From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #511 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Thursday, November 23 2000 Volume 01 : Number 511 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:16:18 -0300 From: "Rafael Lepra" Subject: (fractint) RE: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C05276.57B3E5C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will never open the attached file without knowing you. Rafael Lepra -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]En nombre de osher@ix.netcom.com Enviado el: Viernes 17 de Noviembre de 2000 05:16 PM Asunto: - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C05276.57B3E5C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C05276.57B3E5C0-- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:25:46 EST From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: >Go back and reread the messages. I made no comment on you personally. >I posted a response that said my experience differed from yours. >Several others also posted that their experience did not agree with >you. I never said anything about you lying, or being wrong with >what you observed. Sophistry. Pure sophistry. You and I both know that either 2.04 crashes frequently or it doesn't, and that nobody is likely to be mistaken in their belief about which it does if they have used it for any length of time. So either everyone who says it crashes a lot is lying, or everyone who says it doesn't is lying. We can't both be right, not unless there are two *different* UltraFractal 2.04s out there! So whereas you may not have explicitly called me a liar, you sure as hell implied it. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:28:08 +1300 From: Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Multiple Bogeys said: > > Sophistry. Pure sophistry. You and I both know that either 2.04 crashes > frequently or it doesn't, > I'm sorry, I didn't realise I'd accidentally subscribed to the Ultrafractal list. Morgan L. Owens "You _don't_ mean 20.4, do you." - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:30:42 EST From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.1.03 >A new command line option has >been added, nobof=yes, which causes the inside=bof60 and bof61 options to >NOT recreate the images from the book of the same name. This makes the >behavior of these two inside options the same as the other inside options. Could you please elaborate on this? How is it that they currently don't behave the same as the other inside options? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:48:45 -0800 From: "Jason Hine" Subject: (fractint) SOI and LogMap? Folks, I've been playing with the SOI implementation at 20.0, and I'm delighted. Huge kudos to Michael Ganss and all those who worked on getting this into Fractint! I'll apologize in advance for asking a question that's likley been asked dozens of times on this list already: is it possible to use the SOI drawing method in conjunction with a logmap palette? If not, I'd like to make that an enhancement request... might this already have been done in a more recent build? Might there be another way to accomplish the same thing, perhaps by creating a truecolor=yes Targa and manipulating the pixel values in another image editing software? Has anyone found any workarounds? Thanks for the fracts, Jason - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:59:41 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: (fractint) SOI and LogMap? Jason wrote: > I've been playing with the SOI implementation at 20.0, and I'm delighted. Huge > kudos to Michael Ganss and all those who worked on getting this into Fractint! I integrated SOI (Synchronous Orbits - a technique for greartly accelerating speed of deep zooms) into Fractint. > I'll apologize in advance for asking a question that's likley been asked dozens > of times on this list already: is it possible to use the SOI drawing method in > conjunction with a logmap palette? SOI is rather loosely integrated with Fractint. Most normal fractint options have no effect. SOI in fractint is almost like a standalone program, that just has a simple escape-time coloring algorithm with few if any options that work with other fractal methods. If fractint manages to continue to evolve (we are in a situation now where Jonathan Osuch is the only one working on it, so development consists only in what Jonathan is able to do), enhancing SOI and integrating it better with Fractint would be high on a to do list. Since SOI is only valuable right at the limit of zooming of double precision, a really interesting thing to do would be to extend SOI to arbitrary precision. This might make deep zooming explorartion more feasible. Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:28:21 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 20-11-00 (Cut-outs [4]) Classic FOTD -- November 20, 2000 (Rating 4) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: I have little to say about today's unassuming image. It's a somber picture, with the overall gloom somewhat offset by the brilliant midget at the center. The rings of perfectly-shaped holes surrounding the midget inspired the name "Cut-outs". After studying the image for several minutes, I decided that it rated no more than a 4. The parameter file's fast render time of 3 minutes makes up for the slightly below average rating of the image. If this is still too slow, the GIF file may be found pre-rendered and ready for download at: and at: The fractal weather today was cloudy and cold, with a temperature of 36F (2C) that was far too chilly for the disappointed fractal cats. Since it will be even colder for the rest of the week, the cats will have to stay disappointed. As for myself, I'm shutting down the fractal shoppe and calling it a night. Until next time, take care, and who put those holes in my fractal? Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Cut-outs { ; time=0:03:19.87 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+0.49255346013993960/-14.3928154883796000\ 0/570410/1/67.5 params=1/1.618034/1/16.18034/0.3/0 float=y maxiter=1400 inside=0 logmap=49 periodicity=9 colors=000<3>00003106607A<3>0JS0MX0Q`0Xd0ai0imOpsgrz\ mssgpmcmiYlcSl_OjTIjPCiJ7iFCfJGcOL`SP_XSX`XTd`SidPmg\ MrlLvpIzuFzxDzvIzvLzvOyvQuvTrvYov`j<3>vmYvpVvsQvvOvy\ LvzI<2>ddJ_YJTQJ<2>C4J60J10J70OC6QGDTLLX<3>amifulzs0\ zm0ug0pa0jX0dQ0`L0_sxdpviouolssjrxirfjCdfGcaJa_M`VP_\ STYOXXJ_VGaTCfS9iQ4lP1oL9gIFaDLXASP6YJ3cD9`IFYLJVPPT\ STXV___caaiddogisjlymo<2>zvyzyzzzzyzzuzzozz<3>YzzTzy\ QzrMzlIzfFz_AzT7zO4zL3zI1zF<3>0z30z00z3<4>0zA0zC0zF<\ 3>1zL1zM1zO<2>0zG0zD0zC<2>0z40z10z00z00z04z0Dz1Mz3Vz\ 6dz9mzAvzDzzFyzCszAmz9gz7az4Xz3Qz1<2>9z03z00z00z07z3\ <2>sz`rzdrzgrzjpzmpzppzsozxozzozzmzzmzzmzzmzzozz<2>p\ zzpzzrzzrzzrzyszvszuszsdzmQzgDzcOzVYzOgzFrz7YzADzD<2\ >4zQ1zV0z_<2>0zlLzamzT0zpAzoOzm_zllzjxzj7z00z0<7>0z0 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:06:08 +0100 From: Guy Marson Subject: Re: (fractint) SOI and LogMap? At 19:59 19/11/00 -0600, you wrote: >Jason wrote: > >> I've been playing with the SOI implementation at 20.0, and I'm delighted. Huge >> kudos to Michael Ganss and all those who worked on getting this into Fractint! > .... >If fractint manages to continue to evolve (we are in a situation now >where Jonathan Osuch is the only one working on it, so >development consists only in what Jonathan is able to do), >enhancing SOI and integrating it better with Fractint would be high >on a to do list. he, give us some examples.. where are some .par's of it? Here is another request: Is it possible to implement ?Sylvie Gallet's "ismand" feature (the lake like fractals) into fractint (into the x,y or z screen) so that "ismand" can bee applyed on every fractal typ? > >Since SOI is only valuable right at the limit of zooming of double >precision, a really interesting thing to do would be to extend SOI to >arbitrary precision. This might make deep zooming explorartion >more feasible. > >Tim > > I got one more question: Why is there such a big jump in the following [bailout.par] when amounting the bailout from 113 to 114? There are no changements <113 and >114. On other Bailout Tests are other values but the same jumps.. no changements before and after a certain value. 