From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #564 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Saturday, May 19 2001 Volume 01 : Number 564 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:26:43 -0500 From: Programmer Dude Subject: Re: (fractint) float only version > George Priest wrote: > Could I install the float-only version in the same directory with the > regular version and rename it something like FractinF? Well,... you should probably name it "FractFlo".... - -- |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | |_____________________________________________|_______________________| - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:33:13 +0000 From: "Thierry B." Subject: Re: (fractint) float only version Programmer Dude wrote: > > > George Priest wrote: > > > Could I install the float-only version in the same directory with the > > regular version and rename it something like FractinF? > > Well,... you should probably name it "FractFlo".... > what a good idea ! my girl-friend was named Flo ! http://la.buvette.org/images/photos/flo.euh - -- Thierry, 42++ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:41:23 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Francisco_Andeyro_Garc=EDa?= Subject: (fractint) Hi, little problem with first formulas... Dear Friends: My name is Francisco Andeyro. I'm a student at the polytechnic of Madrid, and a fractal and mathematics enthusiast, like you all. I'm doing some research in Graphic cryptography, with some algorithms, similar to automatas. All technical info is avaible at: http://www.arkion.es But the problem i have, has nothing to do with that. I'm doing my first steps in managing formula fractals. As a first simple exercise i decided to write a formula file for representing a simple Mandelbrot: MandelPrueba {;Quicote z0=c=pixel z=z*z+c } And it draws something very similar to a mandel, but irregular and broken; and i got really surprised when i turn on Floating Point... and i obtained an empty blue screen... I've run also MandelPrueba {;Quicote z0=c=pixel z=z*z+c |z|<4 } With similar result. I'm sure that it has an obvious explanation, ...but i'm young and unexperinced... Please help me I'm using Fractint 20.0. Thanks in advance. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:29:50 -0400 From: George Martin Subject: (fractint) Hi, little problem with first formulas... MandelPrueba {;Quicote z0=3Dc=3Dpixel z=3Dz*z+c } This formula lacks the "bailout" line at the end. Also, you do not need = a separate variable (z0) in the initialization. Finally, the initializati= on section should be separated from the main body of the formula with a ":".= The complete formula Mandelbrot { z =3D c =3D pixel: z =3D z*z + c |z| < 4 } George Martin = - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 22:50:09 +0200 From: Guy Marson Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi, little problem with first formulas... At 17:41 17/05/01 +0200, you wrote: >Dear Friends: Try it this way: **********************************************=20 MandelPrueba {;Quicote z=3Dc=3Dpixel ;the ':' is a must.. : z=3Dz*z+c and a bailout condition:=20 =A6z=A6<=3D4 } *********************************** > >And it draws something very similar to a mandel, but irregular and broken; >and i got really surprised when i turn on Floating Point... and i obtained >an empty blue screen... > >I've run also > >MandelPrueba {;Quicote >z0=3Dc=3Dpixel >z=3Dz*z+c >|z|<4 >} > >With similar result. > >I'm sure that it has an obvious explanation, ...but i'm young and >unexperinced... Please help me > >I'm using Fractint 20.0. > >Thanks in advance. > cheers,=20 Guy - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:26:08 -0400 From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 28-04-01 (Semi-Chaos [4]) - ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C0DD5B.BFB8DDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Some astronomers have suggested that dark matter might be located in > (and I love this term) MACHOS (MAssive Cometary Halo ObjectS). That > is, really, really big snowballs. With rocks in them. ;-) MAssive Compact Halo Objects, actually. And besides cometoids, they can b= e rogue planets, brown dwarfs, no-longer-luminous collapsed stars (cooled= white dwarf, cooled neutron star, black hole far from other mass). Also, the mainstream, inflationary cosmology requires some non-baryonic d= ark matter. Incidentally, wouldn't it be a hoot if globular clusters turned out to be= *artifacts*? Think of it -- scads of energy, and if they have no or slow= FTL (e.g. weeks to cross a light year) their systems are all close toget= her. Massive engineering feat though. Now, you know what would be even mo= re impressive? If some ubercivilizations have locked up their globular cl= usters in dyson shells. Makes the usual dyson shell look like a shanty on= the side of the highway by comparison. And the result is dark matter, wi= th maybe the odd infrared glow somewhere. Intriguingly, these clusters are in slow gravitational collapse. An inter= esting possibility is that this is what someone did in order to open worm= holes for intergalactic travel... the stars fall into the center, some gr= avitational magic, presto! Open a bridge to Andromeda. Anyone doing somet= hing like that takes a *looong* view. Probably have to be uploads then.
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> Some astr= onomers have suggested that dark matter might be located in
> (and = I love this term) MACHOS (MAssive Cometary Halo ObjectS).  That
&= gt; is, really, really big snowballs.  With rocks in them.  ;-)=
MAssive Compact Halo Objects, actually. And besides comet= oids, they can be rogue planets, brown dwarfs, no-longer-luminous collaps= ed stars (cooled white dwarf, cooled neutron star, black hole far from ot= her mass).
 
