekend, I may give a shot at writing a conic frm using your info. And thank you for posting it! Best Regards, davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractals and Poetry Date: 16 May 1998 11:22:15 +0100 Hi Mike, >What is FracText, and (where) can one get it? I believe it is the same thing >that was used to make the Happy New Year par that was posted a while ago. Fractext was written by Jan Maarten van der Valk <100256.3721@compuserve.com> As far as I know it isn't available publicly as Jan was still developing the program. The version I have is 1-alpha-6 - which is fully functional and bug-free. I will gladly make the alpha version available through my web site (75K zip file) if it's OK with Jan. I haven't heard from Jan in a l-o-n-g while, but will try to contact him this weekend. Returning to your original question concerning overlaying poetry on an image - I think you will find Fractext of limited use in this department (unless your poems are very short!). The problem is that, for a long text message, the required formula will become too large for Fractint to handle. The nice aspect of Fractext is that it allows you to generate text overlay in an image that you can continue to manipulate (zoom, rotate, re-color etc.) in Fractint. I suspect, as others have already said, you will probably achieve the best results using a program like Paint Shop Pro. With this you can easily overlay text, as a floating object, using any font, with the option of adding effects such as drop shadow, cut-out etc. cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) Fractint Deep Date: 16 May 1998 09:40:55 -0400 Hi Dave, >> I am developing some theories in the world of the very small and have= come across a definition called Planck's length which appears to suggest that there is a limit to a measure of 10 to the minus 33. << In the physical world where the units are centimeters, yes. But what if the units you choose are are Hubble radii? >> The essence of the theories I am developing are to suggest that time i= s the THIRD dimension!!!<< Unless you are speaking as a Flatlander, I suppose you can order the dimensions anyway you choose. I would prefer to see time as the FIRST dimension, followed by the other 9, or 10 or 25 depending on which symmet= ry you believe the universe is based on. Hilbert Space can accomidate an infinite (countable) number of dimensions. Lee Skinner Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Deep-Zooming and Planck's Length Date: 16 May 1998 08:43:54 -0600 Dave asked: 0000,0000,0000> Hi Fractint zealots > I am developing some theories in the world of the very small and > have come across a definition called Planck's length which appears to > suggest that there is a limit to a measure of 10 to the minus 33. As > this measure is way bigger than that which can be developed in Deep > Zooming - 19.5 documentation, page 144 quotes 10 to the 1600 - can > you tell me if there is any discussion or reference on the web that > rationalises this discrepancy. When you zoom into a fractal you aren't zooming into physical space, where Planck's length applies, but the mathematical space of complex numbers, which suffers from no such quantization. Complex numbers are not limited by Planck's length, and in fact are not limited at all. True, the ability of computers to deep zoom is limited, but only by the memory size needed to represent arbitrary precision numbers of sufficient precision and the time to render the image. But this limitation is not due to the characteristics of complex numbers. One can mathematically define deepzoomed fractal objects that would be impossible to render on a real computer, but still exist. There is no upper bound on magnifications possible with fractals based on complex numbers. Fractint's limit of 10^1600 is due to the restriction of placing all arbitrary precision variables in one 64K piece of memory. I'm sure with a small bit of effort, this limit could be extended -- on today's computers 64K is no big deal. The only reason we haven't done this is that slow rendering is the real practical limit for zoom depth. Anyone who implements arbitrary precision under a 32 bit environment like Win95 or Linux can easily achieve zoom depths vastly greater than 10^1600. We will remove this limit when Fractint is ported to Win95 (we could eliminate the limit now with Xfract if anyone cared.) Are you ready for 10^16000? Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) web page Date: 16 May 1998 11:16:57 -0400 My first effort at putting up a web page is now complete. I invite all of you to visit it at either of the following addresses: http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ It is a GeoPlus site, so you won't be bombarded with advertising banners. Your patience, however, will in all probability be taxed by the slow load of all 6 pages on the site. I apologize for that, but having kept extraneous material, including text, to a minimum, I wound up with pages loaded with fractals. There is a page dedicated to Paul Carlson with some of my images based on his formulas. The most useful feature of this page is a complete set of all Paul's formulas and pars posted to this list in 1997 & 1998, 72 and 270 respectively, available for download. If you are missing any of these, here is a place to get them. Another page contains Chebyshev fractals, including some based on a beta version of formulas now being developed by Morgan L. Owens. I am a rank beginner in formula writing, but I ventured to put up a page of images based on a set of simple formulas I wrote. The formulas and pars are available for download. Some time ago there was some talk on this list about deep zooms. I got temporarily inspired by that talk, and so I devoted a page to 8 midgets ranging from e+21 to e+305 magnification. Self similarity is very obvious. Every now and then I ran across a fractal that reminded me of this or that animal. I collected some of these on a page entitled Fractal Zoo. Your critical comments would be greatly appreciated. Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Planck's Length Date: 16 May 1998 08:40:38 -0700 At 02:27 AM 5/16/98 +0000, Dave Irwin wrote: > I am developing some theories in the world of the very small and >have come across a definition called Planck's length which appears to >suggest that there is a limit to a measure of 10 to the minus 33. As >this measure is way bigger than that which can be developed in Deep >Zooming - 19.5 documentation, page 144 quotes 10 to the 1600 - can >you tell me if there is any discussion or reference on the web that >rationalises this discrepancy. Fractals are mathematical abstractions with arbitrary scale, and are thus exempt from the strictures of quantum theory (but I suspect you knew this already). Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) web page Date: 16 May 1998 11:41:38 EDT In a message dated 98-05-16 11:19:05 EDT, you write: << http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html >> Gedeon... Nice site...tastefully done. It should be hooked into the infinite loop. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) Re: Fractal-Art mailing list Date: 16 May 1998 10:01:28 -0600 Good morning Read Jim Muth's and Damien Jones' messages about losing the Fractal-Art mailing list. I would be distressed to lose it, because it is obviously some-thing to do with Fractint and the more about Fractint the better. BUT, as usual, I'm lagging behind the crowd, not only a few feet, but more likely several miles. I had read something about other Fractal sources, by other groups, and had always presumed they, and the Fractal-Art list were not related to Fractint except by the common-denominator of fractals. And, further presumed that it was another list with words, words, words. Also, over a period of time, I had occasionally wondered what FOTD and FOTN meant, which I had read once in a while. I had already wasted enough time with some of my neophyte questions and couldn't bring myself to ask more. I finally figured out what they mean. Now, I MUST ask, exactly what is the Fractal-Art mailing list? What do you do with it? Do you write to it? Do you read it? Do you look at it? Must you download from it, or upload to it? Is it hard to get to? To negotiate once there? My machine operates so poorly now, with so many little unexpected idiosyncrasies that I hesitate to go where no man in this household with this machine has gone before. I might get trapped in mid-send - in a dimension I could never leave and be doomed to wander a tight-rope of mini-brot threads in perpetuity getting my beard tangled in those threads. Would anybody ever find me in there, during a deep-zoom? Or even a shallow zoom? Anyway, couple of weeks maybe I'll have a new computer (alrady ordered) and will feel a bit more confident to explore. Appreciate anybody who could fill me in about the Fractal-Art list. If it is doomed I'd like to pay my respects before it is laid to rest. Thanks Ray Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Conic Sections coloring methods Date: 16 May 1998 12:27:54 -0500 Kerry, - Did anyone actually see and/or read that 20K tome I posted a few days ago? Yes, I saw it. Read a good chunk of it. Excellent generalization. I just haven't had time to play lately. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Fractal-Art mailing list Date: 16 May 1998 09:53:43 -0700 > From: Ray Montgomery > Also, over a period of time, I had occasionally wondered what FOTD > and FOTN meant, which I had read once in a while. FTOD is Jim Muth's famous Fractal of the Day featuring a fractal and some philosophy and FOTN my poor imitation, Fractal of the Night where we try to keep up with Dr. J, the Mad Scientist of Fractal Space. > Now, I MUST ask, exactly what is the Fractal-Art mailing list? What > do you do with it? Do you write to it? Do you read it? Do you look at it? > Must you download from it, or upload to it? Is it hard to get to? To > negotiate once there? [...] > Appreciate anybody who could fill me in about the Fractal-Art list. > If it is doomed I'd like to pay my respects before it is laid to rest. > > Thanks Ray Here is the trailer signature from the Fractal Art list. You subscribe just like you did for the Fractint list. It is another email list like this one. When you subscribe you will read its charter which outlines its goals. Fractal-Art, The Fractal Art Discussion List Post Message: fractal-art@aros.net Get Commands: majordomo@aros.net "help" Administrator: noring@netcom.com Unsubscribe: majordomo@aros.net "unsubscribe fractal-art" Subscribe: majordomo@aros.net "subscribe fractal-art" See you there! Jay Hill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Conic Sections coloring methods Date: 16 May 1998 10:06:34 -0700 > From: Kerry Mitchell > > Did anyone actually see and/or read that 20K tome I posted a few days ago? > Just curious. > > Kerry Mitchell Hi Kerry, What does it buy us to have the full 6 parameters? Since we have rotation and zooming as part of Fractint, are there perhaps 2 or 3 redundant parameters? If so, we could reformulate back to the h,k,r world and have parameters left over for Julia set definition. Jay Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Conic Sections coloring methods Date: 16 May 1998 10:22:16 -0700 Kerry... I've been playing with your new formulas......fun stuff. Angela Damien M. Jones wrote: > > Kerry, > > - Did anyone actually see and/or read that 20K tome I posted a few days ago? > > Yes, I saw it. Read a good chunk of it. Excellent generalization. I just > haven't had time to play lately. > > Damien M. Jones \\ > dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) > \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colleen Johnson Subject: (fractint) Newbie needs help Date: 16 May 1998 10:26:51 PDT Wow, am I glad to find you guys. I'm fairly new to computers, and very new to Fractint, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to configure Fractint to maximize my computer's potential. And I need to maximize it because I have a 486 and Windows 3.1. Anyway, I'm getting what seems to me to be rather low resolution on my fractals, and I've been trying to add the specs of my video driver to the config file, in hopes that that might improve things, but so far all I get on the screen when I do that is scrambled pixels. Can anyone help? I have a Cardex W32 Local Bus Window Accelerator VGA (ET4000/W32- VESA Local Bus) (I'm typing all of this directly from the pages of the User's Manual, because I have no idea which parts of this information may be relevant) In "Features" my manual lists the following: Tseng Labs ET4000/W32 VGA Chip Register level compatibility with the IBM VGA, EGA, CGA and MDA Extended graphics resolution modes providing 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024 High Resolution when used with multi-frequency analog monitors, and similar maximum resolutions with fixed-frequency analog monitors such as the IBM 85XX series. Support 80386/80486 VESA LOCAL BUS Operation Support maximum 72HZ Refresh Rate in modes 640.480, 800x600, and High Resolution (VESA Standard). VL-BUS Version 0.8~1.x HiColor (15,16 bit/pixel) graphics mode producing 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 resolution with 32,768 or 65,535 simultaneously display colors. True Color 24 bit/pixel graphics mode producing 640x480 resolution with 16.7M simultaneously display colors. Graphics Accelerator provides hardware drawing assist functions, such as bit block transfer (BitBlt), patterned lines and circles. 1 M bytes video memory standard Supports 64x64x2 sprite for use as hardware cursor. Extended text modes providing 132x25, 132x28, 132x44, 132x60, 100x40, and 80x60 resolutions that let your microcomputer, using popular emulatorand micro/mainframe link products, emulate the display characteristics of widely used terminals such as the DEC VT100 line and the IBM 3278 MOD 5. Drivers for running extended text modes in Lotus 1-2-3 and Symphony; and extended graphics mode drivers for Autodesk AutoCAD, Digital Research GEM, Microsoft Windows, WordPerfect, Ventura Publisher and OS/2 Presentation Manager. My monitor is a CTX CPS-1760/LR The user's manual says it is a: Super multi-frequency color monitor with microprocessor based intelligence and multi-frequency scanning capability It automatically scans all horizontal frequencies between 30KHz and 65KHz, and all vertical frequencies between 50Hz and 90Hz It has maximum horizontal resolution of 1280 dots and a maximum vertical resolution of 1024 lines with non-interlaced scanning So, if anyone can suggest how to write the appropriate line in the config file, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!!!! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) Christmas_giftwrap Date: 16 May 1998 12:34:15 -0700 I really liked Christmas_giftwrap by Les St.Clair and was inspired to fool around with dmj-mand-cr2-ang, the formula by Damien Jones. There was a sort of mandelbrot set on the shores of.......somewhere else. I couldn't decide on the colors, one had more drama and mystery and one showed the little lakes better, so if you run them in order it will substitute it. 4_midget { ; midgets caught in spider web ; 5-15-98 kathy roth ; frm by Damien Jones reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=flexba~6.frm formulaname=dmj-mand-cr2-ang passes=t center-mag=0.155445/0.67751/19.58826 params=1/10/10/1/10/10 float=y maxiter=256 inside=33 outside=real decomp=256 viewwindows=1/0.6/yes/0/0 colors=s0s<13>000000<6>0zW<7>000000\ 790w0wKR0<3>kz0<15>0zz<7>000000<6>zk0\ <15>0Wz<7>000000029<5>zG0<15>00z<7>0\ 00000<6>z00<15>0Gz<6>028000000<6>zW0\ <15>0kz<7>000000<6>zz0<15>0zk<7>0000\ 00<6>Wz0<7>000000<14>z0zw0w cyclerange=0/255 } 1_another-shore { ; midgets on another shore ; 5-15-98 kathy roth ; frm by Damien Jones reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=flexba~6.frm formulaname=dmj-mand-cr2-ang passes=t center-mag=0.124636/0.657618/14.65202 params=1/10/10/1/10/1 float=y maxiter=256 inside=33 outside=real viewwindows=1/0.6/yes/0/0 colors=mGE<2>hAEaI9<6>xTF<8>H3\ AC09908<6>KBDMDEMFF<2>MMI000<16>C81D92FB3<\ 2>LG4OI5QK7<12>vlYxn_yo`zpawn_ukY<16>bVH\ 000<23>000000223<5>HHNKKQNNTQQXT\ T_<6>ilploslpr<14>OI5<11>pgTriVulYxn_zp\ a<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<3>KJNHGMGFL<1\ 0>724602702<20>Q08R09S09T0AU0A<6>`0Da0\ Db2D<14>zVF<6>oIE cyclerange=0/255 } 2_another-shore { ; midgets on another shore ; 5-15-98 kathy roth ; frm by Damien Jones colors=C`V<6>7LJXFD<4>rDQ<2>tS_uXcv\ agwfkwknxpryuvzzz<33>LguKguJfuHetHdrH\ cq<4>F`kE_iEZhEYfDYe<8>BUVBUUBTTASR<38>4\ AA<13>BZUC`VBZU<22>6B56936A4<46>\ PbF<6>svc<6>feBdc7``8<4>FOFJNF<2>caEk\ fDrkDzqCzmC<8>v8A<5>x39r48 cyclerange=0/255 } 3_another-shore { ; midget lakes in a watershed ; 5-15-98 kathy roth ; frm by Damien Jones colors=Wlw<8>LguKguJfuHetHdr\ Hcq<4>F`kE_iEZhEYfDYe<8>BUVBUUBTTASR<38>4AA<\ 13>BZUC`VBZU<22>6B56936A4<46>Pb\ F<6>svc<6>feBdc7``8<4>FOFJNF<2>caEkfDrkDz\ qCzmC<8>v8A<5>x39<3>`A7000QE6KG\ 6<7>rDQ<2>tS_uXcvagwfkwknxpryuvzzz<23>Ymw cyclerange=0/255 } frm:dmj-Mand-Cr2-Ang { ; outside = decomp ; angle of closest z[n] to ring at p1 ; This is the angle relative to p1. IF (imag(p2) == 0) ; Invalid value for aspect ratio. p2 = (0,1) + real(p2) ; Substitute a default value. ENDIF IF (real(p3) == 0) ; Invalid value for color scale. p3 = 75 + flip(imag(p3)) ; Substitute a default value. ENDIF IF (imag(p3) == 0) ; Invalid value for ring radius. p3 = (0,1) + real(p3) ; Substitute a default value. ENDIF closest = 1e+38 ; Closest approach so far. point = 0 ; Point of that closest approach. done = 2 ; Iteration counter. r = (0,1) ^ (real(p2)/90) ; Compute rotation vector. radius = sqr(imag(p3)) ; Calculate radius squared. z = 0, c = pixel: ; Mandelbrot initialization. z = sqr(z) + c ; Mandelbrot calculation. done = done + 1 ; Done one more iteration. z2 = (z-p1) * r ; Offset to p1 and rotate. z2 = real(z2) + flip(imag(z2) * imag(p2)) ; Distort aspect. d = abs((|z2|) - radius) ; Compute ring distance squared. IF (d < closest) ; Closer than previous value. point = z ; Save that point. closest = d ; Save the closest approach. ENDIF IF (|z| > 128) ; Point exceeds bailout. z = point - p1 ; Return closest point. done = -1 ; Set flag to force an exit. ENDIF done >= 0 ; Continue if the flag is clear. ;SOURCE: dmj-pub.frm } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Conic Sections coloring methods Date: 16 May 1998 12:31:29 -0700 (MST) On Sat, 16 May 1998, Jay Hill wrote: > What does it buy us to have the full 6 parameters? Since we have > rotation and zooming as part of Fractint, are there perhaps 2 or 3 > redundant parameters? If so, we could reformulate back to the > h,k,r world and have parameters left over for Julia set definition. Hmm. Good point. I put the full six parameters in there for generality. Certainly, for any given section, there are parameters that are redundant to Fractint's zoom/skew/rotate/translate/hesitate/legislate capabilities. However, I don't know if every section can be gotten with less (say 4) parameters plus a judicous use of the zoombox. Also, keep in mind that some of the formulas work in orbit-space, not coordinate-space. Thanks for the tip, Jay. I'll check into it. Kerry Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) Re: Conic Sections.... Date: 16 May 1998 13:03:54 -0700 --------------12B676CF1E50DD5CE8E70B31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kerry Mitchell wrote: > Did anyone actually see and/or read that 20K tome I posted a few days ago? > Just curious. > I'm really happy you posted that. (I suspect most people are at least a few days behind keeping up with this list.) When I was trying to apply the elliptical bailout to gravijul I was wondering about making the bailout a parabola or other shape and had a notion of doing a math review sometime "soon". It was nice to have it all right there and very well explained. --------------12B676CF1E50DD5CE8E70B31 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kerry Mitchell wrote:

Did anyone actually see and/or read that 20K tome I posted a few days ago? Just curious.

I'm really happy you posted that. (I suspect most people
are at least a few days behind keeping up with this list.)
When I was trying to apply the elliptical bailout to gravijul
I was wondering about making the bailout a parabola or
other shape and had a notion of doing a math review
sometime "soon". It was nice to have it all right there and
very well explained. --------------12B676CF1E50DD5CE8E70B31-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art list threatened with extinction! Date: 16 May 1998 23:07:55 +0100 Jim Muth: >I would take over the task of running the F.A. list if I >had the time, which I do not. But if I assumed the >position of administrator, I would re-write the charter >and rename the list something like "Fractal Trek". >The purpose of the new list would be to create a place >where intrepid fractal explorers could join together into >a group much like the crew of the good ship Enterprise, and >share adventures. My enjoyment of fractals lies in the >adventure, and in the excitement of discovering scenes that >no one has seen before. I revel in the simple fun of going >and seeing what lies beyond the next blow-up. It is always sad to see a mailing list or a newsgroup die. I have only subscribed to fractint a couple of days ago and was pondering if I should also subscribe to F.A. It is really a strange coincidence that in my first couple of posts to this list I described my own attitude towards fractals in *exactly* the same way as you, including "Fractal Trek". If you haven't read my posts yet, read them and smile. If you have, shouldn't you have considered quoting me ? So it is obvious that I fully agree with you. But I can already see a possible Frac Trek list going down the drain the same way as F.A. because there is just too much overlap. Fractint is THE software for fractals, so almost any discussion about fractals will involve Fractint in one or the other way. Deep Zoomers will exchange their pars and math junkies their frm files. People who are just interested in making pretty pictures will skim off pars and frms anyway. Frac Trek will only have a chance if there are enough people not interested in Fractint in general and if the majority of fractint subscribers are not intersted in fractal exploring. Both cases are ridiculously improbable. I could bet that most people would subscribe to both of the lists. After a while they will have problems deciding to which list to post to. After another while they will just post to fractint. After still another while Frac Trek will die. IMO it will all come down to fractint being the one and only fractal list. Oliver Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Deep-Zooming and Planck's Length Date: 16 May 1998 23:08:50 +0100 "Dave Irwin" elaborated: >Hi Fractint zealots > I am developing some theories in the world of the very small and >have come across a definition called Planck's length which appears to >suggest that there is a limit to a measure of 10 to the minus 33. As >this measure is way bigger than that which can be developed in Deep >Zooming - 19.5 documentation, page 144 quotes 10 to the 1600 - can >you tell me if there is any discussion or reference on the web that >rationalises this discrepancy. > The essence of the theories I am developing are to suggest that time >is the THIRD dimension!!! Your theory seems to have earth-shattering dimensions. Nobel prizes have been given away for much less. But before you carry on I suggest you first get aquainted with the concept of "real numbers" which has been introduced into modern mathematics just recently. You will eventually find out that you can divide any ordinary number into an infinite number of infinitely small parts. Mathematical formulae basing on this concept, e.g. fractals, allow you to calculate happily away without having to care about physical restrictions like Plancks's length, Heisenberg's relation etc. Half of the mandelbrot set is imaginary anyway. Oliver Klimek >irwin@netcom.ca http://www.netcom.ca/~irwin Visit the website, it's fun. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jiho Kim Subject: (fractint) conic section... Date: 16 May 1998 16:06:09 -0700 (PDT) To whoever cares, If I'm understanding things right, the shape of the bailout condition is changed to conic secion on a complex-real plane (x=real, y=image, sorta thing). Fractint does have its rotation capability, but it can't rotate the bailout condition in respect to the plane. So, I'm thinking you need all 6 parameters to achieve a the most general generalization of the conic section bailout conditions. OR MAYBE FIVE PARAMETERS... It's been a long time since I've played with conic sections, but aren't most conic sections of various scales renderable with 1 or 2 parameters? Another 2 for translation (x & y) and another 1 (theta) for rotation. The sixth one in Ax^2 + ... + F = 0 can be somehow taken out... (divide everything by F and reconsider your variables and you end up with 5 variables) I don't know if that really doesn't help in terms of speed, but maybe someone can think of another way to slim down the problem... I'm not sure what Julia parameters or whatever it ended up being called, but would this extra space help? I'd like to know if I'm totally off on this, so please comment away... smiles, Jiho Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) Newbie needs help Date: 16 May 1998 19:37:31 EDT In a message dated 98-05-16 13:31:13 EDT, you write: << Anyway, I'm getting what seems to me to be rather low resolution on my fractals >> Have you selected the propper video mode in fractint at the start of the program? I don't want to assume that you have as you haven't stated so. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) conic section... Date: 16 May 1998 17:13:15 -0700 (MST) Jiho, > OR MAYBE FIVE PARAMETERS... It's been a long time since I've played with > conic sections, but aren't most conic sections of various scales > renderable with 1 or 2 parameters? Another 2 for translation (x & y) and > another 1 (theta) for rotation. The sixth one in Ax^2 + ... + F = 0 can > be somehow taken out... (divide everything by F and reconsider your > variables and you end up with 5 variables) I don't know if that really > doesn't help in terms of speed, but maybe someone can think of another way > to slim down the problem... I'm not sure what Julia parameters or whatever > it ended up being called, but would this extra space help? You need all 6 for the most general case, which is what I was after. Certainly, that over-specifies the problem for most sections, but since there are so many possible curves, the full set of 6 is (probably) needed to cover all bases. You can't simply divide by F, because F may be zero (any curve through the origin would have F=0). I understand the somewhat unweidly nature of this scheme, which is what I was alluding to in my disclaimer. It shouldn't be too much of a problem to generate formulas for a specific class of sections, which would free up some of the 6 parameters for Julia set use, etc. Kerry Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colleen Johnson Subject: Re: (fractint) Newbie needs help Date: 16 May 1998 17:17:32 PDT Hi Steve From what I can tell, none of the video modes offered is really right for my adapter. I mean, I can use F3 and CF5, but the resolution is pretty low. I'm assuming I should be able to get better resolution than that. Maybe I'm wrong. How do I find out? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: RE: (fractint) Newbie needs help Date: 16 May 1998 21:08:37 -0400 Colleen, what happens when you hit the delete key, and then the combination of Shift-F6 or Shift-F7 ? What do you get then? -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Colleen Johnson Sent: Saturday, May 16, 1998 8:18 PM Hi Steve From what I can tell, none of the video modes offered is really right for my adapter. I mean, I can use F3 and CF5, but the resolution is pretty low. I'm assuming I should be able to get better resolution than that. Maybe I'm wrong. How do I find out? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colleen Johnson Subject: Re: RE: (fractint) Newbie needs help Date: 16 May 1998 18:27:13 PDT Hi Marie I tried hitting those buttons. I got the usual "That mode is not available with your adapter" message. Thanks! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: RE: RE: (fractint) Newbie needs help Date: 16 May 1998 22:03:26 -0400 I'll go back and reread your message. My last computer had the ET4000 adapter which I used successfully with both Windows 3.1 and Win95. Meanwhile, I hope someone with more technical knowledge will jump in with some suggestions. It's a shame not to be able to view these in at least 600x800. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Colleen Johnson Sent: Saturday, May 16, 1998 9:27 PM Hi Marie I tried hitting those buttons. I got the usual "That mode is not available with your adapter" message. Thanks! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art site Date: 16 May 1998 21:11:16 -0600 Hi I thought I had the address of the Fractal-Art site, but I've looked high and low and can't find it. Then I thought I must go to the major-domo, or something. Can someone set me straight. What address do I use to get started to get to the Fractal-Art page? Thanks, Ray Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) Carlson formula pars Date: 16 May 1998 23:14:40 -0700 Someone told me that when they paint the Victorian houses in San Francisco with the soft imaginative colors they always have an odd number of colors. I modified a color map for one of Paul Carlson's formulas and found it hard to get the effect I wanted. Not only are there 8 color ranges rather than an odd number, but they are all equal. It is usually easier if you have a main color, a clearly secondary color and then a highlight. I think this is why the rainbow maps look so good on them. The rainbow is suited to having several strong equal colors. Here are some pars based on Paul's formulas- if anyone needs the formulas please let me know; I am not re-posting the formulas. 1planetarium { ; 5-15-98 kathy roth ; frm by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=flexballs_r4 passes=1 center-mag=-4.85050645044610900/+0.82642201391573340/5428.117 params=0.14/0/0.0185/0 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 invert=1/0/0 viewwindows=1/0.6/yes/0/0 colors=03Dghg<2>loqkoq<14>000200<2>0\ 11011021031<2>053063063073083<3>0B50\ B50C61D7<2>4GC4HD5IE6JF7KH<5>AQNBRPA\ QO<5>7LH6KG5JE4ID4HB<12>2A7265255265\ 265144265265144<2>154154144<6>1110000\ 01<27>07X07Y08_09a<2>2Be3Cg5Dh<8>GM\ uHNwIOxKPzKPyJOx<8>FFjEEiDDgCCfBBe<10>55\ G44D44D33A33A55B<8>SUYUX`X_c_bfb\ ei<2>los<13>SNCQL9PK8QK6<14>xn_<13>TN\ 9RL7PJ7PK8<9>efd } 4zoom of Carlson fbspirm4 { ; 5-15-98 kathy roth ;frm by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spir_s~1.frm formulaname=flexballs_r4 passes=t center-mag=-3.62760026880199500/+1.719\ 26811885294400/3.480998e+007 params=0.2/0/0.01/0 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 viewwindows=1/0.6/yes/0/0 colors=000NNj<5>WWz<7>0J9<15>0zW<7>0J\ J<14>0xx0zz2tt<6>JE9<15>yjU<7>BJF<1\ 5>_zn<6>LO3<8>px9<5>KMGFGIBBM<14>WWz<7>J\ 9J<15>zWz<7>J09<15>z0W<7>J90<15>\ zW0<7>JJ0<15>zz0<7>99J<8>MMg } 3pipe_dream { ; 5-15-98 kathy roth ; frm by Paul Carlson ;map by kathy roth 5-15-98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spir_s~1.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul passes=1 center-mag=0.00859561/0.141113/0.8027543/1/-57.5 params=-0.36812529/0.08941615999999999/0.06/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=0.1/0/0 viewwindows=1/0.6/yes/0/0 colors=000wxf<28>5C3hwz<28>5BGmmz<28>99C\ zee<28>M06zxg<28>A00zvn<28>D4Apr\ c<28>180ztx<28>ULR000<13>000 } 2flex_web { ; 5-15-98 kathy roth ; frm by Paul Carlson colors=78FYUq<11>MK`<2>MHPMFLMEHNCCK\ BBIA9F87<4>MCGODHPFH<3>VPIXRIZUJ_WK<\ 16>zzZxxY<16>0CC<45>MiYNjZNiZ<25>GFDFE\ CFDBEBAF99<10>8D38D39D3<6>H86I76K6\ 7L58<21>`1R`1Sa1Tb0Ua0U`0T<22>E08C07B\ 07907<3>125<3>56B67D78F89HAAJ<17>ZU\ r } The pars from flexballs_r4 reminded me of "Basket_Weave" by Les St.Clair, a really interesting image from his web page. Les, I hope you don't mind me posting your par. 5Basket Weave { ; "Basket Weave" ; (c) 1997 by Les St Clair [Jul 28, 1997] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tent_i~1.frm formulaname=tent_in_mod function=abs/sin/cabs/cabs passes=1 center-mag=-0.4168692325208040\ 0/+0.60303984386551730/1223.647 params=0.09/0/0.005/0 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=zmag logmode=fly decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/0.6/yes/0/0 colors=ZZZyoRxmNxkJwiF<4>qU6pR4oQ4<12>Z\ C5YB5W96U87T77R58<12>zpN<3>jmVelW\ ___```aaaccc<29>000B0A<14>d9H<10>A00<8>Y\ 0B`0Ca2D<25>zzm<4>yqVakYYj_Uia<1\ 3>EP7DO5CM3AK0BJ0CI0<13>U30<15>zcc<17>IDD\ GCCEAAC99A77<3>000<26>XXX cyclerange=1/150 } frm:tent_in_mod { ; Modified Sylvie Gallet formula ; Modified tent_inside.frm (generalized by Les St Clair) ; use fn1,fn2,fn4=abs & fn3=cabs for default behaviour ; set p1=0, p2=0.001 for default behaviour IF (p1 || flip(p1)) r = p1 ELSE r = 1 ENDIF z = 0 : l = r+p1 z = z*z + pixel UV = (5,5) - fn1((5,5) - fn2(z)) r = fn3(UV) fn4(l-r) >= p2 && r < 4 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art site Date: 17 May 1998 05:41:05 -0400 At 09:11 PM 5/16/1998 -0600, you wrote: > Hi > I thought I had the address of the Fractal-Art site, but I've looked >high and low and can't find it. > Then I thought I must go to the major-domo, or something. > Can someone set me straight. What address do I use to get started >to get to the Fractal-Art page? > Thanks, Ray Hi Ray, Try sending a message to: fractal-art@icd.com In the subject line of your message, write "Subscribe fractal-art"; You can also write the same line in the body of your message. That is how it works with the email lists that I have. Usually, though, the initial message is sent to something like majordomo@whatever. If that doesn't work, try sending a message to: fractal-art-owner@icd.com The unsubscription is: unsub: send "unsubscribe" to fractal-art-request@icd.com and to subscribe should be replace unsubscribe with subsribe, so you could try doing that. It may be a couple of days before everything is shaken out... The fractal-art list has not been carrying as much traffic as fractint list... Regards, davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) Christmas_gif Date: 17 May 1998 09:00:53 -0400 Kathy Roth, Here is a zoom into your wondrous another_shore travel spot: mtn_lake { ; t=3D 0:39:40.56 ; on a P233 at 1600x1200 May 17, 1998 ; Image Copyright 1998 by Lee H. Skinner ; Version 1961 Patchlevel 43 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm formulaname=3Ddmj-mand-cr2-ang center-mag=3D-1.62434002256290500/+0.00000004161746679/1.36420\ 8e+008 params=3D1/10/10/1/10/1 float=3Dy maxiter=3D4095 inside=3D33 outside=3Dreal colors=3D000zc0<5>zK0zH0zE0<2>z40z00x00<11>T00Q00N00<3>D00B008\ 00600400<3>6F07I17M18Q19U1AY2<8>dnahpekri<3>zzz<39>HhjGgiFgi\ EfhDfhBeg<46>3bs3bt3bt<2>2au2au3`u<55>QDnQDnRCnRCnSBm<3>UDoU\ DoVEp<2>MBV<3>P8GQ7CR68S54T40X40a40f50<3>mQ2oV2q_2<3>xt4zz0<\ 4>zj0 } Lee Skinner Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Black Hole formula and par Date: 17 May 1998 08:08:22 -0500 (CDT) comment { This image is a slightly modified version of one I posted to abpf several months ago. While I was trying to produce a decent PHC image (which I never was able to) I noticed that one of the two intermixed images looked a lot what I imagined a black hole about to swallow a nebula might look like. So I modified Bob Carr's excellent PHC formula and used just half of it. The result is almost what I wanted, but it could use a little help from the masters of color on this list. Paul Carlson } frm:Carr2821b { ; This is one-half of Bob Carr's Carr2821 PHC formula ; as modified and optimized by Sylvie Gallet ; Half the formula extracted by Paul Carlson e = 0.1/pixel , z = c = conj(e) - pixel , r = |z| k = e*(-0.9) , p = k + flip(e) + conj(0.01*e) - pixel bailout = 16 , im1 = imag(p1) , im2 = imag(p2) iter = 0 : IF (iter == p1) p = (c^1.2)*1.5 + k , r = z = 0 ELSEIF (iter == im1) p = conj(c)*2.25 + k , r = z = 0 ELSEIF (iter == p2) p = flip(c)*3.375 + k , r = z = 0 ELSEIF (iter == im2) p = flip(c)*5.0625 + k , r = z = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 , z = real(r)*0.2 + sqr(z) + p , r = |z| r <= bailout } Black_Hole { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:31:21.81, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=blckhole.frm formulaname=carr2821b passes=t center-mag=1.86825/-0.299843/0.03429727/1/-12.499 params=200/300/400/550 float=y maxiter=647 invert=1e-006/-0.091053706883/-0.43584099076 periodicity=0 colors=000<104>000<6>rri<14>wHPxENxBOx7Qx4Rt4Qq4P<23>D4GB3FB3\ F<18>000<2>88CABGCEKEHOGJS<6>Xcz<12>68C458000<47>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Irwin" Subject: (fractint) Pixel Counting Date: 17 May 1998 10:40:01 +0000 Hi there Does anyone know of some software that counts pixels of different colours in a graphic? Details will be appreciated. Thanks Dave in Toronto Dave Irwin Toronto Ontario Canada irwin@netcom.ca http://www.netcom.ca/~irwin Time is the THIRD Dimension Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art list threatened with extinction! To Jim & Jay Date: 17 May 1998 08:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Jim & Jay, Are you tweo going to post to XMISSION i.e. FRACTINT's listserv after June 15? I hope so, I'd hate to lose both of your contributions in addition to the FRACTAL- ART list. There's gotta be a way to keep 'Em coming. PLEASE at least consider it. T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie WHOOKAM88@YAHOO.COM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: (fractint) My first efforts in formula writing Date: 17 May 1998 17:16:51 +0100 I have just completed my first two self-made formulas. As they are very simple they already might have been "invented" by someone else, but I haven't came across them before.=20 The first one is an incorporation of the Lorentz contraction sqrt(1-sqr(v)/sqr(c)) which is used in calculations for special relativity. I use it with v=3Dz and c=3Dp1. Both Mandel and Julia types a= re supplied. The Mandel formula produces a regular M-set when p1 approaches zero. Values between 0 and about 0.7 produce an increasingly mutated M-se= t which disintegrates with higher p1 values. The size of the set increases with |p1|, so if you want to see an mostly undisturbed M-set with p1=3D(0.0001, 0.0001) you have to zoom in quite a bit. If one component o= f p1 is negative the image is mirrored. The Julia sets of this type are particularily nice. The second formula is the start of a generalized fourier series p1*sin(z)+p2*sin(2z)+...+c Again, both Mandel and Julia type are supplied. Unfortunately the "series" has only three terms because there are only 3 parameters available and one goes away for the julia set. I haven't explored the effects of p1 and p2 very deeply yet, but generally the closer the value is to zero, the more "solid" is the fractal. Also here the Julia sets seem to be more interesting than the Mandels. For each of the formulas I have included pars of 3 basic mandels and julias. They are not meant to look aesthetically pleasing but to give you good starting points for further explorations. Oliver ---- begin test.frm ------- LorentzM{; Mutated Mandelbrot set based on Lorentz contraction ;keep p1 between 0 and 1, <0.7 is best, negative values mirror ;Re(p1)=3DIm(p1) -> 0 converges to standard Mandel rotated by 90=B0 ;Size increases with |p1| ;p2=3Dunused ;p3=3Dbailout z=3D0=20 c=3Dpixel: z=3Dsqrt(1-(z*z)/(p1*p1))+c |z|<=3Dp3 } LorentzJ{; Julia Set for LorentzM ;keep p1 between 0 and 1, <0.7 is best ;p2=3Djulia parameter ;p3=3Dbailout z=3Dpixel c=3Dp2: z=3Dsqrt(1-(z*z)/(p1*p1))+c |z|<=3Dp3 } FourierM{; First three terms of a Fourier series ; p1 and p2: coefficients of the sine waves ; bailout fixed at 8 z=3D0=20 c=3Dpixel: z=3Dp1*sin(z)+p2*sin(2*z)+c |z|<=3D8 } FourierJ{; Julia Set of FourierM ; p1 and p2: coefficients of the sine waves ; bailout fixed at 8 z=3Dpixel c=3Dp3: z=3Dp1*sin(z)+p2*sin(2*z)+c |z|<=3D8 } ------- end test.frm --------- ------ begin test.par ------- LorentzM_01 { ; Bent Mandel ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time=3D 0:00:25.15 on P-100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm formulaname=3DLorent= zM center-mag=3D-1.00292/0.0443091/4.862883 params=3D0.15/0.15/0/0/8/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D2000 inside=3D0 colors=3DCCCdYk<8>vek<9>UE_<4>soS<8>OSp<7>pWA<23>uoYvpZuoZ<23>DJR<18>`n= Qbp\ PboP<18>bXGbVFcVI<5>j_`l`dl`d<29>fPCeOBcOB<14>3TO0UP0UP<21>2EY<8>nTe<29= >\ coebpd`peYqg } LorentzM_02 { ; Bent some more ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time=3D 0:00:35.76 on P-100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm formulaname=3DLorent= zM center-mag=3D-0.993157/0.226858/0.8503401 params=3D0.3/0.4/0/0/8/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D2000 inside=3D0 colors=3DCCCdYk<8>vek<9>UE_<4>soS<8>OSp<7>pWA<23>uoYvpZuoZ<23>DJR<18>`n= Qbp\ PboP<18>bXGbVFcVI<5>j_`l`dl`d<29>fPCeOBcOB<14>3TO0UP0UP<21>2EY<8>nTe<29= >\ coebpd`peYqg } LorentzM_03 { ; Seriously bent ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time=3D 0:01:23.84 on P-100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm formulaname=3DLorent= zM center-mag=3D-1.12467/0.198405/0.5867347 params=3D0.5/0.45/0/0/8/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D2000 inside=3D0 colors=3DCCCdYk<8>vek<9>UE_<4>soS<8>OSp<7>pWA<23>uoYvpZuoZ<23>DJR<18>`n= Qbp\ PboP<18>bXGbVFcVI<5>j_`l`dl`d<29>fPCeOBcOB<14>3TO0UP0UP<21>2EY<8>nTe<29= >\ coebpd`peYqg cyclerange=3D1/15 } LorentzJ_01 { ; Flaming stars ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time=3D 0:00:52.03 on P-100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm formulaname=3DLorent= zJ center-mag=3D0/0/0.6666667 params=3D0.44/0.5/-0.87/-0.48/8/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1000 inside=3D0 colors=3D000FFF<29>x11z00z10<29>zx0zz0zz1<29>zzxzzzzzz<61>zV1zU0zU0zT0<= 28>\ z10z00z00y00<30>c00b11a11`22_22<25>FFF } LorentzJ_02 { ; Spiral out of halved spirals ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time=3D 0:02:54.65 on P-100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm formulaname=3DLorent= zJ center-mag=3D0/0/0.5518507 params=3D0.3/0.73/-0.76/-0.37/8/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D2000 inside=3D0 colors=3D00000A<76>b01c00c00c10<60>yy9zzAzzAzzA<109>zzz } LorentzJ_03 { ; Fake Barnsley=20 ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time=3D 0:03:17.84 on P-100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm formulaname=3DLorent= zJ center-mag=3D-8.88178e-016/0.0841783/0.2862541 params=3D0.66/0.51/-1.35/-0.6/8/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D2000 inside=3D0 colors=3D00000A<76>b01c00c00c10<60>yy9zzAzzAzzA<109>zzz } FourierM_01 { ; Spiral between lakes ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time=3D 0:00:30.41 on P-100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm formulaname=3DFourie= rM center-mag=3D0.000881142/0.0233854/1.983961 params=3D0.82/-0.47/0.15/-0.07000000000000001 float=3Dy maxiter=3D2000 inside=3D0 colors=3D@volcano.map } FourierM_02 { ; S blob ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time=3D 0:00:43.88 on P-100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm formulaname=3DFourie= rM center-mag=3D0.000881142/0.0233854/0.6138887 params=3D1.18/0.35/-0.42/-0.3 float=3Dy maxiter=3D2000 inside=3D0 colors=3D@volcano.map } FourierM_03 { ; Broken weenie ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time=3D 0:00:29.41 on P-100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm formulaname=3DFourie= rM center-mag=3D0.000881142/0.0233854/0.3627524 params=3D0.15/-0.1/0.01/-0.31 float=3Dy maxiter=3D2000 inside=3D0 colors=3D@volcano.map } FourierJ_01 { ; Dancing Spirals ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time=3D 0:02:24.25 on P-100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm formulaname=3DFourie= rJ center-mag=3D1.13548/0.0835463/0.4065041 params=3D0.93/0.42/0.06/-0.18/-0.26/0.46 float=3Dy maxiter=3D2000 insid= e=3D0 colors=3D@volcano.map } FourierJ_02 { ; String of Petals with spirals ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time=3D 0:00:38.53 on P-100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm formulaname=3DFourie= rJ center-mag=3D1.13548/0.0835463/0.4065041 params=3D1.95/0.12/-0.5/-0.23/0.2/0.02 float=3Dy maxiter=3D2000 inside=3D= 0 colors=3D@volcano.map } FourierJ_03 { ; A chain of roses ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time=3D 0:00:07.44 on P-100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm formulaname=3DFourie= rJ center-mag=3D1.13548/0.0835463/0.4065041 params=3D1.45/-0.38/-0.19/0.12/1.22/0.06 float=3Dy maxiter=3D2000 insid= e=3D0 colors=3D@volcano.map } ------- end test.par ---------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) A devil of a formula Date: 17 May 1998 10:20:02 -0500 (CDT) comment { In this image you will see Satan rising from the flames of hell with his arms raised in supplication. In supplication to whom? To the larger and even more ominous figure that looms behind him. I used to post this image to the abpf newsgroup every Halloween. I happened to mention it on the fractal chat last night, and so I'm posting it to the list now because I'll probably forget about it come Halloween since I rarely post to abpf anymore. The formula is a different rendering of one of Noel Giffin's formulas - I don't remember the name of his formula - I did this image for the first time several years ago and I had a devil of a time reconstructing it. Paul Carlson } frm:devil { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; Based on one of Noel Giffin's formulas w = pixel z = iter = wp1 = wp2 = bailout = 0 : old_w = w w = w * w - wp2 wp2 = wp1 wp1 = real(old_w) - flip(imag(old_w)) IF (|w| > 4) bailout = 1 z = 4 * iter + 30 z = z - real(216) * trunc(z / real(216)) ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 } satan { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:11:04.71, 1024x768, 60MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=devil.par formulaname=devil passes=1 center-mag=0.115617/0.621436/4.205406 float=y maxiter=500 outside=summ colors=000o42<25>z0H<7>z02z00z00z00z40<12>zT0zV0zW0zX0<2>zb0z\ d0ze0zf0<7>zv0zx0zy0zz0zz0yz0xz0vz0tz0<60>z60000<115>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: (fractint) Formula repost test Date: 17 May 1998 17:30:57 +0100 I just discovered by reading digest #206 that my last post suddenly has got the much dreaded 3D disease. This could have been caused by a special character which might has induced my e-mail client to encapsulate the post. I have changed this setting and try to repost the formulas and pars. Sorry for the inconvenience, but I have been so annoyed by all the 3Ds in the archives that I want to try as hard as possible to prevent my own posts from screwing up Oliver ---- begin test.frm ------- LorentzM{; Mutated Mandelbrot set based on Lorentz contraction ;keep p1 between 0 and 1, <0.7 is best, negative values mirror ;Re(p1)=Im(p1) -> 0 converges to standard Mandel rotated by 90 deg. ;Size increases with |p1| ;p2=unused ;p3=bailout z=0 c=pixel: z=sqrt(1-(z*z)/(p1*p1))+c |z|<=p3 } LorentzJ{; Julia Set for LorentzM ;keep p1 between 0 and 1, <0.7 is best ;p2=julia parameter ;p3=bailout z=pixel c=p2: z=sqrt(1-(z*z)/(p1*p1))+c |z|<=p3 } FourierM{; First three terms of a Fourier series ; p1 and p2: coefficients of the sine waves ; bailout fixed at 8 z=0 c=pixel: z=p1*sin(z)+p2*sin(2*z)+c |z|<=8 } FourierJ{; Julia Set of FourierM ; p1 and p2: coefficients of the sine waves ; bailout fixed at 8 z=pixel c=p3: z=p1*sin(z)+p2*sin(2*z)+c |z|<=8 } ------- end test.frm --------- ------ begin test.par ------- LorentzM_01 { ; Bent Mandel ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:25.15 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=LorentzM center-mag=-1.00292/0.0443091/4.862883 params=0.15/0.15/0/0/8/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 colors=CCCdYk<8>vek<9>UE_<4>soS<8>OSp<7>pWA<23>uoYvpZuoZ<23>DJR<18>`nQbp\ PboP<18>bXGbVFcVI<5>j_`l`dl`d<29>fPCeOBcOB<14>3TO0UP0UP<21>2EY<8>nTe<29>\ coebpd`peYqg } LorentzM_02 { ; Bent some more ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:35.76 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=LorentzM center-mag=-0.993157/0.226858/0.8503401 params=0.3/0.4/0/0/8/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 colors=CCCdYk<8>vek<9>UE_<4>soS<8>OSp<7>pWA<23>uoYvpZuoZ<23>DJR<18>`nQbp\ PboP<18>bXGbVFcVI<5>j_`l`dl`d<29>fPCeOBcOB<14>3TO0UP0UP<21>2EY<8>nTe<29>\ coebpd`peYqg } LorentzM_03 { ; Seriously bent ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:01:23.84 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=LorentzM center-mag=-1.12467/0.198405/0.5867347 params=0.5/0.45/0/0/8/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 colors=CCCdYk<8>vek<9>UE_<4>soS<8>OSp<7>pWA<23>uoYvpZuoZ<23>DJR<18>`nQbp\ PboP<18>bXGbVFcVI<5>j_`l`dl`d<29>fPCeOBcOB<14>3TO0UP0UP<21>2EY<8>nTe<29>\ coebpd`peYqg cyclerange=1/15 } LorentzJ_01 { ; Flaming stars ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:52.03 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=LorentzJ center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=0.44/0.5/-0.87/-0.48/8/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 colors=000FFF<29>x11z00z10<29>zx0zz0zz1<29>zzxzzzzzz<61>zV1zU0zU0zT0<28>\ z10z00z00y00<30>c00b11a11`22_22<25>FFF } LorentzJ_02 { ; Spiral out of halved spirals ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:02:54.65 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=LorentzJ center-mag=0/0/0.5518507 params=0.3/0.73/-0.76/-0.37/8/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 colors=00000A<76>b01c00c00c10<60>yy9zzAzzAzzA<109>zzz } LorentzJ_03 { ; Fake Barnsley ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:03:17.84 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=LorentzJ center-mag=-8.88178e-016/0.0841783/0.2862541 params=0.66/0.51/-1.35/-0.6/8/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 colors=00000A<76>b01c00c00c10<60>yy9zzAzzAzzA<109>zzz } FourierM_01 { ; Spiral between lakes ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:30.41 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=FourierM center-mag=0.000881142/0.0233854/1.983961 params=0.82/-0.47/0.15/-0.07000000000000001 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 colors=@volcano.map } FourierM_02 { ; S blob ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:43.88 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=FourierM center-mag=0.000881142/0.0233854/0.6138887 params=1.18/0.35/-0.42/-0.3 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 colors=@volcano.map } FourierM_03 { ; Broken weenie ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:29.41 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=FourierM center-mag=0.000881142/0.0233854/0.3627524 params=0.15/-0.1/0.01/-0.31 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 colors=@volcano.map } FourierJ_01 { ; Dancing Spirals ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:02:24.25 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=FourierJ center-mag=1.13548/0.0835463/0.4065041 params=0.93/0.42/0.06/-0.18/-0.26/0.46 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 colors=@volcano.map } FourierJ_02 { ; String of Petals with spirals ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:38.53 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=FourierJ center-mag=1.13548/0.0835463/0.4065041 params=1.95/0.12/-0.5/-0.23/0.2/0.02 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 colors=@volcano.map } FourierJ_03 { ; A chain of roses ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:07.44 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=FourierJ center-mag=1.13548/0.0835463/0.4065041 params=1.45/-0.38/-0.19/0.12/1.22/0.06 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 colors=@volcano.map } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 17 May 1998 11:46:07 EDT Hi F3 is pretty low res. Try SF6. ALSO explore the other possibilities on the same menue. Just try them and look at the results. Good Luck, Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) Formula repost test Date: 17 May 1998 11:50:18 EDT In a message dated 98-05-17 11:40:14 EDT, you write: << Oliver ---- begin test.frm ------- >> They look normal on AOL mail Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colleen Johnson Subject: (fractint) Re: RE: Attempt to help newbie Date: 17 May 1998 08:51:10 PDT Hi Marie I guess you sent my message to someone else who might be able to help? = If so, thanks. And yes, you're right, at least 600x800 would be nice. I see all these = fractals on the Internet, and they all look beautiful on my computer; onl= y the ones I make in Fractint look kind of clunky. It's encouraging to = hear that you had the same kind of adapter, and apparently had better per= formance out of it. I'm sure it's a matter of getting everything set up = properly. Anyway, thanks again. Colleen -- >I'll go back and reread your message. My last computer had the >ET4000 = adapter which I used successfully with both Windows 3.1 and >Win95. >Meanwhile, I hope someone with more technical knowledge will jump in >wi= th some suggestions. It's a shame not to be able to view these in at >lea= st 600x800. --------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: RE: Attempt to help newbie Date: 17 May 1998 12:08:32 EDT In a message dated 98-05-17 11:57:37 EDT, you write: << It's a shame not to be able to view these in at >least 600x800. >> Is your 'puter not allowing you to use SF6??? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Black Hole formula and par Date: 17 May 1998 09:26:17 -0700 Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote: > > comment { > This image is a slightly modified version of one I posted to abpf > several months ago. While I was trying to produce a decent PHC image > (which I never was able to) I noticed that one of the two intermixed > images looked a lot what I imagined a black hole about to swallow a > nebula might look like. So I modified Bob Carr's excellent PHC formula > and used just half of it. The result is almost what I wanted, but it > could use a little help from the masters of color on this list. > > Paul Carlson > } <> Paul.... Here is a very minor modification on your color map. I got the idea from looking at some of the astronomy pics I've gotten from NASA....many seem to have a touch of teal....so that's what I used. Pauls_par { ; recolor of Paul Carlson's Black Hole par reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=carr2821b passes=t center-mag=1.86825/-0.299843/0.03429727/1.25/-12.499 params=200/300/400/550 float=y maxiter=647 invert=1e-006/-0.091053706883/-0.43584099076 periodicity=0 colors=000<104>000<6>rri<14>wHPxENxBOx7Qx4Rt4Qq4P<23>D4GB3FB3F<5>82A7296\ 29629<10>61950A52B<9>1IJ0KK0JK<12>458000<47>000 } And I just HAD to join the resort coloring/zooming fray......those were really scary mountains Lee!!!!! And I love your another_shore par Kathy.....I think my version is a drive along Pacific Coast Highway during a red tide.....maybe near Malibu. Yo Dudes.......avoid this water!!!! offshore_eddies { ; (c) A Wilczynski May 17, 1998 t= 0:28:48.68 on 266 PII ; zoom on Lee Skinner's mtn_lake ; ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj-pub.frm formulaname=dmj-mand-cr2-ang center-mag=-1.62434002184750600/+0.00000004021583828/2.394758e+009/1.244\ 7/-6.241/2.237 params=1/10/10/1/10/1 float=y maxiter=4095 inside=33 outside=real colors=004000000201402000603804B06<10>M0AN0AO0AP0AR0B<4>Y2E_3F`5F<14>wm0\ <15>Q0E<8>C0BA0A808<2>202000000<3>000000101112<2>325326437548<20>JGTKHUK\ HT<8>ECKDBICAHB9FA8E<12>111000000000<3>00010330650A<25>00U00U00T<21>00I0\ 0H00G10F30E50D60B<2>E08H06K05N03Q02U00<18>wmK<17>K44<3>000000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Join us next time! Date: 17 May 1998 11:30:46 -0500 (CDT) We had another great fractal chat last night. Like last time we swapped pars and formulas and everybody learned something. Some of the things discussed: 1) Pros and cons of various fractal programs. 2) Best books on fractals and best places to buy them. 3) How to do various things in Fractint. I learned a neat trick from Bob Margolis about how to create kaleidoscopic images. 4) How to do things in IRC. And, of course, we all got to know each other a little better. If it sounds like I'm trying to seduce others into joining us next time - you're absolutely right! It really is a great way to learn. Expert Fractint users like Bob Margolis can answer almost any question on using Fractint and expert IRC users like Wizzle and Earl can answer almost any IRC question. So if you're new to IRC (I was a few weeks ago) or a Fractint newbie, don't be afraid to join us next time (to be announced by Wizzle). It's great fun! If you need to get IRC software and instructions on installing and using it, contact Wizzle (I'm pretty good at volunteering your time, aren't I Wiz? :) ). Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: Re: (fractint) Pixel Counting Date: 17 May 1998 09:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Paint Shop Pro counts colors, so does Graphic Workshop for Windows. Both are available in 16 - Bit and 32 - Bit Windows versions. You should be able to find them on any Shareware repositiory. L8R James R. McKenzie WHOOKAM88@YAHOO.COM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Black Hole formula and par Date: 17 May 1998 11:33:12 -0500 (CDT) Wiz... >Here is a very minor modification on your color map. I got the idea >from looking at some of the astronomy pics I've gotten from NASA.... >many seem to have a touch of teal....so that's what I used. Thanks much - I like it! Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: (fractint) Having a wonderful time! Date: 17 May 1998 09:55:36 -0700 I'm still having a great time using Mark "Bud" Christenson's gravijul formulas. I found all of these using a variation of gravijul.frm. Enjoy! Linda http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/ (last update 4/29/98) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519 (last update 5/8/98) http://www.toptown.com/innercircle/gumbycat/index.html (last update 3/20/98) +++++++++++begin+++++++++++ deepdark { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 17, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:01:27.38 on P166 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.frm formulaname=grav-lla function=log/log/recip center-mag=+0.64562209388675280/-0.73011152140140270/1607.295/1.1211/-30 params=2/-2/4/-4 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 colors=000<10>los<13>SNCQL9QL9RL9<4>`UGbWIeYKg_MjaO<5>xn_<12>VPBTN9TN9SN \ A<2>VQHWSJXTLYVOZYS<8>nru<15>000200501000<14>99`AAcBAd<14>ZPz<14>3Be0Ac0 \ Ab<13>01C00A00A<14>G7II8JH8J<13>22G01F02H<10>09a0Ac1Ad2Be<12>IOxKPzKPy<1 \ 2>CCfBBeAAcAAa<10>33A228227<4>000 } the-vine { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 17, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:01:43.09 on P166 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.frm formulaname=grav-lla function=log/log/recip center-mag=-0.59762709499087630/+0.23440995734856330/57.51117/1/-29.999 params=1.5/-1.5/4/-4 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 colors=hkkhkk<2>nru<15>000200100000<13>0A40B40C50C6<13>AQNBRPBRO<13>1D70 \ C50C5<13>01900A00A10A<13>G7II8JH8J<13>22G01F02H<10>09a0Ac1Ad2Be<12>IOxKP \ zKPy<12>CCfBBeAAcAAa<14>000<13>los<13>SNCQL9PK8QK6<14>xn_<13>TN9RL7PJ7PK \ 8<10>ghg } blueblue { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 17, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:03:19.27 on P166 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.frm formulaname=grav-lla function=log/log/recip center-mag=-2.82112811173902500/-2.22596266815481700/3918.152/1/-29.998 params=1/-1/4/-4 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 colors=dXJ<2>ZTFXRDVPBTN9RL7PJ7PK8<14>nru<15>000200100000<13>0A40B40C50C \ 6<13>AQNBRPBRO<13>1D70C50C5<13>01900A00A10A<13>G7II8JH8J<13>22G01F02H<10 \ >09a0Ac1Ad2Be<12>IOxKPzKPy<12>CCfBBeAAcAAa<14>000<13>los<13>SNCQL9PK8QK6 \ <14>xn_<7>fZL } spikes1 { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 17, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:03:21.68 on P166 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.frm formulaname=grav-lla function=log/log/recip center-mag=-2.84666334870138900/-2.28353493741157400/208.5362/1/-29.999 params=1/-1/4/-4 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=bof61 colors=xn_<13>TN9RL7PJ7PK8<14>nru<15>000200100000<13>0A40B40C50C6<13>AQN \ BRPBRO<13>1D70C50C5<13>01900A00A10A<13>G7II8JH8J<13>22G01F02H<10>09a0Ac1 \ Ad2Be<12>IOxKPzKPy<12>CCfBBeAAcAAa<14>000<13>los<13>SNCQL9PK8QK6<14>xn_ } vines_2 { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 17, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:03:46.68 on P166 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.frm formulaname=grav-lla function=log/log/recip center-mag=-1.15967415771013100/-0.17998714197830430/261.2244/1/-29.998 params=1.5/-1.5/4/-4 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 colors=TN9SM9RL8PJ7PK8<14>nru<15>000200100000<13>0A40B40C50C6<13>AQNBRPB \ RO<13>1D70C50C5<13>01900A00A10A<13>G7II8JH8J<13>22G01F02H<10>09a0Ac1Ad2B \ e<12>IOxKPzKPy<12>CCfBBeAAcAAa<14>000<13>los<13>SNCQL9PK8QK6<14>xn_<12>V \ PB } offcenter { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 17, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:01:04.59 on P166 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.frm formulaname=grav-lla function=log/log/recip center-mag=-0.62974618472394960/+0.60430456524979540/87.64974/1/-29.999 params=1.5/-1.5/4/-4 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 colors=9PM<6>5JE5ID4HC3GA3F92E81D70C5<14>01900A00A10A<13>G7II8JH8J<13>22 \ G01F02H<10>09a0Ac1Ad2Be<12>IOxKPzKPy<12>CCfBBeAAcAAa<14>000<13>los<13>SN \ CQL9PK8QK6<14>xn_<13>TN9RL7PJ7PK8<14>nru<15>000200100000<13>0A40B40C50C6 \ <13>AQNBRPBROAQN } bubbly { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 17, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:02:05.07 on P166 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.frm formulaname=grav-lla function=log/log/recip center-mag=+0.50798142291530790/+0.44660720505682650/64.69435/1/90 params=-2.125/-0.875/4/-4 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 colors=YRD<3>RL9PJ7PK8<14>nru<15>000200100000<13>0A40B40C50C6<13>AQNBRPB \ RO<13>1D70C50C5<13>01900A00A10A<13>G7II8JH8J<13>22G01F02H<10>09a0Ac1Ad2B \ e<12>IOxKPzKPy<12>CCfBBeAAcAAa<14>000<13>los<13>SNCQL9PK8QK6<14>xn_<10>_ \ TF } BusySpir { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 17, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:02:00.89 on P166 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.frm formulaname=grav-lla function=log/log/recip center-mag=+0.70867283493704720/+0.31840594795862230/660.9399/1/90 params=-2.125/-0.875/4/-4 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 colors=xn_<13>TN9RL7PJ7PK8<14>nru<15>000200100000<13>0A40B40C50C6<13>AQN \ BRPBRO<13>1D70C50C5<13>01900A00A10A<13>G7II8JH8J<13>22G01F02H<10>09a0Ac1 \ Ad2Be<12>IOxKPzKPy<12>CCfBBeAAcAAa<14>000<13>los<13>SNCQL9PK8QK6<14>xn_ } frm:grav-lla { ; Linda Allison's variation of ; Mark "Bud" Christenson's gravijul frm ; defaults: p1 = (1,0) p2 = (4,0) z = c = pixel: w = fn1(z)*fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + c |z| < p2 } +++++++++++++end++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art list threatened with extinction! Date: 17 May 1998 13:23:14 -0400 (EDT) At 08:03 AM 5/17/98 -0700, you wrote: >Jim & Jay, > >Are you tweo going to post to XMISSION i.e. FRACTINT's listserv after >June 15? I hope so, I'd hate to lose both of your contributions in >addition to the FRACTAL- ART list. There's gotta be a way to keep 'Em >coming. > No problem. The Fractal-Art list has been saved. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art list threatened with extinction! To Jim & Jay Date: 17 May 1998 12:39:26 -0600 James R. McKenzie wrote: > Jim & Jay, > > Are you tweo going to post to XMISSION i.e. FRACTINT's listserv after > June 15? I hope so, I'd hate to lose both of your contributions in > addition to the FRACTAL- ART list. There's gotta be a way to keep 'Em > coming. > > PLEASE at least consider it. Have no fear, the fractal-art list has been rehosted and has a new administrator. The new administrator is Damien Jones, and the new address is fractal-art@icd.com. Members of the old list have automatically been moved to the new address. Jim and Jay are welcome to post the "fractal of the day" and "fractal of the night" here, but personally I think it is better the way it is. Their postings are more visible in that quieter forum. I'd entertain suggestions for splitting this forum to make it work better for members. Should we consider a PAR and FRM only list, and another for questions and discussion? The truck is splitting the forum in such a way that one doesn't have all the traffic. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) My first efforts in formula writing Date: 17 May 1998 11:39:47 -0700 Oliver Klimek wrote: > > I have just completed my first two self-made formulas. As they are very > simple they already might have been "invented" by someone else, but I > haven't came across them before. > <> Oliver... I didn't have any problems with your first posting. I'm using Communicator as a mail client. Nice formula and pars!!! I particularly like the julia frm Angela Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) Having a wonderful time! Date: 17 May 1998 14:26:45 EDT In a message dated 98-05-17 13:02:03 EDT, you write: << I'm still having a great time using Mark "Bud" Christenson's gravijul formulas. I found all of these using a variation of gravijul.frm. Enjoy! Linda >> I enjoyed! { Interesting how raising the real p2 [22] in bubbly closes the burst in the bubbles but, diminishes the gold crosses.} I like 'em, Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: RE: (fractint) Newbie needs help Date: 17 May 1998 20:43:21 +0100 Marie Drozdis wrote: >I'll go back and reread your message. My last computer had the ET4000 >adapter which I used successfully with both Windows 3.1 and Win95. >Meanwhile, I hope someone with more technical knowledge will jump in with >some suggestions. It's a shame not to be able to view these in at least >600x800. Guess you mean 800x600. Fractint's got a lot of crazy vid modes, but 600x800 :-) Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Newbie needs help Date: 17 May 1998 20:41:09 +0100 Colleen wrote: >Wow, am I glad to find you guys. I'm fairly new to computers, and very >new to Fractint, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to configure >Fractint to maximize my computer's potential. And I need to maximize it >because I have a 486 and Windows 3.1. Anyway, I'm getting what >seems to me to be rather low resolution on my fractals, and I've been >trying to add the specs of my video driver to the config file, in hopes >that that might improve things, but so far all I get on the screen when I >do that is scrambled pixels. Can anyone help? > ><> > >So, if anyone can suggest how to write the appropriate line in the >config file, I'd really appreciate it. > >Thanks!!!! You didn't specify whether you're running fractint from Windows or from DOS. Windows (especially v3.1) usually doesn't allow hires dos programs to run, so switching to a higher res is quite unlikely to work. If you *are* starting fractint from windows, you could better exit and run fractint from the dos prompt. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: re:(fractint) offshore_eddies Date: 17 May 1998 15:29:07 EDT Angela... Nice ...it reminds me of some of the more dramatic music in Fantasia...Night on Bald mountain. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint) Christmas_giftwrap Date: 17 May 1998 20:34:38 +0100 Hi Kathy, >>1_another-shore ; midgets on another shore<< Wow! Super 3D-effect! I had a dabble with your "midgets caught in spider web" and came up with these... leafy_m { ; leafy midget t= 0:04:24.96 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1998 by Les St Clair [Par date: May 16, 1998] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=dmj-mand-cr2-ang passes=t center-mag=+0.16331754865604500/+0.63975427681142860/94.17433/1.25 params=0.33/12/10/1/10/10 float=y maxiter=200 inside=zmag decomp=256 colors=000fnr<12>IQVGOTGOU<12>8`j7al7al<14>hpukqvkpu<13>kbYlaWk`W<13>NKR\ LIQKIQ<14>5VV<15>jsw<13>HL_FJYFJYEIX<14>tlo<14>VKNTILSIL<14>AUO<15>esm<1\ 4>KHGIEDJGF<13>bgodjrciq<13>MSaKQ_LR`<14>iqu cyclerange=0/255 } steely_m { ; steely midget t= 0:02:37.25 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1998 by Les St Clair [Par date: May 16, 1998] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=dmj-mand-cr2-ang passes=t center-mag=0.337048/0.639754/19.29802/1.25 params=-6/0.5/4/1/4/4 float=y maxiter=200 inside=zmag decomp=256 colors=202642A82A46E86EC2IG2MK2MG6IC6I8AI4EM8EMCAQGAQCEUGEUKAUO6QK6QO2<2\ >a_2aW6YS6YOAYKEaOEaSAeWAeSEiWEi_Aic6e_6ec2ig2mk2mg6qk6qo2us2yw2ys6uo6uk\ AyoAykEugEqcEqgAmcA<2>mSMqWMq_IucIygIycMu_MuWQy_QyWUuSUqOUqSQmOQmKUiGUeC\ UeGQiKQiOMiSIeOIeKMaGMaKIYGIYCMY8QaCQa8UY4UY0Ya4Ya0aY4aY8eYCia8ia4ee0ee4\ ii0ii4ei8ae4ae8YiCYmGYmCaqGaqKYuOYySYyOauKauGeyKeyGiuCiq8iqCem8em4im0mm4\ qq0qq4mu8myCmy8qu4qu0uy4uy0yu4yq8yq4um8umCyiGyeKyeGuiCui8qi4me8meCqaGqaC\ mYGmYKqYOuaKuaOy<2>Q_yQWuUSuUOqUKmQOmQSqMWqMSmIWmI_qIcuM_uMcyIgyEkyEguAk\ uAoy6sy2wy2su6ou6kq2oq2km6gmAcmAgqEcq<2>ESeAWeA_i6ci2gi2ce6_e6Wa2_a2WY6S\ YAOYASaEOaEKYIGYMCYMGaIKaIOeISiMOiMKeQGeQKiUGiUCeU8aQCaQ8YU4YU0UQ4UQ0QU4\ QU8MUCIQ8IQ4MM0MM4II0II4MI8QM4QM8UICUEGUECQAGQAKU6OU2SU2OQ6KQ6GM2KM2GI6C\ IA8IACME8ME4IE0EE4AA0AA4E68E2CE28A64A606246 cyclerange=0/255 } cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint) Carlson formula pars Date: 17 May 1998 20:57:18 +0100 Hi kathy, >>"Basket_Weave" >>Les, I hope you don't mind me posting your par. Not at all, but I noticed that the aspect ratio has changed to 0.6:1 >>viewwindows=1/0.6/yes/0/0 Was this intentional? (it is also the way in which all of your most recent postings have been done) just checking! cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) LorentzM with FlexBalls Formula Date: 17 May 1998 15:18:18 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula applies my FlexBall rendering method to Oliver Klimek's LorentzM formula. Both of the pars are zooms into Oliver's LorentzM_03 par. Paul Carlson } frm:LorentzM_FB {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ;keep p1 between 0 and 1, <0.7 is best, negative values mirror ;Re(p1)=Im(p1) -> 0 converges to standard Mandel rotated by 90 ;Size increases with |p1| ; real(p2) = radius of center of ring (0.01 to 10) ; imag(p2) = one half thickness of ring (0.01 to real(p2)) ; real(p3) = bailout test value ; imag(p3) = iterations to skip c = pixel w = z = iter = bailout = 0 k = real(p2) d0 = k + imag(p2) test = real(p3) skip = imag(p3) d1 = 0.382683432365 * k d2 = 0.923879532511 * k dsqd = d0 * d0 + k * k - (d0 + d0) * d2: ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; Oliver Klimek's Lorentz equation (using w instead of z) w = sqrt(1 - (w * w) / (p1 * p1)) + c ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; IF ((abs(cabs(w) - k) < imag(p2)) && iter > skip) bailout = 1 wr = real(w), wi = imag(w) awr = abs(wr), awi = abs(wi) IF (awr >= awi) dist = (awr - d2)*(awr - d2) + (awi - d1)*(awi - d1) adjust = 1 ELSE dist = (awr - d1)*(awr - d1) + (awi - d2)*(awi - d2) adjust = 0 ENDIF IF (wr >= 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 1 - adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 2 + adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi < 0) range_num = 5 - adjust ELSE range_num = 6 + adjust ENDIF ratio = sqrt(dist / dsqd) z = 29 * ratio + range_num * 30 + 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < test } lorentz_brot { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:24:11.13, 1024x768, 60MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=lorzfb.frm formulaname=lorentzm_fb passes=t center-mag=-0.87709724048014150/+0.70571620673051020/5877.123\ /1/-112.999 params=0.5/0.45/0.1/0.06/8/50 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCG\ Gz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08000<13>000 } lorentz_brot2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:11:48.82, 1024x768, 60MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=lorzfb.frm formulaname=lorentzm_fb passes=t center-mag=-1.95545788583318400/+1.00095876009412100/244.3233\ /1/-168.5 params=0.5/0.45/1/0.04/8/25 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0LLzW0<28>c40zW0<28>c40zW0<28>c400zz<28>0CC0zz<28>0CC0\ zz<28>0CC0zz<28>0CCzW0<28>c40000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: RE: RE: (fractint) Newbie needs help Date: 17 May 1998 16:24:41 -0400 Right you are! That's not only the ol' math instructor in me coming out, but a reflection of my use of Paint programs. I like that size to work in. Cheers. Marie :) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Christian Strik Sent: Sunday, May 17, 1998 3:43 PM Marie Drozdis wrote: >I'll go back and reread your message. My last computer had the ET4000 >adapter which I used successfully with both Windows 3.1 and Win95. >Meanwhile, I hope someone with more technical knowledge will jump in with >some suggestions. It's a shame not to be able to view these in at least >600x800. Guess you mean 800x600. Fractint's got a lot of crazy vid modes, but 600x800 :-) Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: (fractint) Another Paul Carlson Formula Date: 17 May 1998 15:38:16 -0500 Lo Group, Taking the priviledge to post the formula and some of the pars which Paul shared with us on the chat channel, plus a few of my own pars for it. The comments are his, and it really is a fun formula. The Newbies out there will find that this formula is easy to use and will give some quick results. Enjoy Earl Simpson comment { This formula has no special mathematical significance - it's just fun to play with. Paul Carlson } Frm:Spir_Ang_Fnc {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; ; p1 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p2) = a factor controlling the width of the elememts ; imag(p2) = angle multiplier ; real(p3) = max. early bailout itreation ; imag(p3) = flag for extra squaring ; w = pixel c = p1 z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0 width = real(p2) k = imag(p2) num_ranges = 2 index_factor = 124 / width : w = w * w, wr = real(w), awr = abs(wr) w = w - wr + awr - c IF (imag(p3) == 1) w = w * w ENDIF a = k * atan(imag(w) / real(w)) a = a * a + c a = fn1(1 - a) / a ; dist = abs(|w| - |a|) IF (dist < width && iter > 1) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * 125 + 1 bailout = 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter (bailout == 0 && |w| < 4) || iter > real(p3) } asprsym1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=asprsymm.frm formulaname=Spir_Ang_Fnc function=recip passes=t center-mag=-0.490415/0.490407/19.50201/1/-44.999 params=0.690498547/0.192997741/0.3/2/15/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000Vzz<123>0GGz88<123>O00000<3>000 } asprsym2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=asprsymm.frm formulaname=Spir_Ang_Fnc function=sin passes=t center-mag=-0.575024/0.575024/15.40927/1/-44.999 params=0.690498547/0.192997741/0.1/1/15/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000W2<123>080zz0<123>aG0000<3>000 } asprsym3 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=asprsymm.frm formulaname=Spir_Ang_Fnc function=atan passes=1 center-mag=-0.458037/-0.455566/4.814895/1/-134.999 params=0.810594347/0.151767307/0.2/3/1.0e20/1 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ colors=400C0C<29>xUxzVzzVz<91>C0C0CC<48>UxxVzzVzz<72>0CC00000\ 0zzz000000 } asprsym4 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=asprsymm.frm formulaname=Spir_Ang_Fnc function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-0.36145684899277650/-0.40137990611518530/139.0008\ /1/-134.998 params=0.810594347/0.151767307/0.03/1/1.0e20/1 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG00W2<123>080000<3>000 espc0001 { ; Earl Simpson May 17, 1998 t=0:02:56.32 on 233PentI ; Paul Carlson's formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson4.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=recip passes=1 corners=-0.36247527/0.36247527/-1.780981/1.780981/-1.7611757/0.3653046 params=0.4274/-0.56482/0.1/2/15/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000Vzz<123>0GGz88<123>O00000<3>000 } espc0002 { ; Earl Simpson May 17, 1998 t=0:00:32.80 on 233PentI ; Paul Carlson's formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson4.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=ident passes=1 corners=-0.36247527/0.36247527/-1.780981/1.780981/-1.7611757/0.3653046 params=0.4274/-0.56482/0.1/2/15/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000Vzz<123>0GGz88<123>O00000<3>000 } espc0004 { ; Earl Simpson May 17, 1998 t=0:02:21.97 on 233PentI ; Paul Carlson formula ; Paul Carlson Map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson4.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=cos passes=1 corners=0.47297141/0.5976629/0.2249049/0.83756241/0.23239494/0.59406605 params=0.4274/-0.56482/0.1/2/15/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=@pc2004.map } espc0005 { ; Earl Simpson May 17, 1998 t= 0:03:09.06 on 233PentI ; Paul Carlson formula ; Paul Carlson Map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson4.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=cos passes=1 corners=-0.98711497/-0.27867835/0.70783438/0.55846562/-0.70758104/0.2789\ 317 params=0.6204985469999998/-0.192997741/0.3/2/15/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000Vzz<123>0GGz88<123>O00000<3>000 } espc0006 { ; Earl Simpson May 17, 1998 t= 0:02:54.72 on 233PentI ; Paul Carlson formula ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson4.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=cos passes=1 corners=-0.98867872/-0.26420489/0.69336092/0.56002937/-0.69310758/0.2644\ 5824 params=0.6204985469999998/-0.192997741/0.3/2/15/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=SScAIL<12>SpwUszTqw<16>234000000<4>000000211422<2>818A0AB1B<33>xx\ uzzwyyv<26>K88I66F55<3>000<2>000000112<3>336000437<21>JGTKHUKHT<8>ECKDBI\ CAHBAGB9FA8E<12>111000000000<2>00000000200500700A<26>mmz<8>WWgUUeQQa<11>\ 22D00A008<2>000<2>000000123<4>8FI } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Another Paul Carlson Formula Date: 17 May 1998 16:10:36 -0500 (CDT) Earl, Thanks for posting the formula that I distributed during the chat last night. Thanks also for the additional excellent pars! espc0002 is my favorite, but they're all great. espc0004 is missing the map file, but I used the cyan-red colormap which looked very nice with it. I think the file that I sent you must have gotten truncated because the ending curly bracket is missing from my fourth par and my fifth and sixth pars are also gone in your posting so I'm sending the whole thing here. comment { This formula has no special mathematical significance - it's just fun to play with. Paul Carlson } frm:Spir_Ang_Fnc {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; ; p1 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p2) = a factor controlling the width of the elememts ; imag(p2) = angle multiplier ; real(p3) = max. early bailout itreation ; imag(p3) = flag for extra squaring ; w = pixel c = p1 z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0 width = real(p2) k = imag(p2) num_ranges = 2 index_factor = 124 / width : w = w * w, wr = real(w), awr = abs(wr) w = w - wr + awr - c IF (imag(p3) == 1) w = w * w ENDIF a = k * atan(imag(w) / real(w)) a = a * a + c a = fn1(1 - a) / a ; dist = abs(|w| - |a|) IF (dist < width && iter > 1) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * 125 + 1 bailout = 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter (bailout == 0 && |w| < 4) || iter > real(p3) } asprsym1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=asprsymm.frm formulaname=Spir_Ang_Fnc function=recip passes=t center-mag=-0.490415/0.490407/19.50201/1/-44.999 params=0.690498547/0.192997741/0.3/2/15/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000Vzz<123>0GGz88<123>O00000<3>000 } asprsym2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=asprsymm.frm formulaname=Spir_Ang_Fnc function=sin passes=t center-mag=-0.575024/0.575024/15.40927/1/-44.999 params=0.690498547/0.192997741/0.1/1/15/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000W2<123>080zz0<123>aG0000<3>000 } asprsym3 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=asprsymm.frm formulaname=Spir_Ang_Fnc function=atan passes=1 center-mag=-0.458037/-0.455566/4.814895/1/-134.999 params=0.810594347/0.151767307/0.2/3/1.0e20/1 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ colors=400C0C<29>xUxzVzzVz<91>C0C0CC<48>UxxVzzVzz<72>0CC00000\ 0zzz000000 } asprsym4 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=asprsymm.frm formulaname=Spir_Ang_Fnc function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-0.36145684899277650/-0.40137990611518530/139.0008\ /1/-134.998 params=0.810594347/0.151767307/0.03/1/1.0e20/1 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG00W2<123>080000<3>000 } asprsym5 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=asprsymm.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=cosxx passes=t center-mag=-0.401911/0.401911/3.07377/1/-45 params=0.690498547/0.192997741/0.1/1/1e+020/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000Vzz<123>0GGz88<123>O00000<3>000 } asprsym6 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=asprsymm.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=cosxx center-mag=-0.494858/0.494858/53.55682/1/-45 params=0.690498547/0.192997741/0.1/1/1e+020/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Having a wonderful time! Date: 17 May 1998 14:23:15 -0700 Mike and Linda Allison wrote: > > I'm still having a great time using Mark "Bud" Christenson's gravijul > formulas. I found all of these using a variation of gravijul.frm. > > Enjoy! > Linda Linda.... Good to see you having fun.....here's what I came up with from your formula plus a few other things based on recent postings to the list..... deep_in_my_heart { ; (c) A Wilczynski May 17, 1998 t= 0:00:16.86 on 266 PII ; from a Linda Allison formula w. d-wine2.map (new) ; color map modified from an LA original reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=may98.frm formulaname=grav-lla function=log/acosh/recip center-mag=0.339769/0.00567023/1.378624/1.4851/-90 params=1/-1/4/-4 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 logmode=fly decomp=256 colors=q9N<12>Q0EO0EN0E<6>C0BA0A808<2>202000000<3>000000101112<2>3253264\ 37548<20>JGTKHUKHT<8>ECKDBICAHBAGB9FA8E<12>111000000000<3>00010330650A<2\ 5>foxhrzgqy<24>84E72C629416213000000000<3>G88KAAMCB<16>wmU<11>TIFQFDNCCK\ 9AG88<3>000<3>000000201402000603804B06<10>M0AN0AO0AP0AR0B<21>wAPuAPs9O cyclerange=0/255 } heart_over { ; (c) A Wilczynski May 17, 1998 t= 0:00:48.67 on 266 PII ; from a Linda Allison formula ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=may98.frm formulaname=grav-lla function=log/acosh/recip center-mag=-1.41091/-1.22152/5.383135/1/-90 params=1/-1/4/-4 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 logmode=fly decomp=256 colors=BQb<4>`Fw<6>94R53M34H16C077355633A00<11>e00<6>ww0<5>h80e00a00<7>7\ 00000000000BGJ<10>0oz<7>0CD07700000000093F<10>w4R<8>C0270000000000000F<4\ >0J80M62P9<9>Uvc<9>3L80H40E50A6077255433700<8>R00U00V27<5>_Do`Fw_CnY9a<6\ >N02J03H03F04C05<27>51F41G41G32H42J43K53M58M5IN<8>5xPAoN<4>0KA<7>KKU<11>\ 289077099<8>0UU5SY cyclerange=0/255 } x_marks_the_spot { ; (c) A Wilczynski May 17, 1998 t= 0:00:45.26 on 266 PII ; from a Linda Allison formula ; redhot3.map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=may98.frm formulaname=grav-lla function=log/log/recip center-mag=0.77263/-0.563233/4.844961 params=2/-2/4/-4 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 logmode=fly invert=1/0/0 decomp=256 colors=Y2Q<8>O2JM3IK3JI4KJ6L<10>m09<15>L5B<17>z0J<15>K0J<7>wK0<14>yt0zw0\ yv0<20>aL1<4>A01<13>T06U06W07Y08<4>g0Ci0Dj0Dk0E<2>q0Gs0Hs3G<14>zz0vv0<8>\ NF6JA7F58A09A09A1A<13>AAJDAJ<12>hAIjAImAJ<8>K09<5>MIXNM`MKY<3>I9KH6GI6H<\ 11>c2T<4>Z2Q cyclerange=0/255 } in_the_clover { ; (c) A Wilczynski May 17, 1998 t= 0:00:43.46 on 266 PII ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=ca03 function=abs center-mag=1.07294/-1.07294/0.02852005/1/-45 params=0.5/-0.1/1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 outside=atan logmode=fly invert=1/0/0 colors=000pnd<10>NIHKEA<15>zpa<16>K0A<15>zK_<15>A2K<5>95E85D86C77A77C<4>\ G5JI4LJ6M<10>_Yfa_hcbjeelghn<15>zzz<15>OI5<2>VOBXQD_TFbVH<9>zpa<15>0KA<1\ 5>Azc<14>2CF18D26B339406604802A00<22>s0Iu0Ju3K<13>yvkzzmxwkutirqg } hot_spiral { ; (c) A Wilczynski May 17, 1998 t= 0:00:56.58 on 266 PII ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=ca03 function=flip center-mag=-0.825924/0.726836/3.183041/1/135 params=0.11/-0.2/1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 outside=atan logmode=fly invert=1/0/0 colors=0bG<8>0J20G00F0<12>120110201302<23>L1FM1GN1HO2IO2J<14>w12z00z20<2\ 3>zz0<21>z30z00x01<13>R1HO2JN2I<14>000101000201<14>C09D09E0AF0BF0BG0C<5>\ L1FM1GN1HO2IO2J<29>11x00z01y<28>0vX<2>0rS0qQ0oO0mN<3>0dH cyclerange=0/255 } Angela aka wizzle Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) LorentzM with FlexBalls Formula Date: 17 May 1998 14:40:44 -0700 Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote: > > comment { > This formula applies my FlexBall rendering method to Oliver > Klimek's LorentzM formula. Both of the pars are zooms into > Oliver's LorentzM_03 par. > > Paul Carlson Very nice Paul!!!!! Here is a quick zoom on your first par that somehow reminds me of lotus blossoms along the Nile.... pharohs_vision { ; (c) A Wilczynski May 17, 1998 t= 0:03:03.66 on 266 PII ; from a Paul Carlson Formula ; flx-blk4.map reset=1960 type=formula formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=recip center-mag=-0.50104794656021120/+0.45599825929005260/43.97789/1/2.499 params=0.690498547/0.192997741/0.3/2/15/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000K0z<28>005000<28>0000wz<28>0AK000<28>000fAz<28>K0F000<28>000zz\ a<28>SAK000<43>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Calc method Date: 17 May 1998 14:51:55 -0700 Tim Wegner wrote: > > Have no fear, the fractal-art list has been rehosted and has a new administrator. > The new administrator is Damien Jones, and the new address is > fractal-art@icd.com. Members of the old list have automatically been moved to > the new address. > > Jim and Jay are welcome to post the "fractal of the day" and "fractal of the > night" here, but personally I think it is better the way it is. Their postings are > more visible in that quieter forum. > > I'd entertain suggestions for splitting this forum to make it work better for > members. Should we consider a PAR and FRM only list, and another for > questions and discussion? The truck is splitting the forum in such a way that > one doesn't have all the traffic. > > Tim > > Thank you Damien!!!!!!!!!! And good suggestion Tim.......but where to put what??? The number of pars posted has certainly increased dramatically......I was looking at Les' site.....there were just 50 or so pars posted last September. But for me getting the frm's and checking out everyone's pars is enormously helpful. Just as helpful as questions about Fractint itself. And I have one for the list. REady????? On what basis do you folks choose the among the calculation methods available in the basic options?? I recall you all said g doesn't always bring out the true intentions of the artist. But why chose t over....say 2? Angela aka wizzle Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Another Paul Carlson Formula Date: 17 May 1998 16:42:32 -0500 -----Original Message----- >Earl, > >Thanks for posting the formula that I distributed during >the chat last night. Thanks also for the additional >excellent pars! espc0002 is my favorite, but they're all >great. espc0004 is missing the map file, but I used the >cyan-red colormap which looked very nice with it. > >I think the file that I sent you must have gotten truncated >because the ending curly bracket is missing from my fourth >par and my fifth and sixth pars are also gone in your posting >so I'm sending the whole thing here. > --------------------------snipped------------------------------------------- ---------------------- Paul, Poor job of cut and paste :(( Here is espc0004 with colormap : espc0004 { ; Earl Simpson May 17, 1998 t= 0:02:17.59 on 233PentI ; Paul Carlson formula ; Paul Carlson Map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson4.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=cos passes=1 corners=0.47297141/0.5976629/0.2249049/0.83756241/0.23239494/0.59406605 params=0.4274/-0.56482/0.1/2/15/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } Earl Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Having a wonderful time! Date: 17 May 1998 16:45:53 -0500 -----Original Message----- >I'm still having a great time using Mark "Bud" Christenson's gravijul >formulas. I found all of these using a variation of gravijul.frm. > >Enjoy! >Linda Linda, Superb as usual. Only complaint I have is that we do not get mail from you often enough. Earl Simpson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Having a wonderful time! Date: 17 May 1998 16:45:53 -0500 -----Original Message----- >I'm still having a great time using Mark "Bud" Christenson's gravijul >formulas. I found all of these using a variation of gravijul.frm. > >Enjoy! >Linda Linda, Superb as usual. Only complaint I have is that we do not get mail from you often enough. Earl Simpson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) one last formula today Date: 17 May 1998 16:50:28 -0500 (CDT) This will be the last formula I post today (I promise!). The thing is, my wife left at 4:30 AM this morning on a bird watching trip, leaving me without a car. And my computer was sitting there looking lonesome, so I've been keeping it company since then, for the past 11 hours. comment { Run the coshm3 par first. With that image on the screen run the four colormap pars. I'm interested in which set of colors you think looks best with this image Paul Carlson } frm:Trans_Atan_Mset {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 z = prev_w = bailout = iter = range_num = 0 c = pixel max_real = real(p1) num_ranges = real(p2) colors_in_range = imag(p2): ;**************************************************** w = fn1(prev_w) + c ;**************************************************** IF (abs(real(w)) > max_real) angle = abs(atan((imag(w)-imag(prev_w))/(real(w)-real(prev_w)))) bailout = 1 z = colors_in_range * (2 * angle / pi + range_num) + 1 ENDIF prev_w = w range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 } coshm3 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tranatan.frm formulaname=trans_atan_mset function=cosh passes=t corners=3.455160086/3.429976712/1.640034035/1.66362504\ 9/3.434770385/1.667220303 params=16/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<108>aG0aG0aG0aG0aG0<10>aG0zVz<108>G0GG0G\ G0GG0GG0G<10>G0G000<3>000 } gold_green { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 colors=000zz0<123>aG00W2<123>080000<3>000 } silver_blue { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 colors=000GGz<123>00Ozzz<123>OOO000<3>000 } silver_magenta { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 colors=000zzz<123>OOOzVz<123>C0C000<3>000 } silver_gold { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrej.Lajovic@guest.arnes.si Subject: (fractint) raytracing and fractint Date: 17 May 1998 13:55:23 +0000 Hello! I'm quite a new user and some days ago I discovered, that Fractint can output a file for raytracing program. I read a help file about that and decided to get a Pov-Ray program (I spent a lot of time downloading it from internet - the setup file "weights" 4 megs!). In Fractint's help file is written that a raw2pov file converter is included in setup file (or something like that), but I can't found it anywhere. So I tried to download it from internet. Bad luck - now I've got three or four converters and none of it is working properly. If you have a raw2pov converter or even know where to get it, please mail_me. Thanks! Andrej P.S.:Just one more request: My age is 14 and I'm still learning English, so, please, tell me if something is written wrong. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) LorentzM with FlexBalls Formula Date: 17 May 1998 16:59:35 -0500 (CDT) Wiz... >Here is a quick zoom on your first par that somehow reminds me of >lotus blossoms along the Nile.... > >pharohs_vision { ; (c) A Wilczynski May 17, 1998 t= 0:03:03.66 on Wow! You wizzled that one real good - beautiful! It sure does have an Egyptian flavor to it. Note to others: Wizzle's par does not go with the subject formula, it goes with the one Earl posted. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mctupper" Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 17 May 1998 16:56:50 -0600 >On what basis do you folks choose the among the calculation methods available in >the basic options?? I recall you all said g doesn't always bring out the true >intentions of the artist. But why chose t over....say 2? > >Angela aka wizzle First of all I would like to say that I am new to this list, but I am having a lot of fun checking out everybodys fractals. I've been playing around with Fractint since version 16 or so. My first fractal was the classic Mandelbrot generated on a 286, using a program written in Pascal. It took over an hour to generate! Boy do I love today's faster machines, and better programs. I don't know about others but for me, I prefer to use boundary. I enjoy watching the fractal being generated almost as much as seeing the final product. Tesseract is almost as much fun to watch. Below is a little thing I have being playing with. I got the map from somebody's web page, but I don't know who it was. I just love the metallic colors. :) MetalComplexNewton { ; complexnewton using black metal colors ; Modified from Fractal Creations _Spiral reset=1960 type=julia passes=b corners=-0.636397958/-0.228941023/0.455980599/0.00159561634/-0.271623909\ /-0.0303604007 params=0.296665/0.000409836 maxiter=32568 inside=epsiloncross outside=real decomp=256 colors=@blackmet.map } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) 3Way Gedeon's Euler Formula Date: 17 May 1998 18:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Okay, I broke my promise. It's been 13 hours now and my wife is still out chasing birds. Their goal was 100 species in one day and they're probably on the other side of Colorado stuck on number 99. Anyhow, I've started playing with Gedeon's excellent Euler fomulas and pars and here's a couple of results. They execute very quickly. comment { This formula applies my 3Way rendering method to the first of Gedeon's Euler formulas. The two pars are zooms into two of Gedeons pars, gp-eul01-06 and gpeul01-09. Try color-cycling the first image. Paul Carlson } frm:Euler_3Way {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; real(p3) = escape circle radius squared ; imag(p3) = number of iterations to skip z = iter = k = range_num = bailout = 0 w = fn1(pixel) prev_modw2 = 1.0e20 rad2 = real(p3) skip_ters = imag(p3) num_ranges = 8 colors_in_range = 30 colors_in_range_1 = colors_in_range - 1: ; ;;;;;;;;;; Gedeon's Euler equation ;;;;;;;;;;;;; w=fn2(w^p1) + p2 * fn3(exp(imag(w) * pi) + 1) ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; IF ((prev_modw2 < rad2) && (|w| > rad2)) bailout = 1 IF (iter > skip_iters) k = 1 ENDIF index = colors_in_range_1 * (rad2 - prev_modw2) / rad2 z = (index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1) * k ENDIF prev_modw2 = |w| range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| <= rad2 } 3w-eul01-06 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:00:51.02, 1024x768, 60MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=g_euler.frm formulaname=euler_3way function=ident/log/acos passes=t center-mag=-0.031481/0.0418473/0.444249/1/17.5 params=5/0/0.32/0/16/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000ss0vv0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eNxfO\ zeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O00c40<14>xU0zW0yU0\ <11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<12>0pp000<13>000 cyclerange=1/240 } 3w-eul01-09 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:01:05.31, 1024x768, 60MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=g_euler.frm formulaname=euler_3way function=ident/acosh/flip passes=t center-mag=4.44089e-016/-0.355799/0.6598075/1/180 params=8/0/0.3333333/0/32/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15>0zR<\ 12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeN\ w<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O00000<13>000 cyclerange=1/240 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) test post ignore Date: 17 May 1998 19:47:56 -0400 (EDT) This is a test. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: (fractint) Re: Another Paul Carlson Formula -- More Pars Date: 17 May 1998 18:50:04 -0500 Paul, I understand. It hard to stop when you are having fun, and I am having fun with the spir_ang_fnc formula. One more batch of pars from it for today. Angela -- need more great color maps to match this formula. :-) Enjoy, Earl Simpson espc0019 { ; Earl Simpson May 17, 1998 t= 0:00:55.36 on 233PentI ; Paul Carlson Formula ; Wizzle color map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson3.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=exp passes=1 corners=-0.501588863/-0.38941197/0.451454183/0.439907076/-0.451273971/0.\ 389592183 params=0.6905498547/0.192997741/0.48/2/1.5e+018/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=804C06402000<2>000000123<18>SpwUszTqw<16>234000000<4>000000211<3>\ B56A0A<34>xxuzzwyyv<29>FA2D80B60<3>000<5>336000437<21>JGTKHUKHT<8>ECKDBI\ CAHBAGB9FA8E<12>111000000000<3>000<2>A05D06F27<5>REITGKVILWJM<12>tggviix\ kkzmmyllwjj<23>G08 } espc0020 { ; Earl Simpson May 17, 1998 t= 0:03:44.81 on 233PentI ; Paul Carlson Formula ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson4.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=log passes=1 corners=-0.510150194/-0.406063378/0.463609815/0.452922523/-0.463450432/0\ .406222761 params=0.6905498547/0.192997741/0.48/2/1.5e+018/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=850000<3>000000211<4>D67F79H8AKACLBD<30>vuiwvjxxkzzmyylwwj<24>KC2\ IA0G90D80B60630320000<2>223224224325326<22>JGTKHUKHT<5>HENGEMFDLECKDBI<1\ 0>647546435334323222111<6>000<6>U05<21>xfazhcygb<22>U05<5>000<2>00000012\ 3<3>7CF8FIAILBLOCNR<11>Usz<13>8FI7CE59B467234000000 } espc0021 { ; Earl Simpson May 17, 1998 t= 0:00:44.16 on 233PentI ; Paul Carlson Formula ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson4.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=sqr passes=1 corners=-0.510150194/-0.406063378/0.463609815/0.452922523/-0.463450432/0\ .406222761 params=0.6905498547/0.192997741/0.48/2/1.5e+018/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=850ERV<7>234000000<4>000000211<4>D67F79H8AKACLBD<30>vuiwvjxxkzzmy\ ylwwj<24>KC2IA0G90D80B60630320000<2>223224224325326<22>JGTKHUKHT<5>HENGE\ MFDLECKDBI<10>647546435334323222111<6>000<6>U05<21>xfazhcygb<22>U05<5>00\ 0<2>000000123<3>7CF8FIAILBLOCNR<11>Usz<8>GUY } espc0022 { ; Earl Simpson May 17, 1998 t= 0:01:04.48 on 233PentI ; Paul Carlson Formula ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson4.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=recip passes=1 corners=-0.510617971/-0.406531155/0.464077592/0.4533903/-0.463918209/0.4\ 06690538 params=0.6905498547/0.192997741/0.48/2/1.5e+018/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=850SpwUsz<13>8FI7CE59B467234000<5>000000211<4>D67F79H8AKACLBD<30>\ vuiwvjxxkzzmyylwwj<24>KC2IA0G90D80B60630320000<2>223224224325326<22>JGTK\ HUKHT<5>HENGEMFDLECKDBI<10>647546435334323222111<6>000<6>U05<21>xfazhcyg\ b<22>U05<5>000<2>000000123<3>7CF8FIAILBLOCNR<9>Rmt } espc0023 { ; Earl Simpson May 17, 1998 t= 0:00:46.68 on 233PentI ; Paul Carlson Formula ; Wizzle Color Map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson4.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=cos passes=1 corners=-0.510617971/-0.406531155/0.464077592/0.4533903/-0.463918209/0.4\ 06690538 params=0.6905498547/0.192997741/0.48/2/1.5e+018/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000d9v<26>K0E000<28>000zz`<28>SAJ000<43>000K0y<27>106004000<28>00\ 00wy<28>0AJ000<28>000fAyeAw } espc0024 { ; Earl Simpson May 17, 1998 t= 0:00:42.41 on 233PentI ; Paul Carlson Formula ; Wizzle Color Map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson4.frm formulaname=spir_ang_fnc function=tan passes=1 corners=-0.510617971/-0.406531155/0.464077592/0.4533903/-0.463918209/0.4\ 06690538 params=0.6905498547/0.192997741/0.48/2/1.5e+018/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000c9r<24>K0E000<28>000zz`<28>SAJ000<43>000K0y<27>106004000<28>00\ 00wy<28>0AJ000<28>000fAy<2>d9t } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) Similar attitudes -- fourth attempt Date: 17 May 1998 20:32:23 -0400 (EDT) I've been trying to get this letter posted all afternoon, with no success. If this attempt fails, I'll consider the letter jinxed. It's a little bit outdated now anyway. At 11:07 PM 5/16/98 +0100, Oliver Klimek wrote: >It is always sad to see a mailing list or a newsgroup die. I >have only subscribed to fractint a couple of days ago and was >pondering if I should also subscribe to F.A. The "Fractal-Art" list has been saved by Damien Jones. So go ahead and subscribe. The traffic on the list is much less than on the Fractint list, and every day in my FOTD I have a few words to say about things such as fractals, the fourth dimension, quantum mechanics and the nature of existence, etc. And you won't believe the fractal adventures of Jay Hill's Doctor J. and his blushing bride, Doctor E. >It is really a strange coincidence that in my first couple of >posts to this list I described my own attitude towards >fractals in *exactly* the same way as you, including "Fractal >Trek". If you haven't read my posts yet, read them and smile. >If you have, shouldn't you have considered quoting me ? I thought you had read *my* past posts and were quoting me. Apparently we feel the same about fractals. I don't try to create great works of fractal art, nor do I try to reach new levels of mathematical cleverness; I simply enjoy exploring the abstract yet strangely real world of fractals. I too prefer short, simple formulas and inside=0. I keep my use of skewing, stretching and rotating, as well as the fancy outside and inside coloring options, to a minimum. IMO, there is only one supreme fractal -- the four-dimensional figure known as the Z^2+C Julibrot, which includes as sub-sets the classic Mandelbrot set, all the perturbed Mandelbrot sets and all the Julia sets. The things I do to the Julibrot shouldn't be done to a dog. In addition to exploring the Mandelbrot and Julia sets, I frequently explore the four other perpendicular families of sets that the Z^2+C formula can create. I have named these four other families of sets, "Oblate Sets", "Parabolic Sets", Rectangular Sets, and "Elliptic Sets". (Today's FOTD will be a Rectangular set image.) I also frequently explore the oblique slices of the Julibrot. >So it is obvious that I fully agree with you. But I can >already see a possible Frac Trek list going down the drain the >same way as F.A. because there is just too much overlap. There will be no Frac-Trek list, because Fractal-Art is not going down the drain. >IMO it will all come down to fractint being the one and only >fractal list. Not for some considerable time yet, I presume. Fractint is a great fractal program, but it is not the only fractal program. The number of fractal-related lists as well as fractal programs can only grow in the next several years. There are many specialized applications of fractals that could support a mailing list. And as the internet grows, all specialty lists will become more viable. That's it for now. I'll check your just-posted frms and pars, and give my report. See you in fractal land. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) another Gedeon Euler formula Date: 17 May 1998 19:33:44 -0500 (CDT) The bird watching crew just stopped by to use the bathroom. They are at 85 species so it's going to be a while. In the meantime, here's another of Gedeon's Euler formulas. comment { This formula applies my 3Way rendering method to the second of Gedeon's Euler formulas. The two pars are modifications of two of Gedeons pars, gp-eul02-05 and gp_eul02-06. These pars execute very quickly. Paul Carlson } frm:Euler2_3Way {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; real(p3) = escape circle radius squared ; imag(p3) = number of iterations to skip z = iter = k = range_num = bailout = 0 w = fn1(pixel) prev_modw2 = 1.0e20 rad2 = real(p3) skip_ters = imag(p3) num_ranges = 8 colors_in_range = 30 colors_in_range_1 = colors_in_range - 1: ; ;;;;;;;;;; Gedeon's Euler2 equation ;;;;;;;;;;;;; w=fn2(w^p1) + p2 * fn3(exp(imag(w) * pi) - 1) ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; IF ((prev_modw2 < rad2) && (|w| > rad2)) bailout = 1 IF (iter > skip_iters) k = 1 ENDIF index = colors_in_range_1 * (rad2 - prev_modw2) / rad2 z = (index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1) * k ENDIF prev_modw2 = |w| range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| <= rad2 } 3w-eul02-05 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:00:48.94, 1024x768, 60MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=g_euler2.frm formulaname=euler2_3way function=ident/log/asin passes=t center-mag=-0.00262146/-0.015462/0.5946586/1.2858 params=21/0/0.21/0/64/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15>0zR<\ 12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeN\ w<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O00000<13>000 } 3w-eul02-06 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:01:20.63, 1024x768, 60MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=g_euler2.frm formulaname=euler2_3way function=sqr/log/asinh passes=t center-mag=0.001899/0.00980135/0.4541629/1.2858 params=17/0/1.11/0/2048/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eNxf\ OzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O00000<13>000c40<1\ 4>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15>0zR<12>0C4 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Another Paul Carlson Formula -- More Pars Date: 17 May 1998 19:48:05 -0500 (CDT) Earl, >I understand. It hard to stop when you are having fun, and I am >having fun with the spir_ang_fnc formula. Great! I'd be having a little more fun if I'd gotten more than 4 hours sleep last night - up at 4 AM to have breakfast with the bird watcher. Anyhow, the images from your pars are beautiful! Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint) food for thought\tools of expression Date: 17 May 1998 20:48:41 EDT Food for thought: The formula, a tool surely. To what purpose? Expression of ??? Whatever one chooses??? Sometimes (for me) it can be so subconscious that the intention is not known. Free association takes over. A glimpse of a shape and my direction changes. I search to uncover something I see....in the formula....on the screen...or in the depths of my being? The good tools allow me to go deep....not into the screen...but into self. The subconscious...the unknown. (thanks you frm writers) Its very subjective and personal. And I beging to wonder. What is possible within the original intention of the composition of the frm? At its best....it might be to allow endless possibilities. To allow the shapes of the human subconscious to become seen by physical eyes. To allow ones vision to be shared with an other, and in doing so create connection, showing our common ground our common spirit our deepest fears and longings, and our highest potential for bliss...for love....for shareing.....ideas ....and visions. ~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~ Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pat Bodine" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Another Paul Carlson Formula -- More Pars Date: 17 May 1998 20:16:13 -0500 Hello. My name is Patrick Bodine and I have been lurking in the background for quite a while. I am a long time user of fractint but I have never inputted my own parameters. Frankly I don't know how. I never knew you could until I subscribed to this list. I have however saved and printed as many as I could hoping that sometime in the future they could be accessed. I first purchased the book with the program many years ago and have just been zooming in . I later bought the cd and also just went a-zooming along blissfully ignorant of the possibilities. It has been a long time since the old Commodore days when I would start a picture, go to bed, and see it the next day! If you could just find the time to send me some instructions, I would greatly appreciate it. I seem to have misplaced my book (it is probably in storage somewhere). I also downloaded the latest version but it also has eluded my understanding.Again any help would be greatly appreciated. THANKS -----Original Message----- >Earl, > >>I understand. It hard to stop when you are having fun, and I am >>having fun with the spir_ang_fnc formula. > >Great! I'd be having a little more fun if I'd gotten more than >4 hours sleep last night - up at 4 AM to have breakfast with the >bird watcher. > >Anyhow, the images from your pars are beautiful! > >Paul Carlson > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Another Paul Carlson Formula -- More Pars Date: 17 May 1998 20:36:54 -0500 -----Original Message----- Patrick wrote, >Hello. My name is Patrick Bodine and I have been lurking in the backgrou= nd >for quite a while. I am a long time user of fractint but I have never >inputted my own parameters. Frankly I don't know how. I never knew you could >until I subscribed to this list << snipped>> Patrick, I am somewhat of a newbie myself, therefore not of much use in answering your question. Hopefully you have the latest copy of Fractint, if not you can download i= t at the following site: FractInt At Spanky =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html Mirror site =97 http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fractint.html FractInt Documentation =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/findex.html Once you have it installed, start the program then press F1 TWICE which w= ill get you to the Main Help Index. There are instructions there on how to print the documentation for Fracti= nt. (Roughly 200 pages), but then you will have a ready source for informatio= n. This is the best advice I have to offer you. Lots of luck and hopefully will we see some of your pars shortly. Earl Simpson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: (fractint) A coupl'a pars... Date: 18 May 1998 00:06:36 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BD81F0.D34B3F20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01BD81F0.D352E040" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01BD81F0.D352E040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I came up with these pars wheil looking at the standard Mandelbrot set = with an inversion radius of 2... It looks alot different with summ = instead of iter for the outside color... The first one's a short zoom = in, the second one's a little farther. They draw pretty fast (about 20 = sec's), but I recommend a high res screen (at least for the first one :) = ) Peter Gavin // End transmission Singularity { ; Wild interference pattern caused by very, very = large ; values of z after their escape. reset=3D1960 type=3Dmandel passes=3D3 center-mag=3D0/0/40 params=3D0/0 = float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm invert=3D2/0/0 symmetry=3Dnone = colors=3D000<14>j0j<15>000<15>zzz<15>000<15>vf0<15>000<14>0Lg0Nj0Mh<14>00= 0\ <15>z00<15>000<78>n0nz0z<15>000 } 80's Hair { ; Use Solid-Guessing or 2- or 3-pass mode. ; You can see come kind of layers, the the 'scales' = on ; hair. reset=3D1960 type=3Dmandel center-mag=3D-0.01278605408927992/-0.00305962190352021/73637.7 params=3D0/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm = invert=3D2/0/0 symmetry=3Dnone = colors=3D000<14>j0j<15>000<15>zzz<15>000<15>vf0<15>000<14>0Lg0Nj0Mh<14>00= 0\ <15>z00<15>000<79>z0z<15>000 } ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01BD81F0.D352E040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I=20 came up with these pars wheil looking at the standard Mandelbrot set = with an=20 inversion radius of 2... It looks alot different with = summ=20 instead of iter for the outside color... The first one's a short = zoom in,=20 the second one's a little farther. They draw pretty fast (about 20 = sec's),=20 but I recommend a high res screen (at least for the first one :) =20 )