0-mod-113 { ; Version 2001 Patchlevel 1 reset=2001 type=julibrot julibrotfromto=-1/-1/0/0 julibrot3d=128/1220/60/5/10/24 julibroteyes=-5.05 orbitname=julzpower 3dmode=lefteye center-mag=0/0/25/1.0003 params=0/0/4/0 maxiter=6 bailout=113 viewwindows=4.2/0.75/yes/0/0 colors=@altern.map } 0-mod-114 { ; Version 2001 Patchlevel 1 reset=2001 type=julibrot julibrotfromto=-1/-1/0/0 julibrot3d=128/1220/60/5/10/24 julibroteyes=-5.05 orbitname=julzpower 3dmode=lefteye center-mag=-0/0/25/1.0003 params=0/0/4/0 maxiter=6 bailout=114 viewwindows=4.2/0.75/yes/0/0 colors=@altern.map } Both are 3d-fractals for crossed-eyes viewing.. **** Remember: the floating point must be switched of! **** Cheers, Guy - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:15:48 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 21-11-00 (Fantasia in Red [6]) Classic FOTD -- November 21, 2000 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: The formula 2Z^(-1.111)+2Z^(-16.67)+(1/C) is behind today's fractal, which I decided to name "Fantasia in Red" and rate a slightly above average 6. There's not much to be said about the image, which speaks for itself. So I'll not say much, except to tell that the parameter file is a rather slow one, taking almost 14 minutes to render. To avoid impatience, I recommend downloading the GIF image from: or from: The fractal weather today was partly cloudy with a temperature of 50F (10C) -- enjoyable outdoor conditions for the cats. But an intense squall struck in the afternoon, with a dramatic drop in the temperature and flurries of snow that sent the dynamic duo scurrying indoors. And I'm out of energy and about to scurry for my favorite chair. The philosophy didn't even come close today. Maybe I'm all philosophized out. Regardless, we'll have another fractal tomorrow at the regular time. Until then, take care, and realize that fractal images exist only because we wish them to. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Fantasia_in_Red { ; time=0:13:47.22 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+70.00933328451245000/+43.860611755854760\ 00/130806.7/1/-107.5 params=1/-1.111/1/-16.67/1/400 float=y maxiter=1200 inside=0 logmap=159 periodicity=9 colors=000AFH<3>EITEIVFIX<2>HI`HJbIIc<3>KHiKHjLGk<2>\ MFpNFqLDt<4>SKnTLlUMkWOj<2>ZQg<2>TL_SKYQKV<3>JHMHGJG\ FH<3>9C7CB5FA1IB3LB4OC5RE6<3>bGAeGChHDkHE<2>vIHyIIzL\ MyIJuGGrEDmB9<3>YFGUGIRHJPHLNINLJYKKdILfGMgENiEPaDN_\ CJQCFG<5>QELSDLUDM<2>`DObDPeEO<12>aATaATaAT<3>`9U<3>\ HNiCQm8Tq<3>UjVZnPcrJixD<13>cdRbcSbbT<3>`XX`YW<3>Ta_\ Rb`IYP6TB<8>QVVSVXVVZ<3>bVf<7>JidHkdEmd<3>5td<3>WvFb\ v8hv2<12>jM9jJAjGA<3>j5CeLR`NeXPt<3>`Xh`Zfa`c<3>dhT<\ 3>Xp_VraTtbRvdPxeXztdzueztfzsszVuzTvzRszSMzb<5>Azl7z\ x<2>AzU } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:52:58 -0500 From: "Barry N. Merenoff" <110144.2274@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Don't you get it? There's something wrong with your computer that prevent= s it from running UltraFractal. Other people can run UltraFractal because their computers don't have the problem yours has. Why don't you find someone who can help you clear up the problem, instead of naysaying everyone who tries to mention it to you? - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:53:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 22-11-00 (Another Starfish [6]) Classic FOTD -- November 22, 2000 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: I've got little to say again today. The reason is that I'm kind of depressed and disillusioned by the national events. I get these spells every now and then, but this is an unusually deep