Also, the mainstream, inflationar= y cosmology requires some non-baryonic dark matter.
 
Incidentally, wouldn't it be a hoot if globular clusters turned o= ut to be *artifacts*? Think of it -- scads of energy, and if they have no= or slow FTL (e.g. weeks to cross a light year) their systems are all clo= se together. Massive engineering feat though. Now, you know what would be= even more impressive? If some ubercivilizations have locked up their glo= bular clusters in dyson shells. Makes the usual dyson shell look like a s= hanty on the side of the highway by comparison. And the result is dark ma= tter, with maybe the odd infrared glow somewhere.
 
=
Intriguingly, these clusters are in slow gravitational collapse. An= interesting possibility is that this is what someone did in order to ope= n wormholes for intergalactic travel... the stars fall into the center, s= ome gravitational magic, presto! Open a bridge to Andromeda. Anyone doing= something like that takes a *looong* view. Probably have to be uploads t= hen.


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>Classic FO= TD -- May 08, 2001 (Rating 6)
      &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;         ^
Y= ou misspelled '8'.
 
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I'm doing some research in graphic cryptography with a kind of automata developed by me. It generates beautifull images similar to fractals... but i never know if it can be considered as fractal or not... I supose, it is fractal, because it generates images with similar patterns at diferent scale... and it do it with an algorithm that is not very diferent from a Langton ant, or cellular automatas...(not also very very similar, but not too diferent). All technical info, and images are avaible at my web: http://www.arkion.es ...it would be nice to know what you all think about it... Thanks in advance. Francisco Andeyro This formula lacks the "bailout" line at the end. Also, you do not need a separate variable (z0) in the initialization. Finally, the initialization section should be separated from the main body of the formula with a ":". The complete formula Mandelbrot { z = c = pixel: z = z*z + c |z| < 4 } George Martin - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:12:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 18-05-01 (Too Much of It All [4]) Classic FOTD -- May 18, 2001 (Rating 4) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's FOTD rates a modest 4, which is a little below average. The rating is this low because the image has too much of everything. To begin, the parameter file takes over 3 hours to render, which is far too much time for an image of such questionable worth. I would strongly recommend letting Paul and Scott do the rendering. When they have done the work, the image will be available in a few hours on their FOTD web sites at: and at: Why did I choose a mediocre 3-hour image to be today's FOTD? The answer is simple -- at first I thought it would be a prize- winner. The 1/10-size thumbnail, which took 18 minutes to render, looked spectacular with a different color palette. But when the full-size image was finished, it fell far short of its promise. The original palette, which looked so good on a small size image, didn't work at all with the full-sized version, and the image just wouldn't look right regardless of how much I tweaked the colors. Eventually, I discarded the original colors and substituted the present palette. The image is a difficult one to color because it has too much detail. The colors just don't blend pleasingly. And when the colors do blend, the detail vanishes. A great fractal may lie hidden in the image, waiting only for a clever color scheme to reveal it, but the image is simply too slow to try the various rendering options. I named the image "Too Much of It All", which is an honest description of my feelings about the image. I found the scene when I did a little extra exploring of the "Pooped-Out" fractal of 3 days ago -- a fractal filled with unusual places just waiting to be discovered. In addition to iterated numbers, the weather is fractal in nature. Today, it was cloudy and chilly, with a temperature of 63F (17C). The cats, who are also fractal, decided it was a bit too cold, and were outdoors only a few minutes. But they were in an unusually pleasant mood for an indoor day. I'm waxing philosophical, but the wall clock tells me that the day is young and there's a lot to be done. The time has come to post my FOTD and get busy. Until next time, take care, and with an infinity of midgets waiting to be discovered, the chance of any given midget being discovered is zero. Yet midgets are in fact discovered. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Too_Much_of_It_All { ; time=3:05:48.77--SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+0.0154933047329414/-0.0137267362945872\ /6.480949e+008/1/10 params=1/0.7/-1/-0.7/-4.5/5000 float=y maxiter=36000 inside=0 logmap=-2263 periodicity=10 colors=000c0zc0zc0zc0zc0zc1zZ3zZ6zZ7zU9zUAwUDrUFmU\ GhUJdULgUMjUOmUQpPSrKTuFXxAYz0_z0`z0_z0Yy0Xx0Vu0Tr\ 0Sp0Qm0Pj0Oi0Of0Mc0La0J_0IX0GV0FS0DP0CO0AL0000CL4C\ L9CMFCMJCOOCOTCPYCPaDPgDQlDQpDSvDSzDTzDTzDTzJPzOLz\ SGzYCza7zf3zl0zp0zu0zy0zu0zr6ugGpTQjF`f0jd0md7pVFd\ XTfYggYvi_zi`zj`zlazlczmczodzodzpfzrgzrgzsizujzujz\ vlzxmzxmzzozzozzlzzjzzgvzfrzdmzaiz`dzY`zXXzVSzSOzQ\ JzPFzMGzLGzJGzIIzFIzDIzCJzAJz7Jz6Jz4Lz3Lz0Lz0Mz0Mz\ 0Mz0MzFAzF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF1\ zF3zF3zF4zD4z96z67z37z09z09z0Dz0Gz0Lz0Oz0Qz0Xz0az0\ gv1mo1sg1y`jxTauMVrFMo9Fv47z03z10z30z40z60z70z60z4\ 0z40z31z34z17z1Az0Dz0Gz0Jz0Mz0Pz0Sz0Vz0Yz0`z0cz0fz\ 0iz0lz0mz0jz0iz0gz0fz1cz4az6`z9_zCYzFVzITzLSzMQzPO\ zSMzVLzYJz`IzaDz_AzY7zX4zV1zT0zS0zQ0zS1zT4zT7zVAzX\ DzXFzYIz_Lz_Oz`QzaTzaXzcYzd`zdczffzgizglziozjpzjjz\ gdzf_zcTzaCz9Dz9FzAFzAGzA } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:29:50 -0400 From: George Martin Subject: (fractint) Hi, little problem with first formulas... MandelPrueba {;Quicote z0=3Dc=3Dpixel z=3Dz*z+c } This formula lacks the "bailout" line at the end. Also, you do not need = a separate variable (z0) in the initialization. Finally, the initializati= on section should be separated from the main body of the formula with a ":".