From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #497 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Saturday, September 30 2000 Volume 01 : Number 497 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:50:14 -0600 From: knife31a Subject: (fractint) Fractal Creations 2nd Ed - --=====================_170441669==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Tim Just read your comment about Fractal Creations book signing. and thought I had better get my copy and get in line, Then I re-read it (sighting) oh the agony. Guess I will have to wait until you do an out-of-date book signing (Barnes and Noble) for big bucks. Randy Hoffmaster P.S. Being a beginner I don't comment very often, however, I enjoy reading everyone e-mails, especially Jim Muth's FOTD... - --=====================_170441669==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Tim

Just read your comment about Fractal Creations book signing. and thought I had better get my copy and get in line, Then I re-read it (sighting) oh the agony. Guess I will have to wait until you do an out-of-date book signing (Barnes and Noble) for big bucks.

Randy Hoffmaster

P.S. Being a beginner I don't comment very often, however, I enjoy reading everyone e-mails, especially Jim Muth's FOTD...
 
  - --=====================_170441669==_.ALT-- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:54:03 -0700 (PDT) From: caren Subject: (fractint) Fractal Creations Book Sighting B&N isn't selling it (per se)... a dealer with the alias of LINCBOOK is trying to scalp a bit... first edition, second printing, is not a first edition worth nearly that much except to a hard-core collector of fractal paraphenalia (and they'd probably already have a copy or ten)... maybe they'll buy my copy from me for $150... after all, association with one of the artists of FC II should be worth even more, don't you think? :) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Margolis" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 17:24 Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal Creations book sighting > RENRAD1@aol.com wrote: > > > > I can't afford it, but just in case anyone else has been looking for a > > Fractal Creations book there is one listed at: > > > > http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/... > > > > for a mere $88.09 :( > > > > Gee, you weren't kidding! > > FRACTAL CREATIONS.Includes Fractint Version 15.11 > disk and color poster.3-D glasses missing > Wegner,Tim/Peterson,Mark > > Our Price: $88.09 > Ships 1-2 weeks > > Format: Paperback - First Edition > Publisher: Waite Group Press 1991 (1994). > Associated Dealer: LINCBOOK Foster, RI > Condition: First edition,second printing. Book > near-fine:light cover wear.Poster has some splits and tears. Illustrated > by Illustrations in b&w. 2nd printing edition. Binding is Paperback. > > > > Fortunately for me, I have the first and second editions. The second > edition, from 1993, cost USD $34.95 The first edition I have downstairs > and I'm too lazy to go down there at the moment to check on the price of > that one. But B&N's price is obviously more than a 100 percent mark up. > > The FractInt version that came with the second edition was 18, in case > you're interested. > > Bob > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:20:53 EDT From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: (fractint) Bug report & truecolor. I have a bug report and a question. 