From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #572 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Wednesday, June 13 2001 Volume 01 : Number 572 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:25:15 EDT From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 10-06-01 (Fractal Shortfall [6]) Classic FOTD -- June 10, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: As I write this, I have on the desk beside me the most recent issue of 'Skeptic' magazine, a publication that I often read, which features articles about many strange and wonderfully interesting paranormal things that do not happen. On the cover is a fractal created by a well-known fractal artist, and a well- known fractal generating program other than Fractint. As I study the image with its multiple layers and different coloring methods, I remember the Mandelbrot set as it was in 1985, with its one layer and flat equal-iteration bands. Fractals are (or were) graphs of the things iterated complex numbers do. When I see so-called fractals such as the one on the magazine cover, I ask myself, "is this what the numbers have done or what the artist has done?" If this type of image is to be considered a fractal, so be it. But then I must think of some new name to call the conservative images that I produce, which emphasize the behavior of the numbers rather than any possible artistic ability on my part. (The word 'protofractals' comes to mind.) I'll be pondering this minor dilemma over the next few days. I may invent a new name; I may not. But regardless, the images as well as the blather will keep coming. And speaking of images, with today's 6-rated image we begin a slow climb back to the lofty heights of fractal excellence. The rating of 6 is only slightly above average, but it is 2 points above yesterday's less-than-stellar effort. I named the image, which was created by the iterated expression - -Z^(-1.3)-0.02Z^(-13)+(1/C), Fractal Shortfall. I gave it this name because the magnitude of the image falls short of revealing the midget at the center. In fact, the midget is so tiny that not a trace of it is visible. Instead of my normal inside=0 outside=iter coloring, I set the inside to bof61 and the outside to tdis. This is not too much of a sacrilege, since the basic forms are still clearly visible. Unfortunately, the parameter file takes well over 1/2 hour to render. Therefore, a download of the GIF image from: or from: is strongly recommended. The fractal weather today was once again perfect, with blue skies, puffy white cumulus clouds, a temperature of 83F (28C), and happy cats. As for me, I've about had it for the day. It's already past midnight and there's not much left to do but settle into my favorite chair and grow sleepy watching an exciting old sci-fi movie. But I'll be back in 24 or 36 hours with the next fractal image. Until then, take care, and after 16 years of fascination with fractals, I don't even know what a fractal is. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Fractal_Shortfall { ; time=0:36:18.07--SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-60.81552655003062/-416.9838484676321/8\ .371123e+007/1/94.999 params=-1/-1.3/-0.02/-13/0/0 float=y maxiter=6400 inside=atan outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=0001zW0od0_n0Lx0Ko0Ih0Hb0GX2ER4EL2HG2KB2N6L\ XBggEzsIokObbTRWYGOb6Hh0Bn06s0Kh6Y_GoRRzITnUUYdWKo\ RGhNDbK9XG7RC4L91H0v07q2KlDYgQoohzxzXQz40zC0zK0vT0\ q`0lk0hb1eW1bO2`H2YB2W54U04R04Q07L59IBCEHECOI9WL6b\ O4kR1lU7nWDoXKq_Rs`Ytbevdlq_kzXkgTkbQkYLkUIkQEkNCk\ 0UrLlWG`QBRL7HH29D01900600200806E5GL9RTEb_KogQzo2g\ 0C_6LTKXLYgEos8zqX`oxCqt7sq2zz0tl0tk0zX4zLIzBYzCbz\ DgvDlsEqqEvb8qR4nE0h50e00b00Y40U70RQObRK_RGXRCUR8R\ T5OT1LT0IT0H_0Qg5Yo9gxEqzIzzGttEnqCglB`h8Wd7Q`5KX4\ GU1BQ06N01I00G00C00900I70RN0_e0hz2dv4_s5Wq5Rn6Ol6L\ oWNqRNqOOqLOqHQqE0z12z5Dv80zz0zo4zdBxUItK00g02Y5HR\ EYI00v00q10n20k51g65d89`9DYCIWDNTGRQHXNK`KLgHOlEt0\ 0h95YU84n8LsnNqkNqgNqdNq`OqYOqWOqTOqQQqNQqKQqHQqE5\ B57E68H69L7CO7DT8EW8HY9Ib9KeBNkBOnC78X9DUBHTDLQEQO\ GULIYKKbHNgGOlD02k07e2Bb5E_7KX9OUCTQEXNHbKKgHNlEWX\ 2CO4DR5ET6GW6HX7H_7I`8Kd8 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:56:49 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint20 with Windows98 Jean-Pierre SEIMAN wrote: > > Question from a new user of Fractint 20 (DOS) > How may Y use it with Windows? > Which are the settings? > Thank you in advance? > If you are experiencing problems running FractInt under Windows, then try reading some of this: http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fracwin95.html More information may be found here: http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm If you have not created the FractInt Documentation yet, then try the following from your command line: Fractint.exe makedoc Also, you will need to setup your SSTOOLS.INI file with some options that may make things a little easier for you. Any problems in this area, then just send another message to the Discussion List. Sincerely, P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:20:59 -0500 From: bmc1@airmail.net Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 10-06-01 (Fractal Shortfall [6]) Paul Lee-

Could you assist?

In reviewing my list of highly rated FOTD's, I find that Jim gave his Oct 10, 2000 contribution entitled "The Perfect Fractal" a grade of "10".

However, when I go to your page, scroll to October, 2000, and click on the date October 10 - which in every other case produces a download of the image and Jim's attached text, I instead get a variety of other webpages with your name on them somwhere, but not the image I seek.

I also searched on your page both the date October 10, 2000 and the title "The Perfect Fractal", and get lists of other fractals in which the word "perfect " is used by Jim in the text description, but not in the Title of the image itself.

