From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #420 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Thursday, October 28 1999 Volume 01 : Number 420 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:49:24 -0700 From: "William S. Morton" Subject: (fractint) please... - --------------FD8F770CFE4609102875D09F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I visited. (That's all???) Weishaupt.com offered more! Glock firearms has a better construction site! At least put in a fractal gif to let people know where you're headed! Jon Meadows wrote: > >Subject: Re: (fractint) Something I just got it into my head to > do...>>Marcus Rezende sent me some interesting fractals coded in > basic,>along with the compiled basic executables. He would like to > share>them with the list. Since it is not appropriate to send > binaries>attachments to this list, I wonder if someone could offer him > a place>to post them where they could be retrieved via FTP. I would be > happy to provide website space at the site that we aresetting up for > the fractint and fractal artist and developers. It's actually the > first of a much larger vision/project... - --------------FD8F770CFE4609102875D09F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I visited. (That's all???) Weishaupt.com offered more! Glock firearms has a better construction site!
At least put in a fractal gif to let people know where you're headed!

Jon Meadows wrote:

 >Subject: Re: (fractint) Something I just got it into my head to do...>>Marcus Rezende sent me some interesting fractals coded in basic,>along with the compiled basic executables. He would like to share>them with the list. Since it is not appropriate to send binaries>attachments to this list, I wonder if someone could offer him a place>to post them where they could be retrieved via FTP. I would be happy to provide website space at the site that we aresetting up for the fractint and fractal artist and developers. It's actually the first of a much larger vision/project...
- --------------FD8F770CFE4609102875D09F-- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:38:21 +1300 From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: RE: (fractint) Something I just got it into my head to do... At 11:25 21/10/1999 -0500, Jon Meadows(?) wrote: >>>>Something. I'm sorry? I think your email client Microsoftened your message. Even though Eudora Light usually handles MSHTML, the only two words I recognised in this case were "as well" (I'm sorry if I got your name wrong). Morgan L. Owens "A-downhill-scii" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:02:12 -0300 From: "Alejandro Gustavo Kainer" Subject: RE: (fractint) YAMP - Yet Another Music PAR Miguel wrote: >> Right. I got the best results with an all-white or >> all-black key scale (sorry, don't know the technical >> names for this). I guess you can call them Natural (for white keys) and Chromatical (for black ones). Black keys over the keyboard augment or diminish the scale in half a tone with respect to the relative "value" that white keys have. So if you have a D white key (in a piano), the black key to its left diminish its value in half a tone, converting it into D bemol (or "flat"); and the black key to its right augment its value in half a tone too, so we have D#, or sustained. I think that we can use some kind of "indoors" language about Music Pars, and maybe we can borrow it from its mother... or just create it ourselves, as long as this is a completely new field (at least it is for me:))) ). I can explain this technical stuff in Spanish but I don't know how to translate them exactly. I suppose I'm very close to the right words... @le - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:35:13 +0200 From: Guy Marson Subject: (fractint) Athlon versus Pentium III Hi Fractinters, My old P90 is out of order now, I don't find HD's (2.1GB max.) anymore... etc... so does somebody knows what CPU is better for Fractint (using the FPU): the AMD Athlon or the Intel P III? Thanks for the help! Guy - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:49:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Ian Kaplan Subject: Re: (fractint) Athlon versus Pentium III > etc... so does somebody knows what CPU is better for Fractint (using the > FPU): the AMD Athlon or the Intel P III? In general the Althon significantly outperforms a PIII running at the same clock speed, and if you count the cost of buying motherboards their prices are close to equivalent, maybe slightly less for the Althon. However, you do need to _find_ an Althon motherboard, which can be harder than it should be. I'm upgrading to an Althon 600 or 650 as soon as the Via chipset for them, supporting a 133Mhz bus and AGP4x and other goodies, comes out, but who knows how long that'll take... - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:30:07 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Athlon versus Pentium III Guy, - so does somebody knows what CPU is better for Fractint (using the - FPU): the AMD Athlon or the Intel P III? I concur with Ian Kaplan, the Athlon should outperform an equivalently-clocked P-III. However, these chips are tuned for 32-bit performance, and FractInt is still a 16-bit DOS app. (Don't knock the developers, they all volunteer their time and they do know what direction FractInt needs to go.) So the performance difference *for FractInt* will probably not be as much as one might expect. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:43:10 -0300 From: "Fliguer, Miguel" Subject: (fractint) Music fractals - WAS : YAMP - Yet Another Music PAR Anyway, I'm a living proof that you don't need to know anything about music theory to enjoy a wide range of styles, including fractint PARs :-) And now for something (not) completely different : I'm gathering ideas on what would be the best way to represent a music PAR on a web page. I think a "thumbnail" could be developed, based on a fragment of the "melody". But what about file formats ? WAV ? MP3 ? MIDI ? How could you get a MIDI file from the audio output ? (maybe on fractint V21...) Hope to hear your thoughts on this topic. Alright, enough talkin' and move to the beat !!! Too.Much.Sake { ; Too much indeed ... ; by Miguel Fliguer 1999 ; fliguer@hotmail.com reset=2000 type=quadruptwo passes=1 corners=0.1759285/1.51249/-7.974027/2.283977/-4.28299/-3.526999 params=8/2/5 float=y maxiter=20 bailout=64 inside=3 viewwindows=4.2/0.75/yes/0/0 hertz=110 sound=x/fm/quant polyphony=3 wavetype=1 attack=6 decay=9 sustain=6 srelease=4 scalemap=11/4/7/9/2/2/4/7/2/4/7/9 orbitdelay=2700 colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<3>HHHKKKOO\ O<3>ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zVz<3>zV\ V<3>zzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>zhh<3>zzh<3>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00S<3>S0\ S<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2>EHSKK\ S<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3>G0G<3\ >G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<2>GE8GG8EG8CG8AG88G\ 8<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<2>BGFBG\ GBFGBDGBCG000<6>000 } Marimba.Fiesta { ; nice ... ; by Miguel Fliguer 1999 ; fliguer@hotmail.com ; reset=2000 type=latoocarfian function=recip/sin/recip/sin passes=1 corners=-2.656128/3.605536/-0.6630742/0.3554989/-56.26256/-28.24804 params=1/2/3/1 float=y maxiter=20 bailout=64 inside=3 viewwindows=4.2/0.75/yes/0/0 hertz=330 sound=y/fm/quant polyphony=9 attack=2 decay=9 sustain=3 srelease=3 scalemap=11/4/7/9/2/2/4/7/2/4/7/9 orbitdelay=1900 colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<3>HHHKKKOO\ O<3>ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zVz<3>zV\ V<3>zzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>zhh<3>zzh<3>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00S<3>S0\ S<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2>EHSKK\ S<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3>G0G<3\ >G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<2>GE8GG8EG8CG8AG88G\ 8<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<2>BGFBG\ GBFGBDGBCG000<6>000 } Nuke_Oldfield { ; Mike Oldfield goes to Chernobyl ; A bit boring if you wait for it to complete :-) ; by Miguel Fliguer - 1999 ; fliguer@hotmail.com reset=2000 type=threeply center-mag=-2.50111e-012/1.64846e-012/0.002102011/0.5941/-43.403/-3.177 params=-24/3/-31 float=y hertz=11 sound=z/fm/quant polyphony=3 wavetype=1 attack=9 decay=9 sustain=12 srelease=12 scalemap=2/2/4/4/7/7/9/9/11/11/2/4 orbitdelay=2000 colors=000zs0<7>zw0zw0zx0<2>zy0zz0zy0<119>z20z20z10<3>z00z00z00<110>zr0 } - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:38:15 -0300 From: "Ricardo M. Forno" Subject: RE: (fractint) YAMP - Yet Another Music PAR Alejandro Gustavo: Actually, Chromatic means using *both* white and black piano keys. If you use *only* black keys, the resulting musical scale is called pentatonic, and it is the one used by the quechuas in Bolivia and north of Argentina. It results in sweeter sounds than the "natural" or diatonic major scale. Un saludo para otro argentino en fractint. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Alejandro Gustavo Kainer To: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 7:02 AM Subject: RE: (fractint) YAMP - Yet Another Music PAR > Miguel wrote: > > >> Right. I got the best results with an all-white or > >> all-black key scale (sorry, don't know the technical > >> names for this). > > I guess you can call them Natural (for white keys) and Chromatical (for > black ones). Black keys over the keyboard augment or diminish the scale in > half a tone with respect to the relative "value" that white keys have. So if > you have a D white key (in a piano), the black key to its left diminish its > value in half a tone, converting it into D bemol (or "flat"); and the black > key to its right augment its value in half a tone too, so we have D#, or > sustained. > > I think that we can use some kind of "indoors" language about Music Pars, > and maybe we can borrow it from its mother... or just create it ourselves, > as long as this is a completely new field (at least it is for me:))) ). I > can explain this technical stuff in Spanish but I don't know how to > translate them exactly. I suppose I'm very close to the right words... > > > @le > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 10:09:25 +0100 From: Ulrich Schweitzer Subject: (fractint) xfractint 3.10: corner parameters not available Hi! I just compiled xfractint 3.10 on Redhat 6.0. In general it workes OK (apart from problems with colordepths other than 8bit, but I was told that this a known bug). Now my problem: I can't get into the menu corner parameters from neither 'type-specific parms' nor from 'select fractal type'. F6 or shift-6 just don't do anything although I can get the help screen with shift-1 and the 'Top Secret Developer's Screen' with shift-6 from 'info about image'. Does anyone know how to solve this? Thanks a lot in advance Ulrich - -- "...very few phenomena can pull someone out of Deep Hack Mode, with two noted exceptions: being struck by lightning, or worse, your *computer* being struck by lightning." (By Matt Welsh) - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:48 0000 From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: (fractint) Musical thumbnails >WAV ? MP3 ? MIDI ? How could you get a MIDI file >from the audio output ? (maybe on fractint V21...) I'd say MP3, it's well established and very compact if you keep the bitrate down. A midi file would be quite possible but, since midi does not have a set of sound controls which correspond to the current low level FM control, getting anything sounding the same would be a bit hit and miss. Cheers, Robin. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:37:55 -0300 From: "Alejandro Gustavo Kainer" Subject: RE: (fractint) Musical thumbnails Robin wrote: >> I'd say MP3, it's well established and very compact if you keep the bitrate down. Well. at least no one would claim that we are plagiarizing songs :) But in the event that we can fill up a CD with them... Could we make a contest based upon these? Or some sort of Chart, like Billboard, with "hits" parade and the like? I mean, we had fractal music before (at least I knew about it), but we can have a duo here: fractal art and music, all in one, with people voting their favorites... Will we have "bands", say FrankTal and the Mandels, who will perform their fractunes alive? Do you think it's a dream? Who would dare? :)) Nice weekend :) @le PS: Ricardo, you were most right. Actually I haven't touched a keyboard in years though I was a pianist long ago (or should I say that's what my mother said to me :) ) - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:45:42 EDT From: SKAristo@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Are there Fractal Musical websites? Hello all, It is rare that I write as I am not actively creating fractint creatures of the visual nor the musical kind. I do take pleasure in reading and in partaking of websites. Are there any websites dedicted to fractal music? Thanks, DocFos - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:18:13 -0300 From: "Fliguer, Miguel" Subject: RE: (fractint) Musical thumbnails >>>A midi file would be quite possible but [snip] I just did RTFM and found that orbitsave=sound can generate a .txt file with the "raw" sound data, which in turn can be post-processed and converted to MIDI. In, fact, the Fractint help mentions that Bill Jemison has produced some interesting music with this feature. Bill, if by chance you are lurking around, could you elaborate on this ? Thanks & regards, Miguel http://members.xoom.com/fliguer/franktal.html - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 18:11:42 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Expected downtime for contest site Greetings folks, As some of you know, I am leaving my current position at Rock River Internet, where I've been for the past two years. Ordinarily I would not bother anyone with the personal details of my life, but in this case it might affect some net resources of interest to you. :-) For quite some time now, Rock River Internet and its parent company ICD have graciously permitted me to run the Fractal-Art, Ultra Fractal, and PhiloFractal mailing lists, and also to run fractalus.com and the Infinite Fractal