1. Bug report -- using version 20.0, I hacked fractint.cfg to add a 20480x15360 disk-video mode and a 4096x3072 one. When I first tried to use the former, I got an obscure error message about handles. I did a mental calculation and realized that though Fractint was on a disk drive with over 180 megabytes free, it would need over 300. With disk space freed up by moving files to the other drive, it worked. The error message needs improving I think. Also, it seems reasonable to allow the user to specify where to put temp files, so people with multiple hard drives and/or large removable r/w media can pick the most convenient place. These are more interface issue and feature request than bug. The bug happened with the latter disk-video mode, where a tesseral image was "completed" according to all indications, but the image that I got when I then hit 's' was only 2048x1536 and the fourth and part of the third tesseral quadrant were not, in fact, completed. 2. Question -- what's the status of truecolor development? I haven't heard anything about it in ages and version 20.0 is getting stale. It's a year old! All in all, Fractint is a great program though -- 20.0 has few bugs and no showstoppers that I've seen, and the evolver is very cool. When I combine it with this vring formula (or whatever it was) that I found on a Web site, it produces the weirdest Mandelbrots I've ever seen. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:24:07 -0500 From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal Creations book sighting RENRAD1@aol.com wrote: > > I can't afford it, but just in case anyone else has been looking for a > Fractal Creations book there is one listed at: > > http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/... > > for a mere $88.09 :( > Gee, you weren't kidding! FRACTAL CREATIONS.Includes Fractint Version 15.11 disk and color poster.3-D glasses missing Wegner,Tim/Peterson,Mark Our Price: $88.09 Ships 1-2 weeks Format: Paperback - First Edition Publisher: Waite Group Press 1991 (1994). Associated Dealer: LINCBOOK Foster, RI Condition: First edition,second printing. Book near-fine:light cover wear.Poster has some splits and tears. Illustrated by Illustrations in b&w. 2nd printing edition. Binding is Paperback. Fortunately for me, I have the first and second editions. The second edition, from 1993, cost USD $34.95 The first edition I have downstairs and I'm too lazy to go down there at the moment to check on the price of that one. But B&N's price is obviously more than a 100 percent mark up. The FractInt version that came with the second edition was 18, in case you're interested. Bob - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:39:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD 27-09-00 (Shark's Teeth [6]) FOTD -- September 27, 2000 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's discussion will have to be another short one; I'm still trying to catch up from the week I missed while lounging on the rocks, soaking up sun and spray. The ring of dagger-like features surrounding the mis-shapen midget in today's picture reminds me of a row of shark's teeth. So that's what I named it. The strangely truncated midget exists in the infinite spiral fractal created by the expression Z^1.5+C, though not in the ground level of the spiral. And for a change I did not use the MandelbrotMix4 formula to produce the scene. The MandelbrotBC formula served up an image quite worthy of being declared FOTD. I rated the picture a slightly-above-average 6, mostly because I like the somewhat unusual color effect. The render time of 7 minutes is slightly below average however, making the download from: alt.binaries.pictures.fractals or from: somewhat more efficient. The fractal weather continued rainy and quite cool today, the wetness and temperature of 55F (13C) keeping the fractal cats cooped up indoors, sulking. The philosophy continues simmering, with several days yet to go before it is finished. And for now I'm going to shut down the fractal shoppe, feed the cats, and drop into my overstuffed chair to watch a bit of TV. Until tomorrow, take care, and you'll never know what you don't know about fractals. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Sharks_Teeth { ; time=0:07:17.77 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=branchct.frm formulaname=MandelbrotBC passes=t center-mag=+0.09815658914659789/-0.54402427192828640\ /5537386/1/97.5 params=1.5/0/-0.85/0 float=y maxiter=32000 inside=0 logmap=133 periodicity=10 colors=000Hr6Ho6Gk8Gh8Gd8EaAEZAEUADSCDNC<2>CDD45C88D\ CAD<2>KEDNGDQJDTMDWNDZQDaUDeVDhX6gWDeSJdMPbHUaDZ`AdZ\ 5iX2oZ0vX0sW0rU0oT1nS1kS1iQ2gP2eN2dM4aK4`K4XJ5WH5TG5\ SE6PD6N88ND6M<3>P5MT4MW4MZ4Ma2Md2Md0Pe1Ng2Mg4Mh5Ki8K\ iAJkCJkDHlEHnHGnJGoKEpMDpNDrQCrSCsTAuUAuW8vZ8w`6wa6y\ b5za1zb4yd5<2>uhAsiCrkDplE<3>krKisMhuN<2>dySbzTazUaz\ WbzUdyUewTgwThvSiuSkuQlsQnrPopPppNroNsnMunMvlKwkKwkK\ ykKkiHWhEHgC1a62d82g82h82k82l82o82r82s82vA2wA2zA<4>2\ zA2zA6zEAzHEzMHyPKuTPrWSo`UkbZhgadidanhZpkUunSwrNzuK\ zzCzwHzsMzoSskWng`gbe``iUWoNSsGNwAJz2Ez0Cz0Gz0Kz0Pz0\ Sz0Wz0`z0bz1gz2kz4oz5<2>zzADrzzzCzzDzzEzzGzzGzyHyvJy\ sJwpKwnMsu0voCwkMygWzaezXozQuzSz<2>yWzvWzuXzsZzp`zo`\ zlazkbzhdzgdzeezbgzahzZhzXizUkz<3>SlzMgzEazGbzGdzGdz\ GezGezGgz<3>HizHizHkzHkzKiz<3>QgzMrzJrzJvz } frm:MandelbrotBC = { ; Z = Z^E + C e=p1 p=real(p2)+PI q=2*PI*trunc(p/(2*PI)) r=real(p2)-q Z=C=Pixel: Z=log(Z) IF(imag(Z)>r) Z=Z+flip(2*PI) ENDIF Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C |Z|<100 } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:47:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD 28-09-00 (Sine Wave [6]) FOTD -- September 28, 2000 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's fractal is truly different. It has none of the intricacy that surrounds the usual midgets. It has instead a smoothness that is rarely seen in the world of fractals. The obvious sine-wave shape inspired the name; the rating of 6 is my own decision. The object in the image is the 'Seahorse Valley' of the (-Z)^1.1+C Mandeloid, viewed from an oblique orientation closest to the Elliptic direction. The new formula, multirot-XZ-YW-min, is a generalized version of the old multirot-XZ-YW, which calculates (-Z) and takes advantage of the additional variable parameter entries. With a render time of a little under 3 minutes, the parameter file is slightly slow -- just slow enough to make a download of the GIF image the better choice. The download may be found on Usenet at: alt.binaries.pictures.fractals and on the Web at: The fractal weather today was near perfect, with total sunshine and a temperature of 69F (20.5C), which was completely perfect for the fractal cats. It was unfortunate for the cats that I had so little time to let them run free, but they thoroughly enjoyed themselves in the little time they did have outdoors. The fractosophy continued simmering, and will not be fully cooked until sometime next week. For now, it's time to shut the place down and call it a night. Until tomorrow, take care, and a sine wave is a sine wave. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Sine_Wave { ; time=0:02:54.23 -- SF5 on a p200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=multirot.frm formulaname=multirot-XZ-YW-min passes=t center-mag=-0.0235144/-0.756872/21.91549/0.1022/177.\ 46/-79.881 params=10/70/1.1/0/0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=bof60 logmap=178 periodicity=10 colors=000KERKEQQFQ<3>YJN_KMaMLcOKeQKhSJiUIjVHmWHlYG\ mZFmZF<25>EZDCZDBZD<2>7ZD6ZD7_E<22>UuIVvIWwJ<3>_zJ<3\ >BzL<10>SqVUpVVpW<3>`mZ<3>QVWNQVKMVHHUFDU9OY4Ya<15>b\ IpeHqgGr<3>oDu<3>Elp5to9rk<3>PlXTjTXiP<3>kcB<3>CeH<9\ >XSJZRK`QK<3>hLK<3>ieHikGipGiuFizFTZRD7b<7>OJUPKTRLS\ SNRTOPUQO<3>_RK`SJaSI<3>fTEeSD<3>a_B`aB`aB<5>W`8V`8U\ `7<3>R`6LSTGJo<18>Q9bQ8bR8a<2>S6_S6_T5`<5>U4e } frm:multirot-XZ-YW-min {; Jim Muth ; 0,0=para, 90,0=obl, 0,90=elip, 90,90=rect e=exp(flip(real(p1*.01745329251994))), f=exp(flip(imag(p1*.01745329251994))), z=f*real(pixel)+p3, c=e*imag(pixel)+p4: z=(-z)^(p2)+c, |z| <= 36 } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:22:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD 29-09-00 (Fractal Textures [6]) FOTD -- September 29, 2000 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's fractal takes us back to the M-Mix4 formula, into the world of negative powers of Z added together with 1/C. The exact expression that was calculated to create the image is - -11Z^(-1.2)-Z^(-12)+(1/C). The parent fractal is better seen than described. I might add that it comes in two large but separate sections, one of which contains a 'fan', and is filled with midgets. Today's scene is located in a shallow valley across a wide bay from the edge of the fan. I named the picture "Fractal Textures" when I noticed the unusually textured features surrounding the central midget. I rated the picture a 6 when I decided it was just the slightest above FOTD average, (which is not that high to start). Yes, I realize that the 18 minute render time is slow, so living up to my nickname of 'James the Merciful', I have posted the GIF file of the image to the binary Usenet group: alt.binaries.pictures.fractals The image is also available on the Web at: The fractal weather today was once again perfect, with sunny skies and a temperature of 74F (23C); and once again I was too busy to give the fractal cats their customary time outdoors. Forced to satisfy themselves with a mere 20 minutes, they passed the afternoon on their shelf by the window, watching and wishing. However they cheered up quite a bit this evening when I divided a can of tuna between them. There was too much work to allow philosophy this day. I expect little slack until the middle of next week, but the philosophical wisdom is building, and when it finally breaks loose, who knows what may happen. All that will happen now however is that I'll relax for the rest of the evening, and comfort the cats as I watch the telly. Until tomorrow, take much care, and beware of hit and run fractals. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Fractal_Textures { ; time=0:18:54.21 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+3.18432119357118300/+0.06072698271933991\ /718007.4/1/-172.5 params=-11/-1.2/-1/-12/0/800 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=0 logmap=146 periodicity=9 colors=000czz`zz<2>XxzVxzTvzSvzQuzOuzMszLszJrzIpzGpz\ FozDozAmz9mz7ly6ly4jy3jx1ix0ix<2>0dj0cf0ac0`_0_V0YQ0\ YO<2>0TA0S60Q30P00O00M00M00O00P00P04Q49Q9DSDGSILTMPV\ QTVVYXYaXafYfiYjm_or`sv`xzazzazzczzczzdzzdzzfzzfzzgz\ zgzzizyizvjzujzslzrlyplxomvmmvlouiosgprfppdrpcrmasj`\ ugYvdXxaTy_SvXPuXOrXMpXJmXIjVGiVDfVCdV9aV7`V6YT3VT1T\ T0QT0PT0MT0LT3MPAMMJOJQOGYTLf_PgdTgjYaraXvfQzjLzoFzs\ 7zx0zz<3>0zz0zy0zx0zv1zv<3>7zp9zoAzmCzlDzjFzjCzfAyc9\ x_6xX4vT3uP0sM0sI0rF0pC0o70o40m00l00l00m00o00o10p30r\ 60r70s90sC0uD0vG0vI0xL0yM0yO1zQ3zS4zV4zX6z_7z`7zaCzY\ <3>OzMQzJVzF<3>fz3iz0jx6lpAmiGocLpXQrPVsI`uCdv4jx0oy\ 0sv0m<2>r0_p0Vm1Q<2>i6Cg77fA9<3>fLAfOAfQCfSCfVCdYDd`\ DdaDddF<3>doGdrGdsGcuFavF`vF`vD_vDYvDYvCXvCVvCVvATvA\ SvASv9Qv9Pv9Pv7Ov7Mv7Mv7OvAPvCQvDSvF<3>TvF } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:17:45 -0500 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: (fractint) Bug report & truecolor. > When I first tried > to use the former, I got an obscure error message about handles. I > did a mental calculation and realized that though Fractint was on a > disk drive with over 180 megabytes free, it would need over 300. > With disk space freed up by moving files to the other drive, it > worked. The error message needs improving I think. I'll see what can be done. > Also, it seems > reasonable to allow the user to specify where to put temp files, > so people with multiple hard drives and/or large removable r/w media > can pick the most convenient place. Of course! If you look very carefully in the docs, you'll find that this is already