= The complete formula Mandelbrot { z =3D c =3D pixel: z =3D z*z + c |z| < 4 } George Martin = - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:50:11 -0400 From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 22-04-01 - ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C0DD2C.D2434F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Rambling story, flying heads, men in diapers, topless women -- it has ev= erything. Topless women? In the Wizard of Oz?! Someone is spinning in his/her grave= . Decent old sci-fi movies I've seen: The Fly and friends (the three old ones, not the 80s remakes -- those are= good too but not *old*!) 2001 (a bit slow in places) A Crack in the World (cheesy, I know) Forbin: The Colossus Project (parts of it suck, but the rest...) Star Wars: ANH(!) The Terminal Man The Andromeda Strain Decent 80s: Tron 2010 Anything Short Circuit Star Wars: ESB, ROJ Star Trek: TMP (a bit slow in places) Star Trek 2, 4, 6(? -- might have been early 90s) Starman, Last Starfighter, assorted other Starfoo Moonraker (hey, it had a freaking big [and unrealistic] space station!) Assorted Superman movies and spinoffs (why the *hell* did they stop makin= g these?) The Fly (1985 remake) and probably its sequel (which I've never managed t= o see) Back to the Freaking Future! (and sequels -- let's see if these b*stards = can do 90!) Cocoon and sequels, *Batteries Not Included (oh, crap, I'm turning into a= sap!) John Carpenter's Village of the Damned (or was that late 70s?) Original shrunk the kids (the sequels sucked, and the TV show blows) Decent modern ones: Phantom Menace (duh) Mission to Mars (ymmv) Stargate (obscure; the TV show rocks too and is still in production), ID4 Armageddon, Deep Impact (so the science in Armageddon sucked. It was stil= l fun.) Jurassic Park (but the sequel sucked) Goldeneye (hey, it had funky nuclear weapons!) X-Men Lost In Space Any recent Star Trek movie (with Picard and crew!) -- especially the ones= with the azz-kicking Enterprise E. Especially the last one. Any film that depicts an older woman as desirabl= e gets bonus points. Special edition Star Wars ROJ and ANH! Aliens (nice explosion near the end -- too bad the sequel sucked. The pre= quel is too old for this list.) The Abyss (often overlooked, *cool* music) Sphere (It *did* come from the Creighton-meister) Event Horizon (Not for the faint of heart -- if you use nitroglycerine fo= r something other than blowing things up, I recommend Aliens instead. J/k...) Starship Troopers (WARNING: Take one (1) Pepto-Bismol before viewing. Avo= id viewing in an aircraft, motor vehicle, elevator, ship*, or other moving vehicle, or dur= ing an earthquake. Avoid viewing while on a waterbed. =20 Keep a pail handy, preferably one that is easy t= o wash. *Spacecraft are an exception, except during an e= ngine burn.) Recent ones I haven't seen, but that look good: Supernova Red Planet (not to confuse with Mission to Mars) Alien 4 Titan: AE(!) DVD special edition version of ST:TMP (obscure) Less sure about: Deep Blue Sea Battlefield: Earth Up-and-coming and guaranteed good: Star Wars II (duh) Star Trek X (duh) Star Wars III (don't hold your breath) Rumored: A Matrix sequel or prequel (*drool*) DVD Recommended due to digital FX and widescreen: Star Trek 9 (duh) Phantom Menace (duh! don't have it but it *has* to rock!) The Matrix (check out the whole last third -- also loads of extras on the= disk) Armageddon (if you hate the Eiffel Tower you'll love the DVD version of t= his) Deep Impact (probably; don't have it) Star Wars: ANH, ROJ -- the explosion of the ROJ Death Star really suffers= on pan-and-scan, although the pan-and-scan version of the sail barge explosion scen= e is more impressive because of the dramatic panning! ID4 (duh! the small screen really wrecks the impressive alien ship arriva= l scene! then there's the massive fights, explosions, &c) Stargate (probably; don't have it) Supernova and Titan: AE (probably; don't have either on DVD or VHS) Stuff that sucked: The Food of the Gods The Day of the Triffids (a crying shame; the book rocks) Any of several bad Frankenstein rip-offs from the 60s, 70s, and 80s Any of several bad Dracula rip-offs from the 60s, 70s, and 80s* Asteroid! (this one made Armageddon look scientifically accurate!) * RHPS excluded, special exemption OK: Screamers Downdraft Star Trek 3, 5 Space Cowboys The Arrival The Arrival II (probably -- got a DVD of it, but haven't gotten around to= viewing it yet) Good spoofs: Spaceballs! Galaxy Quest The Zero Wing flash animation(!)* The movie was good but the book sucked: * Several of the Star Trek movies * Someone set up us the Zerowing reference!
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>Rambling s= tory, flying heads, men in diapers, topless women -- it has everything.
 