Loop. They have even permitted me to host the contest web sites (no small drain on net resources, I might add). Knowing that I was leaving, I have over the past three months moved almost all of my net resources over to my own server. I plan to take this server with me to my new job, where I have already arranged to be able to set the server up. So things will continue right where they left off. Now, for the only reason I bring this up: my new position is in Orlando, FL. That's roughly 1500 miles (2400km) from Rockford, IL. :-) Driving halfway across the US is going to take me a few days, and in that time, none of fractalus.com will be functional. All of those things I mentioned will be temporarily unavailable, but will return as they were before (or slightly improved). Please note, during the downtime, *no* messages to the lists run from fractalus.com will go through; in fact, you can expect them to bounce back to you. I'll post an announcement to the lists when they're back up. The approximate downtime will be from Monday morning until Thursday evening, US time. Contest results will be posted to the web site after I arrive, but I'll post them to the fractal mailing lists tomorrow afternoon. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:52:08 -0400 From: BILL RAY Subject: Re: (fractint) Expected downtime for contest site Very good luck in your new job. "Damien M. Jones" wrote: > Greetings folks, > > As some of you know, I am leaving my current position at Rock River > Internet, where I've been for the past two years. Ordinarily I would not > bother anyone with the personal details of my life, but in this case it > might affect some net resources of interest to you. :-) > > For quite some time now, Rock River Internet and its parent company ICD > have graciously permitted me to run the Fractal-Art, Ultra Fractal, and > PhiloFractal mailing lists, and also to run fractalus.com and the Infinite > Fractal Loop. They have even permitted me to host the contest web sites (no > small drain on net resources, I might add). > > Knowing that I was leaving, I have over the past three months moved almost > all of my net resources over to my own server. I plan to take this server > with me to my new job, where I have already arranged to be able to set the > server up. So things will continue right where they left off. > > Now, for the only reason I bring this up: my new position is in Orlando, > FL. That's roughly 1500 miles (2400km) from Rockford, IL. :-) Driving > halfway across the US is going to take me a few days, and in that time, > none of fractalus.com will be functional. All of those things I mentioned > will be temporarily unavailable, but will return as they were before (or > slightly improved). Please note, during the downtime, *no* messages to the > lists run from fractalus.com will go through; in fact, you can expect them > to bounce back to you. I'll post an announcement to the lists when they're > back up. > > The approximate downtime will be from Monday morning until Thursday > evening, US time. Contest results will be posted to the web site after I > arrive, but I'll post them to the fractal mailing lists tomorrow afternoon. > > Damien M. Jones \\ > dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: > \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ > > Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or > in a newsgroup. Thank you. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 04:33:12 -0500 From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Damien invades Florida "Damien M. Jones" wrote: > my new position is in Orlando, > FL. That's roughly 1500 miles (2400km) from Rockford, IL. Another Illinoisan flees the state for the safe confines of hurricane country. :-) Have a safe and speedy journey, Damien--at the posted speed limit, of course! Bob Margolis rttyman@wwa.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:09:01 EDT From: BillatNY@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Expected downtime for contest site Damien, Let me join everyone else in wishing you the best of luck in your new job. Have a safe and happy move! Bill - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:55:54 -0500 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: RESULTS! Greetings folks, I nearly had these ready at about 8AM (I was already in here doing network upgrades) but got pulled away and only now have I been able to finish pulling in all the information for the contest results. Just a reminder on how the results were generated. Each voter selected a first-, second-, and third-place image in each category. A first-place vote was worth three points; a second-place vote, two points; and a third-place vote, one point. The votes were recorded by the web server, with the list checked