From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #301 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Monday, September 21 1998 Volume 01 : Number 301 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:19:31 -0500 From: DeBow Freed II PhD Subject: (fractint) Ian Kaplan's Suggestion that List-Posted Images be CD-Archived and Made Available Fellow Fractaliers- Here's my "thought" (worth $0.02) re Ian Kaplan's suggestion (in Digest #300) to monthly write the list-posted pars (and perhaps the uncopyrighted Contest images as well) to CD-ROM in some agreed-upon format, and to make them available to list Subscribers at a nominal fee: an unqualified "YES!!". Not only would it save us all a lot of repetitive effort (as we all obviously go through the same or similar process of setting up our hard drives and - daily, weekly or monthly - archive most or all of the files), but it would also provide a permanent archive of the end product, rather than "something-which-will-produce-the-ACTUAL-IMAGE- with-just-a-little-more-work". After all, this list is about images, as well as how they are generated. A CD archive will make the images themselves more acessible, and I think, would be a welcome addition. DeBow Freed PhD - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:50:52 -0700 From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Diff_Delt1 Pars Mitch Berger wrote: > > As a newbie I am almost afraid to ask this question. How does one utilize > the pars you sent? How/where do I copy them on to my hard disk? In a > separate folder from Fractint? > > Is there a tutorial on the net for NEWBIES? I have been generating fractals > using Fractiint 19.6, and WinFract18.21along with some maps from FractXtra. > I'd loike to move on. > > Thanks, > Mitch > Mitch...your's is not an uncommon question...no prob.... In addition to Linda's great tutorials, I've archived some of the answers from this list at http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/graphic_hints.htm If you hang around a bit, Janet Preslar posts a very complete list of useful links on a regular basis. Welcome to the list!! Angela - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:19:43 -0400 (EDT) From: robert@apexwood.com (Robert Hailman) Subject: Re: (fractint) FractInt's crashing That wouldn't make a difference... dos mode is still win 95, just at a command prompt. and win95 (original release) doesn't support FAT32 and wouldn't let you format it. I have been using FAT-32 for years with no problems. >When you reformatted your hard disk did you convert it to another file >system, say FAT-32? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Joel Iwashige >To: >Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 2:06 PM >Subject: (fractint) FractInt's crashing > > >>Hi, >> >>Would someone on this list be willing to help a lurker with a problem? >> >>I'm running Fractint under Win95 in a 1024x768x256 background video mode, >>batch-generating fractals from Les St. Clair's collection of pars (through >>May 1998). This has been successful (I have 1277 GIFs, using 344 MB) until >>just recently, when I got a message that it's performing an illegal >>operation. When I tried DOS mode, Fractint just freezes. When I manually >>load the params that Fractint is crashing on, they work fine. >> >>I just completed a reformat and reinstall of Win95, so the installation >>should be clean. >> >>Any help that you could give me would be welcome. >> >>Thanks! >> >>Joel Iwashige >>"Hit any key to continue." Where's the 'any' key? >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------- >>Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >>Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >>Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >>Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >>Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > >Attachment Converted: C:\ROBERT\ROBEMAIL\smime5.p7s > Robert Hailman robert@apexwood.com - ----- Free education: A oxymoron created by the socialist bastards in the government. YOU CAN'T DENY IT! THE SOCIALISTS RUN THIS PLACE!!!! If you don't believe me, just examine the canadian political scene. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:44:43 -0400 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Millennium G200 Hi All, A quick note for everyone interested: I just got my new system with the= Millennium G200 and Win95 OSR 2.5, and both Fractint and QPV work fine at= 1600x1200. Cheers, - Sylvie - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail: Sylvie_Gallet@CompuServe.com Home page (last update: 9/15/98) http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet/homepage.htm - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 19:53:25 -0700 From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) future events I think the contest was great, really fun & encouraged creativity and competition in a good way. It took way too much energy to do more than once or twice a year- at least a contest like this where people choose the best of their work with few restrictions. Also, people more or less stopped posting pars to the list or commenting on them for >2 months. (Maybe this was because it was summer.) I really liked trying to guess who made which set of fractals- how about a smaller event where you try to guess who made an image? Jack Valero did something like this on his web page a few months ago. Or how about a kind of showcase, like here's part of a formula and you do different coloring methods. Maybe use the formula from last year's contest and do different coloring methods based on it. I don't think enough people write new coloring methods that I'd really want to vote on it, but it would be really nice to see what they would come up with. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:04:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Kivryn Subject: (fractint) Video Cards Hi gang, I am looking to buy a new video card to replace the one in my Packard Bell 680. I seem to remember there was a long discussion about video cards on the list a long time back, but can't remember what the consensus was about certain cards. I remember that some of them didn't allow FractInt to run properly. Is anyone running a Diamond Stealth 2 S220 4meg video card successfully with FractInt and other fractal generators? Do any of you have trouble with this card? Any input would be appreciated. Suggestions for other cards are welcome, too. Thanks. Debora _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:18:49 +0100 From: "Frank Chambers" Subject: (fractint) z=z^z+m On p. 99 of Pickover's "Computers, Patterns, Chaos and Beauty", fig 8.4 is said to be a trace of z = z^z + m with biomorph. I have had no success in duplicating it. Can anyone put me out of my misery by posting cookbook instructions for Fractint? Frank Chambers in Ireland - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Sep 98 15:02:44 BST From: John W. Evans Subject: Re: (fractint) Video Cards on 19 Sep 98, fractint@lists.xmission.com wrote... >Hi gang, > >I am looking to buy a new video card to replace the one in my Packard >Bell 680. snipped >Debora I've had no problems with the Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 Pro which I think was the predecessor of the one you're thinking of getting. John Evans - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 07:47:08 -0700 From: Judy Subject: Re: (fractint) z=z^z+m That is an incredible example and I'd love to get that information too! Although I've located a couple "biomorphs", I've never been able to find anything close to resembling that particular one. (And I've been looking!) Please keep me in mind if you ever find something similar. Judy Frank Chambers wrote: > > On p. 99 of Pickover's "Computers, Patterns, Chaos and Beauty", fig 8.4 is > said to be a trace of z = z^z + m with biomorph. > I have had no success in duplicating it. Can anyone put me out of my > misery by posting cookbook instructions for Fractint? > Frank Chambers in Ireland > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:44:51 -0400 From: Don Archer Subject: Re: (fractint) Video Cards Debora, >Is anyone running a Diamond Stealth 2 >S220 4meg video card successfully with FractInt and other fractal >generators? Do any of you have trouble with this card? I have a Diamond Stealth 64 4megs that runs Fractint at 1600 x 1200 impeccably on a P166 system. Don - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:57:13 -0500 From: Janet Preslar Subject: (fractint) Video Card List Maybe someone could compile a list of which video cards do and do not work with FractInt. This topic comes up regularly and I'm sure Noel would be happy to post such a list on the FractInt site. For instance: I have a Diamond Fire GL 1000 Pro with 8M memory and a Permedia 2 controller running on a 333/PII that absolutely *does not* work with FractInt. It is not VESA compatible and nothing from Diamond or any other source could provide a fix. It is a great card, but don't get it if you want to run FractInt. Janet - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:54:47 -0000 From: "Dean-Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Video Cards John Evans wrote: >I've had no problems with the Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 Pro which I >think was the predecessor of the one you're thinking of getting. The Stealth 3D series is nothing like the Stealth II. Christian - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:20:23 -0700 (MST) From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) z=z^z+m It's not exactly what Cliff did, but it's close. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com www.primenet.com/~lkmitch/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- zzmu-biomorph { ; Kerry Mitchell 22sep98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=zzmu-julia-bio passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.5/1/-90 params=0.367879441/0/200/0.1 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=000zzz<253>zzz cyclerange=0/255 } frm:zzmu-julia-bio { ; Kerry Mitchell 22sep98 ; ; p1 = mu = julia parameter ; real(p2) = bailout ; imag(p2) = coloring speed ; z=pixel, mu=p1, r=real(p2), r2=|r| iter=1, scale=imag(p2), done=0: iter=iter+1, z=z^z+mu if(|z|>r2) t=scale*iter if(cabs(real(z)) Subject: Re: (fractint) Video Cards On Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:44:51 -0400, fractint@lists.xmission.com wrote... >Debora, > >>Is anyone running a Diamond Stealth 2 >>S220 4meg video card successfully with FractInt and other fractal >>generators? Do any of you have trouble with this card? > >I have a Diamond Stealth 64 4megs that runs Fractint at 1600 x 1200 >impeccably on a P166 system. > >Don > I had a Diamond Stealth 2 8MB AGP that ran just fine. What's all the hub-bub about video cards not working right with Fractint? If you get your BIOS fixed, there shouldn't be a problem. I just exchanged it for an STB 16MB AGP and will be trying it out too. I want to play some 3D games ^_^. I just updated the BIOS on this new card as well. There are still some bugs in it though. But STB is working on fixes. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:41:42 +1000 From: "Regina & Steve" Subject: Re: (fractint) Ian Kaplan's Suggestion that List-Posted Images be CD-Archived and Made Available Subject: (fractint) Ian Kaplan's Suggestion that List-Posted Images be CD-Archived and Made Available >Fellow Fractaliers- > > Here's my "thought" (worth $0.02) re Ian Kaplan's suggestion (in Digest >#300) to monthly write the list-posted pars (and perhaps the >uncopyrighted Contest images as well) to CD-ROM in some agreed-upon >format, and to make them available to list Subscribers at a nominal fee: >an unqualified "YES!!". > Not only would it save us all a lot of repetitive effort (as we all >obviously go through the same or similar process of setting up our hard >drives and - daily, weekly or monthly - archive most or all of the >files), but it would also provide a permanent archive of the end >product, rather than "something-which-will-produce-the-ACTUAL-IMAGE- >with-just-a-little-more-work". > After all, this list is about images, as well as how they are >generated. A CD archive will make the images themselves more acessible, >and I think, would be a welcome addition. > >DeBow Freed PhD > It could even be considered a publication by all. It would reduce the possibility of pics being chosed by others for personal gain as they would be even more freely available to be bought and we all remember the exceptional ones. We could in fact produce a "book" though not on paper - that is where our technology is taking us. We could include biographies etc and stories on how the pics were created, why, where, anything that the artist wanted said within realistic limits. We would see the progress of quality, the growing of styles, changes in personalities. It's amazing what you can discover about a person by looking at the fractals they produce, the names they choose, the colours they use etc. The only problem would be: are we honest enough to maintain a service like this for the benefit of the artists involved, or would we open a loophole for some scoundrel to take on the job and reap all the profits. I believe this should be left up to the artists themselves to decide. Would each artist be prepared to archive and forward all of their works in an appropriate format, or will someone collect it and archive it? Who will be in charge? Has this topic been discussed to any great length previously? Do any of the artists make CD's of their artwork already? Fractals are a legitimate art form yet few artists know of them, more