From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #145 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Friday, March 27 1998 Volume 01 : Number 145 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:27:05 -0800 (PST) From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: Re: (fractint) combo6 Please NO "Rich Text" at all! T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie WHOOKAM88@YAHOO.COM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:03:20 -0600 (CST) From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Flexball Mandelbrot Formula comment { I call this rendering method my "flexball" method because it's a modification of my "tangent ball" method (which consists of strings of balls tangent to each other). Flex balls are connected to the "balls" on either side of them along a line, and the balls can appear very compressed or very elongated, whereas the tangent balls usually remain more or less round. In this formula I use the flexball method on the standard Mandelbrot equation; however, it works nicely with many differnt equations including Newton's method fractals. This is one of my more complicated rendering methods, using a ring orbit trap and setting the color range depending on which 1/8 of the ring the point falls in. The complicated part is the computation of color index within a range, to make the flexballs appear rounded without repeating colors within them. I chose these pars to give you an idea of the different effects possible with the flexball rendering method. Paul Carlson } frm:FlexBalls_Mand {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; p1 = radius of center of ring (0.01 to 10) ; p2 = one half thickness of ring (0.01 to p1) ; c = pixel w = z = iter = bailout = 0 d0 = p1 + p2 d1 = 0.382683432365 * p1 d2 = 0.923879532511 * p1 dsqd = d0 * d0 + p1 * p1 - (d0 + d0) * d2 : w = w * w + c ; Classic Mandelbrot set ; IF ((abs(cabs(w) - p1) < p2) && iter > 0) bailout = 1 wr = real(w), wi = imag(w) awr = abs(wr), awi = abs(wi) IF (awr >= awi) dist = (awr - d2) * (awr - d2) + (awi - d1) * (awi - d1) adjust = 1 ELSE dist = (awr - d1) * (awr - d1) + (awi - d2) * (awi - d2) adjust = 0 ENDIF IF (wr >= 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 1 - adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 2 + adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi < 0) range_num = 5 - adjust ELSE range_num = 6 + adjust ENDIF ratio = sqrt(dist / dsqd) z = 29 * ratio + range_num * 30 + 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1000 } fballm00 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fballmnd.par formulaname=flexballs_mand passes=t corners=-5.883141/5.01085/-4.085247/4.085247 params=10/0/5/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I\ 0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40000<10>000zzz000000 cyclerange=1/240 } fballm01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fballmnd.par formulaname=FlexBalls_Mand passes=t center-mag=-0.74884298311694290/+0.16491841150000000/5337.219 params=0.08/0/0.08/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>\ O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C4000<13>000 cyclerange=1/240 } fballm02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fballmnd.par formulaname=flexballs_mand passes=1 corners=-1.994336436926/-1.994329835296/4.401086666311e-00\ 6/-4.401086667012e-006/-1.994329835296/-4.401086667012e-006 params=3/0/1/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00\ OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00000<10>000zzz000000 cyclerange=1/240 } fballm03 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fballmnd.par formulaname=FlexBalls_Mand passes=t center-mag=-0.74474559426453200/+0.12166073655473960/5144\ 4.13/1/-174.999 params=0.15/0/0.03/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>\ O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C4000<10>000zzz000000 cyclerange=1/240 } fballm04 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fballmnd.par formulaname=flexballs_mand passes=1 corners=-1.994336436926/-1.994329835296/4.401086666311e-00\ 6/-4.401086667012e-006/-1.994329835296/-4.401086667012e-006 params=10/0/5/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I\ 0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40000<10>000zzz000000 cyclerange=1/240 } - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:56:30 -0600 (CST) From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) New Flexball Colormap comment ( Try this colormap with the images created by the pars and the FlexBalls_Mand