From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #49 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Tuesday, December 30 1997 Volume 01 : Number 049 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:24:14 -0500 (EST) From: Ian Kaplan Subject: Re: (fractint) FPGAs Rich wrote: [lots of sad things convincing me that while the technique might be elegant and powerful, it'd also be expensive and hard.] sigh... that appears to be my lesson for the day, learned by posting questions about e.e. and quantum mechanics where I know something, yet not enough... but then, the universe is more fun when these things aren't easy! The cost barrier may be surmountable, because the Altera page I mentioned before makes it sound like they're giving them away to encourage research. The difficulty barrier... well, having breadboarded out simple arithmetic, I do realize that there's a lot of work involved (and a few finger-burns on broken resistors. Yow!) But while it may be beyond my either the time or the talent I have to devote to it, I don't think it's beyond what our remarkable listserve can come up with... So, anyone want to try to write a proposal with me? - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:37:11 -0800 From: Peter Jakubowicz Subject: (fractint) 99 Klein Bottles of Beer on the Wall OK, here comes the dumb question of the day. Has anyone ever tried to use Fractint to create 3-D images of Klein bottles or other objects that do not exist in 3-space? Or does anyone know how one might go about it. I am thinking of certain images created by Thomas Banchoff at Brown University (just read a book by him called Beyond the Third Dimension). Or, on the other hand, does anyone know of a good freeware program to create oddball geometric figures? The only one I've been told of is called The Geometer's Sketchpad, and it costs a bloody fortune. Thanks, Peter - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 10:42:26 +1100 From: "B Michie" Subject: (fractint) Local users Any Fractint users out there who live Sydney, Australia or thereabouts. I don't mind a bit of travel to meet someone with similar interests, or even to talk on a local phone call Beth Plant real trees. Don't give me rubbish like, "I'd like a tall tree, but it mustn't grow above the gutters! Oh- and the colour of the flowers mustn't clash with the brickwork -- Spare me !@#$%^&***! - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 07:57:15 +1100 From: "B Michie" Subject: (fractint) Australian users Are there any Fractint users out there from Australia, around Sydney or Campbelltown or thereabouts? I don't mind a bit of travel to meet people with an interest in fractals Beth - ---------- > From: Clamcake > To: fractint@xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Par file test > Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 5:17 AM > > Hi, > Just testing to see if I can properly send a par file; wouldn't mind if > someone would check it and tell me if I am doing something wrong. It's a > self-portrait; anyone know how to do a Marvin Martian? Peter > > Peter { > reset=1960 type=magnet2m > center-mag=+1.10562209776175500/-0.71953689897320260/703.3343/1/-62.499 > params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1496 bailout=512 > colors=000t0ev0ex0e000x0ev0ezzz000zzzzm0zOOxSSzWWz__zcczhhzmmzsszzz000zz\ > zV0z<10>z0zzzz000zzzzzC<5>zzU<5>zzC000zzz000<190>000Z0e<2>e0ed0e<6>r0e > } > > > - > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 07:57:15 +1100 From: "B Michie" Subject: (fractint) Australian users Are there any Fractint users out there from Australia, around Sydney or Campbelltown or thereabouts? I don't mind a bit of travel to meet people with an interest in fractals Beth - ---------- > From: Clamcake > To: fractint@xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Par file test > Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 5:17 AM > > Hi, > Just testing to see if I can properly send a par file; wouldn't mind if > someone would check it and tell me if I am doing something wrong. It's a > self-portrait; anyone know how to do a Marvin Martian? Peter > > Peter { > reset=1960 type=magnet2m > center-mag=+1.10562209776175500/-0.71953689897320260/703.3343/1/-62.499 > params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1496 bailout=512 > colors=000t0ev0ex0e000x0ev0ezzz000zzzzm0zOOxSSzWWz__zcczhhzmmzsszzz000zz\ > zV0z<10>z0zzzz000zzzzzC<5>zzU<5>zzC000zzz000<190>000Z0e<2>e0ed0e<6>r0e > } > > > - > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:58:19 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) Image