From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #408 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Saturday, September 11 1999 Volume 01 : Number 408 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:32:09 EDT From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Ragweed par In a message dated 99-09-07 08:09:38 EDT, *Bill Decker* wrote: << Bill at NY is another Bill >> Whups...I'm sorry for my confusion. I'd spent a couple of hours tucking away pars collected from the listmail so by the time I realized I had lost your par all I recalled for sure was that it was an IFS by "Bill". I'll blame it on an angry wisdom tooth. Thank you very much(!) for sending me the par, the IFS will be a new Fractint experience for me; I haven't played with that capability yet. ~~ren - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:49:44 +0200 From: Thore Berntsen Subject: (fractint) Some questions? I'm now working on a new version of my Fractint Screen Saver, that some of You may have seen. And I have a few questions that I hope some of You can answer. 1. When running Fractint in disk-video mode. What is the fastest setting for the PASSES= parameter. My guess is that it is the 1 or 2 passes setting. Are there any circumstanses where I can't use these settings? 2. Is there any way to get rid of the warning message that one gets when trying to generate IFS fractals in disk video mode? I would like to allow these in my screen saver. Thore Berntsen Norway Berntsen@vbdas.no - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:52:06 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Contest Update Greetings folks, For those of you wondering where the contest entries are... I thought I'd fill you in a little bit. I've gone through all the contest entry submission mail over the past two months and verified the files for each entry. I currently have 401 images and animations, amounting to over 76M of material, in compressed form. This is a few more than Kerry has in his database, because there were some stragglers that he doesn't have yet. There are still a few minor changes we need to make before we can pour all the entries into the web site. There is a reason we didn't just put everything up right away and then make corrections later, and that reason is the CD. With this year's contest being so large (downloadable packs will probably total 80M, twice the size of last year's) I expect people to be very interested in ordering that CD, and once it's burned, it becomes very difficult to make changes. :-) So we want to get it right the first time, and if that means taking a few extra days to get everything lined up... then I think it's for the best. Since I don't actually *have* the database yet, I don't have listings of how many entries are in each category. I'll let you know once I have that information. I do expect to have the entries online before the end of the week; right now I'm projecting Thursday evening, possibly *late* Thursday evening, but it may be Friday. CD-ROM information will be posted at that time. Downloadable packs will likely take an extra day. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 20:22:30 -0700 From: "William S. Morton" Subject: (fractint) thanks I've been getting more support than expected! Thanks to everyone for your time & wisdom. Yes, I've got Fractint up & running on my pc. Still fine-tuning here & there. (Now, if only I had a transform command that would instantly make any given fractal to become a Lee Skinner true color ghost fractal!) Sarge - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 13:52:40 +0200 From: Dusan Djordjevic Subject: (fractint) Fractint 4NT What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be coded and when ? - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 02:25:14 -0400 From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT XFRACT is the unix/linux version of FRACTINT it's kinda long on the tooth but it's ot there somewhere check the spanky site, or do a search somewhere like WWW.GOOGLE.COM Can't help with the NT version info though. Sorry T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie jimmckenzie@earthlink.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: Dusan Djordjevic To: fraktali Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 7:52 AM Subject: (fractint) Fractint 4NT > What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be > coded and when ? > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 01:48:17 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Dusan Djordjevic wrote: > > What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux? > Are they going to be coded and when? > Based upon a recent email from one of the Developers, there is a "proposed Xfractint" that is "is still pretty rough". But they "are inches from releasing a new version of Fractint. The only reason it isn't released now is that" two individuals involved "have requested time to make some evolver and sound demos." There will be an announcement in this Discussion List, so look for it in the near future. P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:53:25 -0300 From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT - ----- Original Message ----- From: Dusan Djordjevic > What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be > coded and when ? I downloaded frain196.zip at college and unzipped in a NT machine. It worked fine, except for teh video modes. In that machine I had only permissiona to save files in the temp directory. Fernando _____ _ ___ |) |. | |(_`|) bresslau@ozdobe.org / ' ' ) / / ) | ()|| ~ |_|,_)| __________ ,-/-, /--/ /--< \ \ \ \ \ \ (_/ernando / (_enrique /____)resslau \¨-._ ==**********============================================================`> / / / / / / fernando_bresslau@yahoo.com /_.