From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #294 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Thursday, September 10 1998 Volume 01 : Number 294 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:35:16 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S Ken, - Actually, it wasn't clear to me if what was downloadable was going to be - a mirror of the contest pages, or par files so that people could generate - the images themselves, or both. Both, ultimately. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:44:16 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re; contest web site Gedeon, - There is no reference here to images being disqualified on account of - their appearing on home pages *after* submission but before the voting - is concluded. Only if you ignore the context of the rest of the rules. :) The reason for not revealing the names of the artists is to prevent voting based on artist reputation. Posting contest images to your web site defeats this stated intent. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:40:42 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Re: [fractal-art] Contest Web Site Linda, - Best Portrayal of an Emotion: I'm not certain what "emotion" is - represented by some of the fractals. Is there more info on these - somewhere, or was that info just left out by the contestants? Some contestants did not elaborate on which emotion they were portraying. In some cases we caught this during the submission process and asked for clarification; it didn't always arrive. I did the best I could with the information I had. - Also, the voting: I agree that the comments from the viewers will be - one of the advantages of the contest. But I'm really sorry that we will - only comment on those images that we vote for. If you (or anyone else) have got further comments that you would like forwarded to the artists, please send it to comments@fractalus.com. I'll adjust the web site to reflect this. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 17:35:43 -0400 From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S At 11:25 AM 9/9/1998 -0500, Damien wrote: (snipped) {Suppose after the 19th, we allow those who wish to to display their contest images, yet extend the voting another week or two? Does anyone have some thoughts on this, pro or con?} Personally I do not see the problem in this. The above seems reasonable and sane to me - it is not as if there were half a trillion rubles riding on this. davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 17:49:57 -0400 From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Re; contest web site At 01:44 PM 9/9/1998 -0500, Damien wrote: >Only if you ignore the context of the rest of the rules. :) The reason for >not revealing the names of the artists is to prevent voting based on artist >reputation. Posting contest images to your web site defeats this stated >intent. (Should have put this with my first post a few minutes ago) I imagine everyone here is honorable enough to _not_ visit web sites where contest images are placed until after having voted. Is that not sufficient? davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:02:30 -0700 From: "Lee Newsted" Subject: [none] Hi, This is Nuke. I'm On-line now so ... so.. There! Ha! And just in time to vote on Contest 98! - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:01:18 EDT From: BillatNY@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S Just wanted to add my voice to those thanking Damien et al for all their hard work on the contest. Damien, you've got incredible patience! And Thank You Sharon for the beautiful awards. They'll look great on my mantlepiece :) Bill - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:31:32 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Contest Good evening folks, My apologies for spamming these lists yet again, but I wanted to let people know that the first downloadable forms of the contest are available: http://www.fractalus.com/contest98/download.htm The PAR-kits are not ready yet, so if that's what you're looking for, you'll have to wait an extra day. Still, if all you'd like to do is download the entire web site, you can now do that in big chunks, instead of one file at a time. Please note: the complete contest web site will consume 40M of hard drive space. Downloading it is not for the faint of heart (or tight of space). :) Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:05:07 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) Contest Software For those that might be interested.... The DataBase of all Contest Entries that I was keeping to assist Damien had some interesting statistics, one of which is the software used for all of the images. Here is a list based upon the supplied information: Software Count - ------------ --------- ? ? 