Compression/Decompression Oh...no wiggle....squiggle.....to drive me nuts along with music I don't want to hear???? It's amazing how quickly perfectly good brains turn to mush with a new web toy. I was recently at a professionally designed site where the product was alloted 1/4 of the page..the rest was devoted to frames....gak....tiff was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too big. About as bad as bmp. Fractint's choice of the gif format was excellent given the probs of compression versus bandwidth. At 01:50 PM 12/29/97 -0700, you wrote: > >In article <3.0.32.19971229125134.00699fb4@cci-internet.com> , > Wizzle writes: >> [...] Somehow the gif >> license seems to be about the right balance between public domain and >> copyright. I do a considerable amount of graphics for the web...and jpg >> has its probs.....so I'm glad gif is available. > >The obvious replacement for GIF (and even TIFF in my opinion) is PNG. >PNG is lossless and achieves better compression than either GIF or >TIFF for either palette-based or truecolor image files. PNG does lack >the "animated GIF" feature, but since I pretty much detest that sort >of thing on the web myself I'm not sad to see it unsupported in PNG >:). However, for those of you who "must have" this "feature", there >is a working group attempting to define a "multi image" equivalent of >PNG. > >> The fractal compression >> from ISI was impressive....especially since it is non destructive...unlike >> jpg. > >I don't know where you got this idea. ISI's techniques are ALL lossy, >i.e. destructive, like JPEG. (There is also a variant of JPEG called >"lossless JPEG", but it isn't widely supported or implemented; PNG can >probably achieve smaller file sizes than lossless JPEG for most >source matter.) > >> ....I'm not >> sure we really need to be as concerned with bandwidth as formerly. > >Just as the "death of the net" has been predicted ever since it was >first made available to a wider audience than academia, I think it >will always be the case that more bandwidth will be needed. As more >bandwidth becomes available to each user, their appetite for bandwidth >is increased, resulting in a feedback that always demands more >bandwidth. This is why such statements as "I think the total >worldwide market for computers is about 4." (from memory, attributed >to Thomas J. Watson of IBM in the very early days of computers) and >"Noone will need more than 640K of memory" (Bill Gates in the early >days of MS-DOS) seem so utterly ridiculous now. > >> ISI may >> be suffering from bad timing along with restrictive licensing. > >My personal experience (and this involved talking with them on the >phone, ordering their development environment for the PC and engaging >in discussions about support on other platforms for their algorithms) >is that they are a greedy, arrogant lot. Talking with others in the >computer graphics field has affirmed my subjective opinion. Sometimes >people succeed in the marketplace despite their attitude, and >sometimes the marketplace punishes a firm for its attitude. I can't >say which is the case with ISI, but their way of dealing with business >opportunities definately made a negative impression upon me and >afterwards I found that I wasn't alone in this experience. >-- > ``Between stimulus and response is the will to choose.'' -- Steven Covey > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > 3D Paint: The Power to Create in 3D; Rich Thomson > email me for more info rthomson@ptc.com > >- >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:54:07 -0800 From: Peter Jakubowicz Subject: Re: (fractint) Australian users At 07:57 AM 12/29/97 +1100, you wrote: >Are there any Fractint users out there from Australia, around Sydney or >Campbelltown or thereabouts? >I don't mind a bit of travel to meet people with an interest in fractals >Beth [snip] >> Hi, >> Just testing to see if I can properly send a par file; wouldn't mind if >> someone would check it and tell me if I am doing something wrong. It's a >> self-portrait; anyone know how to do a Marvin Martian? Hey, now that's a rather odd answer to my question on doing a Marvin Martian fractal; must be some sort of cultural differences at work here. Par file to follow soon for the spam. BTW, DOES anyone know how to do a Marvin Martian fractal? - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 15:09:49 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) Paul's Phoenix Spirals After trying out everyones suggestions...here is the frm I ended up with and it still doesn't work...drat ******************************************** 3D_Phoenix_Spirals {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1997 prev_w = y = pixel c = p1 z = 0 bailout = 0 iter = 0 range_num = 0 num_ranges = real(p2) colors_in_range = imag(p2): w = prev_w * prev_w - 0.5 * prev_w + c b = w * w - 0.5 * y + c y = w w = b IF (w > 1) delta_i = imag(w) - imag(prev_w) delta_r = real(w) - real(prev_w) angle = abs(atan(delta_i / delta_r)) IF (delta_r < 0) angle = pi - angle ENDIF bailout = 1 range_index = 2 * colors_in_range * angle / pi z = range_index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 } ************************************************** What now??????? At 01:37 PM 12/29/97 -0700, you wrote: > From: Wizzle > Subject: Re: (fractint) Paul's Phoenix Spirals >> I tried your suggestions.....didn't work...drat. Could you send me your >> .frm file??? >---------------End of Original Message----------------- > >Check for this: > If every equal sign is followed by the characters 3D, do a global > replace of =3D with =. Then remove every =\n (equal sign followed > by a new line\carriage return). > >These are artifacts of some Mac based mailers. I see them in everything >Paul posts. I've gotten used to stripping them out. > > ----------------------------------------- >| Tim Riley | >| Institute for Telecommunication Science | >| National Telecommunications and | >| Information Administration | >| US Dept. of Commerce | >| Boulder, Colorado | >| E-mail:triley@its.bldrdoc.gov | >| Per favore spenga le Sue scarpe | >| davanti abbandonare il nave spaziale. | > ----------------------------------------- > > >- >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:01:46 EST From: Bill at NY Subject: (fractint) Multiple part files Hi folks. I've been trying to create large size, high rez fractals with fractint using the Makemig and Simplgif utilities. I know I've read on this newsletter before about problems with this. However, on my old 486DX33 it worked pretty well. Now on my new Pentium II 266 I have frequent problems. Things go wrong at the very first step, when I press B and create the par file and enter the number of X and Y pieces I want. I use Shift-2 to invoke the par and look at each piece separately. The last column of pieces is where things go wrong. The pieces get put out of order and even get rotated 90 degrees sometimes which is really wierd. Has anyone else noticed this? Any solutions? Bill - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:18:25 -0700 From: Rich Thomson Subject: Re: (fractint) FPGAs In article <199712292224.RAA11120@force.stwing.upenn.edu> , Ian Kaplan writes: > [lots of sad things convincing me that while the technique might be > elegant and powerful, it'd also be expensive and hard.] How hard and how expensive is a matter of debate :), but probably off-topic for this list. Email me if you wish to talk more about it. > The cost barrier may be surmountable, because the Altera page I mentioned > before makes it sound like they're giving them away to encourage > research. Silicon vendors always give away what they call "engineering samples". Using a few engineering samples one could put together a system for a modest price that would do something interesting. How interesting and at what price/performance are questions that are difficult to answer without a working implementation though. > either the time or the talent I have to devote to it, I don't think it's > beyond what our remarkable listserve can come up with... So, > anyone want to try to write a proposal with me? A proposal for what and to whom? - -- ``Between stimulus and response is the will to choose.'' -- Steven Covey =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 3D Paint: The Power to Create in 3D; Rich Thomson email me for more info rthomson@ptc.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:20:16 -0700 From: Rich Thomson Subject: Re: (fractint) 99 Klein Bottles of Beer on the Wall I don't think fractint can deil with Klein bottles or other hyperdimensional objects, but I don't claim to be an expert at the limits of fractint. You might try the Geometry Center at the University of Minnesota for a source of software that might help you out in your hyperdimensional pursuits though. - -- ``Between stimulus and response is the will to choose.'' -- Steven Covey =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 3D Paint: The Power to Create in 3D; Rich Thomson email me for more info rthomson@ptc.