From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #152 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Thursday, April 2 1998 Volume 01 : Number 152 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:07:23 -0500 From: fractalcat@juno.com (F Cat) Subject: (fractint) fractal domain names I think it was this list that had this discussion about registering fractal domain names. "As of Wednesday, April 1, InterNIC (the group that registers domain names) will be lowering its prices by 30%. Registering your domain name will now cost only $70". _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:57:49 EST From: Genealogy1 Subject: (fractint) Long calculation times... Some 3 or 4 years ago when I was using WINFRACT with Windows 3.1, I could minimize the program and continue with other computer doings. The calculations would continue. There was 1 occasion when WINFRACT took 1 week to finish an image yet I had my Computer to use for other things. The point I'm trying to make is if FRACTINT were a Windows program and you didn't mind leaving your computer turned on 24 hours a day (without monitor at times), you could see time consuming images. If you wish to leave the fractint minimized, you could bring up a 2nd copy of the program and even use it while the 1st was working. This may be another strong point for making FRACTINT a Windows program. - --Bob Carr--(Ocala, FL) - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 98 18:21:27 -0800 From: Tim Gilman Subject: (fractint) The end of DOS is on the horizon Some Humor and some questions: Humor: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,20947,00.html "Gates targets end of Windows 98" - he describes that Win98 is the last DOS-based OS Questions: 1) I'm hacking at a Macintosh port 'cause Fractint rules (and I dig Macs). Are there any "gotchas" I should know about, maybe from someone who has mucked with the X-port? For some details, I'm using the XFRACT code base until I get the Mac GUI stuff worked out (menus, mouse, keyboard, video; all working & translated into Fractint-understandable code); then I'll switch bases to the FRACTINT-base & attempt to remove & replace the DOS (& x86 ASM) specific stuff w/ appropriate Mac (& PPC ASM) code. 2) I'd poop joy if FRACTINT has robust command-line support, such that a user could pass *.par files & all the other goodies w/o actually touching the FRACTINT menus. Can someone clue me in as to how robust the command-line support is? 3) Is there Fractint-engine work going on, akin to POV-RAYs? That's it! - -=Tim Gilman, tgilman@cats.ucsc.edu Tim Gilman Rhapsody BlueBox t.gilman@apple.com Apple Computer, Inc. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 18:58:06 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) Paper and Windows Bob... I tried to say the same thing in different words some time ago. I think it is more important to bring Fractint into the multi-tasking environment than anything, especially since many of us are moving to NT. Regarding weight of paper. The paper I use for printing output from my puter (I have a very cheap HP printer) is 24 pounds. 20 lb paper is a pretty good quality paper. I think really fine stationary is about 36 lbs. That is a measure of the weight of 10 (I believe) reams of paper. A ream is more or less 500 sheets of paper. Angela At 08:57 PM 4/1/98 EST, you wrote: >Some 3 or 4 years ago when I was using WINFRACT with Windows 3.1, I could >minimize the program and continue with other computer doings. The calculations >would continue. There was 1 occasion when WINFRACT took 1 week to finish an >image yet I had my Computer to use for other things. > >The point I'm trying to make is if FRACTINT were a Windows program and you >didn't mind leaving your computer turned on 24 hours a day (without monitor at >times), you could see time consuming images. If you wish to leave the fractint >minimized, you could bring up a 2nd copy of the program and even use it while >the 1st was working. > >This may be another strong point for making FRACTINT a Windows program. > >--Bob Carr--(Ocala, FL) - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:45:27 -0600 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Missing person? Peter Jakubowicz wrote: > > BTW, w/ my new video card, Diamond Fire GL 1000 Pro, > i am only able to run Fractint at 640x480 and at > 1600x1200 disk ram mode. is running it at higher > rez hopeless. > Here's a website for all kinds of drivers for all kinds of operating systems: http://www.driverupdate.com/ P.N.L. - ------------------------------------------------- Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. - ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:51:22 -0600 (CST) From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Another variety of Newton formula comment { Here's a formula that uses the Newton's method solution of z^k - 1 = 0 in such a way that makes it easy to get a wide variety of 3D effects. The 6 pars demonstrate some of the effects possible using just k = 3. This