17 Dllirium Tremor .000001 beta 3 Dust Fractals 3 Flarium 3 Flarium 24 4 Flarium 24 with Painter 5 2 Flarium or TieraZon with Photoshop 1 Fractal (custom Visual Basic program) 1 Fractal Domains 6 Fractal eXtreme 1 Fractal eXtreme 1.21 6 FractInt 3 FractInt 17.2 with PhotoShop 5.0 1 FractInt 17.3 1 FractInt 19.2 1 FractInt 19.3 6 FractInt 19.5 2 FractInt 19.6 116 FractInt 19.6 with Bryce 2.0 1 FractInt 19.6 with Paint Shop Pro 2 FractInt 19.6 with Picture Publisher & MS-Paint 1 FractInt 19.6 with some graphic editor 1 FractInt with custom software 1 GrafZViZion 1.8 1 GrafZViZion 2.3 1 Inkblot Kaos with Photoshop 4.0 LE 1 Iterations 28 or 29 1 Kai's Power Tools - Fractal Explorer 4 MathArt 3 own code, written in C 1 own Liapunov program 1 own program 3 own software 3 P.O.V. 2 1 POV-Ray 3.0 2 QuickBASIC 4.5 2 TieraZon 9 TieraZon 1.0 1 TieraZon 1.0 (overlayed images) 2 TieraZon 2 or 2.05 1 TieraZon 2.05 19 TieraZon 2.05 with Photoshop 4.0 LE 1 TieraZon 2.05 with Picture Publisher 2 TieraZon 2.06 2 TieraZon with Photoshop 4.0 LE 1 Truemand 3.0 beta 3 Ultra Fractal 2 3 Ultra Fractal 2.0 3 Ultra Fractal 2.06 5 VistaPro with MS-Paint 1 WinFract 18.21 5 Xaos 3.1 beta 3 P.N.L. - ------------------------------------------------- Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. - ------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 17:22:44 -0700 From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) Re: Awards? I must have missed something. Several mentions have been made about the "...beautiful awards, made by Sharon..." I don't remember seeing any mentions of this in any of the postings. Would somebody be good enough to enlighten me? Thanks. Ray - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:07:39 -0400 (EDT) From: aq936@freenet.carleton.ca (Michael Traynor) Subject: Re: (fractint) Re; contest web site Damien writes: > >Gedeon, > > - There is no reference here to images being disqualified on account of > - their appearing on home pages *after* submission but before the voting > - is concluded. > >Only if you ignore the context of the rest of the rules. :) The reason for >not revealing the names of the artists is to prevent voting based on artist >reputation. Posting contest images to your web site defeats this stated >intent. I consider this an unseemly suspicion. The implication is, for instance that the voting in the fractint contest was biased as the names of the submitters (I'd say artists, but I submitted some for that contest so that rules out use of the terms for all) were known. Do you believe that this was so? - -- Mike Traynor People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like. Abraham Lincoln - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:53:42 -0700 From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S Damien M. Jones wrote: > > Thank you for suggesting a compromise. (You were suggesting one, > weren't > you? :) The problem is that people want to be able to display their > images, perhaps even have committed to being able to display them. > Suppose > after the 19th, we allow those who wish to to display their contest > images, > yet extend the voting another week or two? Does anyone have some > thoughts > on this, pro or con? > > Damien M. Jones \\ > dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: Damien.... I am strongly in favor of extending the voting period and letting folks post their images on their websites after the 19th as you suggested. I could not discern any problems, i.e. there were no complaints, during the last contest when we posted our contest entries during the voting. Angela aka wizzle - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:59:03 EDT From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest ust curious-wouldn't it be better to wait for downloading until the corrections have been put in place or do the d/l files have the corrected titles... renrad - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:55:44 -0500 (CDT) From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Having taken a three month vacation from making fractals, I did not enter the contest this year. Am I still eligible to vote? Paul Carlson - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:43:03 -0700 From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Posting sans spaces I am re-posting the pars I did a few days ago that had a bad case of the dreaded spaces. Despite all of the suggestions made (which I implemented) by you all, I was still getting spaces. I downloaded and installed a copy of Communicator 4.06 tonight, and I think that did the trick! Please let me know.......I tried several tests prior to posting here (sent posts to myself at both my ISP's)......everything looked good to me so I suspect that Communicator 4.01 had a prob. Thanks for your patience Angela aka wizzle indigo_whirl { ; (c) A Wilczynski Sep 06, 1998 t= 0:06:08.39 on 266 PII ; concentric circle formula by kerry m reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=general_jul-2lines center-mag=0.0667318/0.910258/14.0894/0.6996/83.7/2.862 params=-0.74543/2/1/0/1/1.5 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=mn0<10>050<15>0zz<15>00A<14>I0aK0cJ0a<14>000<15>`GscHwcHu<15>U2PT\ 1MU0K<15>wwc<15>N4CK0AK0C<11>nkIqoItsJwwKutK<15>G3FH4C<9>w0G<10>U0G000R0\ G<3>F0F<15>U0w<15>F0F<15>zz0vv0qr0 cyclerange=0/255 } dancing_stars { ; (c) A Wilczynski Sep 06, 1998 t= 0:01:05.42 on 266 PII ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=general_man-c&l center-mag=-0.70384556844703490/-0.47280015184157200/86.97495/1.0831/172\ .5 params=1/1/2/0/1/1 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=000MAB<9>wK0<9>A55<7>UAA<9>20A<14>`Fw<6>94R53M34H16C077355633A00<\ 11>e00<6>ww0<5>h80e00a00<7>700000000000<2>00A<8>0oz<8>00A00000000093F<10\ >w4R<8>C0270000000000000F<4>0J80M62P9<9>Uvc<9>3L80H40E50A6077255433700<8\ >R00U00V27<5>_Do`Fw_CnY9a<6>N02J03H03F04H46<10>wwU<9>61D<2>214000104<2>4\ 1G44G77F<2>I9C cyclerange=0/255 } neon_ballet { ; (c) A Wilczynski Sep 06, 1998 t= 0:02:10.02 on 266 PII ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=cenx=ceny_jul center-mag=0.224551/0.532375/4.723355/1/-20 params=0/-0.74543/0.1/0/0.98/1.02 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=`0Y<11>000<23>000111333<29>zzz<30>222000000<23>000000200<14>Z0AU0\ 0<6>m00<7>T0m<4>F0F<2>000<36>mmmoooooo<3>ttt<4>0000660CC0II<10>0zz<6>N_w\ RWvTUv<12>r0m<4>c0` cyclerange=0/255 } ruby_web { ; (c) A Wilczynski Sep 06, 1998 t= 0:00:49.93 on 266 PII ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=cenx=ceny_jul center-mag=0.00155574/-0.00595304/0.8589376/1/-20 params=0/-0.74543/0.1/0/1.1/1.02 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=00C<12>00z<12>008<35>000708<13>p0w<12>A0B70860A<2>20H00K03M<11>0c\ m<4>00K<10>J02L00O00<12>z00<2>p00l00h00d00a00<9>000420000840<13>zX0<15>0\ 00<15>ut0<15>000GA4<12>2v10z00v0<14>000004008 cyclerange=0/255 } neon_dancer2 { ; (c) A Wilczynski Sep 06, 1998 t= 0:00:24.78 on 266 PII ; kerry mitchel formula new map - b_neon1.map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=offset_rx=ry_jul center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=0.5/0.333/1/0/1.5/0.1 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=fXH<8>xzc<13>KA0000<47>000330<17>000<6>zz0<9>zzc<7>UA0<18>z0c<16>\ 00A000<29>000000002<2>00A<19>0zz<11>6A0<7>1wU<15>0A03C2992<2>UA0<5>dTF cyclerange=0/255 } - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 22:44:48 -0400 From: "Phil DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: (fractint) Posting sans spaces >I am re-posting the pars I did a few days ago that had a bad case of the dreaded >spaces. Despite all of the suggestions made (which I implemented) by you all, I was >still getting spaces. I downloaded and installed a copy of Communicator 4.06 >tonight, and I think that did the trick! Please let me know.......I tried several >tests prior to posting here (sent posts to myself at both my ISP's)......everything >looked good to me so I suspect that Communicator 4.01 had a prob. > Angela, This last post was perfect. Methinks you've solved the problem. Phil D. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 22:45:57 EDT From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: (fractint) contest corrections (i am resending this because it seems to not be getting through the mails) just curious-wouldn't it be better to wait for downloading until the corrections have been put in place or do the d/l files have the corrected titles...? - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 22:49:24 -0400 From: Paul DeCelle Subject: (fractint) Contest Outstanding work on the contest site! I've spent over three hours looking at all of the great submissions, taking notes and changing my mind literally dozens of times. Good thing we have a couple weeks to vote... I'll be revisiting tomorrow at work (Thank God for T1 connections ;-) You really DO have to view the full-size images to fully appreciate them. BTW & FWIW, I do plan to post my entries on my web page, but not until after voting has ended.. Good night, all Paul - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:33:21 +0200 From: Joe Pearson Subject: RE: (fractint) Contest Web Site >Joe Pearson wrote: >> One question: in the quotes category, are there quotes for each one? >> Otherwise how do we vote for the best interpretation? >> Joe > >Click on each one to see the full-size image AND the quote. >Janet OK, I am obviously a complete no-hoper and not qualified to vote - I was sure I'd viewed at least one of this category full size. From here it is *very* slow to get hold of the images, even with the 640x480x256 limit. I shall be checking out the 40MB download ... after I've cleared some disk space. I think it will be important to view all images in a category fairly quickly - I suppose I'll narrow my choice down to 3-5 of them and then need to look at them again, and again. Joe - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:03:03 -0400 From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Posting sans spaces At 07:43 PM 9/9/1998 -0700, you wrote: >I am re-posting the pars (snipped) These came out just fine. davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:33:31 +1000 From: "Regina & Steve" Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S > > {Suppose after the 19th, we allow those who wish to to display their >contest images, yet extend the voting another week or two? Does anyone >have some thoughts on this, pro or con?} If we allowed that then there would be people who would wait to find out who did the image before voting and that would defeat the purpose of anonymity in the first place. >(Should have put this with my first post a few minutes ago) I imagine >everyone here is honorable enough to _not_ visit web sites where contest >images are placed until after having voted. Is that not sufficient? NO - curiosity doesn't only kill the cat.....besides, how do we know which sites not to visit? Only those worried that their image wont win without someone knowing they did it need display it (no offense to Maria Kjaergaard, your copyright shows already- haven't looked at all pics thou), a simple note saying they have a new image to be released on such-and-such date should leave viewers panting to come back when the pic is available(but not including the picture name). (sorry not sure when competition is decided) There is plenty of time to show off.... stick with it.... besides, wont it look better on your site if someone new who views your pic sees the prize attached to it, (they don't always come back)? regards, regina - - Looking into a fractal is like looking into the soul. - - the deeper you look, the more complex the structure - - We sleep 1/3 of our lives. Choose wisely. sleepysams@sea.com - the sea is just a bigpond - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:13:18 +0100 From: Dave Subject: RE: (fractint) Contest Web S > >With the number of fractal programs that generate true color images, > >plus the ability to post process fractint images, limiting to 256 > colors > >would be quite ludicrous, IMO. > > What programs are you talking about? It seems Fractint's preferential > treatment of outdated hardware limits most users I've ever asked about > this > subject to 256 colors, including me. Winfract is no better, limiting > all > images to a max of 256. > Yeah - I've got to agree with this, since I'm still trying to figure out how to get more colours for my card. I've tried other programs, (such as FractalExtreme) which offer better control over resolution and number of colours, but I still like the simplicity of fractint, and keep returning to it. If I can get past the problem with video modes, I'm sailing!! Somebody, someone, out there, has got to know something about these ax, bx, cx, dx values for video modes. Any takers? - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:20:11 +0100 From: Dave Subject: RE: (fractint) Contest Web S > Dave, > > - It does seem that someone viewing one page full of thumbs are going > to > - view those that appear interesting at that size... > [snipped] > - Is it possible to agree on a format for entry submission? eg: all > images > - must be 640x480, max of 256 colours etc? > > Um, did you visit the contest web site? The