formula that I uploaded an hour ago. Paul Carlson } fbmap01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 colors=000fOz<28>I0KfOz<28>I0KfOz<28>I0KfOz<28>I0Kzz0<28>aG\ 0zz0<28>aG0zz0<28>aG0zz0<28>aG0000<13>000 } - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:58:00 -0500 From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: (fractint) Misc Friends, A few thoughts and suggestions. > 051597-002-m1-m2-m3 { One reason this formula was causing a problem is that the name exceeds the limit of 18 characters. The next release of fractint will report an error if a formula name exceeds 18 characters, but for now people just need to be aware of the limit and observe it. > qq=10^-2 A couple of Paul's "nuclear" formulas contain statements where a negative exponent is used. The formula parser has trouble with this, because the operator "^" and the unary operator "-" (negation) have the same precedence, and the associativity of operators with the same precedence is always left to right. To assure that the formula will work as intended, the exponent must be parenthesized, i.e. qq=10^(-2). There is no warning about this in the current release; the next release will report an unparenthesized negative exponent as an error. Re the naming of par entries: 1. The name ends with the first blank space, "(", or "{" encountered. Thus mypar one { mypar two { mypar three { are all treated as having the same name "mypar". 2. Users of Michael Peters' utility "partobat" are appreciative of artists who use image names of 8 characters or less, since this fits with Mike's method of naming the .gif files produced by a run of partobat. This is especially true when there is a series of par images with the same initial characters and a numerical suffix, (mypar1, mypar2, mypar3 etc.) If the numerical suffix appears after the eighth character of the entry name, partobat uses its own numerical suffix system to differentiate the .gif files, and it is often difficult for the user to then match the .gif file with the par entry which produced it. Regards, George Martin - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:29:42 -0500 From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Misc At 09:58 AM 3/26/98 -0500, you wrote: >Friends, > > A few thoughts and suggestions. > >> 051597-002-m1-m2-m3 { > >One reason this formula was causing a problem is that the name exceeds the >limit of 18 characters. The next release of fractint will report an error >if a formula name exceeds 18 characters, but for now people just need to be >aware of the limit and observe it. Coulda/shoulda simply renamed the frm 051597-002-m3 with comment inn the par as to the modifications...mea culpa. davides@pipeline.com Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:04:41 -0800 From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) MandNewt11 Here are some pars based on Jim Muth's formula MandNewt11. 2_golfballs_rising { ; 3-25-98 kathy roth ; frm by Jim Muth reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mandne~1.frm formulaname=MandNewt11 center-mag=-0.58872/0.651341/1.551775 params=2/1/1/1/1/1 inside=bof61 decomp=4096 colors=000kgF<11>0Wz<7>000000029<5>zG0\ <15>00z<7>000<6>z00<15>0Gz<6>02800\ 0000<6>zW0<15>0kz<7>000000<6>zz0<15>\ 0zk<7>000000<6>Wz0<7>000000<14>z0z<1\ 5>000000<6>0zW<7>000000<6>kz0<15>0zz<7>\ 000000<6>zk0<2>ohB } 3moreballs { ; 3-25-98 kathy roth ; frm by Jim Muth reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mandne~1.frm formulaname=MandNewt11 center-mag=-0.601172/0.886141/1.551766/1/-64.999 params=2/1/1/1/1/1 inside=bof61 decomp=4096 colors=000<7>zWA<6>000<7>VTI<6>000000<7>\ aZM<6>000000<7>fcS<6>000000<7>jh\ Z<6>000000<7>jjU<6>000000<7>jjP<6>000000\ <7>jjK<6>000000<7>jjF<6>000000<7\ >jjA<6>000000<7>mjA<6>000000<7>rjA<6>000000\ <7>wjA<6>000000<7>zjA<6>00000\ 0<7>zeA<6>000000<7>z`A<6>000000 } just a different palette- 3amoreballs { ; 3-25-98 kathy roth ; frm by Jim Muth reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mandne~1.frm formulaname=MandNewt11 center-mag=-0.601172/0.886141/1.551766/1/-64.999 params=2/1/1/1/1/1 inside=bof61 decomp=4096 colors=000krA<4>KMGFGIBBM<14>WWz<7>J9J<15>zWz<7\ >J09<15>z0W<7>J90<15>zW0<\ 7>JJ0<15>zz0<7>99J<15>WWz<7>0J9<15>0zW<7>0JJ<\ 14>0xx0zz2tt<6>JE9<15>yjU<7\ >BJF<15>_zn<6>LO3<8>px9 } 1pinwheel { ; 3-25-98 kathy roth ; frm by Jim Muth reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mandne~1.frm formulaname=MandNewt11 center-mag=+0.00021889805800000/+1.24963096000000000/11203.23/0.9996 params=1/1/1/1/1/1 inside=bof61 decomp=4096 