mathematician/computer scientists know about them. Let's make them widely known. (We don't have to reveal all secrets;-) For those who say archives exist on the net: there are thousands of pics, thousands of locations, we don't always have a connection to the web, we don't all have facilities to save all the pics we want (nor want to go against the artists wishes). And yet there is something good about viewing certain fractals - to ease the heart, soul, body and whatever else it is like a drug - we see the world in a swirl of different colours and structures. I remember seing my first fractal - over 10 years ago, and would like to view those in the void of that time. There was a lot of development. It would be a shame if at the end of the next ten years there would be people thinking these same thoughts as I am now about past pics. bye, regina Music is my life, Fractals are my soulmates, Administration provides me with money. Shame I can't be in the testing dept sleeping all day... - - We sleep 1/3 of our lives. Choose wisely. sleepysams@sea.com - the sea is just a bigpond - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:15:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Ian Kaplan Subject: Re: (fractint) Ian Kaplan's Suggestion that List-Posted Images be CD-Archived and Made Available Regina and Steve wrote (in part) > It could even be considered a publication by all. It would reduce the > possibility of pics being chosed by others for personal gain as they would > be even more freely available to be bought and we all remember the > exceptional ones. We could in fact produce a "book" though not on paper - > that is where our technology is taking us. We could include biographies etc > and stories on how the pics were created, why, where, anything that the > artist wanted said within realistic limits. We would see the progress of > quality, the growing of styles, changes in personalities. It's amazing what > you can discover about a person by looking at the fractals they produce, the > names they choose, the colours they use etc. > and lots more good stuff. While I'm not prepared to start producing fractal CD 'books' just yet, [and I do think some of the more serious artists on this listserv might have some issues with that], I'm going to experiment with putting September's pars on CD at the end of the month, I think. I will also include the contest entrants. So, I'm posting with a few questions: 1) Do any artists here have an objection to such a collection, if I distributed it only to members of the list? I can't see a reason why one would, but I don't want to step on any toes, so do speak up if you see a problem with this. 2) What graphics formats are called for? I guess I would render each image in 1600x1280, 1280x1076 (have to use diskvideo for those for now, sigh) 1024x768 and 800x600; should I include 640x480 as well? 3) What would be the best way(s) to structure the CD? by artist, by formula, etc... should I include HTML pages to browse it with... should I separate .par and .frm files... et cetera... 4) Will people who would be interested in getting such a thing, at cost (about $2 plus shipping of a light package) e-mail me (ian_kaplan@bigfoot.com) so that I can get an idea of how much interest there is? Thanks, all... - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:15:39 +0200 (MET DST) From: fjslman@wins.uva.nl (F.J. Slijkerman) Subject: Re: (fractint) Video Cards > Debora, > > >Is anyone running a Diamond Stealth 2 > >S220 4meg video card successfully with FractInt and other fractal > >generators? Do any of you have trouble with this card? > I have a Diamond Stealth II s220, and it seems to run fine with Fractint. Best regards, Frederik. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 00:30:05 -0700 (MST) From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) Ian Kaplan's Suggestion that List-Posted Images be CD-Archived and Made Available I don't personally have any objection to this, but to cover yourself, you might want to get signed releases from everyone whose art you wish to publish on the cd. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com www.primenet.com/~lkmitch/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 21 Sep 1998, Ian Kaplan wrote: > Regina and Steve wrote (in part) > > > It could even be considered a publication by all. It would reduce the > > possibility of pics being chosed by others for personal gain as they would > > be even more freely available to be bought and we all remember the > > exceptional ones. We could in fact produce a "book" though not on paper - > > that is where our technology is taking us. We could include biographies etc > > and stories on how the pics were created, why, where, anything that the > > artist wanted said within realistic limits. We would see the progress of > > quality, the growing of styles, changes in personalities. It's amazing what > > you can discover about a person by looking at the fractals they produce, the > > names they choose, the colours they use etc. > > > > and lots more good stuff. > > While I'm not prepared to start producing fractal CD 'books' just yet, > [and I do think some of the more serious artists on this listserv might > have some issues with that], I'm going to experiment with putting > September's pars on CD at the end of the month, I think. I will also > include the contest entrants. > > So, I'm posting with a few questions: > > 1) Do any artists here have an objection to such a collection, if I > distributed it only to members of the list? I can't see a reason why one > would, but I don't want to step on any toes, so do speak up if you see a > problem with this. > > 2) What graphics formats are called for? I guess I would render each > image in 1600x1280, 1280x1076 (have to use diskvideo for those for now, > sigh) 1024x768 and 800x600; should I include 640x480 as well? > > 3) What would be the best way(s) to structure the CD? by artist, by formula, > etc... should I include HTML pages to browse it with... should I separate > .par and .frm files... et cetera... > > 4) Will people who would be interested in getting such a thing, at cost > (about $2 plus shipping of a light package) e-mail me > (ian_kaplan@bigfoot.com) so that I can get an idea of how much interest > there is? > > Thanks, all... > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:30:51 +2 From: "J.P. Louvet" Subject: (fractint) Test for Tim - don't read - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- J.P. Louvet | Phone : (33)56-84-58-35 IUT Universite Bordeaux I | email : louvet@iuta.u-bordeaux.fr 33405 Talence CEDEX France | email : louvet@hs-serveur.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fractales sur serveur Web Universite Bordeaux I : http://graffiti.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/MAPBX/louvet/jpl0.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:33:43 +2 From: "J.P. Louvet" Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Software le 9 Sep 98 a 19:05, Paul N. Lee ecrivait (Paul N. Lee wrote) : > Software Count > ------------ --------- > ? ? 17 > Dllirium Tremor .000001 beta 3 > Dust Fractals 3 > Flarium 3 > Flarium 24 4 > Flarium 24 with Painter 5 2 > Flarium or TieraZon with Photoshop 1 > Fractal (custom Visual Basic program) 1 > Fractal Domains 6 > Fractal eXtreme 1 > Fractal eXtreme 1.21 6 > FractInt 3 > FractInt 17.2 with PhotoShop 5.0 1 > FractInt 17.3 1 > FractInt 19.2 1 > FractInt 19.3 6 > FractInt 19.5 2 > FractInt 19.6 116 > FractInt 19.6 with Bryce 2.0 1 > FractInt 19.6 with Paint Shop Pro 2 > FractInt 19.6 with Picture Publisher & MS-Paint 1 > FractInt 19.6 with some graphic editor 1 > FractInt with custom software 1 > GrafZViZion 1.8 1 > GrafZViZion 2.3 1 > Inkblot Kaos with Photoshop 4.0 LE 1 > Iterations 28 or 29 1 > Kai's Power Tools - Fractal Explorer 4 > MathArt 3 > own code, written in C 1 > own Liapunov program 1 > own program 3 > own software 3 > P.O.V. 2 1 > POV-Ray 3.0 2 > QuickBASIC 4.5 2 > TieraZon 9 > TieraZon 1.0 1 > TieraZon 1.0 (overlayed images) 2 > TieraZon 2 or 2.05 1 > TieraZon 2.05 19 > TieraZon 2.05 with Photoshop 4.0 LE 1 > TieraZon 2.05 with Picture Publisher 2 > TieraZon 2.06 2 > TieraZon with Photoshop 4.0 LE 1 > Truemand 3.0 beta 3 > Ultra Fractal 2 3 > Ultra Fractal 2.0 3 > Ultra Fractal 2.06 5 > VistaPro with MS-Paint 1 > WinFract 18.21 5 > Xaos 3.1 beta 3 Coming back to this very interesting list I note that there is Fractint... and the others. I know that some of you do VERY beautiful images with Fractint, some of them being amongst the best of this contest. But since I use true color programs I don't use now, and I think that I will never use Fractint in the future (as long as it is limited to 256 colors). It is why I am interested by the others in the list. It is clear that Stephen Ferguson's programs are the most frequently used after Fractint. I am very happy for Stephen, who has given to the fractal community a very valuable new scheme for coloring fractals and who has made several very good and easy to use programs. I am in very friendly terms with him. But I am also in equally friendly