rules very much set down > a > particular size for submissions (although a few people submitted > larger > images anyway, and I didn't catch all of them before putting up the > contest > site). Er... no!! I haven't actually - not yet, anyway, but I'll admit I've been slightly scared off after I visited some web pages that have been mentioned in the circulars, only to find myself downloading one page full of large images (7 or so) and following the comments about "a matter of deciding which audience I want to please most....the one with limited time or patience or my Fractint collegues. ", I decided that, given the amount of surfin' I do and how easily I (and others) click away from a page that takes ages to download - I fitted into the first category, and have shyed away from pages containing fractals until I find out a bit more than the pages. Guess this is just prejudice on my part, but I'm waiting until the weekend when call costs are cheaper and I'm at home (rather than work) to view some of the competition entries. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:43:39 -0400 (EDT) From: aq936@freenet.carleton.ca (Michael Traynor) Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S regina writes: > > >> >> {Suppose after the 19th, we allow those who wish to to display their >>contest images, yet extend the voting another week or two? Does anyone >>have some thoughts on this, pro or con?} > > >If we allowed that then there would be people who would wait to find out who >did the image before voting and that would defeat the purpose of anonymity >in the first place. Are you confessing or accusing? Please be specific either way. >Only those worried that their image wont win without someone knowing they >did it need display it This is entirely unworthy. In the one case where someone definitely wants to display images that were submitted, it is because there was a pre-existing commitment. I could well see someone who used a fractal generator that is not so widely used as fractint wanting to display a large format version of their image (I certainly will be using the fractint pars made available to generate images at large sizes since many images loose a lot in smaller versions) and would not view this as being in any way improper. It does not make sense to have what is essentially a practical compromise on size (to make a practical contest web site) determine an important parameter for a work. - -- Mike Traynor People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like. Abraham Lincoln - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:15:52 -0400 From: Diosnel Herrnsdorf Subject: Re: (fractint) Posting sans spaces Angela Wilczynski wrote: > I am re-posting the pars I did a few days ago that had a bad case of the dreaded > spaces. Dear Angela: There were no spaces this time. Regards, Diosnel - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:32:42 EDT From: JimBeau549@aol.com Subject: (fractint) 10 pars (Gallet-6-04&6-08)...in the meantime. Well, ...it's raining here on the coast of Texas and todays forecast promises more of the same,.....GREAT weather for fractaling if ya ask me! :) Enjoy the pics~ Jim ps ~ .......ummm.....I forgot what I was gonna say now! :( *************************************************************** Koyaanisqatsi { ; image(c)JimWeaver1998 (Gallet-6-08 formula) t=1 min+/- reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=acos/cosxx/sinh passes=b center-mag=-1.10929/-1.10929/0.1187624/1/44.999 params=2.5/0.5/0/1.5/1/2.5 float=y maxiter=255 potential=255/255/0 periodicity=0 colors=00063A<15>MEaNEbOFdPFeQGg<4>VOiXQjWPj<3>SJiRHhQGf<23>212000101<4>\ 748000704B7C<2>F9HHAIIBJJCKKDL<8>WOUXPVYPWXRXZRX<13>EBJDAHC9GB8E97C<4>42\ 4212212<7>212212000101321<17>UJDWKEYLFZMG`NIaPJ<6>lZV<20>000<25>QKHRLISM\ JUNKWOLXQM<2>bTQcVReWSfXUfYV<3>hbbhcdhbc<2>h_ZhZXgYVfXT<24>0111233144265\ 38 } Wall_of_Windows { ; image(c)JimWeaver1998 (Gallet-6-08 formula) t=1 min+/- reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=acos/cosh/sin passes=b center-mag=3.96579/3.96579/0.09332995/1/44.999 params=2.5/0.5/0/1.5/1/2.5 float=y maxiter=255 potential=255/255/0 periodicity=0 colors=00063A<15>MEaNEbOFdPFeQGg<4>VOiXQjWPj<3>SJiRHhQGf<23>212000101<4>\ 748000704B7C<2>F9HHAIIBJJCKKDL<8>WOUXPVYPWXRXZRX<13>EBJDAHC9GB8E97C<4>42\ 4212212<7>212212000101321<17>UJDWKEYLFZMG`NIaPJ<6>lZV<20>000<25>QKHRLISM\ JUNKWOLXQM<2>bTQcVReWSfXUfYV<3>hbbhcdhbc<2>h_ZhZXgYVfXT<24>0111233144265\ 38 } Basket_Case { ; 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