*¨´ ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ http://www.ozdobe.org http://www.jugend.com.br http://polijr.mcca.ep.usp.br _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:09:55 -0500 From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT On Tue, 07 Sep 1999, you wrote: > What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be > coded and when ? > The source for xfractint is available from the main fractint site at: =20 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html. (The link to it is on= that page.) I had some problems compiling it for Linux, so I've made availabl= e a binary package of xfractint that runs on Redhat Linux 5.2 with kernel=20 2.0.37. You're welcome to try it on your Linux box and let me know if it = works for you. It's available at: http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/xfractint.htm= l, along with some hints and tips on using it. Scott -- Scott D. Boyd -- sdboyd@fastlane.net http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/ Sorry - I'm fresh out of snappy sayings today... - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:39:15 -0600 From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Scott wrote: >You're welcome to try it on your Linux box and let me know if it > works 0000,0000,0000> for you. It's available at: http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/xfractint.html, > along with some hints and tips on using it. The proposed Xfractint release corresponding to Fractint 20.0 (not quite released yet so don't ask - but we are talking hours or days, not weeks) is at: 0000,8000,0000Times New Romanftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/tw04.zip ArialPlease don't upload this anwhere as I already know of some small changes I want to make, so there will be a slightly different release package in a few hours. As Paul quoted me, I called this "rough", although it is cleaner than past Xfractint packages. I am not too pleased with the Makefile, which I changed just enough to work with Red Hat 5.2. If anyone has suggested improvements let me know. For example, what are reasonable SRCDIR and BINDIIR locations? Also, we are putting all of Wizzle's maps in this release. For Xfractint, I just dumped them all into the release package. I should probably do something more elegant. For the DOS package, right now Scott, your hints on your Website look useful. Would you care to put them in a text file to be placed in the distribution? Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:24:44 -0700 From: "Bruce Nepple" Subject: (fractint) True Color in Fractint I have not been able to find a way to modify the colors when I select 1024X768x64M colors. I get a nice blue mandlebrot that I cannot modify. Am I missing something obvious? bruce - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 19:00:39 -0400 From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint At 02:24 PM 9/9/1999 -0700, you wrote: > >I have not been able to find a way to modify the colors when I select >1024X768x64M colors. I get a nice blue mandlebrot that I cannot modify. >Am I missing something obvious? > >bruce I think Fractint, at 1024 x 768 only supports up to 256 colors (.gif). Try resetting to that and see if that works. davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 18:45:22 -0600 From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint In article <199909092126.OAA02756@InterJet.imagenation.com>, "Bruce Nepple" writes: > I have not been able to find a way to modify the colors when I select > 1024X768x64M colors. I get a nice blue mandlebrot that I cannot modify. > Am I missing something obvious? Umm... fractint has extremely limited support for anything other than 8bit pallette-based image output. All of fractint's video output is built around <= 8bit deep displays. This assumption permeates all of the fractint code. 16/24/32 bit deep displays (64K/16.7M colors) just weren't around when fractint's video code was written. The developers of fractint are working on changing this situation, but its slow going because of the amount of code that needs to be changed. Also, in 16/24/32 bit video mode there is no longer any colormap to modify, so there is no way to change the colors the way fractint knows how to change them (modifying the colormap). The only "truecolor support" in support in fractint is the ability to write out the iteration value to a targa file called iterates.tga. You enable this with the truecolor=yes