Topless women? In the Wizard of Oz?! Someone = is spinning in his/her grave.
 
Decent old sci= - -fi movies I've seen:
The Fly and friends (the three old ones,= not the 80s remakes -- those are good too but not *old*!)
200= 1 (a bit slow in places)
A Crack in the World (cheesy, I know)=
Forbin: The Colossus Project (parts of it suck, but the rest.= ..)
Star Wars: ANH(!)
The Terminal Man
T= he Andromeda Strain
Decent 80s:
Tron
2010
Anything Short Circuit
Star Wars: ESB, ROJ
=
Star Trek: TMP (a bit slow in places)
Star Trek 2, 4, 6(?= -- might have been early 90s)
Starman, Last Starfighter, asso= rted other Starfoo
Moonraker (hey, it had a freaking big [and = unrealistic] space station!)
Assorted Superman movies and spin= offs (why the *hell* did they stop making these?)
The Fly (198= 5 remake) and probably its sequel (which I've never managed to see)
=
Back to the Freaking Future! (and sequels -- let's see if these b*s= tards can do 90!)
Cocoon and sequels, *Batteries Not Included = (oh, crap, I'm turning into a sap!)
John Carpenter's Village o= f the Damned (or was that late 70s?)
Original shrunk the kids = (the sequels sucked, and the TV show blows)
Decent modern= ones:
Phantom Menace (duh)
Mission to Mars (ymmv)<= /DIV>
Stargate (obscure; the TV show rocks too and is still in produ= ction), ID4
Armageddon, Deep Impact (so the science in Armaged= don sucked. It was still fun.)
Jurassic Park (but the sequel s= ucked)
Goldeneye (hey, it had funky nuclear weapons!)
X-Men
Lost In Space
Any recent Star Trek movie (= with Picard and crew!) -- especially the ones with the azz-kicking Enterp= rise E.
Especially the last one. Any film that depicts an olde= r woman as desirable gets bonus points.
Special edition Star W= ars ROJ and ANH!
Aliens (nice explosion near the end -- too ba= d the sequel sucked. The prequel is too old for this list.)
Th= e Abyss (often overlooked, *cool* music)
Sphere (It *did* come= from the Creighton-meister)
Event Horizon (Not for the faint = of heart -- if you use nitroglycerine for something other than blowing th= ings up,
         = ;           I recommend= Aliens instead. J/k...)
Starship Troopers (WARNING: Take one = (1) Pepto-Bismol before viewing. Avoid viewing in an aircraft, motor vehi= cle,
         &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;   elevator, ship*, or other moving vehicle, or during an ear= thquake. Avoid viewing while on a waterbed.
   = ;            =           Keep a pail handy,= preferably one that is easy to wash.
    =             &= nbsp;        *Spacecraft are an e= xception, except during an engine burn.)
Recent ones I haven't= seen, but that look good:
Supernova
Red Planet (no= t to confuse with Mission to Mars)
Alien 4
Titan: A= E(!)
DVD special edition version of ST:TMP (obscure)
Less sure about:
Deep Blue Sea
Battlefield: Earth=
Up-and-coming and guaranteed good:
Star Wars II (d= uh)
Star Trek X (duh)
Star Wars III (don't hol= d your breath)
Rumored:
A Matrix sequel or prequel = (*drool*)
 
DVD Recommended due to digital FX = and widescreen:
Star Trek 9 (duh)
Phantom Menace (d= uh! don't have it but it *has* to rock!)
The Matrix (check out= the whole last third -- also loads of extras on the disk)
Arm= ageddon (if you hate the Eiffel Tower you'll love the DVD version of this= )
Deep Impact (probably; don't have it)
Star Wars: = ANH, ROJ -- the explosion of the ROJ Death Star really suffers on pan-and= - -scan, although the pan-and-scan
     = ;            =             &= nbsp;   version of the sail barge explosion scene is more impre= ssive because of the dramatic panning!
ID4 (duh! the smal= l screen really wrecks the impressive alien ship arrival scene! then ther= e's the massive fights, explosions,
     &= amp;c)
Stargate (probably; don't have it)
Supernova= and Titan: AE (probably; don't have either on DVD or VHS)
&nb= sp;
 
Stuff that sucked:
The Food o= f the Gods
The Day of the Triffids (a crying shame; the book r= ocks)
Any of several bad Frankenstein rip-offs from the 60s, 7= 0s, and 80s
Any of several bad Dracula rip-offs from the= 60s, 70s, and 80s*
Asteroid! (this one made Armageddon look s= cientifically accurate!)
 
* RHPS excluded, sp= ecial exemption
 
OK:
Screame= rs
Downdraft
Star Trek 3, 5
Space Cowboy= s
The Arrival
The Arrival II (probably -- got a DVD= of it, but haven't gotten around to viewing it yet)
 
Good spoofs:
Spaceballs!
Galaxy Quest
The Zero Wing flash animation(!)*
 
The= movie was good but the book sucked:
* Several of the Star Tre= k movies
 
 
 
* Someone set up us the Zerowing reference!

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>invisible, resulting i= n a GIF image as close to the appearance
>of true-color as one is l= ikely to see.
 