is a good formula to experiment with. (This actually isn't a Newton's method formula since I don't check for convergence, but I do use the Newton's method equations.) To Mike Traynor: Thanks for the comments - I appreciate them. Your server is still rejecting email from Netcom. Paul Carlson } frm:Newton_3Way {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; Newton's method solution of w^k - 1 = 0 ; Always use float=y, outside=summ ; ; real(p1) = escape circle radius squared ; imag(p1) = k (exponent of w) ; p2 = relaxation factor ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; z = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 w = pixel prev_modw2 = 1.0e20 rad2 = real(p1) k = imag(p1) km1 = k - 1 num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) colors_in_range_1 = colors_in_range - 1 : w = w - p2 * ((w^k) - 1) / (k * (w^km1)) ; IF ((prev_modw2 < rad2) * (|w| > rad2)) bailout = 1 index = colors_in_range_1 * (rad2 - prev_modw2) / rad2 z = index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF prev_modw2 = |w| range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 } nwt3way1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=newt3way.par formulaname=newton_3way passes=1 center-mag=-2.22045e-016/1.38778e-016/3.205128/1/-29.998 params=1/3/2/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zqa<59>OJ7G00<63>z880M8<58>090OJ7<62>zqa000<3>000 } nwt3way2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=newt3way.par formulaname=newton_3way passes=1 center-mag=-0.00649553/0.00528143/3.770592/1/-29.998 params=1/3/1/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<\ 11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<11>R1\ 1c40<12>sP0uQ0vS0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG0000<13>000 } nwt3way3 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=newt3way.par formulaname=newton_3way passes=1 center-mag=-0.00649553/0.00528143/3.770592/1/-29.998 params=1/3/0.5/0.5/8/30 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<\ 11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<11>R1\ 1c40<12>sP0uQ0vS0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG0000<13>000 } nwt3way4 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=newt3way.par formulaname=newton_3way passes=t center-mag=0.0900214/-0.157822/0.04014196/1/150 params=1/3/2.2/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=0000C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<\ 11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<11>R1\ 1c40<12>sP0uQ0vS0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<9>0zR000<2>000 } nwt3way5 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=newt3way.par formulaname=newton_3way passes=t center-mag=-0.00649553/0.00528143/0.5748885/1/-29.996 params=0.7/3/0.3/0.3/8/30 float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<\ 11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<11>R1\ 1c40<12>sP0uQ0vS0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG0000<13>000 } nwt3way6 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1996 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=newt3way.par formulaname=newton_3way passes=t center-mag=0.0900214/-0.157822/0.04014196/1/150 params=1/3/0.5/0.5/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000U22<123>z88WRF<123>zqa000<3>000 } - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:01:00 -0600 From: Trevor Fast Subject: RE: (fractint) The end of DOS is on the the actual address is: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,20497,00.html ---------- From: fractint Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 8:34 PM To: Fractint List Subject: (fractint) The end of DOS is on the hori Some Humor and some questions: Humor: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,20947,00.html "Gates targets end of Windows 98" - he describes that Win98 is the last DOS-based OS Questions: 1) I'm hacking at a Macintosh port 'cause Fractint rules (and I dig Macs). Are there any "gotchas" I should know about, maybe from someone who has mucked with the X-port? For some details, I'm using the XFRACT code base until I get the Mac GUI stuff worked out (menus, mouse, keyboard, video; all working & translated into Fractint-understandable code); then I'll switch bases to the FRACTINT-base & attempt to remove & replace the DOS (& x86 ASM) specific stuff w/ appropriate Mac (& PPC ASM) code. 2) I'd poop joy if FRACTINT has robust command-line support, such that a user could pass *.par files & all the other goodies w/o actually touching the FRACTINT menus. Can someone clue me in as to how robust the command-line support is? 3) Is there Fractint-engine work going on, akin to POV-RAYs? That's it! -=Tim Gilman, tgilman@cats.ucsc.edu Tim Gilman Rhapsody BlueBox t.gilman@apple.com Apple Computer, Inc. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 19:32:44 -0800 From: Wizzle Subject: (fractint) Colormap Par Jay suggested I post colormaps both as a zipped file consisting of colormaps (format filename.map) and as pars. I'm not too sure of my skills with color pars. Please help me out here. This is my first set of colormaps in the par format. Let me know if they work for you. These are what I call the 1-2-3 maps.....maps with a limited number of colors which are great to clean up a busy image. If I have the methodology right, I will post the rest of the maps at my website. 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(Fractal of the Night) 1 Apr 1998 (Bwwwaaahaahahahaha!) At 04:06 PM 3/31/98 -0800, you wrote: > >F.O.T.N. (Fractal of the Night) 1 Apr 1998 (Bwwwaaahaahahahaha!) > <> I have to admit I'm a Dr. J fan and have been following his adventures since Christmas or thereabouts. My problem is that I don't get to tune in as often as I'd like. The new forward and back guides on each page are great but I typically find myself embroiled in the latest adventure then going backwards to catch up. Could there maybe be a start page for each month so I could go forward with Dr. J??? He is confusing enough!!!! Love those mad scientists!! Angela - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:54:26 -0800 (PST) From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: Re: (fractint) Paul Derbyshire's Nuclear pars Paul, Will you please send me your Nuclear "goodies" in a ZIP file, I've crashed my system twice already trying to copy/paste your megapost to a notepad text file. I tried Wordperfect too. No dice. <8-( I know this'll be a pain in the ass but I really do want them all and this is "THE" only way I'm gonna be able to get them. T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie WHOOKAM88@YAHOO.COM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 22:14:17 -0600 From: Lavondyss Subject: Re: (fractint) Copywright and common sense Paul Derbyshire wrote: > Sylvie Gallet wrote: > > Yes, I'm female. > > Suspected as much from the style of your work. Besides I've never ever > ever seen a male named Sylvie or Sylvia. Sylvain seems to be the male > version. They all come from the root Sylv meaning "of the woods"... > > Lavondyss (WTF is a lavondyss anyways? :-)) wrote: > >I thought I was right about Sylvie. Someone thought you were male. He > >could have been assuming all fractineers are male... > > Aaaaaaaaaaa! Gak! *Ptoooie*! > That word sounds too much like "engineers" for my tastes... > :-) > > >I just found a printing shop here (Kinko's Copy)... > > With a name like that, I suggest you verify with them that they don't > specialize in something other than fractals first... > > >The paper they would be using the the 20lb plain white paper. > > What the... is this company specializingin posters for weight lifters? I > haven't met a piece of paper that weighed more than 5 grams, sopping > wet, unless it was unbelievably huge (butcher-wrap rolled for half a > klick across a schoolyard being drawn on by kids, etc...) > Have you got your measuring units right? 20lb is about 40kg, or about > half the amount your computer monitor weighs! (Unless you have a really > huge one or a laptop.) > > -- Paul [Definitely not a 'geer!] > > .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not > -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a > `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------ > -- B. Mandelbrot | Paul Derbyshire (PGD) ao950@freenet.carleton.ca > ______________________ ____|_____________ pderbysh@chat.carleton.ca > Programmer & Humanist | ICQ: 10423848 | http://chat.carleton.ca/~pderbysh > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > - > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Kinko's is a cool place to print for a fair price. The paper weight is calculated in cubic feet I think. I'm not sure. Anyone know for certain. The good ones are around 30lb and up such as glossy and matted(coated) paper. 20lb is normal. I've checked them out Paul, they's cool. Lavondyss is just a name just like Michael or George or Paul. What's in a name anyways? - -Lav - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 22:14:21 -0600 From: Lavondyss Subject: (fractint) Fractal printing. Thanx for answering Damien, I thought it was an absolutely wonderful deal. I'm currently searching for a glossy poster style printing shop. I'm sure I'll have to pay an arm and a leg for them. I'm having a friend do a dye sublimation print only at 8 1/2 X 11 though. But I'd love to see it though. I hope everything works out. I'm gonna have the poster printed tomorrow. Gotta install my Spaq 1.0 Gig removeable drive to store all my fractals and MP3's. - -Lav - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:05:52 -0800 From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) Long calculation times... Bob Carr wrote: >>The point I'm trying to make is if FRACTINT were a Windows program and you didn't mind leaving your computer turned on 24 hours a day (without monitor at times), you could see time consuming images. If you wish to leave the fractint minimized, you could bring up a 2nd copy of the program and even use it while the 1st was working. This may be another strong point for making FRACTINT a Windows program.