Peter Gavin
<pgavin@mindspring.com>
// End transmission

Singularity { ; Wild=20 interference pattern caused by very, very=20 large
&nbs= p; =20 ; values of z after their escape.
reset=3D1960 type=3Dmandel = passes=3D3=20 center-mag=3D0/0/40 params=3D0/0 float=3Dy
maxiter=3D256 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm invert=3D2/0/0=20 symmetry=3Dnone
=20 colors=3D000<14>j0j<15>000<15>zzz<15&g= t;000<15>vf0<15>000<14>0Lg0Nj0Mh<14>000\
= ;=20 <15>z00<15>000<78>n0nz0z<15>000
= }

80's=20 Hair          { ; Use=20 Solid-Guessing or 2- or 3-pass=20 mode.
          &nbs= p;         =20 ; You can see come kind of layers, the the 'scales'=20 on
           &= nbsp;        =20 ; hair.
reset=3D1960 type=3Dmandel
=20 center-mag=3D-0.01278605408927992/-0.00305962190352021/73637.7
= params=3D0/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm=20 invert=3D2/0/0
symmetry=3Dnone
=20 colors=3D000<14>j0j<15>000<15>zzz<15>000<15>= ;vf0<15>000<14>0Lg0Nj0Mh<14>000\
=20 <15>z00<15>000<79>z0z<15>000
= }

------=_NextPart_001_0002_01BD81F0.D352E040-- ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BD81F0.D34B3F20 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="SNGLARTY.PAR" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="SNGLARTY.PAR" Singularity { ; Wild interference pattern caused by very, very = large ; values of z after their escape. reset=3D1960 type=3Dmandel passes=3D3 center-mag=3D0/0/40 params=3D0/0 = float=3Dy maxiter=3D65536 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm invert=3D2/0/0 = symmetry=3Dnone periodicity=3D0 = colors=3D000<14>j0j<15>000<15>zzz<15>000<15>vf0<15>000<14>0Lg0Nj0Mh<14>00= 0\ <15>z00<15>000<78>n0nz0z<15>000 } 80's Hair { ; Use Solid-Guessing or 2- or 3-pass mode. ; You can see come kind of layers, the the 'scales' = on ; hair. reset=3D1960 type=3Dmandel center-mag=3D-0.01278605408927992/-0.00305962190352021/73637.7 params=3D0/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D65536 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm = invert=3D2/0/0 symmetry=3Dnone periodicity=3D0 = colors=3D000<14>j0j<15>000<15>zzz<15>000<15>vf0<15>000<14>0Lg0Nj0Mh<14>00= 0\ <15>z00<15>000<79>z0z<15>000 } ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BD81F0.D34B3F20-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Irwin" Subject: Re: (fractint) Pixel Counting Date: 18 May 1998 01:25:50 +0000 > Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 09:26:58 -0700 (PDT) > From: "James R. McKenzie" > Subject: Re: (fractint) Pixel Counting > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Reply-to: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Paint Shop Pro counts colors, so does Graphic Workshop for Windows. > > Both are available in 16 - Bit and 32 - Bit Windows versions. You > should be able to find them on any Shareware repositiory. > Thanks James. I downloaded - and discarded!! - both of these programs. Paint Shop Pro came the closest by offering a Histogram of red, green and blue content but what I am looking for is something which will count the actual occurences of individual colours in a graphic by pixel count. It will require a program that analyses each pixel in the graphic and counts the occurence of each colour in the palette. Thanks James for your contribution. I hope someone can suggest something as described above. Dave in Toronto Dave Irwin Toronto Ontario Canada irwin@netcom.ca http://www.netcom.ca/~irwin Time is the THIRD Dimension Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) Fractal-art threatened... Date: 17 May 1998 22:59:43 -0700 --------------1793C0B10383014EA7FE50D7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim Wegner wrote: > I'd entertain suggestions for splitting this forum to make it work better > for > members. Should we consider a PAR and FRM only list, and another for > questions and discussion? The truck is splitting the forum in such a way > that > one doesn't have all the traffic. > > Tim > Hi. The volume is certainly high- if you go away for a few days it's sort of overwhelming. But I think this is a measure of how successful it is. I like the combination of pars and commentary on the same list. Some fractals can stand on their own as art, but very often it's interesting because someone says "This is what I was thinking about" or "I saw this and then found this" etc. I find it more interesting than people's web pages, although these have some very beautiful images. So I hope you keep the same format, and just hope most people are careful to post things of general interest. It's actually really nice- people are very varied in age, computer experience (generally inverse) and everything else so I hope you leave it as it is. --------------1793C0B10383014EA7FE50D7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim Wegner wrote:

I'd entertain suggestions for splitting this forum to make it work better
for 
members.  Should we consider a PAR and FRM only list, and another for 
questions and discussion? The truck is splitting the forum in such a way
that 
one doesn't have all the traffic.

Tim

Hi. The volume is certainly high- if you go away for a few days
it's sort of overwhelming. But I think this is a measure of how
successful it is. I like the combination of pars and commentary
on the same list. Some fractals can stand on their own as art, but
very often it's interesting because someone says "This is what I was
thinking about" or "I saw this and then found this" etc. I find it more
interesting than people's web pages, although these have some very beautiful
images. So I hope you keep the same format, and just hope most
people are careful to post things of general interest.
It's actually really nice- people are very varied in age, computer
experience (generally inverse) and everything else so I hope you leave it as
it is. --------------1793C0B10383014EA7FE50D7-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-art threatened... Date: 18 May 1998 07:28:12 -0500 (CDT) >So I hope you keep the same format, and just hope most >people are careful to post things of general interest. I agree with Kathy. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-art threatened... Date: 18 May 1998 08:30:57 -0500 -----Original Message----- >>So I hope you keep the same format, and just hope most >>people are careful to post things of general interest. > >I agree with Kathy. > >Paul Carlson > Ditto Earl Simpson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Having a wonderful time! Date: 18 May 1998 09:12:44 -0700 >Good to see you having fun.....here's what I came up with from your formula plus >a few other things based on recent postings to the list..... Nice, Angela! Heart_over is my favorite! Linda Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) birdwatching Date: 18 May 1998 12:56:01 -0400 Sometimes this list is the beneficiary of some odd confluence of events. Yesterday Joyce Carlson went birdwatching and left Paul at home. Gedeon -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) Paul Carlson frm and pars Date: 18 May 1998 13:05:16 -0400 Paul, You outdid yourself yesterday! Naturally I am delighted that you saw fit to "carlsonize" a couple of my formulas. In particular, however, I would like to comment on your "Satan." A very fine image it is. With a series of figures raising their arms in supplication, to paraphrase your comments, and finding ever more ominous figures looming in the background, this image well deserves to be elevated above some ordinary Halloween poster. Indeed, I venture to say, it is fit to be a modern frontispiece to Dante's Inferno, with the often quoted line as the caption: "All hope abandon, ye who enter here." Mind you, I am not suggesting that you were in _that_ gloomy mood yesterday! Gedeon -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 17, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: (fractint) Weekend Aftermath Date: 18 May 1998 13:05:30 -0400 Welp...this is what I get for not checking my email over the weekend(I was away). I still have tons of messages to sort out, and a bazillion pars to look at. They all sound very interesting though, so it should be fun :) Now, for the topics that I *have* read through... Fractals and Poetry- I haven't gotten a chance to see the par that you sent, Les, but from the discussion about it that I've seen it sounds like it may be the way to go. I'm very interested in FracText(or anything similar) if you do decide to post it on your page. You said that it may not work well for longer poems, but I doubt longer poems would fit on a fractal without interfering with the image anyway. I think my best bet would be to get a web page going, and use only a line or three from each poem on the fractal itself. Then I can include the full text next to the fractal. As far as getting this page up and running, it may take me a while. As Angela suggested, I want to read up on design etc. a bit more first. Also, I have a lot of other stuff that I want to include in addition to fractals(mostly humor and writing stuff). So it'll be a few weeks before I get everything together... Fractal chat- I'm really sorry I missed this. I'll definately try to stop in for the next one though...for me weekends aren't too good(at least not this month), but weekday afternoons(Eastern time) are great. Did anyone take a log of the last session? Maybe they could post some excerpts :) -RJ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) one last formula today Date: 18 May 1998 14:07:22 -0400 Hi Paul, >> Run the coshm3 par first. With that image on the screen run the four >> colormap pars. I'm interested in which set of colors you think looks >> best with this image Nice images! My favorite colormap is gold_green. Here are two colormaps: sg_coshm3-1 { ; Color plug-in for Paul Carlson's coshm3 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, May 18, 1998 ; colors=3D442svs<31>iogiogioghnfhnfgme<48>LRLLRKKQKKPK<20>9D99C98B87A779= 7<9\ >000zxn<6>yvkxvkxvkxvkxvj<44>keQjdPjdPicPicO<12>bXJbXJaWJaWJ`VI<40>B95A= 8\ 5985874863<4>442331432 } sg_coshm3-2 { ; Color plug-in for Paul Carlson's coshm3 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, May 18, 1998 ; colors=3D442qxz<58>G_aFZ`FZ`FZ`<61>0AAyyv<117>AA5AA5994883<4>5500000000= 00 } Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-art threatened... Date: 18 May 1998 19:55:21 +0100 >>>So I hope you keep the same format, and just hope most >>>people are careful to post things of general interest. >> >>I agree with Kathy. >> >>Paul Carlson >> >Ditto > >Earl Simpson > So do I. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 18 May 1998 14:32:20 -0400 >> MetalComplexNewton { ; complexnewton using black metal colors =2E.. >> inside=3Depsiloncross outside=3Dreal decomp=3D256 colors=3D@blackmet= =2Emap ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It's probably a very nice map but I don't have it! :-) - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Pars for the course Date: 18 May 1998 13:39:15 -0500 Julia_01 { ; 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by Bob Margolis reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-2.22045e-016/2.22045e-016/0.9861933 params=-0.5325997775952228/-0.3598714168738875/6/0 float=y maxiter=750 inside=bof61 symmetry=xyaxis colors=00B<12>00B00B009<3>004640<2>OG0UK0ZO0cS0hW0lZ0ob0sf0uj0xn0<2>zz0<\ 2>xn0uj0sf0ob0lZ0<2>ZO0UK0OG0<3>000000<2>I90OC1UF1ZI2cL3hO4lR5oU7sX8u_9x\ bB<2>zjF<2>xbBu_9sX8oU7lR5<2>ZI2UF1OC1<3>000000620<2>O82UA3ZC5cE7hG9lIBo\ KEsMGuOJxQM<2>zVV<2>xQMuOJsMGoKElIB<2>ZC5UA3O82I61<2>000000610C21I31O43U\ 55Z67c7Ah8Dl9HoALsBOuCTxDXyEazFfzGj<2>xDXuCTsBOoALl9Hh8Dc7AZ67U55O43I31<\ 2>000000500901E02I04M07<2>Y0I`0Mb0Se0Wg0ai0gj0mj0tk0yj0tj0mi0gg0ae0Wb0S`\ 0MY0IU0EQ0AM07I04E02<2>000000300601901C03F05I07K0A<2>Q0LS0OT0T<2>V0fW0jV\ 0f<2>T0TS0OQ0LO0HM0DK0A<3>901<2>000000100<2>602703905<2>C0BD0EE0GE0JF0M<\ 2>G0V<4>E0GD0EC0BB09A07905<2>401300100<6>001 cyclerange=1/1 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: (fractint) Re: Lorentz Bubbles Date: 18 May 1998 22:26:50 +0100 Paul, I have just tried out your bubble rendering of my Lorentz formula. Very cute indeed. Oliver Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: (fractint) Perturbing Julias Date: 18 May 1998 22:27:39 +0100 Here are two small formulas that display perturbed Julia sets. How could this possibly be done? The first thing one could think of is to do the same thing that is done to perturbed Mandelbrot sets. But this does not work. In the Mandelbrot set perturbation is done by adding a constant to the initial value of z before each iteration. In Julia sets the initial value of z is the current pixel value. When we add a constant to this, the Julia set will only be translated in the z-plane. We could also think of adding a constant to the Julia parameter c, but this only results in a different Juila set being generated. The key to success is to change the julia parameter for each iteration. The easiest way to do this is to add a term dependent on the current pixel value, scaled by a constant. The first formula changes c = p1 by adding the term p2*pixel, the second one is a generalized version using c=p1+p2*fn1(pixel). I have includes pars that show the effects of increasing perturbation for a single Julia set using the first forumula. The same results can be obtained with the second formula setting fn1 to "ident". I have not included pars for the generalized formula, but I can assure you you will have fun with it. Oliver ----- begin test.frm ------- okJ_05{ ; Perturbed Julia set ; Julia parameter p1 is perturbed by p2*pixel ; p2=0 -> no perturbation ; p3 = bailout z=pixel c=p1+p2*pixel: z=z*z+c |z|<=p3 } okJ_06{ ; Generalized perturbed Julia set ; Julia parameter p1 is perturbed by p2*fn1(pixel) ; p2=0 -> no perturbation ; p3 = bailout z=pixel c=p1+p2*fn1(pixel): z=z*z+c |z|<=p3 } -------- end test.frm --------- -------- begin test.par ------- okJ_05_01 { ; A plain Julia set ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:14.35 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=okJ_05 center-mag=-0.036036/0/0.6666667 params=-0.78/-0.21/0/0/8/0 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 colors=000vpK<31>n`2n_1mZ0lY0<197>000zzW<19>vpL } okJ_05_02 { ; The same set, slightly perturbed ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:14.09 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=okJ_05 center-mag=-0.036036/0/0.6666667 params=-0.78/-0.21/0.025/0.03/8/0 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 colors=000vpK<31>n`2n_1mZ0lY0<197>000zzW<19>vpL } okJ_05_03 { ; The same set, perturbed some more ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:19.85 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=okJ_05 center-mag=-0.036036/0/0.6666667 params=-0.78/-0.21/0.04/0.03/8/0 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 colors=000vpK<31>n`2n_1mZ0lY0<197>000zzW<19>vpL } okJ_05_04 { ; The same set, grossly perturbed ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:16.31 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=okJ_05 center-mag=-0.036036/0/0.6666667 params=-0.78/-0.21/0.2/0.1/8/0 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 colors=000vpK<31>n`2n_1mZ0lY0<197>000zzW<19>vpL } okJ_05_05 { ; Now, where is this heading ? ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:09.94 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=okJ_05 center-mag=-0.036036/0/0.6666667 params=-0.78/-0.21/0.5/0.6/8/0 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 colors=000vpK<31>n`2n_1mZ0lY0<197>000zzW<19>vpL } okJ_05_06 { ; Welcome to the wonderful world of complex mathematics ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:24.72 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=okJ_05 center-mag=+0.00519101025135284/+0.00028346759843633/44.10254 params=-0.78/-0.21/50/50/8/0 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 colors=000vpK<31>n`2n_1mZ0lY0<197>000zzW<19>vpL } ------- end test.par -------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colleen Johnson Subject: Re: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 18 May 1998 08:35:48 PDT Hi Steve Thanks for the suggestions. No, my 'puter is NOT allowing me to use SF6,= from either Windows or DOS. I'm very disappointed in it. In fact, I've= tried all of the modes that look even possibly appropriate, and only a = couple of the lower resolution ones work. I'm going to have my fairly-co= mputer-literate hubby check Setup to see if there's any problem with the = way we have the computer set up. Any other ideas of things to check? Thanks! Colleen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 18 May 1998 18:08:22 -0400 Hmm...can you use those modes under windows(outside of fractint)? Maybe you don't have the dos VESA drivers. I had a similar problem with quake last year. Check on your video card maker's home page and try to download the newest driver. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 18 May 1998 18:09:04 -0400 At 08:35 AM 5/18/1998 PDT, you wrote: >Hi Steve >Thanks for the suggestions. No, my 'puter is NOT allowing me to use SF6, from either Windows or DOS. I'm very disappointed in it. In fact, I've tried all of the modes that look even possibly appropriate, and only a couple of the lower resolution ones work. I'm going to have my fairly-computer-literate hubby check Setup to see if there's any problem with the way we have the computer set up. Any other ideas of things to check? Watching this thread...just out of curiosity, what is your monitor set at? (Contol Panel/Display/Settings) davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: Re: (fractint) LorentzM with FlexBalls Formula Date: 18 May 1998 18:33:07 -0400 >Wow! You wizzled that one real good - beautiful! It sure does have >an Egyptian flavor to it. Wizzled??? That's a new one on me. :-) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 18 May 1998 18:35:47 -0400 >...Tesseract is almost as much fun to watch. Tesseract? (I guess you meant tesseral... Microsoft's spell checker likes that one even less that 'wizzled'... "no suggestions" this time...) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) Calc method Date: 18 May 1998 18:57:10 -0400 To mctupper: >> MetalComplexNewton { ; complexnewton using black metal colors =2E.. >> inside=3Depsiloncross outside=3Dreal decomp=3D256 colors=3D@blackmet= =2Emap ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > It's probably a very nice map but I don't have it! :-) And neither do I! If you would place the command "recordcolors=3Dyes" in= your sstools.ini file, then whenever you create a par that you want to po= st to the list, the colors will be defined within the par and no map is necessary for other wishing to re-create your image. Lee Skinner Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: Re: (fractint) Perturbing Julias Date: 18 May 1998 19:42:52 -0400 (EDT) At 10:27 PM 5/18/98 +0100, Oliver Klimek wrote: >Here are two small formulas that display perturbed Julia sets. You have just discovered the Julibrot with exactly the same formula that I was testing when I discovered it several years ago. You are not "perturbing" the Julia set -- all Julia sets with a C-value other than 0,0 are "perturbed". What you are doing is rotating the displayed image through the four-dimen- sional Julibrot figure from the Julia direction to the Mandel- brot direction. Stick with this line of exploration. It is the richest method of finding fractals that I have yet discovered. The attached par and frm file, which will be in my FOTD for May 19, is a "perturbed" view of the Elephant Valley area, sliced at an angle of 1-1/4 and 1-1/4 degrees from the Julia direction. It shows just a hint of the undiscovered scenes that lie waiting in the oblique planes between the absolutely perpendicular Mandelbrot and Julia sets. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 19.6 PARAMETER-FORMULA FILE============================ Julibrot_monster { ; 2min on a 486-100mhz, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=multirot.frm formulaname=multirot-XY-ZW function=ident/flip center-mag=0.0061619/2.22045e-016/1.191532/1/90 params=88.75/91.25/0/0/0.29/0 float=y maxiter=1200 bailout=25 inside=0 symmetry=xaxis periodicity=10 colors=000691<12>0J3<10>SoZ<13>zAw<7>iWF<2>K7zWMWf`2sn1\ <12>yKZ<8>hE5gE2dC4<6>R2GTwI<14>xZN<9>gfr<11>ybF<10>`l0\ <6>`eY<2>QwzMgvJTr<12>`4g<11>T4C<13>MCdMCfKEd<11>7aJ6cI\ 6`B6Y4dgnjUb<4>delJkpQioXhnXS2<4>bef3Du<2>V`o5D7<4>ZbgG\ So<4>_en7rO<5>_hkRlvWjs_hpRfrWgp_goCxO<6>`ikgtl } frm:multirot-XY-ZW {;draws all 6 planes and many rotations ;when fn1-2=i,f, then p1 0,0=M, 0,90=O, 90,0=E, 90,90=J ;when fn1-2=f,i, then p1 0,0=M, 0,90=R, 90,0=P, 90,90=J a=real(p1)*.01745329251994, b=imag(p1)*.01745329251994, z=sin(b)*fn1(real(pixel))+sin(a)*fn2(imag(pixel))+p2, c=cos(b)*real(pixel)+cos(a)*flip(imag(pixel))+p3: z=sqr(z)+c, |z| <= 36 } END 19.6 PARAMETER-FORMULA FILE============================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 18 May 1998 20:29:05 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 18 May 1998, Paul Derbyshire wrote: > >...Tesseract is almost as much fun to watch. > > Tesseract? > (I guess you meant tesseral... Microsoft's spell checker likes that one even > less that 'wizzled'... "no suggestions" this time...) That's strange, because 'tesseract' is a real word. It's a four-dimensional cube. (It would be cool if fractint had a rendering method based on that....:) Speaking of Microsoft's spell checker, try this out: Go into Word, type 'zzzz' and spell-check it and see what's really on Bill Gates' mind. --Cliff http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ civil rights are not special rights Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) Perturbing Julias Date: 18 May 1998 20:33:03 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 18 May 1998, Jim Muth wrote: > The attached par and frm file, which will be in my FOTD for > May 19, is a "perturbed" view of the Elephant Valley area, > sliced at an angle of 1-1/4 and 1-1/4 degrees from the Julia > direction. It shows just a hint of the undiscovered scenes > that lie waiting in the oblique planes between the absolutely > perpendicular Mandelbrot and Julia sets. Speaking of the julibrot, can anyone tell me what a THREE-dimensional slice of it would look like? In particular, the three-dimensional slice(s) which have the Mandelbrot set on the x-y plane? Thanks... --Cliff http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ civil rights are not special rights Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) LorentzM with FlexBalls Formula Date: 18 May 1998 19:34:43 -0500 (CDT) >>Wow! You wizzled that one real good - beautiful! It sure does have >>an Egyptian flavor to it. > >Wizzled??? That's a new one on me. :-) From Carlson's Fractal Dictionary (not sold in stores): wizzled (verb) any action performed by Angela (aka Wizzle) upon a fractal image resulting in an enhancement of the image. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) one last formula today Date: 18 May 1998 19:42:30 -0500 (CDT) Hi Sylvie, >My favorite colormap is gold_green. > > Here are two colormaps: [snip] Thanks! Both are great - not sure which I like the best. Both will be added to my collection. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: Re: (fractint) LorentzM with FlexBalls Formula Date: 18 May 1998 19:42:09 -0500 -----Original Message----- >>>Wow! You wizzled that one real good - beautiful! It sure does have >>>an Egyptian flavor to it. >> >>Wizzled??? That's a new one on me. :-) > >>From Carlson's Fractal Dictionary (not sold in stores): >wizzled (verb) any action performed by Angela (aka Wizzle) upon a >fractal image resulting in an enhancement of the image. > >Paul Carlson > Outstanding --- way to go Paul -- ROTFL -- :)) Earl Simpson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Pars for the course Date: 18 May 1998 19:59:25 -0500 (CDT) To Bob: Ah, yes - a demo of the secret you revealed to us during the fractal chat. To everyone else: Come join us in the next fractal chat (to be announced by Wizzle) and you too can learn some of Bob's Fractint secrets (and lots of other good stuff). That wasn't fair, was it? But we gotta get more people! Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: (fractint) Broken link ;-( Date: 18 May 1998 21:05:12 -0400 Oh Jaaaay.... Hate to tell you this, but you made a typo somewhere or something... tonight's FOTN is a broken link ;-( -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) Pars for the course Date: 18 May 1998 21:16:40 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 18 May 1998, Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote: > Come join us in the next fractal chat (to be announced > by Wizzle) and you too can learn some of Bob's Fractint > secrets (and lots of other good stuff). > > That wasn't fair, was it? But we gotta get more people! I was out of town last weekend, so that's why I couldn't come. But I'll definitely show up next week! :) --Cliff http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ civil rights are not special rights Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Paul Carlson frm and pars Date: 18 May 1998 20:40:36 -0500 (CDT) Gedeon, >In particular, however, I would like to comment on your "Satan. Thanks for the comments, Gedeon. It is a very strange image. When it first came up on the screen, it made me want to take the cover off my computer to see if there was something living inside it that I didn't know about. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) Join us next time! Date: 18 May 1998 21:49:32 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 17 May 1998, Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote: > 2) Best books on fractals and best places to buy them. I'm looking for fractal books right now. Any suggestions? --Cliff http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ civil rights are not special rights Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Fractal Chat Date: 18 May 1998 19:02:54 -0700 Personally I would love to do fractal chat during the day, PDT or EDT, but I am cursed with this impediment called "work"....(a four letter word, you will note.) I feel fairly sure many of you are similarly afflicted. Several questions and suggestions: 1. For those of you who can get together during the day, by all means do so......I can't see why I should be the Sophie Tucker of fractint. 2. Those of us who have done a bit of chatting would love to include all those not in the USA time zones, but that means setting up a time which is manageable for most.....I think early weekend mornings fit that bill the best. 7AM here on the left coast is 3PM in England and 9ish in oz. 3. Anyone who is hesitant to jump right in with us because of language or unfamiliarity with IRC clients.......don't worry. IRC is as easy as email once you have set up the program (I use MIRC)......and if you are concerned about your English I can assure you that Earl, Paul, Kathy, Bob, Ren and I talk so much you can sit on the sidelines until you are thoroughly comfortable. IRC is particularly beneficial for those starting out because your questions can be answered in real time. I know when someone give me instructions, half the time I can't quite understand them and need to get additional information. "On line" you can look at your application while you are asking the question.....and if what you are told doesn't work, you can get more help...."are you looking at screen x? do you see that icon with the lightening bolt? no...no....on the left!!! "......stuff like that. What do you sleepyheads say to chatting Saturday morning at 7AM??? Angela Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) More pars for the course Date: 18 May 1998 21:21:57 -0500 Breakwater { ; by Bob Margolis reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000110/-0.00000000000000082/4988354/1.3333 params=-1.743336420184032/2.018923830321943e-014/2/0 float=y maxiter=1250 inside=bof61 distest=-5/5/768/768 biomorph=147 symmetry=xyaxis viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<2>YEn<6>ivz<4>4JbS_jops<3>WGl<4>nLTrMPsQM<2>wcB<4>a0L<6>y2y<5\ >S8t<2>eEm<3>Bhq<5>BQ3<3>a_4<2>VMOSHVPCaM7hR9e<2>fGXlJUpTPubK<7>2AP<7>l1\ L<2>FTZ<4>wn5wbKvRZ<3>wNK<8>E8M<6>tGt<2>KR`<5>vx7<3>Dok<5>R15<7>qCm<2>oz\ 1<3>o0c<6>35w<6>hvS<3>sT7<2>lMOiJUfG_cDeeGd<6>zeT<7>RG_<2>dP_iS`nV`sZasY\ U<2>rS5<4>B6I<7>n9E<3>gdw<2>Vup<2>gU`<3>wpH<2>zPrvDZq1F<5>eGX<3>t3r<3>Cv\ h cyclerange=1/1 } Creepy-Crawlies { ; by Bob Margolis reset=1960 type=fn*fn function=recip/cotan passes=1 center-mag=-8.88178e-016/-2.66454e-015/0.1246377/1.3333 float=y maxiter=255 bailoutest=or inside=bof61 distest=-5/5/768/768 biomorph=147 symmetry=xyaxis viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000HZY<3>R15<7>qCm<2>oz1<3>o0c<6>35w<6>hvS<3>sT7<2>lMOiJUfG_cDeeG\ d<6>zeT<7>RG_<2>dP_iS`nV`sZasYU<2>rS5<4>B6I<7>n9E<3>gdw<2>Vup<2>gU`<3>wp\ H<2>zPrvDZq1F<5>eGX<3>t3r<3>CvhB4HM9YYEn<6>ivz<4>4JbS_jops<3>WGl<4>nLTrM\ PsQM<2>wcB<4>a0L<6>y2y<5>S8t<2>eEm<3>Bhq<5>BQ3<3>a_4<2>VMOSHVPCaM7hR9e<2\ >fGXlJUpTPubK<7>2AP<7>l1L<2>FTZ<4>wn5wbKvRZ<3>wNK<8>E8M<6>tGt<2>KR`<5>vx\ 7<3>DokFgd cyclerange=1/1 } African_Shield { ; by Bob Margolis reset=1960 type=fn*z+z function=sin passes=1 center-mag=4.44089e-016/-4.44089e-016/0.9469697/1.3333 params=1/0/0.735/0 float=y maxiter=255 bailoutest=real inside=bof61 invert=1/0/0 distest=-5/5/768/768 biomorph=147 symmetry=xyaxis viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=0004JbS_jops<3>WGl<2>fJ`000<4>000wcB000oOF<2>a0L<6>y2y<3>c6v000S8\ t<2>eEm<3>Bhq<5>BQ3<3>a_4<2>VMOSHVPCaM7hR9e<2>fGXlJUpTPubK<7>2AP<7>l1L<2\ >FTZ<4>wn5wbKvRZ<3>wNK<8>E8M<6>tGt<2>KR`<5>vx7<3>Dok<5>R15<7>qCm<2>oz1<3\ >o0c<6>35w<6>hvS<3>sT7<2>lMOiJUfG_cDeeGd<6>zeT<7>RG_<2>dP_iS`nV`sZasYU<2\ >rS5<4>B6I<7>n9E<3>gdw<2>Vup<2>gU`<3>wpH<2>zPrvDZq1F<5>eGX<3>t3r<3>CvhB4\ HM9YYEn<6>ivz<3>DRg cyclerange=1/1 } Coat_of_Arms { ; by Bob Margolis reset=1960 type=fn+fn function=sqr/cotan passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000000/+0.00000000000000000/0.3333333/1.3333 params=1/0/0.35/0 float=y maxiter=255 bailoutest=real inside=bof61 distest=-5/5/768/768 biomorph=147 symmetry=xyaxis viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<5>000wcB000oOF<2>a0L<6>y2y<3>c6v000S8t<2>eEm<3>Bhq<5>BQ3<3>a_\ 4<2>VMOSHVPCaM7hR9e<2>fGXlJUpTPubK<7>2AP<7>l1L<2>FTZ<4>wn5wbKvRZ<3>wNK<8\ >E8M<6>tGt<2>KR`<5>vx7<3>Dok<5>R15<7>qCm<2>oz1<3>o0c<6>35w<6>hvS<3>sT7<2\ >lMOiJUfG_cDeeGd<6>zeT<7>RG_<2>dP_iS`nV`sZasYU<2>rS5<4>B6I<7>n9E<3>gdw<2\ >Vup<2>gU`<3>wpH<2>zPrvDZq1F<5>eGX<3>t3r<3>CvhB4HM9YYEn<6>ivz<4>4JbS_jop\ s<3>WGl<2>fJ` cyclerange=1/1 } Where_Did_Van_Go? { ; by Bob Margolis reset=1960 type=dynamic function=sqr passes=1 center-mag=15/-20/0.05841121/1.7778 params=50/0.08500000000000001/-0.25/2.75 float=y maxiter=255 inside=bof61 biomorph=147 symmetry=xyaxis viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<2>YEn<6>ivz<4>4JbS_jops<3>WGl<4>nLTrMPsQM<2>wcB<4>a0L<6>y2y<5\ >S8t<2>eEm<3>Bhq<5>BQ3<3>a_4<2>VMOSHVPCaM7hR9e<2>fGXlJUpTPubK<7>2AP<7>l1\ L<2>FTZ<4>wn5wbKvRZ<3>wNK<8>E8M<6>tGt<2>KR`<5>vx7<3>Dok<5>R15<7>qCm<2>oz\ 1<3>o0c<6>35w<6>hvS<3>sT7<2>lMOiJUfG_cDeeGd<6>zeT<7>RG_<2>dP_iS`nV`sZasY\ U<2>rS5<4>B6I<7>n9E<3>gdw<2>Vup<2>gU`<3>wpH<2>zPrvDZq1F<5>eGX<3>t3r<3>Cv\ h cyclerange=1/1 } Meteor_Shower { ; by Bob Margolis reset=1960 type=magnet2m passes=1 center-mag=+1.67014112577989200/-0.38767921889175760/1.819338/1.3333/90 params=1/2 float=y maxiter=255 inside=bof61 distest=-5/5/768/768 biomorph=147 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000anv<3>4JbS_jops<3>WGl<4>nLTrMPsQM<2>wcB<4>a0L<6>y2y<5>S8t<2>eE\ m<3>Bhq<5>BQ3<3>a_4<2>VMOSHVPCaM7hR9e<2>fGXlJUpTPubK<7>2AP<7>l1L<2>FTZ<4\ >wn5wbKvRZ<3>wNK<8>E8M<6>tGt<2>KR`<5>vx7<3>Dok<5>R15<7>qCm<2>oz1<3>o0c<6\ >35w<6>hvS<3>sT7<2>lMOiJUfG_cDeeGd<6>zeT<7>RG_<2>dP_iS`nV`sZasYU<2>rS5<4\ >B6I<7>n9E<3>gdw<2>Vup<2>gU`<3>wpH<2>zPrvDZq1F<5>eGX<3>t3r<3>CvhB4HM9YYE\ n<6>ivz cyclerange=1/1 } A_Qwyrntezinsl { ; by Bob Margolis reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=t center-mag=1.17961e-016/-0.00404706/38.75969 params=-0.5099292698823528/-0.6322702595294114/3/0 float=y maxiter=255 bailoutest=or fillcolor=0 inside=epsiloncross distest=-5/5/768/768 biomorph=147 finattract=y periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000`CpeEm<3>Bhq<5>BQ3<3>a_4<2>VMOSHVPCaM7hR9e<2>fGXlJUpTPubK<7>2A\ P<7>l1L<2>FTZ<4>wn5wbKvRZ<3>wNK<8>E8M<6>tGt<2>KR`<5>vx7<3>Dok<5>R15<7>qC\ m<2>oz1<3>o0c<6>35w<6>hvS<3>sT7<2>lMOiJUfG_cDeeGd<6>zeT<7>RG_<2>dP_iS`nV\ `sZasYU<2>rS5<4>B6I<7>n9E<3>gdw<2>Vup<2>gU`<3>wpH<2>zPrvDZq1F<5>eGX<3>t3\ r<3>CvhB4HM9YYEn<6>ivz<4>4JbS_jops<3>WGl<4>nLTrMPsQM<2>wcB<4>a0L<6>y2y<5\ >S8tWAr orbitdelay=4 cyclerange=1/1 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Still more pars for the course Date: 18 May 1998 21:23:07 -0500 Popcornjul_01 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=popcornjul passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000000/+0.00000000000000000/0.4789272/1.3333 params=0.070812 float=y maxiter=255 inside=bof61 outside=summ symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<2>000waVzeT<7>RG_<2>dP_iS`nV`sZasYU<2>rS5<4>B6I<7>n9E<3>gdw<2\ >Vup<2>gU`<3>wpH<2>zPrvDZq1F<5>eGX<3>t3r<3>CvhB4HM9YYEn<6>ivz<4>4JbS_jop\ s<3>WGl<4>nLTrMPsQM<2>wcB<4>a0L<6>y2y<5>S8t<2>eEm<3>Bhq<5>BQ3<3>a_4<2>VM\ OSHVPCaM7hR9e<2>fGXlJUpTPubK<7>2AP<7>l1L<2>FTZ<4>wn5wbKvRZ<3>wNK<8>E8M<6\ >tGt<2>KR`<5>vx7<3>Dok<5>R15<7>qCm<2>oz1<3>o0c<6>35w<6>hvS<3>sT7<2>lMOiJ\ UfG_cDeeGdhKbkNa cyclerange=1/1 } Popcornjul_02 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=popcornjul passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000000/-0.00000000000000044/0.4975063/1.3333 params=0.008175 float=y maxiter=255 inside=bof61 outside=summ symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<153>zzCvfrvfrvfrxpftdvtdvtdvzpdpppPzzzPzzzPvfvvfvvfvzrfvfxvfx\ vfxnnznznznnxhvxhvxhvxfxxfxxfxsssazzzazzzaxhxxhxxhxzhxzhxzhxuuuzhzzhzzhz\ zjzzjzzjznzzznz40860860A62A62C82C84CA4CA6CC6CC8CC6EC8EE6EEAEG8GGCGI8IIEG\ KAIKGGMCKGGOOCKGGQGIQIIQQEMIISQEOIKSKKSSGOKKUMKUMMUUIQOMUOMXXKQQMXZKQQOX\ SOXZMSSOZ`MSUOZ`OSUO`bOSUObbQUXOb cyclerange=1/1 } Popcornjul_03 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=popcornjul passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000000/+0.00000000000000000/0.4444444/1.3333 params=-0.05175 float=y maxiter=255 bailout=100 inside=bof61 outside=summ symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<15>lzZkzXizU<12>vzs000<15>z`SzZQzXN<12>ztr000<15>SzSQzQNzN<12\ >rzr000<15>fJzeGzcCz<12>vsz000<15>LzvIzu<13>wzy000<15>qzLpzI<13>xzt000<1\ 5>7Vz3Sz<13>ruz000<15>znzzmz<13>zxz cyclerange=1/1 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 18 May 1998 22:32:20 -0400 >> Tesseract? >> (I guess you meant tesseral... Microsoft's spell checker likes that one even >> less that 'wizzled'... "no suggestions" this time...) >That's strange, because 'tesseract' is a real word. It's a >four-dimensional cube. (It would be cool if fractint had a rendering >method based on that....:) Yeah... and tesseral means of or pertaining to rectangles, but it doesn't like it either. >Speaking of Microsoft's spell checker, try this out: Go into Word, type >'zzzz' and spell-check it and see what's really on Bill Gates' mind. Seen that one... > civil rights are not special rights What the heck does this mean exactly? -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colleen Johnson Subject: Re: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 18 May 1998 19:33:55 PDT Hi Christian Thanks for the suggestion re running Fractint from DOS to try to get bett= er resolution. Unfortunately, I've tried it both ways, with no luck. = Guess I'll just have to keep working on it. Colleen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) Christmas_giftwrap pars Date: 18 May 1998 19:55:57 -0700 --------------D229FE6D51C52FE89509FA47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Les St.Clair wrote: > I noticed that the aspect ratio has changed to 0.6:1 > >>viewwindows=1/0.6/yes/0/0 > > Was this intentional? > (it is also the way in which all of your most recent postings have been > done) > Totally unintentional-Thanks for letting me know the postings were that way. I fixed it with "F4". --------------D229FE6D51C52FE89509FA47 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Les St.Clair wrote:

 I noticed that the aspect ratio has changed to 0.6:1
>>viewwindows=1/0.6/yes/0/0

Was this intentional?
(it is also the way in which all of your most recent postings have been
done)

Totally unintentional-Thanks for letting me know the postings
were that way. I fixed it with "F4". --------------D229FE6D51C52FE89509FA47-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Lorentz Bubbles Date: 18 May 1998 22:03:25 -0500 (CDT) Oliver, >I have just tried out your bubble rendering of my Lorentz formula. >Very cute indeed. Actually, those were done with what I've been calling my "FlexBall" rendering method. Here is my bubble formula and a par which is a zoom into a Julia set of z=z*z+c. I haven't tried bubble rendering with your Lorentz equation - I suspect that the discontinuities would ruin the images. I should have called this image "Seahores Riding on a Spiral Rollercoaster" but that's a bit too long. Paul Carlson frm:Bubbles_Julia_Mset {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; Parameters: ; ; p1 = if both real(p1) and imag(p1) are zero ; do Mset, otherwise do Julia set. ; real(p2) = maximum contour of minimum sqrt(|w|) ; (this is the outside edge of the bubbles). ; imag(p2) = value of |w| at bailout. ; real(p3) = number of color ranges. ; imag(p3) = number of colors in each color range. ; IF (real(p1) == 0 && imag(p1) == 0) w = 0 c = pixel ELSE w = pixel c = p1 ENDIF z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0 max_w = imag(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) max_min_w = real(p2) min_w = 1.0e20 factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / max_min_w : w = w * w + c ; Classic Mandelbrot equation ; temp = sqrt(|w|) IF (temp < min_w) min_w = temp save_range = range_num ENDIF IF (|w| > max_w) IF (min_w < max_min_w) z = factor * min_w + save_range * colors_in_range + 1 ELSE z = 0 ENDIF bailout = 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < max_w } seahorse_spiral { ; Copyright(c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:08:46.08, 1024x768, 60MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=bubs.frm formulaname=bubbles_julia_mset passes=t center-mag=0.179909/0.294109/31.00469/1/-65 params=-0.746410388/0.184309007/0.188/16/2/125 float=y maxiter=10000 outside=summ colors=000zVz<123>G0GVzz<123>0GG000<3>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Join us next time! Date: 18 May 1998 22:26:10 -0500 (CDT) >I'm looking for fractal books right now. Any suggestions? What level of mathematics are you comfortable with? Anyhow, the book, Title: Chaos and Fractals Authors: Peitgen, Jurgens and Saupe Publisher: Springer-Verlag, 1992 ISBN: 0-387-97903-4 is a very good book not requiring much beyond high school math. It's a big book (almost 1,000 pages) that gives a lot of detailed info about fractals. I just saw a copy in Barnes & Noble tonight so it's still in print. I think I paid $40 for it a few years ago. During the fractal chat, Wizzle said Amazon Books is a good place for computer books. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 18 May 1998 23:22:20 -0400 >>Speaking of Microsoft's spell checker, try this out: Go into Word, type >>'zzzz' and spell-check it and see what's really on Bill Gates' mind. > >Seen that one... Shit! Outlook exploder does it too! That's really weird... it almost has to be intentional..... :-) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Books Date: 18 May 1998 20:38:27 -0700 At 10:26 PM 5/18/98 -0500, you wrote: >>I'm looking for fractal books right now. Any suggestions? I have my own short list, which includes Paul's recommendation. It can be found at www.hooked.net/~mchris/books.htm Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Books Date: 18 May 1998 20:40:20 -0700 I wrote: >At 10:26 PM 5/18/98 -0500, you wrote: >>>I'm looking for fractal books right now. Any suggestions? > >I have my own short list, which includes Paul's recommendation. Oops, no it doesn't! Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Books Date: 18 May 1998 20:54:10 -0700 At 10:26 PM 5/18/98 -0500, you wrote: >>I'm looking for fractal books right now. Any suggestions? As to where, I can suggest a couple of places for deals. Every now and then Tower Books has sales that can save you as much as 35%. Also, Academic Press (which publishes Michael Barnsley's "Fractals Everywhere") offers discounts of the same magnitude at trade shows (I got one at VR '94). Crown has decent prices, and there's always Amazon.com (but the shipping can wipe out much of your savings). Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) Calc method Date: 18 May 1998 23:59:05 -0400 // > civil rights are not special rights // =20 // What the heck does this mean exactly? Umm... you know what affirmative action is? Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) Books on Fractals Date: 18 May 1998 21:06:50 -0700 --------------657246D1B4D7BD31B572C39E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cliff wrote: > I'm looking for fractal books right now. Any suggestions? > I was thinking of making a list of the fractal books that people have posted to this list, some of which I've read (partially). Fractal Creations by Tim Wegner and Bert Tyler, the Waite group, 1993 a relatively short section on the basics of fractals but actually has the best description of all of them. It makes the difference between the x-y orbit space and the c=pixel Mandelbrot clear. ( Everyone else seems to assume you know this.) Mostly devoted to the feature of Fractint. not sure if it is out of print. A First Course in Chaotic Dynamical Systems, Robert L Devaney, Addison- Wesley 1992 Paul Carlson recommended Chaos and Fractals by Peitgen, Jurgens and Saupe, Springer-Verlag 1992 It's BIG. I like it. Pretty hard for the non-math major but quite a lot comprehensible if you have some college math. great section on Feigenbaum point. The Science of Fractal Images, Barnsley, Devaney, Mandelbrot, Peitgen, Saupe, Voss Springer-Verlag 1988 Fractals for the Classroom, Peitgen et.al., Springer-Verlag 1992 a workbook Fractals Everywhere, Michael Barnsley Academic Press 1988 The Fractal Geometry of Nature, Benoit Mandelbrot, out of print other additions to list? --------------657246D1B4D7BD31B572C39E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cliff wrote:

I'm looking for fractal books right now.  Any suggestions?

I was thinking of making a list of the fractal books that people have
posted to this list, some of which I've read (partially).

Fractal Creations by Tim Wegner and Bert Tyler, the
Waite group, 1993
                     a relatively short section on the basics of fractals but actually
                     has the best description of all of them. It makes the difference
                     between the x-y orbit space and the c=pixel Mandelbrot
                     clear. ( Everyone else seems to assume you know this.)
                     Mostly devoted to the feature of Fractint. not sure if it is out
                    of print.

A First Course in Chaotic Dynamical Systems, Robert L Devaney, Addison-
Wesley 1992 Paul Carlson recommended

Chaos and Fractals by Peitgen, Jurgens and Saupe, Springer-Verlag 1992
                     It's BIG. I like it. Pretty hard for the non-math major but quite a
                     lot comprehensible if you have some college math. great
                     section on Feigenbaum point.