colors=000<6>z00<7>000000<6>0Gz<6>02\ 8000000<6>zW0<7>000000<6>0kz<7>00000\ 0<6>zz0<7>000000<6>0zk<7>000000<6>Wz0\ <7>000000<14>z0z<15>000000<6>0zW<7>\ 000000<6>kz0<7>000000<6>0zz<7>000000<6>zk0\ <7>000000<6>0Wz<7>000000029<5>\ zG0<7>000000<6>00z<7>000 } 4boundary { ; 3-25-98 kathy roth ; frm by Jim Muth reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mandne~1.frm formulaname=MandNewt11 passes=b center-mag=-0.0206977/0.00605059/0.4371746/1/-90 params=2/1/1/1/2/1 fillcolor=255 inside=bof61 decomp=4096 colors=0000J0<5>0W0000<14>WW0422<13\ >zWW000<14>zzW000<14>zW0000<14>z0W000\ <14>zWk000<14>zWz000<14>z0z000<14>0Wz000<\ 14>WWz000<14>00z000<14>0WW000<1\ 4>0zz000<14>0zW000<14>0z0000<6>0F0ccU } MandNewt11 {; Jim Muth z=g=pixel, a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), c=real(p2), d=imag(p2), e=real(p3), f=imag(p3): h=z^a+(g-b)*z-f j=c*z^d+g z=z-e*h/j, .0000000000000000000000000000005 <= |h| } - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:41:36 -0600 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) Use of Fractal Images Greetings, I received an email today that stated the following: > > I have been playing with computer programs to capture > pixel patterns from images and transform them into > workable needlework patterns. I love the rich organic > images of fractals and have translated many into wall > hangings - so far for personal use for myself, and as > gifts to family (many of whom are physicists, and LOVE > the idea) and friends. Recently, I have had some nibbles > from two different needlework companies interested in > buying my designs for sale as kits and/or pattern > leaflets in the public domain. > It went on from there to say they had used some of the images from my website (listing each image's name). They also discussed how they were "financially independant and not in need of the money". But ended the email with the following: > > At a minimum, I feel obligated to give credit to the > creator of the original image source and, at worst, > realize you may wish to prohibit me from proceeding > altogether. > Please let me know how you feel about my use of your > images to create products for sale. I realize the > copywriting of fractal images is a grey area but I am > nowhere good enough yet with Fractint to produce my > own, thus I feel I must defer to you as the 'owner' > and accept your wishes in this matter. > My questions to all those in Fractal-Land, what would YOU do in this situation?? Is a needlework product of one's fractal image infringement of ownership rights, or is it a seperate interpreted image?? Should there be equitable compensation for the use of such image/s, or would just the acknowledgement of the originator be sufficient?? Any and all comments welcome (on or off the discussion list). Later, P.N.L. - ------------------------------------------------- Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. - ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:51:53 -0700 (MST) From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) Use of Fractal Images Paul, In my opinion, you have a valid case for copyright infringment. There's nothing gray about copyrighting fractal images. The final needlework piece is a separate, individually-copyrightable work, but it's existance depends on your original work. To me, that is clear. However, the next question is what to do now. I think that I would see if this person is worth dealing with. If so, I would push for a business relationship wherein you either sell them a flat license or get royalties for the use of the image. Or, take it directly to the needlework company and identify yourself as the copyright holder of the image, and deal with them. In any case, you deserve to be compensated for the use of your image, should you desire compensation. At the very least, you deserve to have your wishes respected as to how the image is used. Push for compensation or demand that they stop using your work. Kerry - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Paul N. Lee wrote: > My questions to all those in Fractal-Land, what would YOU do in this > situation?? Is a needlework product of one's fractal image infringement > of ownership rights, or is it a seperate interpreted image?? Should > there be equitable compensation for the use of such image/s, or would > just the acknowledgement of the originator be sufficient?? > > Any and all comments welcome (on or off the discussion list). > > Later, > P.N.L. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:40:20 -0800 From: Peter Jakubowicz Subject: (fractint) Nuclear MeltDown Redux (Pars) Here are some pars. Just saw a copyright discussion starting. So for the record, I have used the tworain, volcano, and Paul Lee's Irish_01 maps for these. Don't know whose the first two are -- they just appeared after I dumped fracxtra into my Fractint directory. Seeing these requires some of Paul Derbyshire's nuclear formulas. One of them, my tribute to Pink Floyd, is on abpf. Seriously, tho, if not using maps is OK, pls yell at me. And if the images are really bad, then I take full credit. If (unlikely) any are good, I give all the credit to the people who did the maps and wrote the formulas, and programmed Fractint. Pls don't sue me: I only own a banjo, a computer, and a lot of books. Fractal Needlework, tho, hmm. Paul, if that turns out to be the next hula-hoop, you might be able to make a fortune there :) pigs_on_the_wing { reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=nuclear.frm formulaname=Nuclear_M_kq center-mag=0.923894/0.0354238/7.751938 params=-1.2/0.1/1.5/2.25 float=y maxiter=256 inside=bof60 outside=real periodicity=0 colors=000ze0<40>zz0zz1zz3<29>zzz000<28>00w00z00z<61>y01z00z00z00<83>ze0 } Positronic_Mand { ; cheezy 3dfx reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=nuclear.frm formulaname=Nuclear_M_k_1 center-mag=+1.04301838462597800/+1.96693120534446800/89.13743 params=0.1/0.5/0.5/0.1 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 periodicity=0 colors=CCC3kT2jV2jW1iY0gZ<7>0Nk0Km0Gp<4>03x00z20x<28>x02z00z00<30>zy0zz0\ xz0<21>Hz0Gz0Fy2<19>2jW1iY0gZ<7>0Nk0Km0In0Gp<4>03x00z20x<28>x02z00z00<30\ >zy0zz0xz0<21>Hz0Gz0Fy2<16>4lS } Positronic_Mand_1 { ; er, waiter there's a bug in my soup reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=nuclear.frm formulaname=Nuclear_M_k_1 center-mag=+228.20944452941400000/-77.12127481149201000/308.4586/1/177.5 params=0.1/0.222/0.55/0.001 float=y maxiter=512 inside=bof60 periodicity=0 colors=CCC`z0<9>Hz0Gz0Fy2<19>2jW1iY0gZ<7>0Nk0Km0Gp<4>03x00z20x<28>x02z00\ z00<30>zy0zz0xz0<21>Hz0Gz0Fy2<19>2jW1iY0gZ<7>0Nk0Km0In0Gp<4>03x00z20x<28\ >x02z00z00<30>zy0zz0xz0<10>bz0 } foundations-edge { ; damn, that Asimov's a great storyteller reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pgd.frm formulaname=Nuclear_M_k_0 center-mag=0.446047/0.782981/1.344086 params=0.111/0.3/2/1.2 float=y maxiter=256 inside=bof60 periodicity=0 colors=8qI<8>2jW1iY0gZ<7>0Nk0Km0In0Gp<4>03x00z20x<28>x02z00z00<30>zy0zz0\ xz0<21>Hz0Gz0Fy2<19>2jW1iY0gZ<7>0Nk0Km0Gp<4>03x00z20x<28>x02z00z00<30>zy\ 0zz0xz0<21>Hz0Gz0Fy2<10>8qJ } Positronic_Jello { ; Lime, that is; uses Paul Lee's ; color map (or my tribute to Eire?) reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pgd.frm formulaname=Nuclear_M_k_0 center-mag=1.53659/-1.81845/0.09683531 params=0.111/0.3/2/1.2 float=y maxiter=256 inside=bof60 periodicity=0 colors=000zW0<122>OC00y0<124>0B0000<3>000 } - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:05:23 -0500 From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Use of Fractal Images At 05:41 PM 3/26/98 -0600, you wrote: >Greetings, (>I received an email today that stated the following: (Snippage in here) Recently, I have had some nibbles from two different needlework companies interested in buying my designs for sale as kits and/or pattern leaflets in the public domain. At a minimum, I feel obligated to give credit to the creator of the original image source and, at worst, realize you may wish to prohibit me from proceeding altogether. Please let me know how you feel about my use of your images to create products for sale. I realize the copywriting of fractal images is a grey area. I do not think there is any grey area in here at all. We have covered this before; personally, for personal usage I would have no objection, but as I learned from reading up on the copyright laws, even that can be considered an infringement. _For sale_ is an entirely different matter. Consider the reaction of, say, the Walt Disney company if someone were to start needleworking images of Mickey and selling them...Or likewise, the Boy Scouts, or Coca Cola, and so on...but this should be enough said. Run, do not walk, to that needlework company, and advise them of your ownership. And advise the person that this would be better settled with a three way written contract (if there is such a thing) between you, the needlework company, and her/him. davides@pipeline.com Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:10:07 -0600 (CST) From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Cosh flexball formula comment { Here's a formula