one. Regardless, I did work up the enthusiasm to find a fractal image today. I found it in the fractal that is created by the formula Z^(-1.123)-Z^1.123+(1/C), which I chose purely on a whim. I named the picture "Another Starfish". I gave it this name because I believe I have already named an FOTD "Starfish". When I saw the finished product, I rated it a 6, which is a bit above average. The draw time of the parameter file is a slow 13 minutes, making a download of the image file far more time efficient. The download can be found at: and in a couple hours at: The fractal weather today was windy and cold, with a temperature of 38F (3C) that was far too chilly for the fractal cats. They responded by spending the day by the radiators of their choice. When I'm in this kind of a down mood, I can't philosophize, so we have no philosophy today, (not that it's missed). But all things eventually come to an end, and eventually I'll find the inspiration to spread my philosophy once again. That's it for today. Until tomorrow, take care, and be patient. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Another_Starfish { ; time=0:12:55.93 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.257674116207993/-0.133877987035905/4.8\ 38896e+009/1/130 params=-1/1.123/1/-1.123/0/0 float=y maxiter=1600 inside=0 logmap=218 periodicity=10 colors=000KFFKFFMGJ<3>NMZUNbQOf`Qj`RnjSsmUwpUysUwpUt\ mUqfUp`UmUUjQUi<2>FUaEU`EUYCUVBUUBVR9XO9YN1YV0Ya0`Z0\ aY1dX4eV7fU8iSBjQEmOFnNIpMKsKMtJOzMRxFSzaVzCYzfZz9Yz\ fYy8Yx7Yu7YuBYt5Xp4Xm4Xl3Xh3Xh1Xf1Xe1`f7dhBhjFmmJsnO\ wqSztXzw`zxdztespfjmhbiiUfdMbZF`U8XU1UUFdUSmUewUqzFp\ zJnzN<2>lzZlzbjzfizjiznhzsfzwfzyeztdypdulbqhbmdai`ae\ V`aR`YNZUJ<2>YI7`G8aF9bE9dCBeBBf9Ch8Ci7Ej5El4Fm3Fp1G\ q0I<3>w0Kx0Ky0M<3>z0Oz0Oy0Q<3>t0Ss0Sq0Up0Un1Vm3Vl4Xj\ 4Xi5Yh7Yf8Ze8Zd9`bB`aCa`CaZBYYBVXBSXBQVBNUBKSBIS9FR9\ CQ99O97O94N91M90M90NB0<2>OB0OB1QB3<2>RC5RC5RC7SC8SC8\ UC9UEBUEBVECVEEVEEXEFXEGXEGVIEUKCUNBSQ9SU8UX5VZ4Xa3Y\ e1Zh0`j0<2>dt0ew0fy0hz0iw0jq0lt0mt3nt7pt9qtEstG<3>xt\ UztYzt`<2>zxdzyezzezz`zzXzzRzzNzzIzzEzz8zz4zz0<2>zz0\ <3>zz9zzCzzFzzIzzJzzMzzF<4>zzF } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:49:16 -0500 From: Gedeon Subject: (fractint) updated website This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0540D.469BD660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I invite you to visit my Euler Gallery, Pages 1 & 2, where I have = uploaded 16 new images. 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- ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0540D.469BD660-- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 01:19:00 -0500 From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 21-11-00 (Fantasia in Red [6]) I hate to say it but something's wrong with the FOTD again -- and it isn't just some delay. The individual FOTDs are there (at least, those that are in my browser history still -- including ones not cached anymore), but the index page http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html is 404. This looks like a case of vandalism. I suggest you re-upload the index page and hit your ISP's customer service people over the head with the Cloobat(tm). Your ISP obviously hasn't been keeping the security patches of their Web server up to date, or else one of their employees is disgruntled and committing acts of sabotage. If the ISP does not respond to your complaints in a satisfactory manner I suggest changing to another provider. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 01:26:37 -0500 From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: >Don't you get it? There's something wrong with your computer that prevents >it from running UltraFractal. Yeah, right. Everything else works, just not UltraFractal. If something were wrong with the machine or the OS, nothing would work, or at least lots of things wouldn't work. If a single app isn't working, and everything else works fine, I'm forced to conclude that the app is the problem, and not the system. I am aware that memory or overheating errors often don't show themselves until you do something really compute-intensive, such as compiling a Linux kernel. However, I run stuff that stresses the system a lot more than UltraFractal does -- Quake grinds the cpu, memory, and video system hard, Fractint really grinds the cpu, etc. Also, I run Prime95 -- if there were a memory fault or a similar problem, it would be showing up as errors there. Prime95 plays with all of the memory on the machine, and is very sensitive to memory/cpu problems. As for OS problems or video problems, they'd affect every graphical app on my system. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 05:34:12 -0500 From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 21-11-00 (Fantasia in Red [6]) At 01:19 AM 11/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I hate to say it but something's wrong with the FOTD again -- and it isn't >just some delay. The individual FOTDs are there (at least, those that are in >my browser history still -- including ones not cached anymore), but the >index page http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html is 404. This looks >like a case of vandalism. I suggest you re-upload the index page and hit >your ISP's customer service people over the head with the Cloobat(tm). Your >ISP obviously hasn't been keeping the security patches of their Web server >up to date, or else one of their employees is disgruntled and committing >acts of sabotage. If the ISP does not respond to your complaints in a >satisfactory manner I suggest changing to another provider. Strange - worked for me, right from the link given above. davides@pipeline.com Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.... Teach a man to fish and he spends his whole day drinking beer!!! - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:11:57 -0800 From: "Osher Doctorow" Subject: (fractint) Virus cleaned out - thanks for warning - Doctorow From: Osher Doctorow, Ph.D. osher@ix.netcom.com, Wed. Nov. 22, 2000, 3:10PM Thanks to warning from fractint and its affiliates in charge of virus protection, I was able to eliminate my computer's virus within 48 hours. It had infected the entire Windows 98, which required re-installing a new version of Windows 98. I now have a virus protection which I update every few days. According to computer experts, viruses are so frequent in the USA that antivirus (AV) programs need to be updated every week. I had previously (about a year ago) been infected by a Kak virus, which was cleaned out but left behind an alteration in my registration and signature components and gave occasional false alarms. Windows is especially susceptible to the Kak virus. It is a curious fact that I sent an email to fractint concerning mathematics in studying biological/medical viruses when the virus hit my computer, but it is also a good example of the fact that people should not be assumed to be guilty even when coincidences occur (which they do more often than is generally believed). If anybody had bothered to ask me, I would have told them that I have never been a computer programmer or computer engineer (I do consult in mathematics/statistics and physics) and therefore could not possibly create a computer virus. They could have checked my employment references. What I am guilty of is belonging to very many internet discussion groups/mailing lists, and presumably that is where I got the virus on both occasions (although I have also run into "flames", so there is more than one route to get a virus theoretically). The benefit of belonging to such groups is that I am more inspired to do creative research in mathematics, and I will try to continue along that path. Osher Doctorow - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:39:58 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 23-11-00 (Fractalesque [7]) Classic FOTD -- November 23, 2000 