option. - -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:36:14 -0600 From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Fractint version 20 is available now at my FTP site. As soon as Noel gets it to spanky.triumf.ca, that will be the preferred download site. Meanwhile, the URL's at my site are: User package: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frain200.zip Developer source: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frasr200.zip I'd appreciate confirmation from a few of the early downloaders that the integrity of the package looks OK. The best way to get into the new features is to run the evolver and sound demos. These are accessible from demp.bat run in a clean directory with all the distribution files. The Xfractint release needs a day or two to finish, however the file tw04.zip at my ftp site is nearly complete. It just needs the help?.src files updated from the DOS package andf some Makefile cleanup. Please don't upload tw04.zip anywhere since it is not quite final. The final version will be along very soon. It's OK to upload frain200.zip and frasr200.zip to other sites, but prudence might dictating waiting 24 hours or so to see if I screwed up in any big way putting the package together :-) Tim Wegner - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:42:51 -0600 From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Rich said: > Umm... fractint has extremely limited support for anything other than > 8bit pallette-based image output. All of fractint's video output is > built around <= 8bit deep displays. True. However the truecolor drivers are implemented, and some reasonable truecolor support would not be hard to implement, even within the frustrating confines of the DOS existing medium memory model architecture. It's just that nobody has jumped in to do it. We'd probably have to save the files as Targas for know and convert to PNG offline. However I think we have a consensus that moving Fractint to a flat memory model is the highest priority. That's were I will focus my efforts, although I have a steep learning curve no matter which way we go. Once we are in a decent platform, we can do a massive cleanup. Of course Rich knows all about this :-) Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:52 0000 From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Hi Tim, It looks OK so far and I have the source and executables available from my site in the UK: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/olig/olig.htm or at the wishlist site: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/fracwish.htm Anyone wishing to report bugs in this version should visit: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm Though we would really appreciate it if you spent a bit of time finding out as much as you can about any misbehaviour you find before reporting, thanks! Anyone wanting help on using the evolver or sound stuff feel free to drop me a line :-) Cheers, Robin. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:37:37 -0300 From: "Fliguer, Miguel" Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 >>>It looks OK so far and I have the source and executables available >>>from my site in the UK The link for the source code http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/FRASR200.ZIP is not working (I also tried lowercase for the filename) Regards, Miguel Fliguer Buenos Aires, Argentina - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:43:22 -0300 From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint - ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil McRevis > The only "truecolor > support" in support in fractint is the ability to write out the > iteration value to a targa file called iterates.tga. You enable this > with the truecolor=yes option. Hi, I used this option and found the iterates.tga in my \fractint\temp directory. Now what can I do with it, since I don´t even now what *.tga means... Thanks, Bresslau _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:01:23 -0300 From: "Fliguer, Miguel" Subject: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!! Oh no ! I just tried V20 (on a Vectra/Windows NT 4.0/Integrated SiS video) and the first thing I noticed was that I'm not able to get SF5 (640x480x256) anymore !!! It says "This video mode is not available with your adapter", but it worked on v19.6 ! A little conspiracy theory is in order. Since this happens on the PC at my work, I'll be forced to do medium and high-res Fractint only at home. Maybe my boss asked for this on the wish list ... BTW, the new features look awesome in the help file, I can't wait to get home to try them... Miguel Fliguer Buenos Aires, Argentina - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:30:00 +0200 From: "kanak" Subject: R: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!! do you want me to send you the FRACTINT 19.6 zip ? tell me your address kanak Roma, Italy kanak@libero.it http://www.crosswinds.net/~kanak - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:27:05 -0600 From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint In article <000f01befb92$825bbdc0$a085f6c8@winnetou>, "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" writes: > Hi, I used this option and found the iterates.tga in my \fractint\temp > directory. Now what can I do with it, since I don't even now what *.tga > means... If you don't have any programming knowledge, then it won't do you any good. See the help file where it states that truecolor=yes writes the last iterate out to an iterates.tga file and then it directs you to consult a C code source file in the distribution that will show you how to write a program to read the iterates.tga file and then do something with it. In other words: this truecolor=yes feature is for expert programmer types, not the typical user. - -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:05 0000 From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: (fractint) v20.0 source Thanks for pointing out the broken link Miguel, I had the .zip part of the file name in lower case for some reason... all fixed now. Cheers, Robin. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:20:39 -0700 (PDT) From: noel Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Tim Wegner wrote: >Fractint version 20 is available now at my FTP site. As soon as >Noel gets it to spanky.triumf.ca, that will be the preferred download >site. Meanwhile, the URL's at my site are: The fractint page at Spanky: http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html Now points to the new version 20.0 of Fractint. None of the online docs are updated to the new version yet. That will take a few days, but the sourcecode and executable distributions can now be downloaded from the fractint website. Cheers, Noel - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:01:37 -0400 From: JoWeber Subject: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!! Hi All, you can download fractint v20.0 from my site http://www.hajoweber.de/download/program/fraint.exe or using http://www.joweber.de and visiting the download page. cheers --Jo Weber-- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:54:15 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Tim, - It's OK to upload frain200.zip and frasr200.zip to other sites, but - prudence might dictating waiting 24 hours or so to see if I screwed - up in any big way putting the package together :-) (smile) Well if you release an update, I'll grab it. As it is, the 20.0 package is also available here: ftp://ftp.fractalus.com/pub/tools-pc/fractint-20.0.zip Just in case anyone has any trouble connecting to the zillions of OTHER sites that have it. :) Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 00:16:13 -0400 From: "Mike Traynor" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Damien, > Just in case anyone has any trouble connecting to the zillions of OTHER > sites that have it. :) What, you mean there are folk that did not have it downloaded within minutes of Tim's announcement? I've only had a minute's look, but that evolver sure is cool. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:15:17 -0700 From: "William S. Morton" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 For recent newcomers to Fractint (aka ME), the Evolver feature is a real timesaver, (as well as a bitchin' 72+ image screensaver)! Tim Wegner wrote: > Fractint version 20 is available now at my FTP site. As soon as > Noel gets it to spanky.triumf.ca, that will be the preferred download > site. Meanwhile, the URL's at my site are: > > User package: > ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frain200.zip > > Developer source: > ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frasr200.zip > > I'd appreciate confirmation from a few of the early downloaders that > the integrity of the package looks OK. > > The best way to get into the new features is to run the evolver and > sound demos. These are accessible from demp.bat run in a clean > directory with all the distribution files. > > The Xfractint release needs a day or two to finish, however the file > tw04.zip at my ftp site is nearly complete. It just needs the > help?.src files updated from the DOS package andf some Makefile > cleanup. Please don't upload tw04.zip anywhere since it is not > quite final. The final version will be along very soon. > > It's OK to upload frain200.zip and frasr200.zip to other sites, but > prudence might dictating waiting 24 hours or so to see if I screwed > up in any big way putting the package together :-) > > Tim Wegner > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:01:26 -0600 From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!! Miguel wrote: > I just tried V20 (on a Vectra/Windows NT 4.0/Integrated SiS video) > and the first thing I noticed was that I'm not able to get SF5 > (640x480x256) anymore !!! It says "This video mode is not available > with your adapter", but it worked on v19.6 ! I am surprised that anything about 20.0 would have different video performance from 19.6, but anything is possible, especially under NT. I doubt this will help you, but might be of general interest. Version 20.0 comes with a program called makefcfg.exe that reads your VESA Video BIOS and writes a fractint.cfg file. I suggest you try this and tell us what modes are produced. This is a quick way to see what video modes fractint supports - better try this in the store before buying a computer :-) It is also a handy way to get set up for semi-standard VESA modes such as 1600x1200. Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:16:17 -0600 From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Damien wrote: > (smile) Well if you release an update, I'll grab it. As it is, the 20.0 > package is also available here: > > ftp://ftp.fractalus.com/pub/tools-pc/fractint-20.0.zip So far no show stoppers. There are a few places in the docs that say the pixel limit is 2048, and there are a few glitches in the demo.bat file, so I think we're safe from an immediate release of a bug fix 20.1 (knock on wood) :-) Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:41:17 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Are you ready for "Burn All GIFs Day": http://burnallgifs.org/ The event, which so far isn't scheduled for an actual date, was started in anger over the discovery that Unisys is making a new effort to extract royalties out of US patent 4,558,302, commonly known as the LZW compression method. Created by Terry Welch of Sperry Corporation in 1983, LZW eventually became Unisys property when Sperry merged with Burroughs Corporation to form Unisys in 1986. LZW is at the heart of the GIF file format. If you make or store GIF files, you're using patented LZW formulas -- and Unisys wants money from you. Of course, this means that GIFs are off-limits to open source users, who aren't used to paying for licenses. The League for Programming Freedom (LPF), which is closely related to the GNU project (LPF was co-founded by GNU leader Richard Stallman), is trying to fight this kind of technology hoarding. And, as a result, you'll see no GIFs on the GNU or LPF Web sites. As far as the GIF-using community knew, no terms existed on using the GIF format until 1995, when CompuServe shocked its community by revealing its deal with Unisys and spelling out terms by which developers would pay licensing fees. But that agreement covered only CompuServe users. The rest of the online community was -- and is -- still open to attack. While maintaining that users of GIF viewers were safe, Unisys began pursuing its patent claims against companies whose graphics software was capable of writing GIF-format files. To let everyone know it was serious, Unisys in 1998 went after Corel and was able to get retroactive fees in an out-of-court settlement. - --- Fork it over --- Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a Web site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software. For more information on the above story, go to the following URL: http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/linux/news/0,6423,2330029,00.html P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:44:20 -0700 From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 At 09:16 AM 9/11/99 -0600, Tim wrote: >So far no show stoppers. There are a few places in the docs that >say the pixel limit is 2048, and there are a few glitches in the >demo.bat file, so I think we're safe from an immediate release of >a bug fix 20.1 (knock on wood) :-) I had a minor problem. When in evolver mode, I invoked the Ctrl-E command to modify things, and Fractint failed to switch video mode back to text 320x200. While accessing both the first and F6 screens, all text was written over the prior image. I had to quit and restart to clear the bug. I was not able to reproduce the problem. I was running an AMD 80 Mhz 486DX2, with MS.DOS v6.22 and a Trident 8900-based ISA video card, in SF5 mode. Here's my sstools.ini: textsafe=no sound=off fastrestore=yes askvideo=no video=SF5 colors=@temp1a.map maxiter=300 recordcolors=yes Also, an observation/request/complaint (choose one): it would seem to be more natural to use the p(n) data for the current image in x/y mode, rather than require the user to manually enter the lower left corner data. Other than that, I am enjoying the heck out of my new toy! Thanks, Bud - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 16:00:47 -0400 From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) V.20 early par An early par out v.20: Thought I would take a few minutes break time and see if I could get anything out of Fractint v.20. The color map started out as Droz12 or 13 which I proceeded to modify. And here is the result: ds2 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 11, 1999 t= 0:02:16.77 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 reset=2000 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=sin/sqr passes=b center-mag=-0.00000000000000067/+0.00000000000000044/1.36612 params=0/0/1.75 float=y maxiter=500 bailout=4 inside=zmag decomp=256 colors=000vrR<11>dJ9cG8aD6<2>Y42W00X31<11>pfLqiNslP<3>zzW<11>fLBdI9bE8<3\ >W00<7>l_IncKqhM<3>zzW<5>kWHhREfLB<3>W00W00<9>nbKpfMrjO<3>zzW<9>gOCeKAcG\ 8<2>Y42W00W00<13>pgMrjOsmP<3>zzW<7>iREgNCdIA<3>W00<16>qiNslPtoQ<3>zzW<4>\ lZIjTFgNC<3>W00<11>oeLqhNslO<2>xvUzzWywV<9>fNCeJAcF8<3>W00<9>nbKpfMrjO<3\ >zzW<3>kWGgOCcG8_84W00<11>tnP } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #408 ******************************