and a couple of pars that apply my flexball rendering to the cosh() function. The images are different than I'd expected, and kind of pretty. Paul Carlson } frm:FlexBalls_Cosh {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; p1 = radius of center of ring (0.01 to 10) ; p2 = one half thickness of ring (0.01 to p1) ; c = pixel w = z = iter = bailout = 0 d0 = p1 + p2 d1 = 0.382683432365 * p1 d2 = 0.923879532511 * p1 dsqd = d0 * d0 + p1 * p1 - (d0 + d0) * d2 : w = cosh(w) + c ; IF ((abs(cabs(w) - p1) < p2) && iter > 0) bailout = 1 wr = real(w), wi = imag(w) awr = abs(wr), awi = abs(wi) IF (awr >= awi) dist = (awr - d2) * (awr - d2) + (awi - d1) * (awi - d1) adjust = 1 ELSE dist = (awr - d1) * (awr - d1) + (awi - d2) * (awi - d2) adjust = 0 ENDIF IF (wr >= 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 1 - adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 2 + adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi < 0) range_num = 5 - adjust ELSE range_num = 6 + adjust ENDIF ratio = sqrt(dist / dsqd) z = 29 * ratio + range_num * 30 + 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1000 } fbcoshm1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbcosh.frm formulaname=flexballs_cosh passes=t center-mag=+2.85713000000000000/+1.69139000000000000/56.9\ 9747/1/102 params=10/0/5/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>\ I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40000<13>000 cyclerange=1/240 } fbcoshm2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbcosh.frm formulaname=flexballs_cosh passes=t corners=-1.26058936059/-1.26054600908/1.8346679313/1.83510\ 76845/-1.26078483563/1.8349285646 params=10/0/5/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I\ 0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40000<13>000 cyclerange=1/240 } - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:08:01 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) Use of Fractal Images I fully agree with all of Kerry's points. A copyright is good for prohibiting any sort of use of the image, no matter what the format the image is converted to (movies, needlework, painting, etc.). A royalty from the needlework company would seem the most workable arrangement. Establishing the date of your copyright is easy and can be based on the file date of the image. Angela At 04:51 PM 3/26/98 -0700, you wrote: >Paul, > >In my opinion, you have a valid case for copyright infringment. There's >nothing gray about copyrighting fractal images. The final needlework >piece is a separate, individually-copyrightable work, but it's existance >depends on your original work. To me, that is clear. > >However, the next question is what to do now. I think that I would see if >this person is worth dealing with. If so, I would push for a business >relationship wherein you either sell them a flat license or get royalties >for the use of the image. Or, take it directly to the needlework company >and identify yourself as the copyright holder of the image, and deal with >them. In any case, you deserve to be compensated for the use of your >image, should you desire compensation. At the very least, you deserve to >have your wishes respected as to how the image is used. > >Push for compensation or demand that they stop using your work. >Kerry > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- >Kerry Mitchell >lkmitch@primenet.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- > >On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Paul N. Lee wrote: > >> My questions to all those in Fractal-Land, what would YOU do in this >> situation?? Is a needlework product of one's fractal image infringement >> of ownership rights, or is it a seperate interpreted image?? Should >> there be equitable compensation for the use of such image/s, or would >> just the acknowledgement of the originator be sufficient?? >> >> Any and all comments welcome (on or off the discussion list). >> >> Later, >> P.N.L. > > > >- >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:41:34 -0700 From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) Copyright? Quoting from the introduction to Fractint, (Fractint Homepage): "Fractint may be freely copied and distributed in unmodified form but may not be sold. (A nominal distribution fee may be charged for media and handling by freeware and shareware distributors.) Fractint may be used personally or *or in a business* - if you can do your job better by using Fractint, or *using images from it*, that's great! It may not be given away with commercial products without