<< Not needed, you can do Fractint calculations in background now very nicely. See my Contest Construction Kit(TM) for examples of how to set up batch files to do the whole contest, ~150 images, in background. Jay http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/ - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:18:09 -0800 From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) Colormap Par wizzle wrote >>Jay suggested I post colormaps both as a zipped file consisting of colormaps (format filename.map) and as pars. I'm not too sure of my skills with color pars. Please help me out here. << I checked a few, looks good. Jay - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:26:58 -0800 From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) F.O.T.N. (Fractal of the Night) 1 Apr 1998 (Bwwwaaahaahahahaha!) wizzle wrote > Could there maybe be a start page for each > month so I could go forward with Dr. J??? He is confusing enough!!!! > Love those mad scientists!! Thanks There is an up arrow going to the index. I usually post a link to the latest and to the index. http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotNindx.html Jay - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:29:46 -1000 From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Long calculation times... On 1 Apr 98 at 20:57, Genealogy1 wrote: > The point I'm trying to make is if FRACTINT were a Windows program and you > didn't mind leaving your computer turned on 24 hours a day (without monitor at > times), you could see time consuming images. If you wish to leave the fractint > minimized, you could bring up a 2nd copy of the program and even use it while > the 1st was working. > > This may be another strong point for making FRACTINT a Windows program. Not needed. I can already do that with DOS Fractint under OS/2. You should be able to do the same thing under NT. I don't know about W95. Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:06:49 -0500 From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: Re: (fractint) Long calculation times... You can do it, but you hafta save all your images in disk-vid, which can really be a pain, especially if you have a bunch you want done at once. I like to do mine in disk-vid while I'm working, but at night, I'd rather have regular video so I can see the progress, since I wouldn't bee using it for anything else. Problem is, fractint wont let you change that during a batch run, it'll render it in the mode it was last saved in. Pete /* begin reply Not needed. I can already do that with DOS Fractint under OS/2. You should be able to do the same thing under NT. I don't know about W95. end reply */ - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 03:02:18 -0500 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) Missing person? >> Obviously the first is a shortcut key, the second an arbitrary name = >> string, and the 4f02, 11C, 1600, 1200, and 256 have obvious = >> correspondences to the vesa2cfg output. Right. >> But where the bleeding hell do you get the two zeros, the 28, and >> "OK:=3D" from? With that additional information anyone can fix up >> their fractint.cfg... All the fractint.cfg have these two zeros. For the 28, read the fracti= nt doc. "OK:=3D" is a comment. >> > I can email vesa2cfg.zip to anyone interested, just ask. >> >> Even better would be to simply post the URL... Vesa2cfg is provided by Oliver Fromme, the author of the DOS viewer QPV= , with his shareware but it is not available separately. The small zip fil= e (9K) just includes the executable and the doc. - Sylvie - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 01:42:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jiho Kim Subject: (fractint) Arbitrary Precision ^(-1) To those who know the workings of Fractint, I'm aware that there is a limit to zoom in in Fractint, although practically unreachable. 1600 digits, right? Well, is there such a provision made for zooming out? I mean, can you have a windows that has one corner at [10^1500 + 10^1500 i] and the opposite one at the origin? Wave2 { ; Public Domain ; By Jiho Kim on April 1, 1998 ; kimjd@plu.edu reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=log passes=1 center-mag=0/0/3.05176e-005/1.333333/90 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=2147483647 bailout=6 bailoutest=real inside=maxiter potential=255/255/0 colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eee0eee00L00z0eL0eze0Le0zeeLeez0L00Le0z00zeeL0eL\ eez0eze0LL0Lz0zL0zzeLLeLzezLezzL00L0eLe0Leez00z0eze0zeeL0LL0zLeLLezz0Lz0\ zzeLzezLL0LLeLz0LzezL0zLezz0zzeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzzazz<9>izzjzzkzzkz\ zlyzlyy<5>pxxpwxqwxrvxrvw<2>tuwttvutvusuvsu<2>vpswpsworworxnq<4>zlozknzj\ mzilzik<2>zgjzfizehzdgzdg<12>yUYxUXxTWwSVwSV<13>qHKpGJpFIpFIoEHnEG<7>jAC\ i9Bh8Ag79f79<3>d57c57b46a46a35<3>Y23X23W13V13U12<4>Q01Q00P00P00O00<4>L00\ K00J10I10I10<3>E10E10D10D10C21<10>664564575575<7>1B91CA1DA1EB1EC<2>1GD1H\ E1IF1JG1JG<12>0TQ } (Sorry about the long color, but I wasn't sure if you'll see the same thing I see if I erased it.) This is the par of the fractal with which I wanted to zoom out more than Fractint would let me. The limit is 2^15 and I suppose that's natural, but, can it be extended to 2^(arbitrarily large number)? I was wondering about the possibility of self-similiarity out into infinity. Can one zoom out forever and find similarities to the original? Does it exist? (I'm not sure if I've found one, since I can't zoom out anymore and my fractal math is atrociously primative.) I've never heard of it even considered, probably because the Mandelbrot set is limited to a certain distance from the origin and the its self-similiarities tend to the infinitisimal. I'm not sure if there has been any research done into these types of fractals (if they really exist). But, I can't think of any reason why there couldn't be such fractals. If this is a path that has already been trod, please excuse my ignorance, but if it's a new idea, what does everyone think? I'm not even close to being qualified to comment on the programming side of this issue, so would appreciate any feedback on the possibility of extending the range of Fractint's zooming capabilities. Regards, Jiho Kim ========================= kimjd@plu.edu http://www.plu.edu/~kimjd - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 01:49:05 -0800 From: kathy roth Subject: re: (fractint) Paul Derbyshire's nuclear pars James R Mackenzie wrote: > I've crashed my system twice already trying to >copy/paste your megapost to a notepad text file. >I tried Wordperfect too. No dice. <8-( Try downloading Programmer's File Editor- it's free, simple to use, works great. I think this is the URL http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/ - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 05:45:07 -0500 From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Copywright and common sense At 04:26 PM 4/1/98 PST, you wrote: Greetings: >With a name like that, I suggest you verify with them that they don't >specialize in something other than fractals first... Kinko's is an all purpose copy shop, specializing in nothing. This is not to say what they would do re: fractal poster would not be acceptable. >What the... is this company specializingin posters for weight lifters? 20lb bond is the standard for normal usage paper. Wizzle mentions 22lb and 36lb; 24lb is usually considered the finer paper in different types, such as vellum, text, linen, laid, etc. The "pound" is the weight of the paper per unit measurement which depends on precut size, kind, qty. A ream is 500 sheets. It is possible to obtain, e.g.: a case of 23 x 35 60lb offset vellum which weighs less than a case of 50lb 23 x 35 50lb text (of sorts), or, better example, a case of 1200 sheets of 23 x 35 70 felt text weighing less than a case 750 sheets of 23 x 35 65lb felt cover stock. BTW, in spare time I run a printing press.... :) Sorry for off topic.. davides@pipeline.com Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:55:03 -0500 From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) March '98 par collection Les St. Clair wrote: >> Wow! what a bumper par month! >> I have just place the collected pars for March on my fractal web site at: >> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ Les, Thank you very much for collecting these and making them available on your web site. It is much appreciated! Nick - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:30:28 -0500 From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: (fractint) Paper weights Paul Derbyshire wrote: >>> What the... is this company specializingin posters for weight lifters? I haven't met a piece of paper that weighed more than 5 grams, sopping wet, unless it was unbelievably huge (butcher-wrap rolled for half a klick across a schoolyard being drawn on by kids, etc...) Have you got your measuring units right? 20lb is about 40kg, or about half the amount your computer monitor weighs! (Unless you have a really huge one or a laptop.) <<< See the following URL for an explanation of the rather confusing subject of paper weights: Also, Kinko's is a large, well known chain here in the U.S. Nick nick.grasso@hrads.com - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:34:51 -0600 From: Felix Subject: Re: (fractint) Missing person? Peter Jakubowicz wrote: > ... w/ my new video card, Diamond Fire GL 1000 Pro, i am only able to run > Fractint at 640x480 and at 1600x1200 disk ram mode. Peter- Please post if you have success with the various VESA solutions from this list. I am about to buy the same card and would like to know of any VESA difficulties before purchasing. (It should work just fine, but the idea of fractint in 640x480 is frightening...)thanks -Andrew - -- | Andrew Duhan | Cereal is g00d | | aduhan@ttu.edu | ICQ 10363110 | | http://chimera.acs.ttu.edu/~aduhan/ | - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #152 ******************************