The Science of Fractal Images, Barnsley, Devaney, Mandelbrot, Peitgen,
Saupe, Voss Springer-Verlag 1988

Fractals for the Classroom, Peitgen et.al., Springer-Verlag 1992
a workbook

Fractals Everywhere, Michael Barnsley Academic Press 1988

The Fractal Geometry of Nature, Benoit Mandelbrot, out of print

other additions to list? --------------657246D1B4D7BD31B572C39E-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) Calc method Date: 19 May 1998 00:13:58 -0400 // >>Speaking of Microsoft's spell checker, try this out: Go into=20 // Word, type // >>'zzzz' and spell-check it and see what's really on Bill Gates' = mind. // > // >Seen that one... // =20 // Shit! Outlook exploder does it too! That's really weird... it=20 // almost has to be // intentional..... :-) I don't think so... They prob'ly have the same spell check = algorithm/engine in all their products, and to make it *not* suggest = 'sex' would prob'ly involve a kludge of some kind (excuse the abbrvns = ) They wouldn't go out of their ways to do *that*, would they? (I = mean, sheesh, they didn't even convince the DOJ to... well, you know..) Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) My fractal books collection Date: 18 May 1998 23:26:26 -0500 Some of the mathematics books in the library of Bob Margolis. Many of them pertain to fractals. Advanced Fractal Programming in C--Stephens Archimedes' Revenge--Hoffman Beauty of Fractals, The--Peitgen and Richter Cellular Automata and Complexity--Wolfram Chaos: A Program Collection for the PC--Korsch & Jodl Chaos and Fractals: The Mathematics Behind...---Amer. Math. Soc. Chaos and Fractals: New Frontiers of Science--Peitgen et al Chaos Cookbook, The--Pritchard Chaos, Fractals, and Dynamics: Computer Experiments...--Devaney Chaos in Dynamical Systems--Ott Chaos in Wonderland--Pickover Chaos: Making a New Science--Gleick Chaos: The New Science--Holte Chaos Under Control--Peak & Frame Chaotic and Fractal Dynamics--Moon Chaotic Dynamics--Baker & Gollub Computers and the Imagination--Pickover Computers, Pattern, Chaos, and Beauty--Pickover Differential Equations with Applications--Betz, Burcham & Ewing Does God Play Dice? The Mathematics of Chaos--Stewart Dynamical Systems and Fractals--Becker & Dorfler Elementary Number Theory--Uspensky & Heaslet Encounters with Chaos--Gulick Essence of Chaos, The--Lorenz Excursions in Number Theory--Ogilvy & Anderson Exploring Chaos--Hall Exploring the Geometry of Nature--Rietman Eye for Fractals, An--McGuire Fantasia Mathematica--Fadiman Fourth Dimension, The--Rucker Fractal Cosmos: The Art of Mathematical Design--Berkowitz Fractal Creations (1st ed.)--Wegner & Peterson Fractal Creations (2nd ed.)--Wegner & Tyler Fractal Geometry: Math Foundations & Applications--Falconer Fractal Geometry and Computer Graphics--Encarnacao, Peitgen et al Fractal Geometry of Nature, The--Mandelbrot Fractal Graphics for Windows--Oliver & Hoviss Fractal Mania--LaPlante Fractal Programming in C--Stevens Fractal Programming and Ray Tracing with C++--Stevens Fractal Vision: Put Fractals to Work for You--Oliver Fractals: A User's Guide ... Natural Sciences--Hastings/Sugihara Fractals and Chaos--Crilly, Earnshaw & Jones Fractals, Chaos, Power Laws--Schroeder Fractals: Endlessly Repeated Geometrical Figures--Lauwerier Fractals Everywhere (1st ed.)--Barnsley Fractals Everywhere (2nd ed.)--Barnsley Fractals for the Classroom, Part One: Intro...--Maletsky et al Fractals for the Classroom, Part Two: Complex Systems--Maletsky.. Fractals: Images of Chaos--Lauwerier Fractals: The Patterns of Chaos--Briggs From Five Fingers to Infinity--Swetz From One to Zero--Ifrah From Zero to Infinity--Reid Game, Set and Math--Stewart Godel, Escher, Bach--Hofstadter Infinity and the Mind--Rucker Journey Through Genius--Dunham Joy of Mathematics, The--Pappas Loom of God, The--Pickover Magic House of Numbers--Adler Martin Gardner's New Mathematical Diversions from Scientific American Mathematical Magic Show--Gardner Mathematical Tourist, The--Peterson Mathematician's Delight--Sawyer Mathematics Dictionary--James Mathematics: From the Birth of Numbers--Gullberg Mathematics in Civilization--Resnikoff & Wells Mathematics in the Making--Hogben Mathematics: Queen and Servant of Science--Bell Mazes for the Mind: Computers and the Unexpected--Pickover Men of Mathematics--Bell More Joy of Mathematics--Pappas New Scientist Guide to Chaos, The--Hall Of Men & Numbers--Muir Ordinary Differential Equations--Ince Pattern Book, The: Fractals, Art, and Nature--Pickover Real-World Fractals--Finlay & Blanton Recreations in the Theory of Numbers--Beiler Science of Fractal Images, The--Peitgen & Saupe Source Book in Mathematics, A (2 vols.)--Smith Strange Attractors: Creating Patterns in Chaos--Sprott Theory of Numbers--Stewart Turbulent Mirror--Briggs & Peat Turing Omnibus, The--Dewdney Understanding the New Mathematics--Rosenthal What is Mathematics?--Courant & Robbins World of Mathematics, The (4 vols.)--Newman You Are a Mathematician--Wells Your Chance to Win--Levinson Now for a word from our sponsor: Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 19 May 1998 01:01:50 -0400 // Shit! Outlook exploder does it too! That's really weird... it // almost has to be // intentional..... :-) I don't think so... They prob'ly have the same spell check algorithm/engine in all their products, and to make it *not* suggest 'sex' would prob'ly involve a kludge of some kind (excuse the abbrvns ) They wouldn't go out of their ways to do *that*, would they? (I mean, sheesh, they didn't even convince the DOJ to... well, you know..) No, not that it recurs in other products, the spell check stuff is probably in a DLL like the infamous file dialog. I meant that what it suggests is apparently unrelated in this case to what's input... And what didn't they convince the DOJ to do? -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAksoy Subject: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 19 May 1998 02:31:52 EDT In a message dated 98-05-17 13:40:58 EDT, you write: << I'd entertain suggestions for splitting this forum to make it work better for members. Should we consider a PAR and FRM only list, and another for questions and discussion? The truck is splitting the forum in such a way that one doesn't have all the traffic. Tim >> I think splitting the list between PAR/FRM's and questions/discussion is an idea whose time has come. With some 30 messages per day and often over 300 PARs per month, searching for and extracting PARs from fractint email is becoming arduous. Often, they are buried in threaded messages under nondescript subject titles ("Re: something or other"). With PARs on a separate list, they could be explicitly identified by subject title and would be more efficiently located in the daily rush of incoming email. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: Re: (fractint) Perturbing Julias Date: 19 May 1998 02:44:53 -0400 (EDT) At 08:33 PM 5/18/98 -0400, cjc26 wrote: >Speaking of the julibrot, can anyone tell me what a THREE- >dimensional slice of it would look like? In particular, the >three-dimensional slice(s) which have the Mandelbrot set on >the x-y plane? Thanks... It's kind of hard to describe, but the attached formula will draw horizontal two-dimensional slices through the center of all the possible orientations that project the Mandelbrot XY image on the screen. To visualize the 3D object, run the formula with all para- meters set to zero and symmetry set to none. A small out-zoom will be necessary to fit the entire image on the screen. Now imagine standing at the left side of your screen, looking down on the object, which has miraculously filled out into three dimensions, and extends behind and in front of the screen. The Y-axis is real(c), the X-axis varies from real(z), (when p1 is set to 0,0), to imag(z), (when p1 is set to 0,90). Of course, since we are limited to two dimensions, we can see only the center slice of this 3D object. By changing imag(p1) from 0 to 90, we have rotated the Julibrot 90 degrees around the plane of the classic Mandelbrot set. (In four dimensions, the axis of rotation is a plane.) By varying imag(p1) from 0 to 360, an entire 360-degree rotation can be visualized. This also makes an interesting animation loop. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START FORMULA================================================= multirot-XZ-YW {; Jim Muth ; 0,0=para, 90,0=obl, 0,90=elip, 90,90=rect e=exp(flip(real(p1*.01745329251994))), f=exp(flip(imag(p1*.01745329251994))), z=f*real(pixel)+p2, c=e*imag(pixel)+p3: z=sqr(z)+c, |z| <= 36 } END FORMULA=================================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) FOTN not allowed? Date: 19 May 1998 01:53:20 -0600 Last night went walking the byways for Jay Hill's FOTN. Made two attempts to get in to see his offering - but was informed by a rude Netscape doorman that they could not find him on that (or this) server. Have I lived my life improperly to be so denied? Perhaps I copied the address wrong - but whatever - I didn't get to see Jay's FOTN - darn! After wandering around for a while, I did spot the door to Jim Muth's FOTD and admired that for a while. Thanks for the treat Jim and, Jay - I'm sure it would have been a treat had I been allowed in by that rude guard. Next time. Ray Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTN not allowed? Date: 19 May 1998 03:19:40 -0500 Ray Montgomery wrote: > > Last night went walking the byways for Jay Hill's FOTN. > Made two attempts to get in to see his offering - but > was informed by a rude Netscape doorman that they could > not find him on that (or this) server. > This may be due to the fact that a lot of ISPs and servers are maintenanced on weekend nights. I know that AT&T's Worldnet has a webpage that states the days and times for these events, which sometimes conflicts with my uploading Jim's current FOTD to my website. You might have Jay check with the "San Diego Road Runner" ISP to see when their times are, or you might check with your own service provider. P.N.L. Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: (fractint) Fractint 19.6 hangs on 0-length parfiles Date: 19 May 1998 09:59:29 -0400 Seems there's a quite serious, overlooked bug in Fractint v19.6 accessing a 0-length PAR file. A 0-length par file shows up in the list of PARs from hitting @, but if you select it, it won't say "No entries available" or anything such, instead the par-selection screen will shift up a line and Fractint will silently hang. Further keypresses are eaten (the keyboard buffer doesn't fill up and start beeping) and each one makes the screen scroll a line, but it seems to be stuck in an infinite loop. Occasionally it will, after minutes of sitting at the hung screen, spontaneously burp and print a red box claiming the file doesn't exist, then resume normal activity, but usually the only recourse is the Vulcan nerve pinch. Needless to say this is a quite serious problem. It would be greatly appreciated if future versions of Fractint handled this exceptional condition more gracefully. It would also be a good idea to check the frm, map, gif, L-file, IFS-file, and pot code to ensure they don't replicate the same bug. For that matter, a 0-length fractint.cfg could cause Fractint to hang on startup if the bug occurs there also, and this would be especially pernicious. Please note: so far this problem has been observed only on the alpha version with the new GIF encoder. However since I assume this doesn't have changes to PAR code, I would expect vanilla 19.6 to exhibit the hang also. For those curious as to how I discovered this bug, in light of the fact that a 0-length parfile is by definition rather useless, I had a quick hack written to manufacture PARswith randomized parameters within certain constraints, and it was emitting 0-length files for some obscure reason. (Open files weren't being properly closed on exit by the runtime, for some silly reason, and this forced the addition of explicit closes and flushes...) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractal Chat Date: 19 May 1998 10:13:20 -0400 > Personally I would love to do fractal chat during the day, PDT or > EDT, but I am > cursed with this impediment called "work"....(a four letter word, you will > note.) I feel fairly sure many of you are similarly afflicted. Several > questions and suggestions: Ah yes...I tend to forget that most other people have lives. My fault :) If afternoons suck for a lot of you, weekday evenings are fine for me as well. And weekends are fine for me starting in the end of june. > 1. For those of you who can get together during the day, by all means do > so......I can't see why I should be the Sophie Tucker of fractint. [snip] > What do you sleepyheads say to chatting Saturday morning at 7AM??? Ummm...[sound of shuffling as I get my time zone slide rule out]...that would be 10AM for me. Perfect. I'll be there. Now, out of curiosity, is anyone going to register #fractals? This way the channel would be (to some degree) open 24/7 for anyone to stop in. This would definately introduce a lot of new people to fractint, so thats another benefit(or drawback, depending on your outlook on life :)). The one difficulty is, some of us would need to be channel operators(affectionately known as Ops). Basically, all Ops need to do is: Keep the conversation alive Help answer newbie questions(either about IRC or Fractals) Kick out anyone who becomes a major problem None of this is difficult. The hard part is that ops should really be in the chan as much as possible. The best channels have a few ops who are *always* around, and I don't know who has time for that. Even that isn't as hard as it sounds though...I know some people get so addicted to IRC that they stay logged in whenever they do anything online, checking the IRC window for action every few minutes. I'm perfectly willing to help out, at least during the summer. When school reopens, I'll once again become lost in the RealLifeZone(tm). My only concern is, while I'm a veteran to IRC, I'm definately a Fractint newbie. I doubt I'd be much help in that department... -RJ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) Re: No Fotn Date: 19 May 1998 09:08:33 -0600 Hi Paul Thanks for the response. I'd better choose a different time for my meanderings. Ray Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: (fractint) Fractal books Date: 19 May 1998 11:06:55 -0400 I'm also interested in grabbing some good books on Fractals. I'd prefer one that's rather light on the math, and concentrates on the artistic side of fractaling. Also, the one by Barnsley sounds like a good one. From the title, I'm guessing it discusses the fractals we see in every day life(maybe clouds and so forth). Is this the case? Is there a lot of heavy math in this one? As far as the out of print books, I'm not sure if you all know about this or not, but amazon.com will track down used copies if you order through them. -RJ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 19 May 1998 11:17:00 -0400 I would also like to see a split. I prefer to have the discussion in regular email form, but pars would be much more managable in a digest form. Or, if a digest can't be done, it would still be much easier to set up a mail filter for pars if they came from a different list. The only drawback I see, is that the discussion is often intertwined with the pars. I'd hate to lose that. I'm sure we'll find some way to make everyone happy. Another thing that would make things MUCH easier- Yesterday Peter Gavin posted some pars(which I haven't seen yet...still haven't begun to wade through anything from the weekend). He sent them both as attachments and pasted into the message. If this became standard practice, I for one would be very grateful. -RJ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of MAksoy > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 2:32 AM > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Split the list! > > > In a message dated 98-05-17 13:40:58 EDT, you write: > > << I'd entertain suggestions for splitting this forum to make it > work better > for > members. Should we consider a PAR and FRM only list, and another for > questions and discussion? The truck is splitting the forum in > such a way that > one doesn't have all the traffic. > > Tim >> > > I think splitting the list between PAR/FRM's and > questions/discussion is an > idea whose time has come. With some 30 messages per day and often over 300 > PARs per month, searching for and extracting PARs from fractint email is > becoming arduous. Often, they are buried in threaded messages under > nondescript subject titles ("Re: something or other"). With PARs on a > separate list, they could be explicitly identified by subject > title and would > be more efficiently located in the daily rush of incoming email. > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: RE: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 19 May 1998 11:39:21 -0400 I'd rather see the list as it is now. The mix is just right for me, and if I want the pars all set up in one nice package, Les St.Clair makes this downright enjoyable to access monthly on his own website. Not all of us are set up to receive attachments, but if I could download them from Les's page, that might overcome that problem. I'm writing this too hastily, so forgive any errors in syntax, spelling, or presentation. Marie :) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of RJ Corradino Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 11:17 AM I would also like to see a split. I prefer to have the discussion in regular email form, but pars would be much more managable in a digest form. Or, if a digest can't be done, it would still be much easier to set up a mail filter for pars if they came from a different list. The only drawback I see, is that the discussion is often intertwined with the pars. I'd hate to lose that. I'm sure we'll find some way to make everyone happy. Another thing that would make things MUCH easier- Yesterday Peter Gavin posted some pars(which I haven't seen yet...still haven't begun to wade through anything from the weekend). He sent them both as attachments and pasted into the message. If this became standard practice, I for one would be very grateful. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint)hangs on 0-length parfiles-not! Date: 19 May 1998 12:08:52 EDT In a message dated 98-05-19 10:10:47 EDT, you write: << only recourse is the Vulcan nerve pinch. >> Rofl....cute line....but....it seems not all machines react the same to the same specific stimuli. T.I. Pent.100 says "no valid entries faster t Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 19.6 hangs on 0-length parfiles Date: 19 May 1998 12:14:21 EDT In a message dated 98-05-19 10:10:47 EDT, you write: << only recourse is the Vulcan nerve pinch. >> OOPS...wrong button...I hate when that happens.... anyways ...my machine responds with the 'no valid entries' red box faster than data could respond with a verbal calulation of the response time.... its relatively instantaneous.... Hitting escape 2 times gets me out of there and there is no problem. I've seen my friends Compac sit and wonder what to do about situations that are immediately resolved by my machine or an other friends machine. It might be good to have a few others check and see what happens in this situation. ~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^~~^ Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 19 May 1998 12:15:51 EDT Sounds good! Easy to do??? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint)no hang on 0-length frm and map Date: 19 May 1998 12:24:53 EDT I checked the a blank frm....quick response...no valid entries map.... hummm ....it just loads a flat grey screen... Just to let you know. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal books Date: 19 May 1998 09:51:13 -0700 At 11:06 AM 5/19/98 -0400, RJ wrote: >I'm also interested in grabbing some good books on Fractals. I'd prefer one >that's rather light on the math, and concentrates on the artistic side of >fractaling. Also, the one by Barnsley sounds like a good one. From the >title, I'm guessing it discusses the fractals we see in every day life(maybe >clouds and so forth). Is this the case? Is there a lot of heavy math in >this one? Well, unfortunately the answers are yes (real-life fractals and yes (heavy math). It is fairly rigorous - it's a college mathematics text. But there is a lot of good data on diverse fractal types, and some really cool images (but that's par for the course for fractal books). It is also my most frequently used fractal text (yes, I actually *own* this one!) What's special about this book is its thorough coverage of the Collage Theorem (which Barnsley discovered), it applications, and related mathematics. For the "fractals in everyday life" theme, unless something better has been done since (and please correct me if I'm wrong - my research is limited to what my local libraries have), the best is still Benoit Mandelbrot's "The Fractal Geometry of Nature" (W. H. Freeman & Co., New York, 1982). (Of course, it *also* has a lot of math - Mandelbrot was trying to model the stock market's behavior when he discovered fractal mathematics). You can probably find it at any (civilized) public library, along with most of the classic books listed here recently. Surprisingly, here in Silicon Valley (using Mountain View and Sunnyvale as my gauge), we are seriously underinvested in books. I have seen nothing more recent than 1991 on fractals. On the other hand, software texts are more up to date (up to 1996). Actually, now that I think of it, didn't Mandelbrot do a "mostly pictures" book with nature photos exhibiting fractal characteristics? Can someone help us out here? Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: (fractint) Dazzling pars Date: 19 May 1998 12:51:42 -0400 35 fractals for you folks to enjoy... if anyone is missing the hring.frm, speak up and I'll repost it. 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center-mag=-0.0272269/2.09319/0.2243776 params=-0.1849131584167/0.9827548645742/0/3.9/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000ymg<12>eWlcUmcUm<29>L1LK0KK0KK0K<77>000ymg<13>e43c00c00<29>L0J\ K0KK0KK0K<77>000 } -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 19.6 hangs on 0-length parfiles Date: 19 May 1998 13:20:12 -0400 >> Hitting escape 2 times gets me out of there and there is no problem. Ditto for me. - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint) slow dos??? Date: 19 May 1998 13:36:56 EDT Hi there .... Check my logic here please. Win 95 runs 'on top' of dos version 4.1 in my machine. Win 95 always runs on top of dos? Even later versions of dos....say 6.1? Could one say there is a major difference between dos v.4 and v 6 to the point that v.6 is an 'emulation ' { of earlier versions} and actually runs on top of windows? I'm trying to justify the drag in response time, accessing paramater screens, between my machine T.I. pent 100.... and my friends machine Pent.II 266. My machine { the pent 100 } is much faster accessing dos parameter screens in fractint. {of course the 266 generates faster } but drag in the 266 opening z,x,y,i,@ ....is annoying. I talked to the maker of the 266 and the razel dazel he gave me didn't sound believable... so I'm asking people I trust. :-) Any comment or input is welcome. Thanks ~~^~~^~~^ Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: re:(fractint): extracting PARs...becoming arduous. Date: 19 May 1998 13:37:03 EDT <<>> Hi there... Often I get the pars and frms from the digest. I use note pad. I select search \ find and type formulafile or reset=1960 and I hit search. I'm led directly to what I want. The digest is a cool thing! Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 19 May 1998 11:05:51 -0700 > I'd entertain suggestions for splitting this forum to make it work better >for members. Should we consider a PAR and FRM only list, and another for > questions and discussion? The trick is splitting the forum in such a way that > one doesn't have all the traffic. > > Tim I have mixed feelings about this. I hope no one takes this wrong. I'm not trying to be critical. But the subscriber's to this list, including myself, haven't done a great job of following Tim's requests so far. We post off-topic messages. When we respond to a message, we tend to include most or all of the original message in our reponse. If Tim addresses one specific issue and says, "Enough," some of us still have to get in the last word with a few more postings on that issue. . . and so forth. I doubt that a specific par and frm list would in fact be restricted to par and frm postings, and I doubt that the Fractint Mailing List would ever be completely free of par and frm postings. Also, RJ is correct . . . the discussion is often intertwined with the pars. I'd would also hate to lose that. I agree with Maria. I'd like to see the list left the way it is now. Linda Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) slow dos??? Date: 19 May 1998 14:13:23 -0400 Steve wrote: >>Win 95 runs 'on top' of dos version 4.1 in my machine. >>Win 95 always runs on top of dos? Even later versions of dos....say 6.1? [snip] >>My machine { the pent 100 } is much faster accessing dos parameter screens in >>fractint. Steve, Win95 *always* runs on top of DOS 7 (I think 4.1 is the version of Windows, not DOS). DOS 7 is a 'special' version of DOS Microsoft wrote to run Win95. It is very similar to Windows 3.1 running on top of DOS 5 or DOS 6 (although Microsoft tried to hide the fact that Win95 runs on top of anything). Anyway, your slowness could be caused by many things, but perhaps it is caused by your video card changing from graphics to text mode. The CPU speed would have nothing to do with this. Some video cards are slower than others when changing modes. Nick Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: re:(fractint) one last formula today Date: 19 May 1998 19:36:46 +0100 >> Here are two colormaps: >> sg_coshm3-1 { ; Color plug-in for Paul Carlson's coshm3 >> sg_coshm3-2 { ; Color plug-in for Paul Carlson's coshm3 Paul Carlson + Sylvie Gallet...what a great partnership! These maps also work great with many of Paul's other images, such as the "asprsym" series. Cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) slow dos\video card? Date: 19 May 1998 14:47:39 EDT In a message dated 98-05-19 14:22:33 EDT, you write: << Some video cards are slower than others when changing modes. Nick >> Thanks Nick...for confirming my belief that Win95 always runs ontop of dos. { Typing " "ver" in dos produces version 4.1 in my machine and 6.1 in the other } I'll look into the video card suggestion. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: (fractint) Bug in formula parser ? (v. 19.6) Date: 19 May 1998 21:36:41 +0100 During my experiments om mutating M-sets by strategically placing additional parameters inside the formula I have noticed a bug/feature of the formula parser. It might have been already noticed by somebody else but I just want to make sure the developers know about it. The following formula: okM_01{ z=0 c=pixel: z=z*z*z*z/(z*z+p1)+c |z|<=8 } converges to the standard Mandelbrot with p1 approaching 0. When p1 is set to any non-zero value, everything works as it should. But when p1 is set to 0 all of a sudden the M-set disappears completely. This also happens when the formula is rewritten using sqr() or z^n notation. Try writing the Mandel formula as z = z^4 / z^2. It won't work. Of course there is a singlularity at (0,0), but the rest of the formula should just work out fine. Who has an answer ? Oliver Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Bug in formula parser ? (v. 19.6) Date: 19 May 1998 15:48:22 -0500 Oliver, - The following formula: - - okM_01{ z=0 - c=pixel: - z=z*z*z*z/(z*z+p1)+c - |z|<=8 - } - - converges to the standard Mandelbrot with p1 approaching 0. z*z+p1 also converges to zero (on the first iteration) as p1 approaches zero. This causes a divide by zero error (undefined result) and the parser stops iterating. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Pars for the course Date: 19 May 1998 14:57:47 -0500 Popcornjul_04 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=popcornjul passes=1 center-mag=-0.00000000000000011/+0.00000000000000011/1.234348/1.3333 params=0.045331 float=y maxiter=255 bailout=64 inside=bof61 outside=summ symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000Bhq<5>BQ3<3>a_4<2>VMOSHVPCaM7hR9e<2>fGXlJUpTPubK<7>2AP<7>l1L<2\ >FTZ<4>wn5wbKvRZ<3>wNK<8>E8M<6>tGt<2>KR`<5>vx7<3>Dok<5>R15<7>qCm<2>oz1<3\ >o0c<6>35w<6>hvS<3>sT7<2>lMOiJUfG_cDeeGdhKbkNa000000000waVzeT<7>RG_<2>dP\ _iS`nV`sZasYU<2>rS5<4>B6I<7>n9E<2>iXlgdwcjuZorVup<2>gU`<3>wpH<2>zPrvDZq1\ F<5>eGX<3>t3r<3>CvhB4HM9YYEn<6>ivz<4>4JbS_jops<3>WGl<5>rMP<3>wcB<4>a0L<6\ >y2y<5>S8t<2>eEm<2>J`p cyclerange=1/1 } Popcornjul_05 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=popcornjul passes=1 center-mag=-0.00000000000000011/+0.00000000000000011/1.234348/1.3333 params=0.010101 float=y maxiter=255 bailout=144 inside=bof61 outside=summ symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzz<15>E0SF0UH0X<12>407zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12\ >808zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<1\ 5>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020 cyclerange=1/1 } Popcornjul_06 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=popcornjul passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000005/-0.00000000000000005/126.5738/1.3333 params=0.8080889999999999 float=y maxiter=8 bailout=400 inside=zmag outside=mult symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzz50N<5>206zzz<15>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020wwx<14>E0SF0U\ H0X<12>407zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12>808zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0\ <12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<6>60Q cyclerange=1/1 } Popcornjul_07 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=popcornjul passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000000/+0.00000000000000000/0.4444444/1.3333 params=-0.00657 float=y maxiter=50 bailout=36 inside=zmag outside=summ symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzz<15>E0SF0UH0X<12>407zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12\ >808zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<1\ 5>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020 cyclerange=1/1 } Popcornjul_08 { ; 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Heck no! Date: 19 May 1998 15:19:05 -0500 Linda Allison wrote: > > But the subscriber's to this list, including > myself, haven't done a great job of following Tim's requests so far. > We post off-topic messages. When we respond to a message, we tend to > include most or all of the original message in our reponse. > > I agree with Maria. I'd like to see the list left the way it is now. > I side with Linda in wanting to keep all Fractint-related mail on one list server. Another problem that is quite noticeable with the present operation of this list server is that there are far too many complimentary personal messages being sent; messages that tell someone that he or she has written an interesting formula, made a pretty color map or created an interesting design. We all don't have to be apprised of that. Send your compliment to that person by private e-mail--I do. I participate on other mailing lists and have found that when the traffic flow drops too much and there isn't very much dialog, then others tend to unsubscribe from the lists because of the lack of activity. I'm sure the newbies that have joined us in recent months would be happy to know that someone always will be around to answer whatever questions they may have and not feel that those questions will go unanswered because others have gotten fed up with all the e-mail clutter and either decided to become mute or else unsubscribe from the list. This is a great and informative list server. Let's keep it that way with continued open discussion and the sharing of formula and parameter files, and color maps. Bob Now for a word from our sponsor: Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) Split the lis Date: 19 May 1998 16:32:25 -0400 >>I agree with Maria. I'd like to see the list left the way it is now. I also agree with Marie and Linda, and for pretty much the same reasons (which I won't bother to repeat to keep the posting short). Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Fractal art is a topic in upcoming book Date: 19 May 1998 18:28:49 -0500 Hi Fractalizens: I received information from an outside source that Ivars Peterson, a journalist and author specializing in mathematics, was currently writing a book about mathematics and art. The book, Fragments of Infinity: A Kaleidoscope of Mathematics and Art, is scheduled for publication by Wiley next year. Since we were discussing books about fractals on the Undernet and on the Fractint list server, I asked Mr. Peterson if his proposed book would mention fractal art. It appears that it will. Appended here is my inquiry to him and his response (in reverse order). Bob "Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval Fractals" Margolis ======================== Fractals will certainly come up in several contexts. Thanks for your interest. ************************************ Ivars Peterson Math/Physics Editor & Online Editor Science News 1719 N Street, NW Washington, DC 20036-2888 Internet: ip@sciserv.org Tel: 202-872-5116 Fax: 202-659-0365 ************************************ Check out the SCIENCE NEWS Web site at http://www.sciencenews.org/, and Ivars Peterson's MathTrek, a weekly online math column, at http://www.maa.org/news/columns.html. ______________________________ Reply Separator _____________________________ Author: at SSMAIL Hi: Will your upcoming book Fragments of Infinity have a chapter regarding fractals and art? We're compiling a list of fractals-related books on a fractals-related list server and wonder if we should keep a lookout for release of your book. Bob Margolis rttyman@wwa.com ====================== Now for a word fron our sponsor: Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractal books Date: 19 May 1998 20:25:29 -0400 Thanks. I definately don't want to both with it if it's too math oriented. I got as far as college Algebra and through in the towel, so if it requires calc or trig knowlege, I refuse to look at it. I just took a glance at amazon.com, and I've pasted a list of what sounds good below...hopefully some of you guys have read these, and can tell me if they're worth it. :) Fractals : The Patterns of Chaos : A New Aesthetic of Art, Science, and Nature by John Briggs http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671742175/u/002-2486309-9601000 Chaos in Wonderland : Visual Adventures in a Fractal World by Clifford A. Pickover http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/031212774X/u/002-2486309-9601000 The Science of Fractal Images by Heinz-Otto Peitgen, Dietmar Saupe (Editor) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0387966080/u/002-2486309-9601000 The Pattern Book : Fractals, Art, and Nature by Clifford A. Pickover (Editor) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/981021426X/u/002-2486309-9601000 An Eye for Fractals : A Graphic and Photographic Essay by Michael McGuire http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201554402/u/002-2486309-9601000 (There was no info about this one at all, but it sounds interesting from the title. Anyone read it?) And, if anyone cares, all of Amazon's fractal books are here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/cache/browse/science---nature/mathematics/ fractals/list/002-2486309-9601000 (Be sure to paste that in. That's one long URL.) Anyway, they all sound interesting. Expensive, but interesting. But there's always the library. I'm sure at least one of them will help me. Again, I'd prefer one that concentrates on the artistic side of fractals. Also, one that looks explicitly at Fractint would be good. :) In the mean-time I can read fractint.doc :) Bud wrote; [my questions about Michael Barnsley's book snipped] > Well, unfortunately the answers are yes (real-life fractals > and yes (heavy math). It is fairly rigorous - it's a college > mathematics text. But there is a lot of good data on > diverse fractal types, and some really cool images > (but that's par for the course for fractal books). It is > also my most frequently used fractal text (yes, I > actually *own* this one!) What's special about this > book is its thorough coverage of the Collage Theorem > (which Barnsley discovered), it applications, and related > mathematics. > > For the "fractals in everyday life" theme, unless something > better has been done since (and please correct me if I'm > wrong - my research is limited to what my local libraries > have), the best is still Benoit Mandelbrot's "The Fractal > Geometry of Nature" (W. H. Freeman & Co., New York, 1982). > (Of course, it *also* has a lot of math - Mandelbrot was trying > to model the stock market's behavior when he discovered > fractal mathematics).... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) another Gedeon Euler formula Date: 19 May 1998 19:51:09 -0500 (CDT) The two Euler formulas of Gedeon's that I posted Sunday, Euler_3Way and Euler2_3Way, both had the same typo in them. The line that reads: skip_ters = imag(p3) should read: skip_iters = imag(p3) This typo didn't make any difference with the pars I included because I hadn't intended on skipping any iterations, but may have caused some confusion if you tried different values for imag(p3) and found that nothing changed. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Here's a formula and pars that are kind of interesting. comment { This formula and pars demonstrate how a different colormap can change not only the colors of the elements in an image, but can also change their pseudo-3D shapes as well. First make the image using the mag1j2_1 par. Then with the image on the screen, run the new_colors par. Try the same thing with the mag1j2_2 and mag1j2_3 pars. The equation iterated is the Model I magnetic phase transition equation from "The Beauty of Fractals," called, I think, magnetj1 in Fractint. The rendering method is similar to, but different than, my 3Way rendering method. This method I haven't named yet. Paul Carlson } frm:Mag1_J2 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; p1 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p2) = controls size of elements ; imag(p2) not used ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; z = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 pw = pixel c = p1 max_ratio = real(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / max_ratio : w = ((pw * pw + c - 1) / (pw + pw + c - 2))^2 ; ratio = |pw| / |w| pw = w IF (ratio < max_ratio && iter > 0) bailout = 1 z = factor * ratio + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20 } mag1j2_1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mag1j2.frm formulaname=mag1_j2 passes=t center-mag=-0.00428947/0.00886185/0.2718692/1/-90 params=2/0/1/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=40000U00UF2F<27>xUxzVzzVz<91>C0C00U0DD<47>UxxVzzVzz<72\ >0CC000<3>000 } mag1j2_2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mag1j2.frm formulaname=mag1_j2 passes=t center-mag=-2.16244/2.38341/3.999238/1/-90 params=0/1.5/0.23/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=400C0C<29>xUxzVzzVz<91>C0C0CC<48>UxxVzzVzz<72>0CC00000\ 000Z000000 } mag1j2_3 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mag1j2.frm formulaname=mag1_j2 passes=t center-mag=0.632289/1.19113/2.328461/1/-72.5 params=-1/0/0.5/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zVz<123>G0GVzz<123>0GG00000000K000000 } new_colors { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 colors=000zVz<59>C0COOO<63>zzzzzzyyy<57>OOOC0C<62>zVz00000000\ N000000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) another Gedeon Euler formula Date: 19 May 1998 21:33:08 -0400 At 07:33 PM 5/17/1998 -0500, you wrote: >comment { >This formula applies my 3Way rendering method to the >second of Gedeon's Euler formulas. (snipped) This morning I was up early. About 4:45 A.M., and having some time made one of the better fractals I have ever made. Especially as I was using Lindaa15 color map. It _was_ a _good_ fractal, and one I intended to print out on photo film @1440 dpi... First, of course, the image needed to be saved, as does everything worthwhile and even not so worth while on a computer. Accordingly I hit "b", carefully inserted all information. After checking all of the info for accuracy, I proceeded to hit "Enter" to save the par. Before my finger hit "Enter", the power went out. None of the above has anything to do with the following two pars. These two pars simply have somewhat different color maps applied. The banding, to me, gives the impression of steps leading to, perhaps, Mayan or Aztec alters, thus the names: ==========================================================================> Alter_to_Sun { ; David Shanholtzer May 19, 1998 t= 0:00:25.49 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; color map: dav53a ; From Euler2_3way by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.par formulaname=euler2_3way function=sqr/log/asinh passes=t center-mag=0.001899/0.00980135/0.4541629/1.2858 params=17/0/1.11/0/2048/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000Q5p000<55>000A20<10>yhW<22>A20P00<7>wAA<7>P00U0U<8>www<10>U0U0\ 00<17>000MC7<6>yhW<14>A20000<70>0000AU<5>0mzK0pM1pO3p } Alter_to_Stars { ; David Shanholtzer May 19, 1998 t= 0:00:25.49 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; color map: dav53b ; From Euler2_3way by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.par formulaname=euler2_3way function=sqr/log/asinh passes=t center-mag=0.001899/0.00980135/0.4541629/1.2858 params=17/0/1.11/0/2048/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000<59>000P00<7>wAA<7>P00U0U<8>www<10>U0U000<17>000MC7<6>yhW<14>A\ 20000<70>0000AU<5>0mzK0p<2>Q5p000<30>000 } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VRCH78B@prodigy.com (MR CHARLES F CROCKER) Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 19.6 hangs on 0- Date: 19 May 1998 22:20:28, -0500 Interesting. I wonder what effects are being seen here. It appears that it is system sensitive. Maybe Bill Gates should be passed all of this information. On my system (Pentium 90) if I give Fractint an empty parameter file on startup it draws the Mandelbrot set that you would have gotten if you hit enter three times. If a picture has been drawn before the empty par is run the last screen is displayed instantly. In other words the empty parameter is totally ignored. Charles Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: No Fotn Date: 19 May 1998 19:54:51 -0700 Ray... My observation of optimal times to check out fractals and other web goodies is (in order of ease). 1. Saturday and Sunday AM 2. Any weekday afternoon (except Monday) after the market but before dinner time on the left coast (Friday afternoon being especially good). 3. Saturday and Sunday afternoons Angela Ray Montgomery wrote: > > Hi Paul > > Thanks for the response. I'd better choose a different time for my > meanderings. > > Ray Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) slow dos??? Date: 19 May 1998 20:04:12 -0700 Steve... I just gave up a Pent 100 in favor of a Pent II 266. My Pent II 266 is about the same as my old 100 in accessing dos parameter screens. I have a Matrox Millenia II 8MB video card in my new 266 and had a 2MB Diamond stealth card in the old machine. Currently I'm hooked to a 19" monitor and before it was a 14" monitor. Most likely the accessing is dependent on the video card/monitor combo rather than on CPU speed. I have a 66mhz motherboard in both cases, although my new board has a larger cache and will accept the more advanced dimms. I have heard folks on this list mention slow access times and "clicks" for some monitor/card combos. I must have gotten lucky and ordered the right parts (I asked for a LOT of advice from this list before I selected components for my new puter). I'm happy as a clam......same access time as on my old pent and much faster fractal generation. Angela > > Check my logic here please. > > Win 95 runs 'on top' of dos version 4.1 in my machine. > Win 95 always runs on top of dos? Even later versions of dos....say 6.1? > Could one say there is a major difference between dos v.4 and v 6 to > the point > that v.6 is an 'emulation ' { of earlier versions} and actually runs on top > of windows? > I'm trying to justify the drag in response time, accessing paramater > screens, > between my machine T.I. pent 100.... and my friends machine Pent.II 266. > My machine { the pent 100 } is much faster accessing dos parameter screens in > fractint. {of course the 266 generates faster } but drag in the 266 opening > z,x,y,i,@ ....is annoying. I talked to the maker of the 266 and the razel > dazel he gave me didn't sound believable... so I'm asking people I trust. :-) > Any comment or input is welcome. > Thanks > ~~^~~^~~^ > Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 19 May 1998 20:08:10 -0700 I agree with Linda and Maria. For those concerned with pars, good suggestions were posted....use the digest or use Les St. Clair's admirable service to this group......download all the pars and frm from his homepage. I'd prefer to keep this list as it is because I want to not only see the pars but understand some of the ideas people have when they make them. Angela Mike and Linda Allison wrote: > ><> > > I agree with Maria. I'd like to see the list left the way it is now. > > Linda > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Another Paul Carlson Formula -- More Pars Date: 19 May 1998 20:22:32 -0700 Pat....(and other newbies) In response to questions like yours, I've posted a collection of "starter" information on my homepage at http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/graphic_hints.htm I can't promise that it's the best organized page or will answer all your questions, but it's a start. As we get good answers to specific newcomer questions I try to grab them and post them. Also, Janet Preslar posts a list of resources every couple of weeks and many of those have excellent hints and advice.....so look for her posts. Hope my info helps.... Angela p.s. I'm still learning all of the things fractint can do too p.p.s. consider joining us in fractal chat Saturday am Pat Bodine wrote: > > Hello. My name is Patrick Bodine and I have been lurking in the background > for quite a while. I am a long time user of fractint but I have never > inputted my own parameters. Frankly I don't know how. I never knew you could > until I subscribed to this list. I have however saved and printed as many as > I could hoping that sometime in the future they could be accessed. I first > purchased the book with the program many years ago and have just been > zooming in . I later bought the cd and also just went a-zooming along > blissfully ignorant of the possibilities. It has been a long time since the > old Commodore days when I would start a picture, go to bed, and see it the > next day! If you could just find the time to send me some instructions, I > would greatly appreciate it. I seem to have misplaced my book (it is > probably in storage somewhere). I also downloaded the latest version but it > also has eluded my understanding.Again any help would be greatly > appreciated. THANKS > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: (fractint) No Fotn...you can't stand it? Try this... Date: 19 May 1998 20:32:45 -0700 Hi folks, I see some of you are frustrated when FotN is late. Understood. I'm cross-posting this because ... well you just gotta see this... For a very limited time, while there is space on my site for it, you can find out why I play with fractals.... Down load this: Badday.mpg in a 388kB zip file. It is an Mpeg where we see a guy loose it with his computer. One of the funniest 25 seconds yet! http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotNindx.html#The latest He needs some fractal time real soon! Naaah, it is too late... I hope you are having as much fun viewing FotN as I have creating it. Believe me, I am as surprised each night with what happens to Dr. J, the Mad Scientist of FractoSpace. I often sit down saying "OK, now where were we? Oh yes, Dr. J was ..... so now he should ......" Fill in the blanks. It matters not what with, since I have to find a picture to go with the story. Well, often the desired image is nowhere to be found and some other appears. And then the story changes in an unexpected direction. Surprise! :-) Keep your cool, Jay Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 19 May 1998 22:34:38 -0500 Wise Wizzle, a whiz of a wiz, says: > > For those concerned with pars, good suggestions > were posted....use the digest or use Les St. Clair's admirable service to this > group......download all the pars and frm from his homepage. > > I'd prefer to keep this list as it is because I want to not only see the pars but understand some of the ideas people have when they make them. > We must also remember that not everyone has Web access, so they would be left out if Fractint data are posted there. A still others may have no Usenet access either, if that was offered as a solution. The Undernet is not a great solution either, although last Saturday's chat brought out a wealth of information and ideas. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRD1950 Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 19 May 1998 23:58:10 EDT When I first got the list coming to my mail box I didn't realize the amount of messages. Is there anyway that I can get dropped from the fractint mail list? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) Xfractint users unite! Date: 19 May 1998 23:46:52 -0600 I am looking for folks who use Xfractint, or at least can compile it on their system. I need beta testers. If you are interested, send me private email. If I've asked this before and you expressed interest, better remind me! Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 19 May 1998 23:46:52 -0600 Re the split the list proposal. Opinions on both sides were expressed, and I have decided for the time being to not split the list. We can reconsider this again sometime later. I have another suggestion, though. Newer mail clients have the ability to sort messages into various folders by searching for strings in addresses, subjects, or even the message body. I use Pegasus, and I couldn't manage without this capability. I suggest we figure out some easy-to-remember string of three or four letters that could be put in the subjects of messages that contain PARs or FRMs, but would be unlikely to otherwise be in the subject.Then those who are interested could sort PARs into their own mail folder. I don't know how well this would work because if you unthinkingly reply to such a message, it would have the same string in the subject. But on the other hand, it couldn't hurt. Any proposals for such a string? Maybe something dumb like "PARX". Obviously "PAR" or "PARS" won't do because these might be in a subject anyway. Then again, maybe one could just set the mail software to search for curly brackets in the message body! Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint 19.6 hangs on 0- Date: 20 May 1998 00:53:04 -0400 // Maybe Bill Gates should be passed all of=20 // this information. Naw, I'm sure the DOJ is giving him plenty to do. If he has any reason = to get bored, though, it's having to hear the same baseless accusations = of microsoft's "monopolizing the market". Gee, last I checked, they = didn't *make* me install *anything* on my computer. I did it because = it's damn good software. (my 1.9999999999999999999999999999999999 cents. = :) ) Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 19.6 hangs on 0-length parfiles Date: 20 May 1998 00:20:30 -0600 Paul said: > Seems there's a quite serious, overlooked bug in Fractint v19.6 accessing a > 0-length PAR file. A 0-length par file shows up in the list of PARs from > hitting @, but if you select it, it won't say "No entries available" or > anything such, instead the par-selection screen will shift up a line and > Fractint will silently hang. I can't duplicate this problem. Can anyone else? Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Split the list? Not this time! Date: 20 May 1998 00:24:49 -0500 Tim Wegner wrote: > > Re the split the list proposal. Opinions on both sides were expressed, and I have decided for the time being to not split the list. HOORAY! > I suggest we figure out some easy-to-remember string of three or > four letters that could be put in the subjects of messages that > contain PARs or FRMs, but would be unlikely to otherwise be in the > subject.Then those who are interested could sort PARs into their own > mail folder. I don't know how well this would work because if you > unthinkingly reply to such a message, it would have the same string in > the subject. But on the other hand, it couldn't hurt. > > Any proposals for such a string? On another list server I subscribe to, where there also is a heavy volume of mail traffic, we use three- and four-letter strings similar to what you have in mind, so that members can select which messages they want to save in folders. PAR: Three designs based on a Paul Carlson formula. In this example, PAR is used once as an introduction and not in the Subject. FRM: Three variations on gravijul. Again, a one-time use of a string. MAP: Six metallic-looking palettes. Ditto on the string useage, substituting palette for map in the subject. HELP: Please explain periodicity. For those who don't want to read the fractint.doc. DISC: Is it necessary to port Fractint to Windows? DISC=discussion. HARD: Fractint doesn't work with my video card. For hardware-related problems. MISC: For other on-topic matters that don't fall into the above categories. Art shows, making posters and T-shirts using fractal images, suggestions for further Fractint improvement (as if it needed any), etc. Just my two meticais worth. (Meticais: Plural of metical, a unit of currency in Mozambique.) Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAksoy Subject: Re: (fractint): Extracting PARs w. Notepad Search funct. Date: 20 May 1998 03:45:09 EDT In a message dated 98-05-19 13:40:06 EDT, you write: << <<>> Hi there... Often I get the pars and frms from the digest. I use note pad. I select search find and type formulafile or reset=1960 and I hit search. I'm led directly to what I want. The digest is a cool thing! Steve >> Hi Steve, Thanks for the info! I just started subscribing to the digest and I tried the Notepad search find function using your keywords. It does its work well in tracking down PARs and FRMs! Mark Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Fox Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 20 May 1998 09:10:37 +0100 (BST) > Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 23:58:10 -0400 (EDT) > From: BRD1950 > Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list! > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Reply-to: fractint@lists.xmission.com > When I first got the list coming to my mail box I didn't realize the amount of > messages. Is there anyway that I can get dropped from the fractint mail list? > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net The line below tells you how to do it. > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > ie send a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with the body of the message as unsubscribe fractint Don't forget that you can get a single message summary of the messages by subscribing to the 'digest', and there is a monthly summary of all the parameters and formulas compiled by Les St Clair (some of the messages have mentioned this) Jerry Fox Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brederlow Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Conic Sections coloring methods Date: 20 May 1998 12:24:31 +0200 Kerry Mitchell writes: > Did anyone actually see and/or read that 20K tome I posted a few days ago? > Just curious. > > Kerry Mitchell Didn't get any, could you send a copy to me please. May the Source be with you. Mrvn Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Kaplan Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 20 May 1998 08:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Tim wrote: > I have another suggestion, though. Newer mail clients have the ability to sort > messages into various folders by searching for strings in addresses, subjects, > or even the message body. I use Pegasus, and I couldn't manage without this > capability. I suggest we figure out some easy-to-remember string of three or > four letters that could be put in the subjects of messages that contain PARs or > FRMs, but would be unlikely to otherwise be in the subject.Then those who are > interested could sort PARs into their own mail folder. I don't know how well this > would work because if you unthinkingly reply to such a message, it would have > the same string in the subject. But on the other hand, it couldn't hurt. I like it... on most UNIX boxes, a program called "procmail" will be availible, which would enable users of elm or pine or whatever to do the same thing. All PC mail clients popular today can also do this, so that covers most everyone, except maybe AOL users. > Then again, maybe one could just set the mail software to search for curly > brackets in the message body! I don't know if Pegasus or Eudora can do this- actually, I'd be pretty sure the new full version of Eudora can, but I don't know that the shareware version can. Procmail certainly can. But of course, this might often mistakenly move posts that are basically about other topics but have example pars in them... and fixes for that reach a level of diminishing returns, where you always have some mail going to the wrong place... so I like the subject line idea. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) Split the list? Not this time! Date: 20 May 1998 10:29:45 -0400 Bob wrote; > PAR: Three designs based on a Paul Carlson formula. In this example, PAR > is used once as an introduction and not in the Subject. > > FRM: Three variations on gravijul. Again, a one-time use of a string. > > MAP: Six metallic-looking palettes. Ditto on the string useage, > substituting palette for map in the subject. > > HELP: Please explain periodicity. For those who don't want to read the > fractint.doc. > > DISC: Is it necessary to port Fractint to Windows? DISC=discussion. > > HARD: Fractint doesn't work with my video card. For hardware-related > problems. > > MISC: For other on-topic matters that don't fall into the above > categories. Art shows, making posters and T-shirts using fractal images, > suggestions for further Fractint improvement (as if it needed any), etc. These sound good to me. What worries me, is what Tim mentioned- that these lines could be in the subject anyway. Example subj: How do I make a par or frm file? This message probably wouldn't have any frms or pars, but would be grabbed by the filter. How about using characters to seperate these strings? Example subj: Have a good weekend |PAR|FRM or : Problem w/ xyz.frm |FRM|PAR|HELP (filter searches for |string , which I doubt would be found anywhere else) The nice thing about that format, is we can have multiple strings in messages. For instance, it may be useful if all pars were dumped into a par folder, exept those asking for help(which probably are more important to most people). As far as replies, I don't see a problem with removing the strings that don't apply. What do you guys think about this?? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractal books Date: 20 May 1998 11:45:41 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 19 May 1998, RJ Corradino wrote: > Thanks. I definately don't want to both with it if it's too math oriented. > I got as far as college Algebra and through in the towel, No wonder -- in college, algebra, trig, and calculus seem rather disconnected from the rest of the world, and you're in constant danger of getting a bad grade, so you have stress. (I didn't experience it this way, but that's because I spent most of my non-class time thinking about math anyway.) > so if it requires calc or trig knowlege, I refuse to look at it. Things are different now -- you're not in school, you don't need "rigorous" knowledge, only intuitive knowledge, no one will laugh at you, no one will test you, etc. It should be much less discouraging -- especially if you have fractint@xmission.com to turn to for help :) Myself, I learned trig so I could write programs to put dots on the screen that moved in different directions with the same speed. All I had to learn was to multiply the cosine with the speed to get the x-velocity, and multiply the sine with the speed to get the y-velocity, and get some sort of a weak groping understanding of why -- and I was on my way. Maybe the same sort of thing could work for you. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol Date: 20 May 1998 11:37:42 -0500 Senor Corradino wrote: > > Bob wrote; > These sound good to me. What worries me, is what Tim mentioned- that these > lines could be in the subject anyway. Example subj: How do I make a par or > frm file? This message probably wouldn't have any frms or pars, but would > be grabbed by the filter. In this case there would be no three- or four-letter string introduction to the subject header. It would be easier to write "How do I write params and formulas?" that would avoid the string altogether. Or, a synonym can be used. Trouble is there are none for "parameter" in my Roget's, but a good one for formula is "recipe." So, params and recipe could be urged to be used as subject line headers along with palette(s) for MAP. recipe How about using characters to seperate these > strings? > > Example subj: Have a good weekend |PAR|FRM > or > : Problem w/ xyz.frm |FRM|PAR|HELP Perhaps this is a solution, as long as it doesn't get in the way of the typing. Perhaps #FRM: %PAR:, or any other character on the upper line, i.e., ~!@#$%^&*()_+{}|<>, where one could keep one finger on the Shift key while typing in the character. This would rule out using `-=[]\;'/ which makes the typing harder--for me at least. But we would have to choose a character that will be found on everyone's keyboard. A $ here in the States will be a British Pound Sterling sign in the UK, and another character on Arabian, Thai, Russian, Japanese, and other worldwide keyboards. This is why I am hesitant to select characters to use; everyone has to have the same ones on the same keys. FRM:, PAR:, and MAP: avoids that problem. As a matter of fact, even the colon (:) is not on every type of keyboard, but its use has not caused any problem that I'm aware of on the other list server I subscribe to in which three- and four-letter introductory strings are used. In the end, whatever is the easiest for the majority of us should be the established rule. Bob We now pause for a five-line commercial: Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Kaplan Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol Date: 20 May 1998 12:50:38 -0400 (EDT) My personal vote is that we not immediately attempt to separate out so many categories of posts. Start with just isolating PARs and FRMs, and if we still have too much volume in the "everything else" group we can divide it up further later... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol Date: 20 May 1998 12:00:59 -0500 Ian wrote: > > My personal vote is that we not immediately attempt to separate out so > many categories of posts. Start with just isolating PARs and FRMs, and if > we still have too much volume in the "everything else" group we can > divide it up further later... > An intelligent idea which I accept. Simplify. Simplify. Simplify. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint) Re: (fractintCODE) Subject line protocol Date: 20 May 1998 13:45:22 EDT In a message dated 98-05-20 13:04:04 EDT, you write: "everything else" group we can > divide it up further later... > << Simplify. Simplify. Simplify. >> Hi there... One thing is always the same in the subject line. (fractint) What if we {to start} consider 4 versions of that in the subject line. With in the "( fractint )" could be the area reserved for "code" developed and expanded by our necessity. Its an area that can be used without treading on the content of the subject line. Tim could take sugestions for the code to use and if necessary as time passes, present an update of the protocol to use. option one: (fractint)= no pars or frms (fractintF) (fractintP) (fractintFP)=frm and par included option two: (fractint)= no pars or prms (fractint:)=frm included (fractint;)=par included (fractint:;)=par and frm included Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint) (fractintCODE)test: ignore this one! Date: 20 May 1998 13:52:36 EDT t Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint):;protocol Date: 20 May 1998 14:10:15 EDT OK...{duh} ....no I see why.... How about after the (fractint)? (fractint): = frm (fractint); = par (fractint):; = frm +par Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)/ \\\ protocol visibility 1 frm + 3pars Date: 20 May 1998 14:19:51 EDT Sorry....too mich coffee: I'm just testing the visibility of possibilities for codes in subject line. / = frm \ = par \\= 2 pars //\\\\\\ etc. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Filtering E-mail Date: 20 May 1998 14:31:48 -0500 Eudora Light 3 (this is the free version) can filter messages. Its filtering features are more limited than the Pro (pricey) version, but it's sufficient to do the job. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: (fractintCODE) Subject line protocol Date: 20 May 1998 14:36:50 -0500 SKarl, - One thing is always the same in the subject line. - (fractint) That's because the mailing list software (Majordomo) puts it there if it isn't already present. If you put something between the t and ) then Majordomo won't see that as (fractint) and it will just insert (fractint) back into the subject line. If you want to put something on the subject line, it's going to have to be outside the (fractint) part. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) time consumption Date: 20 May 1998 15:06:35 -0700 Here's an idea- I am spending a huge amount of time cutting and pasting pars and correcting the little errors. So is everyone else. I don't want to wait for the end of the month to download it from Les's site (Thanks for doing that, Les!) because I like to see what people have done and said in response to other people's work. What if a number of people who are adept at editing the pars took turns collecting them and posting them every few days? I tend to save them and do them every few 4 or 5 days anyway. The only problem I can see with that is then you'd have a large frm file and large par file under a date rather than under individual names and you would have to index it in some way to find things later. As much as it seems there are a very large number of postings to this list, in fact I can skim through and delete lots of messages very quickly. It's getting it into Fractint that takes the time. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) MIRC? Date: 20 May 1998 17:24:43 -0600 To the Kind & Merciful, I know it has been posted, probably a couple of times, but I have just spent at least a half hour sorting through a mountain of papers trying to find where I put it. And that is, how to get that MIRC program that allows you to chat. If anybody can post it again for me, I'd appreciate it - but ask that you use dunderhead terminology, nothing technical and nothing that presumes I know anything about 'bring up this- or that" (beyond watching our puppy throw-up after getting up on the table and finishing off a bag of potato chips). Thanks in advance. Ray Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) MIRC? Date: 20 May 1998 18:57:13 -0500 Ray Montgomery wrote: > > ......, how to get that MIRC program that allows you to chat. > Try the following website: http://www.geocities.com/~mirc/ You may get the ICQ from the following: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/ P.N.L. Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Barnsley Petals Formula Date: 20 May 1998 19:21:39 -0500 (CDT) In the Petals_Barnsley1 formula, the line that reads: index_factor = colors_in_range / (r2 + r2) should read: index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / (r2 + r2) I'm sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Spirals Formula Date: 20 May 1998 19:23:53 -0500 (CDT) I've always been fascinated by spirals. Spirals have been used as religious symbols back to the dawn of humankind. Spirals occur frequently both in nature and in fractals. In nature, spirals occur whenever growth must take place in a limited space. In fractals, they also occur where space is limited. comment { This formula applies my Truncated 3D Stalks rendering method to a set of spiral-producing equations. All five of the spirals are very different from one another. Enjoy! Paul Carlson } frm:Spir2_Trunc {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; ; p1 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p2) = a factor controlling the width of stalks ; imag(p2) = max. |w| for stalks (truncation value) ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; w = pixel c = p1 z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0 stalk_width = real(p2) max_wm = imag(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width : w = w * w - c, wr = real(w), awr = abs(wr) w = w - wr + awr awr = abs(real(w)), awi = abs(imag(w)) IF (awr <= awi) dist = awr ELSE dist = awi ENDIF ; IF (dist < stalk_width && |w| < max_wm && iter > 1) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 bailout = 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 4 } aztec_spir { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirals.frm formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1 center-mag=-0.307039/0.406097/6.666667/1/-27.498 params=-0.378083004695/0.227300793319/0.03/0.1/2/125 float=y maxiter=20000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000W2<123>080zz0<123>aG0000<3>000 } bifurc_spir { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirals.frm formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1 center-mag=-0.247437/0.451841/14.50284 params=-0.392126738/0.227791005/0.025/0.2/8/30 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000zz<28>0CC0zz<28>0CCz88<28>O00z88<28>O000zz<28>0CC0\ zz<28>0CCz88<28>O00z88<28>O00000<13>000 } quilted_spir { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirals.frm formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1 center-mag=-0.280438/0.449687/13.33333 params=-0.404509412207/0.197380074739/0.1/0.08/2/125 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zqa<123>WRFz88<123>O00000<3>000 } spiral_2way { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirals.frm formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1 center-mag=-0.363167/0.309344/8.503401 params=-0.321397740595/0.047469531482/0.03/0.05/8/30 float=y maxiter=30000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zy0<28>aG0z0f<28>O080zz<28>0CCzW0<28>c40fOz<28>I0K0\ zR<28>0C4z88<28>O00GGz<28>00O000<13>000 } trunc_spir { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirals.frm formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1 center-mag=0.179656/-0.304697/19.1022 params=0.642814531455/0.062304266806/0.05/0.1/8/30 float=y maxiter=30000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<27>J1MI0KGGz<28>00Oz88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>a\ G00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCz0f<28>O08000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) MIRC? Date: 20 May 1998 20:33:06 -0400 Ok...first off, you can download it at www.mirc.com . Now...when you run the program, login to the server us.undernet.org . When you are on that server, a dialogue box will pop up asking you what channel you want. This box will also have a section to store your favorite channels, with quite a few chans already stored in. You can add or delete whatever you like. We will be in #fractals , I think. I also suggest you stop by #mirchelp if you ever need help learning the program(or ask me :-)) Have fun! IRC is almost as addicting as fractint! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colleen Johnson Subject: Re: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 20 May 1998 18:46:30 PDT Hello davides At 3:09 p.m. 5/18/98 you wrote: >Watching this thread...just out of curiosity, what is your monitor set = at? I don't have a "Control Panel/Display/Settings" area in my Program Manage= r, if that is what you were referring to. Is that a Windows '95 thing? = I have Windows 3.1. I have a "Control Panel" area, but it doesn't have = a "Display" option anywhere that I can find. Thanks anyway! Colleen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint):;protocol Date: 20 May 1998 19:05:41 -0700 > From: SKarl52884 > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (fractint):;protocol > Date: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 11:10 AM > > OK...{duh} ....no I see why.... > How about after the (fractint)? > (fractint): = frm > (fractint); = par > (fractint):; = frm +par > Please use what saves as a filename in DOS! These emails I save straight to disk with the subject automatically becoming the filename. Then I can sort them in File Explorer and process in some way. Now if you put colons and such in there as significant symbols, they disappear when saving. Besides, the (fractint) is put on by the server, so how would we post? Looks like I would post a par file like this (for the title) par Neato fractal I just found then it would show up as (fractint)par Neato fractal I just found which would work and follow up as Re: (fractint)par Neato fractal I just found which we would have to edit out the par before reply like this Re: (fractint) Neato fractal I just found unless we added in a new par in reply but then someone would think we just forgot to delete the 'par' part. Oh my, I'm beginning to feel like that guy I posted about in the 388kB mpeg file.... http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/Badday.zip where he on a at work surveillance camera smashes his computer! Jay Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) time consumption Date: 20 May 1998 22:59:37 -0400 It isn't a bad idea, but I hate to ask folks to do that. I think it's very, VERY nice of Les to collect them for us, and it's wonderfly useful for me- makes it much easier to learn fractint using old collections from past months. I do agree though, at the end of the month I can never remember what went with what. Les, I wonder if you'd be able to link to the proper posts in the archives(perhaps as a comment, or in the index)? It's very nice to reread the origional post- and see how this particular image was made. I think I'd learn a lot from this! For now, I'm sort of giving up on checking out pars as they come out. I just can't keep up w/ you guys lol. I'll sort try out one or two a day that sound cool, and wait for the monthly motherload... BTW, just so I don't sound like the laziest guy on the planet...I'm disabled(muscular dystrophe). I get very tired very quickly, and certain things on the computer do exhaust me. Any time I need to use the mouse and keyboard at once(like pasting in pars)... Thank you all for understanding. :) > Here's an idea- I am spending a huge amount of time cutting > and pasting pars and correcting the little errors. So is everyone > else. I don't want to wait for the end of the month to download > it from Les's site (Thanks for doing that, Les!) because I like to see > what > people have done and said in response to other people's work. > What if a number of people who are adept at editing the pars took > turns collecting them and posting them every few days? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) PAR: 3 Julias @ z^3+c Date: 20 May 1998 22:10:10 -0500 Julia_01 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-7.10543e-015/3.55271e-015/0.05760475 params=-0.1183700973176474/-0.7963490925176476/3/0 float=y maxiter=750 bailout=100 bailoutest=and inside=maxiter logmap=yes invert=0.338/0/0 biomorph=175 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zz0D0P<8>407zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12>808zzz<15>\ Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<15>sW0wZ0<13\ >850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020wwx<14>E0SF0UH0X<2>E0R cyclerange=1/1 } Julia_02 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-1.13687e-013/1.13687e-013/0.008052434 params=-0.5397674556108939/-0.4227889945646643/3/0 float=y maxiter=750 bailout=100 bailoutest=and inside=maxiter logmap=yes invert=0.5/0/0 biomorph=-132 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000DBK<8>JGTKHUKHT<27>111000000000<3>000011032<27>Amc<25>25514312\ 2000000000000000<16>XgcZje`mhbpjdsmAmc<14>297265133000000000<3>000000001\ 102<40>b0xc0zb0y<32>202000001<17>CAJ cyclerange=1/1 } Julia_03 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-3.41061e-013/1.7053e-013/0.004455947 params=0.1601734369444931/-0.8112967918412282/3/0 float=y maxiter=750 bailout=100 bailoutest=and inside=maxiter logmap=11 invert=0.5/0/0 biomorph=202 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000Q0`00sN0X00lK0T00eH0O00ZE0K00SB0G00L80B00E507007203000z00000z3\ 0000z70000zB0000zF0000zJ0000zM0000zQ0000zU0000wT0000tS0000qQ0000nP0000kN\ 0000hM0000eK0000bJ0zz0_I0vx0XG0qs0UF0lm0RD0gh0OC0bc0LA0YZ0I90ST0F80NO0C6\ 0IJ0950DE0630880320330000Fy3000Fv3000Er3000Dn3000Cj3000Bf3000Ab20009Z200\ 08V20007S20006O20005K10004G10003C1000281000141000<2>000Q0`000N0X000K0T00\ 0H0O000E0K000B0G00080B000507000203000z00<20>zc0<9>000zy0<10>bc0_`0YZ0VW0\ TU0<10>000Fy3<30>121000000<31>000 cyclerange=1/1 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: (fractintCODE) Subject line protocol Date: 20 May 1998 20:49:09 -0700 I find it simple to sort my email by hand.....has never taken more than 10 mins.....but that's on day's I read first...then sort. On sort days I can do it in less time. And since the program in my head filters perfectly, I don't have to re-sort cause the old algorithm put stuff in the wrong folder. Angela aka "low tech" wizzle SKarl52884 wrote: > > In a message dated 98-05-20 13:04:04 EDT, you write: > > "everything else" group we can > > divide it up further later... > > > << Simplify. Simplify. Simplify. > >> > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) Spirals Formula Date: 21 May 1998 00:06:43 -0400 Wow, that's really cool... But tell me, how does it (the stalks method) = work? (That is, how can I apply it to my own formulas?) Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol Date: 20 May 1998 23:19:42 -0600 Ian wrote: > My personal vote is that we not immediately attempt to separate out so > many categories of posts. Start with just isolating PARs and FRMs, and if > we still have too much volume in the "everything else" group we can > divide it up further later... Let's go a step farther toward simplicity, and include PAR in all caps in the subject line of any message that has *either* PARs and Formulas in it. There's no need at this point in separating them. Then anyone who cares and has a sorting mail client can sort the PAR messages to a different place. Of course whether you actually use the header to sort your list in this way is up to you. Everybody have it? Include PAR in the subject of messages that have FRMs or PARs. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) 5 Carlson formula pars Date: 21 May 1998 00:21:31 -0400 Here are 5 pars of Paul's latest formula. I hope you enjoy them. Gedeon ************************************************ gp-spt-01 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 20, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson ; Color map by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1 center-mag=0.298033/-0.540761/33.14359/1/-29.999 params=-0.498/0.21/0.19/0.27/2/125 float=y maxiter=20000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0J0z88<123>O00zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } gp-spt-02 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 20, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson ; Color map by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1 center-mag=0.384877/-0.417948/10.63724 params=-0.418/0.1111/0.21/0.15/2/125 float=y maxiter=20000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } gp-spt-03 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 20, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson ; Color map by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1 center-mag=-0.415609/0.487062/3.698636/1/-147.5 params=-0.444/0.127/0.305/0.115/8/30 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000zz<28>0CC0zz<28>0CCz88<28>O00z88<28>O000zz\ <28>0CC0zz<28>0CCz88<28>O00z88<28>O00000<13>000 } gp-spt-04 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 20, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1 center-mag=-0.215362/0.461327/8.54053 params=-0.3839/0.2669/0.11/0.11/2/125 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ colors=G00GA2<24>3x22z22z22z2<29>H42I22J33<25>\ vTTxUUyVVzWWzYYzXXzWW<28>J33I22I22<28>3Vx2Wz2Yz2Xz\ <29>H34I22I22<26>v2Tx2Uy2Vz2Wz2Yz2X<30>222I22<2>G82 } gp-spt-05 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 20, 1998 ; 0:03:41.24 on P166MMX at 1024x768 ; lkmtch00 map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Spir2_Trunc passes=1 center-mag=0.157334/0.515011/24.08751 params=-0.397/-0.353/0.115/0.185/2/125 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ colors=202YCMY8QaCQa8UY4UY0Ya4Ya0aY4aY8eYCia8ia4ee0ee\ 4ii0ii4ei8ae4ae8YiCYmGYmCaqGaqKYuOYySYyOauKauGeyKeyGiu\ Ciq8iqCem8em4im0mm4qq0qq4mu8myCmy8qu4qu0uy4uy0yu4yq8yq\ 4um8umCyiGyeKyeGuiCui8qi4me8meCqaGqaCmYGmYKqYOuaKuaOy<2\ >Q_yQWuUSuUOqUKmQOmQSqMWqMSmIWmI_qIcuM_uMcyIgyEkyEguAk\ uAoy6sy2wy2su6ou6kq2oq2km6gmAcmAgqEcq<2>ESeAWeA_i6ci2gi\ 2ce6_e6Wa2_a2WY6SYAOYASaEOaEKYIGYMCYMGaIKaIOeISiMOiMKeQ\ GeQKiUGiUCeU8aQCaQ8YU4YU0UQ4UQ0QU4QU8MUCIQ8IQ4MM0MM4\ II0II4MI8QM4QM8UICUEGUECQAGQAKU6OU2SU2OQ6KQ6GM2KM2GI6\ CIA8IACME8ME4IE0EE4AA0AA4E68E2CE28A64A606246642A82A46\ E86EC2IG2MK2MG6IC6I8AI4EM8EMCAQGAQCEUGEUKAUO6QK6QO2<2>\ a_2aW6YS6YOAYKEaOEaSAeWAeSEiWEi_Aic6e_6ec2ig2mk2mg6qk6qo\ 2us2yw2ys6uo6ukAyoAykEugEqcEqgAmcA<2>mSMqWMq_IucIygIyc\ Mu_MuWQy_QyWUuSUqOUqSQmOQmKUiGUeCUeGQiKQiOMiSIeOIeK\ MaGMaKIYGI } -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 17, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol Date: 20 May 1998 23:26:52 -0500 Tim wrote: > > > Everybody have it? Include PAR in the subject of messages that have FRMs or > PARs. > I beat you to it by two hours. See my msg at 22:10. 8-) Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol Date: 21 May 1998 00:59:04 -0400 Some mail readers are real anal (like outlook 98) and dont let you make = 2 separate rules... Well, I mean, I'm trying to make it so that messages = with ONLY '(fractint)' in the subject to one folder, and messages with = '(fractint)' and 'PAR' to another, but the problem is, you only have one = space for the subject entry, so I have to put '(fractint) PAR' or = whatever, but it HAS to have exactly that, one space, same order, and = everything. Not '(fractint) Blah blah blah PAR'. That won't work. I = suggest the standard be something more elaborate (to help out the idiots = like me :) who use OL98) such as '(fractint)PAR' (i.e. one word) so as = not to be confused by OL98 or any other emailers, yet still pass by = majordomo untouched. (That would mean you'd have to manually type in = '(fractint)' though...) Pete // -----Original Message----- // From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com // [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bob Margolis // Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 12:27 AM // To: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol // =20 // =20 // Tim wrote: // >=20 // >=20 // > Everybody have it? Include PAR in the subject of messages=20 // that have FRMs or // > PARs. // >=20 // =20 // I beat you to it by two hours. See my msg at 22:10. 8-) // =20 // Bob // =20 // -------------------------------------------------------------- // Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List // Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com // Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" // Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net // Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" // =20 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol Date: 21 May 1998 00:33:17 -0600 > I beat you to it by two hours. See my msg at 22:10. 8-) Yeah, but I'm the all powerful List Czar. As the Umpire says, "It ain't a strike until I call it." :-) I'm sure the "PAR in headers" proposal won't work for everyone, but I know it will work for Pegasus. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Fox Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol Date: 21 May 1998 09:15:31 +0100 (BST) Tim wrote: > Let's go a step farther toward simplicity, and include PAR in all caps in the > subject line of any message that has *either* PARs and Formulas in it. There's > no need at this point in separating them. Then anyone who cares and has a > sorting mail client can sort the PAR messages to a different place. > > Of course whether you actually use the header to sort your list in this way is up > to you. > > Everybody have it? Include PAR in the subject of messages that have FRMs or > PARs. > > Tim A suggested mod: since I use Pegasus, I already have a filter in place for 'fractint' in the subject, so how about replacing 'PAR' with 'FPAR' (for Fractint Par). This could then be a separate filter applied before 'fractint', and would be unlikely to occur in mail from any other list (I subscribe to a couple of others). Jerry Fox Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Filtering E-mail Date: 20 May 1998 22:32:43 -1000 On 20 May 98 at 14:31, Damien M. Jones wrote: > Eudora Light 3 (this is the free version) can filter > messages. Its filtering features are more limited than > the Pro (pricey) version, but it's sufficient to do the > job. Pegasus Mail's filtering runs rings around Eudora Pro's - and it's free. Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond When the eel bites your heel, that's a moray. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 20 May 1998 23:02:26 -1000 On 20 May 98 at 8:59, Ian Kaplan wrote: > I don't know if Pegasus or Eudora can do this- > actually, I'd be pretty Pegasus can. Can't say about Eudora - gave up on it two years ago. Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond I had a big day today, I filled in a blank expression. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: (fractintCODE) Subject line protocol Date: 21 May 1998 12:27:31 +0100 >option two: > >(fractint)= no pars or prms >(fractint:)=frm included >(fractint;)=par included >(fractint:;)=par and frm included > Terrible. On my monitor, i have to go to about two inches from the screen to see the difference between (fractint) (no pars/frms) and (fractint:) (frm included). Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list? Not this time! Date: 21 May 1998 12:36:05 +0100 >PAR: Three designs based on a Paul Carlson formula. In this example, PAR >is used once as an introduction and not in the Subject. >FRM: Three variations on gravijul. Again, a one-time use of a string. >MAP: Six metallic-looking palettes. Ditto on the string useage, >substituting palette for map in the subject. >HELP: Please explain periodicity. For those who don't want to read the >fractint.doc. >DISC: Is it necessary to port Fractint to Windows? DISC=discussion. >HARD: Fractint doesn't work with my video card. For hardware-related >problems. >MISC: For other on-topic matters that don't fall into the above >categories. Art shows, making posters and T-shirts using fractal images, >suggestions for further Fractint improvement (as if it needed any), etc. TEST: For test mails. Christian Just my two guildercents worth. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 19 May 1998 18:03:59 +0100 Cliff wrote : // >>Speaking of Microsoft's spell checker, try this out: Go into // Word, type // >>'zzzz' and spell-check it and see what's really on Bill Gates' mind. The dutch version of the ms spell checker delivered with office 97 dutch does the same. Christian Strik Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list! Date: 19 May 1998 18:17:34 +0100 MAksoy wrote: >With PARs on a >separate list, they could be explicitly identified by subject title and would >be more efficiently located in the daily rush of incoming email. > Of course I don't know what e-mail reader you use, but e-mail programs like Outlook Express offer the ability to split your inbox in different mailboxes. I personally use 15 inboxes (Including fractint, fractdev and fractal-art) to keep some order. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 19.6 hangs on 0-length parfiles Date: 19 May 1998 18:22:45 +0100 Paul D. wrote: >Seems there's a quite serious, overlooked bug in Fractint v19.6 accessing a >0-length PAR file. A 0-length par file shows up in the list of PARs from >hitting @, but if you select it, it won't say "No entries available" or >anything such, instead the par-selection screen will shift up a line and >Fractint will silently hang. Further keypresses are eaten (the keyboard buffer >doesn't fill up and start beeping) and each one makes the screen scroll a line, >but it seems to be stuck in an infinite loop. Occasionally it will, after >minutes of sitting at the hung screen, spontaneously burp and print a red box >claiming the file doesn't exist, then resume normal activity, but usually the >only recourse is the Vulcan nerve pinch. This bug doesn't occur on my pcs running fractint 19.6. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol Date: 21 May 1998 07:52:47 -0700 I'm just curious...won't putting PAR in the subject line also filter out all of the replys to the par? Angela Tim Wegner wrote: > > > I beat you to it by two hours. See my msg at 22:10. 8-) > > Yeah, but I'm the all powerful List Czar. As the Umpire says, "It ain't a strike > until I call it." :-) > > I'm sure the "PAR in headers" proposal won't work for everyone, but I know it > will work for Pegasus. > > Tim > > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Fox Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list? Not this time! Date: 21 May 1998 13:36:58 +0100 (BST) > >PAR: Three designs based on a Paul Carlson formula. In this example, PAR > >is used once as an introduction and not in the Subject. > TEST: For test mails. > > Christian > Test mails are not a good idea and are not welcome in *any* normal newsgroup - if you try it, prepare to be flamed! There are a number of 'test' newsgroups specifically for this purpose, and some at least will generate an automatic reponse to the sender showing exactly how your message appeared to the group - useful confidence booster. For *this* newsgroup, you might get away with a test if you attached an interesting par or frm! Jerry Fox Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list? Not this time! Date: 21 May 1998 18:19:02 +0100 >> TEST: For test mails. >> >> Christian > >Test mails are not a good idea and are not welcome in *any* normal >newsgroup - if you try it, prepare to be flamed! <> Don't worry Jerry, this wasn't one of my most serious mails :-) Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 21 May 1998 13:28:15 EDT In a message dated 98-05-20 21:51:49 EDT, you write: << I have Windows 3.1. I have a "Control Panel" area, but it doesn't have a "Display" option anywhere that I can find. >> Colleen, A friend informs me that the option in program manager and is called VGA utilities\ setres. {set resolution } Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) PAR of P. Carlson frms Date: 21 May 1998 13:55:54 -0400 Here are 4 more pars of Paul Carlson formulas. If anyone needs these formulas, or any others by Paul, there is a complete collection of them available for download on my web page. Gedeon ************************************************ gp-ptb-01 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 21, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=petals_barnsley1 passes=b center-mag=-1.80813/1.98669/0.7931484/1/7.499 params=1.03/0.67/0.75/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=1023 fillcolor=253 outside=summ colors=000YLC<7>jVDlWEmXEnYE<4>tbEubEvcEwcEwdE<6>\ zfFzfFyeF<2>xeFxdEwdEwcEvcE<6>nYEmXElWEjVDiUDgTD<3>\ aOD_NDYLCWKCUJC<2>PFC1F1<11>BT6CU7DU7<5>GZ9H_9H`9I`AI\ aAIaA<6>KcBKcBKbB<3>JbAIaAIaAI`AH`9<7>DU7CU7BT6AS6AQ5\ <5>4J3VQG<8>haPjbQkcRldS<4>riWsjXtkYulYvlZwmZ<2>xn`yo`\ yo`yo`yo`zpa<5>yo`xn`xn_wm_wmZ<5>qhWpgVofUmeTldS<6>bXL\ aVK_UJYTI<2>UPFF00<5>O00Q00R00S00<2>X00Y00Z00_00`00<6>\ g00g00h00h00i00<4>j00j00i00<2>i00h00h00g00g00<10>X00V0\ 0U00S00R00<7>F00PFC<3>WKC } gp-csaj-01 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 21, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson ; Color map by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=csin_atan_julia passes=1 center-mag=-1.66533e-016/1.11022e-016/3.744309 params=1.19/0.52/2.05/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0\ <28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } gp-csaj-02 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 21, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson ; Color map by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=csin_atan_julia passes=1 center-mag=+0.31536947800586430/+0.18106576271186450/43.74192 params=1.19/0.52/2.05/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000O00<15>z88<12>O00c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0\ <15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>\ FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<11>I0KO08<15>z0f<12>\ O08000<12>000O08 } gp-r4mp-01 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 21, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson ; Color map by Paul Carlson (modified) reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=1 center-mag=-0.02254631076320956/+0.71044475655352460/7208.766 params=1/0.121/0/0/1/50 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000zz8<29>zz8zy8zy8zx8zx8<89>iR88fA<123>8J88B8<3>8B8 } -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 17, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 21 May 1998 14:25:14 -0400 > << I have Windows 3.1. I have a "Control Panel" area, but it doesn't have a > "Display" option anywhere that I can find. >> > Colleen, It is NOT the Control Panel you want. Instead, in Program Manager go to Main > Windows Setup > Options > Change System Settings. I believe that you will find what you want there. Gedeon ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 17, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) MISC: Subject Date: 21 May 1998 17:03:29 -0400 The topic of this thread according to my non-sorting e-mailer is: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol However, when is views the list of unopened mail, it gives only the first= 24 characters for each mail item. Thus I only saw (before I opened it): (fractint) MISC: Subject Thus I would only see the first 7 characters of a meaningful title in thi= s context. If I reply to a "PAR" message and forget to change "PAR" to something els= e, then I would be misleading others only looking for pars - I think this wi= ll be a major problem that will happen frequently. It's so easy to hit = for = reply and have the thread continue as named. = Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 21 May 1998 17:22:59 -0400 At 02:25 PM 5/21/1998 -0400, you wrote: >> << I have Windows 3.1. I have a "Control Panel" area, but it doesn't have a >> "Display" option anywhere that I can find. >> >> Colleen, > >It is NOT the Control Panel you want. Instead, in Program Manager go to Main > >Windows Setup > Options > Change System Settings. I believe that you will find >what you want there. > >Gedeon No. The original was first information: in Win95 Control Panel/etc. and what were the display (monitor) settings for infor re: resolution. In Win 3.1: Program Manager etc. as above, but do _not_ change settings at this time. (If tempted to do so..., which is not what Gideon is suggesting) Simply what are the current settings? I would suspect 640 x 480. Next will be info on SSTools.ini what is in there at this time? (All of this may have been covered and I may simply have overlooked it...) davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint) time consumption Date: 21 May 1998 23:07:35 +0100 Hi RJ, >I do agree though, at the end of the month I can never remember what went >with what. Les, I wonder if you'd be able to link to the proper posts in >the archives(perhaps as a comment, or in the index)? It's very nice to >reread the origional post- and see how this particular image was made. I >think I'd learn a lot from this! What I can easily do is to leave the body of each message within the par compilation. The extra information will be transparent when running Fractint so it won't affect the way the par compilation works. You won't be able to view the messages when running the pars - but you will be able to see what goes with what if you open the file with a text editor. The only negative effect of including the messages is an increase in the size of the file (approx. 40% larger). I've uploaded a temporary version of the May '98 collection, with the messages in the par file, to my usual page at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ I would appreciate if regular users of my compilation could take a look and say which option they prefer. Let me know by private e-mail to avoid undue traffic on the list. I will organise the final compilation according to the majority view. cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: RE: (fractint) Spirals Formula Date: 21 May 1998 17:58:18 -0500 (CDT) Pete, >Wow, that's really cool... But tell me, how does it (the stalks >method) work? (That is, how can I apply it to my own formulas?) The first part of your question (how does the stalks method work) is answered in something I posted to the list some time ago explaining orbit trap/coloring methods in general and the stalks method in particular. I'll email you (and anyone else who wants it) a copy of that posting. I'll assume that some of the other people on the list might be interested in how the Spir2_Trunc formula implements the stalks method and what lines need to be changed to apply the method to other equations. I've listed the formula below with the lines numbered for reference. The discussion follows the listing. Spir2_Trunc {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; ; p1 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p2) = a factor controlling the width of stalks ; imag(p2) = max. |w| for stalks (truncation value) ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; 1 w = pixel 2 c = p1 3 z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0 4 stalk_width = real(p2) 5 max_wm = imag(p2) 6 num_ranges = real(p3) 7 colors_in_range = imag(p3) 8 index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width 9 : 10 w = w * w - c, wr = real(w), awr = abs(wr) 11 w = w - wr + awr 12 awr = abs(real(w)), awi = abs(imag(w)) 13 IF (awr <= awi) 14 dist = awr 15 ELSE 16 dist = awi 17 ENDIF 18 ; 19 IF (dist < stalk_width && |w| < max_wm && iter > 1) 20 z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 21 bailout = 1 22 ENDIF 23 range_num = range_num + 1 24 IF (range_num == num_ranges) 25 range_num = 0 26 ENDIF 27 iter = iter + 1 28 z = z - iter 29 bailout == 0 && |w| < 4 30 } Lines 1-9 are the initialization part of the formula. I should probably explain line 5. The truncated stalks method differs from the the stalks method in that the length of the stalks is limited by the variable "max_wm" which, in effect, makes the orbit trap a cross within a circle. Lines 10-11 are the equations being iterated. You can substitute your own equation(s) in place of these lines, using the variable "w" in place of the usual "z". Lines 12-17 assign to the variable "dist" the distance from the orbit point to either the real or imaginary axis, whichever is smaller. Line 19 tests if the orbit point falls within the cross "dist < stalk_width" within the circle "|w| < max_wm". I don't allow bailout on the first couple of iterations "iter > 1" to allow the orbit to settle down a little. If these three conditions are true, the bailout flag is set. Line 20 uses the value of "dist" to set the value of "z" to a number which is the index into the colormap. The value of "index_factor * dist" will always be in the range of zero to "colors_in_range - 1." This is the index into one of the color ranges. Which color range is determined by the expression "range_num * colors_in_range." Lines 23-26 sets the value of "range_num" to the next number in the sequence 0,1,2,3,etc. up to the value of "num_ranges." When "num_ranges" is reached, zero is used instead of the value of "num_ranges" and the sequence repeats. Line 27 increments the iteration counter. Line 28 subtracts the iteration counter from the value of "z." This is necessary because setting "outside=summ" adds the number of iterations to "z." Line 29 tests for bailout. In addition to checking if the orbit point was trapped, "bailout == 0," this particular formula also checks if the orbit point has escaped a circle of radius two "|w| < 4." That's about it. Let me know if you found this explanation useful and how I might improve on it. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Modified Lambda Formula Date: 21 May 1998 17:59:58 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula applies my 3Way rendering method to a modified version of the Lambda equation. Paul Carlson } frm:Lam_Fnc_3Way {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; ; real(p1) = escape circle radius squared ; imag(p1) = number of iterations to skip ; p2 = bailout value for |w| ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; z = iter = k = range_num = bailout = 0 w = 0.5 c = pixel prev_modw2 = 1.0e20 rad2 = real(p1) skip_iters = imag(p1) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) colors_in_range_1 = colors_in_range - 1 : w = c * w * (1 - w) w = w - fn1(w) ; IF ((prev_modw2 < rad2) && (|w| > rad2)) bailout = 1 IF (iter > skip_iters) k = 1 ENDIF index = colors_in_range_1 * (rad2 - prev_modw2) / rad2 z = (index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1) * k ENDIF prev_modw2 = |w| range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| <= p2 } lamfnm01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=lamfnc.par formulaname=lam_fnc_3way function=recip passes=t center-mag=-3.64846275597104600/-0.00000000000000000/2058.748\ /1/-90 params=16/0/100/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000oe0<24>yx0zy0zz0zz0zy0yx0<58>aG0080<61>0W20W20V2<60\ >080aG0<32>nd0000<3>000 } lamfnm02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=lamfnc.par formulaname=lam_fnc_3way function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+5.89908070292939800/+0.00000000000000000/3702120/\ 1/90 params=16/13/100/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=00LaG0<41>yx0zz0zy0<42>aG0000<35>000VVV<42>zzzzzzyyy<4\ 1>VVV000<37>000zzz000000 } lamfnm03 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=lamfnc.par formulaname=lam_fnc_3way function=cotan passes=1 center-mag=+4.75158090716484000/+0.00000000000000000/1.217803\ e+009/1/90 params=4/19/100/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000aG0<60>zy0zz0zy0<60>aG0UUU<59>yyyzzzzzzzzz<60>UUU00\ 0<3>000 } lamfnm04 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=lamfnc.par formulaname=lam_fnc_3way function=cotan passes=t center-mag=+4.75158090715583000/+0.00000000000000000/5.002919\ e+008/1/90 params=4/0/100/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000aG0<60>zy0zz0zy0<60>aG0UUU<59>yyyzzzzzzzzz<60>UUU00\ 0<3>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) PAR: Fractal Excursions Date: 21 May 1998 18:16:58 -0500 Study_01 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=fn*fn function=recip/cotan passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000067/-0.00000000000000067/2.45098/1.3333 float=y bailout=3 bailoutest=and potential=256/256/0 invert=1/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000413<26>_8R`9Sa9TcAUbAU<30>413IDV<29>ErlDtmDsm<30>IDVMD3<27>u`9\ wa9xb9zcAycA<30>MD3UUc<28>mpsmqsnrtnrtmqs<29>UUc cyclerange=1/1 } Study_02 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=3.55271e-015/3.55271e-015/0.02929746 params=0.5329427078022032/0.6499644192975812/4/0 float=y maxiter=500 bailoutest=or logmap=yes invert=0.5/0/0 biomorph=0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<14>0000zR<28>0C40zR<28>0C4zW0<28>c40zW0<28>c400zR<28>0C40zR<2\ 8>0C4zW0<28>c40zW0<28>c40 cyclerange=1/1 } Study_03 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=popcornjul passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000011/-0.00000000000000011/0.6574622/1.3333 params=0.0314159265358979 float=y maxiter=500 bailout=2 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzz<15>E0SF0UH0X<12>407zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068000<30>000zzz<15>Kg\ 0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<15>sW0wZ0<13>8\ 50zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020 cyclerange=1/1 } Study_04 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000084/-0.00000000000000063/49.01961 params=-1.744813270588236/0.001272825882352842/2.0005/0 float=y maxiter=500 bailoutest=manr symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000D0E<3>905703602401300100<4>000001001002003<7>00E00F00E<6>00464\ 0<2>OG0UK0ZO0cS0hW0lZ0ob0sf0uj0xn0yr0yv0zz0yv0yr0xn0uj0sf0ob0lZ0<2>ZO0UK\ 0OG0<3>000000<2>I90OC1UF1ZI2cL3hO4lR5oU7sX8u_9xbByeCygEzjFygEyeCxbBu_9sX\ 8oU7lR5<2>ZI2UF1OC1<3>000000<3>O82UA3ZC5cE7hG9lIBoKEsMGuOJxQMySPyTSzVVyT\ SySPxQMuOJsMGoKElIB<2>ZC5UA3O82<3>000000610C21I31O43U55Z67c7Ah8Dl9HoALsB\ OuCTxDXyEazFfzGjyFeyEaxDXuCTsBOoALl9Hh8Dc7AZ67U55O43I31<2>000000500901E0\ 2I04<3>Y0I`0Mb0Se0Wg0ai0gj0mj0tk0yj0tj0mi0gg0ae0Wb0S`0MY0IU0EQ0AM07I04E0\ 2<2>000000300601901<2>I07K0AM0EO0HQ0LS0O<3>V0fW0jV0f<2>T0TS0OQ0LO0HM0D<4\ >901<2>000000<3>602703905<2>C0BD0EE0GE0JF0M<2>G0V<4>E0G cyclerange=1/1 } Study_05 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-3.21965e-015/5.44009e-015/0.7300344 params=0.0003355505082354656/0.4796277088141168/1.5/0 float=y maxiter=500 bailoutest=and invert=0.5/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzz<15>E0SF0UH0X<12>407zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12\ >808zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<1\ 5>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020 cyclerange=1/1 } Study_06 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-1.77636e-015/-1.77636e-015/0.1531525 params=-0.9312562238720589/-0.07797953826029538/12/0 float=y maxiter=400 bailoutest=imag logmap=yes invert=0.5/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000rH4vH1zH0<8>SDE<3>N3IL0JL1JM2JN3JO4I<10>tq2wu0zz0<2>pp2mm3jj5<\ 2>``8YY9XVA<6>KAIMAJOAL<12>ziE<13>K8B412000<15>svbsvbsvbsvb<13>UMGSJEQII\ <5>EAa<6>7Nt5Pw5Nt<5>A5bB5`C6YD6WC6XG8RH9PJAMKBKMEIOEJ<7>b`bdceffhhikjln\ loqnrt<15>OI4<15>zp`<4>jdVgaUcZS`WRYUQ<6>AAJ<3>ALPAORARTBUVBXX<6>DqkDtmC\ qk<4>9`d8Xb7Tb9Q_<5>L4Q<8>VHH<4>nH6 cyclerange=1/1 } Study_07 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=lambda passes=1 center-mag=3.33067e-016/-0.332525/2.096245/-1/180 params=1.080723615101491/0.4510063800319984 float=y maxiter=400 bailoutest=or logmap=yes symmetry=yaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<4>000Z90cA0hB0lC0oD0sE0uE0xF0yF0zG0yG0yF0xF0uE0sE0oD0lC0<2>Z9\ 0U70O60<3>000000<11>OFcQHfSIiVKmVKm<9>B8H96D75A537324000000<3>6O37U39Z4A\ c5Bh5Cl6Do6Es7Eu7Fx7Fy7Gz8Gy8Fy7Fx7Eu7Es7Do6Cl6<2>9Z47U36O3<2>1600000006\ 50BA1IF1NK2TP2YU3bX3fa4kd4ng5qj5tl5vn5wo6xp6xp6wo6vn5tl5qj5ng5kd4fa4bX3Y\ U3TP2NK2IF1BA1650000000<4>N0UR0ZU0cY0ha0lc0of0sh0ui0xk0yk0zk0zk0yi0xh0uf\ 0sc0oa0l<2>R0ZN0UI0O<3>000000<3>00O00U00Z00c00h00l00o00s00u00x00y00z00y0\ 0y00x00u00s00o00l<2>00Z00U00O<3>000000<3>OOOUUUZZZccchhhlllooosssuuuxxxy\ yyzzzyyyyyyxxxuuusssooolll<2>ZZZUUUOOO<3>000000<3>0OO1UU1ZZ1cc1hh1ll1oo1\ ss1uu2xx2yy2zz2yy2yy2xx1uu1ss1oo1ll<2>1ZZ1UU0OO<3>000 cyclerange=1/1 } Study_08 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=lambdafn function=cosxx passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000000/+0.00000000000000000/0.3333333/1.3333 params=2.5/0.33 float=y inside=epsiloncross logmap=yes invert=1/0/0 biomorph=145 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzzucG<3>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020wwx<14>E0SF0UH0X<12>407\ zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12>808zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz\ <15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<10>veK cyclerange=1/1 } Study_09 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=fn(z*z) function=trunc passes=b center-mag=+0.00000000000000133/-0.00000000000000133/1.472112/1.3333 float=y inside=bof60 outside=summ potential=256/100/5000 invert=1/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000ILLJPPLUUOYYQaa<2>`lldpphrrluu<2>zyyuzzuzzzyyuxxqwwluuhrrdpp<2\ >UeeQaaOYYLUU<2>HGG100220440<2>EB0IE0NF0SH0XJ0aK0hM0<2>zO0tO0tO0zO0tO0nN\ 0hM0aK0<2>NF0IE0EB0B90770440220100HGGILLJPPLUUOYYQaa<2>`lldpphrrluu<2>zy\ yuzzuzzzyyuxxqwwluuhrrdpp<2>UeeQaaOYYLUU<2>HGG1002604B0<2>ES0IX0N`0Se0Xi\ 0al0hp0<2>zv0tv0tv0zv0tt0nr0hp0al0Xi0<2>IX0ES0BM07H04B0260100HGGILLJPPLU\ UOYYQaa<2>`lldpphrrluu<2>zyyuzzuzzzyyuxxqwwluuhrrdpp<2>UeeQaaOYYLUU<2>HG\ G000<3>0O00U00Z00c00h00l00o00s00u00x00y00z0<2>0x00u00s00o00l0<2>0Z00U00O\ 0<3>000HGGILLJPPLUUOYYQaa<2>`lldpphrrluu<2>zyyuzzuzzzyyuxxqwwluuhrrdpp<2\ >UeeQaaOYYLUU<2>HGG000<3>7DI9GNCJS<2>NRaQTdVVg<2>fYlbYlbYlfYlbXjZWiVVgQT\ d<2>GMVCJS9GN<4>000 cyclerange=1/1 } Study_10 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=fn*fn function=recip/cotan passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000067/-0.00000000000000067/0.6100267/1.3333 float=y maxiter=1000 bailout=3 bailoutest=and logmap=old potential=256/256/0 invert=0.54642420003497/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzz0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12>808zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470\ zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<15>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D\ 0<13>020wwx<14>E0SF0UH0X<12>407zzz<14>4T` cyclerange=1/1 } Study_11 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=fn*z+z function=cotan passes=1 center-mag=1.33227e-015/-1.33227e-015/0.2635659/1.3333 params=1.8/0/0.4/0 float=y maxiter=500 bailout=3 bailoutest=and logmap=old potential=256/256/0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzz8Vb4T`0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12>808zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0<\ 12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<15>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15\ >0C00D0<13>020wwx<14>E0SF0UH0X<12>407zzz<12>CXd cyclerange=1/1 } Study_12 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=fn*z+z function=cotanh passes=1 center-mag=-3.44169e-014/4.59632e-014/0.9838112/1.4229 params=2.7/1/0.08500000000000001/1 float=y maxiter=500 bailout=144 bailoutest=and logmap=old potential=256/256/0 invert=1.26470588235294/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000Qlq<9>0Rf<12>FovGqwHsxJuzIrwHot<13>04C<15>hrk<10>HOKELHBIE8FB5\ C8<15>rkr<15>E1E<15>zup<15>N85<15>vvv<15>DD0<15>hrkVpj<14>0LL<15>pzz<15>\ 00J<15>dyw<4>Snr cyclerange=1/1 } Study_13 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=manzpower passes=1 center-mag=3.33067e-016/-3.33067e-016/1.718213/1.3333 params=0/0/-7/0 float=y maxiter=500 bailout=3 inside=epsiloncross outside=real potential=256/600/0 invert=0.5/0/0 biomorph=213 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=00000JNzKOHLOHLPIMPzMQJN<53>nrtnrtnqs<61>MEIRK6<62>zp`zp`yo`<61>R\ K6MEI00J cyclerange=1/1 } Study_14 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-3.55271e-015/1.75184/0.06316812 params=0.1190123202535907/0.7935784288651144/3/0 float=y maxiter=50 bailoutest=and invert=0.5/0/0 distest=-2/5/768/768 finattract=y symmetry=none periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<2>YEn<6>ivz<4>4JbS_jops<3>WGl<4>nLTrMPsQM<2>wcB<4>a0L<6>y2y<5\ >S8t<2>eEm<3>Bhq<5>BQ3<3>a_4<2>VMOSHVPCaM7hR9e<2>fGXlJUpTPubK<7>2AP<7>l1\ L<2>FTZ<4>wn5wbKvRZ<3>wNK<8>E8M<6>tGt<2>KR`<5>vx7<3>Dok<5>R15<7>qCm<2>oz\ 1<3>o0c<6>35w<6>hvS<3>sT7<2>lMOiJUfG_cDeeGd<6>zeT<7>RG_<2>dP_iS`nV`sZasY\ U<2>rS5<4>B6I<7>n9E<3>gdw<2>Vup<2>gU`<3>wpH<2>zPrvDZq1F<5>eGX<3>t3r<3>Cv\ h cyclerange=1/1 orbitdelay=4 } Study_15 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=marksjulia passes=1 center-mag=8.88178e-015/-7.10543e-015/0.09018866 params=-0.367530482852941/-0.583313359147059/3 float=y maxiter=300 bailoutest=and invert=0.5/0/0 finattract=y symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000X11Z33_44`66b77<7>nJJoKKpLLqMMrNN<4>wSSwSSxTTxTTyUU<7>zVVzVVyU\ U<4>wSSvRRuQQtPPsOO<4>nJJlHHkGGiFFhDDfCCeAAd99b77`66_44<2>V0000031363684\ 8<5>RDRUFUWGWZHZ<5>lOlnPnoQoqRq<3>wTwxUxxUxyVy<4>zVzzVzyVyxUxxUx<2>tStsS\ sqRqoQo<2>jNjhMheLecKc<4>RDROCOLALI9IF7FC6C848<2>000V00X11Z33_44`66b77<7\ >nJJoKKpLLqMMrNN<4>wSSwSSxTTxTTyUU<7>zVVzVVyUU<4>wSSvRRuQQtPPsOO<4>nJJlH\ HkGGiFFhDDfCCeAAd99b77`66_44<2>V00000313636848<5>RDRUFUWGWZHZ<5>lOlnPnoQ\ oqRq<3>wTwxUxxUxyVy<4>zVzzVzyVyxUxxUx<2>tStsSsqRqoQo<2>jNjhMheLecKc<4>RD\ ROCOLALI9IF7FC6C848<2>000 cyclerange=1/1 orbitdelay=4 } Study_16 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=marksjulia passes=1 center-mag=-7.77156e-016/4.996e-016/2.853148 params=-1.773407793010447/0.006275550975999841/1 float=y maxiter=500 bailoutest=and invert=0.0016864/0/0 distest=-1/20/768/768 finattract=y symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=00000GwNK<8>E8M<6>tGt<2>KR`<5>vx7<3>Dok<5>R15<7>qCm<2>oz1<3>o0c<6\ >35w<6>hvS<3>sT7<2>lMOiJUfG_cDeeGd<6>zeT<7>RG_<2>dP_iS`nV`sZasYU<2>rS5<4\ >B6I<7>n9E<3>gdw<2>Vup<2>gU`<3>wpH<2>zPrvDZq1F<5>eGX<3>t3r<3>CvhB4HM9YYE\ n<6>ivz<4>4JbS_jops<3>WGl<4>nLTrMPsQM<2>wcB<4>a0L<6>y2y<5>S8t<2>eEm<3>Bh\ q<5>BQ3<3>a_4<2>VMOSHVPCaM7hR9e<2>fGXlJUpTPubK<7>2AP<7>l1L<2>FTZ<4>wn5wb\ KvRZvQWvPS cyclerange=1/1 orbitdelay=4 } Study_17 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=popcornjul passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000000/+0.00000000000000000/0.3015873/1.3333 params=0.0619 float=y maxiter=100 bailout=1600 inside=bof61 logmap=7 invert=0.75/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<2>YEn<6>ivz<4>4JbS_jops<3>WGl<4>nLTrMPsQM<2>wcB<4>a0L<6>y2y<5\ >S8t<2>eEm<3>Bhq<5>BQ3<3>a_4<2>VMOSHVPCaM7hR9e<2>fGXlJUpTPubK<7>2AP<7>l1\ L<2>FTZ<4>wn5wbKvRZ<3>wNK<8>E8M<6>tGt<2>KR`<5>vx7<3>Dok<5>R15<7>qCm<2>oz\ 1<3>o0c<6>35w<6>hvS<3>sT7<2>lMOiJUfG_cDeeGd<6>zeT<7>RG_<2>dP_iS`nV`sZasY\ U<2>rS5<4>B6I<7>n9E<3>gdw<2>Vup<2>gU`<3>wpH<2>zPrvDZq1F<5>eGX<3>t3r<3>Cv\ h cyclerange=1/1 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colleen Johnson Subject: Re: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 21 May 1998 18:34:45 PDT Hi davides and Gedeon! Thanks for the info. I found the spot. The setting is 800x600. I don't = find a file called SSTools.ini in my Fractint files. Isn't that a file = you have to generate yourself? If so, I haven't generated one, because = I haven't found a video mode I want to use all the time. By the way, I did find that some of the higher resolution modes (though = still not 800x600) that only have 16 colors do work with my computer, but= I'd rather get higher resolution and keep at least 256 colors. One of the 800x600 modes did seem to be trying to function on my computer= -- it was running, but all that was displaying was a black screen that = was flickering rapidly. Anyway, any more ideas? Thanks for your help. Colleen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colleen Johnson Subject: Re: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 21 May 1998 18:43:24 PDT Hi RJ I have a floppy disk with the most recent drivers from the manufacturer's= home page. I'm going to have my hubbie look over the files and see if = there's a DOS driver in there that might make a difference. But the mode= s don't work in Windows either. There are a couple of other drivers or = programs that came with the video card that aren't installed on the compu= ter that I'm going to ask him to install and see if that helps. Thanks! Colleen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colleen Johnson Subject: Re: RE: (fractint)newbe needs help Date: 21 May 1998 18:57:29 PDT Hi Kerry I was reviewing and deleting messages, and realized that I couldn't find = the response I wrote to you amongst all the files in my in-box. I don't = know if I had just already deleted it or if I sent it to a different addr= ess at your request, or what. I know the list seemed to be acting kind = of weird this past weekend. So, anyway, I thought I'd send it again, so = you wouldn't think I had ignored your message. I hope that's OK. So here= it is: Thanks for your response. I've tried all of the modes in the config file= already. A few of them worked, but they are ones with fairly low resolution or few colors. The specs for my adapter and monitor suggest = I should be able to get better resolution. I'm not sure how you all attach the note you are responding to to your = message. I'm going to try to attach my first note to this response to = you. I hope it works! Thanks again. Colleen ___________________________ Colleen, >already. >Safe bets are to try any of the "VESA autodetect" modes. Or, just try = >all >the modes listed in fractint.cfg (either look at the actual file or hit >the "del" key when in fractint). If you find a mode that your system >won't support, at worst you'll hear a few clicks as your monitor reset >modes, but you won't damage anything. Kerry ------ Kerry Mitchell __________________________________________ Wow, am I glad to find you guys. I'm fairly new to computers, and very = new to Fractint, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to configure = Fractint to maximize my computer's potential. And I need to maximize it = because I have a 486 and Windows 3.1. Anyway, I'm getting what seems to me to be rather low resolution on my fractals, and I've been trying to add the specs of my video driver to the config file, in hopes = that that might improve things, but so far all I get on the screen when = I do that is scrambled pixels. Can anyone help? I have a Cardex W32 Local Bus Window Accelerator VGA (ET4000/W32- VESA Local Bus) (I'm typing all of this directly from the pages of the User's Manual, because I have no idea which parts of this information may be relevant) In "Features" my manual lists the following: Tseng Labs ET4000/W32 VGA Chip Register level compatibility with the IBM VGA, EGA, CGA and MDA Extended graphics resolution modes providing 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024 High Resolution when used with multi-frequency analog monitors, and similar maximum resolutions with fixed-frequency analog monitors such as the IBM 85XX series. Support 80386/80486 VESA LOCAL BUS Operation Support maximum 72HZ Refresh Rate in modes 640.480, 800x600, and High Resolution (VESA Standard). VL-BUS Version 0.8~1.x HiColor (15,16 bit/pixel) graphics mode producing 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 resolution with 32,768 or 65,535 simultaneously display colors. True Color 24 bit/pixel graphics mode producing 640x480 resolution with 16.7M simultaneously display colors. Graphics Accelerator provides hardware drawing assist functions, such as bit block transfer (BitBlt), patterned lines and circles. 1 M bytes video memory standard Supports 64x64x2 sprite for use as hardware cursor. Extended text modes providing 132x25, 132x28, 132x44, 132x60, 100x40, and 80x60 resolutions that let your microcomputer, using popular emulatorand micro/mainframe link products, emulate the display characteristics of widely used terminals such as the DEC VT100 = line and the IBM 3278 MOD 5. Drivers for running extended text modes in Lotus 1-2-3 and Symphony; and extended graphics mode drivers for Autodesk AutoCAD, Digital Research GEM, Microsoft Windows, WordPerfect, Ventura Publisher and OS/2 Presentation Manager. My monitor is a CTX CPS-1760/LR The user's manual says it is a: Super multi-frequency color monitor with microprocessor based intelligence and multi-frequency scanning capability It automatically scans all horizontal frequencies between 30KHz and 65KHz, and all vertical frequencies between 50Hz and 90Hz It has maximum horizontal resolution of 1280 dots and a maximum vertical resolution of 1024 lines with non-interlaced scanning So, if anyone can suggest how to write the appropriate line in the config file, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!!!! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Newbie needs help Date: 21 May 1998 21:27:37 -0500 Colleen Johnson wrote: > > > Wow, am I glad to find you guys. I'm fairly new to computers, and very > new to Fractint, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to configure > Fractint to maximize my computer's potential. You think you've got problems? Next week I will be getting my new computer delivered--a Compaq Presario 4880 (PentiumII/400) to go along with the new monitor that was delivered several weeks ago--a Viewsonic 17" jobber with a max. res. of 1600x1200. Then I'll be the one to have the joy of making all my old software, including Fractint, work without having fits and starts. But, just think, I won't have to design fractal art at the *low* resolution of 1024 x 758 any more. 8-) Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Faye Williams" Subject: Re: (fractint) Spirals Formula Date: 21 May 1998 21:52:40 -0700 Paul, I too would like more information on how the stalks method works. I haven't been a member of the group for long and don't think I saw your posting regarding this. Faye -----Original Message----- >Pete, > >>Wow, that's really cool... But tell me, how does it (the stalks >>method) work? (That is, how can I apply it to my own formulas?) > >The first part of your question (how does the stalks method work) >is answered in something I posted to the list some time ago >explaining orbit trap/coloring methods in general and the stalks >method in particular. I'll email you (and anyone else who wants >it) a copy of that posting. I'll assume that some of the other >people on the list might be interested in how the Spir2_Trunc >formula implements the stalks method and what lines need to >be changed to apply the method to other equations. I've listed >the formula below with the lines numbered for reference. The >discussion follows the listing. > >Spir2_Trunc {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 > ; > ; p1 = Julia set coordinates > ; real(p2) = a factor controlling the width of stalks > ; imag(p2) = max. |w| for stalks (truncation value) > ; real(p3) = number of color ranges > ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range > ; >1 w = pixel >2 c = p1 >3 z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0 >4 stalk_width = real(p2) >5 max_wm = imag(p2) >6 num_ranges = real(p3) >7 colors_in_range = imag(p3) >8 index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width >9 : >10 w = w * w - c, wr = real(w), awr = abs(wr) >11 w = w - wr + awr >12 awr = abs(real(w)), awi = abs(imag(w)) >13 IF (awr <= awi) >14 dist = awr >15 ELSE >16 dist = awi >17 ENDIF >18 ; >19 IF (dist < stalk_width && |w| < max_wm && iter > 1) >20 z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 >21 bailout = 1 >22 ENDIF >23 range_num = range_num + 1 >24 IF (range_num == num_ranges) >25 range_num = 0 >26 ENDIF >27 iter = iter + 1 >28 z = z - iter >29 bailout == 0 && |w| < 4 >30 } > >Lines 1-9 are the initialization part of the formula. I should >probably explain line 5. The truncated stalks method differs >from the the stalks method in that the length of the stalks is >limited by the variable "max_wm" which, in effect, makes the >orbit trap a cross within a circle. > >Lines 10-11 are the equations being iterated. You can substitute >your own equation(s) in place of these lines, using the variable >"w" in place of the usual "z". > >Lines 12-17 assign to the variable "dist" the distance from the >orbit point to either the real or imaginary axis, whichever is >smaller. > >Line 19 tests if the orbit point falls within the cross >"dist < stalk_width" within the circle "|w| < max_wm". I don't >allow bailout on the first couple of iterations "iter > 1" >to allow the orbit to settle down a little. If these three >conditions are true, the bailout flag is set. > >Line 20 uses the value of "dist" to set the value of "z" to a >number which is the index into the colormap. The value of >"index_factor * dist" will always be in the range of zero to >"colors_in_range - 1." This is the index into one of the color >ranges. Which color range is determined by the expression >"range_num * colors_in_range." > >Lines 23-26 sets the value of "range_num" to the next number >in the sequence 0,1,2,3,etc. up to the value of "num_ranges." >When "num_ranges" is reached, zero is used instead of the >value of "num_ranges" and the sequence repeats. > >Line 27 increments the iteration counter. > >Line 28 subtracts the iteration counter from the value of "z." >This is necessary because setting "outside=summ" adds the >number of iterations to "z." > >Line 29 tests for bailout. In addition to checking if the >orbit point was trapped, "bailout == 0," this particular formula >also checks if the orbit point has escaped a circle of radius >two "|w| < 4." > >That's about it. Let me know if you found this explanation >useful and how I might improve on it. > >Paul Carlson > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Prickett" Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject Date: 21 May 1998 20:44:24 -0700 Lee Skinner wrote: >If I reply to a "PAR" message and forget to change "PAR" to something >else, then I would be misleading others only looking for pars - I think this >will be a major problem that will happen frequently. No real problem. Just search for a subject line that contains "Re: AND PAR" and put those in a folder *BEFORE* you do a search for "PAR". I've already done this. Jim Prickett jprickett@satcom.net Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) the Unfractal Date: 21 May 1998 23:48:06 -0700 And now........the Unfractal. (These like high resolution but they're quick. unfractal1 { ; Copyright (c) kathy roth 1998 ; frm by Morgan Owens ; palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=ca03.frm formulaname=uc03 function=sqr passes=t center-mag=0.10934/0.423359/0.3221982 params=0.1/0.02 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=mobmnb_jc<4>SgdQfePed<5>L`_K_ZJY\ X<7>8JJ7IH6GF5FE4DD3CB2AA<3>36635\ 6245234235236<3>22D31F42H42J53M64P<14>Q\ 3qS2sT2uU1vV1xX0z<13>RQzQSzQSz<13\ >aaqbbpddr<3>llz<4>gZqeWoeVn<13>W8YV6WU6\ V<14>F0FE0ED0DC0CB1B<4>626255244\ 333222<2>414515717<2>B0DC0FC0H<3>G0PH\ 0RH0SH0U<12>M0oN0qN0q<11>VAuVBvWBu<\ 13>qLZsMXsNX<2>rQWrSVrTVrVUrWU<4>rcVr\ dVqfWqgX<6>qqjpslpsk<3>oqf000kkklob\ <5>bkc } unfractal2 { ; Copyright (c) kathy roth 1998 ; frm by Morgan Owens ; palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=ca03.frm formulaname=uc03 function=sqr passes=t center-mag=0.565116/0.495899/1.54903 params=0.1/0.02 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=mobmnb_jc<4>SgdQfePed<5>L`_K_ZJY\ X<7>8JJ7IH6GF5FE4DD3CB2AA<3>36635\ 6245234235236<3>22D31F42H42J53M64P<14>Q3\ qS2sT2uU1vV1xX0z<13>RQzQSzQSz<13\ >aaqbbpddr<3>llz<4>gZqeWoeVn<13>W8YV6\ WU6V<14>F0FE0ED0DC0CB1B<4>626255244\ 333222<2>414515717<2>B0DC0FC0H<3>G0P\ H0RH0SH0U<12>M0oN0qN0q<11>VAuVBvWBu<\ 13>qLZsMXsNX<2>rQWrSVrTVrVUrWU<4>rcV\ rdVqfWqgX<6>qqjpslpsk<3>oqf000kkklob\ <5>bkc } unfractal4 { ; Copyright (c) kathy roth 1998 ; frm by Morgan Owens ; palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=ca03.frm formulaname=uc03 function=sqr passes=t center-mag=0.565116/0.495899/1.54903 params=0.01/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=mobmnb_jc<4>SgdQfePed<5>L`_K_ZJ\ YX<7>8JJ7IH6GF5FE4DD3CB2AA<3>36635\ 6245234235236<3>22D31F42H42J53M64P<14>Q3\ qS2sT2uU1vV1xX0z<13>RQzQSzQSz<13\ >aaqbbpddr<3>llz<4>gZqeWoeVn<13>W8YV6\ WU6V<14>F0FE0ED0DC0CB1B<4>626255244\ 333222<2>414515717<2>B0DC0FC0H<3>G0PH\ 0RH0SH0U<12>M0oN0qN0q<11>VAuVBvWBu<\ 13>qLZsMXsNX<2>rQWrSVrTVrVUrWU<4>rcVr\ dVqfWqgX<6>qqjpslpsk<3>oqf000kkklob\ <5>bkc } unfractal3 { ; Copyright (c) kathy roth 1998 ; frm by Morgan Owens ; palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=ca03.frm formulaname=uc03 function=ident passes=t center-mag=0.524462/0.641708/0.4525255 params=0.1/0.02 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=mobbkcmnb_jc<4>SgdQfePed<5>L`_K_ZJ\ YX<7>8JJ7IH6GF5FE4DD3CB2AA<3>36\ 6356245234235236<3>22D31F42H42J53M64P<14>Q\ 3qS2sT2uU1vV1xX0z<13>RQzQSzQSz\ <13>aaqbbpddr<3>llz<4>gZqeWoeVn<13>W8YV6\ WU6V<14>F0FE0ED0DC0CB1B<4>626255\ 244333222<2>414515717<2>B0DC0FC0H<3>G0\ PH0RH0SH0U<12>M0oN0qN0q<11>VAuVBvW\ Bu<13>qLZsMXsNX<2>rQWrSVrTVrVUrWU<4>rc\ VrdVqfWqgX<6>qqjpslpsk<3>oqf000kkk\ lob<4>dlc } formula by Morgan Owens- frm:Ca03{; Prerelease version 20/01/1998 a=p1 b=2*a*(a+1) c=2*(a+2)/3 t=real(p2),bailout=4,z=pixel: x=real(z),y=imag(z) xx=sqr(x),yy=sqr(y) Tx=fn1(b*x*(c*xx-1)) Ty=fn1(b*y*(c*yy-1)) x=x-t*Ty,y=y+t*Tx z=x+flip(y) |z|<=bailout} Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: (fractint) nuclear formulas Date: 22 May 1998 09:35:25 -0400 Will the author of the "nuclear" series of formulas please identify himself/herself to me by response to this post or by direct e-mail? I'm working on an update to the orgform compilation, and need to discuss a couple of these formulas with the original author. Thanks George Martin Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) time consumption Date: 22 May 1998 10:10:30 -0400 Les St Clair wrote: >>>I've uploaded a temporary version of the May '98 collection, with the messages >>>in the par file >>>I would appreciate if regular users of my compilation could take a look and say >>>which option they prefer. >>>Let me know by private e-mail to avoid undue traffic on the list. >>>I will organise the final compilation according to the majority view. Hi Les, Thank you again for collecting the PAR files. I would prefer that you *do* include the messages as they often contain useful commentary regarding the images. The extra size does not seem to bother fractint nor me. Nick Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harry Rich Subject: Re: (fractint) Bug in formula parser ? (v. 19.6) Date: 22 May 1998 16:51:05 +0100 I'm guessing because I don't understand the formula processing (I just like to look at the pretty pictures), but if "z=0" sets the intial value of z and the expression "z*z*z*z/(z*z+p1)" computes the next value of z, then for p1= 0 the 2nd iteration is indeterminate (0/0) for all values of c. My guess is that Fractint traps the zero divide and discards the point from the M-set. Many expressions converge to unattainable limits. >>> Oliver Klimek Tue 19May98 4:36P >>> During my experiments om mutating M-sets by strategically placing additional parameters inside the formula I have noticed a bug/feature of the formula parser. It might have been already noticed by somebody else but I just want to make sure the developers know about it. The following formula: okM_01{ z=0 c=pixel: z=z*z*z*z/(z*z+p1)+c |z|<=8 } converges to the standard Mandelbrot with p1 approaching 0. When p1 is set to any non-zero value, everything works as it should. But when p1 is set to 0 all of a sudden the M-set disappears completely. This also happens when the formula is rewritten using sqr() or z^n notation. Try writing the Mandel formula as z = z^4 / z^2. It won't work. Of course there is a singlularity at (0,0), but the rest of the formula should just work out fine. Who has an answer ? Oliver Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 22 May 1998 23:30:47 +0100 :-| (gravely) On the day of Friday, May 22, 1998 my Packard Bell Legend 950 with a 486dx2-50 and 4MB of RAM suddenly died. There has been no indication this would happen. Yesterday, it was still happily calcing fractals, but today my machine couldn't reply to my greetings anymore. I've written a short In Memoriam to my beloved 486: 0101010101001010100101010010100001010111000101001010010101 1100111101110011001110011001010101101010011010010001101000 1010101001010101001010010101011001010001010010101010010010 1010101001010010101001010010101001010010101001010010101010 1110010110100110100110010101001001001010100000101001011010 1001001010100101011001010101001101010101101010110101011010 0101101011010101101011011010101101101010110110110101101011 1001110011001010101101010111111010101111100010111011001100 0101101010101101010110101101010101101010101101011010101100 1111111110101101010101101010101110110101101010110101101011 1110101110101110110101010101011101010101011111010101110101 1100110011001100110011 I suggest we all enact a period of silence for 1/18.2 of a second to remember all of the great computers that without any complaints, did exactly as we said (not always doing what we wanted it to do though), calculating the most beautiful and deep fractals; and their predecessors and succesors alike. :-| Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RParracho Subject: (fractint) Wannabe formulist/artist Date: 22 May 1998 17:36:52 EDT just a fast post Square_Runge {;RSPP 22MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf010.frm formulaname=Runge01 function=sqr center-mag=-0.475743/0/0.6666667 params=1/64 float=y inside=zmag periodicity=0 colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555\ <3>HHHKKKOOOSSSWWW___ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00\ <3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zVz<2>zVb00z<47>0hz0hy0iw<2\ 8>0y20z00z0<30>0X01X03Y0<28>xy0zz0zy0<43>z00000000 } FRM:Runge01 {;RSPF010 22MAY98 z=c=pixel, h=real(p1), ;step size start with whole + /- numbers b=imag(p1): ;bailout value k1=fn1(z)+c, xb=real(z)+h/2, yb=flip(imag(z))+h*k1/2, k2=fn1(xb+yb), yb=flip(imag(z))+h*k2/2, k3=fn1(xb+yb), x=imag(z)+h, yb=flip(imag(z))+h*k3, k4=fn1(x+yb), z=c+flip(imag(z))+h*(k1+2*k2+2*k3+k4)/6, (real(z)*imag(z))<=b} Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Five pars, same spiral Date: 22 May 1998 17:22:50 -0500 (CDT) comment { These pars are for the MyEqn_Julia formula I posted a some time ago. Each of the five pars applies a different rendering method to the same star-shaped spiral, although some images are rotated and some are zoomed in or out. Last minute note: I decided I'd better include the formula since there's been some newcomers to the list since I posted it. It follows the pars. Paul Carlson } method_1 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqnjul.frm formulaname=myeqn_julia passes=t center-mag=-1.72941/0.618862/3.931108 params=2.89375/0.05625/1/0.1/2/125 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000GGz<123>44Yzzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } method_2 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqnjul.frm formulaname=myeqn_julia passes=t center-mag=-1.72941/0.618862/3.931108 params=2.89375/0.05625/2/0.4/8/30 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } method_3 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqnjul.frm formulaname=myeqn_julia passes=t center-mag=-1.73504/0.624804/5.815249/1/180 params=2.89375/0.05625/3/0.3/8/30 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 cyclerange=1/250 } method_4 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 199 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqnjul.frm formulaname=myeqn_julia passes=t center-mag=-1.76348/0.630309/3.658701 params=2.89375/0.05625/4/0.13/8/30 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000c40<28>zW0aG0<28>zz00C4<28>0zR0CC<28>0zz00O<25>EEuE\ EwFFxGGzI0K<28>fOzO08<28>z0fO00<28>z88000<13>000 } method_5 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqnjul.frm formulaname=myeqn_julia passes=t center-mag=-1.74044/0.63154/7.013423/1/170 params=2.89375/0.05625/5/0.03/2/125 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000GGz<123>44Yzzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } frm:MyEqn_Julia {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; p1 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p2) = selects rendering method ; imag(p2) = a factor controlling the size of the elements ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; z = k = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 w = pixel c = p1 dist = 1.0e20 size = imag(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / size render = real(p2) : w2 = w * w w = c * (1 - w2) / (1 + w2) ; ;;;;;;;;;; dist determined by rendering method ;;;;;;;;;;;;;; IF (render == 1) ; RINGS ;; dist = abs(|w|-.25) ;; ELSEIF (render == 2) ; ANGLE FUNCTION ;; a = 2 * atan(imag(w) / real(w)) ;; a = a * a + c ;; a = exp(1 - a) / a ;; dist = abs(|w| - |a|) ;; ELSEIF (render == 3) ; SQUARES ;; k = 0.5 + size ;; j = 0.5 - size ;; awr = abs(real(w)), awi = abs(imag(w)) ;; IF ((awr < k) && (awr > j) && (awi < k) && (awi > j)) ;; awr5 = abs(awr - 0.5), awi5 = abs(awi - 0.5) ;; IF (awr5 <= awi5) ;; dist = awr5 ;; ELSE ;; dist = awi5 ;; ENDIF ;; ENDIF ;; ELSEIF (render == 4) ; SPHERES ;; IF ((d = |w + (0,-.5)|) < size) ;; dist = size - d ;; ELSEIF ((d = |w + (0,.5)|) < size) ;; dist = size - d ;; ELSEIF ((d = |w + (-.5,0)|) < size) ;; dist = size - d ;; ELSEIF ((d = |w + (.5,0)|) < size) ;; dist = size - d ;; ENDIF ;; ELSEIF (render == 5) ; STALKS ;; IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w))) ;; dist = abs(real(w)) ;; ELSE ;; dist = abs(imag(w)) ;; ENDIF ;; ENDIF ;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; IF (dist < size && iter > 0) bailout = 1 z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: Re: (fractint) time consumption leaving orig. msg. in or not? Date: 22 May 1998 15:37:09 -0700 (PDT) I for one prefer the old way (no original messages within the pars/frms) specifically due to the extra size. I spend probably 99% of my time in relation to this list extracting PAR's FRM's and MAP's "OUT" of the comments on purpose. I like the comments mind you but after having seen 'Em once that's quite typically plenty for me. Please take no offense at this statament as it is simply a specific preference and nothing more. Sorry if this sounds a bit curt, I don't mean to. T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie WHOOKAM88@YAHOO.COM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Wannabe formulist/artist Date: 22 May 1998 17:55:00 -0500 (CDT) Hi, Interesting formula! I've only played with it a few minutes, but I thought this image is kind of interesting. It uses the same coordinates as your Square_Runge par. Paul Carlson strands { ; Paul Carlson, 5-22-98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=runge.frm formulaname=runge01 function=sqr passes=t center-mag=-0.475743/0/0.6666667 params=-3/64 float=y inside=zmag outside=atan periodicity=0 colors=000I0K<43>fOzfOzeNy<42>I0KaG0<28>yx0zz0zy0<27>aG0000<1\ 03>000 } FRM:Runge01 {;RSPF010 22MAY98 z=c=pixel, h=real(p1), ;step size start with whole + /- numbers b=imag(p1): ;bailout value k1=fn1(z)+c, xb=real(z)+h/2, yb=flip(imag(z))+h*k1/2, k2=fn1(xb+yb), yb=flip(imag(z))+h*k2/2, k3=fn1(xb+yb), x=imag(z)+h, yb=flip(imag(z))+h*k3, k4=fn1(x+yb), z=c+flip(imag(z))+h*(k1+2*k2+2*k3+k4)/6, (real(z)*imag(z))<=b} Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) PAR: Found at Home Date: 22 May 1998 21:44:19 -0500 Hi Fractalizens: Here are some things you might find inside a home. Bob Wall_Decoration { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julia passes=1 center-mag=-9.99201e-016/-2.22045e-016/0.8865965/2.4908 params=3.420368030019988e-008/-0.6415023770158242 float=y maxiter=1000 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/2.5/yes/0/0 colors=0003Kk<12>L5L<3>a4De4Bj39o26u13z00<4>zV0z`0xg0zb0<5>z60<8>L5L<12>\ 5Jj3Kl2Ln0Nq1Mo<14>L5L<2>X5Fa4De4Bj39o26u13z00<4>zV0z`0xg0zb0<5>z60<8>L5\ L<13>2Ln0Nq1Mo<14>L5L<2>X5Fa4De4Bj39o26u13z00<4>zV0z`0xg0za0<5>z60<8>L5L\ <12>5Jj3Kl2Ln0Nq1Mo<14>L5L<2>X5Fa4De4Bj39o26u13z00<4>zV0z`0xg0zb0<5>z60<\ 8>L5L<12>5Jj3Kl2Ln0Nq1Mo2Lm cyclerange=1/1 } Area_Rug { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julia passes=b center-mag=+0.00000000000000051/-0.00000000000000038/5699.954 params=-0.02802075999913258/0.694922741587607 float=y maxiter=1250 bailout=400 bailoutest=and fillcolor=154 inside=bof61 logmap=288 distest=1/1/768/768 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<91>000K0U<7>mKm<14>Q5IO4GM2DK0A<11>n7Hq8It9JwAKtAK<14>00U<5>P\ 0UU0UX4V<7>wcc<6>U0A<5>kbcnihpmlsrp<9>YOE<10>wwm<8>6X5<3>3HG3DJ5GM<10>Rw\ w<14>2EE0AA000<8>000 cyclerange=1/1 } Tapestry { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-1.77636e-015/-1.77636e-015/0.1190476 params=0.6411523508705893/0.04761399642352925/5/0 float=y maxiter=250 bailoutest=or invert=0.5/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=800<35>u00w00v00<37>200000020<8>710800600<2>200000020050120<3>410\ YVP<4>QL9PK8QK6<14>xn_<13>TN9RL7PJ7PK8<14>nru<14>050130200100000<13>0A40\ B40C50C6<13>AQNBRPBRO<10>3GA3F93F9<25>122121111000100<4>800 cyclerange=1/1 } Now for a word from our sponsor: Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: In Memoriam 486 Date: 22 May 1998 22:00:39 -0500 Christian Strik wrote: > > > 0101010101001010100101010010100001010111000101001010010101 > 1100111101110011001110011001010101101010011010010001101000 > 1010101001010101001010010101011001010001010010101010010010 > 1010101001010010101001010010101001010010101001010010101010 > 1110010110100110100110010101001001001010100000101001011010 > 1001001010100101011001010101001101010101101010110101011010 > 0101101011010101101011011010101101101010110110110101101011 > 1001110011001010101101010111111010101111100010111011001100 > 0101101010101101010110101101010101101010101101011010101100 > 1111111110101101010101101010101110110101101010110101101011 > 1110101110101110110101010101011101010101011111010101110101 > 1100110011001100110011 > My mind must be going batty. Somewhere in there I thought I saw a fractal image. :-? Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Formula and pars Date: 22 May 1998 22:34:40 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula is a modification of the equation z=c*(z-1/z) from Mandelbrot's "The Fractal Geometry of Nature." I've included a lot (too many?) pars to give you an idea of what can be done with the formula. Try different values of p1 and real(p2) with different functions. Both real(p1) and imag(p1) should be from -1 to 1. Paul Carlson } frm:Zf_Ang {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; p1 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p2) = controls size of the elements ; imag(p2) = number of iterations to skip ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; z = k = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 w = pixel c = p1 prev_modw2 = 1.0e20 size = real(p2) skip_iters = imag(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / size : w = c * (w - 1 / w) a = 2 * atan(imag(w) / real(w)) a = a * a + c a = fn1(1 - a) / a ; dist = abs(|w| - |a|) IF (dist < size) bailout = 1 IF (iter > skip_iters) k = 1 ENDIF z = (factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1) * k ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20 } izpj01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=asin passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.04167969 params=0.765/0.445/0.35/-1/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000mZy<123>I0Jiya<123>3D0000<3>000 } izpj02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=recip passes=t center-mag=-5.6205e-016/-1.38778e-016/10.70217 params=0.5/0.4/3/-1/8/30 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } izpj03 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=atan passes=t center-mag=-3.08781e-016/-1.97758e-016/62.56762 params=-0.058182009/0.675191868/0.5/-1/8/30 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<14>xw0zz0yw0<11>aG00C4<1\ 5>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eN\ xfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<12>R0BO08O00<15>z88<12>O00000<13>000 } izpj04 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=tanh passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.04167969 params=0.765/0.445/0.35/-1/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000aG0<60>zy0zz0zy0<60>aG0UUU<59>yyyzzzzzzzzz<60>UUU00\ 0<3>000 } izpj05 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=floor passes=t center-mag=-3.05311e-016/-2.22045e-016/6.256762 params=-0.058182009/0.675191868/1.25/-1/8/30 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000GGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40z\ z0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CC000<13>000 } izpj06 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=trunc passes=t center-mag=-3.05311e-016/-2.22045e-016/6.256762 params=-0.058182009/0.675191868/0.3/-1/8/30 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000GGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40z\ z0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CC000<13>000 } izpj07 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=trunc passes=t center-mag=-3.19189e-016/-2.22045e-016/6.7422 params=-0.058182009/0.675191868/3/-1/2/120 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<\ 11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O\ 00c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG0000<10>000zzz000000 } izpj08 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=round passes=t center-mag=-3.05311e-016/-2.22045e-016/6.7422 params=-0.058182009/0.675191868/1/-1/8/30 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } izpj09 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=round passes=t center-mag=-3.60822e-016/-1.80411e-016/8.222195 params=-0.058182009/0.675191868/1/-1/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=801sF_<123>C02Mov<123>HKS000<3>000 } izpj10 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=sin passes=t center-mag=-3.60822e-016/-1.80411e-016/8.222195 params=-0.058182009/0.675191868/1/-1/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000n_z<123>I0Kjzb<123>4E0000<3>000 } izpj11 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=cosxx passes=t center-mag=-3.60822e-016/-1.80411e-016/8.222195 params=-0.058182009/0.675191868/1/-1/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000GGz<123>00Ozzz<123>OOO000<3>000 } izpj12 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=exp passes=t center-mag=-3.60822e-016/-1.80411e-016/8.222195 params=-0.058182009/0.675191868/2/-1/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=801sF_<123>C02Mov<123>HKS000<3>000 } izpj13 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=cabs passes=t center-mag=-3.08781e-016/-1.97758e-016/62.56762 params=-0.058182009/0.675191868/0.8/-1/8/30 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } izpj14 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zfang.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=zero passes=t center-mag=-6.03684e-016/-1.249e-016/23.78323 params=0.5/0.6/0.5/-1/8/30 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000eNy<27>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) more Uc03 pars Date: 22 May 1998 21:15:19 -0700 Here are some more from Morgan Owen's Uc03 which is very different. They seem to me like fossils and jellyfish found on....another shore. (Some of these have little feathery parts that only show at higher res.) found_object1 { ; 5-98 kathy roth ; formula by Morgan Owens ; palette by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=0.10934/0.423359/0.3221982 params=0.1/0.02 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=000wwmhum<11>0mm<7>8eb9da9\ da<12>1VQ0UP1UP<11>GaPHaPIbPKcPKcQLdR<1\ 9>bvkcwmbvl<27>4T53S42R20P00P10P2<20>AZT\ AZUD_S<13>st4000kkk00U<13>Ums<5>\ hrw<4>eoudntcmtblsbksajr<15>PYjOXiOXi\ OXi<4>RYiRYiRYiRYiSZi<25>ZdiZdi_eh`\ fh<14>wwmsvmpvm } found_object2 { ; 5-98 kathy roth ; formula by Morgan Owens ; palette by Sylvie Gallet colors=xn_VX_<4>los<13>SNCQL9QL\ 9QL8QK7<26>vlYxn_xn_xn_<29>RL7QK6QK7QL9<2\ >UQHVSKXUO<9>los<9>788<3>222000001<10>21D\ 22E22F23G23I<7>37R37S48U58W<4>7\ Cd8De8De<29>T_wT_wSZv<28>AFe9Ed8Dc7C\ b7B`<11>12H01F01F<13>014003001001<7>\ STW } found_object3 { ; 5-98 kathy roth ; formula by Morgan Owens ; palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=0.10934/0.423359/0.3221982 params=-0.05/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=mobmnk_jc<4>SgdQfePed<5>L`_K_ZJY\ X<7>8JJ7IH6GF5FE4DD3CB2AA<3>36635\ 6245234235236<3>22D31F42H42J53M64P<14>Q\ 3qS2sT2uU1vV1xX0z<13>RQzQSzQSz<13\ >aaqbbpddr<3>llz<4>gZqeWoeVn<13>W8YV6W\ U6V<14>F0FE0ED0DC0CB1B<4>626255244\ 333222<2>414515717<2>B0DC0FC0H<3>G0PH\ 0RH0SH0U<12>M0oN0qN0q<11>VAuVBvWBu<\ 13>qLZsMXsNX<2>rQWrSVrTVrVUrWU<4>rcVr\ dVqfWqgX<6>qqjpslpsk<3>oqf000kkklob\ <5>bkc } found_object4 { ; 5-98 kathy roth ; formula by Morgan Owens ; palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=0.627126/1.28122/5.034346 params=-0.05/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=mobmnk_jc<4>SgdQfePed<5>L`_K_Z\ JYX<7>8JJ7IH6GF5FE4DD3CB2AA<3>36635\ 6245234235236<3>22D31F42H42J53M64P<14>Q\ 3qS2sT2uU1vV1xX0z<13>RQzQSzQSz<13\ >aaqbbpddr<3>llz<4>gZqeWoeVn<13>W8\ YV6WU6V<14>F0FE0ED0DC0CB1B<4>626255244\ 333222<2>414515717<2>B0DC0FC0H<3>G0PH\ 0RH0SH0U<12>M0oN0qN0q<11>VAuVBvWBu<\ 13>qLZsMXsNX<2>rQWrSVrTVrVUrWU<4>rcV\ rdVqfWqgX<6>qqjpslpsk<3>oqf000kkklob\ <5>bkc } found_object5 { ; 5-98 kathy roth ; formula by Morgan Owens reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=uc03 function=tanh passes=t center-mag=-0.0297253/0.0959019/0.4525255 params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=000PPD_TF<8>vlYxn_yo`zpaw\ n_ukY<16>bVH<11>zpa<4>UWZ<3>QRUzpXNOS<5>\ HHMFFKFFK<3>QQXTT_VWa<6>loslpr<14>O\ I5<11>pgTriVulYxn_zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSY\ UR<3>KJNHGMGFL<10>724602702<20>Q08R09\ S09T0AU0A<6>`0Da0Db2D<14>zVF<10>hAE\ aI9<6>xTF<8>H3AC09908<6>KBDMDEMFF<2>M\ MI000<16>C81D92FB3<2>LG4OI5QK7TM9PP\ D } found_object6 { ; 5-98 kathy roth ; formula by Morgan Owens ; palette from Sylvie Gallet colors=zzzccffss<3>Hii<13>6IK5GI4\ EG4DE3BC39A<4>000svv<6>AUU<22>000zzz<6>\ UdW<18>698586465343222000zzz<6>fbHc\ ZAbYA<21>000zzz<7>mU5<22>000zzz<5>fST\ bMNaMN<22>000zzz<6>WQ_<18>868656545\ 333222000zzz<7>PPZ<22>000zzzccf } found_object7 { ; 5-98 kathy roth ; formula by Morgan Owens ; palette modified from Sylvie Gallet colors=000dgWbXN<14>CA7<12>bXN<6>H\ EA<6>bXN<9>CA7985985<8>A96`VM<3>B97<4>\ CA8000<4>000111333<33>zzz<31>2220\ 00000<61>000111332<29>xn_<8>haRdfW } found_objectdecomp { ; 5-98 kathy roth ; formula by Morgan Owens ; palette by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=0.10934/0.423359/0.3221982 params=0.1/0.02 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 outside=atan colors=_ZX_ZX<34>ssrttsttstts<12>v\ vtwwuwwt<9>wwgwwfwvevud<4>tqZtpYsoXsnV\ rmUrmT<21>eT6eS5eS5<29>O31N20O41N20<10>Q\ 72R82R82S93TA3<14>gQ5hR5iS4<3>mW\ 3nX2nX2nY2<6>rc0rc0rb0<4>pZ1pY1oX2nX\ 2<11>aL4`K4ZI3<2>UG3SG4QF4OF5ME5<2>G\ C6DB7DB7<38>ZYW } the_Fillmore_west { ; 5-98 kathy roth ; formula by Morgan Owens ; palette Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=0.426597/1.59538/0.5672503 params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 invert=1/0/0 colors=202AWeA_i6ci2gi2ce6_e6Wa2_a2W\ Y6SYAOYASaEOaEKYIGYMCYMGaIKaIOeISiMO\ iMKeQGeQKiUGiUCeU8aQCaQ8YU4YU0UQ4UQ0\ QU4QU8MUCIQ8IQ4MM0MM4II0II4MI8QM4QM8\ UICUEGUECQAGQAKU6OU2SU2OQ6KQ6GM2KM2G\ I6CIA8IACME8ME4IE0EE4AA0AA4E68E2CE28\ A64A606246642A82A46E86EC2IG2MK2MG6IC\ 6I8AI4EM8EMCAQGAQCEUGEUKAUO6QK6QO2<2\ >a_2aW6YS6YOAYKEaOEaSAeWAeSEiWEi_Aic\ 6e_6ec2ig2mk2mg6qk6qo2us2yw2ys6uo6uk\ AyoAykEugEqcEqgAmcA<2>mSMqWMq_IucIygI\ ycMu_MuWQy_QyWUuSUqOUqSQmOQmKUiGUeC\ UeGQiKQiOMiSIeOIeKMaGMaKIYGIYCMY8QaC\ Qa8UY4UY0Ya4Ya0aY4aY8eYCia8ia4ee0ee4\ ii0ii4ei8ae4ae8YiCYmGYmCaqGaqKYuOYyS\ YyOauKauGeyKeyGiuCiq8iqCem8em4im0mm4\ qq0qq4mu8myCmy8qu4qu0uy4uy0yu4yq8yq\ 4um8umCyiGyeKyeGuiCui8qi4me8meCqaGqaC\ mYGmYKqYOuaKuaOy<2>Q_yQWuUSuUOqUKmQO\ mQSqMWqMSmIWmI_qIcuM_uMcyIgyEkyEguAk\ uAoy6sy2wy2su6ou6kq2oq2km6gmAcmAgq\ Ecq<2>ESe } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 22 May 1998 18:17:51 -1000 On 22 May 98 at 23:30, Christian Strik wrote: > On the day of Friday, May 22, 1998 my Packard Bell > Legend 950 with a 486dx2-50 and 4MB of RAM suddenly > died. There has been no indication this [snips] > I suggest we all enact a period of silence for 1/18.2 > of a second to remember all of the great computers that > without any complaints, did exactly as we said (not > always doing what we wanted it to do though), > calculating the most beautiful and deep fractals; and > their predecessors and succesors alike. I suggest we all contemplate the miracle that we have just witnessed: a Packard-Bell that actually worked more than a few days! Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond Ignorance can be cured. Stupidity, now that's permanent. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mctupper" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 22 May 1998 22:34:01 -0600 On 22 May 98 at 23:30, Christian Strik wrote: > On the day of Friday, May 22, 1998 my Packard Bell > Legend 950 with a 486dx2-50 and 4MB of RAM suddenly > died. There has been no indication this [snips] [more snips} I suggest we all contemplate the miracle that we have just witnessed: a Packard-Bell that actually worked more than a few days! shush, or my Parkard Bell might hear you. Fortunetly I have a different monitor now, so my Bell can't see the messages. :) Xylen Some people live life in the fast lane---I live in oncoming traffic Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: (fractint) Test mail - ignore this Date: 19 May 1998 22:57:53 +0100 > >Dit is een testmailtje, aangezien mijn vorige vijf mailtjes >nooit zijn opgenomen in deze lijst. - This is a test mail, for >my last five mails have never been included in this list. > >Christian > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil DiGiorgi" Subject: (fractint) PAR some images Date: 23 May 1998 01:22:04 -0400 Here's the coloring technique from Paul Carlson's Hy_Cycle_Jul formula applied to a gravijul. The images are pretty nifty, I think. The color maps use 4 color ranges (4 x 63). Phil D. phild@iinc.com pdhcg201 { ; t= 0:06:14.64 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 21, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-HC_Grav function=atanh/tan/atanh/ident passes=t center-mag=-6.66134e-016/4.44089e-016/0.9363296/1/-90 params=0.98/0/0.03/0/0.2/0.2 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=9C7xzm<7>vxkuxkuxktwjtwj<23>iochobhnbgnafna<19>VeUU\ eUVeUyvd<15>tp_soZsoZrnYrnY<37>`TG`TG_SFZSE_SFZSF<10>W\ QDWPDWPDVPDVPDVOD<6>TNCSMCSMBRMBRLB<17>KG8JF8J\ F7JE7IE7<10>DA5C95DA5TcT<5>SaSRaRRaRR`RR`RQ`Q<11>NWN\ NVMMVMMVLMUL<32>9C79C69C7<2>9C7 cyclerange=1/252 } pdhcg207 { ; t= 0:12:56.65 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 22, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav function=asinh/log/asinh/abs passes=t center-mag=-1.49925/-2.22045e-016/0.6666667/1/-90 params=0.9/0/0.88/0/0.175/0.175 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000wzw<9>YiYWgWWfW<32>121000000<14>000zww<10>l99\ <17>P55N55M55L44J44I44<11>211000000<13>000wwz<10>ggxeexcc\ wbbv<32>222000000<12>000zww<13>hFF<31>211000000<16>000 cyclerange=1/252 } pdhcg209 { ; t= 0:05:16.70 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 23, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav function=recip/abs/acosh/ident passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=1/1.1/0.7/0/0.4/0.3 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000ymi<14>x`Lw_Jw_IwZH<12>uP2tO0tO0<28>i30oE0<61>F\ 00C00<29>OE2OE2OE2OE2OE2<2>RH4SJ5UK7VM8<2>`TDbVFeY\ Hh`JkcMkdMjcLjcLjbLibK<2>eZGdXFbVD`TB<2>TK3UL4ywt<61>dW7\ 000000000 cyclerange=1/252 } pdhcg215 { ; t= 0:05:18.51 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 23, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav function=sqrt/abs/acosh/ident passes=t center-mag=-2.22045e-016/-2.22045e-016/0.691563/1/180 params=0.9/1.5/0.85/0.13/0.5/0.03 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=A85zzz<61>POMc0K<14>X0GW0GV0FU0FU0E<13>L0BL0AK\ 0AJ09I09<5>E06D06C06B05B05A04<9>200100000000000wwk<4>wwf\ vvdwwc<25>fV8fU6eT5eS3dR2cP0<19>WD3WD3VC3UB4VC4KKz<32\ >A0TA0SA0S<23>A0BA0AA0AA0A011011011 cyclerange=1/252 } pdhcg220 { ; t= 0:10:00.61 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 23, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav function=sqrt/abs/acosh/ident passes=t center-mag=4.44089e-016/-4.44089e-016/0.6110794/1/-90 params=1.1/1.5/0.7/0.36/0.22/0.08 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=A85zzy<61>POLc0J<14>X0FW0FV0EU0EU0D<13>L0AL09K09\ J08I08<9>B04A04903803802702<3>400300200100000000000wwj<4>w\ wevvcwwb<29>dR1cP0cP0<18>WD2WD2VC2UB3VC3KKy<32>A0SA0\ RA0R<23>A0AA09A09A09010010010 cyclerange=1/252 } pdhcg221 { ; t= 0:20:17.31 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 23, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav function=sqrt/abs/acosh/sqr passes=t center-mag=4.44089e-016/-4.44089e-016/0.6584907/1/-90 params=0.95/1.375/1.2/0.9/0.4/0.3 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000zrt<12>x_KwYHwXG<11>pG4pE3oE3<32>G40UUr<14>22k00\ j00j<44>00Ezrt<12>x_KwYHwXG<11>pG4pE3oE3<32>G40UUw<14>22k\ 00j00j<44>00E000000000 cyclerange=1/252 } frm:pd-HC_Grav {; formula by P. DiGiorgi, May, 1998 ; uses P. Carlson's Hi_Cycle method ; applied to the Gravijul formula ; by Mark Christenson z = w = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 pa = real(p3), pb = imag(p3) w = fn4(pixel) c = p2 i = (0,1) k = 1.2 - pb : u = fn1(w) w = fn3(p1/fn2(u*u)) wr = real(w) w = w - wr + abs(wr) - c angle = atan(imag(w)/wr) ka = k * angle / pb rw = k * cos(angle) + pb * cos(ka) iw = k * sin(angle) + pb * sin(ka) ww = rw + i * iw dist = abs(|w|-|ww|) IF (dist < pa && iter > 1) bailout = 1 index = 63 * dist / pa z = index + range_num * 63 + 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == 4) range_num = 0 ENDIF z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 100 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)PAR:different Uc03 view Date: 23 May 1998 02:28:06 EDT Hi Kathy Roth got me interested in this frm with her intreagueing postings last nite and today. { Nice views Kathy } Here's a different look at the same frm. Steve ============================================================= 001-P.H.PlayHouse { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:18.84 ; time on Pent.100 ; PeeweeHermansWorld reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list1.frm formulaname=uc03 function=sqr center-mag=0.690362/0.681076/14.57133 params=0.1/64 float=y maxiter=5555 potential=256/200/21 invert=0.20109119945772/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000IIV<8>SivUmzUjw<14>G0A<12>zmm<12>W64U30S25<2>K0K<12>mUm<34>C00\ <15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>000<15>00z<11>00G<14>zzm<10>0A0<15>0zm<12>C0C<4\ >HFR } 002-So... { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:07.41 ; time on Pent.100 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list1.frm formulaname=uc03 function=sqrt center-mag=0.399231/0.415206/1.5625/1/44.996 params=777/1 float=y maxiter=5555 potential=256/200/21 invert=0.20109119945772/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000IIV<8>SivUmzUjw<14>G0A<12>zmm<12>W64U30S25<2>K0K<12>mUm<34>C00\ <15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>000<15>00z<11>00G<14>zzm<10>0A0<15>0zm<12>C0C<4\ >HFR } 003-Paper_Weight { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:09.17 ; time on Pent.100 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list1.frm formulaname=uc03 function=acosh center-mag=0.342568/0.353821/5.813953/1/44.999 params=888/1 float=y maxiter=5555 potential=256/200/21 invert=0.20109119945772/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000IIV<8>SivUmzUjw<14>G0A<12>zmm<12>W64U30S25<2>K0K<12>mUm<34>C00\ <15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>000<15>00z<11>00G<14>zzm<10>0A0<15>0zm<12>C0C<4\ >HFR } 004-Paper_Weight-2 { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:04.11 ; time on Pent.100 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list1.frm formulaname=uc03 function=acos center-mag=0.352011/0.358544/5.813953/1/44.998 params=888/1 float=y maxiter=5555 potential=256/200/21 invert=0.20109119945772/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000IIV<8>SivUmzUjw<14>G0A<12>zmm<12>W64U30S25<2>K0K<12>mUm<34>C00\ <15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>000<15>00z<11>00G<14>zzm<10>0A0<15>0zm<12>C0C<4\ >HFR } 005-owl { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:19.00 ; time on Pent.100 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list1.frm formulaname=uc03 function=cotan center-mag=-0.208705/-0.192751/0.5/1/44.999 params=999/999 float=y maxiter=5555 potential=256/178/44 invert=0.20109119945772/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000IIV<8>SivUmzUjw<14>G0A<12>zmm<12>W64U30S25<2>K0K<12>mUm<34>C00\ <15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>000<15>00z<11>00G<14>zzm<10>0A0<15>0zm<12>C0C<4\ >HFR } 006-Devilish_Grin { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:02.97 ; time on Pent.100 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list1.frm formulaname=uc03 function=log center-mag=0.348282/0.364256/2/1/-135 params=999/999 float=y maxiter=5555 potential=256/193/44 invert=0.20109119945772/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000IIV<8>SivUmzUjw<14>G0A<12>zmm<12>W64U30S25<2>K0K<12>mUm<34>C00\ <15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>000<15>00z<11>00G<14>zzm<10>0A0<15>0zm<12>C0C<4\ >HFR } 007-AlienNet { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:18.90 ; time on Pent.100 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list1.frm formulaname=uc03 function=cosxx center-mag=-0.30097/-0.285019/1/1/-135 params=999/999 float=y maxiter=5555 potential=256/190/44 invert=0.20109119945772/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000IIV<8>SivUmzUjw<14>G0A<12>zmm<12>W64U30S25<2>K0K<12>mUm<34>C00\ <15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>000<15>00z<11>00G<14>zzm<10>0A0<15>0zm<12>C0C<4\ >HFR } 008-Pendulum { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:02.47 ; time on Pent.100 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list1.frm formulaname=uc03 function=sqrt center-mag=0.678811/0.694795/1/1/-135 params=66/444 float=y maxiter=5555 potential=256/199/44 invert=0.20109119945772/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000IIV<8>SivUmzUjw<14>G0A<12>zmm<12>W64U30S25<2>K0K<12>mUm<34>C00\ <15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>000<15>00z<11>00G<14>zzm<10>0A0<15>0zm<12>C0C<4\ >HFR } 009-DaO_Da,a,a,aO { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:04.40 ; time on Pent.100 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list1.frm formulaname=uc03 function=atanh center-mag=0.22729/0.233224/4.703492/1/-135 params=999/999 float=y maxiter=5555 potential=256/195/1 invert=0.20109119945772/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000IIV<8>SivUmzUjw<14>G0A<12>zmm<12>W64U30S25<2>K0K<12>mUm<34>C00\ <15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>000<15>00z<11>00G<14>zzm<10>0A0<15>0zm<12>C0C<4\ >HFR } frm:Uc03{; = 2z(2z-1)U02-U01 ;Prerelease 16/04/1998 t=p1,bailout=4,z=pixel: x=real(z),y=imag(z) ax=4*x-2,ay=4*y-2 Tx=fn1(ax*(ax*ax-2)) Ty=fn1(ay*(ay*ay-2)) x=x-t*Ty,y=y+t*Tx z=x+flip(y) |z|<=bailout} } ============================================================================== ==== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)PAR:Variety Pack Date: 23 May 1998 03:55:00 EDT Hi Heres a Variety of pars. Steve =========================================================== 001-SweatLodge { ; (c) Steve Karl 10/2/97 t= 0:13:39.38...pent.100 ; time on Pent.100 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=halleysin passes=b center-mag=8.405e-006/8.315e-006/0.4116113 params=0.1/-0.131 colors=000ZpZ<8>0c0<14>030000200<13>`00c00d44<13>zzz<3>snNukDsh3qe0<2>kX\ 0aU0<9>I00<8>000300000003005<5>D0KF0MJ0P<3>Q0ZS0`U2cW4d<2>aGhcKieMkgOmiW\ okYpmbqoesqjusovupwxvyzzzyvxwpuvosujqseoqbmpYkoWimOgkMeiKc<2>f8Yd4Wc2U`0\ S<4>R0IP0GN0GL0C<4>B02900700500005<13>00c<15>zzz<15>EEcBBa88Z<2>00S<9>00\ 3000022<14>0cc<15>zzz<5>bqb } 002-MandelGalactic { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:02.31 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 ; modified Wizmap reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-0.77204313257326350/-0.11499383242370940/162100.9/2.0199/143\ .898/3.625 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=999999999 inside=maxiter colors=000ZIU<20>C00<15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<12>0CC000000000<15>00z<11>00G<\ 14>zzm<10>0A0<15>0zm<12>C0C<14>SivUmzUjw<5>PSdOP`NMYMJULGR<4>G0A<12>zmm<\ 12>W64U30S25<2>K0K<12>mUm<12>_JV } 003-Jungle_Top { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:01:27.94 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=ok-21 function=ceil/sqr/exp passes=b center-mag=-0.19020831550000000/+0.88439753650000010/39.42112/2.0006 params=888/-888 decomp=256 colors=0000VF0QG<4>0VO0XQ0WP<4>0RHGQG0PF4OF0NE<12>096E85<7>000<21>VSI0B0\ YVJZWK_XL<5>maP<2>g`Oe_NcZN`YM_XL<17>BB7996885664553332221000<2>14326537\ 64974B8<17>HbUIdVKeV<4>VlZ<3>NhXLgXJeWIcV<19>386375254243122000<18>MOXNP\ YOQ_PS`QTbRVcSWe<6>dch<2>``hZ_hXZhVYgTXf<24>110<6>D85095<6>0G90HA0IB0JC0\ KD0LD0MEbNEdOF } 004-Origami-2 { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:04.07 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=ok-21 function=abs/sqr/flip center-mag=3.63798e-012/-1.31984/0.04069012/0.01/180 params=1874919424/1e+020 float=y maxiter=647 decomp=256 colors=00000088C<9>KLULMVMNXNPYOR_<2>RVcSWeUXe<5>dch<2>``hZ_hXZhVYgTXf<2\ 4>110<6>D85095<5>0F80G90HA0IB0JC<2>0MEbNEdOF00F0QG<4>0VO0XQ0WP<4>0RHGQG0\ PF4OF0NE<12>096E85<7>000<10>FE92FA4HA9IBBJCMKD<5>VSI0B0YVJZWK_XL<5>maP<2\ >g`Oe_NcZN`YM_XL<15>ED9CC8BB7996885664<2>221000111<3>3764974B85D95EA<15>\ HbUIdVKeV<4>VlZ<3>NhXLgXJeWIcV<19>386375254243122000<4>568 } 005_Misty_Mountain { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:08.62 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=lambdafn function=abs center-mag=+0.00056457499999829/+0.00207519500000197/0.3958125/5 params=2/0.4 float=y maxiter=647 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=zY9CVc<15>AFs7Au45wS0z00z<27>SDgTEfSEd<15>000<35>zzz<34>888077440\ 990B70EA0HB7<2>QH9TG0XM0ZMB<8>zaIzaIvcLzeP<4>zoZzq`zqbzsdzqbzo`zm`zjXzhU\ zfI<2>z_BzY9zV9zU8vR8tP7rM6pK5pI4nG3gE2cC2XB1S90N70J60G50C406AA0CC<7>0SS\ 0UU0VV0WW<15>0kkFllKmmUnn<2>0ll<9>0bb0aa0__0YY<5>0MM8NQCLRCKUCWYCVb } 006-b-RedOrchid-FN { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:01:19.97 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-7-04 function=asin/atanh/abs passes=1 center-mag=-5.14433e-012/-3.54919/0.00547548 params=24/48/0.0001/1/3/12 float=y maxiter=8 inside=122 outside=summ potential=256/200/2 invert=0.003/0/0 decomp=256 finattract=y colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<11>jj0 } 007-"BugOut" { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:04.23 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-01 function=cosxx/ident/acosh center-mag=0.161681/0.16131/1/1/-135 params=111/222/0.01/1e-005/111/88 float=y maxiter=2 inside=0 outside=1 potential=256/200/99 invert=1/0/0 decomp=235 colors=nruQK8OI5<6>eYJg_LiaNkcPneR<4>zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<6>AAK<3>ALQAO\ SARUBUWBXY<6>DqlDtnCql<6>7Ta<6>L4R<8>VHI<7>zH0<8>SDF<3>N3JL0KL1KM2KN3KO4\ J<12>zz0<7>``9YYAXVB<6>KAJMAKOAM<12>ziF<13>K8C413000<15>svcsvcsvcsvc<11>\ YRK000WPJUMHSJF<6>EAb<6>7Nu5Px5Nu<5>A5c<2>D6WE7UG8SH9QJANKBL000OEK<5>_VZ\ `Y`b`cdcf<2>jlolorlpr<12>RNC } 008-Max { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:01.59 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-01 function=cosxx/ident/acosh center-mag=0.50504/0.506422/30.89888/1/45 params=444/444/0.008999999999999999/1e-005/333/1122 float=y maxiter=128 inside=0 outside=1 potential=256/200/99 invert=1/0/0 decomp=235 colors=nruQK8OI5<6>eYJg_LiaNkcPneR<4>zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<6>AAK<3>ALQAO\ SARUBUWBXY<6>DqlDtnCql<6>7Ta<6>L4R<8>VHI<7>zH0<8>SDF<3>N3JL0KL1KM2KN3KO4\ J<12>zz0<7>``9YYAXVB<6>KAJMAKOAM<12>ziF<13>K8C413000<15>svcsvcsvcsvc<11>\ YRK000WPJUMHSJF<6>EAb<6>7Nu5Px5Nu<5>A5c<2>D6WE7UG8SH9QJANKBL000OEK<5>_VZ\ `Y`b`cdcf<2>jlolorlpr<12>RNC } 009-Dance { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:04.62 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-01 function=exp/ident/atanh center-mag=0.0986183/0.098718/1.336898/1/44.998 params=666/333/0.049/1e-005/16/6 float=y maxiter=55555 inside=0 outside=1 potential=256/200/99 invert=1/0/0 decomp=235 colors=nruQK8OI5<6>eYJg_LiaNkcPneR<4>zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<6>AAK<3>ALQAO\ SARUBUWBXY<6>DqlDtnCql<6>7Ta<6>L4R<8>VHI<7>zH0<8>SDF<3>N3JL0KL1KM2KN3KO4\ J<12>zz0<7>``9YYAXVB<6>KAJMAKOAM<12>ziF<13>K8C413000<15>svcsvcsvcsvc<11>\ YRK000WPJUMHSJF<6>EAb<6>7Nu5Px5Nu<5>A5c<2>D6WE7UG8SH9QJANKBL000OEK<5>_VZ\ `Y`b`cdcf<2>jlolorlpr<12>RNC } frm:Gallet-6-01 { ; Sylvie Gallet [101324,3444], 1996 z = pixel , x = real(z) , y = imag(z) : x1 = x - p1*fn1(y + p2*fn2(x - p3*fn3(y))) y1 = y - p1*fn1(x + p2*fn2(y - p3*fn3(x))) x = x1 , y = y1 z = x + flip(y) |z| <= 32 } frm:Gallet-7-04 { ; Sylvie Gallet [101324,3444], 1997 j = -0.5 + flip(0.5*sqrt(3)) , j2 = j*j z = pixel : x = z*j , y = z*j2 x1 = x - p1*fn1(x + fn2(p2*y) + fn3(p3*z)) y1 = y - p1*fn1(y + fn2(p2*z) + fn3(p3*x)) z1 = z - p1*fn1(z + fn2(p2*x) + fn3(p3*y)) z = z1 + x1*j + y1*j2 |z| <= 32 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 23 May 1998 12:36:48 +0100 Shauna Jones wrote: >>I suggest we all contemplate the miracle that we have just witnessed: a Packard-Bell that actually worked more than a few days! << It even worked 1303 days - holidays included - :-). Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Test mail - ignore this - ignore this too! Date: 23 May 1998 12:45:22 +0100 For those who couldn't obey the subject line instructions - the mail quoted here was -as you can probably see- posted quite some days ago. From the 17th to the 19th my (six) mails didn't show up. Now four of them have, days later than meant to be. Sorry for that, Christian -----Original Message----- >> >>Dit is een testmailtje, aangezien mijn vorige vijf mailtjes >>nooit zijn opgenomen in deze lijst. - This is a test mail, for >>my last five mails have never been included in this list. >> >>Christian >> Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Formula and pars Date: 23 May 1998 15:31:29 -0400 Hi Paul, >> This formula is a modification of the equation z=3Dc*(z-1/z) from >> Mandelbrot's "The Fractal Geometry of Nature." I've included a lot >> (too many?) pars to give you an idea of what can be done with the >> formula. Great images! I played a bit with the formula, here is the result: SG_Zf_Ang_01 { ; . t=3D 0:01:57= =2E92 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, May 23, 1998 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D_z.frm formulaname=3Dzf_ang function=3Dround passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-1.12818/0.194412/1.718213/-1 params=3D-0.45/-0.15/0.35/-1/7/36 float=3Dy maxiter=3D252 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm colors=3D000xyy<14>KdY<40>ANG9MF9LG<3>8GL7EN7EO<7>7ES7ET6EU6FV7GW<3>ANZ= BP_\ DR`<5>KcdMeeOff<10>www<34>4BX29W29V2AT<14>www<15>Ka8Nb8Qd8<14>tsVwuXwu`= <\ 6>yyz<22>RSjPRiOPf<8>A0AF1C<5>XDQ_FT`IV<14>zzz } SG_Zf_Ang_02 { ; . t=3D 0:08:03= =2E61 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, May 23, 1998 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D_z.frm formulaname=3Dzf_ang function=3Dexp passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-8.88178e-016/4.44089e-016/0.3302181 params=3D0.755/0.45/0.4/-1/2/125 float=3Dy maxiter=3D252 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm colors=3D442svs<31>iogiogioghnfhnfgme<48>LRLLRKKQKKPK<20>9D99C98B87A779= 7<9\ >000zxn<6>yvkxvkxvkxvkxvj<44>keQjdPjdPicPicO<12>bXJbXJaWJaWJ`VI<40>B95A= 8\ 5985874863<4>442331432 } SG_Zf_Ang_03 { ; . t=3D 0:02:25= =2E60 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, May 23, 1998 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D_z.frm formulaname=3Dzf_ang function=3Dcos passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0/0/0.6666667 params=3D0.2/0.53/0.4/-1/2/125 float=3Dy maxiter=3D255 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm colors=3D000uux<2>stvrsuprs<2>npqmopmopmop<8>fjieihdhgcgfbgf<3>ZdbZdbYc= aYc\ aXb`<2>VaZU`YU`YU`Y<12>OVSOVSOVSOVSOUR<68>000wwc<19>kbFkaEj`DiZBiZBhYA<= 1\ 2>aM2`L1`L1`K1<10>WE3WD3WC3VB4UB4<5>S75R66R66R66<26>K11J11J11I00I00<30>= 0\ 00wvyvvx } SG_Zf_Ang_04 { ; . t=3D 0:02:03= =2E53 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, May 23, 1998 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D_z.frm formulaname=3Dzf_ang function=3Dtan passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0/0/0.6426667 params=3D0.02/0.5/0.5/-1/5/51 float=3Dy maxiter=3D255 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm colors=3D990EM7EM7FN8GN8GO9<14>QWIRWJSXKTYLUZM<19>nrmosnptprur<3>vywxzy= xyx\ <11>smdslbrl`qk_<3>ngUmeTldRkbP<8>`QB_P9YN7XL5VJ4UH2SE0<15>CG2CG2DG2<6>= F\ I4FI4FI4FJ4GJ4GJ5<4>IL6JL7JM7KN8<2>LP9MQ9NRAOSB<17>beRceSdfU<21>wwvxxwy= y\ xyyzyyxyxw<9>vsmvsmvslvskvrj<9>vo`vo_unZumY<13>hXGgVEfUE<13>HG3FF2DG1BG= 0\ 9G07H0<7>BK4CK4DL5DL6EL6 } SG_Zf_Ang_05 { ; . t=3D 0:03:08= =2E66 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, May 23, 1998 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D_z.frm formulaname=3Dzf_ang function=3Dtan passes=3D1 center-mag=3D1.11022e-016/-1.11022e-016/3.875= 969 params=3D-0.05/-0.5/0.45/-1/2/125 float=3Dy maxiter=3D252 inside=3D253 outside=3Dsumm colors=3D442qxz<58>G_aFZ`FZ`FZ`<61>0AAyyv<117>AA5AA5994883<4>5500000000= 00 } SG_Zf_Ang_06 { ; . t=3D 0:03:07= =2E18 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, May 23, 1998 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D_z.frm formulaname=3Dzf_ang function=3Dtan passes=3D1 center-mag=3D1.11022e-016/-1.11022e-016/3.875= 969 params=3D-0.05/-0.5/0.45/-1/5/51 float=3Dy maxiter=3D252 inside=3D253 outside=3Dsumm colors=3D000bmi<11>zzz<16>9IL<13>HXaIZcJac<5>RmhSoiUoh<10>zwU<16>0P0<10= >Li\ XNk_PmcQnfSpiUrm<4>www<4>mqkkpihnfflc<12>AR1<4>L`6Nb7Qd8Te8<8>wrB<11>yy= v\ zzzyyz<16>_`nY_mWXj<6>ICPG9LG8K<3>D4GC3EA0AF1CL2F<3>UCOWFQXHS<14>www<7>= j\ uU<10>0bT<4>0UK<18>`lh } Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 23 May 1998 09:48:18 -1000 On 23 May 98 at 12:36, Christian Strik wrote: > Shauna Jones wrote: > > >>I suggest we all contemplate the miracle that we have > just witnessed: a Packard-Bell that actually worked more > than a few days! << > > It even worked 1303 days - holidays included - :-). Isn't there some kind of law against making computers work on holidays? Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond And God said: E = /mv2 - Ze2/r, and there was light! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) fractal chat Date: 23 May 1998 13:14:12 -0700 For those who were wondering why I never appeared this AM for some chat......I appologise. Apparently there was a problem here in lost angeles and I couldn't get onto the web to do anything at all until the afternoon. Monday is a holiday here in the US......how about trying again at 8AM PDT????? That is 11AM EDT and 4PM British Summer Time. Hopefully it is not too late in oz. See you on the Undernet in #fractals Angela.... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 23 May 1998 16:47:02 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 18 May 1998, Paul Derbyshire wrote: > > civil rights are not special rights > > What the heck does this mean exactly? It means that homosexuals and bisexuals are not asking for "special" rights when they want to, say, marry someone of the same sex; we just want the same rights as everyone else. Cliff Crawford | Windows NT crashed. http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ | I am the Blue Screen of Death. | No one hears your screams. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: RE: (fractint) Calc method Date: 23 May 1998 16:48:01 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 18 May 1998, Peter Gavin wrote: > // > civil rights are not special rights > // > // What the heck does this mean exactly? > > Umm... you know what affirmative action is? Actually it's got nothing to do with affirmitive action. Cliff Crawford | Windows NT crashed. http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ | I am the Blue Screen of Death. | No one hears your screams. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractal books Date: 23 May 1998 16:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Thanks to everyone who posted book suggestions! I went to the library this week and got "The Science of Fractal Images", Michael Barnsley's "Fractals Everywhere", and "The Fractal Geometry of Nature". They all look really good, especially Fractals Everywhere since it's got a nice rigorous mathematical treatment which is what I was looking for... Cliff Crawford | Windows NT crashed. http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ | I am the Blue Screen of Death. | No one hears your screams. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) No Fotn...you can't stand it? Try this... Date: 23 May 1998 16:55:46 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 19 May 1998, Jay Hill wrote: > For a very limited time, while there is space on my site for it, > you can find out why I play with fractals.... Down load this: > Badday.mpg in a 388kB zip file. It is an Mpeg where we see > a guy loose it with his computer. One of the funniest > 25 seconds yet! > > http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotNindx.html#The latest > > He needs some fractal time real soon! Naaah, it is too late... Being a computer lab operator, this mpeg really disturbs me. I could just imagine one of the many frustrated users in here suddenly freaking out and doing something like that.....:/ Cliff Crawford | Windows NT crashed. http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ | I am the Blue Screen of Death. | No one hears your screams. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractal Chat Date: 23 May 1998 17:03:11 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 19 May 1998, RJ Corradino wrote: > Now, out of curiosity, is anyone going to register #fractals? This way the > channel would be (to some degree) open 24/7 for anyone to stop in. This > would definately introduce a lot of new people to fractint, so thats another > benefit(or drawback, depending on your outlook on life :)). It's hard to register channels on Undernet. IIRC you need a certain minimum amount of traffic and ops who can be online most of the day. Same for EFnet. DALnet would be a lot easier to register a channel on, but not everyone can get on DALnet. > The one difficulty is, some of us would need to be channel > operators(affectionately known as Ops). Basically, all Ops need to do is: > Keep the conversation alive > Help answer newbie questions(either about IRC or Fractals) > Kick out anyone who becomes a major problem I've been IRCing for a while, so I'd volunteer to be an op. If I had the time, that is. :( Cliff Crawford | Windows NT crashed. http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ | I am the Blue Screen of Death. | No one hears your screams. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Formula and pars Date: 23 May 1998 16:02:56 -0500 (CDT) Hi Sylvie... > I played a bit with the formula, here is the result: Beautiful images! It just so happens that you numbered them in my order of preference, best first: >SG_Zf_Ang_01 >SG_Zf_Ang_02 >SG_Zf_Ang_03 >SG_Zf_Ang_04 >SG_Zf_Ang_05 >SG_Zf_Ang_06 Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 23 May 1998 17:15:52 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 19 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > Cliff wrote : > > > // >>Speaking of Microsoft's spell checker, try this out: Go into > // Word, type > // >>'zzzz' and spell-check it and see what's really on Bill Gates' mind. > > The dutch version of the ms spell checker delivered with office 97 dutch > does the same. That's really weird. It must be a worldwide conspiracy. ;) Cliff Crawford | Windows NT crashed. http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ | I am the Blue Screen of Death. | No one hears your screams. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)PAR:Variety Pack#2 Date: 23 May 1998 18:19:49 EDT Hi Here's an other random assortment. Steve =========================================================== 001-Flower { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:01:37.49 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-7-04 function=atan/trunc/tan center-mag=-1.77636e-014/1.42109e-014/0.05749485 params=4/0.1/0.0001/2/9e-007/12 float=y maxiter=1410065407 inside=64 potential=256/200/222 invert=3/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000j0j<3>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N000<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>0\ 00<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<15>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<10>f0f } 002-AlienFlower-2 { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:02:55.65 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-7-04 function=recip/tan/flip passes=1 center-mag=-0.00000000000001911/-0.00029517599999999/341.5885 params=3/3/2/2/1/0.001 float=y maxiter=55555 inside=64 potential=256/200/222 invert=0.007/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000yU5<44>j6yj6zk7y<30>zYpzYpxXo<37>01F<20>BS8f6E<17>416<35>Qba<1\ 5>1MV<43>xU5 } 003-Mutation-3 { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:03:28.93 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-7-04 function=recip/tan/flip passes=1 center-mag=-0.00000000000001911/-0.00029517599999999/341.5885 params=1/6/3/2/3/0.001 float=y maxiter=55555 inside=64 potential=256/200/222 invert=0.007/0/0 decomp=256 colors=000yU5<44>j6yj6zk7y<30>zYpzYpxXo<37>01F<20>BS8f6E<17>416<35>Qba<1\ 5>1MV<43>xU5 } 004-Plant_Life { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:05:18.12 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-7-04 function=recip/tan/flip center-mag=-0.00124367125566097/-0.00420672605476846/12199.59 params=2/0.001/2/2/1/0.001 float=y maxiter=55555 inside=64 potential=256/200/2 invert=0.007/0/0 decomp=256 colors=00000F<4>003000022<14>0cc<15>zzz<15>0cc<14>033000200<13>`00c00d44\ <13>zzz<15>c00<14>300000020<14>0c0<15>zzz<15>0c0<14>030000002<14>00c<15>\ zzz<15>00c<8>00I } 005.clamshell { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:26.80 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=magnet1m passes=b center-mag=-8.44743429286587900/-6.63272120200328500/0.25/8.5333 params=0.5/4 float=y decomp=256 colors=0007R1<7>Au3A53<9>yr_810<10>dG4BC7<3>Zy`812<9>dHW731<12>fpO631<13\ >RjG590<3>9i1A54<7>smbE98<3>qleEG1NW2Wk4A07<2>R2U830<8>gV6504<5>05W453<2\ >0MF546<5>ASh850<9>gs9D41<4>rRA606<6>D4oA62<6>hoN800<14>xA1542<12>3ud64F\ 79U8EiC8B<2>_Wg702<9>TAW62DWBZ<2>aEgdFjdFh<9>dAJ<4>FtS<13>5T7<5>SlT000 } 006-Dragons { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:01:54.74 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=newtonsinexp center-mag=3.174e-005/2.685e-006/0.6666676 params=3337/410065408 maxiter=647 decomp=64 colors=000A00<12>R00S00V50<4>fT0iY0lb0og0ne2<15>800C10<9>jEC<28>B4393283\ 2621521310210000<32>000000011012<39>4OV5PW5PW6QW<2>8RW9SXATXBUYDVZ<39>zz\ yencfoc022<14>1Ue<2>1PZ1NW1LT1JQ1HO<5>167145122000100<3>600000kkk } 007-EskimoToothPic { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:13.84 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=g-3-03-m function=cosxx/sqrt center-mag=-3.63798e-012/-10.1184/0.112/0.1/45/-45 params=0.99999/0.0001/0.0037/665 float=y maxiter=647 inside=maxiter outside=summ decomp=32 colors=000GBB<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<2>BGFBGGBFGBDGBCG_VZ<6>lor00e0e00eee0\ 0e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<3>HHHKKKOOOSSSWWW___ccchhhmmmss\ szzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zVz<3>zVV<3>zzV<3>VzV<3\ >Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>zhh<3>zzh<3>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00S<3>S0S<3>S00<3>SS0<3\ >0S0<3>0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2>EHSKKS<2>QKSSKSSKQSK\ OSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3>G0G<3>G00<3>GG0<3>0G\ 0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<2>GE8GG8EG8CG8AG88G8<2>8GE8GG8EG8C\ G8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBC } 008_Port_Hole { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:08.19 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm formulaname=ok-35 function=sqr/abs center-mag=9.925e-006/-6.05e-006/0.4975748/1/44.999 params=-1/0.0005/1/0 float=y maxiter=647 bailout=3 inside=0 outside=imag colors=A00A00<12>R00S00V50<4>fT0iY0lb0og0ne2<15>800C10<9>jEC<30>83262152\ 1310210000<32>000000011012<39>4OV5PW5PW6QW<2>8RW9SXATXBUYDVZ<39>zzyencfo\ c022<14>1Ue<2>1PZ1NW1LT1JQ1HO<5>167145122000100<3>600000kkk orbitdelay=6 } 009-Aztec_Chipset { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:03:45.64 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=g-3-03-m function=cosxx/ceil center-mag=-80.2731/-80.2282/0.02346641/1/44.996 params=0.99999/0.0001/0.0037/105 float=y maxiter=647 inside=maxiter outside=summ decomp=64 colors=000BDFBCF_VY<6>loq00d0e00ede00e0deL0eedLLKLLyLzKLzyzLKzLyzzKzzy00\ 0554<3>HHGKKJOONSSRWWV__Zccbhhgmmlssrzzy00y<3>z0y<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0z\ y<2>0GyVVy<3>zVy<3>zVU<3>zzU<3>VzU<3>Vzy<2>Vbyhhy<3>zhy<3>zhg<3>zzg<3>hz\ g<3>hzy<2>hly00R<3>S0R<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>0SR<2>07REER<3>SER<3>SED<3>SS\ D<3>ESD<3>ESR<2>EHRKKR<2>QKRSKRSKPSKNSKLSKJ<2>SQJSSJQSJOSJMSJKSJ<2>KSPKS\ RKQRKORKMR00F<3>G0F<3>G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GF<2>04F88F<2>E8FG8FG8DG8BG89G8\ 7<2>GE7GG7EG7CG7AG78G7<2>8GD8GF8EF8CF8AFBBF<2>FBFGBFGBEGBCGBBGBA<2>GFAGG\ AFGADGACGABGA<2>BGEBGFBFF orbitdelay=6 } 010_Heat_Sink { ; (c) Steve Karl May 23, 1998 t= 0:00:05.33 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm formulaname=ok-35 function=sqr/abs center-mag=9.925e-006/-6.05e-006/0.4975748/1/44.999 params=-1/0.0005/1/0 float=y maxiter=647 bailout=3 inside=0 outside=mult colors=000A00<12>R00S00V50<4>fT0iY0lb0og0ne2<15>800C10<9>jEC<30>83262152\ 1310210000<32>000000011012<39>4OV5PW5PW6QW<2>8RW9SXATXBUYDVZ<39>zzyencfo\ c022<14>1Ue<2>1PZ1NW1LT1JQ1HO<5>167145122000100<3>600000kkk orbitdelay=6 } frm:Gallet-7-04 { ; Sylvie Gallet [101324,3444], 1997 j = -0.5 + flip(0.5*sqrt(3)) , j2 = j*j z = pixel : x = z*j , y = z*j2 x1 = x - p1*fn1(x + fn2(p2*y) + fn3(p3*z)) y1 = y - p1*fn1(y + fn2(p2*z) + fn3(p3*x)) z1 = z - p1*fn1(z + fn2(p2*x) + fn3(p3*y)) z = z1 + x1*j + y1*j2 |z| <= 32 } ========================================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 24 May 1998 11:47:41 +1200 At 17:15 23/05/98 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, 19 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > >> Cliff wrote : >> >> >> // >>Speaking of Microsoft's spell checker, try this out: Go into >> // Word, type >> // >>'zzzz' and spell-check it and see what's really on Bill Gates' mind. >> >> The dutch version of the ms spell checker delivered with office 97 dutch >> does the same. > >That's really weird. It must be a worldwide conspiracy. ;) > Don't worry, it also tries to replace "uncomputable" with "incompatible" :-D Morgan. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RParracho Subject: (fractint) QUICKIE PAR AND FRM Date: 23 May 1998 20:37:01 EDT A quick posting. STRANGE_HALLEY { ; RSP 23MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf003.frm formulaname=rsp_3170 passes=t center-mag=-0.53954283568075090/-0.72923775879787770/262.0314 params=1/0 float=y maxiter=256 periodicity=0 colors=000E0l<5>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ<2>0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm\ 0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy\ 2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Eq03x60t<6>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ0Ye0Nk0Eq03x60t<6\ >z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz\ 0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0E\ q03x60t<6>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ0Ye0Nk0Eq03x60t } STRANGE_HALLEY2 { ; RSP 23MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf003.frm formulaname=rsp_3170 passes=t center-mag=-0.54326038491758350/-0.72792659641197390/1.007813e+007/1/-57\ .5 params=1/0 float=y maxiter=256 periodicity=0 colors=0002jX0bc0Si0Er03y60u<6>z01z61<6>zy1tz1<4>Hz1Ex6<4>0g_0Yf0Nl0Er03\ y60u<6>z01z61<6>zy1tz1<4>Hz1Ex6<4>0g_0Si0Jo08v20y<6>v05z21<5>zm1zu1xz1<3\ >Tz1Lz1Fy3<4>2jX0bc0Si0Jo08v20y<6>v05z21<5>zm1zu1xz1<3>Tz1Lz1Fy3<4>2jX0b\ c0Si0Er03y60u<6>z01z61<6>zy1tz1<4>Hz1Ex6<4>0g_0Yf0Nl0Er03y60u<6>z01z61<6\ >zy1tz1<4>Hz1Ex6<4>0g_<2>0Jo08v20y<6>v05z21<5>zm1zu1xz1<3>Tz1Lz1Fy3<4>2j\ X0bc0Si0Jo08v20y<6>v05z21<5>zm1zu1xz1<3>Tz1Lz1Fy3<3>5mR } SNAILS { ; RSP 23MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf005.frm formulaname=rsp_5010 passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=2/0/4/0 float=y maxiter=256 periodicity=0 colors=000E0m<5>z01z61<6>zy1tz1<4>Hz1Ex6<4>0g_<2>0Jo08v20y<6>v05z21<5>zm\ 1zu1xz1<3>Tz1Lz1Fy3<4>2jX0bc0Si0Jo08v20y<6>v05z21<5>zm1zu1xz1<3>Tz1Lz1Fy\ 3<4>2jX0bc0Si0Er03y60u<6>z01z61<6>zy1tz1<4>Hz1Ex6<4>0g_0Yf0Nl0Er03y60u<6\ >z01z61<6>zy1tz1<4>Hz1Ex6<4>0g_0Si0Jo08v20y<6>v05z21<5>zm1zu1xz1<3>Tz1Lz\ 1Fy3<4>2jX0bc0Si0Jo08v20y<6>v05z21<5>zm1zu1xz1<3>Tz1Lz1Fy3<4>2jX0bc0Si0E\ r03y60u<6>z01z61<6>zy1tz1<4>Hz1Ex6<4>0g_0Yf0Nl0Er03y60u } COSMIC_NET { ; RSP 23MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf005.frm formulaname=rsp_5010 center-mag=-0.86385/0.00626305/2.898551 params=3.5/0/8/0 float=y maxiter=256 symmetry=none periodicity=0 colors=000sss<19>GGGEEECCE<4>22E00F00G<23>00x00z01z<28>Puz<31>1BR09P19Q<\ 13>MMiONkQPk<13>wwyzzzzwx<14>z0Nv0M<18>4B7<9>EXLCYLA_K<14>zyyzzz<19>uu0<\ 16>yyvzzzyyywwwuuu } rsp_3170 { ;RSP 23MAY98 z=c=pixel: ;P1 IS NORMALLY 1 f=2.5*z*z*z-1.5*z, g=7.5*z*z-1.5, h=15*z, z=z-p1*f/(g-(h*(c-z)^2)/(2*g)), .001<=|f|} rsp_5010 { ;RSP 23MAY98 ;P1 IS ZOOM OUT CANT BE ZERO ;P2 IS BAILOUT VALUE z=c=p1*pixel: f=1/tanh(z), g=log(sinh(z)), z=z-f/g, |f|<=p2} REGARDS, Rui Parracho Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) No Fotn...you can't stand it? Try this... Date: 23 May 1998 21:02:48 -0400 At 04:55 PM 5/23/1998 -0400, you wrote: (snipped) It is an Mpeg where we see a guy loose it with his computer. One of the funniest 25 seconds yet! ======================================================= >Being a computer lab operator, this mpeg really disturbs me. I could >just imagine one of the many frustrated users in here suddenly freaking >out and doing something like that.....:/ >Cliff Crawford ============================================================= Way off topic - but this day as I returned to attempt some wordie processing stuff, I found that for no reason one project refused to open w/WP8 claiming something about WP 6.0/6.1. In a way I can sympathize with the man who "lost" it, but I am not sure smashing my monitor would help in retrieving about a year's worth of work. Instead it is time to smile and figure out what happened, why, and prevent a recurrance. Explanations have not yet surfaced, but I did find a work around to retrieve the info...maybe I should have been fractaling - or else I have been spending to much time doing so... davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) PAR: Carlson frm pars Date: 23 May 1998 21:53:30 -0400 These pars are based on Paul Carlson's Zf_Ang formula posted a few days ago. If you don't have the formula you can download it and all others Paul posted to this list at my web page. This is an extremely versatile formula. Don't miss the pars based on this formula Sylvie Gallet posted earlier today. They are gorgeous! Gedeon gp-zfa-01 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson ; Color map by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=acosh passes=1 center-mag=-4.16334e-016/3.05311e-016/2.781486 params=-0.5939/0.6669/0.45/-1/8/30 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zzc<28>K5Azzm<28>K0A0wz<28>K0AGGz<28>K0KfOz\ <28>K0Fzcc<28>K0KzKU<28>O00zcU<28>K4A000<13>000 } gp-zfa-02 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=acosh passes=1 center-mag=1.77636e-015/0/0.1137067 params=0.30352/0.6669/0.45/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000Nkq<48>40mtdl<49>jBVT_R<49>BK9vIV\ <49>`05noG<49>bQEopG } gp-zfa-03 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=zf_ang function=recip passes=1 center-mag=8.88178e-016/-8.88178e-016/0.1055198 params=0.313/0.467/0.35/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000flt<48>DGJQ5zQ5zQ5z<47>F5Xrml<49>SONWsz<2>\ VqzUqzUpyTox<43>7MToWz<6>lTzkTykSyjSxjRw<35>S9dR9cQ8bP7aO6` } gp-zfa-04 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=flip passes=1 center-mag=3.55271e-015/0/0.0746833 params=-0.4121/0.8146/0.325/-2/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000flt<48>DGJQ5zQ5zQ5z<47>F5Xrml<49>SONWsz<2>VqzUq\ zUpyTox<43>7MToWz<6>lTzkTykSyjSxjRw<35>S9dR9cQ8bP7aO6` } gp-zfa-05 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson ; Color map by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=recip passes=1 center-mag=8.4821e-014/-5.63993e-014/0.7408584 params=-0.5543/0.7887999999999999/0.425/-1/2/125 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zW0<93>d50d50d50d50d50d50<24>d50GGz<123>00O000<3>000 } gp-zfa-06 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson ; Color map by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=sin passes=1 center-mag=1.28507/-1.20664/3.908693 params=-0.923/-0.31/1.5/-1/2/125 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } gp-zfa-07 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=cotan passes=1 center-mag=-2.22045e-016/0/0.6666667/1/-7.5 params=-0.673424/0.47981853/0.35/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000flt<48>DGJQ5zQ5zQ5z<47>F5Xrml<49>SONWsz\ <2>VqzUqzUpyTox<43>7MToWz<6>lTzkTykSyjSxjRw<35>\ S9dR9cQ8bP7aO6` } gp-zfa-08 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=cotan passes=1 center-mag=0.851446/0.841937/5.464481/1/-7.5 params=-0.673424/0.47981853/0.35/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000flt<48>DGJQ5zQ5zQ5z<47>F5Xrml<49>SONWsz\ <2>VqzUqzUpyTox<43>7MToWz<6>lTzkTykSyjSxjRw<35>\ S9dR9cQ8bP7aO6` } gp-zfa-09 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=trunc passes=1 center-mag=8.88178e-016/-8.88178e-016/0.1936376 params=0.18331585/0.74188421/0.4/-1/3/85 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000sVb<67>T02S01S01R00R00<10>M00Wse<68>0P20P20O\ 10O00N0<10>0I0Yes<80>16M16M05L04K04K } gp-zfa-10 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=trunc passes=1 center-mag=-8.88178e-016/0/0.2469868 params=-0.5242553/-0.6793979999999999/0.4/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000flt<48>DGJQ5zQ5zQ5z<47>F5Xrml<49>SONWsz<2>\ VqzUqzUpyTox<43>7MToWz<6>lTzkTykSyjSxjRw<35>S9dR9cQ8bP7aO6` } gp-zfa-11 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson ; Color map by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=round passes=1 center-mag=4.44089e-015/-3.55271e-015/0.08693934 params=-0.6734253/0.47981853/0.75/-1/2/125 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000zW0<93>d50d50d50d50d50d50<24>d50GGz\ <123>00O000<3>000 } gp-zfa-12 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=floor passes=1 center-mag=3.55271e-015/-1.42109e-014/0.01182375/1/29.999 params=0.271/0.005/0.55/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000zkg<48>Y60xzi<49>PT0zjp<49>Y0Dhpz<49>0F_ztb<50>YP0 } gp-zfa-13 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson ; Color map by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=floor passes=1 center-mag=8.88178e-016/-1.11022e-016/1.675957/1/2.499 params=0.2963824/0.4832529/0.85/-1/2/125 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000GGz<123>00Ozzz<123>OOO000<3>000 } -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 21, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RParracho Subject: (fractint) Runge pars Date: 23 May 1998 22:26:59 EDT Mr. Carlson Strands was very clean and pleasing to the eye. just a quickie question. Do you make your maps from scratch every time? Some background on the formula: Fashioned after Runge_Kutta method for solving differential equations numerically If you change the step size to .1 you will get an approximate solution to f'(x)=f(x+y)+c This formula relies on setting the step size large enough to make the solution unstable The number of iterations is critical to reproducing an image With these in mind I reloaded my Square_Runge par and some quick corrections are needed. you must see it at 256 color. Sorry its much better in SF5 (why doesn't save my video mode?) you must set the iterations to 150. (doesn't save my iteration count either) I'll try to make this par come out right. Cos_Runge { ; RSP 23MAY98 iterations was at 256 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf010.frm formulaname=runge01 function=cos passes=t center-mag=-4.52524/0.0161419/4.041667 params=3/64 float=y maxiter=75 inside=zmag periodicity=0 video=sf5 colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555888BBBeL0HH\ H<4>___ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzLLLLLzLzLLz\ zzLLzLzzzLzzz00z<47>0hz0hy0iw<28>0y20z00z0<30>0X01X03Y0<28>xy0zz0zy0<43>\ z00000000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) QUICKIE PAR AND FRM Date: 23 May 1998 23:06:04 -0500 (CDT) Hi R Parracho (what does the R stand for?), These formulas produce some very interesting images! I've just barely started playing with them, but I thought I'd share some results so far. In each of the three pars below I've zoomed into one of the images produced by your pars (using different bailout criteria and colormaps, but using your formulas unchanged). Note: The small circle at the center of the spiral in the image produced by the pc_strange_halley par will disappear if the line .001<=|f|} in the rsp_3170 formula is changed to .00000001<=|f|} However, this will also change the size of the elements in the image. Paul Carlson pc_cosmic_net { ; Paul W. Carlson, 5-23-98 ; t= 0:09:38.80, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rp.par formulaname=rsp_5010 passes=b corners=-0.076373041/0.077626959/0.38998869/0.50548869 params=3.5/0/8/0 float=y maxiter=256 fillcolor=1 symmetry=none periodicity=0 colors=000Vzz<60>0CCO00<61>z88z88y88<60>O000CC<60>Vzz000<3>000 } pc_snails { ; Paul W. Carlson, 5-23-98 ; t= 0:10:41.09, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rp.par formulaname=rsp_5010 passes=1 center-mag=2.84623/0/28.91794/1/-90 params=2/0/4/0 float=y maxiter=256 outside=atan periodicity=0 colors=z88<61>O000CC<59>UxxVyyVzzVzz<61>0CCO00<60>z88000<3>000 } pc_strange_halley { ; Paul W. Carlson, 5-23-98 ; t= 0:07:50.54, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rp.par formulaname=rsp_3170 passes=t center-mag=-0.54033082742102470/-0.72779176998752200/2937.572\ /1/-174.999 params=1/0 float=y maxiter=252 outside=atan periodicity=0 colors=Vzz<5>UyyUxxUxxTwwTww<114>0GGO00<123>z88000<3>000 } frm:rsp_3170 { ;RSP 23MAY98 z=c=pixel: ;P1 IS NORMALLY 1 f=2.5*z*z*z-1.5*z, g=7.5*z*z-1.5, h=15*z, z=z-p1*f/(g-(h*(c-z)^2)/(2*g)), .001<=|f|} frm:rsp_5010 { ;RSP 23MAY98 ;P1 IS ZOOM OUT CANT BE ZERO ;P2 IS BAILOUT VALUE z=c=p1*pixel: f=1/tanh(z), g=log(sinh(z)), z=z-f/g, |f|<=p2} Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Runge pars Date: 23 May 1998 23:19:22 -0500 (CDT) >Mr. Carlson >Strands was very clean and pleasing to the eye. >just a quickie question. Do you make your maps from scratch every time? No, I very seldom make a colormap from scratch. Most of the colormaps I use I made years ago. The rendering methods I usually use are designed to color the images automatically using these colormaps. > you must see it at 256 color. Sorry its much better in SF5 (why >doesn't save my video mode?) > > you must set the iterations to 150. (doesn't save my iteration count >either) Your par has both the iterations and the video mode in it (but the iterations is set to 75, not 150): >Cos_Runge { ; RSP 23MAY98 iterations was at 256 > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf010.frm formulaname=runge01 > function=cos passes=t center-mag=-4.52524/0.0161419/4.041667 > params=3/64 float=y maxiter=75 inside=zmag periodicity=0 video=sf5 ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) PAR: Carlson frm pars Date: 23 May 1998 23:33:49 -0500 (CDT) Gedeon, Beutiful images! gp-zfa-09, 12, and 08 are my favorites, in that order. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil DiGiorgi" Subject: (fractint) PAR a few more Date: 24 May 1998 00:39:02 -0400 Just a few more pars using the HC_Grav formula I posted yesterday... Phil D. phild@iinc.com pdhcg211 { ; t= 0:04:54.95 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 20, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-HC_Grav function=recip/abs/acosh/sqr passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=1.5/0.5/1.25/0/0.4/0.4 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=610yli<8>x_KwYHwXG<11>pG4pE3oE3<32>G40000<9>11111\ 1111222333444444<3>AAABBBDDDFFF<3>PPPSSSWWWZZZ<3>oo\ otttzzzzzz000<13>000<13>ycwyli<10>vWF<14>kF3jD2iD2<23>N60M6\ 0K50I50<2>A30720310000<10>000111111222333<2>666777999BBB<3\ >LLLOOOSSS<2>dddhhhnnnsssyyymmmhhheeeaaa<5>PPPNNNMMM\ <2>HHHFFFEEEDDD<4>666555444333222111<3>000kkk cyclerange=1/252 } pdhcg225 { ; t= 0:40:30.79 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 24, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav function=sin/sqrt/acos/ident passes=t center-mag=8.88178e-016/0/0.5732587 params=1.38/0/0.2/0.17/0.03/0.1 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000mrz<3>lqxlpxkpwkowkov<13>fhnfgmeglefkdfk<10>`_b_Za_Y`ZX\ _ZXZ<17>QJIPIIPHGPIHcmc<61>0AAzwn<3>yumxulxulxtkwtk<16>ojboibn\ iamh`<8>haWgaVg`Uf_TeZT<2>dXRcWQbVPaVOaUO<11>TJETJDTJEzmm\ <3>yllxkkxkkxkjwjj<16>obaobana`m`_<8>hWVgVUgVTfUSeTS<2>dSQcRP\ bQOaPNaPN<11>TGDTGCTGD000000kkk cyclerange=1/252 } pdhcg228 { ; t= 0:06:19.09 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 19, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-HC_Grav function=recip/abs/acosh/cos passes=t center-mag=-2.22045e-016/2.22045e-016/0.8912656/1/-90 params=1.39/0.45/0.95/0/0.45/0.24 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=A85zzz<61>POMc0K<14>X0GW0GV0FU0FU0E<13>L0BL0AK0AJ0\ 9I09<5>E06D06C06B05B05A04<9>200100000000000wwk<4>wwfvvdwwc<25\ >fV8fU6eT5eS3dR2cP0<19>WD3WD3VC3UB4VC4KKz<32>A0TA0SA0S<23\ >A0BA0AA0AA0A011011011 cyclerange=1/252 } pdhcg229 { ; t= 0:04:53.36 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 19, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-HC_Grav function=recip/abs/acosh/cos passes=t center-mag=-2.22045e-016/2.22045e-016/0.8912656/1/-90 params=0.98/0.78/0.95/0/0.375/0.24 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=610yli<8>x_KwYHwXG<11>pG4pE3oE3<32>G40000<10>111111222333\ 444444<3>AAABBBDDDFFF<3>PPPSSSWWWZZZ<3>oootttzzzzzz000<13>00\ 0<13>ycwyli<9>vYIvWFuVE<13>kF3jD2iD2<23>N60M60K50<3>A30720310000<\ 10>000111111222333<2>666777999BBB<3>LLLOOOSSS<2>dddhhhnnnsssyyy\ mmmhhheeeaaa<5>PPPNNNMMM<2>HHHFFFEEEDDD<3>777666555444333<4\ >000zonznk cyclerange=1/252 } pdhcg230 { ; t= 0:07:22.75 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 24, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav function=recip/abs/acosh/cos passes=t center-mag=-2.22045e-016/2.22045e-016/0.8912656/1/-90 params=0.7/0.6/0.5/0/0.45/0.3 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000C00<3>C00D11D11E22E22<3>G55H65I76J77J88<10>VLJWMLXNMY\ PNZQO`RQ<8>mebnfdphfrjg<2>wpmunkslipif<2>gZXcVU`RQXNM<4>B00C00ywt\ <3>wuswurwurvtqvtq<19>jhfihfhgegfdgfd<20>RQQQQPPPOOONNNNMMMLLLKK\ KKKJKKKqpy<3>onwonwnmwmmv<5>jisihshhrggqgfq<23>MN`LM_KLZJKYIJYGIX\ <13>14K03K03KC00<3>C00D11D11E22E22<3>G55H65I76J77J88<10>VLJWMLX\ NMYPNZQO`RQ<8>mebnfdphfrjg<2>wpmunkslipif<2>gZXcVU`RQXNM<4>B00C000\ 00000000 cyclerange=1/252 orbitdelay=6 } pdhcg231 { ; t= 0:15:01.11 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 18, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-HC_Grav function=atanh/ident/atanh/abs passes=t center-mag=-4.44089e-016/-4.44089e-016/0.4986667/1/90 params=0.9399999999999999/0/0.1/0/0.3/0.3 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 outside=summ logmode=fly periodicity=0 colors=610bB2<16>N60M60K50I50<2>A30720310000<10>000111111222333<2>666\ 777999BBB<3>LLLOOOSSS<2>dddhhhnnnsssyyymmmhhheeeaaa<5>PPPNNNMM\ M<2>HHHFFFEEEDDD<4>666555444333222111<3>000kkkyli<8>x_KwYHwXG<11>\ pG4pE3oE3<33>F40E40D40C40B30A30<6>111<2>444444666<2>AAABBBDDDFFF\ <3>PPPSSSWWWZZZ<4>ttt424424000<13>000<9>gSekVjnZj<2>yli<10>vWF<14>k\ F3jD2iD2<5>cB2 cyclerange=1/252 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) Calc method Date: 24 May 1998 02:35:38 -0400 It could... Reverse discrimination gives minorities special preference = over those who may be more qualified, or may not. However, they still = get 'special' preference imposed by the government, and if you don't = like affirmative action, this could be your campaign slogan, or = whatever. Pete // > // > civil rights are not special rights // > // =20 // > // What the heck does this mean exactly? // >=20 // > Umm... you know what affirmative action is? // =20 // Actually it's got nothing to do with affirmitive action. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 24 May 1998 12:13:39 +0100 Shauna Jones wrote: >> It even worked 1303 days - holidays included - :-). > >Isn't there some kind of law against making computers >work on holidays? Nope, hahaha :-) But when it breaks down, I guess it's a bit overworked. :-) Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 24 May 1998 12:13:16 +0100 Shauna Jones wrote: >Random Thought for this Nanosecond >And God said: E = /mv2 - Ze2/r, and there was light! Hmmm..... I know different versions, including: And God said: div D = (rho) rot E = dB/dt div B = 0 rot H = dD/dt + i d(rho)/dt + div i = 0 where i,D,E,B,H are vectors the following could be added: D = (epsilon) E B = (mu) H F = (rho) ( E + v x B) v,F vectors, x being the symbol for external vector multiplication etc. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Runge pars Date: 24 May 1998 07:13:18 -0500 RParracho wrote: > > Mr. Carlson > Strands was very clean and pleasing to the eye. > you must see it at 256 color. Sorry its much better in SF5 (why doesn't save > my video mode?) If you have an sstools.ini file in your Fractint folder, then in the [FRACTINT] section add this line video=sf5 . Then, whenever you enter the program the video mode will automatically load for you. If you don't have an sstools.file then either create one using the edit command in DOS or WordPad in WIndows and type [FRACTINT} on line one and video=sf5 on line two. You can add other lines to this section later, if you wish, lines telling Fractint where to find files, save, files, and other things that can make life easier while using Fractint. If you have further questions about the sstools.ini file don't hestitate to ask us here. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 24 May 1998 10:02:23 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 23 May 1998 cjc26@cornell.edu wrote: > On Tue, 19 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > > Cliff wrote : > > // >>Speaking of Microsoft's spell checker, try this out: Go into > > // Word, type > > // >>'zzzz' and spell-check it and see what's really on Bill Gates' mind. > > > > The dutch version of the ms spell checker delivered with office 97 dutch > > does the same. > > That's really weird. It must be a worldwide conspiracy. ;) s, x, and z all correspond to the same soundex digit. That'd be true in Dutch as well as English, I think. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) No Fotn...you can't stand it? Try this... Date: 24 May 1998 10:23:43 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 23 May 1998, davides wrote: > Way off topic - but this day as I returned to attempt some wordie > processing stuff, I found that for no reason one project refused to open > w/WP8 claiming something about WP 6.0/6.1. In a way I can sympathize with > the man who "lost" it, but I am not sure smashing my monitor would help in > retrieving about a year's worth of work. Instead it is time to smile and > figure out what happened, why, and prevent a recurrance. I doubt you'll figure out why. > Explanations have > not yet surfaced, but I did find a work around to retrieve the info... Thank goodness! I should point out that when one works with a text editor and a batch text-formatting system, this never happens, because the text is very simple from the text-editor's point of view, and any crash cases get worked out in the first couple of months. If you crash the batch formatter, you can still edit the text document to work around the bug. Plus, you get nicer documents with less effort (if the batch formater is LaTeX or Scribe). Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: (fractint) Problem with DOS/Fractint - Help! Date: 24 May 1998 08:31:23 -0700 Hi, all- Yesterday my keyboard croaked, so we bought a new one. It's a Microsoft Natural Keyboard - a little different from the last one, but it is a Microsoft product and should work in Windows and MS-DOS without any problem. But there is a problem. When I am in Fractint, I can't rotate my zoom box. Ctrl pad + and Ctrl pad - have no effect at all. I can zoom in, and I can skew, squash and stretch, but I can't rotate. Also, I can't run Partobat. When I key "partobat" at the d:\fractint prompt, it says "sorting . . ." and then freezes. My keyboard freezes, too. Even Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work, I have to turn off the computer and turn it back on again. Needless to say, I'm frustrated! Any and all suggestions will be appreciated! When I can get it too work right again, I'll post another formula and new pars and new colormaps. So please toss suggestions my way! Thanks, Linda http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/ (last update 4/29/98) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519 (last update 5/22/98) http://www.toptown.com/innercircle/gumbycat/index.html (last update 3/20/98) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) No Fotn...you can't stand it? Try this... Date: 24 May 1998 11:54:27 -0400 At 10:23 AM 5/24/1998 -0400, you wrote: Instead it is time to smile and figure out what happened, why, and prevent a recurrance. > >I doubt you'll figure out why. ah, ye of little faith. I already have, and also how to prevent a recurrance of same. :) (snipped) >Thank goodness! (yes indeedy. It would have been somewhat depressing to have that much work have to be redone. But that also keeps me occupied and out of bars etc - along with fractint. But enuff of off topic stuff, maybe this afternoon I can find time to make a fractal.) davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Problem with DOS/Fractint - Help! Date: 24 May 1998 12:00:07 -0400 At 08:31 AM 5/24/1998 -0700, you wrote: >Hi, all- > >Yesterday my keyboard croaked, so we bought a new one. First things first I should think. Can you borrow another MS compatible keyboard, plug it in, and try it? If it works fine, then the problem would be a faulty keyboard (needs to be returned). If the borrowed one has the same problems, then something else needs to be done... davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Runge pars Date: 24 May 1998 18:29:45 +0100 Bob wrote: .... >don't have an sstools.file then either create one using the edit command >in DOS or WordPad in WIndows and type [FRACTINT} on line one and >video=sf5 on line two. You can add other lines to this section later, if ....... [FRACTINT} must of course be [FRACTINT] Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) No Fotn...you can't stand it? Try this... Date: 24 May 1998 18:31:38 +0100 Kragen wrote > ... > I beg your pardon? Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) No Fotn...you can't stand it? Try this... Date: 24 May 1998 13:01:03 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 24 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > Kragen wrote > > > ... > > I beg your pardon? Jihad means exerting one's utmost power contending with an object of disapprobation, and this is of three kinds, namely, (1) with a visible enemy, (2) with Satan, and (3) with one's self. I was warning readers that what was enclosed within the jihad and end-jihad tags constituted an effort in a jihad -- for better software and use of computers. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method Date: 24 May 1998 13:01:34 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 24 May 1998, Kragen wrote: > s, x, and z all correspond to the same soundex digit. That'd be true > in Dutch as well as English, I think. What's a 'soundex digit'? Cliff Crawford | Windows NT crashed. http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ | I am the Blue Screen of Death. | No one hears your screams. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) PAR: more Carlson frm pars Date: 24 May 1998 13:42:32 -0400 Paul, Of course it is difficult to pick one favorite from so many excellent formulas, if I were pressed to do so I would pick Zf_Ang. For one thing, it appears to be easier here to find workable julia coordinates, for another, it has that versatile user definable function, which works wonders even with, or I am tempted to say especially with, such unexpected functions as trunc, round, ceil, and floor. Great formula. I hope that the pars below live up to it. Gedeon ;Posted 5/24/98 gp-zfa-14 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=ceil passes=1 center-mag=0.841957/0.861619/3.875969 params=-0.6734278/0.479818/0.2/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000ito<49>52Yubn<49>F0ZunV<49>3I0jmt<49>\ V0Mrs_<40>b72b61a40a30`20`10<3>Z00 } gp-zfa-15 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=asin passes=1 center-mag=0/1.66533e-016/0.7183908/1/-12.5 params=0.1378/-0.642268/0.4/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000flt<48>DGJQ5zQ5zQ5z<47>F5Xrml<49>SONWsz<2>VqzUq\ zUpyTox<43>7MToWz<6>lTzkTykSyjSxjRw<35>S9dR9cQ8bP7aO6` } gp-zfa-16 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=cabs passes=1 center-mag=0/1.11022e-016/0.7183908/1/-22.499 params=0.3806747/-0.684682/0.4/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000flt<48>DGJQ5zQ5zQ5z<47>F5Xznl<49>R40Wsz\ <2>VqzUqzUpyTox<43>7MToWz<6>lTzkTykSyjSxjRw<35>\ S9dR9cQ8bP7aO6` } gp-zfa-17 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson ; Color map by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=trunc passes=1 center-mag=-4.44089e-016/8.32667e-017/2.876324/1/-22.499 params=0.3806747/-0.684682/0.7/-1/2/125 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=0J0z88<123>O00zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } gp-zfa-18 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=ceil passes=1 center-mag=-4.44089e-016/4.44089e-016/1.007569 params=0.2599/-0.0015855/0.6/-1/3/85 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000zii<82>T00nzl<83>3P0goz<84>0BR } gp-zfa-19 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 23, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=ceil passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=-0.528746/-0.6675424599999999/0.7/-1/3/85 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000uip<72>A1U90U80U80T<6>30Rhum<72>1Ea0Ea0Da0Da\ <7>08_ujl<74>AI5AI49I48H4<6>4E4 } gp-zfa-20 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=floor passes=1 center-mag=-1.11022e-016/8.32667e-017/3.205128 params=-0.128746/-0.8775424599999999/0.6/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=0002Wz<49>00WzKu<49>N09NcL<49>5E3zPX<49>M00mm0<49>K60 } gp-zfa-21 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=ceil passes=1 center-mag=-1.11022e-016/8.32667e-017/3.205128 params=-0.025746/-0.8975424/0.6/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000flt<48>DGJQ5zQ5zQ5z<47>F5Xznl<49>R40Wsz\ <2>VqzUqzUpyTox<43>7MToWz<6>lTzkTykSyjSxjRw<35>S9dR9cQ8bP7aO6` } gp-zfa-22 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=ceil passes=1 center-mag=-1.11022e-016/5.55112e-017/3.205128/1/9.999 params=-0.393962/-0.161297/0.4/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000ghA<48>XK8Hek<38>24h23h22h22h22h<6>22gnZf<49>\ d5PNcL<49>5E3pCP<26>d2Bd2Ac2Ac29b29<12>Y22X22X22W22W22V22V22hhA } gp-zfa-23 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=ceil passes=1 center-mag=-8.32667e-017/8.32667e-017/3.582782/1/10 params=0.393962/-0.861297/0.7/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000Tlp<34>1U_1U_0TZ0TZ0SY<9>0NUokS<35>VQ1UQ1UP0TP0TO0\ <9>NI0Noe<34>1UL0UK0TK0SJ<11>0LBpZQ<34>_D1ZD1ZC0YC0YB0<10>\ S40oVf<37>X1JW1JW0IV0IV0H<8>Q0B } gp-zfa-24 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=floor passes=1 center-mag=-1.11022e-016/1.11022e-016/4.016572/1/9.999 params=-0.0834121/-0.961297/0.7/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000ekf<42>71S60S60R<4>50PqUe<36>N2VM1UL0UK0UJ\ 0TI0T<7>B0QqeM<34>GJ1FJ0EI0DH0<5>6D05D05C0<3>590fdk<39>\ V1LU0KU0JU0I<6>R0DnjR<30>bA1a90a70a60<3>_10_00Z00<9>V00 } gp-zfa-25 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=ceil passes=1 center-mag=-6.66134e-016/4.44089e-016/0.9150369/1/-10 params=-0.67342/0.47981/0.6/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=0002Wz<49>00WzKu<49>N09NcL<49>5E3zPX<49>M00mm0<49>K60 } gp-zfa-26 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=trunc passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.09066667 params=-0.20732/0.877/0.4/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=0002Wz<49>00WzKu<49>N09NcL<49>5E3zPX<49>M00mm0<49>K60 } gp-zfa-27 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=trunc passes=1 center-mag=8.88178e-016/4.44089e-015/0.2456034/1/90 params=0.26/0/0.35/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=0005Zz<5>5Wz5Vy5Uy5Ux5Tw<39>33ZzNx<3>zMuyLtyLsxLrwKq\ <41>Q3CQfO<49>8H6zS_<3>zQYyQXyPXxPWwOV<41>P33pp3<49>N93 } gp-zfa-28 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=floor passes=1 center-mag=-1.77636e-015/0/0.08645239/1/90 params=0.09/0.91/0.35/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000TIG<2>UIGUJGVJGWKGXLGYMGZMG`OGaOG<5>lXHnYHq_H\ <2>wdHyfHygIyfH<2>s`Hq_HnYHlXHjVH<3>cQGaOG`OGZMG<3>VJG\ UJGUIGTIGTIGTIGTIG6IF<3>6IF6JF7JF7KF8LF8MF9MF9OFAOF<7>\ H_HI`HKbHKdHMfHNgHMfHKdHKbH<3>FXGEVGEUG<2>BQGAOF9OF9M\ F<3>7JF6JF6IF6IF6IF6IF6IFDCC<3>DCCEDDEDDFEEFEE<5>KJJLKK\ NMM<7>XWWYXXXWW<10>JIIIHHIHH<2>FEEFEEEDDEDDDCC<3>DCCYSI\ <2>YSIYSIZTJ_TJ<2>aWLbWMdYNeYN<2>iaQkcSmdTofUpgV<3>\ xn`ypayqbypa<2>tjYriXpgVofUmdT<3>f_OeYNdYNbWM<3>_TJZTJY\ SIYSIYSIYSIYSIL33<2>L33L33M33N33<4>R33S33U33<8>h33j33l33n\ 33l33j33<8>V33U33S33R33Q33<4>M33L33L33L33<2>L33 } gp-zfa-29 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=trunc passes=1 center-mag=-2.13163e-014/-1.42109e-014/0.04281814/1/90 params=0.09/0.91/0.55/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=56A67B<5>RDJUDKXEM_FNbGO<2>iIRlISmJSpKTqKU<3>\ vLWwLWwMWwMWwMW<3>tLVsKVqKUpKTmJSlIS<3>bGO_FNXEMUDKRDJ\ <6>2691Eo6Fo<4>NFpRGpTGpXGp<4>iHqlHqnHqpHq<2>tHqvHrvH\ rwHrxHrxHr<2>vHrvHrtHq<3>nHqlHqiHq<3>_GqXGpTGpRGp<4>\ 9Fo6Fo1EoDFA<22>zn0<26>DCA06E<7>K9FNAGOAGRAGSBGVBG\ <3>`CHaCHbDHcDHdDH<2>eDHfDHeDHeDH<4>aCH`CHZCHYCHWBGV\ BGSBGRAGOAGNAG<8>06E1D05E08E0CF0EG1IG1LH1PI1RI1\ VJ1XJ2_K2<4>kM2mN2nN3<2>rO3sO3sO3tO3<2>sO3sO3rO3qN3\ <3>kM2iM2fL2dL2<2>XJ2VJ1RI1PI1LH1IG1EG1CF0<2>2D01D0 } gp-zfa-30 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=ceil passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.08912656/1/-4.999 params=0.41777/0.02333/0.25/-1/4/64 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000iO0<61>910SeT<62>3E4qHG<43>Y10X10X10W00W00\ <14>O00DZo<44>0IV0HV0HU0GU0GT0GT<12>0AM } gp-zfa-31 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 24, 1998 ; Formula by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm formulaname=Zf_Ang function=tanh passes=1 center-mag=-9.99201e-016/7.77156e-016/1.449275 params=-0.02222/-0.7173/0.35/-1/5/51 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ colors=000flt<48>DGJQ5zQ5zQ5z<47>F5Xznl<49>R40Wsz\ <2>VqzUqzUpyTox<43>7MToWz<6>lTzkTykSyjSxjRw<35>\ S9dR9cQ8bP7aO6` } -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 23, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: (fractintCODE) Subject line protocol Date: 24 May 1998 13:54:16 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 20 May 1998, Angela Wilczynski wrote: > I find it simple to sort my email by hand.....has never taken more than 10 > mins..... I get about 150 messages per day. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mars Magus Subject: (fractint) The Search for O Date: 24 May 1998 14:43:00 EDT Greetings all, Time to stop lurking :) Thanks everyone for making this list so fast and fulsome that I had to juggle mailboxes to read all this stuff ;) Thanks to Tim for moderating, and let's split that list.. but who has the space to host it? I don't know if I ever saw a real solid agenda on that. Enough filibuster... Ladies and gents... where in fractality can I build beauties like the stuff our silent friend O comes up with? I've been doing this for art a looong time (on woefully underpowered machines, but!!) and I've never seen anything like his kimono, or his nharmonic patterns and I am just amazed. Could someone either post or point me to those pars? Thanks much, Chris Bielanski p.s. See the O Gallery at http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/oooo.html (thanks Noel!) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mars Magus Subject: Re: (fractint) Problem with DOS/Fractint - Help! Date: 24 May 1998 14:52:45 EDT In a message dated 98-05-24 14:34:17 EDT, you write: > When I am in Fractint, I can't rotate my zoom box. Ctrl pad + and Ctrl > pad - have no effect at all. I can zoom in, and I can skew, squash and > stretch, but I can't rotate. > > Also, I can't run Partobat. When I key "partobat" at the d:\fractint > prompt, it says "sorting . . ." and then freezes. My keyboard freezes, > too. Even Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work, I have to turn off the computer > and turn it back on again. Rotating your zoom box can be done with your mouse. If you have your mouse support set up to run outside of 95 (I highly reccomend it for speeding up the colormap creation process) you can rotate the box using . The PARTOBAT problem may be simple as making sure your drives are free of errors and defragged. Might be something freaky like an instruction code in the sort function that your system doesn't appreciacte (?) Chris Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Runge pars Date: 24 May 1998 14:00:17 -0500 Christian Strik wrote: > > > [FRACTINT} must of course be [FRACTINT] > But, if you had WinFract, you would have to type in [WINFRACT}, so sstools.ini would know which program it's being linked to. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) The Search for O Date: 24 May 1998 14:15:01 -0500 Mars Magus wrote: > > > Ladies and gents... where in fractality can I build beauties like the stuff > our silent friend O comes up with? I've been doing this for art a looong time > (on woefully underpowered machines, but!!) and I've never seen anything like > his kimono, or his nharmonic patterns and I am just amazed. Could someone > either post or point me to those pars? I've only seen his beautiful work on the alt.binaries.pictures.fractals newsgroup. I think his e-mail address is at calweb or something close to that. Why not post a message to him on the newsgroup either directly to it if you have access, or via DejaNews if you don't. He has never posted parameter files, just the .gif images, but maybe he'll send them to you. The way to get parameter files in a case such as yours would be to download the image to your Fractint folder, load the image into Fractint, tap the "b" key and hit "enter" to save the image's parameter file to disk. Works every time except if the artist processed his image in a graphics program after creating it in Fractint. In that case all the Fractint info in the .gif image would be stripped and Fractint would not recognize it as a Fractint image when you load it into the program. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) The Search for O Date: 24 May 1998 14:19:56 -0500 Mars Magus wrote: > I'm not going to repeat all that was said in the message I sent out a few minutes ago. But I saw the URL at the bottom of your message after I sent my previous message. I went over to O's page at the Spanky site and saw his e-mail address listed as oooo@calweb.com. You can also save his images to the Fractint folder from the Spanky site and follow the instructions I wrote in my previous message to create parameter files from them. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) Back on w/new computer Date: 24 May 1998 12:45:02 -0700 >Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 12:35:00 -0700 >To: fractint.xmission.com >From: Ray Montgomery >Subject: Back on w/new computer > > I've been incommunicado for about three days now while I have been installing and setting-up my new rig. >It is and has been sensational. Been toying with Fractint most of the afternoon and it exceeds my most extreme hopes. > Anyway, I'm glad to be back. I missed keeping up with all that was going on. (Not keeping up - following!) > > Ray Montgomery Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jacco Burger" Subject: (fractint) homepage and chatting Date: 24 May 1998 21:37:46 +0200 I became a member of this list shortly after the list started, in August 1997. But at some point I found my mailbox full of unread fractint-messages....... so I unsubsribed, and since then I read the fractint digest files at ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/fractint/ whenever I have time, so at least I have a vague notion of what is going on. Whenever I have something I would like to share with you, or to announce or ask I just subscribe for the occasion. Occasion no. 1: I recently uploaded a re-designed version of my homepage, with some new and previously unpublished fractal images. The URL hasn't changed, it still is http://wwwserv.caiw.nl/~jaccobu/index.htm . Those of you who enjoy visiting my homepage, and who have a website as well, I would like to ask very politely and humbly to consider adding a link to my homepage! Thanks in advance. I thouroughly tested all of my pages, but if anyone experiences a problem with viewing, please let me know. Occasion no 2: I am curious about this fractal chatting on MIRC and ICQ. Could anyone give more specific instructions on how to join those fractalchats? I have only a little bit of ICQ experience, and I recently downloaded and installed MIRC, so I am quite a newbie in this respect. As for MIRC I remember somebody mentioned to login to the server us.undernet.org, but I noticed there are many us.undernet servers all over the US, and I couldn't login to any of them from here (Netherlands, Europe that is). Can anybody tell me what to do exactly? Thanks in advance! By the way, there is a world-clock on URL http://www.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/tt/nos/page/777 . This is where anyone who wants to join the next chat can check when it starts at local time. Bye! Jacco Burger from Naaldwijk, The Netherlands (small town, small country, small planet) e-mail Jacco.Burger@kabelfoon.nl ICQ 5848993 visit my fractal gallery at http://wwwserv.caiw.nl/~jaccobu/index.htm P.S.: I resubsribed one hour ago and in the mean time I received 40 messages from the mailinglist..... this is more than I receive at work in a whole day, and at least they pay me there.... I hate to say this but I will be glad to unsubscribe again. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) homepage and chatting Date: 24 May 1998 17:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Try going to http://www.undernet.org/ You can find a list of servers there. I looked for servers near where you are and here's what I found: diemen.nl.eu.undernet.org ports 6660-6669 and 7000 antwerpen.be.eu.undernet.org ports 6660-6669 goettingen.de.eu.undernet.org ports 4400, 6660-7002 regensburg.de.eu.undernet.org ports 6666, 6667, and 7000 Hope this helps! Cliff Crawford | Windows NT crashed. http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ | I am the Blue Screen of Death. | No one hears your screams. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 24 May 1998 11:49:41 -1000 On 24 May 98 at 12:13, Christian Strik wrote: > Shauna Jones wrote: > > >Random Thought for this Nanosecond > >And God said: E = /mv2 - Ze2/r, and there was light! > > Hmmm..... I know different versions, including: > > And God said: > > div D = (rho) > rot E = dB/dt > div B = 0 > rot H = dD/dt + i > d(rho)/dt + div i = 0 > > where i,D,E,B,H are vectors > > the following could be added: > > D = (epsilon) E > B = (mu) H > F = (rho) ( E + v x B) > > v,F vectors, x being the symbol for external vector multiplication Whew! A little deep for me. My highest mathematical achievement was teaching myself topology while in high school. Since I was an English major, I'll stick with the "Let there be light!" formulization. Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond to read the next message Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)PAR:more snails Date: 24 May 1998 18:07:08 EDT Hi Did someone say snails? 1 par and then just colors. Steve =========================================================== 004b-snails-rcd2 { ; (c) Steve Karl May 24, 1998 t= 0:06:13.43 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 reset=1960 type=mandellambda passes=t center-mag=+0.98216655850000000/+0.50150701408510630/12100.98/-2.1991/27\ 0 params=0.458/-0.1 float=y decomp=256 colors=kcPkcP<5>zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<6>AAK<3>ALQAOSARUBUWBXY<6>DqlDtnCq\ l<6>7Ta<6>L4R<8>VHI<7>zH0<8>SDF<3>N3JL0KL1KM2KN3KO4JR9I<9>rhWpgT<14>QGLO\ ELOEL<41>Z`P<5>svcsvcsvcsvc<8>cZPaWN_UMYSKXQKWNJUMHSJF<6>EAb<6>7Nu5Px5Nu\ <5>A5c<2>D6WE7UG8SH9QJANKBLMDKNFK<4>YSX_VZ`Y`<4>jlolorlpr<6>a_V_YSYWPWUM\ VRI<3>OI5<8>iaN orbitdelay=6 } 004b-snails-rc1 { ; (c) Steve Karl May 24, 1998 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 colors=000<116>pruwwztuxwwzsuxvvyrtwuvyrtvtuxqsvsuxprurtworurtvnqtqsvmqs\ prumpsorulprnqtkormqsjoqmpshnqlprjoqlprinpkoqhmojoqhmoinphlnhmogkmhmogjl\ hlnfikgkmfhkgjlegjfikefifhkdehegjddgeficcgdehcbfddgbaeccgb`dcbfa_cbaeaZc\ b`d`Yba_c`XaaZc_W``Yb_V_`XaZU__W`ZTZ_V_YSYZU_YRXZTZXQWYSYXPVYRXWOVXQWWNU\ XPVVMTWOVVLSWNUUKRVMTUJRVLSTIQUKRTHPUJRSGOTIQSFNTHPRENSGORDMSFNQCLRENQBK\ RDMPAJQCLP9JQBKO8IPAJO7HP9JN6GO8IO7HJ6FN6GE7DJ6FC7CE7D78A97B298589466233 } 004b-snails-rc2 { ; (c) Steve Karl May 24, 1998 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 colors=cggdfh<6>c_ecZecZecZd<88>VK3VK3VL4<92>uyjuyjuyjuyjtxj<55>bhg } 004b-snails-rc3 { ; (c) Steve Karl May 24, 1998 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 colors=zzz<2>zzzzzyzyyyyxyyx<110>_RB_RB_RC<134>zzz } ============================================================================= Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)BUG? Date: 24 May 1998 18:07:12 EDT Hello, If I press "L" by accident { when not in color edit mode } everything Locks up. ctrl+alt+del is the only option at this point...or so it seems. Has anyone encountered this and if so is there an other way out? Does L have some signifigance I'm not aware of? Thanks...any and all comments welcome. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)saving colors only to parfile? Date: 24 May 1998 18:07:13 EDT Greetings, I've figured out how to cut the parameters other than colors using note pad but is there a way to just save colors to a par while in fractint? Thanks, Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint)BUG? Date: 24 May 1998 17:20:42 -0600 Steve (SKarl52884@aol.com) asked: > If I press "L" by accident { when not in color edit mode } everything > Locks up. ctrl+alt+del is the only option at this point...or so it seems. > Has anyone encountered this and if so is there an other way out? > Does L have some signifigance I'm not aware of? L invokes the browser mode which shows in frames on the screen any subimages of the current image. There are some refinements to the browser in the current developer version that might have fixed the problem you are seeing. The developers Jonathan Osuch and Robin Bussell would be interested in your problem but would need more details. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: homepage and chatting Date: 24 May 1998 17:30:23 -0500 cjc26@cornell.edu wrote: > > Try going to http://www.undernet.org/ You can find a list of servers > there. I looked for servers near where you are and here's what I found: > > diemen.nl.eu.undernet.org ports 6660-6669 and 7000 > antwerpen.be.eu.undernet.org ports 6660-6669 > goettingen.de.eu.undernet.org ports 4400, 6660-7002 > regensburg.de.eu.undernet.org ports 6666, 6667, and 7000 > Talk about coincidences. I went over to the Undernet a while ago and joined the chat-world chatroom. About 10 mins. later Jacco signed in and I recognized his name from the posting he made to this list. Out of the thousands of chatrooms that exist and all the orgs too, he and I happened to be at the same place at the same time! Anyway, I DCC'd him and held a private chat with him. Told him how to add #fractals to his list of channels on the Undernet server that he was using. Told him also that we're slated to be chatting at 4 p.m. Monday (his time--he lives in Holland). He said he'll be home from work at about 5:30 p.m. (his time) and will try to join us. I also tried to talk him out of unsubscribing from the list. Hope I'm successful. Told him to read only the messages he wants to and delete the rest, if there was too much for him to read. I hope to be on the Undernet tomorrow at 7 a.m. Wizzle Daylight Time. Then we'll talk shop. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint)BUG? Date: 24 May 1998 18:32:50 EDT In a message dated 98-05-24 18:22:23 EDT, you write: << Steve (SKarl52884@aol.com) asked: > If I press "L" by accident { when not in color edit mode } everything > Locks up. ctrl+alt+del is the only option at this point...or so it seems. > Has anyone encountered this and if so is there an other way out? > Does L have some signifigance I'm not aware of? L invokes the browser mode which shows in frames on the screen any subimages of the current image. There are some refinements to the browser in the current developer version that might have fixed the problem you are seeing. The developers Jonathan Osuch and Robin Bussell would be interested in your problem but would need more details. Tim >> Thanks Tim... the most detailed I can get beyond this is that I've observed the same lock up on two machines....mine ....a pentium 100 and a friends... a pentium2 266. both using 19.6. It happens on any and all frms appearently and is consistent. If Mr. Osuch or Bussell would like to ask more or have me attempt other tasks in relation to this problem on either or both machines, they're welcome to write me off the list with specific requests or instructions. Sincerely, Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint)BUG? Date: 24 May 1998 17:34:27 -0500 SKarl52884 wrote: > > Hello, > If I press "L" by accident { when not in color edit mode } everything > Locks up. ctrl+alt+del is the only option at this point...or so it seems. > Has anyone encountered this and if so is there an other way out? No. But if I press "L" by accident I get a message telling me that Fractint can't find anything. Usually happens when I meant to hit + to cycle the colors and then "L" to load a color.map, I do it so hurriedly that I just hit the "L" key. The only way out is to be more careful. 8-) Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint)saving colors only to parfile? Date: 24 May 1998 17:35:42 -0500 SKarl52884 wrote: > > Greetings, > I've figured out how to cut the parameters other than colors using note pad > but is there a way to just save colors to a par while in fractint? Why not just save the colormap? Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint)saving colors only to parfile? Date: 24 May 1998 18:43:01 EDT In a message dated 98-05-24 18:38:33 EDT, you write: << Why not just save the colormap? >> Yes I often do... but getting it to the par file then is done always in a text editor? { reference the more snails posting...1 par and 3 recolorings} What I did there is just cut everything but colors. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint)saving colors only to parfile? Date: 24 May 1998 17:52:01 -0500 SKarl52884 wrote: > > In a message dated 98-05-24 18:38:33 EDT, you write: > > << Why not just save the colormap? >> > Yes I often do... but getting it to the par file then is done always in a text > editor? I can't imagine any other way to save the colormap just as a param file right now. Maybe in a later Fractint version. Hitting the "b" key and then "y" for save colors (not the name of the color map) works, but you have to give the param file a name at least and where to save it to. You'll still wind out having to delete all the rest of the param info just have only. Too much work for my taste. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint)saving colors only to parfile? Date: 24 May 1998 18:57:44 EDT In a message dated 98-05-24 18:53:42 EDT, you write: << You'll still wind out having to delete all the rest of the param info just have only. Too much work for my taste. Bob >> Thanks Bob. Got it! I was just trying to save regeneration time when posting or viewing color changes only situations. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) B&W from color? Date: 24 May 1998 17:32:33 -0700 While working on some images, my mind on the image on the screen, I absently hit a wrong key. I have no idea which one, but it was toward the right side and toward the top. It turned the image into a B&W image and nothing I do can seem to change it back to color. Is there a way to change images back and forth between color and B&W? I don't want the B&W image but it would be interesting to know that it could be done - and how to do it. Would appreciate help. Thanks Ray Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) B&W from color? Date: 24 May 1998 21:01:06 EDT Hi Ray, Some of the F keys at the top are presets for color maps. You must have hit one of those. If you have a map that you can load that is an approximation of what you used to have on that image, then reload that color map. { E and then Enter enters color mode, L selects to load map. } F6 at this point will back you out to an other place where you may browse for a different map directory ...say for instance fracxtr ...if you have it. Or you can get it on the Fractint home page...also many cool maps at the Wizzle site {Angela's page} addresses for both below. I'm sure theres more documentation on the presets that are under F3 F4 F5 etc... some of them may be for video modes. I'm not sure. Check the help menue. Steve http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html { fractint} http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractalintro.htm { Angela's page... Wizzle } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) B&W from color? Date: 24 May 1998 21:26:24 -0400 Ray, You probably hit either F6, F7, or F8. These keys are connected with black and white video modes - not maps. To go back to color, hit Shift+F6 for video mode SF6, or Shif>+F7 for video mode SF7, etc. These keys are not for accessing color maps. To load a color map onto an image, hit and to be in color cycling mode, then to load map, hit and select desired map from list, then hit Hitting plus gets you to the palette editing mode. Here you work on the map now on your screen. You do not load new maps in this mode. Gedeon Ray Montgomery wrote: > While working on some images, my mind on the image on the screen, I > absently hit a wrong key. I have no idea which one, but it was toward the > right side and toward the top. It turned the image into a B&W image and > nothing I do can seem to change it back to color. > Is there a way to change images back and forth between color and B&W? I > don't want the B&W image but it would be interesting to know that it could > be done - and how to do it. > Would appreciate help. > > Thanks Ray > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 23, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HWeber8606 Subject: (fractint) Par_Frm - The Fat Man Date: 24 May 1998 23:42:22 EDT Hi, watch the Fat Man with his child. 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t= 0:05:52.57 ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 May 25, 1998 05:20:12 ; Par and Image Copyright 1998 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com or HWeber8606@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=jowe_03_phc_n1 function=sin/sqr passes=1 center-mag=-2.46988/0/1.113067 params=1/2/3/4/1024/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=bof60 outside=real decomp=256 colors=000200<5>_00e00i00<2>y00<5>z00z00y00t00n00i00e00<6>200000I70<3>YF\ 0bI0fJ0jM0nN0rQ0vR0zU0<2>z`0zb0zc0zb0<3>zU0vR0rQ0nN0jM0fJ0bI0<4>I7000022\ 0<5>__0ee0ii0<2>yy0<5>zz0zz0yy0tt0nn0ii0ee0<6>2200004817C49I5CM8GRBJWCM`\ FPeGRjJUnMXrN_xQczTfzUizXkzYnz`kzYizXfzUczT_xQXrNUnMRjJPeGM`FJWCGRBCM89I\ 57C44810800C00I0<4>0e00j00n00r00x00z0<6>0z00z00x00r00n0<5>0M00I00C008008\ 20C80IC0MI0RN0WR0`X0eb0jg0nk0rq0xv0zz<6>0zz0zz0xv0rq0nk0jg0eb0`X0WR0RN0M\ I0IC0C808200400900D00J00P<2>00b00g00m<2>00z<7>00z00v00q00m<2>00Y00T00P00\ J00D00900440D70I80MB0RC0WF0_G0cJ0i<3>R0z<2>Y0z_0z`0z_0zX0zW0zT0zR0y<2>L0\ m } FatMan_5 { ; t= 0:49:31.84 ; 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t= 0:10:13.63 ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 May 25, 1998 05:21:12 ; Par and Image Copyright 1998 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com or HWeber8606@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=jowe_03_phc_n1 function=sin/sinh passes=1 center-mag=-1.87298/0/1.377137/1/-90 params=1/5/0.5/10/1280/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=bof60 outside=real decomp=256 colors=0000070070070070090090090090290590990B7<2>0M70Q70S52V52Z52a52c44g\ 44j44i44e42c22a22`22X22V20T0<2>0M00K00G00F00B0090050020000202909F00I20O2\ 4S47V4B`5Fc7Ig7Kj9OpBStBVxDZzDazFezDayDZvBVrBSn9Oi9Ke7Ga7DZ59V55S42M20F0\ F909202000220770BB0GG0MM0SS0<2>ee0jj0pp0vv0zz0<5>zz0vv0pp0jj0<2>XX0SS0MM\ 0GG0<2>22000000200900F00K00S00T44X77ZBBaFFeIIiOOjSSnVVrZZvaaxeezaaxZZtTT\ p<3>FFa99Z55V22S00M<2>002000200900F00K20S50XB0cG0iK0pQ0vV0z`0zc0zi0zn0zr\ 0zx0<3>za0vX0nT0eO0ZI0SD0K70B20400F009002000000220990FF0KK0SS0XX0aa0ii<2\ >0yy<9>0zz0vv0nn0ii0cc0ZZ<2>0GG099044000000555BBBGGGKKK<3>eeejjjpppvvvyy\ y<5>zzzvvvpppjjj<2>XXXSSSMMMGGG<2>222000<8>000000002002002004<6>005 } frm:JoWe_19_PHC_2 { ; Jo Weber, 8/1996 ; p3 = horizontal resolution: 320, 640, 800, 1024, 1280, 1600... count = (count + 1) * (count != (p3-1)) evenodd = (evenodd == (count == 1)) oddeven = (evenodd == 0) z = c = pixel: t=fn1(z) z = (c^(sqr(t)))*evenodd-c*fn2(t)*oddeven |z|>=0.5 } frm:JoWe_03_PHC_n1 = { ; Jo Weber [100424,35], 8/1996 ; p3 = horizontal resolution: 320, 640, 800, 1024, 1280, 1600... count = (count + 1) * (count != (p3-1)) evenodd = (evenodd == (count == 1)) oddeven = (evenodd == 0) z = c = pixel: a1=sqr(z), a2=p1*a1, a3=p2/(sqr(a1)) t=fn1(z), b1 = (c^(sqr(t)))*evenodd-c*fn2(t)*oddeven, b2=(fn1(a2)-fn2(a1)*fn2(a3))*evenodd-(c^(fn1(a3)/fn2(a2)))*oddeven, z=b1 b3=(1.0>=|z|), if b3 then z=b2 } frm:JoWe_04_PHC = { ; Jo Weber [100424,35], 8/1996 ; p2 - no effect ; p3 = horizontal resolution: 320, 640, 800, 1024, 1280, 1600... count = (count + 1) * (count != (p3-1)) evenodd = (evenodd == (count == 1)) oddeven = (evenodd == 0) z = c =pixel: t=fn1(z), b1 = (c^(sqr(t)))*evenodd-c*fn2(t)*oddeven, a1=fn1(z), a2=p1/a1, b2=(a1-a2+pixel)*oddeven+c*a1*(a2-0.34)*evenodd, z=b1 b3=(|z|<=4) if b3 then z=b2 } frm:JoWe_19_PHC_4 { ; Jo Weber, 8/1996 ; p3 = horizontal resolution: 320, 640, 800, 1024, 1280, 1600... count = (count + 1) * (count != (p3-1)) evenodd = (evenodd == (count == 1)) oddeven = (evenodd == 0) z = c = pixel: t=fn1(z) z = (c^(fn2(t)))*evenodd+(c*fn2(t)*oddeven) } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint) B&W from color?:loadmaps both ways Date: 25 May 1998 00:24:02 EDT In a message dated 98-05-24 21:29:22 EDT, you write: << Hitting plus gets you to the palette editing mode. Here you work on the map now on your screen. You do not load new maps in this mode. Gedeon >> Gedeon... Loading maps from here is possible. Check it out. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RParracho Subject: (fractint) Quickie 2 par and frm Date: 25 May 1998 00:38:09 EDT R in RParracho stands for Rui (Viva Portugal). It is I guess the equivelent of Roy in America because thats what everyone calls me. I think I have my sstools.ini in order now. this makes fractint so much easier to use thank you. musing (I wish I had access to Graphdev in compuserve... ahhh) Since I'm on aol and it dominatess everything (can't even run netscape) Does anyone know how I go about geting access to IRC chatting? Another quickie post Practice {;RSP 24MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf001.frm formulaname=rsp_1012 center-mag=-0.507042/0.0626305/1.173709/1/-90 params=0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=256 outside=atan logmap=yes periodicity=0 colors=000Nzj<7>FzgDzfDyf<41>K85K64K53K32K21L00<9>900700600400300100000<\ 20>r5At6Bw6Bz7Cz7C<7>t5Cs5Cr5Cq4Cp4Co3B<2>l5Ek5Fj5Gi5Hh6Ig6J<5>j7Pk8Rk8S\ l9Tm9U<21>yHqzIszJr<29>zqPzsOzsP<29>zyxzzzyzz<36>Ozk } Practice_2 {;RSP 24MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf001.frm formulaname=rsp_1012 center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=0.845/0.018/100/0 float=y maxiter=256 outside=atan logmap=yes periodicity=0 colors=000Nzj<7>FzgDzfDyf<39>KB7K96K85K64K53K32K21L00<7>B00A009007006004\ 00<2>000<20>r5At6Bw6Bz7Cz7C<9>r5Cq4Cp4Co3Bn4C<5>h6Ig6Jh6K<4>j7Pk8Rk8Sl9T\ m9U<21>yHqzIszJr<29>zqPzsOzsP<27>zyvzywzyxzzzyzzxzz<35>Ozk } Practice_3 {;RSP 24MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf001.frm formulaname=rsp_1012 passes=t center-mag=-0.0117665/0/0.3976084/1/52.499 params=16/-54/1e-006/0 float=y maxiter=1000 outside=atan logmap=yes decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=0000CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<11>I0\ KO08<15>z0f<12>O08O00<15>z88<12>O00c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>\ aG00C4<15>0zR<12>0C4000<10>000zzz000O08 } Sparkler {;RSP 24MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf001.frm formulaname=rsp_1011 center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=0.625/0.35/0/0 float=y maxiter=256 logmap=yes periodicity=0 colors=000E0l<5>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ<2>0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm\ 0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy\ 2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Eq03x60t<6>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ0Ye0Nk0Eq03x60t<6\ >z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz\ 0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0E\ q03x60t<6>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ0Ye0Nk0Eq03x60t } Kirlian {;RSP 24MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf001.frm formulaname=rsp_1011 passes=t center-mag=+1.09074579131142400/+0.00913124383716059/804309.8 params=0.625/0/0/1000 float=y maxiter=256 periodicity=0 colors=000E0l<5>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ<2>0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm\ 0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy\ 2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Eq03x60t<6>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ0Ye0Nk0Eq03x60t<6\ >z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz\ 0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0E\ q03x60t<6>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ0Ye0Nk0Eq03x60t } frm:rsp_1010{ ;RSP 24MAY98 z=a=pixel, c=a*(a*a-1)/(a*a*a*a-3*a*a+1): z=z*z+c/a, |z|<=64} frm:rsp_1011{ ;RSP 24MAY98 bail=(64*(imag(p2)<=0)+imag(p2)), z=(pixel*(|p1|<=0)+(2.5*pixel)), a=(pixel*(|p1|<=0)+p1): b=sqr(a), c=(b-1)/(b*(b-z)+1), z=z*z+c, (real(z)*imag(z))<=bail} frm:rsp_1012{ ;*RSP 24MAY98 bail=(64*(|p2|<=0)+(p2)), z=(pixel*(|p1|<=0)+(2.5*pixel)), a=(pixel*(|p1|<=0)+p1), b=sqr(a): c=(b-1)/(b*(b-z)+1), y=real(z*c), x=flip(imag(c/z+1)), z=x+y+c, (real(z)*imag(z))>=bail} Background on formulas 1011 and 1012 are stepwise enhansments of 1110. The iterate for 1012 is based on a curve called the Witch of Agnesi. Best Regard and happy Memorial day to all, Rui Parracho Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) B&W from color?:loadmaps both ways Date: 25 May 1998 00:54:46 -0400 > << Hitting plus gets you to the palette editing mode. Here you > work on the > map now on your screen. You do not load new maps in this mode. > > Gedeon > >> > Gedeon... > Loading maps from here is possible. Check it out. > Steve You are absolutely right! I certainly did not know it, though I use both the key and the key. Thanks for pointing it out. Gedeon -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 23, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Memorial Day formula and pars Date: 25 May 1998 00:24:04 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula and pars are for new images that I just made for Memorial Day. In keeping with Memorial Day, I tried to create images that were solemn, dignified and beautiful. I'll let you judge if I succeeded at all - anyhow, they are the best that I could do. This formula is the first few terms of a series expansion of some log function - I forget just which one - it may be log((w+1)^2). Anyhow, feel free to play with it - it's not reserved for Memorial Day. Paul Carlson } frm:Log_Ser_3Way {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; real(p1) = escape circle radius squared ; imag(p1) = number of iterations to skip ; real(p2) = number of color ranges ; imag(p2) = number of colors in a range ; z = w = k = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 c = pixel prev_modw2 = 1.0e20 rad2 = real(p1) skip_iters = imag(p1) num_ranges = real(p2) colors_in_range = imag(p2) factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / rad2 : w2=w*w, w4=w2*w2, w6=w2*w4, w8=w4*w4, w10=w6*w4, w12=w6*w6 w = w2 - w4/2 + w6/3 - w8/4 + w10/5 - w12/6 + c ; IF ((prev_modw2 < rad2) && (|w| > rad2)) bailout = 1 IF (iter > skip_iters) k = 1 ENDIF z = (factor*(rad2-prev_modw2)+range_num*colors_in_range+1)*k ENDIF prev_modw2 = |w| range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20 } memorial1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:06:29.80, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=logser3w.frm formulaname=log_ser_3way passes=t center-mag=+1.29889847560546800/+0.00000000000000165/184.6536\ /1/-90 params=4/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000VVV<21>xxxzzzyyy<21>XXXVVVV00<75>V00VVV<21>xxxzzzyy\ y<22>VVV00O<77>00O000000000 } memorial2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:05:43.40, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=logser3w.frm formulaname=log_ser_3way passes=t corners=0.7535699382/0.7516588691/0.0007167509304/-0.00071655\ 09304 params=4/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 outside=summ colors=000VVV<21>xxxzzzyyy<19>___YYYXXXVVVV00<75>V00VVV<21>xx\ xzzzyyy<22>VVV00O<77>00O000000000 } memorial3 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:07:59.00, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=logser3w.frm formulaname=log_ser_3way passes=t corners=0.75223955585/0.75297147085/0.00048804333467/-0.00048\ 784333467/0.75297147085/-0.00048784333467 params=2/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=00000O<29>00OVVV<21>xxxzzzyyy<21>XXXVVVV00<75>V00VVV<2\ 1>xxxzzzyyy<22>VVV00O<46>00O000000000 cyclerange=1/250 } memorial4 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:07:26.54, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=logser3w.frm formulaname=log_ser_3way passes=t center-mag=+0.47702148083200460/-0.54215310685101470/40341.53\ /1/154.997 params=4/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000VVV<21>xxxzzzyyy<19>___YYYXXXVVV00O<75>00OVVV<21>xx\ xzzzyyy<21>WWWVVVV00<77>V00000000000 } memorial5 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:07:58.95, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=logser3w.frm formulaname=log_ser_3way passes=t corners=0.7522332906/0.75297195778/0.00049254478667/-0.000492\ 34478667/0.75297195778/-0.00049234478667 params=2/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 outside=summ colors=000VVV<21>xxxzzzyyy<17>bbb```___YYYXXXVVV00O<75>00OVVV\ <21>xxxzzzyyy<21>WWWVVVV00<77>V00000000000 } memorial6 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:03:53.16, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=logser3w.frm formulaname=log_ser_3way passes=t center-mag=+1.29821000000000000/+0.00000000000000165/71.64558\ /1/-90 params=4/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000VVV<21>xxxzzzyyy<21>XXXVVVV00<75>V00VVV<21>xxxzzzyy\ y<22>VVV00O<77>00O000000000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) Par_Frm - The Fat Man Date: 25 May 1998 01:48:23 EDT Joe... Cool! Fat man at martigras! Nice. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)PAR:Variety Pack # 3 Date: 25 May 1998 01:49:32 EDT Hi there... Here are some pars. Steve ============================================================ 001 { ; (c) Steve Karl May 25, 1998 t= 0:02:13.92 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 ; 002b-from-sk005.par reset=1960 type=sqr(1/fn) function=atan passes=b center-mag=+0.01942849999999985/+0.01128950000000017/0.5641948/1/-90 float=y bailout=1 bailoutest=and inside=bof61 outside=summ decomp=256 colors=00000N<6>00c<15>zzz<15>EEcBBa88Z<2>00S<9>003000022<14>0cc<15>zzz<\ 15>0c0<14>030000200<13>`00c00d44<13>zzz<3>snNukDsh3qe0<2>kX0aU0<9>I00<8>\ 000300000003005<5>D0KF0MJ0P<3>Q0ZS0`U2cW4d<2>aGhcKieMkgOmiWokYpmbqoesqju\ sovupwxvyzzzyvxwpuvosujqseoqbmpYkoWimOgkMeiKc<2>f8Yd4Wc2U`0S<4>R0IP0GN0G\ L0C<4>B02900700500005<5>00K } 002 { ; (c) Steve Karl May 25, 1998 t= 0:04:06.73 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 ; 010-from-sk005.par reset=1960 type=sqr(1/fn) function=asin passes=b center-mag=+0.00759251999999999/+0.01128949999999995/0.7542711/1/-90 float=y bailoutest=and inside=bof61 outside=summ potential=256/256/33 decomp=256 colors=000eep<8>EEcBBa88Z<2>00S<9>003000022<14>0cc<15>zzz<15>0c0<14>0300\ 00200<13>`00c00d44<13>zzz<3>snNukDsh3qe0<2>kX0aU0<9>I00<8>00030000000300\ 5<5>D0KF0MJ0P<3>Q0ZS0`U2cW4d<2>aGhcKieMkgOmiWokYpmbqoesqjusovupwxvyzzzyv\ xwpuvosujqseoqbmpYkoWimOgkMeiKc<2>f8Yd4Wc2U`0S<4>R0IP0GN0GL0C<4>B0290070\ 0500005<13>00c<15>zzz<5>hhq } 003 { ; (c) Steve Karl May 25, 1998 t= 0:03:36.85 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 ; 018c-sk005.par reset=1960 type=sqr(1/fn) function=sinh passes=1 center-mag=+0.92237568512744840/-0.25820315795631270/8.695652/2.5/90 float=y bailoutest=real maxiter=1410065407 inside=bof61 outside=summ potential=256/256/99 decomp=256 colors=000CCh<2>00c<14>003000022<14>0cc<15>zzz<15>0cc<14>033000200<13>`0\ 0c00d44<13>zzz<15>c00<14>300000020<14>0c0<15>zzz<15>0c0<14>030000002<14>\ 00c<15>zzz<11>GGi } 004-batwarp { ; (c) Steve Karl May 25, 1998 t= 0:03:16.08 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 ; 021-from-sk005.par reset=1960 type=sqr(1/fn) function=sinh passes=1 center-mag=+0.75969750543256140/+0.89679417437582350/6.076654/1.3271/-11\ .762/-40.699 float=y bailoutest=real maxiter=1410065407 inside=bof61 outside=summ potential=256/67/999 decomp=256 colors=000FhF<11>zzz<15>0c0<14>030000002<14>00c<15>zzz<15>00c<14>0030000\ 22<14>0cc<15>zzz<15>0cc<14>033000200<13>`00c00d44<13>zzz<15>c00<14>30000\ 0020<14>0c0<2>BgB } 005-FloralBridge-3 { ; (c) Steve Karl May 25, 1998 t= 0:04:32.81 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 ; 023-F.B.-3-from-sk005.par reset=1960 type=sqr(1/fn) function=cotanh passes=1 center-mag=+0.00577019525884115/+1.57180481170936400/0.9430101/0.887/-11\ .762/-40.699 float=y bailoutest=imag maxiter=1410065407 inside=bof61 outside=summ potential=256/256/999 decomp=256 colors=00044e00c<14>003000022<14>0cc<15>zzz<15>0cc<14>033000200<13>`00c0\ 0d44<13>zzz<15>c00<14>300000020<14>0c0<15>zzz<15>0c0<14>030000002<14>00c\ <15>zzz<13>88f } 005-FloralGate { ; (c) Steve Karl May 25, 1998 t= 0:05:00.66 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 ; 024b-F.G.from-sk005.par reset=1960 type=sqr(1/fn) function=cos passes=1 center-mag=-0.00462012834061509/-2.69554746867029100/1.272128/1.2195 float=y bailoutest=imag maxiter=1410065407 inside=bof61 outside=summ potential=256/256/12 decomp=256 colors=00000N<7>003000022<14>0cc<15>zzz<15>0cc<14>033000200<13>`00c00d44\ <13>zzz<15>c00<14>300000020<14>0c0<15>zzz<15>0c0<12>080000<3>00500700A<1\ 1>00c<15>zzz<15>00c<5>00P } ============================================================================== == Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)Holliday Greetings Date: 25 May 1998 01:58:01 EDT Greetings, Happy and Safe Holliday to all. Thank you all.... for all the great postings and for makeing this exchange possible. Its good to see the different styles and perceptions of so many tallented artists. It's not only inspireing to me but very enjoyable. Sincerely, Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 25 May 1998 17:29:19 +1200 At 11:49 24/05/98 -1000, Shauna Jones wrote: >On 24 May 98 at 12:13, Christian Strik wrote: >> >> And God said: >> >> div D = (rho) >> rot E = dB/dt >> div B = 0 >> rot H = dD/dt + i >> d(rho)/dt + div i = 0 >> > >Whew! A little deep for me. My highest mathematical >achievement was teaching myself topology while in high >school. Since I was an English major, I'll stick with the >"Let there be light!" formulization. > Maxwell's equations for electromagnetism. Everything 19th-Century physics knew about electricity, magnetism, and light (in short, everything except gravity) is encoded in there. And probably a few fractals as well. My favourite formulation though is still the good old "Fiat Lux". Morgan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry Bluestein Subject: Re: (fractint) No Fotn...you can't stand it? Try this... Date: 25 May 1998 09:50:49 -0400 Kragen wrote: > On Sun, 24 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > > Kragen wrote > > > > > ... > > > > I beg your pardon? > > Jihad means exerting one's utmost power contending with an > object of disapprobation, and this is of three kinds, namely, > (1) with a visible enemy, (2) with Satan, and (3) with one's > self. > > I was warning readers that what was enclosed within the jihad and > end-jihad tags constituted an effort in a jihad -- for better software > and use of computers. > > Kragen Oh. Like many Americans, I thought that Jihad just meant 'Holy War'. Thanks for the definition. -- Barry Bluestein - President The Lapis Group - Information Technology Consultants 11629 Deborah DR, Suite 1000, Potomac, MD 20854 301-299-0083 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: B&W from color? Date: 25 May 1998 08:57:12 -0500 Ray Montgomery wrote: > > > While working on some images, my mind on the image on the screen, I > absently hit a wrong key. I have no idea which one, but it was toward the > right side and toward the top. It turned the image into a B&W image and > nothing I do can seem to change it back to color. You hit the "W" key. Once you do that you cannot change back to colors. The only way yo get back to colors is to reload the color map you were using. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: RE: (fractint) Re: B&W from color? Date: 25 May 1998 10:44:04 -0400 More likely he hit the F6 key which is more towards the right than the W-key is. I've do that so many times I lose count. Then, all he'd have to do is return to the video mode he usually uses. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bob Margolis Sent: Monday, May 25, 1998 9:57 AM Ray Montgomery wrote: > > > While working on some images, my mind on the image on the screen, I > absently hit a wrong key. I have no idea which one, but it was toward the > right side and toward the top. It turned the image into a B&W image and > nothing I do can seem to change it back to color. You hit the "W" key. Once you do that you cannot change back to colors. The only way yo get back to colors is to reload the color map you were Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Problem with DOS/Fractint - Help! Date: 25 May 1998 09:05:30 -0700 David wrote: >Can you borrow another MS compatible >keyboard, plug it in, and try it? If it works fine, then the problem would >be a faulty keyboard (needs to be returned). If the borrowed one has the >same problems, then something else needs to be done... Nope, that's not it! I swapped keyboards and mice (?!!) with Mike. My keyboards worked perfectly on his machine, and his still had the same problems on mine. Paul wrote: >The only thing I can suggest is to go into the Control Panel, >double click on Keyboard, click on the General tab, and >check to see that Microsoft Natural Keyboard is selected. Even if >it is, you might try clicking the Change button and then >reselecting it and then reboot. Nope, that didn't fix it either. Thanks guys, but I still need help! Any more suggestions? Linda (Original message: Yesterday my keyboard croaked, so we bought a new one. It's a Microsoft Natural Keyboard - a little different from the last one, but it is a Microsoft product and should work in Windows and MS-DOS without any problem. But there is a problem. When I am in Fractint, I can't rotate my zoom box. Ctrl pad + and Ctrl pad - have no effect at all. I can zoom in, and I can skew, squash and stretch, but I can't rotate. Also, I can't run Partobat. When I key "partobat" at the d:\fractint prompt, it says "sorting . . ." and then freezes. My keyboard freezes, too. Even Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work, I have to turn off the computer and turn it back on again.) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Problem with DOS/Fractint - Help! Date: 25 May 1998 11:22:08 -0500 Hi Linda: Did you upload the driver for your new keyboard to your Windows files? B. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: (fractint) Triple Mutation formula Date: 25 May 1998 18:50:08 +0100 Here is another nice MandelMutation that I have just concocted in my secret lab. Imagine three random points on the complex plane. Each point is the source of a force field, just like an electron. But it's not an electric or gravitational field, it's a function field. At each point is sitting a function sending out its force onto the complex plane according to the inverse square law. Now every single point on the plane "feels" a superposition of these three forces. You may have a sine pulling with strength 0.7, a square with 1.2 and a flip with 2.5. When we add this FunctionForceFieldFrenzy to every pixel of a standard mandel computation, we can have interesting results. When the points (p1,p2,p3) are far away the influence of the force fields is only marginal, so we just get the plain Mandelbrot. When the points move closer the set is more and more mutated. For exploring this formula it is best to start with a random combination of functions with the parameters set to at least 2. Then gradually decrease the values and see what happens. Strangely enough the screen stays black when a cotan or cotanh is included. I have included 4 basic pars, as always without any artistic value whatsoever. The first one is just an unmutated mandel to make it easier for you to fiddle around with the Ps. The next two show increasing mutation, and the last one is an interesting zoom. Live long and prosper Oliver -------- TripleMutant{ ; Mandelbrot mutated by a combination of fn1, fn2 and fn3 ; "sitting" at the points p1, p2 and p3 ; The activities of the functions are decreasing with the ; inverse square of the distance to the current pixel z=0 c=pixel a1=1/(|(pixel-p1)|^2) ; calclulate the inverse square for a2=1/(|(pixel-p2)|^2) ; all three points a3=1/(|(pixel-p3)|^2): z=z*z+a1*fn1(z)+a2*fn2(z)+a3*fn3(z)+c ; the functions are added |z|<=8 } TripleMutant_01 { ; The points are far away, we see our beloved Mandelbrot ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:02:12.88 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tripmut.frm formulaname=TripleMutant function=sqrt/cos/acosh center-mag=-0.604272/-0.00330507/0.7535615 params=10/10/-10/10/10/-10 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 colors=000101<12>``rccwccw<80>zzzzzzzzy<105>gcXgcXfbWfaV<42>D24C13B02B01\ A00 } TripleMutant_02 { ; The points are moving closer ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:01:39.90 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tripmut.frm formulaname=TripleMutant function=sqrt/cos/acosh center-mag=-0.604272/-0.00330507/0.7535615 params=2.5/2.5/-2.5/2.5/2.5/-2.5 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 colors=000101<12>``rccwccw<80>zzzzzzzzy<105>gcXgcXfbWfaV<42>D24C13B02B01\ A00 } TripleMutant_03 { ; They're almost there ! ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:39.34 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tripmut.frm formulaname=TripleMutant function=sqrt/cos/acosh center-mag=-1.20921/0.115591/0.4825573 params=1/1/-1/1/1/-1 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 colors=000101<12>``rccwccw<80>zzzzzzzzy<105>gcXgcXfbWfaV<42>D24C13B02B01\ A00 } TripleMutant_04 { ; Now this an interesting tip ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:01:56.63 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tripmut.frm formulaname=TripleMutant function=asin/sqr/asinh center-mag=-1.632/-0.00507455/3.637199 params=1/1/0.7/1/1/0.2 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 colors=000101<12>``rccwccw<80>zzzzzzzzy<105>gcXgcXfbWfaV<42>D24C13B02B01\ A00 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 25 May 1998 13:00:56 -0400 Morgan L Owens wrote: > >> And God said > > > "Fiat Lux". And then, mischievously, he threw the dice. Gedeon -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 23, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint)BUG? Date: 25 May 1998 10:14:03 -0700 At 06:07 PM 5/24/98 EDT, Steve wrote: >Hello, > If I press "L" by accident { when not in color edit mode } everything >Locks up. ctrl+alt+del is the only option at this point...or so it seems. Yup, I'm very familiar with this problem. In my experience, this usually happens when I'm using Fractint to edit colors in images generated with my own software (i.e. non-Fractint GIFs, type=plasma). Since there's no Fractint type to check against, Fractint locks up. I submitted this bug to the wish list (and this list) a while back, which may have prompted the L/search refinements Tim spoke of. This happens *way* too frequently for my taste, as I occasionally try to load a new map before typing "E" (mea culpa). Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Duplicate formulas Date: 25 May 1998 14:00:40 -0400 Hi Rui, A few weeks ago, you posted the following formula: rsp_1011{ z=3Dpixel,a=3D(pixel*(|p1|<=3D0)+p1), c=3Da*(a*a-1)/(a*a*a*a-3*a*a+1): z=3Dz*z+c/a, |z|<=3D64} But your latest par/frm posting contains the following one: rsp_1011{ ;RSP 24MAY98 bail=3D(64*(imag(p2)<=3D0)+imag(p2)), z=3D(pixel*(|p1|<=3D0)+(2.5*pixel)), a=3D(pixel*(|p1|<=3D0)+p1): b=3Dsqr(a), c=3D(b-1)/(b*(b-z)+1), z=3Dz*z+c, (real(z)*imag(z))<=3Dbail} To avoid confusion, I renamed the latter as rsp_1011m but maybe you wou= ld like to choose another name? Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Problem with DOS/Fractint - Help! Date: 25 May 1998 14:39:37 -0400 At 09:05 AM 5/25/1998 -0700, you wrote: 2nd - er 3rd thing to try: I assume you had some software to install with you new keyboard - if it is a really good one. If so, did you try uninstalling and reinstalling the software? davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) Problem with DOS/Fractint - Help! Date: 25 May 1998 15:16:50 EDT In a message dated 98-05-25 12:15:08 EDT, you write: << I can zoom in, and I can skew, squash and stretch, but I can't rotate. Also, I can't run Partobat. When I key "partobat" at the d:\fractint prompt, it says "sorting . . ." and then freezes. My keyboard freezes, too. Even Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work, I have to turn off the computer and turn it back on again.) >> Linda... I'm no expert in dos or 'puters but at this point { since its such a small directory in my machine } I'd store all personal , non executable items now contained in fractint in a safe directory somewhere in my drive and delete all of fractint ...includeing partobat. Wipe the whole file and reload it. Do you have an other dos program that you can test operation on? Have you called the manufacturer of your main box? Have you got the propper drive for the new hrdware? Things may have gotten wacked out if the old driver was trying to do something with an incompatable piece of hardware? Hummm....there has to be a file that is incharge of keyboard interface and keystrokes....but I've never been there. I'm sure someone on the list has. I'm just pokeing in the dark for possibilities....I really don't know. Good luck. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: (fractint) Mutant pars Date: 25 May 1998 21:36:31 +0100 I have done some zooming into the Triple Mutants I just posted. Here are some pars that actually look quite good. They're a bit on the gloomy side. Oliver -------- TripleMutant{ ; Mandelbrot mutated by a combination of fn1, fn2 and fn3 ; "sitting" at the points p1, p2 and p3 ; The activities of the functions are decreasing with the ; inverse square of the distance to the current pixel z=0 c=pixel a1=1/(|(pixel-p1)|^2) ; calclulate the inverse square for a2=1/(|(pixel-p2)|^2) ; all three points a3=1/(|(pixel-p3)|^2): z=z*z+a1*fn1(z)+a2*fn2(z)+a3*fn3(z)+c ; the functions are added |z|<=8 } TripleMutant_05 { ; The Ghost of Mortville Manor ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:01:17.84 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tripmut.frm formulaname=TripleMutant function=conj/conj/tanh center-mag=-1.85787/0.000586701/28.98551/1/-90 params=-0.7/1.1/3.6/-3.2/2.4/-0.5 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 logmap=7 colors=000<12>80G80H90IA0KA0KA0K<139>TlyTlyUmzVmz<15>xynzzmzzm<71>D24C13\ B02B01A00 } TripleMutant_06 { ; The Shimmering Bug of Yuggoth ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:01:08.40 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tripmut.frm formulaname=TripleMutant function=cosh/floor/log center-mag=-1.26003/-0.0203035/1.31711/1/-90 params=-1.15/4.2/-0.35/-5/0.6/0.01 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 logmap=2 colors=000<15>A0AA0AB1BB2B<42>c_cd`ddaddad<38>yyyzzzzzzzzz<145>iXeyzzzzz } TripleMutant_07 { ; The Flaming Crescent of Shub-Niggurath ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:01:29.54 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tripmut.frm formulaname=TripleMutant function=atanh/log/cos center-mag=-1.24136/0.278431/0.5383503/1/-90 params=2.8/2.2/-2.1/-5.7/-2/1.7 float=y maxiter=1500 bailout=8 inside=0 colors=000<44>M04M04N05O05<29>b01c00c00c10<60>yy9zzAzzAzzA<109>zzz } TripleMutant_08 { ; Yog-Sothoth Rises from the Ectoplasm ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:02:37.91 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tripmut.frm formulaname=TripleMutant function=sqr/cabs/sqr center-mag=-1.44680253506055800/-0.02461448829499405/292.6732/1/-150 params=0.9/-6.8/-1.9/1.6/-0.3/-1.2 float=y maxiter=200 bailout=8 inside=0 logmap=15 colors=000<2>011011121131<88>Tv1Uw0Uw0Uw0<152>120120010000000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) B&W from color? Date: 25 May 1998 13:26:30 -0700 I do this alllllllll the time!!!!! (by mistake of course...)....but it turns out that by hitting F10 the color is restored (phew). Sorry for not chatting Again this morning....but I'm having some sort of isp or other web troubles. Glad to hear that some of you managed to get together. I'll have all week to yell at my isp, so maybe we can try for next Saturday. Angela Gedeon Peteri wrote: > > Ray, > > You probably hit either F6, F7, or F8. These keys are connected with black and white > > Gedeon > > Ray Montgomery wrote: > > > While working on some images, my mind on the image on the screen, I > > absently hit a wrong key. I have no idea which one, but it was toward the > > right side and toward the top. It turned the image into a B&W image and > > nothing I do can seem to change it back to color. > > Is there a way to change images back and forth between color and B&W? I > > don't want the B&W image but it would be interesting to know that it could > > be done - and how to do it. > > Would appreciate help. > > > > Thanks Ray > > > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cjc26@cornell.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) B&W from color? Date: 25 May 1998 16:20:26 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 25 May 1998, Angela Wilczynski wrote: > Sorry for not chatting Again this morning....but I'm having some sort of > isp or other web troubles. Glad to hear that some of you managed to get > together. I'll have all week to yell at my isp, so maybe we can try for > next Saturday. We thought you overslept. :) Cliff Crawford | Windows NT crashed. http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ | I am the Blue Screen of Death. | No one hears your screams. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) The Search for O Date: 25 May 1998 13:58:04 -0700 Chris... You can make o-ish fractals for your very own self by using the OK series of formulas which are part of the fractint.frm file that comes with fractint version 19.6. I used Bob's excellent advice and downloaded one of the gifs at spanky to see if it contained all of the data fractint needs....and it did!!! After viewing O's efforts....I fiddled with the formula myself to come up with o-wiz1 { ; (c) A Wilczynski May 25, 1998 t= 0:00:32.37 on 266 PII reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=OK-42 function=log/flip/tan/ident center-mag=-0.0388982/-0.0999511/1.866679/1/-29.999 params=1/1/0.5/0 float=y maxiter=1150 potential=256/200/0 invert=0.3/0/0 colors=000256<18>Usz<17>234000000<4>000000001102<40>b0xc0zb0y<32>2020000\ 01<27>JGTKHUKHT<27>111000000000<3>000011032<27>Amc<25>255143122000000000\ 000000123 } I would also suggest you take a look at some of Damien Jone's formulas.....I've gotten some rather similar using them. Thanks for pointing out yet another wonderful feature at Spanky!! and welcome to the list Angela aka wizzle Mars Magus wrote: > > Greetings all, > Time to stop lurking :) > Ladies and gents... where in fractality can I build beauties like the stuff > our silent friend O comes up with? I've been doing this for art a looong time > (on woefully underpowered machines, but!!) and I've never seen anything like > his kimono, or his nharmonic patterns and I am just amazed. Could someone > either post or point me to those pars? > Thanks much, > Chris Bielanski Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint)saving colors only to parfile? Date: 25 May 1998 14:01:56 -0700 Tim let me have a peek at the developer's version of fractint....and in the next version he has kindly included the ability to save only the color map part of the pars......with enhanced squishability or something too!! that's techy talk for the "colors will be saved better." I've re-done about half of the new color maps using the developer's version....and it works great. I'll let you know when the upgraded versions are posted. Angela aka wizzle Bob Margolis wrote: > > SKarl52884 wrote: > > > > In a message dated 98-05-24 18:38:33 EDT, you write: > > > > << Why not just save the colormap? >> > > Yes I often do... but getting it to the par file then is done always in a text > > editor? > > I can't imagine any other way to save the colormap just as a param file > right now. Maybe in a later Fractint version. Hitting the "b" key and > then "y" for save colors (not the name of the color map) works, but you > have to give the param file a name at least and where to save it to. > You'll still wind out having to delete all the rest of the param info > just have only. Too much work for my taste. > > Bob > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Quickie 2 par and frm Date: 25 May 1998 14:11:14 -0700 Rui... You should be able to use MIRC for chatting even though your isp is AOL....I know many people from AOL who do. Download MIRC from http://www.mirc.co.uk/ I believe the AOL software also has a chat client which you could use instead of MIRC....you will have to check your help files. And.....since Netscape and AOL are now in a strategic partnership, you ought to be able to use Communicator (if you want to take up the 10megs of space it uses on your hard disk.) To use MIRC....download it into it's own folder, install, then run the program while you are connected to AOL. I'm assuming you have WIN95 and can squish AOL. I tried AOL at a friend's house and didn't like it AT ALL. Their software is invariably behind what is available for free on the web. Good luck!! Angela aka wizzle RParracho wrote: > > R in RParracho stands for Rui (Viva Portugal). It is I guess the equivelent > of Roy in America > because thats what everyone calls me. > > I think I have my sstools.ini in order now. this makes fractint so much > easier to use thank you. > musing (I wish I had access to Graphdev in compuserve... ahhh) > Since I'm on aol and it dominatess everything (can't even run netscape) Does > anyone know how I go about geting > access to IRC chatting? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Problem with DOS/Fractint - Help! Date: 25 May 1998 16:57:20 -0400 At 02:39 PM 5/25/1998 -0400, you wrote: >At 09:05 AM 5/25/1998 -0700, you wrote: > >2nd - er 3rd thing to try: I assume you had some software to install with >you new keyboard - if it is a really good one. If so, did you try >uninstalling and reinstalling the software? 'nother thing: While you are there (and to carry Paul's suggestion farther..): Control Panel/System/Device Manager/keyboard ; open (click on "+"), does this read the same as Control Panel/Keyboard (highlight) and now/Properties? It should. (both should be reading something like "Standard 101/102 or MS compatible?) While here, check tabs (general, driver, resources). Does this read driver not necessary or words to that effect? Or update driver? (Think Bob asked if driver was updated). Are there any conflicts showing: (!) (in yellow) {BTW, if this is already familiar to you...} Are there any conflicts elsewhere? e.g.: video controllers, system devices? And what does your keyboad properties say? "Standard 101/102 or MS compatible?) davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) 3 more Memorial Day pars Date: 25 May 1998 17:34:49 -0500 (CDT) comment { Here's three more Memorial Day pars. Like the first six, these use my Log_Ser_3Way formula. Paul Carlson } memorial7 { ; Copyright(c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:04:13.92, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=logser3w.frm formulaname=log_ser_3way passes=t center-mag=+0.49491807001999930/+0.55083604619060190/181.2098\ /1/-55 params=4/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000VVV<21>xxxzzzyyy<19>___YYYXXXVVVV00<75>V00VVV<21>xx\ xzzzyyy<22>VVV00O<77>00O000000000 } memorial8 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:06:13.17, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=logser3w.frm formulaname=log_ser_3way passes=t center-mag=+0.72761738698560930/+0.00000000000000016/2252.223\ /1/-90 params=4/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000VVV<21>xxxzzzyyy<19>___YYYXXXVVVV00<75>V00VVV<21>xx\ xzzzyyy<22>VVV00O<77>00O000000000 } memorial9 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:11:12.34, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=logser3w.frm formulaname=log_ser_3way passes=t center-mag=+0.69956274766150670/+0.00000000000000016/8140.597\ /1/-90 params=4/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000VVV<21>xxxzzzyyy<19>___YYYXXXVVVV00<75>V00VVV<21>xx\ xzzzyyy<22>VVV00O<77>00O000000000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) Glossary Date: 25 May 1998 16:01:39 -0700 If a question was asked, "How do I configure my *proxy* settings?" what does 'proxy' mean in this setting? I know what proxy means, in a court room, etc., I don't know how it is used in computer-talk. If some instructions said "You can move your *cookies* to....." What are *cookies*? If a 'something' is *docked* - what does that mean? My sweet little puppy has a 'docked' tail. Same thing? I've now got to go out and mow my lawn. I better have some answers by the time I get back or..."I'll *dock* all your tails, toss my *cookies* all over your keyboards, and do it all by *proxy*. :~/ or 8-| or >:^()" But, seriously folks.......! Thanks Ray Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Glossary Date: 25 May 1998 18:36:29 -0500 Ray Montgomery wrote: > > If a question was asked, "How do I configure my *proxy* settings?" what does 'proxy' mean in this setting? > I know what proxy means, in a court room, etc., > I don't know how it is used in computer-talk. > If some instructions said "You can move your > *cookies* to....." What are *cookies*? > If a 'something' is *docked* - what does that mean? > My sweet little puppy has a 'docked' tail. Same thing? > There are several hundred websites dedicated to such explanations. My first suggestion would be on how you may go about using the various Search Engines that are available. Then you might be able to do the following: http://hotbot.com/?MT=acronyms+definitions+glossary&submit=SEARCH&SM=MC&_v=2&OPs=MDRTP&DC=25 P.N.L. Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) No Fotn...you can't stand it? Try this... Date: 25 May 1998 20:22:56 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 25 May 1998, Barry Bluestein wrote: > Kragen wrote: > > On Sun, 24 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > > > Kragen wrote > > > > ... > > Oh. Like many Americans, I thought that Jihad just meant 'Holy War'. Actually, that's what I meant by it :) But when you Mr. Strik asked what it was, I felt I ought to look up the definition... Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint)saving colors only to parfile? Date: 25 May 1998 20:48:17 EDT In a message dated 98-05-25 16:50:51 EDT, you write: << Tim let me have a peek at the developer's version of fractint....and in the next version he has kindly included the ability to save only the color map part of the pars......with enhanced squishability or something too!! >> Cool! Thank you developers! And thank you Angela! Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) A Fractalnaut with a problem Date: 25 May 1998 20:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Fractinters: This afternoon, I received the following message from a frustrated fractal explorer. >On May 24 I was delighted to view the >exciting fractal images on : alt.binaries. >pictures.fractals, but I was stopped by >WebTV from sending the site to the terminal >with my other fractals material. I wonder if >you could send me a page that would connect >me to the Group? My other materials, >including FAQs and search engines, haved >failed to bring it in. A one-line web address >would probably work. Thank you, Mort Gilbert The return address is . I can't help him because I'm not even sure what his problem is. If anyone can give him a hand, I'm sure he'd appreciate it. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) Speaking of "O" Date: 25 May 1998 21:04:01 -0400 Greetings. I have also been an admirer of O's fractals; I am curious as to why he hasn't posted any lately. Re: discussion, on inputting some of his images into fractint, I have come with fn+fn, fn*fn etc. as formulas he uses. Then again, I have only put in 3 or 4. I had not seen where he had used any of the OK frms; must have been on some image series I did not put in. Thought I would try an Ok or 2 - here are 4 quick pars: ============================================================================ =======> cage { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 25, 1998 t=0:00:45.65 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=OK-42 function=tan/tan/sin/cotan passes=t center-mag=0.158697/0.146235/11.80878/1/47.5 params=4/4/4/4 float=y inside=zmag decomp=256 colors=RRPRRP<20>xxuzzwyyv<41>111A20<10>yhW<22>A20111<32>zzw<22>111MC7<6\ >yhW<14>A20000<55>000000111222<13>PPO } cage2 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 25, 1998 t=0:00:45.65 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; colormap: "O"map1 ; cycling is good reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=OK-42 function=tan/tan/sin/cotan passes=t center-mag=0.158697/0.146235/11.80878/1/47.5 params=4/4/4/4 float=y inside=zmag decomp=256 colors=000O67X9AfDE<3>500C30<8>xjW<12>K86G54C30A0A043065<13>0jj0mm0mm<2>\ 0mm0mm0kk<18>096074074<2>085C0G<19>M0aM0bM0bM0c<18>C0G0FB<15>0mm<26>0GE0\ FD0DB0C90B8096C30<10>xgU<22>C30054<19>0ON0PO0RQ<2>0RQ0RQ0QP0PO<16>055500\ E33 } cage3 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 25, 1998 t=0:00:45.65 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; colormap: prpl ; cycling is good reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=OK-42 function=tan/tan/sin/cotan passes=t center-mag=0.158697/0.146235/11.80878/1/47.5 params=4/4/4/4 float=y inside=zmag decomp=256 colors=605605<7>Y0P`0Ra0Sb0T<9>000B08<32>`0Sa0Sb0Tb0Tb0Ua0T<33>403302000\ <20>VVQXXSYYT__V``W<7>llgnniookqqmrro<4>zzw<14>YYUWWRUUQ<13>222000000<82\ >302 } mesh { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 25, 1998 t=0:00:39.71 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; colormap: lindaa02 ; cycling is good reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=OK-42 function=tan/tan/cotan/cotan passes=t center-mag=0.158697/0.146235/11.80878/1/47.5 params=4/4/4/4 float=y inside=zmag decomp=256 colors=E0MCqcCrdDtf<33>121000202<5>F0O<7>202000110<31>zzy<32>000202<5>F0\ O<6>203000000<31>W00X00W00<31>000202<5>F0O<6>203000010<36>Cob } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Glossary Date: 25 May 1998 22:40:52 -0400 (EDT) I'm afraid this is a little off-topic. On Mon, 25 May 1998, Ray Montgomery wrote: > If a question was asked, "How do I configure my > *proxy* settings?" what does 'proxy' mean in this setting? Usually it means a computer that sits between you and the rest of the Internet; whenever you want to get some information from some computer out on the internet (say gentle.dyn.ml.org), instead of asking gentle.dyn.ml.org directly, you ask your proxy, your proxy asks gentle.dyn.ml.org, and relays the response back to you. Proxy settings are probably what computer to use as a proxy for web-browsing and how, but they could be other things too. > I know what proxy means, in a court room, etc., I don't know how it is used > in computer-talk. > If some instructions said "You can move your > *cookies* to....." What are *cookies*? Cookies are little pieces of information, meaningless in themselves, that are just used to establish your identity. The idea is that you generate a random string of bits, which becomes a shared secret between you and some computer that cares who you are. Whenever you want it to know it's you, you send it the cookie. Passwords are an example. Probably they're talking about HTTP cookies; a web server can send you a cookie and request that you send it every time you visit that server, so it can tell it's the same person -- even if you switch IP addresses, for instance. By default, most browsers will accept all cookies without telling you, and then send them back to the server on every subsequent connection. A lot of people don't like this, for privacy reasons. > If a 'something' is *docked* - what does that mean? On NeXT machines and Linux (or Unix) machines running WindowMaker, the "dock" is this little buttonbar on the screen. You can drag an application onto the dock, and it will become a little button on the dock until the next time you click on it. "docking toolbars", "docking popups", "docking menubars", etc., are normally-floating things (that is, you can drag them around with your mouse -- they're not attached to anything else) that will stick to the edge of the application's main window if you drag 'em there. These mostly exist on Win95 and WinNT4. > My sweet little puppy has a 'docked' tail. Same thing? Hope not :) Hope this helps. Feel free to pass it on to anyone you think could benefit. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) Glossary Date: 25 May 1998 23:24:39 -0400 Cookies are more than just random strings of bits, more often than not. = In Javascript, you can make a page drop information about the way you = last left a page; for example, if you have Internet Explorer 4, the = default homepage (home.microsoft.com) can be set up to look (more or = less) the way you want it. You can change the search service you want = to use, the stock quotes you look at, your favorite links, and when you = go to that page (or you start up your browser) it will appear the way = you last left it. The settings are saved on your computer in a little = cookie file, and are retrieved when you view the page. This way, the = server doesn't have to store the information itself, and send you a = different page depending on what you want it to look like. Every user = gets the same page, really, and the Javascript uses the cookies on each = individual's computer. Some people don't like cookies though, because = the server can track your usage, such as where you last were, how often = you visit, etc. For example, if you go to one page on the server, and = enter you name and email address to subscribe to a mailing list, then = later on you decide you want to download a trial version of a program = from that server, if they gave your browser a cookie, they can find out = your email address. Then, they can use it to find out who has the trial = software, and can aim advertising at that person based on what kind of = software you got, and viola, you get spam! It's a pain sometimes, but a = cookie can only be viewed by the server that put it there, and also, the = only thing in there is what you told them yourself, so more often than = not, they arent harmful. The worst thing is having your usage tracked, = and having your information linked to other information (as the spam = thing mentioned above). Pete // > If some instructions said "You can move your // > *cookies* to....." What are *cookies*? // =20 // Cookies are little pieces of information, meaningless in themselves, // that are just used to establish your identity. The idea is that you // generate a random string of bits, which becomes a shared secret = between // you and some computer that cares who you are. Whenever you want it = to // know it's you, you send it the cookie. Passwords are an example. // =20 // Probably they're talking about HTTP cookies; a web server can send = you // a cookie and request that you send it every time you visit that = server, // so it can tell it's the same person -- even if you switch IP = addresses, // for instance. By default, most browsers will accept all cookies // without telling you, and then send them back to the server on every // subsequent connection. A lot of people don't like this, for privacy // reasons. // =20 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mars Magus Subject: (fractint) More Missions Date: 25 May 1998 23:49:19 EDT I'm curious as to a few things, First: How can I pull plotting tricks like plotting orbit points and assigning them escape values, a la mandelcloud. I think there's a way, but I haven't the first clue how to capture those. I could use some help there :) (can you say "Doppler effect?") Next: Was there a dominant thinking among all of you about the need to separate the PAR/FRM data from the rest of it? If not, I'd like to plead a case for using the subject-line tagging. Regardless of what mail client (although this especially true with integrated ones like AOL) it is easiest to work with a visible note when there is one present in the post. Some of you are probably just forgetting till you after send it . Even when it's more chat than par, we're still lookin' for that par!! It's just plain easier :) (extra note - this will also streamline filtering for reposting later, should we actually split the lists as proposed.) Last: umm... I forgot :) Don'tcha just _hate_ that? Rambling, Chris Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mars Magus Subject: (fractint) More Missions (parte deux) Date: 26 May 1998 00:03:56 EDT I remembered!! I remembered!!! Where can I get the file to do a batch render of any par or frm without having to alter something like fract19.bat to do it for me... I have to sleep, but not so my computer Woohoo!! Chris Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)PAR: more OK-42 ala Davids "mesh" Date: 26 May 1998 00:27:19 EDT Hi there... I looked at Davids pars (cage1,2,3, and Mesh...nice pars David...and nice map by Linda Alison lindaa02.map ) and got very interested in exploring further. Here's what I found. Thanks for the inspiration. Steve =============================================================== 001-screenbender { ; (c) Steve Karl May 26, 1998 t= 0:03:26.97 ; time on Pent.100 800X600 ; colormap: lindaa02 ; a spinoff of David Shanoltzer's "Mesh" reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=ok-42 function=cotan/cotan/cotan/cotan passes=t center-mag=1.36472/2.82415/0.60381/2.4883/25 params=0.5/3/0.5/3 float=y maxiter=999 inside=0 outside=mult potential=145/123/999 invert=1/0/0 decomp=256 colors=E0M7SL<15>021000202<5>F0O<8>000110<31>zzy<32>000202<5>F0O<6>20300\ 0000<31>W00X00W00<31>000202<5>F0O<6>203000010<39>Dtf<16>7UM } =============================================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 26 May 1998 17:04:51 +1200 At 13:00 25/05/98 -0400, Gedeon wrote: > Morgan L Owens wrote: > >> >> And God said > >> >> >> "Fiat Lux". > >And then, mischievously, he threw the dice. > Really? I didn't see that :-) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) Triple Mutation formula Date: 26 May 1998 17:34:19 +1200 At 18:50 25/05/98 +0100, Oliver wrote: >[about his TripleMandel formula] Cool! Now that is an idea that offers all sorts of variations. One fly in this ointment is that due to the nonstandard |.| function Fractint uses, the force fields are actually dropping off according to an inverse _fourth_ power rule, rather than an inverse square one. But that just suggest yet another direction for future exploration. I still like it, as the par below suggests. Morgan "With gleeful disregard for physical significance" Owens Belligerent { ; What are you looking at? ; (C)1998 Morgan L. Owens reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mailbox.frm formulaname=triplemutant function=conj/zero/cosxx center-mag=-1.26974/8.88178e-016/1.253133/1/90 params=-2/0/-1/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1023 bailout=8 inside=bof60 colors=000A00A001B0<7>5I46I47J48J49K4<34>reMwww<48>555F00<15>YHB_JC_KC<3\ 0>zt`rrr<48>AAAK00<48>wmU000<3>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint)PAR: more OK-42 ala Davids "mesh" Date: 26 May 1998 05:35:59 -0400 At 12:27 AM 5/26/1998 EDT, you wrote: >Hi there... >I looked at Davids pars (cage1,2,3, and Mesh...nice pars David... (snipped) >Steve >001-screenbender (par snipped) I liked it! I was using settings similar to what O used on the one's I checked and didn't have time to do very much. Maybe I'll explore more of those - inspiration can be a two way street. :) davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 26 May 1998 13:14:55 -0400 (EDT) This morning, I wrote a small (about 5K) program that does L-Systems. It's written in Perl at the moment; later on I might translate it into C so it'll be easy to run on a machine without Perl and Right now, it just does the fractint.l Dragon curve; I'll give it the ability to read from fractint.l or equivalent in the next couple of days. It outputs in HPGL (which is handy if you have a pen plotter; most of us don't) or in PostScript. I wrote it because Fractint's L-Systems render onto your raster screen; if you then try to print the results, all the lines are jaggedy and you're limited to the resolution of the screen. (This looks bad on a laser printer, but it looks even worse on a pen plotter -- I bought a couple last weekend.) Now I can drive my pen plotter sensibly with L-Systems. I don't know if anyone is actually interested in playing with this (after all, you need something that speaks HPGL or PostScript, and you need to have Perl installed, and it only does one fractal), but if you are, it's at . Does anyone have suggestions about what vector formats would be more widely readable by Win95 users? After all, almost half the PC's out there have Win95 on them, and most of the other half have something related. PostScript and HPGL just don't cut it in that world. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HWeber8606 Subject: (fractint) Partobat - problem solved!? Date: 26 May 1998 15:02:09 EDT Hi, today I added PartoBat ver. 3.5 to the download area on my page http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber. Because I haven't a PII I need your response (see the original message from Michael Peters below). --Jo-- Betr: Partobat new version Bereich: Fractint Sources An: all Montag, 25. Mai 1998 12:17:03 Von: Michael Peters, 100041,247 #15932 I've uploaded Partobat version 3.5 (will turn up in the libs soon). It should take care of the runtime error problems on very fast machines. I patched my Borland Pascal compiler and it should work now, but I couldn't test it because the problem never happened on my machine, so there's a slight chance that the problem is still there. Please let me know how it goes. I'll be away for vacation (and offline) until June 12. btw I have not yet realized Lee's 'savename' feature - the version is the same as 3.4 except for the runtime error (I hope). -Michael Peters mpeters@csi.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 26 May 1998 14:58:06 -0500 Kragen, - Does anyone have suggestions about what vector formats would be more - widely readable by Win95 users? Windows metafile (.WMF). Not sure where you can find out how to create such a file without the Windows API, though. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Color Update Date: 26 May 1998 13:09:57 -0700 I've updated the color pars at my website using the developer's version of Fractint. Tim says the newer version gives better color fidelity when using the par format. The maps are the same, but the colors may be better .....only the par versions have been changed and they will work using the current version of Fractint. Also, I've added a par file of all the maps I've made for Paul Carlson's formulas....the pars are in a new gallery you can see at http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractalintro.htm Angela aka wizzle Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Speaking of "O" Date: 26 May 1998 07:47:20 -0700 Our friend "O" had some eye problems, and then had some 'puter problems and is still trying to catch up. At least that was the last I heard as of a couple of weeks ago. I'll write to him again and let him know he's missed. You can do the same. His address is: oooo@calweb.com Linda -----Original Message----- >Greetings. >I have also been an admirer of O's fractals; I am curious as to why he >hasn't posted any lately. >Re: discussion, on inputting some of his images into fractint, I have come >with fn+fn, fn*fn etc. as formulas he uses. Then again, I have only put in >3 or 4. >I had not seen where he had used any of the OK frms; must have been on some >image series I did not put in. Thought I would try an Ok or 2 - here are 4 >quick pars: > >======================================================================= ===== >=======> > > >cage { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 25, 1998 t=0:00:45.65 > ; P200 MMX 1024x768 > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=OK-42 > function=tan/tan/sin/cotan passes=t > center-mag=0.158697/0.146235/11.80878/1/47.5 params=4/4/4/4 float=y > inside=zmag decomp=256 > colors=RRPRRP<20>xxuzzwyyv<41>111A20<10>yhW<22>A20111<32>zzw<22>111MC7<6 \ > >yhW<14>A20000<55>000000111222<13>PPO > } > >cage2 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 25, 1998 t=0:00:45.65 > ; P200 MMX 1024x768 > ; colormap: "O"map1 > ; cycling is good > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=OK-42 > function=tan/tan/sin/cotan passes=t > center-mag=0.158697/0.146235/11.80878/1/47.5 params=4/4/4/4 float=y > inside=zmag decomp=256 > colors=000O67X9AfDE<3>500C30<8>xjW<12>K86G54C30A0A043065<13>0jj0mm0mm<2> \ > 0mm0mm0kk<18>096074074<2>085C0G<19>M0aM0bM0bM0c<18>C0G0FB<15>0mm<26>0GE0 \ > FD0DB0C90B8096C30<10>xgU<22>C30054<19>0ON0PO0RQ<2>0RQ0RQ0QP0PO<16>055500 \ > E33 > } > >cage3 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 25, 1998 t=0:00:45.65 > ; P200 MMX 1024x768 > ; colormap: prpl > ; cycling is good > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=OK-42 > function=tan/tan/sin/cotan passes=t > center-mag=0.158697/0.146235/11.80878/1/47.5 params=4/4/4/4 float=y > inside=zmag decomp=256 > colors=605605<7>Y0P`0Ra0Sb0T<9>000B08<32>`0Sa0Sb0Tb0Tb0Ua0T<33>403302000 \ > <20>VVQXXSYYT__V``W<7>llgnniookqqmrro<4>zzw<14>YYUWWRUUQ<13>222000000<82 \ > >302 > } > >mesh { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 25, 1998 t=0:00:39.71 > ; P200 MMX 1024x768 > ; colormap: lindaa02 > ; cycling is good > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=OK-42 > function=tan/tan/cotan/cotan passes=t > center-mag=0.158697/0.146235/11.80878/1/47.5 params=4/4/4/4 float=y > inside=zmag decomp=256 > colors=E0MCqcCrdDtf<33>121000202<5>F0O<7>202000110<31>zzy<32>000202<5>F0 \ > O<6>203000000<31>W00X00W00<31>000202<5>F0O<6>203000010<36>Cob > } > > >davides@pipeline.com >ds30@umail.umd.edu >Back up my hard drive? >How do I put it in reverse? > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Problem with DOS/Fractint - Help! Date: 26 May 1998 07:48:22 -0700 My thanks to all of you for your suggestions. I'll give them a try and let you know how it goes! Linda Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: (fractint) More pars and still need HELP! Date: 26 May 1998 07:35:38 -0700 We got partobat working (don't know how!), but my "spinner's" still out on sick leave. Any and all suggestions are welcome. Right now in order to rotate a fractal, I run it on my computer, save the par file, move the par file to Mike's computer (when he's not looking), rotate it, save the par, and then re-run the par on my computer. There's got to be an easier way to do this! Here are a few of my latest pars, generated in another variation of Mark "Bud" Christenson's gravijul formulas. Let me know how you like them, ok? Bye, Linda http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/ (last update 4/29/98) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519 (last update 5/22/98) http://www.toptown.com/innercircle/gumbycat/index.html (last update 3/20/98) -------------------------- 0598x040 { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 26, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:01:55.58 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.par formulaname=gravlla2 function=log/log/recip center-mag=+1.89641984457888500/-0.76221082591925530/415.7345/1/150 params=2.9/-1.875/4.125/0.15/3/0 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 viewwindows=1/.75/yes/0/0 colors=041<7>0930A30B40C5<14>AQNBRPBRO<10>3GA3F93F9<25>122121111000100<4 \ 0>u00w00v00<37>200000020050<11>los<13>SNCQL9PK8QK6<14>xn_<13>TN9<13>nru< \ 14>130<12>031 } 0598x041 { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 25, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:01:04.16 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.par formulaname=gravlla2 function=log/log/recip center-mag=+1.91926855169162500/-0.76618425036194390/109.4375/1/150 params=3/-2/4/0.15/3/0 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 viewwindows=1/.75/yes/0/0 colors=633533<2>000<14>T01V02W12X22<7>hB1jD0kE1<10>vTDxVFwTE<5>lG4jD2hC2 \ <5>X31V10U10<13>G1AE2BE2B<12>H2AH2AI19J19<11>W43X42Y41_50a50<4>kA0mB0mC0 \ <7>tM4uO5vP5wR6wQ6<5>rG5qF4pD4oB3mA3<4>c51a40_40X40<8>811502301000<13>eh \ lhkoilokmp<12>SNCQL9PJ7QK6<14>xn_<14>RL7<14>vvv<12>YYYWWWTTT<3>B99 } 0598x043 { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 25, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:03:25.04 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.par formulaname=gravlla2 function=log/log/recip center-mag=-2.12724247859296400/-0.47752450735897240/2948.113/1.2833/149 \ .999 params=2.875/1.5/4/0.15/3/0 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=A00<7>H00I00K00<14>a00c00b00<20>C00A00A00<9>100000000000<29>DAYEB \ _EBZ<24>224113113<7>212301313<3>76E87H99KBBM<20>mmz<23>22D00A008<2>00000 \ 0<22>SwpUzsTwq<17>243000000<4>311311311311411<10>911 } 0598x054 { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 25, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:00:41.36 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.par formulaname=gravlla2 function=log/log/recip center-mag=1.2018/0.721085/36.75514/1/150 params=2.875/1/3.5/0.15/3/0 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 viewwindows=1/.75/yes/0/0 colors=ehl<3>kmp<11>UPFSNCSNCTNCTNB<3>_TFaUGcWIeYK<7>xn_<11>YRDWPBVPBUPB \ <4>aYPc_SebV<7>vvv<12>YYYWWWTTT<3>B88633422211000010020<14>0910910A21B3< \ 19>SkSUmUTlT<19>3E52C43D44E46F5<13>mmU<12>AI87F65E53D41B3<21>SkSUmUTkT<1 \ 7>2C3091091<7>051041030020010000<12>bei } 0598x065 { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 25, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:00:41.53 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.par formulaname=gravlla2 function=log/log/recip center-mag=+1.08943856742050700/+0.74525663803550370/6044.829/1/149.998 params=2.9/1/4/0.15/3/0 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 viewwindows=1/.75/yes/0/0 colors=www<13>WWWTTTPOO<3>633422211000<14>0810910910910A2<20>SkSUmUTlT<1 \ 9>3E52C43D44E46F5<13>mmU<12>AI87F65E53D41B3<19>QhQRiRSkSUmUTkTSiS<16>2C3 \ 091091<6>061051041030020010000<13>ehlhkoilokmp<12>SNCQL9PJ7QK6<14>xn_<14 \ >RL7<14>vvv } 0598x068 { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 25, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:00:36.75 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.par formulaname=gravlla2 function=log/log/recip center-mag=+1.38719888926397600/+0.68292291792769080/61.63885/1/149.999 params=2.875/1/3.95/0.1334/2.75/0 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 viewwindows=1/.75/yes/0/0 colors=www<13>WWWTTTPOO<3>633422211000<14>0810910910910A2<20>SkSUmUTlT<1 \ 9>3E52C43D44E46F5<13>mmU<12>AI87F65E53D41B3<19>QhQRiRSkSUmUTkTSiS<16>2C3 \ 091091<6>061051041030020010000<13>ehlhkoilokmp<12>SNCQL9PJ7QK6<14>xn_<14 \ >RL7<14>vvv } 0598x072 { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 25, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:04:55.17 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.par formulaname=gravlla2 function=log/log/recip center-mag=-1.08525397478867000/-1.12716820854083700/431.7859/1/90 params=2/-2/-4/0.5/3/-0.5 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 viewwindows=1/.75/yes/0/0 colors=TOE<5>`_WaaZcdaefd<4>nru<14>050130200100000<13>0A40B40C50C6<13>AQ \ NBRPBRO<10>3GA3F93F9<25>122121111000100<40>u00w00v00<37>200000020050<11> \ los<12>TPFSNCSMARL8SM9UNAVOB<3>bWIdYKg_MjaO<5>xn_<11>YRDVPBTNARL9<2>RMB } 0598x074 { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 25, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:04:25.62 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.par formulaname=gravlla2 function=log/log/recip center-mag=-1.08505292294735100/-1.12726791956956300/4498.083/1.2244/90 params=2/-2/-4/0.5/3/-0.5 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=iH8<2>jI9kJ9lKAmKAnLA<7>uRDvRDuRD<27>O11M00N10<15>mJ9oLAoLB<34>mk \ pllrlkq<24>lMCkKAlMC<3>nTJoVLpYN<12>zxn<2>xshxqfwncvlauj_tgY<5>qZQpYPoWO \ nVNnTL<3>kNGjLEiLE<4>jRMjSOjUQkWS<12>rwtszwqxu<12>OQPMNMJKJGIH<5>3630400 \ 20000<6>H00J00K00<5>Q10S20S20<12>c94dA4eB5fC6gE7hG8 } 0598x077 { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 25, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:01:33.70 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gumbycat.par formulaname=gravlla2 function=log/log/recip center-mag=-0.72487425149956100/-1.27805888584123400/106.0229/1.252/119. \ 999 params=2/-2/-3/1/4/-4 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 decomp=256 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=lF2<6>rN9sOAtQBuSCvTDxVF<6>lG4jD2hC2<5>X31V10U10<13>G1AE2BE2B<12> \ H2AH2AI19J19<12>X42Y41_50a50<4>kA0mB0mC0<9>vP5wR6wQ6<7>pD4oB3mA3<4>c51a4 \ 0_40X40<8>811502301000<13>ehlhkoilokmp<12>SNCQL9PJ7QK6<14>xn_<14>RL7<14> \ vvv<12>YYYWWWTTT<3>B99633422211000<14>T01V02W12X22<7>hB1jD0kE1 } frm:gravlla2 { ; Linda Allison's 3-4-98 variation of the ; 1/25/98 generalized r^(-2) formula by Mark "Bud" ; Christenson z = c = pixel: w = fn1(z)^p1 z = fn3(p2/fn2(w*w)) + c |z| < p3 ------------------------ } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: (fractint) lsystems Date: 26 May 1998 09:57:34 -0400 (EDT) I haven't played with lsystems for a long time; now I'm going to write a quick one-off lsystem engine. I'd like it to be able to read fractint l-systems. I have some questions -- user-type questions, that should maybe be kept in the manual, things I will answer myself through experimentation: - Do both direction pointers start pointing to the right? - If I understand correctly, \ and / move a direction pointer that controls the direction of D and M -- right? And D and M use the same current-point that F and G do, right? - All the numbers are delimited by having non-numeric material follow, right? - Which way does | turn if the angle is odd? Left or right? - "Increase" and "Decrease" angle mean "turn left" and "turn right", right? - What exactly do [ and ] save and restore? I know they save the current +-FG state, the current position, and the current @ scale; do they also save the current \/DM state, the current ! state, and the current color? These can be determined by experimentation. These others would be more difficult: - Does the grammar require that the { fall on the same line as the lsystem name? - Is everything case-insensitive? - Are the ", sequences in FlowSnake accidental, or do they have meaning I do not comprehend? - Is it legal to include the Penrose tiles? Penrose recently sued a toilet-paper company for printing the Penrose tiles on their toilet paper. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Update Date: 26 May 1998 19:21:37 EDT In a message dated 98-05-26 16:53:55 EDT, you write: << http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractalintro.htm Angela aka wizzle >> Thanks Angela, I'm looking foreward to exploring more of your wonderfull maps. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 26 May 1998 08:43:49 -0400 Your welcome. If that doesn't work, I think there used to be a program called Display Doctor that fixed a lot of problems like this for me. Unfortunately, it also conflicted with my sound card, so I no longer use it. I don't remember where I downloaded it from(I dunno if it even exists anymore). Search for it on the web- it was shareware w/ a 30 day trial so if it doesn't fix it, you don't pay anything. -Good luck > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Colleen Johnson > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 9:43 PM > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (fractint)newbe needs video mode > > > Hi RJ > I have a floppy disk with the most recent drivers from the > manufacturer's home page. I'm going to have my hubbie look over > the files and see if there's a DOS driver in there that might > make a difference. But the modes don't work in Windows either. > There are a couple of other drivers or programs that came with > the video card that aren't installed on the computer that I'm > going to ask him to install and see if that helps. > Thanks! > Colleen > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)Legal Limit for par entries Date: 26 May 1998 19:49:13 EDT Greetings, Is there a limit to the number of entries fractint will recognize in a par file? Now that I'm seeing maps stored in par files { Angela ... so cool! its a faster load and a faster browse for sure } I'm wondering... how many will fit in one par? Thanks, Any and all input welcome. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Update Date: 26 May 1998 17:29:25 -0700 Did someone say colormaps?? <> Linda offered to let me grab some of her new maps to post at my website. Now that's an offer I can't refuse!! And I'd also love to do another set of everyone's favorite maps, now that I've learned to "par" the maps. Personally I mostly use .map files......and if you have any you'd like to share, please send them to me direct at wizzle@beachnet.com Identifying your newest maps with your name, i.e. wiza001.map....wiza002.map saves me the hastle of re-naming them. But any naming convention is fine as long as it doesn't duplicate what is already posted. ((thanks)) Angela SKarl52884 wrote: > > In a message dated 98-05-26 16:53:55 EDT, you write: > > << http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractalintro.htm > > Angela aka wizzle > >> > Thanks Angela, > I'm looking foreward to exploring more of your wonderfull maps. > Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Extended TripleMutant Formula Date: 26 May 1998 19:19:01 -0500 (CDT) comment { These two formulas are modifications of Oliver Klimek's TripleMutant formula. I wrote these modifications because I thought the basic concept Oliver came up with was very interesting but the resulting images didn't tell me enough about the dynamics of the iteration and I wanted to get some idea of the relative contribution that each of the functions was making to the initial and final value of z. This is just my first cut at extending Oliver's idea and I'm sure that somebody (like Sylvie) can improve upon it. Anyhow, this is what I've done in these two formulas: The fn1 function is represented by the color red. The fn2 function is represented by the color green. The fn3 function is represented by the color blue. I'll call the contributions that these functions make c1, c2 and c3. If c1 is the largest of the three: The color of the pixel will be in the range of magenta to yellow, with red in the center. If c2 > c3 the color will be shifted towards yellow; if c3 > c2 the color will be shifted towards magenta. If c2 is the largest of the three: The color of the pixel will be in the range of yellow to cyan, with green in the center. If c1 > c3 the color will be shifted towards yellow; if c3 > c1 the color will be shifted towards cyan. If c3 is the largest of the three: The color of the pixel will be in the range of cyan to magenta, with blue in the center. If c2 > c1 the color will be shifted towards cyan; if c1 > c2 the color will be shifted towards magenta. Although the images won't tell you anything exact about any particular pixel, you can learn quite a bit how things change from pixel to pixel. Suppose, for example, that a pixel is red-orange. This tells you that c1 is largest, c2 the next largest and c3 the smallest. If the pixel adjacent to this pixel is orange-yellow, it tells you that c2 has increased from the first pixel to the second. The Mutant_Start formula shows the relative contributions at the begining of the iteration. The coloring of the images that use this formula tend to be somewhat predictable. The Mutant_End formula shows the relative contributions at bailout which tend to be much more interesting. All of the pars use Oliver's original parameters and functions, except for Mut_end_02_zoom. The image created by this par shows that the patterns created by the areas of influence of the three functions exhibit a high degree of self-similarity. This is also the best-looking image from an artistic standpoint. In all the pars except this one I've reduced maxiter from 1500 to 500 for speed. Anyhow, this is a great idea you had, Oliver, and one that deserves to be expanded upon much more than I've done so far. Paul Carlson } frm:Mutant_Start { ; Oliver Klimek's TripleMutant formula ; as modified by Paul Carlson, 1998 w = z = bailout = iter = 0 c = pixel a1 = 1 / (|(pixel - p1)|^2) a2 = 1 / (|(pixel - p2)|^2) a3 = 1 / (|(pixel - p3)|^2) ; ; find contribution of each function k1 = a1 * fn1(w) k2 = a2 * fn2(w) k3 = a3 * fn3(w) ; ; find which function has largest contribution m1 = cabs(k1), m2 = cabs(k2), m3 = cabs(k3) IF (m1 < 1.0e-20) m1 = 1.0e-20 ENDIF IF (m2 < 1.0e-20) m2 = 1.0e-20 ENDIF IF (m3 < 1.0e-20) m3 = 1.0e-20 ENDIF maxm = m1 IF (m2 > m1) maxm = m2 IF (m3 > m2) maxm = m3 ENDIF ELSEIF (m3 > m1) maxm = m3 ENDIF : ; compute value of w w = w * w + c + k1 + k2 + k3 ; ; test for bailout IF (|w| > 8) bailout = 1 ; ; set z to colormap index IF (maxm == m1) z = 1 + 40 * (1 - m3/m1 + m2/m1) ELSEIF (maxm == m2) z = 81 + 40 * (1 - m1/m2 + m3/m2) ELSE z = 161 + 40 * (1 - m2/m3 + m1/m3) ENDIF ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 } frm:Mutant_End { ; Oliver Klimek's TripleMutant formula ; as modified by Paul Carlson, 1998 w = z = bailout = iter = 0 c = pixel a1 = 1 / (|(pixel - p1)|^2) a2 = 1 / (|(pixel - p2)|^2) a3 = 1 / (|(pixel - p3)|^2) : ; find contribution of each function k1 = a1 * fn1(w) k2 = a2 * fn2(w) k3 = a3 * fn3(w) ; ; compute value of w w = w * w + c + k1 + k2 + k3 ; ; test for bailout IF (|w| > 8) bailout = 1 ; ; find which function has largest contribution m1 = cabs(k1), m2 = cabs(k2), m3 = cabs(k3) IF (m1 < 1.0e-20) m1 = 1.0e-20 ENDIF IF (m2 < 1.0e-20) m2 = 1.0e-20 ENDIF IF (m3 < 1.0e-20) m3 = 1.0e-20 ENDIF maxm = m1 IF (m2 > m1) maxm = m2 IF (m3 > m2) maxm = m3 ENDIF ELSEIF (m3 > m1) maxm = m3 ENDIF ; ; set z to colormap index IF (maxm == m1) z = 1 + 40 * (1 - m3/m1 + m2/m1) ELSEIF (maxm == m2) z = 81 + 40 * (1 - m1/m2 + m3/m2) ELSE z = 161 + 40 * (1 - m2/m3 + m1/m3) ENDIF ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 } Mut_start_01 { ; The points are far away reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcmut.frm formulaname=mutant_start function=sqrt/cos/acosh center-mag=-0.604272/-0.00330507/0.7535615 params=10/10/-10/10/10/-10 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<37>z7Az79z88z98<36>zx1zz0yz0<38>2zQ0zR0zR<36>\ 0zy0zz0yz0xz<36>FIzGGzHGz<38>x1g000<13>000 } Mut_end_01 { ; The points are far away reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcmut.frm formulaname=mutant_end function=sqrt/cos/acosh center-mag=-0.604272/-0.00330507/0.7535615 params=10/10/-10/10/10/-10 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<37>z7Az79z88z98<36>zx1zz0yz0<38>2zQ0zR0zR<36>\ 0zy0zz0yz0xz<36>FIzGGzHGz<38>x1g000<13>000 } Mut_start_02 { ; The points are moving closer reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcmut.frm formulaname=mutant_start function=sqrt/cos/acosh center-mag=-0.604272/-0.00330507/0.7535615 params=2.5/2.5/-2.5/2.5/2.5/-2.5 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<37>z7Az79z88z98<36>zx1zz0yz0<38>2zQ0zR0zR<36>\ 0zy0zz0yz0xz<36>FIzGGzHGz<38>x1g000<13>000 } Mut_end_02 { ; The points are moving closer reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcmut.frm formulaname=mutant_end function=sqrt/cos/acosh center-mag=-0.604272/-0.00330507/0.7535615 params=2.5/2.5/-2.5/2.5/2.5/-2.5 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<37>z7Az79z88z98<36>zx1zz0yz0<38>2zQ0zR0zR<36>\ 0zy0zz0yz0xz<36>FIzGGzHGz<38>x1g000<13>000 } Mut_end_02_zoom { ; zoom into Mut_end_02 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcmut.frm formulaname=mutant_end function=sqrt/cos/acosh center-mag=+0.31940862426200290/+0.03514300035272705/176.0658 params=2.5/2.5/-2.5/2.5/2.5/-2.5 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<37>z7Az79z88z98<34>zu1zw1zx1zz0yz0wz1<37>2zQ0z\ R0zR<36>0zy0zz0yz0xz<36>FIzGGzHGz<38>x1g000<13>000 } Mut_start_03 { ; They're almost there ! reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcmut.frm formulaname=mutant_start function=sqrt/cos/acosh center-mag=-1.20921/0.115591/0.4825573 params=1/1/-1/1/1/-1 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<37>z7Az79z88z98<36>zx1zz0yz0<38>2zQ0zR0zR<36>\ 0zy0zz0yz0xz<36>FIzGGzHGz<38>x1g000<13>000 } Mut_end_03 { ; They're almost there ! reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcmut.frm formulaname=mutant_end function=sqrt/cos/acosh center-mag=-1.20921/0.115591/0.4825573 params=1/1/-1/1/1/-1 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<37>z7Az79z88z98<36>zx1zz0yz0<38>2zQ0zR0zR<36>\ 0zy0zz0yz0xz<36>FIzGGzHGz<38>x1g000<13>000 } Mut_start_04 { ; Now this an interesting tip reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcmut.frm formulaname=mutant_start function=asin/sqr/asinh center-mag=-1.632/-0.00507455/3.637199 params=1/1/0.7/1/1/0.2 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<37>z7Az79z88z98<36>zx1zz0yz0<38>2zQ0zR0zR<36>\ 0zy0zz0yz0xz<36>FIzGGzHGz<38>x1g000<13>000 } Mut_end_04 { ; Now this an interesting tip reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcmut.frm formulaname=mutant_end function=asin/sqr/asinh center-mag=-1.632/-0.00507455/3.637199 params=1/1/0.7/1/1/0.2 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<37>z7Az79z88z98<36>zx1zz0yz0<38>2zQ0zR0zR<36>\ 0zy0zz0yz0xz<36>FIzGGzHGz<38>x1g000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mars Magus Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 26 May 1998 09:05:34 EDT okay.. I wanted to avoid getting into this, but the morning waking can do odd things to thought processes... just how many sides did those dice have, I wonder? ...or perhaps in how many dimensions? Doh. :) Chris (what were they _made_ of, since there was no firmament? Plastics are still several thousand years away at that point!) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: exile@tezcat.com (exile) Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 26 May 1998 19:19:56 -0500 } From: "Damien M. Jones" } Kragen, } } - Does anyone have suggestions about what vector formats would be more } - widely readable by Win95 users? } } Windows metafile (.WMF). Not sure where you can find out how to create } such a file without the Windows API, though. My experience with .WMF has been pretty awful... maybe .ai? {}Rick __ Please... Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. {Kelly LeBrock} Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Hine" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 26 May 1998 21:40:39 -0400 In the morning Mars mused: >just how many sides did those dice have, I wonder? >...or perhaps in how many dimensions? Well, if God is a perfect fractal, perhaps they were fractal dice. Such dice would have an infinite number of sides, though not each side would have to be the same size. This would make certain rolls more likely, though the chance of any particular roll occurring would always be 1 to infinity! > Chris corresponded: >(what were they _made_ of, since there was no firmament? Plastics are still >several thousand years away at that point!) Well, when you turn Godel's Theorem inside out and find it's negative square root, you get a recipie for these confectionary dice... they're quite heavenly, actually. Please direct flames to me personally, thanks! :) Jason Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: (fractint) FRMs & PARs Date: 26 May 1998 22:12:51 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BD88F3.6D07CC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a way to tell Fractint to look in multiple directories for = frm/par files? I keep mine sorted in directories, and every time I load = a par in need of a formula, it complains. I have a line in my = sstools.ini file for one directory, but I want to search multiple, so = can I make a list, with semicolons, or something like that? Thanks Peter Gavin // End transmission ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BD88F3.6D07CC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BD88F3.6D07CC60-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 26 May 1998 22:14:34 -0500 Rick, - My experience with .WMF has been pretty awful... maybe .ai? .AI (Adobe Illustrator) is only readable by higher-end apps. It was my understanding (I could easily be wrong here) that it's basically a form of PostScript, i.e. an EPS (Encapsulated PostScript) file. WMF is decent for very simple vector stuff, but not for anything terribly fancy. I don't think L-systems will get that fancy. WMF may suck in general, but I'd suspect it can be read by more software than AI, and that's what Kragen asked for. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 26 May 1998 21:35:43 -0500 Damien M. Jones wrote: > > Kragen wrote: > > > > Does anyone have suggestions about what vector formats > > would be more widely readable by Win95 users? > > Windows metafile (.WMF). Not sure where you can find out > how to create such a file without the Windows API, though. > One of the best references on file formats for images is: Encyclopedia of Graphics File Formats, 2nd edition by James D. Murray and William vanRyper O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. -- ISBN: 1-56592-161-5 http://www.ora.com/ There are detailed descriptions on every byte of various record formats. Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kivryn_H Subject: (fractint) Printing documentation Date: 26 May 1998 22:27:30 -0500 Hi all, I hope someone will not mind sending me a quick e-mail to answer my question. I get the digest and wouldn't mind getting the answer tonight so I can start printing. My question, how can I print the documentation out for Fractint? I don't see a doc. file. Thanks for helping. Kivryn Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) New fractal coloring option? Date: 26 May 1998 23:26:46 -0600 I would be interested to know if anyone can duplicate the images at http://homepages.strath.ac.uk/~nau96158/ using Fractint's formula parser. Also the pseudocode looks strange to me. Does colour need to be calculated inside the loop? Is this sufficiently different to deserve being added to fractint? Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Printing documentation Date: 26 May 1998 23:30:41 -0500 Kivryn_H wrote: > > I hope someone will not mind sending me a quick e-mail to answer > my question. I get the digest and wouldn't mind getting the > answer tonight so I can start printing. My question, how can I > print the documentation out for Fractint? I don't see a doc. file. > As of version 16.0, all Fractint documentation is available online. Run Fractint and press F1 for the main help index. If you want a full documentation file (nicely formatted with table of contents and cross-references by page number), you can easily create one. For the MS-DOS version, type the following command at the DOS prompt: fractint makedoc The above command will overwrite the file you are now reading (fractint.doc) with the full Fractint documentation. For the Unix version, type: make doc Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mars Magus Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 27 May 1998 00:36:37 EDT There's also a thought here that as long as you're doing vector formats, and especially concerning 95 and up, why aren't we dealing with err, the bitmap of vectors.. .DXF. You can slice (decompile) a lot of design programs to get a DXF parser, the output, of course, will vary by program... However, it can be ported a *lot* of different ways from there. (Yeah, originally I'm a drafter, sue me :) Anything on that orbit plotting thing? Paul? :) man I wish I had something cool to post. ::praying to the Goddess that Gives Us Gigabytes:: Chris Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) New fractal coloring option? Date: 26 May 1998 22:53:09 -0700 (MST) Tim, These images look like some stuff that was posted before, by (engage brain failure--my apologies), and I did some modifications. I haven't tried Iain's code, but it looks something like this: pseudo-iain { ; use decomp=256 zc=pixel, c=p1, bailout=real(p2), range=imag(p2), iter=1: iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+c, test=fn1(zc) if(testbailout)||(iter==maxit)) iter=-1 z=cos(t)+flip(sin(t)) end if iter>0 } Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com On Tue, 26 May 1998, Tim Wegner wrote: > I would be interested to know if anyone can duplicate the images at > > http://homepages.strath.ac.uk/~nau96158/ > > using Fractint's formula parser. Also the pseudocode looks strange to me. > Does colour need to be calculated inside the loop? > > Is this sufficiently different to deserve being added to fractint? > > Tim > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Printing documentation Date: 26 May 1998 23:36:00 -0500 -----Original Message----- >Hi all, > >I hope someone will not mind sending me a quick e-mail to answer my >question. I get the digest and wouldn't mind getting the answer tonight >so I can start printing. My question, how can I print the documentation >out for Fractint? I don't see a doc. file. Thanks for helping. > >Kivryn > Kivryn, Open Fractint, hit the F1 key twice. This should get you to the Main Help File. At the bottom of the right hand column is a reference to documentation. Highlight it and hit enter which will bring up another screen about documentation. Toward the bottom, the question is ask, "Generate Fractint Doc now?" I believe the answer here is obvious. Hope this answers your question. Earl Simpson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Re: New fractal coloring option? Date: 27 May 1998 01:45:50 -0500 (CDT) I apologize if this ends up on the list twice, but the first time I sent it I noticed just as I sent it that the address was different. Tim, >I would be interested to know if anyone can duplicate the images at > >http://homepages.strath.ac.uk/~nau96158/ > >using Fractint's formula parser. Image one looks like it was done with my Bubbles rendering method. Image two looks like it was done with my 3D Stalks rendering method. Both of these methods (and many more) I've implemented with Fractint formulas. >Also the pseudocode looks strange to me. Me too. It's not very good pseudocode. >Does colour need to be calculated inside the loop? Yes, but only once, using a bailout test inside the loop. Here is my Bubbles formula and a couple of pars: frm:Bubbles_Julia_Mset {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ;**************************************************** ; Always use floating point math and outside=summ. ; ; Parameters: ; ; p1 = if both real(p1) and imag(p1) are zero ; do Mset, otherwise do Julia set. ; real(p2) = maximum contour of minimum sqrt(|w|) ; (this is the outside edge of the bubbles). ; imag(p2) = Value of |w| at bailout. ; real(p3) = number of color ranges. ; imag(p3) = number of colors in each color range. ; ; Note that the equation variable is w, not z. Always ; initialize z to zero. ;**************************************************** IF (real(p1) == 0 && imag(p1) == 0) w = 0 c = pixel ELSE w = pixel c = p1 ENDIF z = 0 bailout = 0 iter = 0 range_num = 0 max_w = imag(p2) ;**************************************************** ; In the accompanying par files, bubsjul1 and 2.par, ; we have 2 color ranges with 125 colors in each range ; for a total of 250 colors. The first range starts at ; color 1. ;**************************************************** num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) ;**************************************************** ; Real(p2) is the largest value of contours that will ; be plotted. Typical values are 0.05 to 0.25. ;**************************************************** max_min_w = real(p2) min_w = 1.0e20: ;**************************************************** ; The equation being iterated. ; This example uses the standard Mandelbrot set equation. ;**************************************************** w = w * w + c ;**************************************************** ; Save the smallest value of sqrt(|w|). ;**************************************************** temp = sqrt(|w|) IF (temp < min_w) min_w = temp save_range = range_num ENDIF ;**************************************************** ; If the orbit point exceeds the maximum value, set z to ; the index into the colormap and set the bailout flag. ;**************************************************** IF (|w| > max_w) IF (min_w < max_min_w) range_index = (min_w / max_min_w) * (colors_in_range - 1) z = range_index + save_range * colors_in_range + 1 ELSE z = 0 ENDIF bailout = 1 ENDIF ;**************************************************** ; Cycle through the range numbers (0 thru num_ranges - 1) ; With two color ranges, even iterations use color ; range 0, odd iterations use color range 1. ;**************************************************** range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF ;**************************************************** ; Since we are using outside=summ, we have to subtract ; the number of iterations from z. ;**************************************************** iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter ;**************************************************** ; Finally, we test for bailout ;**************************************************** bailout == 0 && |w| < max_w } bubsjul1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson.par formulaname=bubbles_julia_mset passes=t center-mag=0.00981534/2.22045e-016/0.8503401 params=-0.746410388/0.184309007/0.188/16/2/125 float=y maxiter=10000 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0zVz<123>L5L000<3>000 } bubsjul2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlson.par formulaname=bubbles_julia_mset passes=t center-mag=-0.00009916023966658/-0.00019030381371508/29\ 027.04/1/-109.999 params=0.289631409419512/0.013316315158669/0.2/16/2/125 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=255 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>WC0zzz<123>OOO000<3>000 } The 3D Stalks method is somewhat similar. >Is this sufficiently different to deserve being added to fractint? It's certainly different. And it would be considerably faster as a builtin method. And you wouldn't have to worry about "stealing" the method from that web page - I developed the method in 1993. I think that he probably got the methods from one of my web sites where I describe them briefly. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Printing documentation Date: 26 May 1998 23:36:00 -0500 -----Original Message----- >Hi all, > >I hope someone will not mind sending me a quick e-mail to answer my >question. I get the digest and wouldn't mind getting the answer tonight >so I can start printing. My question, how can I print the documentation >out for Fractint? I don't see a doc. file. Thanks for helping. > >Kivryn > Kivryn, Open Fractint, hit the F1 key twice. This should get you to the Main Help File. At the bottom of the right hand column is a reference to documentation. Highlight it and hit enter which will bring up another screen about documentation. Toward the bottom, the question is ask, "Generate Fractint Doc now?" I believe the answer here is obvious. Hope this answers your question. Earl Simpson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 26 May 1998 13:48:45 -0700 Kragen.... I think most vector based programs also can read the Photoshop standard. However, VERY few folks have vector graphics programs. Angela aka wizzle Damien M. Jones wrote: > > Kragen, > > - Does anyone have suggestions about what vector formats would be more > - widely readable by Win95 users? > > Windows metafile (.WMF). Not sure where you can find out how to create > such a file without the Windows API, though. > > Damien M. Jones \\ > dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 27 May 1998 08:37:44 +1200 At 13:14 26/05/98 -0400, Kragen wrote: > >Does anyone have suggestions about what vector formats would be more >widely readable by Win95 users? After all, almost half the PC's out >there have Win95 on them, and most of the other half have something >related. PostScript and HPGL just don't cut it in that world. > DXF might count, though I'm not sure just how widely it's used. Or maybe Adobe Illustrator .ai format. But I don't think that PostScript doesn't cut it - Win95 users can use GhostScript, after all (which is actually more effective than many PostScript printers!). Be sure to let us know when you've got it ported to C! :-D Morgan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) More pars and still need HELP!RotationZF6! Date: 27 May 1998 06:06:11 EDT In a message dated 98-05-27 03:00:17 EDT, you write: << but my "spinner's" still out on sick leave. Any and all suggestions are welcome. Right now in order to rotate a fractal, I run it on my computer, save the par file, move the par file to Mike's computer (when he's not looking), rotate it, save the par, and then re-run the par on my computer. There's got to be an easier way to do this! >> Hi linda, Hit " Z " then F6 and look at the item called rotation right above skew angel. Its calculated in degrees of + and -. A value of 180 will flip you upside down. I forget which is counter clockwise or clockwise...i.e. changes of +45 or -45 because I usually just fire in the values untill I see where I'm at and then go from there but a little experiomentation will show you all you need to know about this numerical rotation. The results are exactly the same as the zoom box rotation except one has to sometimes take a little longer to get it there by useing numbers as opposed to pure over the thumb sight. Enjoy! Steve { hope you get it fixed soon :-) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mars Magus Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 27 May 1998 00:36:37 EDT There's also a thought here that as long as you're doing vector formats, and especially concerning 95 and up, why aren't we dealing with err, the bitmap of vectors.. .DXF. You can slice (decompile) a lot of design programs to get a DXF parser, the output, of course, will vary by program... However, it can be ported a *lot* of different ways from there. (Yeah, originally I'm a drafter, sue me :) Anything on that orbit plotting thing? Paul? :) man I wish I had something cool to post. ::praying to the Goddess that Gives Us Gigabytes:: Chris Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Printing documentation Date: 26 May 1998 23:30:41 -0500 Kivryn_H wrote: > > I hope someone will not mind sending me a quick e-mail to answer > my question. I get the digest and wouldn't mind getting the > answer tonight so I can start printing. My question, how can I > print the documentation out for Fractint? I don't see a doc. file. > As of version 16.0, all Fractint documentation is available online. Run Fractint and press F1 for the main help index. If you want a full documentation file (nicely formatted with table of contents and cross-references by page number), you can easily create one. For the MS-DOS version, type the following command at the DOS prompt: fractint makedoc The above command will overwrite the file you are now reading (fractint.doc) with the full Fractint documentation. For the Unix version, type: make doc Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) New fractal coloring option? Date: 26 May 1998 23:26:46 -0600 I would be interested to know if anyone can duplicate the images at http://homepages.strath.ac.uk/~nau96158/ using Fractint's formula parser. Also the pseudocode looks strange to me. Does colour need to be calculated inside the loop? Is this sufficiently different to deserve being added to fractint? Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 27 May 1998 08:05:57 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 26 May 1998, Angela Wilczynski wrote: > I think most vector based programs also can read the Photoshop standard. > However, VERY few folks have vector graphics programs. The Mac comes with one (MacDraw); I think there's a MS-Windows equivalent (Windows Draw?); I know both Word and WordPerfect have vector drawings built in; and PowerPoint is essentially a vector-graphics program with slideshow abilities. (Well, the latest version is trying to be MacroMedia Director, too :) Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: (fractint) L-Systems progress Date: 27 May 1998 08:12:58 -0400 (EDT) I've implemented reading formulas from fractint.l. I've looked up .wmf. It seems Microsoft used to have info on their web site, but no longer does. I have HPGL and PostScript output now, both of which have been tested somewhat; I've still only implemented the "F", "+", and "-" commands, though. A surprising number of the fractals in fractint.l look like they should work with just f, +, and -: koch1 koch2 koch3 koch6 dragon peano1 flowsnake quartet sierpinski1 koch4 hilbert peano3 koch5 sierpinski2 sierpinskisquare quadkoch fass1 fass2 quadgosper curve1 curve2 curve3 curve4 colortrianggasket (but no color!) dragoncurve square kochcurve I haven't tried all of them -- koch1, koch3, koch6, dragon, and flowsnake are the only ones I've tried so far, in fact. So I might have made a mistake. These don't look like they should work: cesaro doublecesaro cantordust snowflake2 snowflakecolor island1 island2 snowflake1 snowflake3 tree1 peano2 plant07 plant08 sierpinski3 pentagram plant01 plant02 plant03 plant04 plant05 plant06 plant09 plant10 plant11 leaf1 leaf2 bush mytree penrose1 colorpenrose1 penrose2 penrose3 penrose4 doublepenrose sphinx pentaplexity circulartile Feel free to try it out if you have Perl and some way of seeing HPGL or PostScript output: . Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems progress Date: 27 May 1998 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 27 May 1998, Kragen wrote: > I have HPGL and PostScript output now, both of which have been tested > somewhat; I've still only implemented the "F", "+", and "-" commands, > though. Now I've got "[" and "]", too. So 48 of the 64 formulae in fractint.l will work now (although there's still no color.) > Feel free to try it out if you have Perl and some way of seeing HPGL or > PostScript output: . Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) More pars and still need HELP! Date: 27 May 1998 08:48:44 -0700 I'm sorry! I goofed in the frm file I posted yesterday. The closing } was AFTER the ------end------, not before it. The last entry should be: frm:gravlla2 { ; Linda Allison's 3-4-98 variation of the ; 1/25/98 generalized r^(-2) formula by Mark "Bud" ; Christenson z = c = pixel: w = fn1(z)^p1 z = fn3(p2/fn2(w*w)) + c |z| < p3 } An update on my 'puter problems. Following Chris's suggestions on using the right mouse button, and Steve's suggestion on using the F6 key, I can rotate my images, now. Sort of. It's not as easy as using the Ctrl pad + or -. But it works. So it has taken the edge off of my panic! Now I can work with my system as time permits to get the keyboard commands to work right because I have something to fall back on. Thanks, guys! And thanks again to all of you who made suggestions! Linda Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aldo Calpini" Subject: (fractint) Fractint on NT... Date: 27 May 1998 18:54:49 +0200 Hi all, I'm running fractint 19.6 on a NT Server 4.0 box with a Matrox Millennium II card (4 MB). I have already installed the latest drivers from Matrox (3.20.055) and the latest BIOS (1.3), but still no VESA mode works, and the maximum resolution I can obtain is a poor 360x480x256 tweaked VGA... Is there an updated fractint.cfg with a better video mode for my card? BTW, I can't switch to Windows 95 and I don't want to use the Windows version of fractint... Thanx in advance. Bye, Aldo Calpini "Out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall, ...nothing but Net." -- (Author unknown) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint on NT... Date: 27 May 1998 10:15:59 -0700 Aldo... Fractint won't run properly under NT. You will have to exit to DOS, run Fractint under DOS and then all should be well. I have a Matrox Millennium II card and it works perfectly with Fractint. Angela aka wizzle Aldo Calpini wrote: > > Hi all, > I'm running fractint 19.6 on a NT Server 4.0 box with a Matrox Millennium II > card (4 MB). I have already installed the latest drivers from Matrox > (3.20.055) and the latest BIOS (1.3), but still no VESA mode works, and the > maximum resolution I can obtain is a poor 360x480x256 tweaked VGA... > > Is there an updated fractint.cfg with a better video mode for my card? > BTW, I can't switch to Windows 95 and I don't want to use the Windows > version of fractint... > > Thanx in advance. > > Bye, > Aldo Calpini > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aldo Calpini" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint on NT... Date: 27 May 1998 19:07:54 +0200 Hi Angela, Angela Wilczynski wrote: >Aldo... > >Fractint won't run properly under NT. You will have to exit to DOS, >run Fractint under DOS and then all should be well. I have a Matrox >Millennium II card and it works perfectly with Fractint. there's no DOS partition on my PC... I feel very sad :-( Bye, Aldo Calpini "Out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall, ...nothing but Net." -- (Author unknown) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint on NT... Date: 27 May 1998 13:13:01 -0400 Aldo Calpini wrote: >>> I'm running fractint 19.6 on a NT Server 4.0 box with a Matrox Millennium II card (4 MB). I have already installed the latest drivers from Matrox (3.20.055) and the latest BIOS (1.3), but still no VESA mode works, and the maximum resolution I can obtain is a poor 360x480x256 tweaked VGA... Is there an updated fractint.cfg with a better video mode for my card? BTW, I can't switch to Windows 95 and I don't want to use the Windows version of fractint...<<< Aldo, You cannot run fractint or any other DOS SVGA program under Windows NT. This has nothing to do with fractint or your video card. I have the original Matrox Millenium and have the same problem. There is a document on Microsoft's Knowledge Base that plainly says NT does not support DOS SVGA. The only thing you can do is set up a dual boot system with DOS or OS/2. Fractint runs fine in OS/2 with the Millenium. Nick Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint on NT... Date: 27 May 1998 13:20:27 -0400 Angela aka wizzle wrote: >>>Fractint won't run properly under NT. You will have to exit to DOS, run Fractint under DOS and then all should be well.<<< Angela, You cannot 'exit' to DOS from NT . You can, however, set up multiple partitions and a boot manager (like System Commander) and boot to real DOS, Windows 95, OS/2, Linux, etc. This is a pain however. Nick Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aldo Calpini" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint on NT... Date: 27 May 1998 19:35:32 +0200 nick.grasso@hrads.com wrote: > >Aldo, > >You cannot run fractint or any other DOS SVGA program under Windows NT. >This has nothing to do with fractint or your video card. I have the >original Matrox Millenium and have the same problem. There is a >document on Microsoft's Knowledge Base that plainly says NT does not >support DOS SVGA. Ok, that's the end of my hope... >The only thing you can do is set up a dual boot system with DOS or >OS/2. >Fractint runs fine in OS/2 with the Millenium. OS/2??? Are you kidding? :-) PS. venezia { ; looks like the traditional boats used in Venice, Italy reset=1800 type=mandphoenix corners=-1.242422/0.6777591/-1.3452232/-0.59510255 params=0.10000000000000001/0.80000000000000004 colors=000N8k<18>9Bw000<73>e`JfaKfcK<8>apJ<5>zz0<20>Oei<2>LLYJEUI7QG0LH1\ M<39>xxyzzzzzz<62>N7jU7e<8>N8k } Bye, Aldo Calpini "Out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall, ...nothing but Net." -- (Author unknown) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: (fractint) PAR: Topography_Problem & Wide_Area_Network Date: 27 May 1998 13:37:19 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BD8974.9245C6E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01BD8974.924D6800" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01BD8974.924D6800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here are a couple PARs. I found them while messing around with Paul = Carlson's 'Truncated_Stalks' formula. I tacked the formula at the end, = too. 'Topography_Problem' reminded me of one of those problems with a = bunch of nodes connected by a set of lines. 'Wide_Area_Network', well, = that's self explanatory. Peter Gavin // End transmission ////////////////////////////////////////// // Begin PAR File Topography_Problem { ; 0h:11m:41s, Pentium 60 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfrac_ml.frm formulaname=3DTruncated_Stalks passes=3Dt center-mag=3D-0.620398/1.12907/2.403846 params=3D0/0/0.0625/16/6/40 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm symmetry=3Dnone = colors=3D000zzz<7>z7zz0zx0x<28>000zzz<6>mmzkkzjjx<29>000zzz<7>xs7<30>000z= z\ = z<6>z88z00x00<29>000zzz<7>0So<30>000zzz<6>z_8zW0xV0<28>320000000<12>000k\= kk cyclerange=3D1/240 } Wide_Area_Network { ; 0h:05m:17s, Pentium 60 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfrac_ml.frm formulaname=3DTruncated_Stalks passes=3Dt center-mag=3D-0.575937/0.839447/15.21422 params=3D0/0/0.0625/16/6/40 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm symmetry=3Dnone = colors=3D000zzz<7>z7zz0zx0x<28>000zzz<6>mmzkkzjjx<29>000zzz<7>xs7<30>000z= z\ = z<6>z88z00x00<29>000zzz<7>0So<30>000zzz<6>z_8zW0xV0<28>320000000<12>000k\= kk cyclerange=3D1/240 } frm:Truncated_Stalks {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ;**************************************************** ; Always use floating point math and outside=3Dsumm. ; ; Parameters: ; p1 =3D if both real(p1) and imag(p1) equal 0 do Mset, ; otherwise do Julia set ; real(p2) =3D a factor controlling the width of the stalks ; imag(p2) =3D a factor controlling the length of the stalks ; real(p3) =3D number of color ranges ; imag(p3) =3D number of colors in each color range ; ; Note that the equation variable is w, not z. Always ; initialize z to zero. ;**************************************************** IF (real(p1) =3D=3D 0 && imag(p1) =3D=3D 0) w =3D 0 c =3D pixel ELSE w =3D pixel c =3D p1 ENDIF z =3D 0 bailout =3D 0 iter =3D 0 range_num =3D 0 ;**************************************************** ; In the accompanying par files, trunspr1 and 2.par, ; we have 2 color ranges with 125 colors in each range ; for a total of 250 colors. The first range starts at ; color 1. Pixels will use color 0 when |w| < 1000. ; Other values can be used here as long as the product ; of num_ranges times colors_in_range is less than 255. ; Color 0 is reserved for the background color and color ; 255 can be used for the inside color. ;**************************************************** num_ranges =3D real(p3) colors_in_range =3D imag(p3) ;**************************************************** ; Real(p2) controls the width of the stalks. ; Imag(p2) controls the length of the stalks. ;**************************************************** stalk_width =3D real(p2) stalk_length =3D imag(p2) index_factor =3D (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width: ;**************************************************** ; The equation being iterated. Almost any equation ; that can be expressed in terms of a complex variable ; and a complex constant will work with this method. ;**************************************************** w =3D c * (1 - w) * (1 + w) / (1 + w * w) ;**************************************************** ; Find which axis the orbit point is closest to. ;**************************************************** IF (abs(real(w)) <=3D abs(imag(w))) min_dist_to_axis =3D abs(real(w)) ELSE min_dist_to_axis =3D abs(imag(w)) ENDIF ;**************************************************** ; If the orbit point is within a stalk width of an axis, ; and the value of |w| is less than the stalk length, then ; set z to the index into the colormap and set the bailout flag. ;**************************************************** IF (min_dist_to_axis < stalk_width && |w| < stalk_length && iter > = 0) z =3D index_factor * min_dist_to_axis + range_num * = colors_in_range + 1 bailout =3D 1 ENDIF ;**************************************************** ; Cycle through the range numbers (0 thru num_ranges - 1) ; With two color ranges, even iterations use color ; range 0, odd iterations use color range 1. ;**************************************************** range_num =3D range_num + 1 IF (range_num =3D=3D num_ranges) range_num =3D 0 ENDIF ;**************************************************** ; Since we are using outside=3Dsumm, we have to subtract ; the number of iterations from z. ;**************************************************** iter =3D iter + 1 z =3D z - iter ;**************************************************** ; Finally, we test for bailout ;**************************************************** bailout =3D=3D 0 && |w| < 1000 } ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01BD8974.924D6800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here=20 are a couple PARs. I found them while messing around with Paul = Carlson's=20 'Truncated_Stalks' formula. I tacked the formula at the end, = too. =20 'Topography_Problem' reminded me of one of those problems with a bunch = of nodes=20 connected by a set of lines. 'Wide_Area_Network', well, that's = self=20 explanatory.