against confirmation codes that were mailed back. There were 105 confirmed votes. There were *no* ties for the first three positions in any of the categories. There was a three-way tie for fourth place in the "Best Lighting" category, just one point behind the third-place image. For each image, the entry number, total points received, image title, and artist are listed. If there is interest, I can post a breakdown of how many first/second/third place votes each image received as well. Comments that were sent in with votes were recorded; I'll take care of sending those out to the artists when I get to Florida. (I won't be doing that by hand--it will all be sorted by a program and sent to the right artist automatically.) And now, for the results! Emotion 185: 73 Jealousy, Gerald Albrecht 002: 70 A Pale Midnight Sun..., Sylvie Gallet 333: 42 That Peaceful Feeling, Faye Williams Organic 369: 51 Tree of Life, Ron Barnett 398: 39 Windtree, Cory Ench 230: 37 Nature Uses as Little as Possible, Karen Witzel Mechanical 345: 87 The Fractostat, Peter Spencer 285: 84 RPM, Oliver Zabraczky 024: 60 Assembling the Fleet, Linda Allison Abstract 331: 75 Taupensky, Janet Preslar 207: 35 Marblemosaic, Gergely Kiss 361: 34 Thunderhead, Damien Jones Quote Interpretation 355: 81 Then I Saw A New Heaven, Janet Preslar 243: 71 Old Wood, Damien Jones 104: 52 Evening Over San Francisco, Sylvie Gallet Limited Color 107: 73 Evolutionarium, Daniel Kuzmenka 170: 70 In Defiance of Vision, Damien Jones 241: 63 Obsidianesque, Ralph Feltens Best Color 057: 32 Chromatose, Benjamin Carson 104: 26 Evening Over San Francisco, Sylvie Gallet 083: 21 DeepJungle, Arne Richter Best Lighting 002: 34 A Pale Midnight Sun..., Sylvie Gallet 216: 25 Metropolis, Cameron O'Phee 058: 18 Clay Heart, Bill Decker Best Texture 331: 47 Taupensky, Janet Preslar 243: 25 Old Wood, Damien Jones 146: 24 Grandma's Knitting, Glenda Hawthorne Artistic Expression 331: 33 Taupensky, Janet Preslar 334: 23 The Astronomer Dreams, Morgen Bell 230: 22 Nature Uses as Little as Possible, Karen Witzel Best Overall 2D 331: 67 Taupensky, Janet Preslar 002: 35 A Pale Midnight Sun..., Sylvie Gallet 355: 26 Then I Saw A New Heaven, Janet Preslar 3D 181: 95 Io and Jupiter, Samuel Monnier 244: 63 Olympus Beckons, Philip Northover 391: 48 What Dreams May Come, Garth Thornton Animations 036: 79 Birth of the Phoenix, Ron Barnett 012: 62 Alien Vortex, Sharon Webb 214: 42 Merry Go Round, Dennis Magar Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:23:17 -0300 From: "Alejandro Gustavo Kainer" Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: RESULTS! Damien, Well done! Another contest is gone and next is coming... isn't it? :) Good luck in your new job, and may the force be with you. (See the bright side of things: now you can drive a while and visit Mickey Mouse:)) ). @le - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:41:53 +0200 From: "JB - FreeFLuX" Subject: (fractint) BsOA This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF1F42.840E5E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I have a rather technical question or rather a problem concerning Basins = of Attraction. More specifically BsOA for simple 2D Quadratic Strange = attractors (i.e. Henon map). So for you mathheads out there here's a run = for your money :). Take the general 2D Quadratic Strange Attractor system: X(N+1) =3D A*X^2 + B*Y^2 + C*X + D*Y + E*X*Y + F*X^2*Y + G*X*Y^2 + H Y(N+1) =3D I*X^2 + J*Y^2 + K*X + L*Y + M*X*Y + N*X^2*Y + O*X*Y^2 + P Now for any random values given to the co=EBfficients A through P, there = usually isn't much to see, but a lot of them DO produce a strange = attractor. These SAs all have Basins of Attraction, some are dull = looking things like the Basin for the Henon map others have fractal = basins like the Tinkerbell map.=20 What I would like to do is to have a Fractint .frm be able to take a = strange attractor (not neccesarily coded in the formula above) and = produce the basin of attraction for that strange attractor. You = immedialty see the problem here, Fractint only supports 3 parameters (p1 = , p2 and p3). It would not do to have all parameters up to p12 around. = The nice thing about this formula would be that when you pressed "o" for = the orbits, you would see the Strange attractor lying inside the basin. I was just wondering if this would be possible, TIA. John B. [Nevermind the Nickname...it's just there] - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF1F42.840E5E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All,
 
I have a rather = technical question or=20 rather a problem concerning Basins of Attraction. More specifically BsOA = for=20 simple 2D Quadratic Strange attractors (i.e. Henon map). So for you = mathheads=20 out there here's a run for your money :).
