From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #403 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Thursday, August 5 1999 Volume 01 : Number 403 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:13:57 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest My apologies for those of you already subscribed to the Fractal-Art list, as you will already know the following. The Fractal-Art '99 Contest is now under way. It is open to all fractal artists who wish to participate; you don't have to read a mailing list or post to a newsgroup, you just need to make fractal images. You can even use whatever software you like, on whatever kind of computer you like. Full details on the contest can be found at its web site: http://www.fractalus.com/contest99/ USA http://www.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/contest99/ France There are no prizes, other than glory, fame, and the respect of your peers, but please do come and join the fun. Last year's contest was a blast and most everyone enjoyed themselves. Now in its second year, the Fractal-Art Contest is an international contest aimed at promoting fractals as an art form. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:39:34 GMT From: juice@airmail.net Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:13:57 -0500, you wrote: >Now in its second year, the Fractal-Art Contest is an international = contest >aimed at promoting fractals as an art form. > Uh.... Isn't this the 3rd year? juice --have fun --harm none - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:14:15 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest Juice, - Uh.... Isn't this the 3rd year? Third year for a contest. Second year for the Fractal-Art Contest, which isn't restricted to just FractInt. The contest site does list the 1997 FractInt contest first, on the "About" page. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:50:10 +0200 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Luc-Andr=E9_Rey?=" Subject: (fractint) New pages, and beautiful in my site Hello everybody, The Fractal Artist Guest of this month is Lee SKINNER. You find 12 new and original pictures at : http://www.aour.ch page "fractales". En francais, vous trouverez ces pages par le petit bouton jaune en haut de page. In english, see the link "english version." - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 17:20:47 +0200 From: BeyerTh@t-online.de (Thomas Beyer) Subject: (fractint) Re: old magnetic1j Obviously the "look for final attractor"-algorithm (which is ALWAYS used with magnetic fractals) has been altered between Version 15 and 16. There are even more differences: (tested with V15.13 and 19.2) 1) V15 adapts the "bailout-value" to the magnification factor. If you zoom into an attractor, the picture remains nearly the same. V19.2 uses a fixed (but unknown) threshold-value. 2) With V15 the final-attractor-display fails, if magnification exceeds 20000. 3) V15 doesn't detect cycles as finite attractors (only fixed points). Try the Julia-set -1 + 0i! I think the squares displayed in V15 are caused by an incorrect calculation of the distance. Circle: sqr(dx) + sqr(dy) < sqr(delta) Square: abs(dx) < delta AND abs(dy) < delta I'll try to verify this by analysing the source code. On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:14:33 EDT, BeyerML@aol.com schrieb: > In Version 14 magnetic types of fractals were introduced in fractint. But > pictures computed with V14 or V15 looked different from those shown in > Peitgen's book "The Beauty of Fractals" (BOF). > between V15.13 and V16.11 (same as 16.1) somebody must have removed the bug > that made magnetic1j fractals edged! But why was it not mentioned in > fractint.doc? > another type of fractals showed the same behavior: simple > Julias calculated with the function "Look for Finite Attractor=yes". - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 21:01:11 EEST From: "Dimosthenis Baikos" Subject: (fractint) Reading email query Hi all, Does Fractint Lists Diggests contain all the messages sent in this list? Thank you for your answer! P.S. Enjoy your summer vacations. Hope you don't leave messages to pile up (as I did): Yesterday I returned home and today read and saved on disk 74 messages... ( Q-( ) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:35:44 -0700 From: "Karin Mattern" Subject: (fractint) Question This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01BEDC65.CFB05500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, everyone! I just subscribed to this list, mostly because I wanted information. I = don't know very much about Fractint, or the technical stuff, but I like = looking at the fractals. I was wondering how to get it to print right. = Every time I use the Print command, I get ten pages of hieroglyphics. My = friend got his to print after some difficulties, but he can't remember = how, and it won't print in colour. I'd appreciate some help! Thanks. = Lindsay - ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01BEDC65.CFB05500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, everyone!
I just subscribed to this list, = mostly because I=20 wanted information. I don't know very much about Fractint, or the = technical=20 stuff, but I like looking at the fractals. I was wondering how to get it = to=20 print right. Every time I use the Print command, I get ten pages of=20 hieroglyphics. My friend got his to print after some difficulties, but = he can't=20 remember how, and it won't print in colour. I'd appreciate some=20 help!   Thanks.