Peter = Gavin
<pgavin@mindspring.com>
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// Begin PAR File

Topography_Problem { ; 0h:11m:41s, = Pentium=20 60
reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula = formulafile=3Dfrac_ml.frm
=20 formulaname=3DTruncated_Stalks passes=3Dt
=20 center-mag=3D-0.620398/1.12907/2.403846 = params=3D0/0/0.0625/16/6/40
=20 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm = symmetry=3Dnone
=20 colors=3D000zzz<7>z7zz0zx0x<28>000zzz<6>mmzkkzjjx<29= >000zzz<7>xs7<30>000zz\
=20 z<6>z88z00x00<29>000zzz<7>0So<30>000zzz<6>z= _8zW0xV0<28>320000000<12>000k\
=20 kk cyclerange=3D1/240
}

Wide_Area_Network { ; = 0h:05m:17s, Pentium=20 60
reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula = formulafile=3Dfrac_ml.frm
=20 formulaname=3DTruncated_Stalks passes=3Dt
=20 center-mag=3D-0.575937/0.839447/15.21422 = params=3D0/0/0.0625/16/6/40
=20 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm = symmetry=3Dnone
=20 colors=3D000zzz<7>z7zz0zx0x<28>000zzz<6>mmzkkzjjx<29= >000zzz<7>xs7<30>000zz\
=20 z<6>z88z00x00<29>000zzz<7>0So<30>000zzz<6>z= _8zW0xV0<28>320000000<12>000k\
=20 kk cyclerange=3D1/240
}