possible. If you can't find it, let me know and I'll point you in the right direction. > The bug happened with the latter disk-video > mode, where a tesseral image was "completed" according to all > indications, but the image that I got when I then hit 's' was only > 2048x1536 and the fourth and part of the third tesseral quadrant were > not, in fact, completed. Using the default mandel and a 5000x4000 mode, I couldn't reproduce this. Try it with version 20.1, and let me know if the bug is still there. > Question -- what's the status of truecolor development? I haven't > heard anything about it in ages and version 20.0 is getting stale. > It's a year old! I have a version that can use truecolor. It's still a little rough and there is still a lot of work that needs to be done before it can be released (even as a developer's version). Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:03:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD 30-09-00 (A Fractal Birthing [7]) FOTD -- September 30, 2000 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's spectacular but mis-shapen little midget exists in the fractal that results from iterating the formula Z^1.2+C. It's a lively scene, reminiscent of the heaving earth at the time the planet was still molten, though instead of fiery reds the scene boasts an incongruous palette of serene deep blues. As I examined the picture, I had the impression of a great thing happening. I decided that the midget, or perhaps the earth itself, was just being born. I named the picture "A Fractal Birthing". The exponent of Z in today's scene is 1.2. As exponents of Z fall farther below 2, the midgets in the Mandeloids become progressively more difficult to find, not only because they become much smaller, but also because they are not surrounded by the symmetrical features that point to pure quadratic midgets. By the time the exponent drops to 1.5, the midgets are nearly impossible to locate, so finding a Mandel midget in the fractal created by an exponent of 1.2 is a real achievement. Actually, the only midget I could find was the one on the negative tail. Yes, I realize that the Z^1.2+C Mandeloid has no negative tail, but this is only when the ground floor of the infinite spiral is examined. The MandelbrotBC formula, which I used to calculate today's scene, draws the more remote parts of the spiral, and it is in these remote parts of the spiral that a kind of tail exists. Since the tail zig-zags off in a northeast direction, it would be more appropriate to call it a positive tail. But regardless of what it is called, the tail has one very prominent midget on it. This midget appears in today's FOTD, which I rated a 7. The parameter file's render time of 15 minutes is nearly totally expended on calculating the shoreline of the high-maxiter midget. The unusually high maxiter of 250,000 is needed to sharply define the edges of the midget, which become quite diffuse at a lower maxiter. The image file has been posted as always to Usenet at: alt.binaries.pictures.fractals and to the Web at: The fractal weather today here at fractal central was once again perfect, with totally clear skies and a temperature of 68F (20C). The fractal cats approved of the conditions by spending nearly an hour lounging in the yard. With much work and housebound cats, I had no time to write philosophy today. But the time of the revelation draws ever closer, so keep checking for imminent enlightenment. (IMO of course.) For this evening, the fractal shoppe is now closing. But it will open again tomorrow, with another FOTD and at least a few words about the image. Until then, take much care, and two fractals at bedtime guarantee a good night's sleep. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ A_Fractal_Birthing { ; time=0:15:10.94 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=branchct.frm formulaname=MandelbrotBC center-mag=+0.0809888879629\ 3256/+9.393661595475319/101.5492/1/7.499 params=1.2/0/7.06/0 float=y maxiter=250000 inside=0 logmap=24 periodicity=10 colors=00090D70D<3>20J10L00M00O10P<2>90UC0VE2XH4ZL5`\ M6aM7cO9dOAePCgPDhREjREkRGmTHoTJpULrUMsWOuWPwWPwYUuY\ _uYdsYisYoqYuqYzqYysYyuYwwYwyYwyTzsOznJzgGzfDzdAzd9z\ b6zb4z`1z`0z_0z_0zY0zY0yW0wW0wW0uW0uW0sU0qU0qU0oU0oU\ 0nT0lT0lT0iT0iT5gPAfMFfLKdHPbEUbDZ`Ac`9h_6mY4rY2wW0z\ W0wY0rY0mY0h_1<3>P`2L`2O`2R`2UcHXfK<4>kuKmwPmzLmzGgz\ C_z7Wz4Tz0Pz0Mz0Oz0Pz1<3>WzHYzM_zR`zW<3>gzqizwizzgzs\ gzngzgfzbfzYfzRdzMdzHdzDbz9bz4bz0`z0`z0`z0bz0bz2bz9b\ zGdzPXzY<2>ezy<2>nzPqzGtz6wz0zz0zz0zz0zz2zz6zzA<3>zz\ TzzYzzbzzW<2>zzDzz7zz2zz0<9>zz0zz0zz0<2>zz0zz0zz2<2>\ zzJ<3>zzlzzszzzzznzz`zzPzzEzz5zz0<13>zz0<3>zz0zz1zz5\ zz7zzCzzEzzJzzMzzRzzUzz_zzb<3>zzuzzzzzozzdzzUzzLzz7<\ 5>zzL } frm:MandelbrotBC = { ; Z = Z^E + C e=p1 p=real(p2)+PI q=2*PI*trunc(p/(2*PI)) r=real(p2)-q Z=C=Pixel: Z=log(Z) IF(imag(Z)>r) Z=Z+flip(2*PI) ENDIF Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C |Z|<100 } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 02:47:11 EDT From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: Re: (fractint) Bug report & truecolor. >Of course! If you look very carefully in the docs, you'll find that this >is >already possible. If you can't find it, let me know and I'll point you in >the right direction. I should have guessed. Some sstools.ini setting perhaps? >Using the default mandel and a 5000x4000 mode, I couldn't reproduce this. Wasn't an exact reproduction. Try this -- open fractint.cfg, copy the first 1024x768 disk video line directly beneath it, change the key on the copy to AF9 and the resolution numbers to 4096 and 3072 without changing anything else, and then try to generate an image in that mode. I got a 2048x1536 image with blank areas. I'd be interested to know what you get. The bug could be sensitive to the exact resolution in question. >Try it with version 20.1, and let me know if the bug is still there. Version 20.1?! What version 20.1?! I dropped by Spanky just after discovering this bug to see if a newer version was available (and to track down the link to the bug list page). It still listed 20.0 as the latest version. I'll check again in a mo, but it seems you might have a prerelease development version. In that case, reproducing the bug may require using 20.0. (Of course, if so, this might mean it got fixed...) >I have a version that can use truecolor. It's still a little rough and >there is still a lot of work that needs to be done before it can be >released >(even as a developer's version). So it is a prerelease alpha you're using. I wouldn't be surprised if you fixed or changed the bug accidentally while modifying it (or someone did) for truecolor. Incidentally, you did use 5000x4000x8bpp and not higher when trying to reproduce the bug I hope? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 02:50:31 EDT From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: (fractint) Fractint 20.1 does not exist! Confirmed @ spanky -- the latest release version is 20.0. Don't know where the suggestion to "use 20.1" came from -- out in left field is my guess... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 03:19:11 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 20.1 does not exist! Multiple Bogeys wrote: > > Confirmed @ spanky -- the latest release > version is 20.0. Don't know where the > suggestion to "use 20.1" came from -- out > in left field is my guess... > Try the following: http://www.fractint.org/ftp/ P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 03:29:30 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Bug report & truecolor. Multiple Bogeys wrote: > > Jonathan Osuch wrote: > > > > Of course! If you look very carefully in the