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;           =20 Lindsay
- ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01BEDC65.CFB05500-- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 23:44:39 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Question Karin Mattern wrote: > > Hi, everyone! > I just subscribed to this list, mostly because I wanted information. I > don't know very much about Fractint, or the technical stuff, but I > like looking at the fractals. I was wondering how to get it to print > right. Every time I use the Print command, I get ten pages of > hieroglyphics. My friend got his to print after some difficulties, but > he can't remember how, and it won't print in colour. I'd appreciate > some help! Thanks. > > Lindsay Try saving the image as a GIF file and then use some form of image editor for the printing function. This is how most everyone does it when using FractInt. P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 23:48:29 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Reading email query Dimosthenis Baikos wrote: > > Does Fractint Lists Diggests contain all the messages > sent in this list? Thank you for your answer! It usually has them all, unless something goes wrong with the system. > > P.S. Enjoy your summer vacations. Hope you don't leave > messages to pile up (as I did): Yesterday I returned > home and today read and saved on disk 74 messages... ( Q-( ) Consider yourself very lucky. I get around 125 per day. ;-} P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 05:29:04 -0400 From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Question At 09:35 PM 8/1/1999 -0700, you wrote: I was wondering how to get it to print right. Every time I use the Print command, I get ten pages of hieroglyphics. My friend got his to print after some difficulties, but he can't remember how, and it won't print in colour. I'd appreciate some help! Lindsay There is a way via, I think, editing your sstools.ini, but I do not recall what it is. A work around which I use is to simply save the image (hit "s" after the image is generated); the image is saved as a .gif image in your fractint directory. Then open the image and either print it directly from the associated program, e.g. LViewPro, PSP, etc., or copy the image and paste it into a word processing program such as WP. Regards, davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:26:18 EDT From: Critzygal@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Question Dear Lindsay, I use Winfract as I don't know DOS so I cannot give you any technical jargon. You probably know more than I do, but I'll try to help. Have you saved the fractal first? Do you have other graphics programs? Can you open the image in another program and print it from there? Does your printer work on other images? - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 09:34:38 -0700 From: "Terry" Subject: Re: (fractint) Question - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 5:26 AM Subject: Re: (fractint) Question > Dear Lindsay, > I use Winfract as I don't know DOS so I cannot give you any technical > jargon. You probably know more than I do, but I'll try to help. Hey, I found out you don't have to "know DOS" to run Fractint. It's pretty easy. Even DOS is easy. You don't have to know DOS to run DOS either, but it helps. Actually just try to get it going and then experiment with it. The arrow keys come in pretty handy. Page up is for zooming. hit C twice for color-cycling And the DOS ver. is more powerful (AAR. AAR!) ALOha Terry Erickson krietor@pacifier.com > Have you saved the fractal first? > Do you have other graphics programs? > Can you open the image in another program and print it from there? > Does your printer work on other images? > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: 02 Aug 1999 23:18:52 +0200 From: Erik Eriksson Subject: (fractint) Sierpinski Hi, I noticed that the Sierpinski triangle (gasket?) is represented as an L-system in Fractint. Is it possible to generate this shape the "dot-by-dot"-way in Fractint? Start in one corner of a triangle; choose one corner at random; walk halfway towards it and make a dot; choose a new corner at random; walk halfway towards it and make a dot ... etc? / Erik - -- Erik Eriksson ee@lysator.liu.se - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 17:37:56 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Sierpinski Erik, - I noticed that the Sierpinski triangle (gasket?) is represented as an - L-system in Fractint. Is it possible to generate this shape the - "dot-by-dot"-way in Fractint? Yes. Choose type "ifs", then choose "triangle". Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:26:48 -0600 From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Question Lindsay asked: 0000,0000,0000> I was wondering how to get it to print right. Every time I > use the Print command, I get ten pages of > hieroglyphics. My friend got his to print after some > difficulties, but he can't remember how, and it won't print > in colour. I'd appreciate some help! I recommend printing with some other software. Fractint does have some good prinbter drivers, but printer support is spotty, and the current authors know knothing about them. GIF is a universal format, so it is a simple matter to save the image as a GIF and print with any of hundreds of programs that do a good job. Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:08:45 +0530 (IST) From: Rajesh P Subject: Re: (fractint) Sierpinski > Hi, > > I noticed that the Sierpinski triangle (gasket?) is represented as an > L-system in Fractint. Is it possible to generate this shape the > "dot-by-dot"-way in Fractint? Start in one corner of a triangle; > choose one corner at random; walk halfway towards it and make a dot; > choose a new corner at random; walk halfway towards it and make a dot > ... etc? > > / Erik > The algorithm is used and the program is available with the book "fractal Mania". This is a beautiful method. A similar algorithm is used for creating 'fern', 'castle', etc. You can really observe the changing location of points every time you run the program yet the figure remains exactly the same. Rajesh P - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 05:01:37 -0400 From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: (fractint) Question I was on this list ages and eons ago and had to leave when my "former" ISP started changing the e-mail program[s] they used/supported. I kinda remember from way back when something about someone having hand coded a driver for FRACTINT and the ATI RAGE chip set. I have a ATI All-In-Wonder Pro AGP 8mb Vid/mem(Econo-version = not upgradable) and can't run above 800x600x256. My old computer which had a generic video card (Phoenix 32/64 with S3 Virge version chip set) could run FRACTINT @ 1024x768x256. This came into the discussion[s] of the list about the time I had to quit due to the previously mentioned ISP screw-ups which were over a year ago. Can anyone tell me where the driver is and/or who/whom wrote it and how do I contact them or will they contact me on how to get it? Whew! That was a mouth full! also DAMIEN, is the other list still running? PLEASE If so put me on it. BTW, What ever came of the registering of the FRACTINT name as an INTERNET domain? Yeah, I was on the list "THAT" far back. Oh well that it at this time. L8R - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 05:51:49 -0400 From: Barry N Merenoff <110144.2274@compuserve.com> Subject: (fractint) Re: Sierpinski Actually, to get a dot-by-dot representation of an EXACT Ifs fractal, the= adaptive cut method is better. Remember that chaotic iteration is probabilistic and will always have a small amount of uncertainty. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:37:25 GMT From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: (fractint) In the PAR I know the very latest version of FractInt is immenent, and I'm shure everybody concerned is *very* busy, but there is just one little thing I'd like to see in FractInt. And it probably wouldn't take much effort. (Ever heard that one before?) I'd like it if I could store maps, formulas, IFS systems AND parameters in ".PAR" files. Actually, I already can. I can use a parameter entry which just contains a "color=" entry, and this works as a map. I can include "frm:" entries, which function as formulas... But FractInt doesn't look here when loading pictures. If we could have dedicated features to do these thing, I'd be very happy. I like using parameter sets for my formulas; it makes it possible to set the initial values of the paramiters (p1, etc). It also allows you to pick the best default colours (something that not even the built in fractal types do!). Finally, if there were some special syntax that allowed you to enter "help" style comments into formulas, and a button to view them, it might look a bit nicer (although I shouldn't bother with hyperlinks...) - ------------ Having dumped all of that, I wonder what the "escher julia" type would look like if the julia it maps onto used some value other than C=0. Mmm... Perhaps I could write a little program to load a picture and then transform it using the Julia mapping function... I'll bet it would look... interesting... if not actually pretty! Has anyone else already tried this? - --------------------------------- Nam et ipsa scientia potestus est! (Sir Francis Bacon) Andrew Orphi Coppin DMU MK. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 10:12:48 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Question James, - I kinda remember from way back when something about someone having - hand coded a driver for FRACTINT and the ATI RAGE chip set. Well you could search the archives for that. :-) Most likely someone probably used the VESA2CFG program to look up the mode number for various supported video modes, and added entries to fractint.cfg so that they could be used. - also DAMIEN, is the other list still running? PLEASE If so put me on - it. Which other list? :-) There are currently three fractal-related mailing lists running on the icd.com server; fractal-art, ultrafractal, and philofractal. You can subscribe to any of them by sending "subscribe listname" (replace listname with the appropriate list name!) in the body of a message to majordomo@icd.com and you'll be subscribed. - BTW, What ever came of the registering of the FRACTINT name as an - INTERNET domain? Yeah, I was on the list "THAT" far back. The problem is (a) finding someone to pay for it, and (b) finding someone to host it. If you solve (a) by having a bunch of people "chip in", then you run into more problems of how to deal with the ownership. (b) is seldom free, and costs more (usually) than paying for the domain name in the first place. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 22:36:29 +0200 From: Theo Bakker Subject: Re: (fractint) Sierpinski Erik Eriksson wrote: > > Hi, > > I noticed that the Sierpinski triangle (gasket?) is represented as an > L-system in Fractint. Is it possible to generate this shape the > "dot-by-dot"-way in Fractint? Start in one corner of a triangle; > choose one corner at random; walk halfway towards it and make a dot; > choose a new corner at random; walk halfway towards it and make a dot > ... etc? > > / Erik > > > Erik Eriksson > ee@lysator.liu.se > > Typically I also tried to play this "chaos game" with FractInt, but didn't succeed. The random number generator incorporated in FractInt only generates a new number after each complete iteration. Which is bullocks (>>) for the Chaos game. I've written a routine in Maple though (obviously DEAD SLOW), but I don't suppose that's what you want. In fact I'm writing a dutch manual for FractInt to which I added an appendix about the chaos game, Hutchinson operators and so on. In it I put the very same question to the readers. If you make it work, please inform me! Gretings, Theo. > > > > - -- Theo Bakker theo.bertie@consunet.nl H. Roland Holstlaan 29 UIN 8400214 (ICQ) 2162 JE Lisse 0252-413775 - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 22:42:32 +0200 From: Theo Bakker Subject: Re: (fractint) Sierpinski "Damien M. Jones" wrote: > > Erik, > > - I noticed that the Sierpinski triangle (gasket?) is represented as an > - L-system in Fractint. Is it possible to generate this shape the > - "dot-by-dot"-way in Fractint? > > Yes. Choose type "ifs", then choose "triangle". > > Damien M. Jones \\ Hai Damien, Suppose you had a rough night when you wrote this reply. Never mind. Don't slep too well myself lately. Greetings; have fun Theo. - -- Theo Bakker theo.bertie@consunet.nl H. Roland Holstlaan 29 UIN 8400214 (ICQ) 2162 JE Lisse 0252-413775 - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 22:52:13 +0200 From: Theo Bakker Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Sierpinski Barry N Merenoff wrote: > > Actually, to get a dot-by-dot representation of an EXACT Ifs fractal, the > adaptive cut method is better. Remember that chaotic iteration is > probabilistic and will always have a small amount of uncertainty. > >Hi Barry, In fact it's not difficult to prove that this probabilistic method in fact produces the gasket (given enough time and discarding the first few points). Obviously both the ifs and .frm variation (which in fact uses the same operator) have quicker and better results. But that's not the fun of it, really ... Greetings, Theo. - -- Theo Bakker theo.bertie@consunet.nl H. Roland Holstlaan 29 UIN 8400214 (ICQ) 2162 JE Lisse 0252-413775 - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:21:52 +0200 From: "kanak" Subject: (fractint) someone is interested in ... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BEDEBF.5F248020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit carissimi frattalizzatori: I made a little utility that create a .MAP with the colors of a chosen sequence faded eachother (and fading the last into the first one) it is an handmade perl script and you need to be perl-IZED to use it perl [Practical Extraction and Report Language] is a free prog language easily available in the net) ask me questions or tell me if someone is interested in this P.S. try allfad.map with AtomicGlow ... kanak $_ = join "", reverse (split /\s+|[A-Z]|'/, "hacker'S - lONG perIOD - rUN'TILL theY'LL noTICE a - stRAWBERRY juICE"); s/\-/ /gi and s/([jp])/\u$1/gi and print; - ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BEDEBF.5F248020 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="allfad.map" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="allfad.map" 