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:22:42 -0700 From: Rich Thomson Subject: Re: (fractint) Multiple part files I've used the 'b' command to render 3x3 tiles of a single image, render all the tiles, then make a "MIG" and then use simplgif to get out a single large image. It all worked OK on my P90. - -- ``Between stimulus and response is the will to choose.'' -- Steven Covey =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 3D Paint: The Power to Create in 3D; Rich Thomson email me for more info rthomson@ptc.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:34:25 -0500 From: "Jason Hine" Subject: Re: (fractint) Algorithm Reply Wizzle wrote: >I'm posting this for Paul Derbyshire who was having some probs with the snip, then > >>Your algorithm sometimes zooms away from the set into a blank solid area >>right? If you make a slight modification it won't: make it reject any >>pixels whose 8 neighbors are all either the same color or the two >>neighboring colors. >> I don't know if this was directed to me, but if it was, thanks... has someone had this problem? I haven't, but it's possible that it is a problem... Jason - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:50:40 -0500 From: "Jason Hine" Subject: Re: (fractint) FPGAs Ian wrote: > So, >anyone want to try to write a proposal with me? Sure, Ian, I'd be psyched! I'm serious! Jason (the 23yo fresh-out-of-college bachelor w/an electronic best friend... and liking it thus) Hine - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:53:39 -0500 From: "Jason Hine" Subject: Re: (fractint) Australian users Beth wrote: >Are there any Fractint users out there from Australia, around Sydney or >Campbelltown or thereabouts? >I don't mind a bit of travel to meet people with an interest in fractals >Beth And now fractals become an excuse to travel the world!... I suggest a Fractal Exploration Expedition for early in the year 2000... takers? - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:21:13 -0000 From: Peter Moreland Subject: (fractint) >>A gynaeclogical look to it<< Hello all... Excuse me just jumping straight in but the talk of gynaecological fractals reminded me of an image I did a few years ago. Slither { ; (c)1997 Peter Moreland ; peter@getitonbangagong.demon.co.uk ; No commercial use without permission reset=1730 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=wineglass corners=-2.371209/1.118991/2.12422/-2.125593/1.118991/-2.125593 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=zmag outside=real logmap=yes colors=000312<32>X6IY7JZ9L<10>mchofjofj<139>soptpqsno<19>_AMZ7KX7J<8>D38\ A26825513312000<27>201 } - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:23:40 +1000 From: Subject: Re: (fractint) Multiple part files Rupert Russell@BOROONDARA 30/12/97 14:23 BillatNY@aol.com on 30/12/97 09:01:46 Please respond to fractint@lists.xmission.com To: fractint@lists.xmission.com cc: (bcc: Rupert Russell/Boroondara) Subject: (fractint) Multiple part files Hi folks. I've been trying to create large size, high rez fractals with fractint using the Makemig and Simplgif utilities. I know I've read on this newsletter before about problems with this. However, on my old 486DX33 it worked pretty well. Now on my new Pentium II 266 I have frequent problems. Things go wrong at the very first step, when I press B and create the par file and enter the number of X and Y pieces I want. I use Shift-2 to invoke the par and look at each piece separately. The last column of pieces is where things go wrong. The pieces get put out of order and even get rotated 90 degrees sometimes which is really wierd. Has anyone else noticed this? I have not had the problem your having but I sometimes find that occasionaly the Simplgif program fails to work properly. It fails to compress the file properly. When I attempt to open the image in Paint Shop Pro I get a bad LZW compression message. Reducing the number of peices seems to help. Any solutions? I have only ever worked with "Square" images eg the same number of X & Y pieces. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:31:31 -0500 From: Jack Valero Subject: (fractint) Re:Zip Drives At 10:13 AM 29/12/97 -0500, Ian Kaplan wrote re buying zip drive: >> >Don't do it. The SparQ drive goes for $199 and holds 1 gig, and the new >version of the Jaz drive holds 2 gig for about $300... > Yep. Good advice for purely personal storage. However, if you have to move large files between various commercial parties, a zip disk may as well be considered the standard- everyone has one. Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/ - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:31:35 -0500 From: Jack Valero Subject: (fractint) Re: sexist fractals Okay Wizzle, >I do think Jay managed to find a "sexist" variation on my >image....