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: A descriptive name for today's fractal eluded me, so I settled on the generic title "Fractalesque". The name has a rather festive sound to it, which goes along with the festive appearance of the image. And it's better than no name at all. Due to the unusual blue and orange elements surrounding the brilliantly decorated central midget, I raised my rating from 6 to 7. The formula behind the image is Z^1.5+0.1Z^(-15)+(1/C), another of the totally whimsical expressions I conjure up while using the MandelbrotMix4 formula. The parameter file renders in 9-1/2 minutes, a time long enough to make a download of the GIF image file the better choice. And speaking of a download, the file may be found on Usenet at: and on the W.W.W. at: The fractal weather today here at Fractal Central was sunny but quite cold. The temperature of 30F (-1C) was far too chilly for the fractal cats, who slept curled by the radiators most all day. I've still got more fractal image inspiration than literary inspiration, so there will be no philosophy for today. For tomorrow? -- only time will tell. And I see that the time has arrived to shut down the fractal shoppe and call it a night. Until next time, take care, and wish for the best. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Fractalesque { ; time=0:09:38.32 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-14.18706546711465000/-0.2322107332456753\ 0/2.592652e+007/1/77.5 params=10/1.5/1/-15/-0.9/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 logmap=172 periodicity=9 colors=00080LD0NH0LK1JO3HR6EV8DZA9aD8eH6jK2oO0sR0xU0\ zT0zQ5zO9zKEzIJzGOzDPzAPy9Lx8Jw6Gv5Du39s17r03r01<3>p\ 5Op6Uo7_o8eo9jmApmCvmDzkIojNcgRRfWGe_5`c3Wf3Rh3Ol3Up\ 3_r3<3>ws2zs2ws2<2>es2hs2ks2fm8aeEYUJTLPODUJ5_G0dK0a\ O2`<2>ZAWaDVeHThJRlLQ<2>m`RmeRojR<2>oxRozRmgYmNcoJ_o\ HWoEUoCQo9Oo6K<3>o6Zo6ao6em6hm6hm2kl6jk9hjDhjHghKggO\ fgQffPcfOwfNzfLV<3>fHKfGIfEEfDCfD9gN6hW2he0jo0jx0<2>\ fv0eu0es1ds2cr3ar5<3>Zo9ZoAAmzGkx<3>Ya`a_UfYO<3>wO0<\ 3>jQEfRIdRL`TPYTR<3>LVeIWhEWlCWoG_`IcOKfANj0Qh2Uh7Wg\ C_gHcfKefPheUleZodcrdfvckxcpzauzaxgK`<2>6Od<12>6cs6d\ u6ev<3>6jz6kz6lz<2>6pz6qz6qz<11>6qz6qz6qz<3>6qzAqz<1\ 8>8qz } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:24:27 -0000 From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 23-11-00 (Fractalesque [7]) Wow! Now *that* is what I call a colour scheme. Fantastic! Jim, you are an inspiration to us all! >From: Jim Muth >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >CC: philofractal@lists.fractalus.com >Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 23-11-00 (Fractalesque [7]) >Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:39:58 -0500 (EST) > > >Classic FOTD -- November 23, 2000 (Rating 7) > >Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: > >A descriptive name for today's fractal eluded me, so I settled >on the generic title "Fractalesque". The name has a rather >festive sound to it, which goes along with the festive >appearance of the image. And it's better than no name at all. > >Due to the unusual blue and orange elements surrounding the >brilliantly decorated central midget, I raised my rating from 6 >to 7. > >The formula behind the image is Z^1.5+0.1Z^(-15)+(1/C), another >of the totally whimsical expressions I conjure up while using >the MandelbrotMix4 formula. > >The parameter file renders in 9-1/2 minutes, a time long enough >to make a download of the GIF image file the better choice. And >speaking of a download, the file may be found on Usenet at: > > > >and on the W.W.W. at: > > > >The fractal weather today here at Fractal Central was sunny but >quite cold. The temperature of 30F (-1C) was far too chilly for >the fractal cats, who slept curled by the radiators most all day. > >I've still got more fractal image inspiration than literary >inspiration, so there will be no philosophy for today. For >tomorrow? -- only time will tell. > >And I see that the time has arrived to shut down the