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- ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C0DD2E.83F9E380-- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 01:34:55 +0200 From: Guy Marson Subject: Re: (fractint) ...another little... doubt... Hi Francisco, At 12:52 18/05/01 +0200, you wrote: >...it works much better with your help... > >Thanks to George Martin and Guy Marson... > >Now i have another doubt. I'm doing some research in graphic cryptography >with a kind of automata developed by me. It generates beautifull images >similar to fractals... but i never know if it can be considered as fractal >or not... to get a good definition of fractals, please read the "fractint.doc" generated by fractint.exe itself when entering the following on the command line: 'fractint makedoc'. For a better understanding please read the "Frmtutor" which you can download at : http://www.fractint.org/ > >I supose, it is fractal, because it generates images with similar patterns >at diferent scale... and it do it with an algorithm that is not very >diferent from a Langton ant, or cellular automatas...(not also very very >similar, but not too diferent). > >All technical info, and images are avaible at my web: > >http://www.arkion.es I will see it later on.. cheers, Guy - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 01:34:20 +0200 From: Guy Marson Subject: Re: (fractint) float only version At 15:33 17/05/01 +0000, you wrote: >Programmer Dude wrote: >> >> > George Priest wrote: >> >> > Could I install the float-only version in the same directory with the >> > regular version and rename it something like FractinF? >> >> Well,... you should probably name it "FractFlo".... >> Une histoire belge? > > what a good idea ! my girl-friend was named Flo ! > http://la.buvette.org/images/photos/flo.euh > > >-- >Thierry, 42++ Cheers, Guy - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:12:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 18-05-01 (Too Much of It All [4]) Classic FOTD -- May 18, 2001 (Rating 4) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's FOTD rates a modest 4, which is a little below average. The rating is this low because the image has too much of everything. To begin, the parameter file takes over 3 hours to render, which is far too much time for an image of such questionable worth. I would strongly recommend letting Paul and Scott do the rendering. When they have done the work, the image will be available in a few hours on their FOTD web sites at: and at: Why did I choose a mediocre 3-hour image to be today's FOTD? The answer is simple -- at first I thought it would be a prize- winner. The 1/10-size thumbnail, which took 18 minutes to render, looked spectacular with a different color palette. But when the full-size image was finished, it fell far short of its promise. The original palette, which looked so good on a small size image, didn't work at all with the full-sized version, and the image just wouldn't look right regardless of how much I tweaked the colors. Eventually, I discarded the original colors and substituted the present palette. The image is a difficult one to color because it has too much detail. The colors just don't blend pleasingly. And when the colors do blend, the detail vanishes. A great fractal may lie hidden in the image, waiting only for a clever color scheme to reveal it, but the image is simply too slow to try the various rendering options. I named the image "Too Much of It All", which is an honest description of my feelings about the image. I found the scene when I did a little extra exploring of the "Pooped-Out" fractal of 3 days ago -- a fractal filled with unusual places just waiting to be discovered. In addition to iterated numbers, the weather is fractal in nature. Today, it was cloudy and chilly, with a temperature of 63F (17C). The cats, who are also fractal, decided it was a bit too cold, and were outdoors only a few minutes. But they were in an unusually pleasant mood for an indoor day. I'm waxing philosophical, but the wall clock tells me that the day is young and there's a lot to be done. The time has come to post my FOTD and get busy. Until next time, take care, and with an infinity of midgets waiting to be discovered, the chance of any given midget being discovered is zero. Yet midgets are in fact discovered. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Too_Much_of_It_All { ; time=3:05:48.77--SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+0.0154933047329414/-0.0137267362945872\ /6.480949e+008/1/10 params=1/0.7/-1/-0.7/-4.5/5000 float=y maxiter=36000 inside=0 logmap=-2263 periodicity=10 colors=000c0zc0zc0zc0zc0zc1zZ3zZ6zZ7zU9zUAwUDrUFmU\ GhUJdULgUMjUOmUQpPSrKTuFXxAYz0_z0`z0_z0Yy0Xx0Vu0Tr\ 0Sp0Qm0Pj0Oi0Of0Mc0La0J_0IX0GV0FS0DP0CO0AL0000CL4C\ L9CMFCMJCOOCOTCPYCPaDPgDQlDQpDSvDSzDTzDTzDTzJPzOLz\ SGzYCza7zf3zl0zp0zu0zy0zu0zr6ugGpTQjF`f0jd0md7pVFd\ XTfYggYvi_zi`zj`zlazlczmczodzodzpfzrgzrgzsizujzujz\ vlzxmzxmzzozzozzlzzjzzgvzfrzdmzaiz`dzY`zXXzVSzSOzQ\ JzPFzMGzLGzJGzIIzFIzDIzCJzAJz7Jz6Jz4Lz3Lz0Lz0Mz0Mz\ 0Mz0MzFAzF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF0zF1\ zF3zF3zF4zD4z96z67z37z09z09z0Dz0Gz0Lz0Oz0Qz0Xz0az0\ gv1mo1sg1y`jxTauMVrFMo9Fv47z03z10z30z40z60z70z60z4\ 0z40z31z34z17z1Az0Dz0Gz0Jz0Mz0Pz0Sz0Vz0Yz0`z0cz0fz\ 0iz0lz0mz0jz0iz0gz0fz1cz4az6`z9_zCYzFVzITzLSzMQzPO\ zSMzVLzYJz`IzaDz_AzY7zX4zV1zT0zS0zQ0zS1zT4zT7zVAzX\ DzXFzYIz_Lz_Oz`QzaTzaXzcYzd`zdczffzgizglziozjpzjjz\ gdzf_zcTzaCz9Dz9FzAFzAGzA } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #564 ******************************