 
Take the general 2D = Quadratic Strange=20 Attractor system:
 
X(N+1) =3D A*X^2 + = B*Y^2 + C*X + D*Y +=20 E*X*Y + F*X^2*Y + G*X*Y^2 + H
Y(N+1) =3D I*X^2 + = J*Y^2 + K*X + L*Y +=20 M*X*Y + N*X^2*Y + O*X*Y^2 + P
 
Now for any random = values given to=20 the coëfficients A through P, there usually isn't much to see, but = a lot of=20 them DO produce a strange attractor. These SAs all have Basins of = Attraction,=20 some are dull looking things like the Basin for the Henon map others = have=20 fractal basins like the Tinkerbell map.
 
What I would like to do = is to have a=20 Fractint .frm be able to take a strange attractor (not neccesarily coded = in the=20 formula above) and produce the basin of attraction for that strange = attractor.=20 You immedialty see the problem here, Fractint only supports 3 parameters = (p1 ,=20 p2 and p3). It would not do to have all parameters up to p12 around. The = nice=20 thing about this formula would be that when you pressed "o" = for the=20 orbits, you would see the Strange attractor lying inside the = basin.
 
I was just wondering if = this would be=20 possible, TIA.
 
John B.
 
[Nevermind the = Nickname...it's just=20 there]
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF1F42.840E5E60-- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:48:11 +0200 From: Thore Berntsen Subject: (fractint) New version of Fractint Screen Saver I released version 2.1 of Fractint Screen Saver today. A Makepar choice in a right click menu is the news. Just download the new version and try it. The screen saver can be found at : http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm If You find any problems please report then to me. Thore Berntsen Berntsen@vbdas.no - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:16:16 EDT From: Hackberg91@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: RESULTS! Hi Damien. Thanks an awfull lot for this great and inspiring work you did with this contest /these contests by now. Though I didn't vote (shame on me) I admired the pictures though I couldn't decide and didn't have the time to download them all and carefully view before choicing. Sorry, maybe next time. Is there any simple listing which fractal program is best suited for what? I only use fractint and haven't discovered half of it, I guess (RTFM, I know). Thanks again and best wishes, Michael Hackenberger, Berlin - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:32:24 +0100 From: "Les St Clair" Subject: (fractint) Return of the Par collections Hi folks, Parameter collections for messages posted to this list during July-September '99 are now available from my web sites: For the pars only go to: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/fml.htm For the pars with message text go to: http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/crosstrees/fml.htm The updated "frac_ml.frm" formula collection is available from both sites. Many of the formulas have been updated to retain compatibility with Fractint v20.0 (many thanks to George Martin for his help in this department). cheers, Les St Clair - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:37:58 +0200 From: "J.P. Louvet" Subject: (fractint) Spanky ??? I cannot reach spanky since several days. Is it down ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- J.P. Louvet | Phone : (33)05-56-84-58-35 IUT Universite Bordeaux I | email : louvet@iuta.u-bordeaux.fr 33405 Talence CEDEX France | email : louvet@hse.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #420 ******************************