fractal >shoppe and call it a night. Until next time, take care, and >wish for the best. > > >Jim Muth >jamth@mindspring.com > > >START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ > >Fractalesque { ; time=0:09:38.32 -- SF5 on a P200 > reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm > formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 > center-mag=-14.18706546711465000/-0.2322107332456753\ > 0/2.592652e+007/1/77.5 params=10/1.5/1/-15/-0.9/0 > float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0 logmap=172 periodicity=9 > colors=00080LD0NH0LK1JO3HR6EV8DZA9aD8eH6jK2oO0sR0xU0\ > zT0zQ5zO9zKEzIJzGOzDPzAPy9Lx8Jw6Gv5Du39s17r03r01<3>p\ > 5Op6Uo7_o8eo9jmApmCvmDzkIojNcgRRfWGe_5`c3Wf3Rh3Ol3Up\ > 3_r3<3>ws2zs2ws2<2>es2hs2ks2fm8aeEYUJTLPODUJ5_G0dK0a\ > O2`<2>ZAWaDVeHThJRlLQ<2>m`RmeRojR<2>oxRozRmgYmNcoJ_o\ > HWoEUoCQo9Oo6K<3>o6Zo6ao6em6hm6hm2kl6jk9hjDhjHghKggO\ > fgQffPcfOwfNzfLV<3>fHKfGIfEEfDCfD9gN6hW2he0jo0jx0<2>\ > fv0eu0es1ds2cr3ar5<3>Zo9ZoAAmzGkx<3>Ya`a_UfYO<3>wO0<\ > 3>jQEfRIdRL`TPYTR<3>LVeIWhEWlCWoG_`IcOKfANj0Qh2Uh7Wg\ > C_gHcfKefPheUleZodcrdfvckxcpzauzaxgK`<2>6Od<12>6cs6d\ > u6ev<3>6jz6kz6lz<2>6pz6qz6qz<11>6qz6qz6qz<3>6qzAqz<1\ > 8>8qz > } > >frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth >a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), >g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, >k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): >z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, >|z| < l >} > >END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@fractint.org >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:30:05 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 24-11-00 (Liquid Mandeloid [6]) Classic FOTD -- November 24, 2000 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: After a busy Thanksgiving day holiday, I have little time for notes, though the fractal for today is notable. The iterated formula behind the image is -15Z^(-1.15)-Z^(-11.5)+(1/C), another totally whimsical expression. I named the image "Liquid Mandeloid" when I noticed that the entire image appears as though it were reflected in a rippling pool of water. Having named the picture, I studied it a moment before deciding on its rating of 6. With a render time of almost 47 minutes, the image is quite slow when drawn from the parameter file. But impatience may be avoided by downloading the pre-rendered GIF image file from the internet, where it has been posted to: and to: The fractal weather today here at Fractal Central was cold and sunny. The afternoon temperature of 34F (1C) was far too cold for sensitive fractal cats to be out of doors. They spent the day as usual by the radiators. That's it for tonight, but I'll be back tomorrow with fractal and notes. Until then, take care, and could a race that had never developed vision be familiar with the Mandelbrot set? Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Liquid_Mandeloid { ; time=0:46:27.52 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+2.71630165554769200/-0.94733691371325090\ /3.034843e+008/1/180 params=15/-1.15/1/-11.5/-2/500 float=y maxiter=3600 inside=0 logmap=364 periodicity=9 colors=000REEUFFWGGdHH<3>KMMFOO6PPAQQCRR<2>MVVPWSSWR\ VYPYYO`ZLc_Jg_Hi`Fm`EobBsbAvc7zd1xc6vcArbEobHmbHibFh\ bFjbEkbEmbCn`C<3>s`Bt_Bv_Aw_Ax_At`Br`Co`E<2>h`Ge`Hc`\ J<3>U`MR`MP`OM`PK`QJcOH`QG_RFZSEWVCVWBUYAR_8Q`7Pb6Oc\ 5Le4Kg2Jh1Gj0Fk0Em0Cn<3>5Bi6Ah7Ag8AeAAdC6bBAcBCcBFcA\ HcALcAOc8Qc8Sc8Wd7Zd7`d7cd6gd6id6kd1qg6nd<2>HjZkiWPh\ VtgSWeRtdPdcMx`Li`JzYGnZFwYCsWBvVBxUBwUBvSBsSBrRBoRB\ nQBmQBoOFqLHrKLsHOtFRvEUwBYxA_y7cz5ez4iz1kz0oz0rz0vz\ 0xz0wz2w<3>zHwyLwxPwxUw<3>shwrkwqowoswnyzowwovsqtqqs\ mrqirogrncsm`sjYtiUthRvgOvdKvcH<3>xY4yW1yV0yU0rV0<3>\ U_KO`PMbEHcU0d07eFLgUZhh_ii`ji`kibmi<3>eriesigti<3>j\ yijzikziozkkziizggzddzb`z_ZzYWzV<3>LzLJzJGzGCzE<2>5z\ 60z52z45z4<5>Gz4Hz4Kz4Lz4Oz4Pz4Rz4Sz4Vz4Wz4RzCMzLGzQ\ JzSKzUMzV } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #511 ******************************