docs, > > you'll find that this is already possible. If you > > can't find it, let me know and I'll point you in > > the right direction. > > I should have guessed. Some sstools.ini setting perhaps? > Most things can be set in that configuration file: [fractint] ; ;------------Startup Parameters---------------- ; TEMPDIR=C:\Temp\ WORKDIR=F:\Fracta~1\FractInt\Work\ ; FILENAME=G:\Artwork\GIF_s\Fractals\Ooooo\*.gif ; CURDIR=yes ; MAKEPAR=parfile/entryname COMMENT=_(c)_Paul_N._Lee_--_$date$_-_$time$/time=$calctime$_on_a_PIII-750_at_$xdots$x$ydots$/using_FractInt_$version$.$patch$/__ ; BATCH=yes ; AUTOKEY=play|record AUTOKEYNAME=F:\Fracta~1\FractInt\KEY_s\auto.key ; MAKEDOC=Fractint.doc MAXHISTORY=20 ; FPU=387|iit|noiit ; ; ;------------Calculation Mode Parameters------- ; PASSES=t ; 1|2|3|g|g1|g2|g3|g4|g5|g6|b|t ; FILLCOLOR=normal| ; FLOAT=yes ; SYMMETRY=xxx ; Forces symmetry to None, Xaxis, Yaxis, XYaxis, Origin, or Pi symmetry. ; ; ;------------Fractal Type Parameters----------- ; TYPE=mandel ; formula, julia, etc.... ; PARAMS=n/n/n/n... ; FUNCTION=[fn1[/fn2[/fn3[/fn4]]]] ; FORMULANAME=[formulaname] ; LNAME=[lsystemname] ; IFS=[ifsname] ; ; ;------------Image Calculation Parameters------ ; MAXITER=150 ; Values range from 2 to 2147483647, default is 150. ; CORNERS=[xmin/xmax/ymin/ymax[/x3rd/y3rd]] ; CENTER-MAG=[Xctr/Yctr/Mag[/Xmagfactor/Rotation/Skew]] ; BAILOUT=nnn ; BAILOUTEST=mod|real|imag|or|and|manh|manr ; RESET ; INITORBIT=pixel|nnn/nnn ; ORBITDELAY= ; SHOWORBIT=yes|no ; PERIODICITY=no|show|nnn ; RSEED=nnnn ; SHOWDOT=[auto|bright|medium|dark|[/]] ; ASPECTDRIFT= ; ; ;------------Color Parameters------------------ ; ; INSIDE=nnn|bof60|bof61|zmag|attractor|epscross|startrail|period ; OUTSIDE=nnn|iter|real|imag|summ|mult|atan MAP=F:\Fracta~1\FractInt\MAP_s\ ; COLORS=@filename|colorspecification RECORDCOLORS=comment ; auto|comment|yes ; CYCLERANGE=nnn/nnn CYCLELIMIT=55 ; values are 1 - 256, default is 55. TEXTCOLORS=1F/1A/2E/70/28/71/31/78/70/17/1F/1E/2F/3F/5F/07/0D/71/70/78/0F/70/0E/0F/4F/20/17/20/28/0F/07 ; mono | 31 seperate values. ; OLDDEMMCOLORS=yes|no ; TRUECOLOR=yes ; ; ;------------Doodad Parameters----------------- ; ; LOGMAP=yes|old|n ; LOGMODE=fly/table ; RANGES=nn/nn/nn/... ; DISTEST=nnn/nnn ; DECOMP=2|4|8|16|32|64|128|256 ; BIOMORPH=nnn ; POTENTIAL=maxcolor[/slope[/modulus[/16bit]]] ; INVERT=nn/nn/nn ; FINATTRACT=no|yes ; EXITNOASK=yes ; ; ;------------File Parameters------------------- ; SAVENAME=F:\Fracta~1\FractInt\GIF_s\fract001.gif OVERWRITE=no ; no|yes ; SAVETIME=nnn|-nnn ; GIF87a=yes ; DITHER=yes PARMFILE=F:\Fracta~1\FractInt\PAR_s\*.par FORMULAFILE=F:\Fracta~1\FractInt\FRM_s\*.frm LFILE=F:\Fracta~1\FractInt\L_s\*.l IFSFILE=F:\Fracta~1\FractInt\IFS_s\*.ifs ; FILENAME=[.suffix] ; ORBITSAVE=yes ; ; ;------------Video Parameters------------------ ; VIDEO=SF5 ;640x480 @ 256 ; VIDEO=SF6 ;800x600 @ 256 ; VIDEO=SF7 ;1024x768 @ 256 ; VIDEO=SF8 ;1280x1024 @ 16 ; VIDEO=SF9 ;1280x1024 @ 256 ; ASKVIDEO=yes|no ; ADAPTER=hgc|cga|ega|egamono|mcga|vga|ATI|Everex|Trident|NCR|Video7|Genoa|Paradise|Chipstech|Tseng3000|Tseng4000|AheadA|AheadB|Oaktech ; VESADETECT=yes|no ; AFI=yes|8514|no TEXTSAFE=save ; yes|no|bios|save ; EXITMODE=nn ; TPLUS=yes|no ; NONINTERLACED=yes|no ; MAXCOLORRES=8|16|24 ; PIXELZOOM=0|1|2|3 ; VIEWWINDOWS=xx[/xx[/yes|no[/nn[/nn]]]] ; FASTRESTORE=yes|no ;Default is NO. If YES, resets VIEWWINDOWS to "no" prior to restoring a gif file. ; ;------------Sound Parameters------------------ ; ; SOUND=off|x|y|z ; HERTZ=nnn ; ORBITSAVE=sound ; ; ;------------Printer Parameters---------------- ; ; PRINTER=type[/resolution[/port#]] ; COMPORT=port/baud/options ; LINEFEED=crlf|lf|cr ; TITLE=yes ; PRINTFILE=filename ; ; ;------------PostScript Parameters------------- ; ; EPSF=1|2|3 ; COLORPS=yes|no ; RLEPS=yes|no ; TRANSLATE=yes|-n|n ; HALFTONE=frq/ang/sty[/f/a/s/f/a/s/f/a/s] ; ; ;------------PaintJet Parameters--------------- ; ; HALFTONE=r/g/b ; ; ;------------Plotter Parameters---------------- ; ; PLOTSTYLE=0|1|2 ; ; ;------------3D Parameters--------------------- ; ; 3D=Yes|Overlay ; RANDOMIZE=nnn ; (0 - 100) ; AMBIENT=nnn ; (0 - 100) ; FULLCOLOR=yes ; HAZE=nnn ; (0 - 100) ; LIGHTNAME= ; MONITORWIDTH= ; PREVIEW=yes Turns on 3D 'preview' default mode ; SHOWBOX=yes Turns on 3D 'showbox' default mode ; COARSE=nn Sets Preview 'coarseness' default value ; SPHERE=yes Turns on spherical projection mode ; STEREO=n Selects the type of stereo image creation ; RAY=nnn selects raytrace output file format ; BRIEF=yes selects brief or verbose file for DKB output ; USEGRAYSCALE=yes use grayscale as depth instead of color number ; INTEROCULAR=nn Sets the interocular distance for stereo ; CONVERGE=nn Determines the overall image separation ; CROP=nn/nn/nn/nn Trims the edges off stereo pairs ; BRIGHT=nn/nn Compensates funny glasses filter parameters ; LONGITUDE=nn/nn Longitude minimum and maximum ; LATITUDE=nn/nn Latitude minimum and maximum ; RADIUS=nn Radius scale factor ; ROTATION=nn[/nn[/nn]] Rotation about x,y, and z axes ; SCALEZYZ=nn/nn/nn X,y,and z scale factors ; ROUGHNESS=nn Same as z scale factor ; WATERLINE=nn Colors nn and below will be "inside" color ; FILLTYPE=nn 3D filltype ; PERSPECTIVE=nn Perspective distance ; XYSHIFT=nn/nn Shift image in x and y directions with perspective ; LIGHTSOURCE=nn/nn/nn Coordinates for light-source vector ; SMOOTHING=nn Smooths images in light-source fill modes ; TRANSPARENT=min/max Defines a range of colors to be treated as "transparent" when <#>Overlaying 3D images. ; XYADJUST=nn/nn This shifts the image in the x/y dir without perspective ; ; ;-------------Batch Mode----------------------- P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 07:51:37 -0500 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: (fractint) Bug report & truecolor. > Wasn't an exact reproduction. Try this -- open fractint.cfg, copy the first > 1024x768 disk video line directly beneath it, change the key on the copy to > AF9 and the resolution numbers to 4096 and 3072 without changing anything > else, and then try to generate an image in that mode. > I got a 2048x1536 image with blank areas. I'd be interested to know what you > get. The bug could be sensitive to the exact resolution in question. It still works fine with the default mandel, using either version 20.0 or 20.1. Could you provide a PAR of the image you are having trouble with? > So it is a prerelease alpha you're using. I wouldn't be surprised if you > fixed or changed the bug accidentally while modifying it (or someone did) > for truecolor. Incidentally, you did use 5000x4000x8bpp and not higher when > trying to reproduce the bug I hope? Not exactly. The truecolor version is a port of Xfractint. Unless there are specific Xfractint questions I always use the DOS version. The DOS developer's version is currently at version 20.1. I incremented the version number so that backwards compatibility for inside=fmod would work. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 15:22:44 +0200 From: Guy Marson Subject: Re: (fractint) Bug report & truecolor. At 03:29 30/09/00 -0500, you wrote: >Multiple Bogeys wrote: >> >> Jonathan Osuch wrote: >> > >> > Of course! If you look very carefully in the docs, >> > you'll find that this is already possible. If you >> > can't find it, let me know and I'll point you in >> > the right direction. >> >> I should have guessed. Some sstools.ini setting perhaps? >> > >Most things can be set in that configuration file: ....... Congratulations, never seen such a big sstools.ini! Hard to understand that it works! Ouuufff.. cheers, Guy - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #497 ******************************