From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #57 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Friday, January 2 1998 Volume 01 : Number 057 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 05:20:36 -0500 From: "Jason Hine" Subject: Re: (fractint) Bitmap randomizer Paul reccommends: >One word: Panorama32. > You can download it at: http://www6.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?fcode=000E6N I think the stuff after info.html is there because I used a search engine... if that URL doesn't work, there's a link to it from http://www.wn.com.au/mladen/9709-16.htm, about halfway down, under 'Resource: Win95/NT Utilities'... Jason - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 05:44:20 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) Composite Gif files Fails to generate? The combined image probably doesn't have any Fractint information in it, so it won't generate properly. If loaded in Fractint, you can view it, but if you try to zoom, it will generate a plasma fractal. - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 05:48:20 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: (fractint) Re: A subject... with no "fractint"! At least, if this goes well, and I have indeed managed to outsmart the majordomo. ;-) ObFractint: Where th'hell is Fractint 20.0 already? You said in 1998. It is now 1998. Fork it over man! :-) - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 06:03:22 -0500 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: SECRETS of the par and frm was Re: (fractint) Binary decomp...?* Jay, >> The -8 is confirmed here - can't be -6, -7, -16, -256. Only -8. How >> did you happen onto that? It was obvious since, with z =3D w-iter, the image was drawn with color= s #9 and 10. - Sylvie - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 06:10:50 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: SECRETS of the par and frm was Re: (fractint) Binary decomp...?* >...The fudge factor. Another programing trick I have not used since >leaving Fortran behind :-) "911 Emergency?" "*gasp* *grunt* I... call an ambulance QUICK! I ruptured something laughing!" "Hello?" *distant laughter* "Damn." - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 06:29:53 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) My Web Pages (again) >I don't think that's enough links, Paul. I mean, what's 500 or so? that he might actually have the complete text up in about 5,000 years> Whaaaaat? Enough links? What links? I gave the URL of my gallery, what more do you ask, a psychically-obtained list of every gallery on the planet? Got the wrong psychic buddy. :-) Spanky has a list of many galleries plus other fractal sites. If you go through them all and weed out the non-galleries, you'll find a lot of what you're looking for. - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 06:40:28 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) My new homepage! >>Guy posts in HTML(:P), asking us to see his fractal page, and then >>neglects to supply the URL. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a newbie! WTF? That got to him, and his follow-up to me, but I never got a copy of my article directly! What gives? I hope I'm not failing to receive other peoples' postings as well as my own...:-) [VMS nostalgia deleted] - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 06:42:09 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) Happy New Year! HNY?!?!?! That's a new TLA for me. What's it mean? - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 06:52:26 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: Sorry... Was: {Re: (fractint) My Web Pages (again)} >And do all fractal ppl stay up late? Yes. - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 06:56:55 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) My Web Pages (again) >Mine's in my .sig :-) Waitaminnit. My carbon copy of this to myself only arrived AFTER the remark you made about my giving only *one* URL and how can you expect to amass 5000 at this rate? Are you psychic, or is it just a clairvoyant mailserver? - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 07:13:58 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: A subject... Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: A subject... Awww, what the HELL??? I thought a "Re:" at the start made it leave it alone! Frigging thing must look to see if the word "fractint" is already in the subject, which is far far cleverer than I anticipated. >ObFractint: Where th'hell is Fractint 20.0 already? You said in 1998. It is >now 1998. Fork it over man! :-) Answer the question already...we all want to know... I will get Fractint 20 if I have to pry it from your cold, dead fingers! muahahahahahahaha! :-) - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 07:19:58 -0500 From: "Jason Hine" Subject: Re: (fractint) Happy New Year! Paul wonders: >HNY?!?!?! That's a new TLA for me. What's it mean? Well, Paul, one standard interpretation is Hot Nekkid Yetis, but in this case, I expect the subject line of this thread spells it out! Cheers! Jason (and WTF does WTF stand for?!?! ;-)) Hine - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 07:30:35 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) Happy New Year! >Well, Paul, one standard interpretation is Hot Nekkid Yetis, but >in this case, I expect the subject line of this thread spells it out! >Cheers! >Jason (and WTF does WTF stand for?!?! ;-)) Hine What the f---??? (Insert the four letter word of your choice.) Hot what what? :-P Or do I want to know? - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 07:35:51 -0500 From: Les St Clair Subject: (fractint) Single-handed spammer! Paul Derbyshire wrote... and wrote.. and wrote... Hey Man, whatever you're on can I have some of it? :) - - Les p.s. here's a par (to keep things on-topic:) 9606A06.GIF { ; "Paul's Trip ?" [cycle this!!] ; t=3D 0:08:58= =2E33 ; t=3Dcalc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1= 200 ; (c)1998 by Les St Clair reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm formulaname=3Dlesfrm13 function=3Dlog/sqr passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0.086277/0.0046945/0.1662784/1/34.999 params=3D5/2.2/-3.41/4 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1000 inside=3Dzmag outside=3D= atan colors=3D011<13>BGJFJV<13>W`uXawW_u<14>H5S<24>zo`<22>cUA<8>000<22>`00<3= >X1\ 2W13V24U25U36<2>R38Q49P49O5AN5BM6C<7>000<23>0xz<15>077<30>1Te1Uf000<31>= 0\ 00 cyclerange=3D0/255 } FRM:Lesfrm13 { ; Les St Clair, 1996 z =3D pixel = x =3D fn1(z) , y =3D fn2(z): x =3D x*p1*pi y =3D y*p2*pi = z =3D x/y |z| <=3D 4 } - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 07:55:55 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) Single-handed spammer! >Paul Derbyshire wrote... >and wrote.. >and wrote... > >Hey Man, whatever you're on can I have some of it? :) WTF??? I didn't make any really long postings...no check that. The calculus one :-) It was on-topic I swear! It may have been about fractal formulas in general but it had examples as Fractint formulas. z=pixel, c=p1 and so forth. >9606A06.GIF { ; "Paul's Trip ?" [cycle this!!] > ; t= 0:08:58.33 > ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 > ; (c)1998 by Les St Clair > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm > formulaname=lesfrm13 function=log/sqr passes=1 > center-mag=0.086277/0.0046945/0.1662784/1/34.999 > params=5/2.2/-3.41/4 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=zmag outside=atan > colors=011<13>BGJFJV<13>W`uXawW_u<14>H5S<24>zo`<22>cUA<8>000<22>`00<3>X1\ > 2W13V24U25U36<2>R38Q49P49O5AN5BM6C<7>000<23>0xz<15>077<30>1Te1Uf000<31>0\ > 00 cyclerange=0/255 > } > >FRM:Lesfrm13 { ; Les St Clair, 1996 > z = pixel > x = fn1(z) , y = fn2(z): > x = x*p1*pi > y = y*p2*pi > z = x/y > |z| <= 4 >} Paul's Trip? You have a crazy sense of humor y'know that? :-) - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:44:46 -0000 From: "Bagpuss" Subject: Re: (fractint) My new homepage! >WTF? That got to him, and his follow-up to me, but I never got a copy of >my article directly! What gives? I hope I'm not failing to receive other >peoples' postings as well as my own...:-) I think you probably miss a lot of things Paul. > >[VMS nostalgia deleted] > Whaddya mean nostolgia? I hated those days, waiting 20 mins for the server to generate 10,000 pseudo random numbers, and then run a statistical analysis. Anything more than 5 users online at once sent the server CRASHING! Can we have a flame war? can we please? its years since I had a really VISCIOUS flame war! can we? LOL:) Stephen. ps. get yourself a mail program that can read HTML, youll appreciate it when i send you one of my special "integrated" hypertext documents, complete with pictures and links. HAHA pps. I'll send a par to atone for this message as soon as I can stop myself from playing with the 3DBalls frm. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:45:27 -0000 From: "Bagpuss" Subject: Re: (fractint) Single-handed spammer! >>Paul Derbyshire wrote... >>and wrote.. >>and wrote... >> >>Hey Man, whatever you're on can I have some of it? :) > >WTF??? I didn't make any really long postings...no check that. The >calculus one :-) >It was on-topic I swear! >It may have been about fractal formulas in general but it had examples as >Fractint formulas. z=pixel, c=p1 and so forth. Sorry, Paul, but IMHO 25 posts in 8 hours, most of them useless, is SPAM. As for your calculus explanation I doubt whether anybody with less than a postgraduate maths degree understood more than a couple of words. Regards Stephen - --- I can be as petty as anyone :-) --- - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:03:37 -0500 From: "Blake Hyde" Subject: Re: (fractint) Formula Question And is what I'm addicted to? *mutter* I'm going to go have an aspirin and lie down somewhere. *sob* And yes, my computer was living in 1997. I don't know why, I think my chipset is about to go KRRRRrRrrRrrrrrugghghuchghgh, if you know what I mean; that horrible wheezing sound just before your OS tells you "System Error." -Blake, who actually tried to understand that - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:12:38 -0500 From: "Blake Hyde" Subject: Re: (fractint) Single-handed spammer! :>>Paul Derbyshire wrote... :>>and wrote.. :>>and wrote... :>> :>>Hey Man, whatever you're on can I have some of it? :) I think PD had just a few too many cups o' coffee. :> :>WTF??? I didn't make any really long postings...no check that. The :>calculus one :-) :>It was on-topic I swear! :>It may have been about fractal formulas in general but it had examples as :>Fractint formulas. z=pixel, c=p1 and so forth. : :Sorry, Paul, but IMHO 25 posts in 8 hours, most of them useless, is SPAM. :As for your calculus explanation I doubt whether anybody with less than a :postgraduate maths degree understood more than a couple of words. I understood several words. "And, the, a, are..." >:) -Blake, who will kill OutEx if his sig shows up... - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 08:14:44 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) Champagne Swirl Paul..... The name Quad came from formulas I got at the Spanky site....hundreds...thousands.....I don't do formulas myself or anything else mathematical. So I'm not the one to whom you need grovel about the name..... Angela aka wizzle At 04:29 AM 1/2/98 -0500, you wrote: > >>and the Quad formula > >HEY! I've been working on a new formula named Quad. The name's taken. Pick >a new one please. :-) > > >I love quad... ehehehehehe! > > >-- > .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for > -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. > `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. >Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com > >- >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 08:39:24 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: (fractint) Formula Questions 1. How big can a file of formulas be? 2. If I change the location of the formula from say....formulafile=fractint.frm ....to web1.frm and change the par accordingly, will this work? I would like to keep all the formulas I get here together and still make the pars work. I assume I put my formula file where fractint.exe is, right? 3. Is there a limitation on the size of par files? Angela - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:26:23 -0000 From: "Bagpuss" Subject: (fractint) 3DBalls question Hi, Having spent some time playing with the 3DBalls frm by Paul Carson, a thought struck me. How easy is it to adapt this formula for other types? Could you use it for a Julia? Could you use it for the INSIDE of a Mandel? could you use it to spice up relatively "monochrome" types, are the possibilities really endless? If I could understand how the damn formula works I'd have a go myself, but I cant work out how the hell it works (anyone like to throw me a tutorial?), so if someone with more skill than me could have a go........ The promised par: WonkasSpiralTunnel { ; Frm (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1997 ; Par Stephen Stafford, 1998 ; 7:11.22 with view set to 2.5 reset=1920 type=formula formulafile=3dballs.frm formulaname=3d_balls_mset passes=t corners=-0.546377030934/-0.546319375487/0.488457378269/0.488519665736 params=0.0065/150/8/30 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000c40<28>zW0aG0<28>zz00C4<28>0zR0CC<28>0zz00O<25>EEuEEwFFxGGzI0K\ <28>fOzO08<28>z0fO00<28>z88000<13>000 } - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:00:02 -0000 From: "Bagpuss" Subject: Re: (fractint) 3DBalls question What a difference a map makes! tunnel2 { reset=1920 type=formula formulafile=3dballs.frm formulaname=3d_balls_mset passes=t center-mag=-0.54634820321063100/+0.48848852200283140/32109.19/1.4405 params=0.0065/150/8/30 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=zzzNvz000Ltz<24>2Xz100000Pjz000Ngz<25>12z00z000000zjt<8>zWmzUlzSl\ zRl<14>z0_000000zjj<26>z00zzb000yy_<23>ll5ll3kk2jj0hzf000fxc<26>Kb0bzr00\ 0_zp<26>0zKbzz000_yy<26>0rrzzz<13>zzz } Stephen - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 09:33:07 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: (fractint) BEJ Formulas I downloaded a bunch of pars from the Spanky site ....among them Brian Jones'. I would very much like to see them, but I am missing the following referenced formula files. formulafile=bjbcmod3.frm formulafile=bj2.frm formulafile=builtn01.frm formulafile=bjsg-g-1.frm formulafile=msg-1.frm formulafile=bjbcmod4.frm formulafile=bej.frm formulafile=bejmod~1.frm formulafile=bjbcmod2.frm I noticed that Sylvie very sensibly made Gallet.frm (which was avaialbe at Spanky) as the single point of reference for her par file. Which leads me to a suggestion....could we have some sort of naming convention for the pars and formulas posted here??? So everything could go into a single file .......say 98list1.frm, 98list2.frm......etc. Not only would this help organize...but also save hard disk space since even a 1k file actually takes up something like 40k of disk space (at least in win95). Thanks for your help..... Angela - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 10:53:07 -0600 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Single-handed spammer! Stephen, - Sorry, Paul, but IMHO 25 posts in 8 hours, most of them useless, is SPAM. - As for your calculus explanation I doubt whether anybody with less than a - postgraduate maths degree understood more than a couple of words. I assume this was rhetoric... the only calculus I ever had was a high school calc class, and I understood what he said. Hmmm, seems I must post a PAR to make up for this digression. I'm not sure what to make of this one; I was just playing around with coloring techniques last night. - -----8<----- Begin dmj-fi1.par RandomExploration { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj.frm formulaname=dmj-Mand-Hyp-2Dec passes=2 center-mag=-0.74696057451907470/-0.09822627122602220/3838.689 params=-0.75/0/15/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 outside=real decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=000100<13>RT0TV0XX0<9>op0<4>zzcxyU<2>ps0<10>XY0VW0SU0<13>12000001\ 01212514625836A37D49E5<11>QbCRdDSfDThEVjF<2>ZpGdrPitYpvguxpzzzvyq<3>_qHZ\ oHYmGXkFUiF<5>NYBMWAKUAIS9<4>CI6BG58D5<5>121000010<3>0930B30D40F40H6<17>\ 0pH4rK8tMCvMGxPKzPGyOCwM<2>0qI<11>0U90S90Q80O80M6<3>0E40C40A2<3>02000000\ 1<13>20T20V40X<9>60p<4>UVzOOyKIwECuB6s50q<3>40i40g30e20c<6>20Q20O10M00K<\ 8>002 cyclerange=0/255 } FRM:dmj-Mand-Hyp-2Dec { ; outside = decomp: 2nd-closest z[n] to hyp. at p1 IF (imag(p2) == 0) ; Invalid value for aspect ratio. p2 = (0,1) + real(p2) ; Substitute a default value. ENDIF IF (real(p3) == 0) ; Invalid value for color scale. p3 = 75 + imag(p3) ; Substitute a default value. ENDIF IF (imag(p3) == 0) ; Invalid value for bailout. p3 = (0,128) + real(p3) ; Substitute a default value. ENDIF closest = 1e+38 ; Closest approach so far. closest2 = closest ; Second-closest. point = 0 ; Point of that closest approach. done = 2 ; Iteration counter. r = (0,1) ^ (real(p2)/90) ; Compute rotation vector. z = 0, c = pixel: ; Mandelbrot initialization. z = sqr(z) + c ; Mandelbrot calculation. done = done + 1 ; Done one more iteration. z2 = (z-p1) * r ; Offset to p1 and rotate. d = abs(imag(z2) * real(z2)) ; Compute hyperbolic distance. IF (d < closest) ; Closer than previous value. point2 = point ; Old closest is now 2nd closest. closest2 = closest point = z ; Save that point. closest = d ; Save the closest approach. ELSEIF (d < closest2) ; Wasn't closest, but was 2nd closest. point2 = z ; Save that point. closest2 = d ENDIF IF (|z| > imag(p3)) ; Point exceeds bailout. z = point2 - point ; Return difference between points. done = -1 ; Set flag to force an exit. ENDIF done >= 0 ; Continue if the flag is clear. } - -----8<----- End dmj-fi1.par Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 10:30:45 -0600 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) The weirdest bird off the planet Paul, - Anyone else notice how a lot of very weird (and very LONG) formulas with - strange new abilities are coming out now that 19.6 has the If-Then clause? With IF-THEN, formula-writing becomes more like programming. I think just about everything that you could do with IF-THEN, you could do before with expressions multiplying a Boolean expression (x < 0) by some other factor--but using IF-THEN makes a faster formula. One reason formulae are getting longer is because people are commenting them more. :) Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 12:08:47 -0600 From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Formula Questions Wizzle asked: > 1. How big can a file of formulas be? All the different kinds of files that have entries (formulas, PAR, lsystems, and IFS) are limited to 2000 entries. This only applies to the user interface that displays the entries in a scrollable list. I believe that it doesn't apply when Fractint is used in batch mode. However, IMHO, the 2000 limit is way big enough, and users are well advised to partition their collections. George Martin has written a great program called Orgform that helps manage your formulas. I recommend it. > 2. If I change the location of the formula from > say....formulafile=fractint.frm ....to web1.frm and change the par > accordingly, will this work? I would like to keep all the formulas I get > here together and still make the pars work. I assume I put my formula file > where fractint.exe is, right? You can specify a directory as well as a default file in the formulafile= line. Fractint will try very hard to find a formula, and will look in every formula file in that directory. If none is specified, the current directory is used (not necessarily the directory where fractint is. Fractint's ability to search for formulas is a mixzed blessing. It CAN mean that Fractint will find the wrong formula with (accidently) the same name. Hence the importance of George's program. From time to time we have big discussions about what Fractint should do, but so far we haven't figured out something better. > 3. Is there a limitation on the size of par files? 2000 entries. There's also a limitationon the size of each individual PAR and formula entry. We had to bump up the limit to accomodate Sylvie Gallet, who writes formulas that spell out words Tim - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 10:31:22 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) 3DBalls question Maps make a tremendous difference.... Try this coloring WonkaWizzle { ; Par Stephen Stafford, 1998 wizzle deep10.map ; Frm (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1997 ; 7:11.22 with view set to 2.5 reset=1920 type=formula formulafile=3dballs.frm formulaname=3d_balls_mset corners=-0.546377030934/-0.546319375487/0.488457378269/0.488519665736 params=0.0065/150/8/30 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000Kbc<2>PRT<9>33B00900A<11>00P<7>cru<15>0UU<3>NdZ<4>KA0<8>zzm<12\ >A00A03A06A0A<3>K5IN6KO7N<8>cKm<9>A0K<10>`rrcwvfzz<15>0IE3KH6NK<14>12k00\ m00l<11>34Q00N<15>znZ<13>S87L97EA7<2>D5IC4MB2QA0UE3X<8>mUw<10>A0K<18>Cww\ <4>Jef } I fiddled around until I got the spiral to produce color bands....the setting may not be perfect....so color cycle a bit...hope you like it Angela At 05:00 PM 1/2/98 -0000, you wrote: >What a difference a map makes! > >tunnel2 { > reset=1920 type=formula formulafile=3dballs.frm > formulaname=3d_balls_mset passes=t > center-mag=-0.54634820321063100/+0.48848852200283140/32109.19/1.4405 > params=0.0065/150/8/30 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ > colors=zzzNvz000Ltz<24>2Xz100000Pjz000Ngz<25>12z00z000000zjt<8>zWmzUlzSl\ > zRl<14>z0_000000zjj<26>z00zzb000yy_<23>ll5ll3kk2jj0hzf000fxc<26>Kb0bzr00\ > 0_zp<26>0zKbzz000_yy<26>0rrzzz<13>zzz > } > > > Stephen > > >- >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 12:04:45 -0700 From: Rich Thomson Subject: Re: (fractint) Happy New Year! In article <34AC238A.3C6B34AE@erols.com> , Dick Amerman writes: > > Hi Les -- I've been following your trials and tribulations and wonder > what it's > all about. I don't think the problem is entirely at your > end. I get your pa rs > and run them with no editing and no problem. > I'm using Netscape's [...] Mail software interacts with messages both at composition time and at delivery time. Some people have mail readers that can handle printed-quotable and they do the decoding. So it displays fine in such mail software. However, not everyone has mail software that understands the printed-quotable encoding. To that software, every = appears as =3D, which for fractint par and frm files is quite annoying. The reason it is suggested turning it off is to accomodate those people who don't have mailers understanding printed-quotable. Also, if the mail message is viewed as a plain text file, the =3D's will be everywhere. In the case of fractint par and frm files, there really isn't any reason to use printed-quotable, because we don't typically use 8-bit characters such as european accented characters in par and frm files. - -- ``Between stimulus and response is the will to choose.'' -- Steven Covey =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 3D Paint: The Power to Create in 3D; Rich Thomson email me for more info rthomson@ptc.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:05:32 -0600 From: "Janisch/Whittington" Subject: (fractint) The uncanny relationship betewwn w*rk and staying up all night...... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BD177F.1B9B7420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Paul D (never heard of w*rk) & Blake H (do all fractal ppl stay up = late/) some of us stay up late and all night playing with Fractint. But = then we do the same thing on the weekends too so I guess it's not a = direct cause and effect.... ? In fact for the first year or two I had = access to Fractint (around '85) I was putting in 40 hour weeks with = Fractint on a regular basis; it was as if I had two jobs. Of course = night job I loved and the day job I didn't ;-) I'm Pam Janisch and have just subscribed to the InterNet. Fractals, = Fractint and Math:fractal geometry, were my first searches. It is = wonderful to be in the company of other fractal aficionados!=20 For the last few years I've been working almost exclusively with the = 3D transform options and the invert command. Fractint can deliver such = lovely, alien landscape objects once I started with them I just couldn't = stop. I exported them to a paint program (a very old, uncomplicated = program) and added a "sky" and/or fractal moons so the original = parameters are lost. I suspect that once I get into some of the formulas = I've downloaded from this site I'll have a whole menu of new objects and = methods to choose from to obsess over. I look forward to it. Perhaps someone can answer a question that I've had for years: the = "attractor" and "log pallet" options have never been successful when I = invoke them, When I change from the defaults on the "x" screen and = generate an image the result is that the commands I've changed have = reverted to the default. Am I just cursed or what? Pam aka Wobbly =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BD177F.1B9B7420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Re: Paul D (never heard of w*rk) = & Blake H=20 (do all fractal ppl stay up late/)
     some of us = stay up late=20 and all night playing with Fractint. But then we do the same thing on = the=20 weekends too so I guess it's not a direct cause and effect.... ?  = In fact=20 for the first year or two I had access to Fractint (around '85) I was = putting in=20 40 hour weeks with Fractint on a regular basis; it was as if I had two = jobs. Of=20 course night job I loved and the day job I didn't  ;-)
    I'm Pam Janisch = and have just=20 subscribed to the InterNet. Fractals, Fractint and Math:fractal = geometry, were=20 my first searches. It is wonderful to be in the company of other fractal = aficionados!
    For the last few = years I've=20 been working almost exclusively with the 3D transform options and the = invert=20 command. Fractint can deliver such lovely, alien landscape objects once = I=20 started with them I just couldn't stop. I exported them to a paint = program (a=20 very old, uncomplicated program) and added a "sky" and/or = fractal=20 moons so the original parameters are lost. I suspect that once I get = into some=20 of the formulas I've downloaded from this site I'll have a whole menu of = new=20 objects and methods to choose from to obsess over. I look forward to=20 it.
    Perhaps someone = can answer a=20 question that I've had for years:  the "attractor" and = "log=20 pallet" options have never been successful when I invoke them, When = I=20 change from the defaults on the "x" screen and generate an = image the=20 result is that the commands I've changed have reverted to the default. = Am I just=20 cursed or what?
     Pam aka=20 Wobbly  
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