7 0 0 15 0 0 23 0 0 31 0 0 39 0 0 47 0 0 55 0 0 63 0 0 71 0 0 79 0 0 87 0 0 95 0 0 103 0 0 111 0 0 119 0 0 127 0 0 135 0 0 143 0 0 151 0 0 159 0 0 167 0 0 175 0 0 183 0 0 191 0 0 199 0 0 207 0 0 215 0 0 223 0 0 231 0 0 239 0 0 247 0 0 255 0 0 255 4 0 255 8 0 255 12 0 255 16 0 255 20 0 255 24 0 255 28 0 255 32 0 255 36 0 255 40 0 255 44 0 255 48 0 255 52 0 255 56 0 255 60 0 255 64 0 255 68 0 255 72 0 255 76 0 255 80 0 255 84 0 255 88 0 255 92 0 255 96 0 255 100 0 255 104 0 255 108 0 255 112 0 255 116 0 255 120 0 255 124 0 255 128 0 255 131 0 255 135 0 255 139 0 255 143 0 255 147 0 255 151 0 255 155 0 255 159 0 255 163 0 255 167 0 255 171 0 255 175 0 255 179 0 255 183 0 255 187 0 255 191 0 255 195 0 255 199 0 255 203 0 255 207 0 255 211 0 255 215 0 255 219 0 255 223 0 255 227 0 255 231 0 255 235 0 255 239 0 255 243 0 255 247 0 255 251 0 255 255 0 247 255 0 239 255 0 231 255 0 223 255 0 215 255 0 207 255 0 199 255 0 191 255 0 183 255 0 175 255 0 167 255 0 159 255 0 151 255 0 143 255 0 135 255 0 127 255 0 119 255 0 111 255 0 103 255 0 95 255 0 87 255 0 79 255 0 71 255 0 63 255 0 55 255 0 47 255 0 39 255 0 31 255 0 23 255 0 15 255 0 7 255 0 0 255 0 0 247 7 0 239 15 0 231 23 0 223 31 0 215 39 0 207 47 0 199 55 0 191 63 0 183 71 0 175 79 0 167 87 0 159 95 0 151 103 0 143 111 0 135 119 0 127 127 0 119 135 0 111 143 0 103 151 0 95 159 0 87 167 0 79 175 0 71 183 0 63 191 0 55 199 0 47 207 0 39 215 0 31 223 0 23 231 0 15 239 0 7 247 0 0 255 4 0 255 8 0 255 12 0 255 16 0 255 20 0 255 24 0 255 28 0 255 32 0 255 36 0 255 40 0 255 44 0 255 48 0 255 52 0 255 56 0 255 60 0 255 64 0 255 68 0 255 72 0 255 76 0 255 80 0 255 84 0 255 88 0 255 92 0 255 96 0 255 100 0 255 104 0 255 108 0 255 112 0 255 116 0 255 120 0 255 124 0 255 128 0 255 124 0 247 120 0 239 116 0 231 112 0 223 108 0 215 104 0 207 100 0 199 96 0 191 92 0 183 88 0 175 84 0 167 80 0 159 76 0 151 72 0 143 68 0 135 64 0 127 60 0 119 56 0 111 52 0 103 48 0 95 44 0 87 40 0 79 36 0 71 32 0 63 28 0 55 24 0 47 20 0 39 16 0 31 12 0 23 8 0 15 4 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BEDEBF.5F248020-- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:24:17 -0700 From: "Karin Mattern" Subject: (fractint) Thanks This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BEDE9E.2E832BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for all the help on how to print. 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          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;       =20 Lindsay
- ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BEDE9E.2E832BE0-- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:55:06 GMT From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: (fractint) Feigenbaum's Number I have a question about Feigenbaum's Number. They say it's about 4.669... Does anyone know how you actually calculate it? Is it rational? (I suspect not!) Just curiouse. - --------------------------------- Nam et ipsa scientia potestus est! (Sir Francis Bacon) Andrew Orphi Coppin DMU MK. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:14:00 -0700 From: "Kerry Mitchell" Subject: Re: (fractint) Feigenbaum's Number Andrew, Feigenbaum has 2 constants named after him. I believe the 4.669... one is the alpha constant. It's been calculated to many (20+) places, and I don't believe it's rational (although I haven't seen a proof). A direct (but not terribly efficient) way to calculate it is to use the structure of the Mandelbrot set. The main cardioid is centered on 0, that is, 0 is the "c" point such that c=0 (obviously). The large disk just left of the cardioid is centered on -1. That is, c=-1 satisfies c^2 + c = 0. To the left of that disk is another, smaller, centered somewhere about - -1.28. That point satisfies (c^2 +c)^2 + c = 0. The sequence of disks getting smaller off to the left have centers that satisfy the appropriate iteration of z^2 + c = 0, where z is the result of the previous iteration. For any group of 3 adjacent centers, form the ratio: (c_current - c_previous)/(c_next - c_current). As the disks get smaller and smaller and you converge on the Feigenbaum point (-1.4something), this ratio will converge on alpha. Kerry - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~lkmitch/ - ----------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- > From: Andrew Coppin > To: Fractint@xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Feigenbaum's Number > Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 8:55 AM > > I have a question about Feigenbaum's Number. They say it's about > 4.669... Does anyone know how you actually calculate it? Is it > rational? (I suspect not!) Just curiouse. > > --------------------------------- > Nam et ipsa scientia potestus est! > (Sir Francis Bacon) > Andrew Orphi Coppin > DMU MK. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #403 ******************************