frm:Truncated_Stalks {; Copyright = (c) Paul W.=20 Carlson, 1998
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; ;=20 Always use floating point math and outside=3Dsumm.
    = ;
    ; Parameters:
    = ;  =20 p1       =3D if both real(p1) and imag(p1) = equal 0=20 do Mset,
   =20 ;            = =20 otherwise do Julia set
    ;   real(p2) =3D = a factor=20 controlling the width of the stalks
    ;   = imag(p2)=20 =3D a factor controlling the length of the stalks
   =20 ;   real(p3) =3D number of color ranges
   =20 ;   imag(p3) =3D number of colors in each color=20 range
    ;
    ; Note that the = equation=20 variable is w, not z. Always
    ; initialize z = to=20 zero.
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; IF=20 (real(p1) =3D=3D 0 && imag(p1) =3D=3D=20 0)
        w =3D=20 0
        c =3D = pixel
   =20 ELSE
        w =3D=20 pixel
        c =3D = p1
   =20 ENDIF
    z =3D 0
    bailout =3D=20 0
    iter =3D 0
    range_num =3D=20 0
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; ; In=20 the accompanying par files, trunspr1 and 2.par,
    ; = we have=20 2 color ranges with 125 colors in each range
    ; for = a total=20 of 250 colors. The first range starts at
    ; color = 1. =20 Pixels will use color 0 when |w| < 1000.
    ; = Other values=20 can be used here as long as the product
    ; of = num_ranges=20 times colors_in_range is less than 255.
    ; Color 0 = is=20 reserved for the background color and color
    ; 255 = can be=20 used for the inside color.
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p;=20 num_ranges =3D real(p3)
    colors_in_range =3D=20 imag(p3)
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; ;=20 Real(p2) controls the width of the stalks.
    ; = Imag(p2)=20 controls the length of the stalks.
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p;=20 stalk_width =3D real(p2)
    stalk_length =3D=20 imag(p2)
    index_factor =3D (colors_in_range - 1) /=20 stalk_width:
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; ;=20 The equation being iterated. Almost any = equation
    ;=20 that can be expressed in terms of a complex = variable
    ; and=20 a complex constant will work with this method.
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; w =3D=20 c * (1 - w) * (1 + w) / (1 + w * w)
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; ;=20 Find which axis the orbit point is closest to.
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; IF=20 (abs(real(w)) <=3D = abs(imag(w)))
       =20 min_dist_to_axis =3D abs(real(w))
   =20 ELSE
        min_dist_to_axis =3D=20 abs(imag(w))
    ENDIF
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; ; If=20 the orbit point is within a stalk width of an = axis,
    ; and=20 the value of |w| is less than the stalk length, = then
    ; set=20 z to the index into the colormap and set the bailout = flag.
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; IF=20 (min_dist_to_axis < stalk_width && |w| < stalk_length = &&=20 iter > 0)
        z =3D = index_factor *=20 min_dist_to_axis + range_num * colors_in_range +=20 1
        bailout =3D=20 1
    ENDIF
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; ;=20 Cycle through the range numbers (0 thru num_ranges - = 1)
    ;=20 With two color ranges, even iterations use color
    ; = range=20 0, odd iterations use color range 1.
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p;=20 range_num =3D range_num + 1
    IF (range_num =3D=3D=20 num_ranges)
        range_num =3D=20 0
    ENDIF
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; ;=20 Since we are using outside=3Dsumm, we have to = subtract
    ; the=20 number of iterations from z.
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; iter=20 =3D iter + 1
    z =3D z - iter
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p; ;=20 Finally, we test for bailout
   =20 ;****************************************************
  &nbs= p;=20 bailout =3D=3D 0 && |w| < = 1000
}
------=_NextPart_001_0002_01BD8974.924D6800-- ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BD8974.9245C6E0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="98-05-27.PAR" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="98-05-27.PAR" Topography_Problem { ; 0h:11m:41s, Pentium 60 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfrac_ml.frm formulaname=3DTruncated_Stalks passes=3Dt center-mag=3D-0.620398/1.12907/2.403846 params=3D0/0/0.0625/16/6/40 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm symmetry=3Dnone = colors=3D000zzz<7>z7zz0zx0x<28>000zzz<6>mmzkkzjjx<29>000zzz<7>xs7<30>000z= z\ = z<6>z88z00x00<29>000zzz<7>0So<30>000zzz<6>z_8zW0xV0<28>320000000<12>000k\= kk cyclerange=3D1/240 } Wide_Area_Network { ; 0h:05m:17s, Pentium 60 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfrac_ml.frm formulaname=3DTruncated_Stalks passes=3Dt center-mag=3D-0.575937/0.839447/15.21422 params=3D0/0/0.0625/16/6/40 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm symmetry=3Dnone = colors=3D000zzz<7>z7zz0zx0x<28>000zzz<6>mmzkkzjjx<29>000zzz<7>xs7<30>000z= z\ = z<6>z88z00x00<29>000zzz<7>0So<30>000zzz<6>z_8zW0xV0<28>320000000<12>000k\= kk cyclerange=3D1/240 } frm:Truncated_Stalks {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ;**************************************************** ; Always use floating point math and outside=3Dsumm. ; ; Parameters: ; p1 =3D if both real(p1) and imag(p1) equal 0 do Mset, ; otherwise do Julia set ; real(p2) =3D a factor controlling the width of the stalks ; imag(p2) =3D a factor controlling the length of the stalks ; real(p3) =3D number of color ranges ; imag(p3) =3D number of colors in each color range ; ; Note that the equation variable is w, not z. Always ; initialize z to zero. ;**************************************************** IF (real(p1) =3D=3D 0 && imag(p1) =3D=3D 0) w =3D 0 c =3D pixel ELSE w =3D pixel c =3D p1 ENDIF z =3D 0 bailout =3D 0 iter =3D 0 range_num =3D 0 ;**************************************************** ; In the accompanying par files, trunspr1 and 2.par, ; we have 2 color ranges with 125 colors in each range ; for a total of 250 colors. The first range starts at ; color 1. Pixels will use color 0 when |w| < 1000. ; Other values can be used here as long as the product ; of num_ranges times colors_in_range is less than 255. ; Color 0 is reserved for the background color and color ; 255 can be used for the inside color. ;**************************************************** num_ranges =3D real(p3) colors_in_range =3D imag(p3) ;**************************************************** ; Real(p2) controls the width of the stalks. ; Imag(p2) controls the length of the stalks. ;**************************************************** stalk_width =3D real(p2) stalk_length =3D imag(p2) index_factor =3D (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width: ;**************************************************** ; The equation being iterated. Almost any equation ; that can be expressed in terms of a complex variable ; and a complex constant will work with this method. ;**************************************************** w =3D c * (1 - w) * (1 + w) / (1 + w * w) ;**************************************************** ; Find which axis the orbit point is closest to. ;**************************************************** IF (abs(real(w)) <=3D abs(imag(w))) min_dist_to_axis =3D abs(real(w)) ELSE min_dist_to_axis =3D abs(imag(w)) ENDIF ;**************************************************** ; If the orbit point is within a stalk width of an axis, ; and the value of |w| is less than the stalk length, then ; set z to the index into the colormap and set the bailout flag. ;**************************************************** IF (min_dist_to_axis < stalk_width && |w| < stalk_length && iter > = 0) z =3D index_factor * min_dist_to_axis + range_num * = colors_in_range + 1 bailout =3D 1 ENDIF ;**************************************************** ; Cycle through the range numbers (0 thru num_ranges - 1) ; With two color ranges, even iterations use color ; range 0, odd iterations use color range 1. ;**************************************************** range_num =3D range_num + 1 IF (range_num =3D=3D num_ranges) range_num =3D 0 ENDIF ;**************************************************** ; Since we are using outside=3Dsumm, we have to subtract ; the number of iterations from z. ;**************************************************** iter =3D iter + 1 z =3D z - iter ;**************************************************** ; Finally, we test for bailout ;**************************************************** bailout =3D=3D 0 && |w| < 1000 } ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BD8974.9245C6E0-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Speaking of "O" Date: 27 May 1998 11:22:06 -0700 Our friend "O" is ok, but could use a little encouragement, I think. Here's part of a note I got from him yesterday: "Oh gosh, I didn't mean to be a cause for worry. I've not been feeling all that creative these last couple of months, and I still haven't gotten around to getting an ISP who will ensure that my posts will always reach the major news feeds and the abpf archives. " . . . part of it is some kind of block. The time between creative breakthroughs seems to be getting longer and longer, and I haven't yet found a suitable formula for my next series. " Give him a hello, if you find the time! His address is: oooo@calweb.com Thanks, Linda >-----Original Message----- >From: davides >>Greetings. >>I have also been an admirer of O's fractals; I am curious as to why he >>hasn't posted any lately. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: (fractint) PAR: Misc. images Date: 27 May 1998 14:26:20 -0400 Here are two images I've made recently. The owl is from Paul's 'Devil' formula. Second is Tim's Error- I just adore that formula I don't know why. Also, keep your eyes pealed for my first poetry/fractal combo. I need to fix the poem a bit first, but I'll try to post it to the fractal art list tomorrow. (I think it's more relavent there, and I hate to crosspost- aren't most people on both lists?) Anyway, I hope you all like these! arrowhead { reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=exp center-mag=-0.917494/5.39425e-006/12.19276/2.4219/-90 params=0/0 colors=0mzhjzU00<2>U20hjzU40<3>080<3>K00<6>zm0<5>zzm<7>000<7>0R0<2>000<8\ >zm0<21>n30m00m00<62>zzkX40<108>000JWzIVz } owl { ; From a Paul Carlson formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=devil passes=b center-mag=0.138778/0.737399/16.78298/0.3734/7.498 float=y maxiter=500 outside=summ colors=000r00v00z00<38>000<3>DG0<62>UKA000<19>000000210<14>hPF<12>hdbhed\ hffhhhhgghfe<10>hTLhSJhRHhPFfOFcME<9>B64<18>ffehhhhgg<26>KA00E0070000<12\ >n00 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 27 May 1998 20:50:17 +0100 Chris wrote: >okay.. I wanted to avoid getting into this, but the morning waking can do odd >things to thought processes... > >just how many sides did those dice have, I wonder? >...or perhaps in how many dimensions? > >Doh. :) > Chris I believe the dice to be in an infinite-dimensional Hilbert space :-) Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 27 May 1998 20:50:36 +0100 >>(what were they _made_ of, since there was no firmament? Plastics are still >>several thousand years away at that point!) > >Well, when you turn Godel's Theorem inside out and find it's negative square >root, you get a recipie for these confectionary dice... they're quite heavenly, >actually. I'm afraid turning Goedel's Theorem inside out is against the second law of thermodynamics. I therefore favor a 144-dimensional functional analysis to be performed before the root-taking, as this dodges Goedel's theorem (can anyone prove this?). Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 27 May 1998 20:50:40 +0100 Angela wrote: >Kragen.... > >I think most vector based programs also can read the Photoshop standard. >However, VERY few folks have vector graphics programs. > Huh? I don't know about the US, but here in western Europe many, many people use CorelDRAW. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 27 May 1998 20:50:34 +0100 Chris wrote: >(what were they [the dice] _made_ of, since there was no firmament? Plastics are still >several thousand years away at that point!) I'm quite sure they were made of magnetic monopoles. Well, the cheap ones of course. The 'elite' editions were often magnetic hexapoles. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 27 May 1998 20:56:46 +0100 Damien wrote: >Rick, > > - My experience with .WMF has been pretty awful... maybe .ai? > >.AI (Adobe Illustrator) is only readable by higher-end apps. Indeed, I couldn't find any app on my sys that can read .ai files. And I have a lot of grafx programs :-) >WMF is decent for very simple vector stuff, but not for anything terribly >fancy. I don't think L-systems will get that fancy. WMF may suck in >general, but I'd suspect it can be read by more software than AI, and >that's what Kragen asked for. > >Damien M. Jones Indeed, WMF is worthless for any complex grafx. I suggest DXF, which is also widely supported and can do a lot more than this WMF. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) TripleMutant demo formula Date: 27 May 1998 18:03:48 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula and par give an interesting demonstration of how the influence of the three functions in Oliver Klimek's TripleMutant formula "infiltrate" an image as the iteration count increases. The par is initialized with an iteration count of 1. Run it, and when done, the press the 'z' key, increase the value of real(p1) and run it again. Here are some suggested values of real(p1) and what you will see: 1 - all blue, fn3 dominates 5 - red (fn1) appears in lower right corner 10 - red disappears except for shading to magenta 12 - red reappears, along with green (fn2) 15 - a pattern is starting to form 20 - a spiral is taking shape 25 - the spiral is well formed 30 - more detail is added to the spiral Although I haven't had a chance to really think about it, I find it interesting the way the advance of the spiral takes place (iterations 12 thru 25) with a blob of red (fn1) at it's tip which is then pinched down by the other two functions in successive iterations to form the spiral. You can run these at low interations for speed. They run quickly because of the low iteration counts. It seems as though a more complete sequence similar to this might make an interesting animation. Like my earlier posting, this is very rough. Improvements that could be made include a more accurate coloring method and modifying the formula to eliminate the cabs() functions. Even with these inaccuracies this little demo gives a pretty good idea of the effect of the three functions at various stages of the iteration. NOTE: At the last minute I added the second par that uses differnet functions. Run the same sequence as for the first par. Paul Carlson } frm:Mutant_demo { ; Oliver Klimek's TripleMutant formula ; as modified by Paul Carlson, 1998 ; real(p1) = iteration count ; w = z = bailout = iter = 0 c = pixel pt1 = (2.5,2.5), pt2 = (-2.5,2.5), pt3 = (2.5,-2.5) a1 = 1 / (|(pixel - pt1)|^2) a2 = 1 / (|(pixel - pt2)|^2) a3 = 1 / (|(pixel - pt3)|^2) : ; find contribution of each function k1 = a1 * fn1(w) k2 = a2 * fn2(w) k3 = a3 * fn3(w) ; ; compute value of w w = w * w + c + k1 + k2 + k3 ; ; if we're at the specified iteration count, ; find which function has largest contribution ; and set the bailout flag. IF ((iter == real(p1)) || (|w| > 8)) bailout = 1 m1 = cabs(k1), m2 = cabs(k2), m3 = cabs(k3) IF (m1 < 1.0e-20) m1 = 1.0e-20 ENDIF IF (m2 < 1.0e-20) m2 = 1.0e-20 ENDIF IF (m3 < 1.0e-20) m3 = 1.0e-20 ENDIF maxm = m1 IF (m2 > m1) maxm = m2 IF (m3 > m2) maxm = m3 ENDIF ELSEIF (m3 > m1) maxm = m3 ENDIF ; ; set z to colormap index IF (maxm == m1) z = 1 + 40 * (1 - m3/m1 + m2/m1) ELSEIF (maxm == m2) z = 81 + 40 * (1 - m1/m2 + m3/m2) ELSE z = 161 + 40 * (1 - m2/m3 + m1/m3) ENDIF ENDIF ; ; test for bailout iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 } Mut_demo1 { ; Paul Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mutdemo.frm formulaname=mutant_demo function=sqrt/cos/acosh passes=g center-mag=+0.31940862426200290/+0.03514300035272705/176.0658 params=1/0 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<37>z7Az79z88z98<34>zu1zw1zx1zz0yz0wz1<37>2zQ0z\ R0zR<36>0zy0zz0yz0xz<36>FIzGGzHGz<38>x1g000<13>000 } Mut_demo2 { ; Paul Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mutdemo.frm formulaname=mutant_demo function=sin/asin/acosh passes=g center-mag=+0.32197249900830350/+0.03514300035272705/176.0658 params=1/0 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<37>z7Az79z88z98<36>zx1zz0yz0<38>2zQ0zR0zR<36>0z\ y0zz0yz0xz<36>FIzGGzHGz<38>x1g000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) PAR: Misc. images Date: 27 May 1998 18:17:07 -0500 (CDT) RJ... Excellent owl! Best I've seen! Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RJ Corradino" Subject: RE: (fractint) PAR: Misc. images Date: 27 May 1998 19:29:21 -0400 > Excellent owl! Best I've seen! > > Paul Carlson Thanks Paul...you did the hard part though! -RJ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fabian Labeau Subject: (fractint) (PAR)Look what I found... Date: 27 May 1998 21:08:26 -0300 Look what I found (by merely serendipity, of course, in one of Sylvie Gallet=B4s formulae. "IS" a coral-reef. I=B4ve seen plenty of them when I was in Buzios (Brasil), snorkeling. My gift for you, Sylvie, for your wonderful and marvelous work. Coral_F { ; frm by Sylvie Gallet (TNX Sylvie!) ; CalcTime 0:00:53.00 at 640x480 on a P100 ; Image Copyright May 27 1998 by Fabian Labeau ; e-mail to: andros@interactive.com.ar reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfrac_ml.frm formulaname=3Dgallet-3-02 function=3Dsin/acos passes=3D1 corners=3D0.01678618/3.127192/0.006921099/3.117327 params=3D0.5/0.5/0.5/0.5 float=3Dy maxiter=3D255 outside=3Datan decomp=3D2= 56 periodicity=3D0 viewwindows=3D1/1/yes/0/0 colors=3D900<2>700630620600<9>000630<94>lkjlkjmlknml<11>wwuwwl<12>wwfwweww= \ dwwcwvb<22>gXAgW9fV8fU6eT5eS3dR2cP0<30>S75R66R66R66<24>L11K11K11J11J11<1\ 6>900 } Saludos Fabian Labeau andros@impsat1.com.ar andros@interactive.com.ar flabeau@bigfoot.com http://members.xoom.com/Labeau Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Speaking of "O" Date: 27 May 1998 17:49:06 -0700 Linda... Pass along www.thelist.org as a resource for finding a good isp in his area. I have two nice little "mom and pop" isp's I use, and along with simplenet at $10 per month for unlimited storage space for my homepage, I don't even spend that much. Angela Mike and Linda Allison wrote: > > Our friend "O" is ok, but could use a little encouragement, I think. > Here's part of a note I got from him yesterday: > > "Oh gosh, I didn't mean to be a cause for worry. I've not been feeling > all > that creative these last couple of months, and I still haven't gotten > around > to getting an ISP who will ensure that my posts will always reach the > major > news feeds and the abpf archives. <> Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (fractint) FRMs & PARs Date: 27 May 1998 23:35:18 EDT Peter Gavin wrote: Is there a way to tell Fractint to look in multiple directories for frm/par files?.... Being new to gobs of frms and pars, I found the best way to get my frm's all sorted out for Fractint was to use Orgform. In my frm directory all I have are the orgform frm files. All the originals with comments I keep in another directory. When a new par comes in and I try to run it and it can't find the formula I know I need to request it and whenever I get a new frm I make sure to run orgform. Hope this helps, Rui Parracho Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (fractint) Quickie3 pars and frm Date: 27 May 1998 23:54:16 EDT Thank you for the info on IRC. I think I'll be able to use it soon. Regarding RSP_1011 DUPLICATION, this was the first formula I wrote long before I had any system for keeping track of formula perversions. I hope it won't happen many more times. If everyone who saved that disaster of a first post and has that formula could you please rename it rsp_1011m as S.Gallet suggested. Thank you for your patience. I read some time ago that someone maintained the par and frm posting on there web site but I can't remeber who. Could someone drop me a line telling me where it is. Thanks. A quick posting: Apperitions { ; RSP 27MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf005.frm formulaname=rsp_5020 function=sin/sqr/sinh/cosh passes=t center-mag=0.0187793/-0.0125261/1.253133 params=100/0/10000/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 outside=real symmetry=none periodicity=0 colors=0006nN3jT0gZ<2>0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy2<4>2jW0b\ b0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Eq03x60t<6>z0\ 0z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ0Ye0Nk0Eq03x60t<6>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4\ >0gZ0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Jn08u20x<6\ >v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Eq03x60t<6>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4\ >Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ0Ye0Nk0Eq03x60t<6>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5BuB8qH } Phoenix_Hiding { ; RSP 27MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf005.frm formulaname=rsp_5020 function=cosxx/sqr/sinh/cosh passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=10/0/0.0001/0 float=y maxiter=75 symmetry=none periodicity=0 colors=000000jQU<12>523211000i0w<12>507203000CWn<5>6HS5FP4DL3BH28E16A146\ 013000iXc<14>000_mj<12>465122000zb0<12>740310000`QV<12>423111000S8`<12>3\ 04101000OUY<10>579456234111000zVW<12>733311000e3L<11>703502201000kmx<12>\ 567223000_mj<12>4651220000OJ<11>043021011000ohh<12>655222000www<13>333 } Tearing_Away { ; RSP 27MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf005.frm formulaname=rsp_5020 function=cosxx/sqr/tan/ident passes=t center-mag=1.31455/1.30271/0.6666667 params=1/0/1e-006/0 float=y maxiter=75 inside=zmag outside=real symmetry=none periodicity=0 colors=000jjF<3>zz0<15>z00w02<14>00y<15>0z03w2<14>z0y<14>N0MK0JJ1K<13>2S\ j0Ul0Vl<13>0kl0ml0ml<14>0cy<15>zzy<30>zd1zc0zd0<14>zz0<15>z00y21<13>ZZYc\ cb<7>zzy<6>00y<10>ffJ } frm:rsp_5020 { ;*RSP 27MAY98 ; A different Runge adaptation xo=yo=z=(pixel), h=(pixel/|pixel|), bail=(4*(|p2|<=0)+p2) h2=(h*(|p1|<=0)+h/p1): xo=real(z), yo=imag(z), k1=fn1(h*(xo+flip(yo))), k2=fn2(h*(xo+h2+flip(yo+k1/2))), k3=fn3(h*(xo+h2+flip(yo+k2/2))), k4=fn4(h*(xo+h+flip(yo+k3))), z=flip(yo)+(k1+2*k2+2*k3+k4)/6, |z|>=bail } Best regards, Rui Parracho Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: exile@tezcat.com (exile) Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 27 May 1998 22:01:10 -0500 } From: "Christian Strik" } Damien wrote: } >Rick, } > - My experience with .WMF has been pretty awful... maybe .ai? } >.AI (Adobe Illustrator) is only readable by higher-end apps. } Indeed, I couldn't find any app on my sys that can read .ai files. And I } have a lot of grafx programs :-) Must have different aps than I've used. } >WMF is decent for very simple vector stuff, but not for anything terribly } >fancy. I don't think L-systems will get that fancy. WMF may suck in } >general, but I'd suspect it can be read by more software than AI, and } >that's what Kragen asked for. I suspect that .WMF is going to be read by anything that uses the windows clipboard. Other than that... .ai is the most widely read format that I know of other than, maybe, PDF. } Indeed, WMF is worthless for any complex grafx. Yes... it is. {}Rick __ Please... Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. {Kelly LeBrock} Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) A Fractalnaut with a problem Date: 27 May 1998 23:56:27 -0500 Jim Muth wrote: > > This afternoon, I received the following message from a > frustrated fractal explorer. > > > > ........WebTV stuff snipped ........ > > Thank you, Mort Gilbert > > The return address is . I can't help him > because I'm not even sure what his problem is. > I have recently gotten a message back from Mr. Gilbert saying that my solution resolved his current situation: > > I sent a thank-you email to the address > at the top of your note, but I am not sure > which return address you wanted. With > WebTV I have six terminals (in effect, 6 > home pages, each with its own set of > Folders; eksx is the one with all my fractals > sources. With the web address >NEWS: > alt.binaries.pictures.fractals< I reached > the Group on the first try, and am indeed > grateful. Would you forword this note (or > my earlier 5/27 note) to Jim Muth to assure > him the problem is solved? > Thank you, Mort Gilbert > Later, P.N.L. Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems progress Date: 28 May 1998 00:04:35 -0500 Kragen wrote: > > I've looked up .wmf. It seems Microsoft used to have info on > their web site, but no longer does. > If you really want all of the information for Windows Meta Files, then I'll send you the complete details privately. For that matter I can send detailed information on over 100 graphic file formats to anyone interested. P.N.L. Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Quickie3 pars and frm Date: 28 May 1998 00:24:47 -0500 (CDT) comment { This par is a zoom into Rui's Tearing_Away par. The image looks a lot like an abstract oil painting. The colormap is Rui's, as well as the formula. Paul Carlson } abstract_oil { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:10:48.56, 640x480, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rui3.frm formulaname=rsp_5020 function=cosxx/sqr/tan/ident passes=1 center-mag=-0.180422/1.22264/9.882986/1/-22.499 params=1/0/1e-006/0 float=y maxiter=75 inside=zmag outside=real symmetry=none periodicity=0 colors=000jjF<3>zz0<15>z00w02<14>00y<15>0z03w2<14>z0y<14>N0MK\ 0JJ1K<11>4Of3Qh2Sj0Ul0Vl0Wl<10>0il0jl0kl0ml0ml0lm<13>0cy<15>z\ zy<30>zd1zc0zd0<14>zz0<15>z00y21<13>ZZYccb<7>zzy<6>00y<10>ffJ } frm:rsp_5020 { ;*RSP 27MAY98 ; A different Runge adaptation xo=yo=z=(pixel), h=(pixel/|pixel|), bail=(4*(|p2|<=0)+p2) h2=(h*(|p1|<=0)+h/p1): xo=real(z), yo=imag(z), k1=fn1(h*(xo+flip(yo))), k2=fn2(h*(xo+h2+flip(yo+k1/2))), k3=fn3(h*(xo+h2+flip(yo+k2/2))), k4=fn4(h*(xo+h+flip(yo+k3))), z=flip(yo)+(k1+2*k2+2*k3+k4)/6, |z|>=bail } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint on NT... Date: 27 May 1998 19:55:28 -1000 On 27 May 98 at 19:35, Aldo Calpini wrote: > >The only thing you can do is set up a dual boot system with DOS or > >OS/2. > >Fractint runs fine in OS/2 with the Millenium. > > OS/2??? Are you kidding? :-) Fractint 19.6 runs fine under OS/2 with our Diamond Stealth64 Series 2000 display adaptor. It won't run on the same hardware under W95. I'll stick with OS/2, thank you. W95 doesn't work for me, and NT won't either! Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond Not a real tagline, but an incredible soy substitute! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 27 May 1998 19:59:41 -1000 On 27 May 98 at 20:50, Christian Strik wrote: > Angela wrote: > >Kragen.... > >I think most vector based programs also can read the Photoshop standard. > >However, VERY few folks have vector graphics programs. > > Huh? I don't know about the US, but here in western Europe many, many people > use CorelDRAW. I use three different versions of it, have for years! There's a reason why CorelDraw basically controls the vector graphics market outside of the graphic designers speciality shops! ;-) Just a voice from the US. Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond Whatever we get, we'll have something. - A Kajiwara Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 27 May 1998 19:59:41 -1000 On 27 May 98 at 20:56, Christian Strik wrote: > I suggest DXF, which is also widely supported and can > do a lot more than this WMF. Except that DXF support for fonts was pathetic, last time I looked. But then, I haven't wasted my time dealing with DXF for a few years now. Any program that can produce a DXF file can just as easily produce a much more useful and better PS file! ;-) Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond One of these days I'm going to start procrastinating. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: (fractint) Oh my God! Date: 28 May 1998 02:26:34 -0400 My God... A real live OS/2 user! And I thought those were mythical, like dragons, or perhaps extinct, like dinosaurs.... :-) ObFractint: RandomHRing08 { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring.frm formulaname=hring_j2 center-mag=-0.0272269/2.09319/0.2243776 params=0.7840416431427/0.6207082259952/0/3.9/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000mcU<2>qgY<2>ukpwmwwmv<20>dVWcUUbTTaSR`RP<11>MC2KA0KA0<78>000mc\ U<3>qgY<3>Ucm<20>LNbLMaKL`JK_<13>A4O92N92N<78>000 } RandomHRing09 { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring.frm formulaname=hring_j2 center-mag=0.0424782/2.34886/0.2243776 params=0.9137064218521/0.4063749188449/0/4.45/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000wnz<12>yyzzzzyyy<29>MMMKKKKKK<78>000wnz<11>h`wg_vfZvdXudXt<29>\ O3NN2LN2L<78>000 } RandomHRing10 { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring.frm formulaname=hring_j2 passes=t center-mag=-0.0272269/2.23265/0.2082224 params=0.5963673591614/0.8027116374682/0/4.3/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000zzzzzzzzz<10>zz5zz0yx0<27>PF0NE0MC0KA0KA0<78>000Xud<11>txuvywx\ yxzzzyyy<29>MMMKKKKKK<78>000 } ShinyMetalHRing { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=HRing_J256 passes=t center-mag=0.310613/0.964128/0.5787694 params=0.8/0.6/3.2/0/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real colors=00000O<14>00c00e00e<59>gkyhlzhlzhlz<45>zzzj5n<29>yxyzzzzyz<29>k7o\ j5ni5n<29>21L00K10K<30>j5n } RandomHRing11 { ; Metal! reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256 center-mag=0.170271/0.512692/0.5782928 params=0.0956348180771/0.9954164864875999/0/4.1/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000zzzzzzzzz<11>0zz<28>0FP0EN0CM0AK0AK<78>000<16>zzz<11>bwi`vgZvf\ XudXtd<29>3NO2LN2LN<62>000 } RandomHRing12 { ; Metallic! reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256 center-mag=-0.0272269/2.09319/0.2243776 params=-0.5180213451385/0.8553676905173/0/3.9/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000zzzzzzzzz<10>z5zz0zx0y<27>F0PE0NC0MA0KA0K<78>000TCX<30>cWtdXud\ XudXu<76>N2LN2LN3M<13>SCX } RandomHRing13 { ; Metallic! reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256 passes=t center-mag=-0.0272269/2.09319/0.2243776 params=0.5073953866959/0.8617133639208/0/3.9/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000zzz<28>HXaFV`FV`<45>8GJ8GJ8GJ8GJ8GJ<44>5BDXCT<14>hMYhMZiO_<13>\ xwxzzzzxy<13>oUcnRanRa<61>L2NL2NM3N<13>XCS } RandomHRing14 { ; Metallic! reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256 passes=t center-mag=-0.0272269/2.09319/0.2243776 params=0.7528004646301/0.6582487831/0/3.9/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=768 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000b10<44>yx0zz0zz0<78>zzzc10<31>zz0<46>V2JU0KU0K<45>c00 } RandomHRing15 { ; Ice crystals! reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256 passes=1 center-mag=-0.0504619/3.9526/0.9195803 params=-0.5733805894852/0.819289142856/0/3.9/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=768 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000U0K<26>v8`w9ax9bzAczAc<45>zgqzhryhq<46>000ony<13>fdyecxcbw<14>\ 8OW5MU5MU<44>dbwecxecxfdx<29>zzzzzzyyz<13>poy } RandomHRing16 { ; Metllic! reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256b center-mag=-0.0272269/2.09319/0.2243776 params=0.7524646520615/0.6586326346288/0/3.9/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000J00<12>200000100<14>K00L10M30<28>xx0zz0zz3<14>zzz<15>zz0<30>M2\ 0K00J00zzz<12>_fvXduXdt<29>3ON2NL2NL<77>000kkk } MetalSwirls { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256b center-mag=-0.0272269/2.09319/0.2243776 params=-0.450355052948/0.8928495541155/0/3.9/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=00000C<5>00K10L30M<28>x0xz0zz3z<14>zzz<15>z0z<30>20M00K00J<14>002\ 000001<6>00Azzz<12>vf_udXtdX<29>NO3LN2LN2<78>000 } RandomHRing17 { ; Metallic! reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256b center-mag=-0.0272269/2.09319/0.2243776 params=-0.450355052948/0.8928495541155/0/4.2/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000ozu<4>hzqfzpeypdxp<28>2Wn0Um0Tj<14>000<15>0Um<30>dxofzpgzp<13>\ xzyzzzyzz<7>ozuzzz<12>ygexecxdc<29>V7NU5MU5M<74>212211111000kkk } RandomHRing18 { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256b passes=t center-mag=-0.0272269/2.09319/0.2243776 params=-0.8861676603556/0.4633647351061/0/3.9/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000mCb<21>odxpfzpgz<13>yxzzzzzyz<6>upzuozuoz<4>qhzpfzpeypdx<29>m0\ U<15>000<15>m0U<7>mAazzz<12>egycexcdx<29>N7VM5UM5U<78>92C cyclerange=1/128 } RandomHRing19 { ; Metallic! reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256b passes=t center-mag=-0.0272269/2.09319/0.2243776 params=-0.9874483793974/0.1579420717398/0/3.9/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000zun<13>zmWzlUykU<29>bHSaFRaGS<22>uqsvsuxvwxwxyxyzzzzzzzzzzxtzv\ nztj<6>znXzmUykU<14>aFR<7>oejqhmrlotoqvstxvwzzzzzzzzzzyxzxu<3>zvozzz<12>\ geyecxdcx<29>7NV5MU5MU<74>122112111000kkk cyclerange=1/128 } RandomHRing19b { ; Alternate colors reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256b passes=t center-mag=-0.0272269/2.09319/0.2243776 params=-0.9874483793974/0.1579420717398/0/3.9/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000nvz<32>2dz0cz1cz<38>xyzzzzzzzzzz<20>0cz<19>zzzzzzzzz<6>pwzzzz<\ 12>eygcxecxd<29>NV7MU5MU5<74>221121111000kkk cyclerange=1/128 } RandomHRing20 { ; Metallic! reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256b passes=t center-mag=-0.0272269/2.09319/0.2243776 params=-0.945922726479/0.3243920398693/0/3.9/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=768 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000720<36>zN0<39>210000000000<20>zN0<19>000000000<3>620zzz<13>N2L\ <30>xTbzUczUc<78>zzz cyclerange=1/128 } Beadzoids { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256b passes=t center-mag=-0.0272269/1.74455/0.2243776 params=-0.9484985977883/0.3167813283539/0/3.2/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000027<36>0Nz<39>012000000000<19>0Lw0Nz0Mw<17>024000000000<3>026z\ zz<13>L2N<30>bTxcUzcUz<78>zzz } Beadzoids_2 { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=hring256.frm formulaname=hring_j256b passes=t center-mag=-0.0272269/1.74455/0.2243776 params=-0.9484985977883/0.3167813283539/0/3.1/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=3 colors=000072<36>0zN<39>021000000000<20>0zN<19>000000000<3>062zzz<13>2LN\ <30>TbxUczUcz<78>zzz } -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Oh my God! Date: 28 May 1998 03:18:35 -0400 Hi Paul, Most of your latest pars use HRing_J256 and I don't have this formula. = Thanks for posting it. Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Otterstaetter Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat - problem solved!? Date: 28 May 1998 09:36:27 +0200 HWeber8606 / Michael Peters wrote: > PartoBat ver. 3.5 to the download area on my page > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber. > Because I haven't a PII I need your response (see the original message > from Michael Peters below). > --Jo-- > > Betr: Partobat new version Bereich: Fractint Sources > An: all Montag, 25. Mai 1998 12:17:03 > Von: Michael Peters, 100041,247 #15932 > > I've uploaded Partobat version 3.5 (will turn up in the libs soon). It should > take care of the runtime error problems on > very fast machines. I patched my Borland Pascal compiler and it should work > now, but I couldn't test it because the > problem never happened on my machine, so there's a slight chance that the > problem is still there. Please let me > know how it goes. > The runtime error problems seem to be gone. I used the new partobat yesterday evening on my PII 300 MHz without problems. Many Thanks for this new version. Peter Otterstaetter Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: Re: (fractint) Oh my God! Date: 28 May 1998 03:33:27 -0400 >Most of your latest pars use HRing_J256 and I don't have this formula. >Thanks for posting it. Shit! Forgot that one...here it is. HRing_J256 { ; This thing is capable of generating Herman rings for alpha ; equal to exp(2*pi*i*a), a irrational. ; p1: alpha. p2: c. p3: Orbit trap radius about 0, reciprocal is ; used for infinity. ; Color variant: stretches to maxiter outside, decomp-128'd inside. ; Use outside=real, logmap=0, periodicity=0. z=pixel, a=p1, c=p2, r=real(p3), rr=1/r, iter=0, done=0: z2=sqr(z) z=a*z2*(z-c)/(1-c*z) iter=iter+1 IF(lastsqrrr) IF(lastsqr>rr) color=(iter/maxit)*127 IF(color<1) color=1 ELSEIF(color>127) color=127 ENDIF ELSE cc=atan(imag(z)/real(z)) IF(real(z)<0) cc=cc+PI ELSEIF(real(z)==0) IF(imag(z)<0) cc=-PI/2 ELSE cc=PI/2 ENDIF ENDIF IF(cc<0) cc=cc+2*PI ENDIF color=128+cc*64/PI ENDIF z=color-iter-7 done=1 ENDIF done==0 } HRing_J256b { ; This thing is capable of generating Herman rings for alpha ; equal to exp(2*pi*i*a), a irrational. ; p1: alpha. p2: c. p3: Orbit trap radius about 0, reciprocal is ; used for infinity. ; Color variant: stretches to maxiter inside, decomp-128'd outside. ; Use outside=real, logmap=0, periodicity=0. z=pixel, a=p1, c=p2, r=real(p3), rr=1/r, iter=0, done=0: z2=sqr(z) z=a*z2*(z-c)/(1-c*z) iter=iter+1 IF(lastsqrrr) IF(lastsqr>rr) cc=atan(imag(z)/real(z)) IF(real(z)<0) cc=cc+PI ELSEIF(real(z)==0) IF(imag(z)<0) cc=-PI/2 ELSE cc=PI/2 ENDIF ENDIF IF(cc<0) cc=cc+2*PI ENDIF color=1+cc*64/PI ELSE color=(iter/maxit)*127 IF(color<1) color=1 ELSEIF(color>127) color=127 ENDIF color=color+128 ENDIF z=color-iter-7 done=1 ENDIF done==0 } -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) Summer (PAR) Date: 28 May 1998 07:15:18 -0400 Since summer is here: Summer { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 28, 1998 t=0:03:27.28 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; frm: CnFrc_Fnc_Mset, (c) Paul Carlson 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=CnFrc_Fnc_Mset function=exp passes=t center-mag=-1.45933095183020000/-0.00000091379369477/10347.12/1.2157/90 params=3/0/2/0/3/63 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=zmag outside=summ colors=000<78>000A20<10>yhW<15>QGA000<9>000K00<49>t54000000MC7<6>yhW<8>V\ KD000<23>000E0G<14>iJnlLqlLq<19>lBhc9Zc9_E0GF0H } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Summer (PAR) Date: 28 May 1998 07:35:52 -0400 BTW, since I do not know how to generate a par from a 3d spherical projection, this is a work around. I like the effects of "Summer" when saved as a gif, loaded as a 3d sphere with coarseness, surface roughness = 0 and using this color map: colors=rqv8Xh<<16>CmqDnrEnq<<8>TgnUgnWho<<13>vvv<<14>WWhUUgVVgWXgYZg<<45>pnrq\ ospmq<<12>cRSZ00_32<<12>pmqrqurnu<<14>m0l3Kl<<14>rqu<<64>4H_4H_4I`<<14>8Xg } With the above color map loaded onto the above image and cycling the image it might better be described as a living crystal ball, for usage only by the adepts of the High Arts. :) davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 28 May 1998 09:58:24 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 27 May 1998, Shauna Jones wrote: > On 27 May 98 at 20:56, Christian Strik wrote: > > I suggest DXF, which is also widely supported and can > > do a lot more than this WMF. > > Except that DXF support for fonts was pathetic, last time > I looked. Let's put this in context: I want to export lsystem fractals in a way that common applications can import them. lsystem fractals can be drawn with 'move to (x, y); line to (x1, y1);'. WMF can do this. I'm certain DXF can, too. (Perhaps this has expanded into a general discussion of the relative merits of different vector graphics file formats. If that is the case, may I humbly suggest that it is slightly off-topic?) > Any program that can produce a > DXF file can just as easily produce a much more useful > and better PS file! ;-) Is it also the case that any program that can read a DXF file can just as easily read a PS file? I think not. PostScript is pretty hard to read -- you have to implement a lot of non-graphics stuff. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint on NT... Date: 28 May 1998 10:36:15 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 27 May 1998, Shauna Jones wrote: > Fractint 19.6 runs fine under OS/2 with our Diamond > Stealth64 Series 2000 display adaptor. It won't run > on the same hardware under W95. > > I'll stick with OS/2, thank you. W95 doesn't work for me, > and NT won't either! Well, in five years or so, everyone will be running Linux, which will let you run Fractint either in a window or full-screen (like DOS). Then you will be happy. :) A couple of OS/2 folks -- one an IBMer since early childhood -- on systalk@ml.org have just switched from OS/2 to Linux. Just because IBM doesn't care about OS/2 anymore. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) Oh my God! Date: 28 May 1998 11:46:12 -0400 >> Forgot that one...here it is. Thanks. - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint on NT... Date: 28 May 1998 18:07:36 +0100 Kragen wrote: >Well, in five years or so, everyone will be running Linux, which will >let you run Fractint either in a window or full-screen (like DOS). >Then you will be happy. :) Hahahahahaha.... (Sorry for that) :-) Linux is nice for 'us', but for newbies: guess M$ will win... But we have had this discussion before. But is it already possible (or will it be possible in the near, near future) to run dos apps using vesa or so under Linux? Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: Re: (fractint) Oh my God! Date: 28 May 1998 18:22:15 +0100 Paul Derbyshire wrote: >My God... A real live OS/2 user! And I thought those were mythical, like >dragons, or perhaps extinct, like dinosaurs.... :-) Here's another one! Be careful with your words. There might be more of them out there than you think. And being a proud owner of a Matrox graphics card, my use of OS/2 allowed me to skip all of the week-long diskussion about running Fractint with it under much less exotic OSes. Oliver "positively not wanting to turn this in to an OS advocacy thread" Klimek Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint on NT... Date: 28 May 1998 12:25:15 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 28 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > Linux is nice for 'us', but for newbies: guess M$ will win... But we have > had this discussion before. I doubt it. I went to a Win98 presentation night before last. All the features they're touting (to new users!) are second-best to Linux. Have you seen KDE or GNOME lately? > But is it already possible (or will it be possible in the near, near future) > to run dos apps using vesa or so under Linux? I don't have dosemu. Yes, you can run DOS apps under Linux; yes, even graphical apps; no, I don't know how good the SVGA support is; no, I haven't tried Fractint under dosemu yet. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Klimek Subject: (fractint) The Return of the Triple Mutant Date: 28 May 1998 22:05:26 +0100 Paul Carlson's visualization of my formula is very interesting indeed. It really shows a lot of what is going on behind the scenes. And furthermore you can make quite nice images with it when you change the colormap. The basic idea of the TripleMutant formula can, of course, be applied to any formula being iterated, so don't hesitate to try it out. I have made another Mandelbrot-based experiment using this method. This time, not the iterated function is overlayed by the triple function field, but the constant c. This allows us to put the time consuming calculation into the pre-iteration routine. Apart from giving us new worlds to explore this should speed up calculation significantly. But "unfortunately" it does not. Because with this change the Mandelbrot set itself (The Lake) is being transformed into fractal dust when the centers of functional activity approach zero. This forces the use of periodicity=0. When playing around with the formula you should also note that visible changes already happen when the three points are significantly farther away than with the first formula. Oliver "The Great Mutator" Klimek ------------ TripleMutant2{ ; Mandelbrot mutated by a combination of fn1, fn2 and fn3 ; "sitting" at the points p1, p2 and p3 ; Not the iterated formula is modified ; but the constant c z=0 c=pixel a1=1/(|(pixel-p1)|^2) a2=1/(|(pixel-p2)|^2) a3=1/(|(pixel-p3)|^2): c=c+a1*fn1(c)+a2*fn2(c)+a3*fn3(c) z=z*z+c |z|<=8 } TripMut2_01 { ; Strange things happen to the Mandelbrot set ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:17:56.60 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=test.frm formulaname=TripleMutant2 function=cosxx/acos/sin center-mag=-0.422287/0.0312907/0.6666667 params=5/5/-5/-5/-5/5 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=0 periodicity=0 colors=000qqv<50>AAcAAcBBc<45>YYqYYqYYqYYqZZq<87>wwxxxyxxyyyyyyy<48>zzzz\ zzyyz<7>rrw } TripMut2_02 { ; It seems to be dissolving ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:03:33.32 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tripmut.frm formulaname=TripleMutant2 function=cosxx/acos/sin center-mag=-0.422287/0.0312907/0.6666667 params=2/2/-2/-2/-2/2 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=0 periodicity=0 colors=000xxy<58>AAcAAcBBc<45>YYqYYqYYqYYqZZq<87>wwxxxyxxyyyyyyy<48>zzzz\ zzyyz } TripMut2_03 { ; Same point locations, different functions ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:01:12.75 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tripmut.frm formulaname=TripleMutant2 function=sin/conj/sqrt center-mag=-0.422287/0.0312907/0.6666667 params=2/2/-2/-2/-2/2 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=0 periodicity=0 colors=000xxy<58>AAcAAcBBc<45>YYqYYqYYqYYqZZq<87>wwxxxyxxyyyyyyy<48>zzzz\ zzyyz } TripMut2_04 { ; With points approaching 0 there's not much left ; (c) Oliver Klimek, MCMXCVIII ; time= 0:00:02.50 on P-100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=tripmut.frm formulaname=TripleMutant2 function=sin/conj/sqrt center-mag=-0.422287/0.0312907/0.3786667 params=0.5/0.5/-0.5/-0.5/-0.5/0.5 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=0 periodicity=0 colors=000xxy<58>AAcAAcBBc<45>YYqYYqYYqYYqZZq<87>wwxxxyxxyyyyyyy<48>zzzz\ zzyyz } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat - problem solved!? Date: 29 May 1998 01:07:49 +0100 Hi Jo, >today I added PartoBat ver. 3.5 to the download area on my page >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber. >Because I haven't a PII I need your response Thanks for posting the revised program. I was having terrible problems with v3.4 since I got my Pentium II. This version seems to be completely bug-free. Now if you could just persuade him to add that "savename" support....:-) cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Double Ellipse Formula Date: 28 May 1998 21:11:44 -0500 (CDT) comment { As I walked to work this morning I designed another formula (I can't help it - I'm addicted) and so when I got home tonight I sat right down to type it in and try it out. I haven't had time yet to do anything except locate a few images that look promising at 320x200 resolution (all I've had time for) but I thought I'd pass it along to you to see what you think of it. The formula uses two elliptical orbit traps and two color ranges, one range for each trap. By setting the major and minor axes equal to each other the traps become circular (this was done in the 2Ellm03 and 2Ellm04 pars). All of the images have a midget at their center except 2Ellm07 which is a spiral. All the pars should plot reasonably fast with the possible exception of 2Ellm08. I just got a hint of what this one will look like (it should be run at 1024x768 resolution) and I think it may have a very interesting texture with a very tiny midget at its center. Anyhow, I hope you like it. Paul "good grief, he's posting another formula" Carlson } frm:Two_Ellipse_Mset {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; Parameters: ; real(p1) = a factor controlling the width of the curves ; imag(p1) = iterations to skip ; real(p2) = major axis, ellipse 1 ; imag(p2) = minor axis, ellipse 1 ; real(p3) = major axis, ellipse 2 ; imag(p3) = minor axis, ellipse 2 ; w = z = bailout = iter = 0 c = pixel width = real(p1) skip_iters = imag(p1) a1 = real(p2), b1 = imag(p2) a2 = real(p3), b2 = imag(p3) i = (0,1) index_factor = 124 / width: ; w = w * w + c ; classic Mandelbrot set ; ang = atan(imag(w) / real(w)) ell1 = a1 * cos(ang) + i * b1 * sin(ang) dist1 = abs(cabs(w) - cabs(ell1)) ell2 = b2 * cos(ang) + i * a2 * sin(ang) dist2 = abs(cabs(w) - cabs(ell2)) IF (dist1 < dist2) range_num = 0 distance = dist1 ELSE range_num = 1 distance = dist2 ENDIF IF (distance < width && iter > skip_iters) z = index_factor * distance + range_num * 125 + 1 bailout = 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1000 } 2Ellm01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=2ell.frm formulaname=two_ellipse_mset passes=t corners=-1.994336298107/-1.994329974115/4.215994666509e-006/-\ 4.21599466721e-006/-1.994329974115/-4.21599466721e-006 params=0.1/0/0.6/0.3/0.2/0.4 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=4MMVzz<123>0GGz88<123>O00000<3>000 } 2Ellm02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=2ell.frm formulaname=two_ellipse_mset passes=t corners=-1.994336298107/-1.994329974115/4.215994666509e-006/-\ 4.21599466721e-006/-1.994329974115/-4.21599466721e-006 params=0.1/0/1/0.5/0.2/0.5 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=00UzVz<123>G0GVzz<123>0GG000<3>000 } 2Ellm03 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=2ell.frm formulaname=two_ellipse_mset passes=t corners=-1.994337108999/-1.994329163223/5.29718399954e-006/-\ 5.29718400024e-006/-1.994329163223/-5.29718400024e-006 params=0.1/15/0.5/0.5/0.2/0.2 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=4MMVzz<123>0GGz88<123>O00000<3>000 } 2Ellm04 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=2ell.frm formulaname=two_ellipse_mset passes=t corners=-1.994336965975/-1.994329306247/5.1064853332e-006/-5.\ 1064853339e-006/-1.994329306247/-5.1064853339e-006 params=0.2/15/0.5/0.5/0.3/0.3 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=IRZsF_<123>C02Mov<123>HKS000<3>000 } 2Ellm05 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=2ell.frm formulaname=two_ellipse_mset passes=t center-mag=+0.46896106330558320/+0.35509324887537790/19260.21\ /1/-70 params=0.12/25/1/0.5/0.2/0.5 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=00czz0<123>aG0zzz<123>UUU000<3>000 } 2Ellm06 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=2ell.frm formulaname=two_ellipse_mset passes=t center-mag=-0.19837500384274340/+1.10023441784302400/535.456/\ 1/-98.199 params=0.18/10/1/0.5/0.2/0.5 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=00czz0<123>aG0zzz<123>UUU000<3>000 } 2Ellm07 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=2ell.frm formulaname=two_ellipse_mset center-mag=-0.62916771159874600/+0.68427324120602990/11958.15 params=0.065/0/1/0.5/0.2/0.5 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z88<123>O00zqa<123>WRF000<3>000 } 2Ellm08 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=2ell.frm formulaname=two_ellipse_mset passes=t center-mag=+0.36126226339583390/+0.09037301453683470/2.340823\ e+008 params=0.7/0/5/2/2/4 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z88<123>O00zqa<123>WRF000<3>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: (fractint) Permission denied to download Fractint from Spanky??!?? Date: 29 May 1998 00:29:08 -0400 I get a 403 (access denied) accessing the Fractint web pages at Spanky... what the hell??? -ERROR-(403): Access to object is _ruled_ out. Requested method: GET Requested URL: /fractint/fractint.html HTTP protocol: HTTP/1.1 -------- additional request headers -------- Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, */* Accept-Language: en-us Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95) Host: spanky.triumf.ca Connection: Keep-Alive -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) Nomenclature Date: 28 May 1998 21:38:46 -0700 Good nice, rainy evening Is there a book or list or doc of any sort that gives the nomenclature of the Mset? I keep reading comments about the first bud past the alligator's mouth - or some such, and people seem to know the location that is being referred to. And is there a like nomenclature for the basic Julia image? Thank you. Ray Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Derbyshire" Subject: Re: (fractint) Permission denied to download Fractint from Spanky??!?? Date: 29 May 1998 00:41:11 -0400 >I get a 403 (access denied) accessing the Fractint web pages at Spanky... what >the hell??? Going through other Spanky pages I find the Fractint page has been moved to /www/fractint/fractint.html, but that still doesn't explain my getting a 403, as a 404 is what should have occurred! -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Nomenclature Date: 28 May 1998 23:59:35 -0500 Ray Montgomery wrote: > > Is there a book or list or doc of any sort that > gives the nomenclature of the Mset? I keep reading > comments about the first bud past the alligator's > mouth - or some such, and people seem to know the > location that is being referred to. > Try this link out for a couple of interesting facts: http://math.bu.edu/DYSYS/FRACGEOM2/node3.html Then progress over to these links: http://www.mcasco.com/mset.html http://home.earthlink.net/~mrob/muency.html And finally try this one out: http://www.mcasco.com/jset.html Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Japan & Linda Subject: Re: (fractint) Nomenclature Date: 28 May 1998 22:04:33 -0700 Ray, There is an excellant web page with this information. It is entitled "PGD's Quick Guide to the Mandelbrot Set" I bookmarked it as soon as I saw it. It will help you out. http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/manguide.html If you have any trouble getting there e-mail me back. Enjoy it. Fiddler Ray Montgomery wrote: > > Good nice, rainy evening > > Is there a book or list or doc of any sort that gives the nomenclature of > the Mset? I keep reading comments about the first bud past the alligator's > mouth - or some such, and people seem to know the location that is being > referred to. > And is there a like nomenclature for the basic Julia image? > Thank you. > Ray -- \\///// [P{) (O O) +----oOO-(_)-OOo------------+ | That upon which you dwell | | in the mind you become. | | ICQ:507219 | + ---==*> MIM <*==--- + Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (fractint) Fractint Shower Curtain + other homely pars Date: 29 May 1998 02:04:45 EDT Hi Everybody! Here is a set of 4 pars that evoke everyday things seen in the home. Each differs greatly from the others in color and form. Amazing how fractals can reflect our human environment. Enjoy! ****************************************************************************** ************* Shower_Curtain { ;Fractint shower curtain - Version 20 has matching towels ;(c)1998 by Mark Aksoy, maksoy@aol.com ;Calc. time on a P90 at 640x480 = 0:02:02.10 reset=1960 type=escher_julia center-mag=-0.98961778942708200/-0.08482268467636789/122.7972/1/-95.547/\ 1.091 params=0.32/0.043 float=y inside=period outside=atan decomp=256 colors=Zuz0Uucuz0fzcuz0kzctz<14>jmiklgmlflke<16>tcMubKubL<26>ZclYcmYcm<3\ 0>wcLxbKwaK<17>QHDPGDPHE<44>wyxxzzwyz<45>69j<14>uFK<13>53f12h00e11h00f11\ h00g08g00h } My_Packing_Tape { ; Handy for sending large pars thru the email ; (c)1998 by Mark Aksoy, maksoy@aol.com ; Calc. time on a P90 at 640x480 = 0:05:13.73 reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=conj/atanh center-mag=0.13829/0.443199/0.1464294/1/-27.552/0.014 params=0/0/10 inside=zmag outside=summ colors=000<15>z00<15>000F70<12>qR0tT0wU0zV0wU0<14>F70000<15>zz0<15>00058\ 3<15>bzT<15>583080<15>0z0<15>080084<15>0zz<15>084005<15>00z<15>00550C<12\ >P0qR0tS0wT0zS0w<6>H0a } Fractal_Pincushion { ; Pins and needles (and stalks?) go here ;(c)1998 by Mark Aksoy, maksoy@aol.com ;Calc. time on a P90 at 640x480 = 0:02:58.84 reset=1821 type=sqr(1/fn) function=sin center-mag=+1.57849121150000000/-0.00926208500000003/1.471165/0.9995 inside=bof60 colors=000rrtvvwzzz<14>44N000<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<\ 15>00z<15>000<15>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<12>nnq } Fractal_Wristwatch { ; A timepiece of beauty in an age of chaos... ;colorcycle to get it ticking!! ;(c)1998 by Mark Aksoy, maksoy@aol.com ;Calc. time on a P90 at 640x480 = 0:01:16.35 reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=conj/cos center-mag=-3.56875614001061400/+1.08110566967974200/6.475259e+007/1/-77\ .5 params=0/0/10 float=y inside=zmag outside=summ decomp=256 colors=5oc<24>1AJ08I08I<4>07F<12>paa<2>dUU`RRZPP<9>F55D33D00<2>A00<15>eX\ 0gZ0ja0mc0<3>wk0<3>mc1kb1i`2f_3<16>3AH08I08I<19>964964A74<5>C92D92E93<28\ >n`_paapaa<28>keBjfAlhA<6>zuD<27>Bm`9la8nc<5>5zk5xi5vg5te<2>5oc } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) gravipop Date: 28 May 1998 23:38:37 -0700 (nice par at end of message) Hi, I was inspired by Bob Margolis' popcorn_julia series. I really liked the effect and thought I would try to apply the popcorn transfomation to some other formulas, like gravijul. I made several attempts at "gravipop" but was unable to come up with anything except a blank screen or hash. Can anyone just send me a workable version of Popcorn Jul? (It works as built-in but I have been unable to reproduce it to fool around with it.) Fractint says: x=x-h*sin(y+tan(3*y)) y=y-h*sin(x+tan(3*x)) applied to the classic Julia formula. I tried to just reproduce popcorn-jul to see if I had the concept but was unable to make it work. I'm not sure if I'm just missing a little something or a major concept in formula writing- a little unclear what is initialization and what is iterating when there are several variables. gravipop {;does NOT work ;5-28-98 kathy roth x=xpixel, y=ypixel: h=imag(p3) w=fn1(x) x=fn3(p1/fn2(x*x)) + p2 v=fn1(y) y=fn3(p1/fn2(y*y)) +p2 x=x-h*sin(y+tan(3*y)) y=y-h*sin(x+tan(3*x)) |x+y|4EG4DE3BC39A278<3>000\ svv<6>AUU<22>000zzz<6>UdW<16>9CB7B9\ 698586465<2>000zzz<6>fbHcZAbYA<21>000\ zzz<7>mU5<22>000zzz<5>fSTbMNaMN<22>\ 000zzz<6>WQ_<16>B8B979868656545<2>000\ zzz<7>PPZ<22>000zzz<6>Hii<4>D_` } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) pars Date: 29 May 1998 00:08:15 -0700 Here are some pars inspired by David Shanholtzer's Alter_to_Sun based on Paul Carlson's Euler2_3way. alien_carolers { ; 5-28-98 kathy roth ; frm by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=euler2_3way function=tan/log/asinh passes=t center-mag=0.001899/-0.201152/0.2532432/1.2858 params=17/0/1.11/0/2048/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<2>000<7>KKQNNTQQXT\ T_VWa<3>dfkginhjn<2>kmn<13>OI\ 5<11>pgTriVulY\ xn_zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<3>KJNHGMG\ FL<10>724602702<20>Q08R09S09T0AU0A<6>`\ 0Da0Db2D<14>zVF<10>hAEaI9<6>xTF<8>H3\ AC09908<6>KBDMDEMFF<2>MMILPKNRM<9>km\ n<6>D92<3>LG4OI5QK7<12>vlYxn_yo`zp\ a<14>OI5000<24>000 } alien_sun { ; 5-28-98 kathy roth ; frm by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=euler2_3way function=atanh/log/asinh passes=t center-mag=0.001899/-0.0429369/0.3385604/1.2858 params=17/0/1.11/0/2048/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000vvlwwm<15>0mm<7>8eb9da9d\ a<12>1VQ0UP1UP<11>GaPHaPIbPKcPKcQLdR<1\ 9>bvkcwmbvl<30>MS2LR0MS0<36>st4<5>TZQL\ SXGO`CLd<7>Ums<5>hrwhrwgqv<31>OOlN\ NlOOl<43>uul } alien_organ { ; ha ha ; 5-28-98 kathy roth ; frm by Paul Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Euler2_3Way function=cos/acos/asinh passes=t center-mag=-2.39013/0.106421/0.1903877 params=20/0/1.11/0/2048/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<2>000<7>KKQNNTQQXTT_VWa<3>dfk\ ginhjn<2>kmn<13>OI5<11>pgTriVulY\ xn_zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<3>KJNHGMGFL<10>7\ 24602702<20>Q08R09S09T0AU0A<6>`\ 0Da0Db2D<14>zVF<10>hAEaI9<6>xTF<8>H3AC\ 09908<6>KBDMDEMFF<2>MMILPKNRM<9>km\ n<6>D92<3>LG4OI5QK7<12>vlYxn_yo`zp\ a<14>OI5000<24>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Shower Curtain + other homely pars Date: 29 May 1998 21:51:28 +1200 At 02:04 29/05/98 EDT, MAksoy@aol.com wrote: >Hi Everybody! >Here is a set of 4 pars that evoke everyday things seen in the home. Each >differs greatly from the others in color and form. Amazing how fractals can >reflect our human environment. Enjoy! > >Shower_Curtain { ;Fractint shower curtain - Version 20 has matching towels > >My_Packing_Tape { ; Handy for sending large pars thru the email > >Fractal_Pincushion { ; Pins and needles (and stalks?) go here > >Fractal_Wristwatch { ; A timepiece of beauty in an age of chaos... > And now that we have a curtain to stop water splashing all over the bathroom floor, we need somewhere for it to drain away to! Plughole { ; In the bottom of the bath. reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=chby9.frm formulaname=Ca07-09 function=cosxx center-mag=-1.38778e-017/0.621701/12.77259 params=2/-0.5/1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 outside=atan colors=000<126>yyyzzzyyy<125>000 } frm:Ca07-09{; = (2(a+6)xCa(6)-(2a+5)Ca(5))/7 a=p1 b=a*(a*(a*(a+6)+11)+6)/21 c=a+a+8 d=(a+a)*(a+11)/15+4 e=7*(a+5)/5 t=real(p2),bailout=4,z=pixel: x=real(z),y=imag(z) xx=x*x,yy=y*y Tx=fn1(b*x*(c*xx*((xx+xx)*(d*xx-e)+7)-7)) Ty=fn1(b*y*(c*yy*((yy+yy)*(d*yy-e)+7)-7)) x=x-t*Ty,y=y+t*Tx z=x+flip(y) |z|<=bailout} Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (fractint)Sun God & Inner Peace Date: 29 May 1998 06:21:32 EDT Hello fractal lovers, I've been observing the list for a while now and thought maybe I should contribute a little *art* for all to see. I've been quite simply obsessed with Fractint for about 2 yrs now, and I see no end to the amount of images which it is capable of producing. Unfortunately, I know nothing of the math involved, or how to create my own formulae just yet, but that doesn't stop me from having loads of fun making eye-appealing images every single day! I hope I'm posting these 2 parmfiles correctly. This is my first contribution, so forgive me if it doesn't work. :) James Weaver(JimBeau549@aol.com) ****************************************************************************** ************ The Sun God { ; 5/23/98 image(c) JamesWeaver reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=cotan/ident passes=t center-mag=-0.00000000000000111/-0.00000000000000133/0.6751793/1/-90 params=-0.2/0/1 float=y bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 colors=000888444000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N\ <15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<10>3nn3rr\ 5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>0f0<15>\ zz0<15>zzz<12>CCC } Inner Peace { ; 2min17sec. 75mhz ; 5/25/98 image(c) JamesWeaver reset=1960 type=mandelfn function=sin passes=1 center-mag=-19.3365/0/0.02555567/1/90 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=bof60 invert=10/-0.5/0 colors=0000B0<11>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>j\ B0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795\ 574354033077<10>3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1\ jf1f<10>000<2>080 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: (fractint)Sun God & Inner Peace Date: 29 May 1998 07:33:22 -0400 Jim, >The Sun God One small tip - Fractint stops recognizing an entry name at the first blank, "(", or "{". Your entry will therefore appear in menu screens as simply "The". You can get the whole name to show by using underscores, i.e. The_Sun_God. George Martin Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Kaplan Subject: Re: (fractint) Permission denied to download Fractint from Spanky??!?? Date: 29 May 1998 07:46:38 -0400 (EDT) > > >I get a 403 (access denied) accessing the Fractint web pages at Spanky... what > >the hell??? > > Going through other Spanky pages I find the Fractint page has been moved to > /www/fractint/fractint.html, but that still doesn't explain my getting a 403, > as a 404 is what should have occurred! OT but brief: Some http servers are configured (or can be set) to always return 403 or always 404, mainly as a security feature to prevent using http to probe the filestructure of the server. Some others, of course, are just written a bit carelessly. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) question about time Date: 29 May 1998 07:31:01 -0500 Joe Pearson wrote: > > Paul, add (or change) a line in your sstools.ini like this: > comment=______________(c)_Joe_Pearson_$date$_t=$calctime$/ > time_on_486-75_640x480 > Just now getting around to reading some "older" posts. You can automatically include the resolution in your comments by using the following: /_$xdots$x$ydots$_/ Which should come out as showing the horizontal-res, then an 'x', followed by the vertical-res. (Example: 640x480) Same goes for including the '$version$' to show what level of FractInt. P.N.L. Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) FRM: gravipop Date: 29 May 1998 08:29:20 -0700 I think it's because you're not using w & v. Try this: gravipop {;might work? ;5-28-98 kathy roth x=xpixel, y=ypixel: h=imag(p3) w=fn1(x) ; x=fn3(p1/fn2(x*x)) + p2 x=fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 v=fn1(y) ; y=fn3(p1/fn2(y*y)) +p2 y=fn3(p1/fn2(v*v)) +p2 x=x-h*sin(y+tan(3*y)) y=y-h*sin(x+tan(3*x)) |x+y| Subject: (fractint) gravipop Date: 29 May 1998 11:54:30 -0400 Hi Kathy, >> Can anyone just send me a workable version of Popcorn Jul? PopcornJul (origin) {; adaptation by Bradley Beacham [74223,2745] ; The next line sets h=3D0.05 if real(p1)<=3D0, else h=3Dreal(p1) h =3D (0.05 * (real(p1)<=3D0) + real(p1) * (0> Here's a par from popcornjul: >> >> beach_at_kehena { ; 5-28-98 kathy roth Very nice image! Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat - problem solved!? Date: 29 May 1998 13:24:21 EDT Hi Peter, hi Les, thanks for your response about partobat 3.5. I will send your messages to Michael Peters. Cheers --Jo-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (fractint) missing "O" on my site Date: 29 May 1998 13:24:20 EDT Hi, 'scuse me. I added the missing "o" and maps3 is downloadable from my site. Cheers --Jo-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: (fractint) Paul's frm; my par and colormap Date: 29 May 1998 10:37:13 -0700 This one is a little off balance but I like it anyway. Do what you can with the colormap. Great formula, Paul! Thanks! Linda http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/ (last update 5/29/98) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519 (last update 5/29/98) http://www.toptown.com/innercircle/gumbycat/index.html (last update 3/20/98) ------------------begin--------------- 0528pc01 { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 29, 1998 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com ; calc time 0:01:28.59 ; formula by Paul Carlson; colormap by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=0528pc01.par formulaname=fb_halley_m4 passes=t center-mag=+1.01281940334334200/+1.75425472636706300/290410.5/0.9719/29. \ 999 params=1/0/0.9350000000000001/0/0.17/0 float=y maxiter=25000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=A04onl<13>WQGUODSNC<11>000qqq<27>000wRF<6>mG8kE6jD6<2>fA5d94c83a7 \ 2_61<6>J31H31E21B20<3>000g28<28>211pon<14>WQGUODSNC<11>000qqq<28>000wRF< \ 8>lG8jF8iE7gD7fC6dA5<13>000g28<28>000e6Ed4Eb2E`0D<11>A04pon } frm:fb_halley_m4 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; Halley solution of w^4 - w - c = 0 ; Always use float=y, outside=summ ; p1 = relaxation factor ; p2 = radius of center of ring (0.01 to 10) ; p3 = one half thickness of ring (0.01 to p2) c = pixel w = z = iter = bailout = 0 d0 = p2 + p3 d1 = 0.382683432365 * p2 d2 = 0.923879532511 * p2 dsqd = d0 * d0 + p2 * p2 - (d0 + d0) * d2 : w2 = w * w, fnc = w2 * w2 - w - c, der = 4 * w * w2 - 1 k = p1 * fnc / (der - 12 * w2 * fnc / (der + der)) w = w - k ; IF ((abs(cabs(w) - p2) < p3) && iter > 0) bailout = 1 wr = real(w), wi = imag(w) awr = abs(wr), awi = abs(wi) IF (awr >= awi) dist = (awr - d2) * (awr - d2) + (awi - d1) * (awi - d1) adjust = 1 ELSE dist = (awr - d1) * (awr - d1) + (awi - d2) * (awi - d2) adjust = 0 ENDIF IF (wr >= 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 1 - adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 2 + adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi < 0) range_num = 5 - adjust ELSE range_num = 6 + adjust ENDIF ratio = sqrt(dist / dsqd) z = 29 * ratio + range_num * 30 + 1 ELSEIF (|k| < 0.000001) bailout = 1 z = 252 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 } -----------------end----------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noel giffin Subject: Re: (fractint) Permission denied to download Fractint from Spanky??!?? Date: 29 May 1998 11:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Paul wrote: > Going through other Spanky pages I find the Fractint page has been moved to > /www/fractint/fractint.html, but that still doesn't explain my getting a 403, > as a 404 is what should have occurred! The fractint pages have not moved! They have been at: http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html for a few years now! As for the return code, here are the definitions. ===================================================================== Forbidden 403 The request is for something forbidden. Authorization will not help. Not found 404 The server has not found anything matching the URI given ===================================================================== By trying to access /fractint/fractint.html rather than /www/fractint/fractint.html It looks,to the http server,that you are trying to access a directory tree that it is not permitted to serve, hence the 403 return code. Regards, Noel Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) FRM: gravipop Date: 29 May 1998 11:29:33 -0700 At 08:29 AM 5/29/98 -0700, you wrote: >I think it's because you're not using w & v. Try this: >... You may also have a problem with overwriting variables. Set up a dummy "x"... gravipop {;might work? ;5-28-98 kathy roth x=xpixel, y=ypixel: h=imag(p3) w=fn1(x) ; x=fn3(p1/fn2(x*x)) + p2 x=fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 v=fn1(y) ; y=fn3(p1/fn2(y*y)) +p2 y=fn3(p1/fn2(v*v)) +p2 ; x=x-h*sin(y+tan(3*y)) x1=x-h*sin(y+tan(3*y)) ; dummy x y=y-h*sin(x+tan(3*x)) x = x1 ; update x |x+y| I'm quite sure they were made of magnetic monopoles. Well, the cheap ones of > course. The 'elite' editions were often magnetic hexapoles. > > Christian > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (fractint) 3 little pars Date: 29 May 1998 16:50:34 EDT Here's 3 more parmfiles for anyone who just wants to view fractals as *art* :) Enjoy~ Jim ****************************************************************************** ****************** Apache { ; 2min 75mhz 800x600 ; 5/29/98 image(c)JamesWeaver reset=1920 type=formula formulafile=jack5.frm formulaname=ormandel15 function=conj passes=t center-mag=-0.0420168/1.33227e-015/0.625/1/-90 params=-3/0 maxiter=125 outside=real potential=255/255/0 invert=1/0/0 colors=000404000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<1\ 4>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>\ 795574354033077<13>4zz<15>zz0<15>z1z<13>808 } Rose { ; 1.5min 75mhz 800x600 ; 5/29/98 image(c) JamesWeaver reset=1960 type=halley passes=t center-mag=-4.88498e-015/0.11099/0.622417 params=5/0.2/0.025/-0.24 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=epsiloncross outside=real invert=1/0/0 periodicity=0 colors=0002I2<7>171151020000313717A20<12>cAP<10>H43E30A2A<2>000<15>hh0<1\ 5>000<3>00D00H22I<10>PP`<7>77L55J33H00E00A007003000<2>A00<2>L80OA0RD0UG0\ YJ0<5>rZ0<11>400A00<2>000<15>0pp<12>0BB077044000222<14>hhh<15>000<27>007\ 017037<13>4S4<6>2J2 } A_Dance_with_Julia { ; 2.5min 75mhz 800x600 ; 5/29/98 image(c) JamesWeaver reset=1960 type=julia(fn||fn) function=cotanh/flip passes=t center-mag=+0.61309814450000000/-0.35420227000000000/0.6420237/1/45 params=0.8/-1.1/1 bailoutest=manh outside=atan colors=000OOO<5>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N\ <15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<13>4zz<15\ >zz0<15>z1z<15>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<8>SSS } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (fractint) Graphics Developers Date: 29 May 1998 17:00:28 EDT Hi, well, I hope that there is no rule which said that it is forbidden what I have done. For all of you, who haven't access to Compuserve's Graphics Developers Forum - but would like to see the work that there was :-(( done - I added all the pars to my download page, sorted by years. Because of my limited webspace I had to delete all frm's (use George Martin's Orgform), doc's, Txt's and so on.... I hope you enjoy the magnificent stuff, it gives you and your machine years of pleasure. Cheers --Jo-- http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber member of the Infinite Fractal Loop Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) For_Steve_Karl (Par) Date: 29 May 1998 18:26:42 -0400 Having a few minutes this evening, I anticipated looking at a few pars since there must be 17^36 pars scattered around inside this machine. After looking at some, I would either tinker a bit, discard, keep - whatever. First up: 001-Jester by Steve Karl. In which I tinkered a bit and came up with this (Send flames to your local tax collection agency): ==========================================================================> For_Steve_Karl { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 29, 1998 t=0:00:46.58 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; color map: by "O" reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=cosxx/sin/zero passes=t center-mag=1.77636e-015/-1.77636e-015/0.1626667 params=1/0/2/0/99/0 maxiter=1410065407 inside=99 potential=256/200/33 invert=2.61459764833333/0/0 colors=000<7>0000ZT<13>074<3>0A60B70B80B8<52>0mi0nj0mi<30>096FCC<18>wp`<\ 26>FCCD00G00<24>`F0000bG0cH0dI0<41>G0008D<6>0KL000<9>000 } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William J. Hawley" Subject: (fractint) Orgform.exe Date: 29 May 1998 18:25:09 -0500 This may already be fix in new version but I found Orgform gave an "unspecified exception" running in DOS under Win95 and just hangs in pure DOS on a P-II 350. Worked fine before the upgrade. -- William J. Hawley bhawley@compucom.com at work wjhawley@icon-stl.net at play -- When companies ship Styrofoam, what do they pack it in? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Popcorn Formula Date: 29 May 1998 18:25:11 -0500 (CDT) comment { The formula popcorn_jul below produces the same images as the builtin type, provided that float=yes. The builtin type can use integer math, but if it is used in the formula, the tan() function fails when 3*y or 3*x is close to a multiple of pi/2. The popcorn1 par produces the same image as does the builtin type with the defaults. Just to see what would happen, I applied one of my rendering methods to the formula to produce the formula pc_popcorn_jul. Pars popcorn2, 3 and 4 use this formula. The images are, well, differnt, but they do look sort of artistic. I'll probably try some other rendering method on the popcorn when I get a chance. Paul Carlson } frm:popcorn_jul { ; Paul Carlson, 1998 ; Always use float=yes ; ; real(p1) = h in popcorn formula ; imag(p1) = bailout value ; x = real(pixel) y = imag(pixel) h = real(p1) : prev_x = x x = x - h * sin(y + tan(3 * y)) y = y - h * sin(prev_x + tan(3 * prev_x)) z = x + flip(y) |z| <= imag(p1) } popcorn1 { ; Paul Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=popform.frm formulaname=popcorn_jul corners=-3/3/-2.25/2.25 params=0.05/4 float=y colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555\ <3>HHHKKKOOOSSSWWW___ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0\ z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zVz<3>zVV<3>zzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zh\ z<3>zhh<3>zzh<3>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00S<3>S0S<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>\ 0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2>EHSKKS<2>QKSSKSS\ KQSKOSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3>G0G<3\ >G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<2>GE8GG8\ EG8CG8AG88G8<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<2>GFBG\ GBFGBDGBCGBBGB<2>BGFBGGBFGBDGBCG000<6>000 } frm:pc_popcorn_jul { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; Always use float=yes ; ; real(p1) = h in popcorn formula ; imag(p1) = bailout value ; real(p2) = controls width of elements ; imag(p2) not used ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; z = iter = bailout = range_num = 0 x = real(pixel) y = imag(pixel) h = real(p1) width = real(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / width : prev_x = x x = x - h * sin(y + tan(3 * y)) y = y - h * sin(prev_x + tan(3 * prev_x)) w = x + flip(y) dist = abs(|w|-.25) IF (dist < width && iter > 0) bailout = 1 z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < imag(p1) } popcorn2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pc_pop.frm formulaname=pc_popcorn_jul center-mag=0.0167448/0.620048/14.42221 params=0.05/16/0.05/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } popcorn3 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pc_pop.frm formulaname=pc_popcorn_jul center-mag=0.0102518/0.407039/24.84469 params=0.05/16/0.04/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } popcorn4 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pc_pop.frm formulaname=pc_popcorn_jul center-mag=0.00820949/0.605735/43.74066 params=0.05/16/0.04/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Paul's frm; my par and colormap Date: 29 May 1998 18:34:37 -0500 (CDT) Beautiful image, Linda! And thanks for the great colormap. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (fractint) Quickie4 par/frm Date: 29 May 1998 21:32:34 EDT I think i've become addicted to fractalizing! I find my self just wanting to do it. One day a week I like to spend exploring par,map, or frm files of someone elses work exclusively. (Not regularly but chaotically). Paul Carlson came back to me with images that are great together with mine in one file. The differing points of view on an image, map, par are refreshing and educational. This posting includes three pars evolved from Paul Carlsons 'butterfIly' using Newt_Fangs_Mset. I am posting three of the strange places I visited. Celtic_Braid { ; RSP 29MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf003.frm formulaname=rsp_3080 passes=t center-mag=-6.66134e-016/4.44089e-016/0.9861933 params=3/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 periodicity=0 colors=000000zb0<12>740310000`QV<12>423111000S8`<12>304101000OUY<10>5794\ 56234111000zVW<12>733311000e3L<11>703502201000kmx<12>567223000_mj<12>465\ 1220000OJ<11>043021011000ohh<12>655222000www<12>777333000jQU<12>52321100\ 0i0w<12>507203000CWn<5>6HS5FP4DL3BH28E16A146013000iXc<14>000_mj<13>122 } Green_Purple { ; RSP 29MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf003.frm formulaname=rsp_3080 passes=t center-mag=-0.109036/0.176311/0.9114 params=3/0.1 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=0 colors=0004ly<9>VtCYu6Ys7<12>iIQ<18>w73x61w61<31>RUHPVIPVI<12>_VPPNG<3>_\ C6b93cA3<20>xjM<22>gI6fG5fG5<18>mPMnQNnROnSPnTQ<23>mxolzqlzo<18>Vy1<32>P\ T4OS5MVD<4>7ip } Filigre { ; RSP 28MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf003.frm formulaname=rsp_3090 passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=-1/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real logmap=yes periodicity=0 colors=000cdW<9>kxN<12>D8Q<9>bf9d_PfTeiLv<9>xic<3>GcnFjfDrY<2>CugCvkCuj<\ 15>G`NH_LJYN<8>`Bjb8mb8m<38>OAjNBiPEk<4>ZWv<6>p8As42s42<61>spyspyspx<48>\ rf_ } Abstract { ; RSP 28MAY98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf003.frm formulaname=rsp_3091 center-mag=0.724525/-0.0076309/18.05907 params=3/0.35/0/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=real periodicity=0 colors=000KIF<84>y_PCFE<47>NceCFENde<17>RmpSnqSmq<25>LNwKLxKLx<3>LMuLYU<\ 47>UngCFE<15>KIF } Super_Slinkie { ; *RSP 29MAY98 ; Mutant of "butterfly" by Paul W. Carlson reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list.par formulaname=newt_fang_mset function=sin/sqr passes=t center-mag=1.5708/8.88178e-016/0.3529607/1.1481/-90 params=0.65/0/12/12/8/30 float=y maxiter=253 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGG\ z<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<13>000 orbitdelay=25 } Fractal_Spanner { ; *RSP 29MAY98 ; Mutant of "butterfly" by Paul W. Carlson ; Using Newt_Fang_Mset reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_n.frm formulaname=newt_fang_mset function=sin/sqr passes=t center-mag=-0.467691/-0.895814/7.225695/1.1481/-90 params=0.65/0/12/12/8/30 float=y maxiter=253 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGG\ z<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<13>000 orbitdelay=25 } Old_Friend { ; *RSP 29MAY98 ; Mutant of "butterfly" by Paul W. Carlson ; Using Newt_Fang_Mset reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_n.frm formulaname=newt_fang_mset function=sinh/tan passes=t center-mag=-0.659698/-0.77642/26.55023/1.1481/-90 params=0.55/0/12/2/2/30 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGG\ z<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<13>000 orbitdelay=25 } frm:rsp_3080 { ;*RSP 29MAY98 z=pixel, n=p1: z=z^n*sin(1/z)} frm:rsp_3090 { ;*RSP 29MAY98 z=pixel, n=p1: z=z^n*sin(n/z)} frm:rsp_3091 { ;*RSP 29MAY98 z=pixel, bail=(64*(|p2|<=0)+p2), n=(1*(|p1|<=0)+p1): z=z^n*sin(n/z) |z|<=bail} Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) gravipop (par and frm) Date: 29 May 1998 19:49:35 -0700 Thank you, Sylvie. I have gotten it to work, and it does have the watercolor-like effect that I was hoping to get, although I inelegantly just put the gravijul formula in after the popcornjul, so I guess it iterates pocornjul and then feeds the new x and y into z and then iterates gravijul. (Oh, also, I made a copy-and-paste error and repeated part of it in the first few pars I made, and oddly enough the images are nearly identical but ever so slightly different, so Agravipop lives!) frm:gravipop { ;5-29-98 kathy roth ;imag p3 must be positive x=real(pixel), y=imag(pixel), h=imag(p3): newx = x-h*sin((y) + tan(3*y)) newy = y-h*sin((x) + tan(3*x)) x=newx, y=newy z=x + flip(y) w = fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 |z| < real(p3) } frm:agravipop { ;5-29-98 kathy roth ;my mistake! ;imag p3 must be positive x=real(pixel), y=imag(pixel), h=imag(p3): newx = x-h*sin((y) + tan(3*y)) newy = y-h*sin((x) + tan(3*x)) x=newx, y=newy z=x + flip(y) newx = x-h*sin((y) + tan(3*y)) newy = y-h*sin((x) + tan(3*x)) x=newx, y=newy z=x + flip(y) w = fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 |z| < real(p3) } agrav1 { ; 5-29-98 kathy roth ; palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=1popco~1.frm formulaname=agravipop function=cotanh/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=-0.252347/-0.701005/0.2051282/1/90 params=1/1/1/1/1/0.05 float=y inside=111 outside=atan decomp=256 colors=I8F<6>unr<7>8F8<7>ly\ l<7>05A<7>cru<7>444<7>mmz<7>I8F<7>zmm<7>A00<7\ >zzg<7>N13<7>z_K<7>g50<7>zvn<7>I8\ F<7>ghl<7>08C<7>ata<7>A0A<7>Zrk<7>C40<7\ >zii<7>F00<7>zrc<7>N57<7>yZJ<7>c\ 20<7>zaV<7>F00<7>sog<7>I8F } agrav2 { ; 5-29-98 kathy roth ; palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=1popco~1.frm formulaname=agravipop function=cotanh/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=-0.0233255/0.0236748/1.888146/1/90 params=1/1/1/1/1/0.05 float=y inside=111 outside=atan invert=1/0/0 decomp=256 colors=I8F<6>unr<7>8F8<7>lyl<7>05\ A<7>cru<7>444<7>mmz<7>I8F<7>zmm<7>A00<7\ >zzg<7>N13<7>z_K<7>g50<7>zvn<7>I8F<7>g\ hl<7>08C<7>ata<7>A0A<7>Zrk<7>C40<7\ >zii<7>F00<7>zrc<7>N57<7>yZJ<7>c20<7>z\ aV<7>F00<7>sog<7>I8F } agrav3 { ; 5-29-98 kathy roth ; palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=1popco~1.frm formulaname=gravipop function=cotanh/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=-0.00217967/0.156643/6.478437/1/180 params=1/1/1/1/1/0.05 float=y inside=111 outside=atan invert=1/0/0 decomp=256 colors=I8F<6>unr<7>8F8<7>lyl<7>0\ 5A<7>cru<7>444<7>mmz<7>I8F<7>zmm<7>A00<7\ >zzg<7>N13<7>z_K<7>g50<7>zvn<7>I\ 8F<7>ghl<7>08C<7>ata<7>A0A<7>Zrk<7>C40<7\ >zii<7>F00<7>zrc<7>N57<7>yZJ<7>c2\ 0<7>zaV<7>F00<7>sog<7>I8F } agrav7 { ;wave_at_kehena ; 5-29-98 kathy roth ; palette by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=1popco~1.frm formulaname=agravipop function=atanh/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=0.0613823/-1.37103/3.205128 params=1/1/1/1/1/0.05 float=y inside=111 outside=atan decomp=256 colors=zzz99C<7>000UeeUeeUeefss<3>H\ ii<13>6IK5GI4EG4DE3BC39A<4>000svv<6>A\ UU<22>000zzz<6>UdW<18>69858646534322\ 2000zzz<6>fbHcZAbYA<21>000zzz<7>mU5<\ 22>000zzz<5>fSTbMNaMN<22>000\ zzz<6>WQ_<18>868656545333222000zzz<7>PPZ<13>\ AAE } agrav4 { ; 5-29-98 kathy roth ; palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=1popco~1.frm formulaname=agravipop function=cotanh/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=0.170858/-3.95507/2.385212/1/90 params=1/1/1/1/1/0.05 float=y inside=111 outside=atan decomp=256 colors=I8F<6>unr<7>8F8<7>lyl<7>05\ A<7>cru<7>444<7>mmz<7>I8F<7>zmm<7>A00<7\ >zzg<7>N13<7>z_K<7>g50<7>zvn<7>I8F<7>g\ hl<7>08C<7>ata<7>A0A<7>Zrk<7>C40<7\ >zii<7>F00<7>zrc<7>N57<7>yZ\ J<7>c20<7>zaV<7>F00<7>sog<7>I8F } agrav5 { ; underwater scene ; 5-29-98 kathy roth colors=0df0fh<6>0xz<15>077<30>1Te\ 1Uf000<30>000000122<12>BGJFJV<13>W`uXaw\ W_u<14>H5S<24>zo`<3>vkW0uw<33>699777\ 6AA<10>0cc0_`0_c0000II0_`<21>000<15>\ 0de } agrav3a { ; blue sky ; 5-29-98 ; palette by Sylvie Gallet colors=frqqqr<24>JgnHfmHfm<27>Vno\ WnoXnoYopZop<3>bqpdqqerqgsqhsq<14>xyrzz\ syzr<17>coVbnUbnU<31>9TB<15>wlL<14>yy\ fzzhxyh<26>5Wd2Uc2Vc<16>9kc9lcAmcBm\ c<26>rrqtrqvrqxsrzts<4>srr } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) PAR: Fractal Excursions--Julias Date: 29 May 1998 21:59:37 -0500 Julia_19 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julia passes=1 center-mag=-4.09273e-012/5.57066e-012/0.001533216/1.3333 params=-1.368978552267218/-0.006854015395267692 float=y maxiter=250 invert=0.5/0/0 symmetry=none periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzz<15>E0SF0UH0X<12>407zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12\ >808zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<1\ 5>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020 cyclerange=1/1 } Julia_20 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julia passes=1 center-mag=+0.00000000000000094/-0.00000000000000070/1927.345 params=-1.369777474770824/0.01233349857882306 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=bof61 outside=real distest=2/2/768/768 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzzc_q<8>90eA0h<13>206zzz<15>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020wwx\ <14>E0SF0UH0X<12>407zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12>808zzz<15\ >Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<5>fcs cyclerange=1/1 } Julia_21 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-3.63798e-012/-7.34267/0.0001320463/1.75 params=-0.5618229724187631/-0.3159772088666649/3/0 float=y maxiter=1000 invert=0.5/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1.75/yes/0/0 colors=zzzbWi<7>E0SF0UH0X<12>407zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<\ 12>808zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz\ <15>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020wwx<5>e_k cyclerange=1/1 } Julia_22 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=b center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=0.3273988610891286/1.278119418133082/3/0 float=y maxiter=400 bailoutest=and fillcolor=105 outside=real potential=64/64/0 invert=0.5/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzzzzz<15>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020wwx<14>E0SF0UH0X<12>40\ 7zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12>808zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zz\ z<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206 cyclerange=1/1 } Julia_23 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-4.44089e-016/4.44089e-016/0.9363296 params=0.4517283971636711/0.02396779830841721/3/0 float=y maxiter=400 bailoutest=or symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzz<20>zzzD0P<8>407zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12>808\ zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<15>sW\ 0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020 cyclerange=1/1 } Julia_24 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-3.33067e-016/3.33067e-016/0.7788162 params=0.2871576143465159/0.7348347289566918/3/0 float=y maxiter=600 bailoutest=real symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=zzz<10>zzzzzzxocxocxochR0hR0hR0xocxocE0R<9>407zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12\ >068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12>808zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zz\ z<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<15>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020 cyclerange=1/1 } Julia_25 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-1.33227e-014/2.10942e-015/0.7478269/1.75 params=0.3181991470478923/0.6822242657333791/3/0 float=y maxiter=900 bailoutest=manr inside=bof60 biomorph=147 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1.75/yes/0/0 colors=zzz<31>zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12>808zzz<15>Kg0Lj\ 0Nn0<12>470zzz<63>zzz<15>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020 cyclerange=1/1 } Julia_26 { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998 reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=-8.32667e-017/-2.77556e-017/3.306573 params=-0.5533187340563496/-0.132799603919759/3/0 float=y maxiter=900 bailoutest=manh symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<63>000Cnz<11>y0yz0z<2>x0xu0vs0to0rl0oh0kc0gZ0dU0_O0VI0RC0L60H\ 00CO00<3>bO0eU0iZ0lc0oh0rl0to0vs0wu0yx0<2>zz0<14>0zz<14>y0yz0z<2>x0xu0vs\ 0to0ql0n<2>Z0bU0YO0T<3>008K00<3>_O0cU0gZ0jc0nh0ql0so0us0wu0xx0zy0zz0zz0<\ 14>0zz<14>y0yz0z<2>x0xu0vs0so0pl0m<2>Z0`U0WO0Q<3>004<32>004 cyclerange=1/1 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) gravipop Date: 29 May 1998 20:18:42 -0700 >I think it's because you're not using w & v. Try this: >... Thanks, Bud. I think my problem was with the body of the formula and you have to look at the popcornjul formula. I think it is iterating the x and y separately and you need the newx and newy part, and a relationship between newx, newy aand z. I keep trying to make little variations on gravijul but none of them have the versatility of gravijul. Hope you have more time soon. Gotta make time for fractaling! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Off Topic: Byte Magazine to End Print Edition Date: 29 May 1998 22:34:11 -0500 If you want the full story that was announced Friday, I'll send it to you following your e-mail request. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil DiGiorgi" Subject: (fractint) PAR what if... Date: 30 May 1998 01:48:28 -0400 I was checking out all those terrific pars that have been posted using Paul Carlson's ZF_Ang formula last night, really neat images from Gedeon and Sylvie. Played around a little with the formula myself, and that fn setting really has some interesting effects. So the thought occurs to me, I wonder what that would do if I stuck it into the HC_Grav formula I've been messing with. (Note the sophisticated mathematical insight here.) Wherupon, unencumbered by any real understanding of what I was doing, I pasted the line from one formula into the other in what seemed to be an appropriate place, changed the variable names to match, loaded it up, and fed it some parameters. Here are the first few images that came out... Side note to Paul: Your formulas just amaze me, they are so much fun to work with! Please forgive my tinkering, I just can't help myself ;-) Phil D. phild@iinc.com hcg2-101 { ; t= 0:09:10.12 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 30, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-HC_Grav2 function=sqrt/conj/recip/trunc passes=t center-mag=8.88178e-016/-1.77636e-015/0.2826667 params=0.6/-0.8/0.91/0.04/0.15/0.06 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000zsX<13>mgQlfQlfQkeQkeP<43>IGAwccuZZ<3>rMMqJJpHHo\ EE<5>l00<47>J00sss<15>ffffffeeeeeeddd<41>GGG0`z0Zt<2>0Vn0Um0\ Sk0Rj0Ri<3>0Nd0Nc0Mc0Lb<46>05I00C000000 cyclerange=1/252 } hcg2-102 { ; t= 0:08:49.32 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 29, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-HC_Grav2 function=sqrt/conj/recip/exp passes=t center-mag=1.45285/-1.32873/0.6572967/1/132.5 params=0.62/-0.68/0.8/0.1/0.4/0.4 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000zsX<13>mgQlfQlfQkeQjeP<43>DC7wccuZZ<3>rMMqJJpHHo\ EE<5>l00<47>J00sss<61>5550cz0Zt<2>0Vn0Um0Sk0Rj0Ri<3>0Nd0Nc\ 0Mc<13>0ET0DS0DR0CR0CQ0BQ<26>00B00A00B00C000000 cyclerange=1/252 } hcg2-103 { ; t= 0:01:22.33 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 29, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-HC_Grav2 function=sqr/ident/recip/sqr passes=t center-mag=-0.00781069/-0.0031258/0.8118091/1/112.499 params=0.95/0/1.16/0/0.35/0.35 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000sss<61>5550cz0Zt<2>0Vn0Um0Sk0Rj0Ri<3>0Nd0Nc0Mc<13>\ 0ET0DS0DR0CR0CQ0BQ<26>00B00A00BzsX<61>221wccuZZ<3>rMMqJJp\ HHoEE<5>l00<47>40000C000000 cyclerange=1/252 } hcg2-104 { ; t= 0:01:13.60 (c) P. DiGiorgi - May 29, 1998 ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm formulaname=pd-HC_Grav2 function=log/sqr/recip/trunc passes=t center-mag=3.33436/3.55271e-015/0.2653649/1/-90 params=2/0/0/0/0.6/0.6 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000sss<61>5550cz0Zt<2>0Vn0Um0Sk0Rj0Ri<3>0Nd0Nc0Mc<13>0E\ T0DS0DR0CR0CQ0BQ<26>00B00A00BzsX<61>221wccuZZ<3>rMMqJJpHHo\ EE<5>l00<47>40000C000000 cyclerange=1/252 } frm:pd-HC_Grav2 {; formula by P. DiGiorgi, May, 1998 ; P. Carlson's Hi_Cycle method (modified) ; applied to Mark Christenson's Gravijul formula z = w = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 pa = real(p3), pb = imag(p3) w = pixel c = p2 i = (0,1) k = 1.2 - pb : u = fn1(w) w = fn3(p1/fn2(u*u)) wr = real(w) w = w - wr + abs(wr) - c angle = atan(imag(w)/wr) ka = k * angle / pb rw = k * cos(angle) + pb * cos(ka) iw = k * sin(angle) + pb * sin(ka) ww = rw + i * iw ww = fn4(1 - ww)/ww dist = abs(|w|-|ww|) IF (dist < pa && iter > 1) bailout = 1 index = 63 * dist / pa z = index + range_num * 63 + 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == 4) range_num = 0 ENDIF z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 100 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Camp" Subject: (fractint) Re: gravipop (par and frm) Date: 29 May 1998 22:56:51 -0700 I liked your formula! Here's a couple par's with my attempts with your formula.... jon camp ___________________________ chaotic n-space network http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/index.html Valparaiso University <>< http://wwwstage.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/ftp_cnspace/jcamp04.gif http://wwwstage.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/ftp_cnspace/jcamp05.gif jcamp04 { ; 1998, jon camp ; chaotic n-space network reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravipop function=cosxx/abs/sin center-mag=5.3735e-005/-8.65e-007/0.6666663 params=1/-1/-0.1/-1/0/0.1 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=bof60 outside=atan potential=256/48/0 invert=1/0/0 colors=000<6>044055056167178<5>4CF5DH6EI7FJ7GL<18>RYlSYmTZnU_oV_p<2>YasZ\ bt_bu_bu<2>bcwbcxccxddx<3>fcyfcyfcx<7>g`ug_tfZs<6>cUkcTjbSiaRg<8>UIVTHUS\ GSRFQ<9>G6CF6BE5AD49C48<4>813713602502501<4>200100100100<3>011021022033<\ 4>16716817928A29B3AC<4>6EJ7FK8GM9HNAIPBJQ<2>DMVENWGOY<8>PWjQXkRYlSZmTZo<\ 4>YasZbt_bu`bv<6>ddyedyecy<3>gcxgbxgbwgawgav<6>eYpeXoeWndVmdUl<16>QEOPDN\ NCL<8>E59D48C37B36A25925<2>612602501401400300<7>010 } jcamp05 { ; 1998, jon camp ; chaotic n-space network reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravipop function=cosxx/abs/cotanh center-mag=-0.572569/-0.183414/9.482622 params=1/-1/-0.1/-1/0/0.1 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=bof60 outside=atan potential=256/48/0 invert=1/0/0 colors=000lZL<2>qdOsfPthQujRwlS<2>yrVztWzvXzxYzzZzx_zv`<3>xndwleujfthg<5\ >jXmhWneUocSp<4>RIuOGvLEwICxFAyC8z321642863<5>RI9UKAWMBZOC<5>lZIn`JobKqd\ L<3>wlPxnQxpRyrS<3>zzWzxXzvY<3>xnawlbujcthd<5>jXjhWkeUlcSm<4>RIrOGsLEtIC\ uFAvC8w86x64y32z000001322643864<5>RIAUKBWMCZOD<5>lZJn`KobLqdM<3>wlQxnRxp\ SyrT<3>zzXzxYzvZ<3>xnbwlcujdthe<5>jXkhWleUmcSn<4>RIsOGtLEuICvFAwC8x86y64\ z320001002323644865<5>RIBUKCWMDZOE<5>lZKn`LobMqdN<3>wlRxnSxpTyrU<3>zzYzx\ Zzv_<3>xncwldujethf<5>jXlhWmeUncSo<4>RItOGuLEvICwFAxC8y86z64032100200332\ 4645866<5>RICUKDWMEZOF<4>jXK } frm:gravipop { ;5-29-98 kathy roth ;imag p3 must be positive x=real(pixel), y=imag(pixel), h=imag(p3): newx = x-h*sin((y) + tan(3*y)) newy = y-h*sin((x) + tan(3*x)) x=newx, y=newy z=x + flip(y) w = fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 |z| < real(p3) } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (fractint) Graphics Developers Date: 30 May 1998 02:58:15 EDT Hi, << well, I hope that there is no rule which said that it is forbidden what I have done. For all of you, who haven't access to Compuserve's Graphics Developers Forum - but would like to see the work that there was :-(( done - I added all the pars to my download page, sorted by years. >> I deleted the stuff from my site. --Jo-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (fractint) For_Steve_Karl (Par) Date: 30 May 1998 03:46:42 EDT In a message dated 98-05-29 18:33:36 EDT, you write: << In which I tinkered a bit and came up with this >> David! Very Cool! I love this kind of arcitectural look. Thanks for sending and especially exploring as you do. Cheers, Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) For_Steve_Karl (Par) Date: 30 May 1998 05:20:01 -0400 At 03:46 AM 5/30/1998 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-05-29 18:33:36 EDT, you write: > ><< In which I tinkered a bit and came up > with this >> >David! >Very Cool! I love this kind of arcitectural look. >Thanks for sending and especially exploring as you do. >Cheers, >Steve You're welcome! :) davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (fractint) 1 par, Arc Flats Date: 30 May 1998 07:28:29 EDT Here's a new favorite I came up with this past week ,and....yes,..I noticed the letter jumble. Jim Arc_Flats { ; 49secs 75mhz 800x600 ; 5/30/98 image(c) JamesWeaver reset=1920 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=ok-03 function=abs/cotanh passes=t center-mag=-1.06912/-2.46294/0.2031859 params=-4/0 float=y inside=bof60 invert=1/0.333/0 decomp=128 colors=0000BB<9>3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1\ jf1f<10>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0\ i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>79557\ 4354033077 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Preslar Subject: (fractint) Resource List Date: 30 May 1998 09:03:18 -0500 The following is a list of resources for FractInt users and Discussion Li= st members. (Last updated May 30, 1998)=20 *** New entries Please send all corrections, additions, and suggestions to: Janet Preslar (mailto:preslar@memphisonline.com) FractInt At Spanky =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html Mirror site =97 http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fractint.html FractInt Documentation =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/findex.html FractInt semi-official wish list =97 http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/robin.b2/olig/fracwish.htm Information, Tutorials and Explanations How to run FractInt for DOS under Windows 95 =97 http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fracwin95.html Linda Allison's Basic FractInt Hints and Tips =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/basic/basic-information.htm Wizzle's hints on getting started =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/tips-fractint.htm Linda Allison's Par and Frm tutorial =97 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/lesson.html http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/pars_and_frms/lesson.html (mirror) Linda Allison's Tutorial on Zooming =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/zoom/zoom-lesson.html Linda Allison's Tutorial on Proportioning, Sizing, and Skewing =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/proportion/proportions.htm Linda Allison's ColorMap tutorial =97 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/colors.html http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/colormaps/colormaps.htm (mirror= ) Linda Allison's Color Tricks =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/colortricks/colortricks.htm Wizzle's Color Map Magic =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/wizmaps/wizmaps.htm Damien M. Jones's Fractal Information Page =97 http://www.fractalus.com/misc/info.htm Linda Allison Explains Fractals =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/define/fractals_defined.htm Sylvie Gallet's PHC and PTC formula tutorial =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/phc/phc-tutor.html If...Else tutorial =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/If_else.html Bradley Beacham's Formula tutorial =97 =20 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/frm-tut/frm-tutor.html Wizzle's Help for FractInt Discussion List newcomers!! =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/fractint_list_q&a.htm Linda Allison's Tips and Hints for Using ParToBat (or how to have a l= ife AND generate a zillion fractals a day ;) ) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/epic.html *** Paul Derbyshire's Quick Guide to the Mandelbrot (and Julia) Sets =97 http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/manguide.html FractInt Discussion List FractInt Discussion List archive =97 ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/fractint/archive/ 1997 Contest (thumbnails of all the entries) =97 http://www.fractalus.com/contest/ The 1997 Contest Kit (Re-create the magic at home!!) =97 http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/Contestk.zip Les St. Clair's Collection of Discussion List Pars & Formulas (all the pars and frms since August 1997) =97 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/fml.htm The iFAQ (collected topics from the list) =97 http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/iFAQ.html Copyrights Discussed (and discussed) =97 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/copyright.zip ColorMaps collected and organized by Wizzle =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractint_maps/newmaps.htm Dr. J's Fractal of the Night =97 http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotNindx.html Additional Programs & Utilities George Martin's Orgfrm program =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/orgfrm.zip Ron Barnett's MakeMap utility =97 http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/makemap.zip Paul Carlson's AddGifs program =97 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/addgifs.zip Thore Berntsen's FractInt Screensaver =97 http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm Jim Prickett's XMAP and MMAP utilities =97 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9943 Michael Peter's Partobat utility (version 3.4 for slower machines) =97 http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/IBMPC/PARTOB.ZIP http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber/jo_05.htm *** Michael Peter's Partobat utility (version 3.5 for faster machines) =97 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber/jo_05.htm Infinite Fractal Loop Home Page =97 http://www.fractalus.com/ifl/ Graphical List =97 http://www.fractalus.com/ifl/list.htm Particularly Helpful Links Pages Wizzle's Graphlinks =97 http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/graphlinks.htm Fractal merchandise (posters, mouse mats, t-shirts, etc.) Lifesmith =97 http://www.lifesmith.com/ Refractal Design Inc. (fractal jewelry) =97 http://www.refractal.com Fractal-Art Mailing List *** Subscribe: majordomo@icd.com "subscribe fractal-art" *** Post Message: fractal-art@icd.com *** Get Commands: majordomo@icd.com "help" *** Administrator: fractal-art-owner@icd.com *** Unsubscribe: majordomo@icd.com "unsubscribe fractal-art" *** Archive of messages =97=20 ftp://ftp.fractalus.com/pub/lists/fractal-art/ Jim Muth's Fractal of the Day index (last few weeks) http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html Jim Muth's complete FOTD archive of PARs and FRMs http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/pars.htm Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) PAR what if... Date: 30 May 1998 09:13:46 -0500 (CDT) Phil, Excellent images! You've come up with a really nice formula! >Side note to Paul: Your formulas just amaze me, they are so >much fun to work with! Please forgive my tinkering, I just >can't help myself ;-) What's to forgive? That's exactly why I post my formulas - so that people will experiment with them , modify them and improve on them. Nice work! Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Popcorn balls formula Date: 30 May 1998 09:45:21 -0500 (CDT) comment { Here's another rendering method applied to the popcorn Julia formula (there are no balls in the images - I used a 3D balls rendering, but it comes out differently). Paul Carlson } frm:popcorn_balls {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; Always use float=y, outside=summ ; real(p1) = h in popcorn formula ; imag(p1) = bailout value ; real(p2) = controls size of balls ; imag(p2) not used ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; z = iter = bailout = range_num = 0 prev_w = pixel x = real(pixel) y = imag(pixel) h = real(p1) max_r = real(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / max_r : prev_x = x x = x - h * sin(y + tan(3 * y)) y = y - h * sin(prev_x + tan(3 * prev_x)) w = x + flip(y) ; r = |prev_w| / |w| prev_w = w IF (r < max_r && iter > 0) bailout = 1 z = index_factor * r + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 4 } popballs1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:01:20.19, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=popballs.frm formulaname=popcorn_balls passes=1 center-mag=+0.50562831655874610/+0.50561483801916560/5163.5/1\ /112.5/-43.83 params=0.1/16/1/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000<58>00000O<14>FFwGGzFFw<10>22R00O11Q<14>GGz<18>00O0\ 00<83>0000CC<14>TvvVzzUxx<21>2FF0CC000<3>000 } popballs2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:01:36.01, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=popballs.frm formulaname=popcorn_balls passes=t center-mag=9.4369e-016/-8.88178e-016/0.4420677/1/45 params=0.1/16/1/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0NT000<161>000zVz<58>bHbzVz<25>C0C000<3>000 } popballs3 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:01:12.45, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=popballs.frm formulaname=popcorn_balls passes=1 center-mag=+0.50683824918339450/+0.50683824918339550/422.5921\ /1/44.999 params=0.1/16/1/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000<58>00000O<14>FFwGGzFFw<10>11R00O00Q<15>GGz<17>00O0\ 00<81>000VVV<16>xxxzzzyyy<22>VVV000<3>000 } popballs4 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:03:11.80, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=popballs.frm formulaname=popcorn_balls passes=1 center-mag=+0.50192670477777200/+0.50192670477777300/112.4095\ /1/45 params=0.1/16/1/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000F5<14>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<\ 11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O\ 00c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<14>xw0zz0zy0<22>cK0oe0<3>cK0 } popballs5 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:02:50.76, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=popballs.frm formulaname=popcorn_balls passes=1 center-mag=+0.50369869366485040/+0.50369869366485140/579.4304\ /1/44.999 params=0.1/16/1/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000<58>00000O<14>FFwGGzFFw<10>11R00O00Q<15>GGz<17>00O0\ 00<83>000VVV<15>zzz<20>___YYYXXXVVV000<3>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) PAR 5 DiGiorgi frm pars Date: 30 May 1998 14:16:39 -0400 Here are some strange looking midgets lurking inside Phil DiGiorgi's pd-hc_grav2 formula. Gedeon g-pdg-05 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=log/sin/recip/round passes=1 center-mag=25.5522/20.7201/1.175677/1/-139.999 params=11/0/1/0/0.7/0.7 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000sss<61>5550cz0Zt<2>0Vn0Um0Sk0Rj0Ri<3>0Nd0Nc0Mc\ <15>0DR0CR0CQ0BQ0BP<25>00B00A00BzsX<61>221wccuZZ<3>\ rMMqJJpHH<6>l00<47>40000C000000 } g-pdg-06 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=log/sin/recip/round passes=1 center-mag=-0.242661/6.66134e-016/1.561719/1/-90 params=11/0/1/0/0.7/0.7 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000IMm<8>Vaz<23>00WG00<6>wIE<7>G00G0W<21>dTxfVzeTx\ <22>G0WW00<6>zhO<7>W0000W<22>0zz<23>00WG00<14>zz0<14>\ J40G00G0W<22>zPi<20>M3X00W<10>FJjHKlK2XI1WG0W } g-pdg-07 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=log/sin/recip/round passes=1 center-mag=-0.490765/5.96745e-016/17.50806/1/-90 params=11/0/1/0/0.7/0.7 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000bRv<20>G0WW00<6>zhO<7>W0000W<22>0zz<23>00WG00\ <14>zz0<14>J40G00G0W<22>zPi<20>M3X00W<20>U_yVazU_y<22>\ 00WG00<6>wIE<7>G00G0W<21>dTxfVzeTxcSwK2XI1WG0W } g-pdg-08 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=log/sin/recip/round passes=1 center-mag=+0.03474337964511127/+0.02204590\ 130046606/293.2851/1/-90 params=11/-23/1/0/0.7/0.7 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000Y81W921QC<15>Wz0<14>1QCW0W<14>zWz<15>W0W777\ <14>kkk<15>777W00<14>zWG<15>W0000W<14>0zz<15>00WG00\ <14>ylH<15>G00000<14>aaa<12>777W92<14>z00<12>_81444222000 } g-pdg-09 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=log/sin/recip/trunc passes=1 center-mag=-1.86171/2.77556e-016/6.387771/1/90 params=0/-14/2/0/0.5/0.5 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=G00D5A<3>F12G00G00<30>z0W<31>000G00<30>0z0<28>\ E60H11<29>zWW<30>H11G00G00<29>0Ux0Wz0Vy<23>C7ED6CF40F20G00 } frm:pd-HC_Grav2 {; formula by P. DiGiorgi, May, 1998 ; P. Carlson's Hi_Cycle method (modified) ; applied to Mark Christenson's Gravijul formula z = w = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 pa = real(p3), pb = imag(p3) w = pixel c = p2 i = (0,1) k = 1.2 - pb : u = fn1(w) w = fn3(p1/fn2(u*u)) wr = real(w) w = w - wr + abs(wr) - c angle = atan(imag(w)/wr) ka = k * angle / pb rw = k * cos(angle) + pb * cos(ka) iw = k * sin(angle) + pb * sin(ka) ww = rw + i * iw ww = fn4(1 - ww)/ww dist = abs(|w|-|ww|) IF (dist < pa && iter > 1) bailout = 1 index = 63 * dist / pa z = index + range_num * 63 + 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == 4) range_num = 0 ENDIF z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 100 } -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 29, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) updated web site Date: 30 May 1998 14:43:56 -0400 I added a new page to my web site featuring images based on Paul Carlson's Zf_Ang formula. I made several cosmetic changes throughout, thanks to Angela's much appreciated constructive criticism. Gedeon -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 29, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (fractint) shell to dos Date: 30 May 1998 14:52:30 EDT Grettings, I never cared a hoot about dos untill 8 months ago when I got a look at winfract.My nature seems to want to discover the best way to accomplish so ....fractint was the carrot waveing under my nose. I'm self taught with the help of kind friends and my brother who writes code for a company in D.C. "Pre-assumed" knowledge seems a given in any field as people get so far past the basics that ...well...." everyone must know this. " ex: My brothers first explination of how to start fractint in dos was something like : start dos ...from the windows directory move to the top of your Cdrive change directories to the one that contains fractint.exe and type fractint. Makes total sense now...but then... Well...I was clueless...{ whats a directory? how change? to where?} The explination we arived at that worked { for me } was type cd \ then.....etc etc Sooooo....shell to dos? Why? What is it? What for? Typeing a or selecting shell to dos in the main menue and hitting enter produces a brief { miliseconds } blip on the screen and I'm once again at the default start up mandel. In that blip is a black screen that says " your image is still hung in your video .....yada yada ....sorry ...its the best we can do. Theres no explination of this or why shell or how to shell.... in F1 or in fractint.doc. I have to assume that this 'shell to dos' thing is a normal \ basic dos phenomenon that falls into the area of " every one knows this" ....but.....but.....I'm once again clueless! Can some one explain it and assume that I haven't a clue? It would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Iain.Stirling" Subject: Re: (fractint) shell to dos Date: 30 May 1998 22:20:12 +0100 () This confusion is understandable! I take it that you are running FRACTINT for dos under WIN95. That would explain why the shell command isn't working properly (perhaps). You see, the dos shell command will run a program (called COMMAND.COM) that will provide you with a dos prompt. Under 95 (or whatever OS you use) FRACTINT must be having trouble finding COMMAND.COM, and hence you are returned straight back into FRACTINT. Shell to DOS would be used back in the good old days when people only had DOS, and therefore you could only run one program (this is 'single-tasking'). If you were running FRACTINT, and wanted to, say, check to see if a GIF had saved correctly by loading a graphics program (GWS for example), you would have to quit FRACTINT - if there was no 'shell to DOS' command. So here 'shell to DOS' allows you to quickly do something else during a session of FRACTINT. Hope that has helped, Iain G. Stirling Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) FlexBall Popcorn Formula Date: 30 May 1998 18:06:11 -0500 (CDT) comment { Here is a formula that applies my FlexBall rendering to the Popcorn Julia equations. Seems like an unlikely combination, doesn't it? But wait till you see the images - they really surprised me. My thanks to Kathy who got me to thinking about the popcorn formula. Paul Carlson } frm:FB_Popcorn {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; real(p1) = h in popcorn formula ; imag(p1) = bailout value ; real(p2) = radius of center of ring (0.01 to 10) ; imag(p2) = one half thickness of ring (0.01 to p1) ; real(p3) = iterations to skip ; imag(p3) not used ; x = real(pixel) y = imag(pixel) h = real(p1) z = iter = bailout = 0 d0 = real(p2) + imag(p2) d1 = 0.382683432365 * real(p2) d2 = 0.923879532511 * real(p2) dsqd = d0 * d0 + real(p2) * real(p2) - (d0 + d0) * d2 : prev_x = x x = x - h * sin(y + tan(3 * y)) y = y - h * sin(prev_x + tan(3 * prev_x)) w = x + flip(y) ; IF ((abs(cabs(w) - real(p2)) < imag(p2)) && iter > real(p3)) bailout = 1 wr = real(w), wi = imag(w) awr = abs(wr), awi = abs(wi) IF (awr >= awi) dist = (awr - d2) * (awr - d2) + (awi - d1) * (awi - d1) adjust = 1 ELSE dist = (awr - d1) * (awr - d1) + (awi - d2) * (awi - d2) adjust = 0 ENDIF IF (wr >= 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 1 - adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 2 + adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi < 0) range_num = 5 - adjust ELSE range_num = 6 + adjust ENDIF ratio = sqrt(dist / dsqd) z = 29 * ratio + range_num * 30 + 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < imag(p1) } fbpop01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:02:05.62, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbpop.frm formulaname=fb_popcorn passes=1 corners=1.0380148/1.2228164/0.4836099/1.7772213/0.4836099/1.2\ 228164 params=5/64/6/6/0/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000GGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40z\ z0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CC000<13>000 } fbpop02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:02:05.51, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbpop.frm formulaname=fb_popcorn passes=1 corners=-0.8037682/0.8037682/-0.6028261/0.6028261 params=0.5/64/2/2/0/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z\ 88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG0000<13>000 } fbpop03 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:01:59.14, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbpop.frm formulaname=fb_popcorn passes=1 corners=1.9886229/2.1642437/1.4617605/2.6911062/1.4617605/2.1\ 642438 params=5/64/4/4/0/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000GGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40z\ z0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CC000<13>000 } fbpop04 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:02:05.07, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbpop.frm formulaname=fb_popcorn passes=1 center-mag=-1.93385/-1.93385/5.449062/1/44.999 params=5/64/4.5/4.5/0/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } fbpop05 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:02:05.72, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbpop.frm formulaname=fb_popcorn passes=1 corners=2.20894446/2.23072779/2.1435945/2.29607786/2.14359445\ /2.23072785 params=4.5/64/5/5/0/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000nc0<14>aG0000<8>0000hJ<18>0C4000<8>0000hh<18>0CC000\ <9>000AAk<17>00O000<8>000YGk<18>I0K000<8>000m0V<18>O08000<9>0\ 00k55<17>O00000<8>000rM0<18>c40000<9>000qh0pg0oe0000<13>000 } fbpop06 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:05:19.51, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbpop.frm formulaname=fb_popcorn passes=1 corners=1.02825/1.17955/0.57396317/1.6330628/0.5743502/1.1791\ 63 params=1.5/64/0.9/0.9/0/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } Popcorn_wheel { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; t= 0:01:28.76, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbpop.frm formulaname=fb_popcorn passes=1 corners=-12.044/12.044/-9.032998/9.032998 params=0.5/64/4/4/0/0 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z\ 88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG0000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: RE Re: (fractint) In Memoriam 486 Date: 30 May 1998 13:37:09 -1000 On 29 May 98 at 15:59, Robert Hailman wrote: > NERDS! NERDS! YOU ARE ALL NERDS! STOP THE NERDINESS! > KILL THE NERDS! DIE NERDS! GO TO HELL! > Send flames to me ASAP. Cold where you live? Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond All hard work brings a profit, but mere talk leads only to poverty. - Proverbs 14:23 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-Systems Date: 30 May 1998 13:37:09 -1000 On 28 May 98 at 9:58, Kragen wrote: > On Wed, 27 May 1998, Shauna Jones wrote: > > On 27 May 98 at 20:56, Christian Strik wrote: > > > I suggest DXF, which is also widely supported and can > > > do a lot more than this WMF. > > > > Except that DXF support for fonts was pathetic, last time > > I looked. > > Let's put this in context: I want to export lsystem > fractals in a way that common applications can import > them. lsystem fractals can be drawn with 'move to (x, > y); line to (x1, y1);'. WMF can do this. I'm certain > DXF can, too. Every application I use can import the EPS version of PostScript just fine. FYI, I think I still have around some sample PS files which are Postscript programs (unlike WMF and DWF, Postscript is a full-blown language) which generate lsystem style designs - the one I'm thinking of generates a fern leaf. Hmmm, now I suppose I'll have to dust off my Postscript programming skills and see about porting Fractint to Postscript ... > (Perhaps this has expanded into a general discussion > of the relative merits of different vector graphics > file formats. If that is the case, may I humbly > suggest that it is slightly off-topic?) > > > Any program that can produce a > > DXF file can just as easily produce a much more useful > > and better PS file! ;-) > > Is it also the case that any program that can read a > DXF file can just as easily read a PS file? I think > not. PostScript is pretty hard to read -- you have to > implement a lot of non-graphics stuff. All I can tell is that far more programs I've used read EPS than they read DXF. And the conversion generally gives better results. But my experience with DXF is so old ... This is indeed way off topic, unless someone feels like porting Fractint to AutoCAD's AutoLISP? Would that make doing 3D fractals easier??? Or maybe whatever they use in display lists??? Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond C:\CLINTON\TRUTH.COM not found. Abort, Retry, Impeach Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) popcorn_balls Date: 30 May 1998 16:49:47 -0700 Paul Carlson wrote: > Here's another rendering method applied to the popcorn Julia > formula (there are no balls in the images - I used a 3D balls > rendering, but it comes out differently). > Hi, Thanks for doing pc_popcorn_jul and popcorn_balls. I especially liked popballs2. It's funny because the popcorn formula tends to break up and soften the edges, and the edges in the 3D-stalks and other methods are very discrete. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: Re: (fractint) shell to dos Date: 30 May 1998 19:45:09 -0400 At 02:52 PM 30/05/98 EDT, Steve wrote: > "Pre-assumed" knowledge seems a given in any field as people get so far >past the basics that ...well...." everyone must know this. ".... Your dismay is understandable but inevitable- think of it as a rite of passage. It is easy to find fault with programmers and to think that their work should be less obtuse but consider- if someone asks you for directions to your home, should you be expected to teach them how to drive their automobile first? At any rate, shell to dos is useful in the dos world because it is not easy to switch back and forth between different programs. Usually, you have to quit the first program, run the second, quit it and then return to the first. Then you have to get back to the place you were doing whatever you were doing! If your program supports shell to dos, it allows you to temporarily exit the program without actually quitting it. You can then run another program and, when you exit the second, can easily return to the first w/o having to reload it. In the case of Fractint, this would be useful to let you use an editor to work on a formula file w/o having to shut down Fractint. Lest you think my first paragraph a personal criticism, let me say that as an old hand I am quite familiar with computer arcania. Still, I really prefer to work in Windows because things are usually so much easier when dealing with multiple programs :) Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) 3 Pars Date: 30 May 1998 21:28:17 -0400 Still shuffling through this unorganized mass or material; here are another 3 pars as I have been tinkering around: =====================================================================> Milky_Way { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 30, 1998 t= 0:06:29.58 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; From Popcorn1, (c) Paul Carlson 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=popcorn_jul passes=t corners=-1.522434/-1.222434/-0.10076597/0.12423403 params=0.05/4 float=y colors=000gPR<6>pmrrqvrnv<14>m0m3Km<14>rqv000<62>0004H`<13>msi<15>4rt<15\ >TgoUgoWhp<13>vvw<14>WWiUUhVVh<14>pvl<15>0U0<15>rrw<15>cRTZ00<5>eLN } This next one came from "Rose"; I forgot who posted it although I am sure I have still have it around here somewhere: Marigold { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 29, 1998 t=0:00:33.55 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 reset=1960 type=halley passes=t center-mag=-4.88498e-015/0.11099/0.622417 params=5/0.2/0.025/-0.24 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=epsiloncross outside=real invert=1/0/0 periodicity=0 colors=000LLY00E<17>00EA00<2>L80OA0RD0UG0YJ0<5>rZ0<11>400A00<2>000<15>0p\ p<12>0BB077044000222<14>hhh<15>000<27>007017037<13>4S4<11>2D21B11A118117\ 1<2>000313717A20<12>cAP<10>H43E30A2A<2>000<15>hh0<15>000<3>00D00H22I<7>J\ JW } This one I kind of liked: For_Paul_Carlson { ; (c) David Shanholtzer May 30, 1998 t= 0:10:32.58 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; frm: (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 ; color map: Dav55 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1 center-mag=+0.38166514853607390/+1.15634009474167300/765.9314/1/152.5 params=-0.392126738/0.227791005/0.025/0.25/3/30 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000G0Km8w<28>G0K00z<28>00C00z<28>00Cm8w<28>G0Km8w<28>G0K000<13>00\ 000z<28>00C00z<28>00Cm0w<27>I0M } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (fractint)1 par (a different Marigold) Date: 30 May 1998 22:05:25 EDT I really liked davides Marigold, and thought to post a different type of Marigold I made a while back. Enjoy!~ Jim Marigold { ; 34secs 75mhz 800x600 ; 3/13/98 image(c) JamesWeaver reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=andy_1.frm formulaname=andy23 function=tan/sinh passes=t center-mag=-3.1e-006/4.8e-007/0.3503361/1/90 params=1/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=10000 inside=epsiloncross outside=real colors=000V50<4>fT0iY0lb0og0ne3<15>800<10>jED<30>833622522311211000<31>0\ 00001001012013<39>4OW5PX5PX6QX<2>8RX9SYATYBUZDV_<39>zzzendfod023<14>1Uf<\ 2>1P_1NX1LU1JR1HP<7>123000100<20>S00 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) PAR more DiGiorgi frm pars Date: 30 May 1998 23:53:28 -0400 Phil DiGiorgi's addition to the gravijul variations collection is very useful; an excellent adaptation of a Carlson method. Here are nine more pars of the pd-hc_grav2 formula. Gedeon g-pdg-10 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi ; digiorgi1 map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=asin/abs/asin/atan passes=1 center-mag=1.33227e-015/0/0.5187922/1/90 params=2.875/0/0.876/0/0.7/0.7 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=R38202<15>_2a<3>N8mJApI9kG7e<16>000<2>NNNA04VVV\ <2>ssswwwzzz<2>zzzqqq<2>iiigggfff<2>aaa```___ZZZZZZQQQ\ NMMKKJIHH<2>DCBBAAA98887<6>h2rwqUd2ltnT_2fpjSV2`lgQQ1V\ hcPL1Pe`OG1JaXMB0DYULF0IUQJJ0NQNIN0SNJHS1YJGFW1bFCE_1g\ B9Cc1l75Bh2r319321<14>321E54J65<2>T87W98YA9<6>jDClEDlED\ <4>zVF<3>rLFJApnGEJAnlFEJ9ljEDJ9jgDCJ8heCCJ8ebBBJ7c`AAJ\ 6aY89J6_V68J4TXQJJ3RbVNJ3Ph_QJ2NlcTJ1KpgW855<7>855955B55\ <19>e7Cg8DhAE<10>zVF<10>hAEg8Dd8C<10>000J5YR38J5V } g-pdg-11 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=asin/abs/asin/atan passes=1 center-mag=-0.328509/-1.37854/10.33945/1/90 params=2.875/0/0.876/0/0.7/0.7 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=253 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000UJ8<22>xbEzcEybE<30>ME6GRH<29>cqddrecqd<30>\ GRH`76<25>yRQzRQzSRzTSzUTzUT<2>zSRzSRyRQxQP<25>`767NZ\ <27>OiyPjzPjzQkzQkz<27>9PaME6<4>TI88P`8O_7NZ } g-pdg-12 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=asin/abs/asin/atan passes=1 center-mag=-0.531357/1.36168/4.026667 params=2.875/0/0.476/0/0.7/0.7 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000FRG<26>`naaob`na<30>DOEY43<28>yQPzRQzRQzRQ\ <30>Y434KW<29>MgxNhyNhx<27>6MZJB3<28>u_Bw`Bv_B<30>\ JB3DOEEPEEQF5MY5LX4KW } g-pdg-13 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi ; lkmtch02 map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=acos/abs/log/acos passes=1 center-mag=7.53819/-1.06581e-014/0.05990691\ /1/90 params=0/0.9/0.876/0/0.3/0.3 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=222YI2aK2aM6YK6YMAYOEaQEaOAeQAeSEiUEiSAiQ6eO6\ eM2iO2mQ2mS6qU6qS2uU2yW2yY6uW6uYAy_AyaEu_EqYEqWAmUA\ <2>m_MqaMq_IuaIycIyeMucMueQygQyiUugUqeUqcQmaQmcUiaU\ e_UeYQi_QiYMiWIeUIeWMaUMaSIYQIYSMYUQaWQaYUYWUYYYa_Y\ aaaY_aYaeYciaeiaceeeeegiiiiigeieaecaeaYicYmeYmgaqia\ qgYuiYykYymaukaumeyoeyqiuoiqmiqkemie<2>moqqqqqomuqm\ ysmyuqusquuuywuyyyuwyquyqsumqumsyiqyeoyemuiouimqikmei\ mekqaiqagmYemYgqYiuakuamy<2>QgyQeuUguUeqUcmQamQcqMaq\ M_mIYmI_qIauMcuMeyIcyEayE_uAYuA_y6Yy2Wy2Uu6Wu6Uq2Sq2\ Qm6SmAUmAWqEYq<2>ESeAQeASi6Qi2Oi2Me6Oe6Ma2Ka2IY6KYAM\ YAOaEQaEOYIQYMSYMUaISaIUeIWiMYiMWeQYeQ_iUaiU_eUYaQWa\ QUYUWYUUUQSUQQQUSQUQMUOIQMIQOMMMMMKIIIIIKMIMQM\ OQMQUIOUEMUEKQAIQAKU6IU2GU2EQ6GQ6EM2CM2AI6CIAEIAG\ MEIM<2>ECAAAAACE6AE28E26A642A62A86EA6E82IA2MC2ME6IC\ 6IEAIGEMIEMGAQIAQKEUMEUKAUI6QG6QE2UG268A666246 } g-pdg-14 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/asin/log/asin passes=1 center-mag=-13.5841/37.5677/0.1944856 params=1/1/0.976/0/0.33333/0.33333 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000tY9<61>H91_m`<61>9K9xPO<61>T00Lfw<59>\ 2HT1GT1GS0FR3JV2IU } g-pdg-15 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/asin/log/asin passes=1 center-mag=0/2.22045e-016/0.7473842/1/90 params=1/4/0.33/0.1/0.33333/0.33333 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000hQ1<61>510hQ1<61>510lHG<41>S10R00R00Q00\ Q00<15>H009Zo<28>0N`0M`0M_0L_0LZ0KZ<28>07J0BN0AM } g-pdg-16 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/asin/log/asin passes=1 center-mag=1.11022e-015/-0.000753809/\ 0.5305957/1/90 params=1/7.35/0.34/0.1/0.33333/0.33333 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000pH8<2>vL8wM8yN8zP8zQ8zS8zU8zV8<4>zb8zc8zb8\ <2>zY8zW8zV8zU8<2>zP8yN8wM8<2>rI8pH8mG8kF8<4>ZB8WA8T\ 98Q98N88K88G88E88B88888<6>B8BB9BB9CC9DCADDAE<11>HHKH\ ILHJLHKMHLM<3>IOPIPPIOP<8>GHKGGJGFJGFIFEHFDH<3>EBFDA\ EDAECAD<4>A8AA8A989989888888888B88E88G88<5>Z88a88c88\ f88<5>t88v88w88y88<19>z88z88y88<3>r88p88m88k88<6>T88\ 889<3>88E89F89G9AI9AJ<7>9HTAIUAKV<4>AQaARbAScAUdAVfA\ XgAYhA_iA`j<8>AO_ANZAMYALXAKV<5>9DO9CN9CL<4>89F88E88\ D88B<3>888B88E88G88<2>Q98T98WA8ZB8<2>fD8iE8kF8mG8Q88\ N88K88 } g-pdg-17 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/abs/log/abs passes=1 center-mag=-1.13687e-013/-8.17124e-014/\ 0.00502182/1/135 params=1/4/0.33/0.1/0.33333/0.33333 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000hQ1<61>510hQ1<61>510lHG<41>S10R00R00Q00Q00\ <15>H009Zo<28>0N`0M`0M_0L_0LZ0KZ<28>07J0BN0AM } g-pdg-18 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 30, 1998 ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/asin/log/asin passes=1 center-mag=-8.88178e-016/-1.33227e-015/\ 0.4457493/1/90 params=2/5/0.13/0.1/0.33333/0.33333 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=summ logmode=fly colors=000qYA<61>E99qYA<61>E99uPP<41>`99_89_89Z89Z\ 89<15>Q89Ifx<28>9Vi9Ui9Uh9Th9Tg9Sg<28>9FS9JW9IV } frm:pd-HC_Grav2 {; formula by P. DiGiorgi, May, 1998 ; P. Carlson's Hi_Cycle method (modified) ; applied to Mark Christenson's Gravijul formula z = w = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 pa = real(p3), pb = imag(p3) w = pixel c = p2 i = (0,1) k = 1.2 - pb : u = fn1(w) w = fn3(p1/fn2(u*u)) wr = real(w) w = w - wr + abs(wr) - c angle = atan(imag(w)/wr) ka = k * angle / pb rw = k * cos(angle) + pb * cos(ka) iw = k * sin(angle) + pb * sin(ka) ww = rw + i * iw ww = fn4(1 - ww)/ww dist = abs(|w|-|ww|) IF (dist < pa && iter > 1) bailout = 1 index = 63 * dist / pa z = index + range_num * 63 + 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == 4) range_num = 0 ENDIF z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 100 } -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 23, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) updated web site Date: 30 May 1998 23:28:05 -0500 (CDT) Gedeon, >I added a new page to my web site featuring images based on Paul >Carlson's Zf_Ang formula. Your pages look *very* nice. One problem on this page - when I clicked on the left thumbnail in the fifth row (my favorite), I got the image matching the thumbnail in the sixth row. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) updated web site Date: 31 May 1998 00:50:18 -0400 Paul, Thanks for your comments and the bug report. I fixed it and some others on that page too. I have no idea how they could have gotten mixed up. Gedeon -- ************************************************ http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/4094/ Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: May 29, 1998 ************************************************ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) PARS popped Date: 30 May 1998 23:05:52 -0700 With apologies to all concerned- frm:gravipop_2u { ;5-29-98 kathy roth ;unholy matrimony of frm by Phil DiGiorgi, ;Mark Christenson & Bradley Beacham x=real(pixel), y=imag(pixel),k=real(p3), h=imag(p3): newx = x-h*sin((y) + tan(3*y)) newy = y-h*sin((x) + tan(3*x)) x=newx, y=newy z=x + flip(y) x = real(z), y = imag(z) w = fn1(x) + k*y, v = fn1(y) + k*x u = fn2(w + flip(v)) z = fn4(p1/fn3(u*u)) + p2 |z| < 0 } frm:UcPop { ;5-29-98 kathy roth ;variant of Morgan Owens Uc03 x=real(pixel), y=imag(pixel), h=imag(p2) t=p1, bailout = real(p2): newx = x-h*sin((y) + tan(3*y)) newy = y-h*sin((x) + tan(3*x)) x=newx, y=newy z=x+flip(y) x=real(z),y=imag(z) ax=4*x-2,ay=4*y-2 Tx=fn1(ax*(ax*ax-2)) Ty=fn1(ay*(ay*ay-2)) x=x-t*Ty,y=y+t*Tx z=x+flip(y) |z|<=bailout } frm:Uc03{;by Morgan Owens ; = 2z(2z-1)U02-U01 ;Prerelease 16/04/1998 t=p1,bailout=4,z=pixel: x=real(z),y=imag(z) ax=4*x-2,ay=4*y-2 Tx=fn1(ax*(ax*ax-2)) Ty=fn1(ay*(ay*ay-2)) x=x-t*Ty,y=y+t*Tx z=x+flip(y) |z|<=bailout} 1pop2u { ; cycle it ; 5-30-98 kathy roth reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravip~1.frm formulaname=gravipop_2u function=cosxx/recip/sinh/cosh center-mag=-3.85981/-2.38312/0.2019213 params=1/0/0/0/0/0.05 decomp=256 colors=nru55B<8>SUYUX`X_c_bfbei<2>lo\ s<13>SNCQL9PK8QK6<14>xn_<13>TN9RL7PJ\ 7PK8<13>loqkoq<14>000200<2>01101102103\ 1<2>053063063073083<3>0B50B50C61D7\ <2>4GC4HD5IE6JF7KH<5>AQNBRPAQO<5>7LH6KG5\ JE4ID4HB<26>14413313312212211111\ 1000<28>07X07Y08_09a<2>2Be3Cg5Dh<8>GMu\ HNwIOxKPzKPyJOx<8>FFjEEiDDgCCfBBe<\ 10>55G44D44D33A33A } 2pop2u { ; 5-30-98 kathy roth reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=gravipop_2u function=cosxx/recip/sinh/cosh center-mag=-0.0275925/-0.0244743/0.9782251 params=1/0/0/0/0/0.05 invert=1/0/0 decomp=256 colors=nru55B<8>SUYUX`X_c_bfbei<2>lo\ s<13>SNCQL9PK8QK6<14>xn_<13>TN9RL7PJ\ 7PK8<13>loqkoq<14>000200<2>01101102103\ 1<2>053063063073083<3>0B50B50C61D7\ <2>4GC4HD5IE6JF7KH<5>AQNBRPAQO<5>7L\ H6KG5JE4ID4HB<26>14413313312212211111\ 1000<28>07X07Y08_09a<2>2Be3Cg5Dh<8>G\ MuHNwIOxKPzKPyJOx<8>FFjEEiDDgCCfBBe<\ 10>55G44D44D33A33A } original_found_object { ; 5-30-98 kathy roth ; formula by Morgan Owens ;palette by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=uc03.frm formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=0.10934/0.423359/0.3221982 params=0.1/0.02 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=zzzlnemrr<5>AUU<22>000zzz<6>Ud\ W<18>698586465343222000zzz<6>fbHcZA\ bYA<21>000zzz<7>mU5<22>000zzz<5>fSTb\ MNaMN<22>000zzz<6>WQ_<18>86865654533\ 3222000zzz<7>PPZ<22>000zzz<6>Hii<13>6\ IK5GI4EG4DE3BC39A<4>000 } popped_found_object { ; 5-30-98 kathy roth ; formula by Morgan Owens ;palette by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=uc03.frm formulaname=UcPop function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.100778/0.139145/0.3739837 params=0.1/0.02/4/0.05 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=zzzccjmrr<5>AUU<22>000zz\ z<6>UdW<18>698586465343222000zzz<6>fbHcZA\ bYA<21>000zzz<7>mU5<22>000zzz<5>fSTb\ MNaMN<22>000zzz<6>WQ_<18>86865654533\ 3222000zzz<7>PPZ<22>000zzz<6>Hi\ i<13>6IK5GI4EG4DE3BC39A<4>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (fractint) shell to dos(2) Date: 31 May 1998 02:06:50 EDT Ian, Hello. Yes...There was no command.com in my fractint directory so I copied one from elswhere in the machine and pasted it to fractint but the problem still persists. My original motivation for asking was to do a memory check to complete a report to Robin Bussell in persuit of a fractint bug. But now that you've explained the purpose of shell to dos and the operation of command.com I'd like to get it working because it would save me backing all the way out to dos to access the text editor. Anyway....the error messages are the same. 1.The first I get when attempting to access shell to dos from the screen with an image present >>" Note: Your graphics image is still squirreled away in your video adapter's memory. Switching video modes will clobber part of that image. Sorry-its the best we couls do." 2. The second is after restartint fractint and before selecting a video mode... for an instant it seems there is a dos screen. " Shelling to dos-type exit to return." From dos if I type command.com it is found and recognized { appearently } as I see "Microsoft(R) Windows 95 (c) MS corp. 1981-1995" and have to type exit twice to get windows to restart. Appearently once to exit command.com and once to exit dos. Hummmm.....seems we're on the right track and I'm much more aware of what I'm looking for at this point after Ians articulate explination....but it's still not working. Any and all comments or suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (fractint) updated web site Date: 31 May 1998 02:19:39 EDT Gedeon Very nicely done page! The font for the header is great and so is the color. I'd love to know what its called. The layout of everything is very relaxing and easy to access. I'm going back now to browse around and enjoy this contribution to the web. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (fractint) shell to dos Date: 31 May 1998 02:32:01 EDT In a message dated 98-05-30 19:46:25 EDT, you write: << should you be expected to teach them how to drive their automobile first? >> Lol Jack , I realize what you mean and you are correct. I don't take it personally. Thanks for the return on this subject. After installing a copy of command.com to fractints directory I'm still getting no results other than the creative error messages. Command.com is recognized in dos { outside of fractint } but while still in the fractint directory . I'll just watch and see what developes here in the mail. Thanks, Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) updated web site Date: 31 May 1998 03:57:39 -0500 SKarl52884@aol.com wrote: > > The font for the header is great and so is the color. > I'd love to know what its called. > It looks like some form of "American Uncial", which is a modern version of a medieval script. It is often associated erroneously with the Gaelic/Celtic fonts. Though it could be a form of the true celtic typeface -- Gaelilge, but the "T" doesn't look right for it. You might try the following URLs: http://celt.net/og/ethfonts.htm http://www.scot.demon.co.uk/scotfaq/2_2.html http://ragnarokpress.com/scriptorium/ P.N.L. Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) shell to dos Date: 31 May 1998 04:07:50 -0500 SKarl52884@aol.com wrote: > > After installing a copy of command.com to fractints directory > I'm still getting no results other than the creative error messages. > Command.com is recognized in dos { outside of fractint } but while > still in the fractint directory . > Try putting the COMMAND.COM into a directory that is specified in your operating system's PATH statement, example: C:\ C:\WINDOWS P.N.L. Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint)1 par (a different Marigold) Date: 31 May 1998 05:23:09 -0400 At 10:05 PM 5/30/1998 EDT, you wrote: > >I really liked davides Marigold, and thought to post a different type of >Marigold I made a while back. Enjoy!~ >Jim I think an apology is in order here: Jim was the one who posted "Rose" in which I found my Marigold, but being rushed (or lazy - take your pick) I ran out of time in which to to take the extra second to re-find the par and his name. Accordingly - my apologies to Jim for not attributing his name to "Rose" without which I would not have come up with my version. davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Iain.Stirling" Subject: Re: (fractint) shell to dos(2) Date: 31 May 1998 15:27:55 +0100 () I've been thinking a little on this subject overnight. It may be that the version of COMMAND.COM you have is not the same as the one FRACTINT expects, and maybe FRACTINT is issuing some parameters to the COMMAND.COM that it can't understand... I can't investigate this much at the moment, as I am away from home using somebody else's machine (and they don't have FRACTINT , and it would be a little rude to download it on their phone-bill ) , but I'll be home by Monday, and I'll have a go at re-creating the problem you are having. For now, I hope you are enjoying your excursion to the 'good old days' , when problems like this happened all the time! Iain G. Stirling Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (fractint) Popcorn balls formula Date: 31 May 1998 11:05:03 EDT Paul, Thanks (again) for all the great formulas. The popcorn pars are all spectacular! Bill http://members.aol.com/billatny/fractopi.htm Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: Re: (fractint) shell to dos Date: 31 May 1998 11:09:44 -0400 At 02:32 AM 31/05/98 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-05-30 19:46:25 EDT, you write: > After installing a copy of command.com to fractints directory I'm still >getting no results other than the creative error messages. > Command.com is recognized in dos { outside of fractint } but while still >in the fractint directory . I wanted to see the full text of the Fractint error message you got when trying to shell to dos. Using a hex editor I found the message: "Note: Your graphics image is still squirreled away in your video adapter's memory. Switching video modes will clobber part of that image. Sorry- it's the best we could do." This implies that the problem is not that Fractint cannot shell to dos. If this is correct, playing with the location of command.com will not help. The problem seems to be either your video card, Fractint just can't handle that card, or something related to memory management. If you check the documentation for your video card, it may be that it has different settings or emulations available. If so, changing one or more of these might make it more compatible with Fractint. If changes are available, make sure that you record the card's settings *before* you make any changes. After all, if your changes don't work you want to get back to your starting point easily. Also be aware that your Windows video settings will probably also be affected. If you are not completely comfortable with playing with the video settings, you probably should just leave well enough alone. BTW, I'm only speculating about this and could very well be wrong. Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: (fractint) Steve: shell to dos alternative Date: 31 May 1998 11:09:47 -0400 Steve, I just had a "flash-back". If you only want to shell to dos from Fractint so you can use an editor, there is another way. As I said, you can't switch between programs easily in DOS. Back when dos was king, people wrote programs that were TSR's (Terminate and stay ready). These were little programs that would remain in memory when you exited them. If you wanted to get back to them, you didn't have to reload them but just hit a predefined key combination and they would pop right back up. When you did this, they would temporarily take over the screen from whatever program you were running. Then when you exited them, you would be returned to your original underlying program. They had a few limitations. Usually they would not work if the screen was in a graphic mode. In the case of fractint, you would have to get to a text screen (such as the help screen) before invoking the tsr program. They would, of necessity, take up some valuable system memory while in use. Sometimes the only way to remove them from memory was to re-start your computer. It's been a long time since I used TSRs so I can't make any specific recommendations. But you should be able to find a repository of old MS-DOS shareware/freeware somewhere on the web. Look for tsr editors (tsrs were also often called pop-ups) and I'm sure you'll find something. Just remember to run the tsr editor *before* you run Fractint. Hope this helps. Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colleen Johnson Subject: Re: (fractint) Resource List Date: 31 May 1998 10:22:31 PDT Thanks for the list, Janet!!! Colleen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colleen Johnson Subject: Re: RE: (fractint)newbe needs video mode Date: 31 May 1998 10:48:06 PDT Hi RJ! Just wanted to let you (and anyone else who tried to help me with my vide= o mode problem) that the problem is fixed. There was a file that had not= been installed from the floppy that came with my video card. When that = was installed, I got the full 1024x768 that my card was supposed to be = able to do. I'm stoked!! Take care. Colleen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) shell to dos Date: 31 May 1998 13:24:50 -0600 Let me make a comment about Fractint's shell-to-dos feature. Fractint does not release any memory before shelloing to DOS. Therefore when you attempt to shell to DOS, there is no guarantee that there is enough free memory to successfully load command.com. Some programs do better than fractint when shelling to DOS. These programs release memory the program is using before going to DOS. We could improve this situation by radically changing Fractint's memory architecture, which would entail a tremendous amount of work for a limited benefit. On my Win95 system, the mem command reports Courier New(outside fractint) Total memory free under 1 MB 543K (after shell to DOS from inside fractint) Total memory free under 1 MB 80KArial So you see that on my system there is only 80K of free conventional memory when you shell to DOS. On someone else's system with some TSR programs, network drivers etc., it is easy to imagine having 80K less memory. On such a system, Shell-to-DOS wouldn't work at all. Even on my system, 80K isn't enough to do much. Most people who use shell-to-DOS probably use it to delete and rename files, etc. From time to time people ask us to add such a capability to fractint itself. We have resisted burdening an already large program like Fractint with file management functions, but perhaps we should at least allow file deletion or renaming from some of the file list screens. However, if you are running Win95, you can simply run another DOS shell (click on the MS-DOS icon) while running Fractint, and use alt-tab to switch between windows. I hope this casts a little light on things. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (fractint) shell to dos(end) Date: 31 May 1998 15:13:57 EDT In a message dated 98-05-31 14:28:33 EDT, you write: << We have resisted burdening an already large program like Fractint with file management functions, Tim>> Yes, The above is understandable. My machine shows 524K free before fractint, slightly under your 543K and as I haven't been able to check mem with fractint open....and windows says command.com is 91K.... well...no problem. Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (fractint) File management within fractint Date: 31 May 1998 15:15:19 EDT In a message dated 98-05-31 14:28:33 EDT, you write: > Most people who use shell-to-DOS probably use it to > delete and rename files, etc. From time to time people ask us to add such a > capability to fractint itself. We have resisted burdening an already large > program like Fractint with file management functions, but perhaps we should > at > least allow file deletion or renaming from some of the file list screens. Hopefully /robin and Jonathan will see this, but if not, please apprise them. I think that one of the more effective ways to work filename manipulation would be to simply give the option to name the file at save. {an empty field reverting to the 'fractxxx.gif} I think that just that item alone would halt all issues with filenames. Evertyhing else is, as you pointed out, bloatware. Chris Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: RE: (fractint) shell to dos(end) Date: 31 May 1998 22:07:23 -0400 [previous message snipped] I have a problem with the DOS shell under straight DOS (Win95 MSDOS = mode). When I press 'd' I just see a black screen flash up then = disappear. However, under Win95, it does work. Does fractint read the = comspec environment variable? I think I tried using that, but had no = success... :( Pete Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Camp" Subject: (fractint) Strange things afoot.... Date: 31 May 1998 20:31:24 -0700 OK, I am a math major in college but I am still going to need help with this one. I am currently wrting a series of articles for my webpage on the mandelbrot set. I wanted to include a sample formula file so my readers could see step by step how the fractal was created. To make it a little easier I thought I would break the pixel up into its real and imag parts so the reader could follow each through the process. Unforuantly the formula now produces something that doesn't resembel the mandelbrot set at all. Any ideas on why this formula gives this result? frm:jcamp03 { u = x = real(pixel) v = y = imag(pixel) : x = x^2 + flip(y^2) + u y = 2*u*y + v z = x + y |z| <= 4 } even though it didn't work the way i wanted it to, i still found to be kinda cool looking. jcamp06 { ; jon camp, 1998 ; chaotic n-space network reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=email.frm formulaname=jcamp03 passes=1 center-mag=-0.06944872781437442/-0.92826834812011820/1341.986 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=bof60 outside=summ colors=000t00<5>j00h00e00c00<4>R00O00L00I00F00C00001<3>00601701812A12B<7\ >19L2AM2CN<4>2IU2JV2KW2MX2NZ2P_2Q`2Sa2Tb<8>2GS2FR2EQ2DP2CN<5>15G14F14D<4\ >017006005003<3>000300600800<2>I10L10O20R30<2>Z50a60c70e80<2>lC0nD0oE0qF\ 0<3>wM0xN0xO0yQ0<3>zW0zV0zT0zS0yQ0xO0xN0<2>tI0sH0qF0oE0<2>jA0h90e80c70<4\ >R30O20L10I10F00C00800600300000<6>303313314415425526<11>99C9AD9BD9CE9DE<\ 3>AGHAHHAGH<8>89C88B87B87A769759<3>637526526425<4>2022021011010000000003\ 00600800<5>R00U00W00Z00<5>l00n00o00q00<3>w00x00x00y00<5>z00z00y00x00x00w\ 00u00 } Thanks, jon camp http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/fractals_gate.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Strange things afoot.... Date: 01 Jun 1998 00:46:19 -0500 (CDT) Hi Jon, >Unforuantly the formula now produces something that doesn't resembel the >mandelbrot set at all. Any ideas on why this formula gives this result? Your formula: >frm:jcamp03 { > u = x = real(pixel) > v = y = imag(pixel) > : > x = x^2 + flip(y^2) + u > y = 2*u*y + v > z = x + y > |z| <= 4 >} should be changed to: frm:jcamp03 { u = real(pixel) v = imag(pixel) z = 0 : x = real(z) y = imag(z) old_x = x x = x^2 - y^2 + u y = 2 * old_x * y + v z = x + flip(y) |z| <= 4 } This will give you the Mandelbrot set. You won't get much with the par that gave the nice image with your original formula, however. Anyhow, you may have discovered a nice new formula (a lot of them are discovered this way). Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint"