From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #60 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Monday, January 5 1998 Volume 01 : Number 060 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:47:39 -0700 (MST) From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: (fractint) Updated fractal gallery Instead of getting involved in the new age thread, I was off from work for 2 weeks making my own statement of fractal/new age philosophy. See if you can find in on: http://www.primenet.com/~lkmitch/ Enjoy! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 04:11:18 -0600 From: "Debora A Henderson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Wrong slant on address In a message dated 98-01-02 18:30:51 EST, you write: << Ron, - http:\\members.aol.com\RBarn0001>> Hey, don't sweat it. I didn't pay the address any attention when I "cut and paste" it into the address line. I hit go and it went. Good page, too, BTW. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 07:00:52 -0500 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) PokornyConesJulia Hi All, Yet another formula and par from Paul Carlson! - Sylvie - -------------------------------------------------------- Here's another formula quite similar to the 3D_Phoenix_Spirals formula I sent some time ago, the similarity being that both formulas use a variation of the ATAN method. I've added a couple of PAR files that produce images that I like. Don't be put off by the maxiter=3D5000, they both execute quite fast. PokornyConesJulia {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1997 ;**************************************************** ; Always use floating point math and outside=3Dsumm. ; ; Parameters: ; p1 =3D coordinates of the Julia set ; real(p2) =3D number of color ranges ; imag(p2) =3D number of colors in each color range ; ; Note that the equation variable is w, not z. Always ; initialize z to zero. ;**************************************************** prev_w =3D pixel c =3D p1 z =3D 0 bailout =3D 0 iter =3D 0 range_num =3D 0 ;**************************************************** ; In the accompanying par files, pkcones1 & 2.par, ; we have 2 color ranges with 125 colors in each range ; for a total of 250 colors. The first range starts at ; color 1. Pixels will use color 255 when w < 1.0. ; Other values can be used here as long as the product ; of num_ranges times colors_in_range is less than 255. ;**************************************************** num_ranges =3D real(p2) colors_in_range =3D imag(p2): ;**************************************************** ; The equation being iterated. This is the ; Pokorny equation. ;**************************************************** w =3D 1 / (prev_w * prev_w + c) ;**************************************************** ; If |w| exceeds a value of 4.0, set z to the index ; into the colormap and set the bailout flag. ;**************************************************** IF (|w| > 4) ;*************************************************** ; Compute the angle between the last 2 orbit points ;*************************************************** delta_i =3D imag(w) - imag(prev_w) delta_r =3D real(w) - real(prev_w) angle =3D abs(atan(delta_i / delta_r)) IF (delta_r < 0) angle =3D pi - angle ENDIF bailout =3D 1 range_index =3D colors_in_range * angle / pi z =3D range_index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF prev_w =3D w ;**************************************************** ; Cycle through the range numbers (0 thru num_ranges - 1) ; With two color ranges, even iterations use color ; range 0, odd iterations use color range 1. ;**************************************************** range_num =3D range_num + 1 IF (range_num =3D=3D num_ranges) range_num =3D 0 ENDIF ;**************************************************** ; Since we are using outside=3Dsumm, we have to subtract ; the number of iterations from z. ;**************************************************** iter =3D iter + 1 z =3D z - iter ;**************************************************** ; Finally, we test for bailout ;**************************************************** bailout =3D=3D 0 } pkcones1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1997 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dpkycones.frm formulaname=3DPokornyConesJulia passes=3D1 corners=3D0.32024997/1.1275833/-0.28875/0.31675 params=3D-1.721302083333/0.010600585938/2/125 float=3Dy maxiter=3D5000 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm colors=3D000G0G<123>zVz0GG<123>Vzz000<3>000 } pkcones2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1997 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dpkycones.frm formulaname=3DPokornyConesJulia passes=3D1 corners=3D0.55438357/0.91451157/0.2032067/0.4733027 params=3D-1.550794271/0.023072917/2/125 float=3Dy maxiter=3D5000 inside=3D0 outside=3Dsumm colors=3D000G0G<123>zVz0GG<123>Vzz000<3>000 } - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 09:41:58 -0500 From: Les St Clair Subject: (fractint) Long Time Coming! Hi All, I've been making fractals for five years and on the internet for two. So why no Fractal web page? I dunno! Anyway, it's there now! Find it at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ There's two galleries of Fractint images, plus all my par files & formula= s to download. There's also galleries of Flarium24 and Fractal Elite images (am I allowe= d to mention them here?) Not only that, but a Fractal eXtreme movie too! (which you can see "live"= on your browser if you're using Netscape Navigator 3 or Internet Explorer= 4). Have a nice long phone call! cheers, Les - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 10:08:51 -0500 From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) 3D Phoenix Spirals Sylvie Gallet wrote: > .....3D_Phoenix_Spirals formula I sent some time ago, ..... For some reason I either lost or did not receive this. May I ask that you post it again, or send it to me privately? Thanks, Gedeon - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 08:16:03 -0800 From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) 3D Phoenix Spirals Done - ---------- > From: Gedeon Peteri > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (fractint) 3D Phoenix Spirals > Date: Sunday, January 04, 1998 7:08 AM > > Sylvie Gallet wrote: > > > .....3D_Phoenix_Spirals formula I sent some time ago, ..... > > For some reason I either lost or did not receive this. May I ask that > you post it again, or send it to me privately? Thanks, Gedeon > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 10:22:25 -0600 From: Janet Preslar Subject: Re: (fractint) Long Time Coming! Great gallery, Les!! > Find it at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ Janet - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 08:40:47 -0800 From: "Jim sellers" Subject: (fractint) Color Maps Hi; Can anyone steer me to some info on Color Maps ? I posted a message like this a week ago but my Server has been down and all my mail was lost. Thanks Jim Sellers - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 09:06:28 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Maps Jim.... I'm not sure what you want to know about color maps....but Linda Allison has two excellent lessons on using and making them which I host at my web site.... http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractalintro.htm These lessons are easy to understand and full of examples. I liked them so much I asked Linda if I could host them so they would always be available......also take a quick look at my Fractint hints which gives the very basics of grabbing a color map from an existing image. Angela aka wizzle ps. you are welcome to download any of my gifs and use my color maps At 08:40 AM 1/4/98 -0800, you wrote: >Hi; Can anyone steer me to some info on Color Maps ? >I posted a message like this a week ago but my Server >has been down and all my mail was lost. >Thanks Jim Sellers > > >- >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 09:13:11 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) Long Time Coming! Les.... Wonderful page...no wonder it took you two years!!! My first effort was really shabby in comparison. I particularly liked the way you put the pars to download with the images.....no wondering what goes with what. I also liked seeing your early efforts........you've come a long way baby!!! The page downloaded nicely, as well....but then Sunday morning is optimum download time. How do you like Flarium?? (did I say a bad word)???? Angela At 09:41 AM 1/4/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hi All, > >I've been making fractals for five years and on the internet for two. So >why no Fractal web page? >I dunno! > >Anyway, it's there now! > >Find it at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ > >There's two galleries of Fractint images, plus all my par files & formulas >to download. >There's also galleries of Flarium24 and Fractal Elite images (am I allowed >to mention them here?) >Not only that, but a Fractal eXtreme movie too! (which you can see "live" >on your browser if you're using Netscape Navigator 3 or Internet Explorer >4). > >Have a nice long phone call! > >cheers, Les > >- >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 12:02:51 -0500 From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Maps To make Fractint color maps check out Ron Barnett's Makemap. Download at http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/index.htm There is another app called Mapmaker, by Jack Orman. Download at http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/jorman/jorman.html Gedeon Jim sellers wrote: > Hi; Can anyone steer me to some info on Color Maps ? - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 12:11:29 -0800 From: Peter Jakubowicz Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Maps At 08:40 AM 1/4/98 -0800, you wrote: >Hi; Can anyone steer me to some info on Color Maps ? I've very recently been using makemap, a neat freeware utility by Ron Barnett (thanks) and highly recommend it. It's really easy to use, even for an idiot like me. Available at http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/index.html Peter - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 09:21:21 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Maps Gedeon... What do those apps do that Fractint doesn't??? Angela At 12:02 PM 1/4/98 -0500, you wrote: >To make Fractint color maps check out Ron Barnett's Makemap. Download at > >http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/index.htm >There is another app called Mapmaker, by Jack Orman. Download at >http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/jorman/jorman.html >Gedeon > >Jim sellers wrote: > >> Hi; Can anyone steer me to some info on Color Maps ? > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 12:15:03 -0800 From: Peter Jakubowicz Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Maps At 12:11 PM 1/4/98 -0800, you wrote: >At 08:40 AM 1/4/98 -0800, you wrote: >>Hi; Can anyone steer me to some info on Color Maps ? >an idiot like me. Available at that sould have been http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/index.htm Idiot, me, like I said. >Peter - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 13:00:11 -0500 From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Maps Angela, They may be helpful if you want to make maps from scratch, so to speak, without a particular fractal in mind. In addition, Mapmaker can save (or convert) map files in the csv format, which can then be graphed and manipulated in interesting ways in Excel. Wizzle wrote: > What do those apps do that Fractint doesn't??? - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 10:18:33 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Maps Humpf.... I do that anyway with Fractint based on what I learned from Linda. I've been able to figure out how to make maps that "do" things in a general way (like carving out areas of black) then do very minor tweeking for particular images. What I like about Linda's explanations is she say HOW a map enhances and image...not just the mechanics. But the excel part sounds interesting.....and I know we all learn in different ways....do you have examples of stuff before and after excel manipulation?? I can only understand what I can see.....not technical explanations. Angela At 01:00 PM 1/4/98 -0500, you wrote: >Angela, >They may be helpful if you want to make maps from scratch, so to speak, >without a particular fractal in mind. In addition, Mapmaker can save (or >convert) map files in the csv format, which can then be graphed and >manipulated in interesting ways in Excel. > >Wizzle wrote: > >> What do those apps do that Fractint doesn't??? - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 10:26:42 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: (fractint) Zipping I would like to zip up some of my color maps so I can post them at my website for downloading. Does anyone have any recommendations for a zip program that runs under win95 and is of the brainless drag and drop variety?? I'm not good at DOS and PKUnzip (though I have it). Angela - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 13:21:34 -0500 From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Zipping Latest version of Winzip 6.3 Wizzle wrote: > I would like to zip up some of my color maps so I can post them at my > website for downloading. Does anyone have any recommendations for a zip > program that runs under win95 and is of the brainless drag and drop > variety?? I'm not good at DOS and PKUnzip (though I have it). > > Angela > > - > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:58:44 -0500 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Long Time Coming! Hi Les, >> Find it at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ =2E.. >> Have a nice long phone call! Loooooooooooooooong but nice! Great gallery, Les! - Sylvie - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:08:32 EST From: RBarn0001 Subject: Re: (fractint) Web Page Update In a message dated 98-01-03 18:28:11 EST, you write: << These are very interesting pictures. Some of them look like they use various "orbit boost" techniques, particularly ones like Whirlpool. Aside from the smooth coloring :) how were they created? >> The formula for WhirlPool is actually quite ordinary. Its the standard Fractint mandel(fn||fn). Here is the equivalent Fractint par file. This will generate the same image, but with the banding characteristic of Fractint: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------------------------------- WhirlPool { ; . t= 0:02:25.72 ; Copyright Ron Barnett [70153,1233], Jan 1998 ; On a Cyrix 6x86(P200+) at 1024 x 768 reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=flip/sqr passes=1 center-mag=-0.99999412050000000/-0.00000169056482000/24813.85/0.8904/-39\ .999 params=0/0/0.15 float=y maxiter=999 bailout=100 inside=0 periodicity=0 colors=0000dL<7>0zW<7>0JJ<14>0xx0zz2tt<6>JE9<15>yjU<7>BJF<15>_zn<6>LO3<8\ >px9<5>KMGFGIBBM<14>WWz<7>J9J<15>zWz<7>J09<15>z0W<7>J90<15>zW0<7>JJ0<15>\ zz0<7>99J<15>WWz<7>0J9<6>0bJ } - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------------ Some of the images do use a variant of the Pickover orbit trap method. The variant allows coloring to give a more 3D effect, and a user variable to determine how close to the x or y axis the orbit must be to be trapped. The coloring is based upon both the iteration count and how close the orbit is when it is trapped. I am thinking about incorporating some of Paul Carlson's great methods, since it would be a simple add-on to my current code. >> I put together a quick FractInt FRM to mess around with the technique--it is most effective, even in 256 colors. What's particularly impressive is that it works for types like NovaM, where I've been trying in vain to apply Linas Vepstas' algorithm. How does the exponential color value relate to the iteration value (or does it)? >> As far as the relationship between the iteration count and exponential color value, I have done some empirical exploring running the compiler in the debug mode but have found no clear relationship. For low iteration counts the iteration count may be 10 fold or so larger. As the iteration count increases it looks like the exponential color value might converge towards the iteration value. For some of the images on my page, the ratio is less than 1.5. This might be an interesting area to explore mathematically. Note that for WhirlPool the Fractint coloring based upon the iteration count and exponential coloring are quite close. All I had to do was to rotate the palette a little bit. Ron - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:15:09 EST From: RBarn0001 Subject: Re: (fractint) Wrong slant on address In a message dated 98-01-04 05:17:40 EST, you write: << Hey, don't sweat it. I didn't pay the address any attention when I "cut and paste" it into the address line. I hit go and it went. Good page, too, BTW. >> Thanks for you kind comments. Ron - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:21:24 EST From: RBarn0001 Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Maps Thanks, everyone who is using Makemap. By the way, any fractint map, including the ones created with Makemap, can be readily brought into Excel by using space as the delimiter rather than comma (csv). Special note to Angela: Makemap can create maps, both by the Fractint approach, and it can also use four different algorithms to design a complete map (sine, fourier, HSI and RGB). It runs under Windows 3.1 and 95. I haven't checked it under NT. Ron - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:14:18 EST From: RBarn0001 Subject: Re: (fractint) Web Page Update In a message dated 98-01-03 21:09:36 EST, you write: << Nice page (jeez, I *really* gotta work on mine now!)... one wierd thing I noticed was a couple of rectangular areas on the left (but to the right of the Galleries list) would blank out when I scroll... it could just be my browser ($#%&*! Micrapsoft!)... Nice, nice page 'tho... >> Thanks for the kind words. One of the perils of web page design is you never know for sure how it will look on other people's browsers. I guess we all must rely upon the helpful comments of others. I don't see the rectangular areas with my browser. I tested with Netscape 3.0 and Explorer 4.0. I don't know what Explorer 3.0 or Netscape 4.0 do. What is your browser? Comments from anyone else who has visited by site would be appreciated Ron http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001 - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:16:48 -0800 From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Watch out! was Re: (fractint) Web Page Update Hi Ron, "WhirlPool is actually quite ordinary". Well I don't understand what it the formula is doing. I went exploring around and nearly got eaten alive! I must be more careful poking around in someone else's pool after hours! Jay Jaws { ; Variation by Jay Hill, 1998 ; after Ron Barnett, 1998 reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=flip/sqr passes=1 center-mag=-0.19270038748862370/+0.67895009630401400/29.75496/0.9645/-5.\ 657/6.412 params=0/0/0.15 float=y maxiter=999 bailout=100 inside=0 periodicity=0 colors=0000dL<7>0zW<7>0JJ<12>0rr0uu0xx0zz2tt4nm<5>JE9<15>yjU<7>BJF<15>_z\ n<6>LO3<8>px9<5>KMGFGIBBM<14>WWz<7>J9J<15>zWz<7>J09<15>z0W<7>J90<15>zW0<\ 7>JJ0<15>zz0<7>99J<15>WWz<7>0J9<6>0bJ savename=Jaws } - ---------- > From: RBarn0001 > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (fractint) Web Page Update > Date: Sunday, January 04, 1998 1:08 PM > > In a message dated 98-01-03 18:28:11 EST, you write: > > << These are very interesting pictures. Some of them look like they use > various "orbit boost" techniques, particularly ones like Whirlpool. Aside > from the smooth coloring :) how were they created? > >> > > The formula for WhirlPool is actually quite ordinary. Its the standard > Fractint mandel(fn||fn). Here is the equivalent Fractint par file. This will > generate the same image, but with the banding characteristic of Fractint: > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ WhirlPool { ; . t= 0:02:25.72 ; Copyright Ron Barnett [70153,1233], Jan 1998 ; On a Cyrix 6x86(P200+) at 1024 x 768 reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=flip/sqr passes=1 center-mag=-0.99999412050000000/-0.00000169056482000/24813.85/0.8904/-39\ .999 params=0/0/0.15 float=y maxiter=999 bailout=100 inside=0 periodicity=0 colors=0000dL<7>0zW<7>0JJ<14>0xx0zz2tt<6>JE9<15>yjU<7>BJF<15>_zn<6>LO3<8\ >px9<5>KMGFGIBBM<14>WWz<7>J9J<15>zWz<7>J09<15>z0W<7>J90<15>zW0<7>JJ0<15>\ zz0<7>99J<15>WWz<7>0J9<6>0bJ } > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 15:29:39 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) Web Page Update Ron... As I recall...I didn't see the retangular area either...I'm sure I would have said something (too much, probably). I run Navigator Gold 3.0.....nice and stable...I've had IE crash my windows twice with half-baked betas and wouldn't go near it again...plus it doesn't run animated gifs at all well...there is a darn good reason why Uncle Bill is trying to stuff his freebie down everyone's throats....it ain't no Netscape. Angela At 04:14 PM 1/4/98 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-01-03 21:09:36 EST, you write: > ><< > Nice page (jeez, I *really* gotta work on mine now!)... one wierd thing I > noticed was a couple of rectangular areas on the left (but to the right of >the > Galleries list) would blank out when I scroll... it could just be my browser > ($#%&*! Micrapsoft!)... Nice, nice page 'tho... > >> > >Thanks for the kind words. One of the perils of web page design is you never >know for sure how it will look on other people's browsers. I guess we all >must rely upon the helpful comments of others. I don't see the rectangular >areas with my browser. I tested with Netscape 3.0 and Explorer 4.0. I don't >know what Explorer 3.0 or Netscape 4.0 do. What is your browser? Comments from >anyone else who has visited by site would be appreciated > >Ron > >http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001 > >- >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 15:47:47 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Maps Ron.... Thanks for the explanation....let's see foyer transformation (has to do with decorating the entry hall)....sines (poor thing can't spell sign or foyer).....and 4 algorithms, eh??? (probably a new rock band). It's truly wonderful how Fractint allows us artsy types to communicate so well with you technical/math wizards and brings us together. Angela At 04:21 PM 1/4/98 EST, you wrote: >Thanks, everyone who is using Makemap. By the way, any fractint map, including >the ones created with Makemap, can be readily brought into Excel by using >space as the delimiter rather than comma (csv). > >Special note to Angela: Makemap can create maps, both by the Fractint >approach, and it can also use four different algorithms to design a complete >map (sine, fourier, HSI and RGB). It runs under Windows 3.1 and 95. I haven't >checked it under NT. > >Ron > >- >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:01:28 -0500 From: Les St Clair Subject: Re: (fractint) Long Time Coming! Hi Janet, Angela, Sylvie, Paul... Re: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ Thanks for all your kind words. The feed-back was much appreciated Angela wrote: >>How do you like Flarium?? (did I say a bad word)???? << Did someone mention true-color Actually, I've just started using it after seeing what you clever people = on the web have been doing with it!! It just occured to me, with nearly 800 Fractint parameters zipped on my pages, I should have included a link for Michael Peters Par-to-bat utility!! cheers, Les - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:54:57 -0500 From: "Brian E. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Long Time Coming! Hi Les, >> So why no Fractal web page? I dunno! Anyway, it's there now! Find it at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ << Super Pages!!! I really like the way you have included a "taste" of images for each available par set!!!! Very Nice!!!! Brian http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Brian_E_Jones - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 09:19:28 +1100 From: "B Michie" Subject: (fractint) Quartz formula QuartzM2C { ; Mandelbrot set 2 sliced diagonally z=1: a=z*z b=z*a c=z*b z=(pixel+p1)*(3*c-4*b-6*a+12*z)+(pixel-p1), |z|<=127} Could someone please tell me, to use this formula, which is the part to be saved in a frm file? All, or just from z down? Also, having saved a frm, Fractint prompts for parameters. How do you feed info from par file to the pars screen? IS it just a matter of having 2 half size screens open, and manually entering the pars, or can Fractint automatically enter parameters from a specified par file. If so, where does one specify the par file? Your tolerance and patience appreciated Beth Plant real trees. Don't give me rubbish like, "I'd like a tall tree, but it mustn't grow above the gutters! Oh- and the colour of the flowers mustn't clash with the brickwork -- Spare me !@#$%^&***! - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:31:16 +1100 From: "B Michie" Subject: (fractint) entering formulas Angela, Bill, and all helpful fractinters, Getting there slowly This is the par file, exactly as saved in notepad. No spaces apart from those to the left of reset. Saved in fractint/pars elegance { ; by Angela 1997 using deeps7.map reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=bessels.frm formulaname=BESSEL-2 center-mag=-8.88178e-016/6.66134e-016/1.041667/1/90 float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0 colors=00000S<6>000<15>zzm<15>0000700F0<13>0zm<13>080040000<15>z0z<14>40\ 400K<15>zzz<14>44N<2>4A45D5<13>QvjSzmRwj<14>C00<15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>\ 000<15>00z<7>00W } THis is the frm file, saved in notepad via edit, in order to retain the frm extension. Notepad will only save as txt. Saved as BESSELL-2.FRM in fractint BESSEL-2 { c = z = pixel: z = cos(z) / z + pixel, |z| <= 100 } Am I right so far? I still get an oops message, and can't parse that formula Is there a way for the pars to load automatically, or does one always type them in manually THanks, Beth Plant real trees. Don't give me rubbish like, "I'd like a tall tree, but it mustn't grow above the gutters! Oh- and the colour of the flowers mustn't clash with the brickwork -- Spare me !@#$%^&***! - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 06:05:32 -0500 From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) entering formulas At 09:31 AM 1/2/98 +1100, you wrote: >Angela, Bill, and all helpful fractinters, >BESSEL-2 { > c = z = pixel: > z = cos(z) / z + pixel, > |z| <= 100 >} > >Am I right so far? >I still get an oops message, and can't parse that formula I may be doing this all wrong, but what I do seems to work fine for me. Due to limitations of notepad I have .frms' defaulted to WP. In the above formula, I suspect a little bit was missing: first line after Bessel-2 I added: (after the "{" ; Bessel2 It now works fine. The .par, after inserting into .par file also worked fine. (got rid of the ">'s". (>Is there a way for the pars to load automatically, or does one always type >them in manually) For what I am doing, still using windows, I highlight the entire thing, hit ctrl-c, bring up where I am going to put the item, then hit ctrl-v. Saves a lot of typing. THanks, >Beth HTH davides@pipeline.com "Do Not Meddle In The Affairs Of Dragons For You Are Crunchy And Good With Ketchup" - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #60 *****************************