explicit permission from the Stone Soup Group." Asterisks mine. Does this have a bearing on the subject? Ray - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:51:08 -0800 From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Copyright? Hi, Ray! You asked: > Quoting from the introduction to Fractint, (Fractint Homepage): (snipped copyright info) >Does this have a bearing on the subject? Not really. You've missed out on the Great Copyright Debates on both the Fractint mailing list and the Fractal-Art mailing list. The bottom line is that an image is copyrighted at the time of creation, regardless of whether the artist does or does not register the image as copyrighted. All rights to use of the image are held by the creator of the image. The Stone Soup Group has very generously made Fractint available as freeware, for which we are all grateful. (Deep bow to Tim, here.) But that doesn't have any impact on whether the artist does or does not freely grant rights to his or her images that are generated in Fractint (or any other freeware program). You can probably get copies of the original debates from the archives of either mailing list if you want to wade through them. Linda - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:23:08 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) Use of Fractal Images If they were willing to share royalties...great... if not... I would not mind if they did credit me as the source. :-) - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:26:25 -0500 (EST) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) Nuclear MeltDown Redux (Pars) Thanks,gonna check em out later. >Fractal Needlework, tho, hmm. Paul, if that turns out to be the next >hula-hoop, you might be able to make a fortune there :) I made some fractal needlework once. I wrote an Amiga program to generate fractals; and later I added a feature to make a small image and then blow the pixels up to gridded squares that can be easily used as a pattern. - -- .*. Friendship, companionship, love, and having fun are the reasons for -() < life. All else; sex, money, fame, etc.; are just to get/express these. `*' Send any and all mail with attachments to the hotmail address please. Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca pgd73@hotmail.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:29:27 -500 From: "Dan Goldwater" Subject: (fractint) convert fractint <-> photoshop colormap files I wrote 2 little programs to convert between fractint .map and photoshop .act files. that way with fractint after making a huge image which is too big to load into fractint, you can still change the colormap using photoshop to a different fractint .map file. i posted the source and binaries to news:sci.fractals - --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Goldwater dgold@brown.edu http://fatmac.ee.cornell.edu/~goldwada - --------------------------------------------------------- - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:50:20 -0600 From: Felix Subject: Re: (fractint) Use of Fractal Images davides wrote: > Run, do not walk, to that needlework company, and advise them of your > ownership. Be careful here. The copyright is clearly yours, but remember that the needle pointer is both a fractal enthusiast, and consciences enough to ask Paul for permission. They even closed with: > "I feel I must defer to you as the 'owner' and accept your wishes in this matter." IOW, try not to offend or discourage someone who seems to be doing something creative and original with fractals. - -- | Andrew Duhan | Cereal is | | aduhan@ttu.edu | g00d. | | http://chimera.acs.ttu.edu/~aduhan/ | - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:55:31 -0600 From: Felix Subject: (fractint) Xfract rpms Where can I get the latest XFractint RPM? I have looked around, but have not found what I'm looking for. - -Andrew - -- | Andrew Duhan | Cereal is | | aduhan@ttu.edu | g00d. | | http://chimera.acs.ttu.edu/~aduhan/ | - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:37:49 -0800 From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) combo6 (retry) - --0__=J1jwPe5b5VY3H4vH5ilcn6q8rWDoeBoB23vySMf66Soad3m2T9Z30RYa Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII (See attached file: Nucleark.par) - --0__=J1jwPe5b5VY3H4vH5ilcn6q8rWDoeBoB23vySMf66Soad3m2T9Z30RYa Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="Nucleark.par" Content-transfer-encoding: x-uuencode begin 644 Nucleark.par M1G)O;3H)<&=D-S-`:&]T;6%I;"YC;VT@;VX@,#,O,C4O.3@@,#(Z-30@4$T- 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