terms with Terry W. Gintz and I am disappointed to see that no program he made is in the list. They are very great ones, they need a bit more math than Stephen's programs, but Fractint users are not afraid by this. No concurrence between these 2 programmers (they work together for the new versions of their programs and I like Stephen's as well as Terry's ones). It seems that I hear an objection : "and you, what program have you used ?". Unfortunately I have sent nothing to this contest for several personal reasons (I regret this !) but I see that this contest offers very high quality images and 3 personal images would not change anything to the pleasure that I have to look at the contest site.. Jean-Pierre louvet : louvet@iuta.u-bordeaux.fr Fractal album : http://graffiti.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/MAPBX/louvet/jpl0.html - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:22:04 -0700 From: Judy Subject: Re: (fractint) z=z^z+m Hi Kerry I'm REALLY impressed that you could come up with that so quickly! I'd thrilled to have even half the understanding of the Math behind fractals that you continue to display. This would be a good time to also thank you for the various examples and explanations that I've seen you post within the brief time that I've been a part of this list. I confess that I don't understand all of them yet but I save them aside, hoping that eventually it will all come together in my head! Waiting for the preverbal light bulb I guess. OK... Now for the embarrassing admission. I guess I confused the various "Biomorphs". The one I fell in love with, looks like a single Tree. The trunk continues branching upward, to the sides and then downward to ultimately create a circle around the centered trunk. I found an exe file that creates the image in dos but I've not found any formulas that create a tree that branches to create a circle. Have you ever tried anything like that? Thanks again for all your wonderful help! Judy - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 06:40:40 -1000 From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Video Cards Our Diamond Stealth 64 Series 2000 PCI card works fine with Fractint under DOS and OS/2. It crashes the computer when we try to run Fractint under W95. On 20 Sep 98 at 12:44, Don Archer wrote: > >Is anyone running a Diamond Stealth 2 > >S220 4meg video card successfully with FractInt and other fractal > >generators? Do any of you have trouble with this card? > > I have a Diamond Stealth 64 4megs that runs Fractint at > 1600 x 1200 impeccably on a P166 system. Another blast of bits from David http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond Ignorance can be cured. Stupidity, now that's permanent. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:38:17 -0400 From: wdecker@csc.com Subject: (fractint) Another diff par This one popped up during lunch and I got to wondering what colors others might use to depict DNA. Anyone want to try another interpretation? Bill Decker dna-dance4 { ; (c) Bill Decker Sep 21, 1998 t= 0:03:29.32 ; on P100 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=0bill.frm formulaname=bills_diff function=log passes=1 center-mag=0.448807/-0.215329/1.566627/1/25 params=0.1/-0.1/2.01/1/1.99/1 float=y potential=255/200/0 colors=000uuu<21>000<16>000<4>G40K50L50<11>cD3dD4fE4hF5iH6<11>vdLwfMxhNz\ kPyiOxgN<10>lM9kK8jI7hF5gF5eE5<10>Q81O71M61K50I50<5>000<17>000100311<9>J\ 77L88N99PAAQBA<22>zk8<22>RC9PAAOAA<13>211000000<13>000000222<22>zzzwww } frm:bills_diff { ; Mar-4-98 c = x = pixel, y = pixel + p1: xtemp = x^p2 +c x = fn1(xtemp) ytemp = y^p3 +c y = fn1(ytemp) d = |x-y| z = d^2 |z| < 2 } - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:52:05 -0700 From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) guess the artist Here are some guesses on who made which images. If you have not voted yet, don't read this. (If you have not voted yet you probably don't have time to read this.) Please don't be offended if these are way off base. Kind of a contest within a contest. Fibonacci Cauliflower and Fibonacci Daisy -R. Parracho Shadows and Timeless- Damien Jones Wizard's Debate and End of Pretense - ???Sylvie Gallet Birth- Mark Christenson Jealousy- ???Wizzle - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:54:56 -0400 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) guess the artist Hi Kathy, >> Wizard's Debate and End of Pretense - ???Sylvie Gallet No and no!!! ;-) Cheers, - Sylvie - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #301 ******************************