<<<>>>> Nice ....um....phrallic choice of colors. I'm >gonna have to go find a fem counterpart....I didn't know phractals could be >so stimulating. Check out 2 images on our pages- Eve's Temptation and Fertilty. While hardly pornographic they are certainly... um... suggestive. Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/ - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:39:08 -0800 From: Peter Jakubowicz Subject: (fractint) Par and Formula Here's No_Name formula and J. Random par file. The formula's actually half-interesting, I think, kind of buggy -- maybe it's one that's already been done? No_Name{ z = c = pixel: z = p1 * cosh(z * z * z * z * z * z) + c |z| <= 4 } Random { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=no_name.frm formulaname=No_Name center-mag=+0.60104529830104190/+0.60104526220853630/249158.9/1/45 params=0.5/0.5 float=y maxiter=4096 colors=000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zz\ z000zzz000zzz<19>yzzyzzzzz<13>zzz000lnrjkqzzzdfm000Zaj<5>IN`FKZAEO57C000\ <6>zkk<6>z66zzzG00G40G8000z<10>zc0<4>zY2000zV3<5>zN5000zL6zJ7zI7zG8<11>n\ KI000FzFVVVjjjzzzgMO<12>VR_TR`TR`zzzURazzzVRazzzWRazzz000zzz000zz0zzz0z0\ LLLz00<5>zz0000555<2>EEE0z0KKK<3>___ccchhhmmmssszzzzz0<6>z0Gz00<3>zz0nx6\ buCP0ZFpP<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zVz<3>zVV<3>zzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>\ zhhzlh000 } - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:46:33 -0500 From: "Blake Hyde" Subject: (fractint) Raytracing Fractals Ok... I downloaded POVRay 3.0 for Windows, just to be able to project my plasma-landscapes onto globes (Fractint's globally-projecting capability is severely limited, as you know). Can someone give me some tips on this? Also, I was looking at some formulae, and was wondering, especially about Sylvie Gallet's, do you have some higher inspiration into math, or are you more like those of us [me] who just sit and punch in things like Z = cos(x)^r + n * z^2? --Blake Hyde, trying to affect a serious demeanor. :) - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:20:12 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: (fractint) Phoenix Formula No matter what I do I can't seem to get Paul's phoenix spiral formula to work. He sent me another copy via email which I MOST carefully pasted into notepad. Both version 19.6 and winfract 18.21 insist that there is a problem. In fractint I get error (5), undefined function and in winfract I get error(4)undefined operator and error (5) undefined function. I've re-done the file several times using (alternately) the information posted here as well as the information Paul sent me by email. Screwy. Could someone who got the formula to work using Notepad please send me the file as an attachement to an email? My email is wizzle@cci-internet.com Thanks....I've spent hours on this.....<> Angela - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:19:58 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) >>A gynaeclogical look to it<< Peter.... Very funny!!! and most .....er....biological. Angela At 12:21 AM 12/30/97 -0000, you wrote: >Hello all... > >Excuse me just jumping straight in but the talk of gynaecological fractals >reminded me of an image I did a few years ago. > > >Slither { ; (c)1997 Peter Moreland > ; peter@getitonbangagong.demon.co.uk > ; No commercial use without permission > reset=1730 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm > formulaname=wineglass > corners=-2.371209/1.118991/2.12422/-2.125593/1.118991/-2.125593 > float=y maxiter=1000 inside=zmag outside=real logmap=yes > colors=000312<32>X6IY7JZ9L<10>mchofjofj<139>soptpqsno<19>_AMZ7KX7J<8>D38\ > A26825513312000<27>201 > } > > >- >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:29:45 -0500 (EST) From: aq936@freenet.carleton.ca (Michael Traynor) Subject: Re: (fractint) Phoenix Formula >Could someone who got the formula to work using Notepad please send me the >file as an attachement to an email? My email is Angela, Instead of spending time on Notepad, get yourself a copy of PFE! It will take less time than futzing about with Notepad. - -- Mike Traynor People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like. Abraham Lincoln - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:48:14 -0800 From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) Phoenix Formula about PFE: http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe get it here (Win95, NT) http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/pfe0701i.zip > > Instead of spending time on Notepad, get yourself a copy of PFE! > > It will take less time than futzing about with Notepad. Agreed, Jay - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 02:43:09 EST From: JulianPA Subject: (fractint) simplenet Wizzle writes: >If anyone wants to set up a fractal homepage.....I highly recommend > >www.simplenet.com > >For a piddly $10 per month you get unlimited...that's right...space for a >homepage.... Angela, what's your URL at simplenet? I'd like both to see your page and check out simplenet. Thanks, Julian - -------------- Julian Adamaitis Fractelligent Designs visit "Julian's Fractal Page" http://members.aol.com/julianpa julianpa@aol.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 02:59:00 -0600 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) Revised Fractal Webpage Greetings, Seeing how this is the last of one year and soon to be a new one, and it is also the time of a New Moon, I've decided to end my old Fractal Page. The new fractal webpages have expanded by a factor of four, and may be found at the following URL: http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html Some of these images have previously been posted to news:alt.fractals.pictures and/or to news:alt.binaries.pictures.fractals . A heed of caution for those viewing: "It's under construction." (But what website is not.) Also, if you choose to view the larger size images of the thumbnails, then expect some download time (they are all 1024x768 GIFs). Comments (negative or positive) and suggestions may be sent via any means or address applicable. Thanks and Later, P.N.L. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:58:50 +1100 From: "B Michie" Subject: Re: (fractint) Quartz formula pars Please could you tell me where and how to enter these pars into Fractint. I have the latest version, downloaded recently. Just a little help would really be appreciated. Thanks Beth Plant real trees. Don't give me rubbish like, "I'd like a tall tree, but it mustn't grow above the gutters! Oh- and the colour of the flowers mustn't clash with the brickwork -- Spare me !@#$%^&***! - ---------- > From: Clamcake > To: fractint@xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Quartz formula pars > Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 12:44 PM > > Hi, > Three pars generated from two of Paul Derbyshire's Quartz formulas. For some > really good ones download the par file on his web page. If you hate these, > please tell me--I don't know what I'm doing and appreciate tips. Peter > > > Moby-Dick { > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=quartz.frm formulaname=QuartzM1A > center-mag=-0.113651/0.000666847/37.1196/1/90 params=0.25/0 float=y > maxiter=256 inside=bof61 > colors=cEHnED<8>cED000ztC<14>zzv<14>ztC000UUv<11>YFvZDvZCv_Av_Bv<13>UUv0\ > 000uW<29>0uW000EEv<14>SSvSSvRRv<12>EEv000ncD<11>wfXxgZyg`zhbzha<13>ncD00\ > 0zGC<14>z86z86z96<12>zGC000XAv<11>b3bb2ac1_d0Yd0Z<11>XAv009affehgdED<12>\ > sEDuEDtED<3>pED > } > > Balance { > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=quartz.frm formulaname=QuartzM1A > center-mag=-0.09822952111982683/+0.00003178606902763/120.7837/1/-90 > params=1.1/0.0001 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=zmag > colors=cEH`6p<4>XAz00DafjehkdEH<12>sEHuEHtEH<13>cEH000ztG<14>zzz<14>ztG0\ > 00UUz<11>YFzZDzZCz_Az_Bz<13>UUz0000u_<29>0u_000EEz<14>SSzSSzRRz<12>EEz00\ > 0ncH<11>wf`xgbygdzhfzhe<13>ncH000zGG<14>z8Az8Az9A<12>zGG000XAz<11>b3fb2e\ > c1cd0ad0b<5>`5n > } > > Snowman { > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=quartz.frm formulaname=QuartzM2C > center-mag=+0.01106853598744492/-0.00000309424178430/280.0579/1/90 > params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=bof60 > colors=cEH000ncH<11>wf`xgbygdzhfzhe<13>ncH000zGG<14>z8Az8Az9A<12>zGG000X\ > Az<11>b3fb2ec1cd0ad0b<11>XAz00DafjehkdEH<12>sEHuEHtEH<13>cEH000ztG<14>zz\ > z<14>ztG000UUz<11>YFzZDzZCz_Az_Bz<13>UUz0000u_<29>0u_000EEz<14>SSzSSzRRz\ > <12>EEz > } > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- > ------------------------------------------- > QuartzM2C { ; Mandelbrot set 2 sliced diagonally > z=1: > a=z*z > b=z*a > c=z*b > z=(pixel+p1)*(3*c-4*b-6*a+12*z)+(pixel-p1), > |z|<=127} > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- > ------------------------------------------- > QuartzM1A { ; Mandelbrot set 1 (critical point -1) sliced horizontally > z=-1: > a=z*z > b=z*a > c=z*b > z=pixel*(3*c-4*b-6*a+12*z)+p1, > |z|<=127} > > > - > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #49 *****************************