What am I doing wrong??

Thanks, Nice not to live in Houston this week, eh?
 

DeBow Freed
 

JimMuth@aol.com wrote:

Classic FOTD -- June 10, 2001 (Rating 6)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

As I write this, I have on the desk beside me the most recent
issue of 'Skeptic' magazine, a publication that I often read,
which features articles about many strange and wonderfully
interesting paranormal things that do not happen.  On the cover
is a fractal created by a well-known fractal artist, and a well-
known fractal generating program other than Fractint.

As I study the image with its multiple layers and different
coloring methods, I remember the Mandelbrot set as it was in
1985, with its one layer and flat equal-iteration bands.
Fractals are (or were) graphs of the things iterated complex
numbers do.  When I see so-called fractals such as the one on
the magazine cover, I ask myself, "is this what the numbers have
done or what the artist has done?"

If this type of image is to be considered a fractal, so be it.
But then I must think of some new name to call the conservative
images that I produce, which emphasize the behavior of the
numbers rather than any possible artistic ability on my part.
(The word 'protofractals' comes to mind.)  I'll be pondering
this minor dilemma over the next few days.  I may invent a new
name; I may not.  But regardless, the images as well as the
blather will keep coming.

And speaking of images, with today's 6-rated image we begin a
slow climb back to the lofty heights of fractal excellence.  The
rating of 6 is only slightly above average, but it is 2 points
above yesterday's less-than-stellar effort.

I named the image, which was created by the iterated expression
-Z^(-1.3)-0.02Z^(-13)+(1/C), Fractal Shortfall.  I gave it this
name because the magnitude of the image falls short of revealing
the midget at the center.  In fact, the midget is so tiny that
not a trace of it is visible.

Instead of my normal inside=0 outside=iter coloring, I set the
inside to bof61 and the outside to tdis.  This is not too much
of a sacrilege, since the basic forms are still clearly visible.
Unfortunately, the parameter file takes well over 1/2 hour to
render.  Therefore, a download of the GIF image from:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

or from:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

is strongly recommended.

The fractal weather today was once again perfect, with blue
skies, puffy white cumulus clouds, a temperature of 83F (28C),
and happy cats.

As for me, I've about had it for the day.  It's already past
midnight and there's not much left to do but settle into my
favorite chair and grow sleepy watching an exciting old sci-fi
movie.  But I'll be back in 24 or 36 hours with the next fractal
image.  Until then, take care, and after 16 years of fascination
with fractals, I don't even know what a fractal is.

Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com

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|z| < l
}

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- -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:14:25 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 10-06-01 (Fractal Shortfall [6]) bmc1@airmail.net wrote: > > Could you assist? Hey there!! Yes, I would be most glad to, if I am able to do so. :-) > > ....Jim gave his Oct 10, 2000 contribution > entitled "The Perfect Fractal" a grade of > "10". > > However, when I go to your page.....instead > get a variety of other webpages.... Apparently, AT&T was doing some maintenance and lost about 15 days worth of web pages during this time period. I have recently restored those particular pages. Thank you for letting me know that this had occurred. > > I also searched.......title "The Perfect Fractal", > and get lists of other fractals in which the word > "perfect " is used by Jim in the text description, > but not in the Title of the image itself. If you use the double quotes around strings of words, then AltaVista considers everything within the quotes (exactly as it is written) to be a single entity to search for. Otherwise it uses each word separately and finds all pages that may contain those words anywhere within the web page. I will most likely have to add these 15 pages back into the search engine before they will be found again by using the search tool. And this usually takes AltaVista several days to update their databases. Afterwards, everything should function again normally. > > Nice not to live in Houston this week, eh? Though I wish the rains could have made it up to our area, we could use some about now. It has been way to dry lately, and those days of 90º weather took it's toll on the grass and grounds. Later, P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:30:18 +1200 From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: (fractint) Re: [philofractal] C-FOTD 10-06-01 (Fractal Shortfall [6]) At 16:25 10/06/2001, JimMuth@aol.com wrote: >When I see so-called fractals such as the one on >the magazine cover, I ask myself, "is this what the numbers have >done or what the artist has done?" Let's generalise (mathematicians just loooooove to generalise things...). Is this not merely a special case of the question as to whether mathematics is discovered or invented? Me, I still tend towards "discovered", though the Second Gratuitous Greg Egan Excerpt tells me that it's more a matter of utility and some other word that escapes me for the moment than some rigorously argued position. Morgan L. Owens "Ah! Expedience!" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:02:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 11-06-01 (Pentagonal Midget [6]) Classic FOTD -- June 11, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: The reason I have named today's image "Pentagonal Midget" is obvious. The very obvious hole filling the center of the frame is shaped like an irregular pentagon. To be technically accurate, I should not call the hole a midget, for it has no relation whatever to a mini-M-set. The image, with its rating of 6, is not a great one, though the arms surrounding the hole add just enough interest to get the image into the honor-legion of FOTD's. The parent fractal of today's scene was created by the formula Z^(sqrt(2))+C. The scene itself it located on the chaotic shore of a midget sitting on a very prominent filament of the main bud of the parent. The filament cannot be called a negative stem because it shoots out in a northerly direction, and due to the fragmentary nature of the entire fractal, the filament is not continuous. The parameter file takes 1/4 hour to run. The more efficient choice is to download the GIF image from: or from: The fractal weather was once again perfect, with sunshine and a temperature of 85F (29.5C). These conditions kept the fractal cats happy. As for myself, I'll be happy when I finish the work now before me. And the only way to finish is to get started. So until next fractal, take care, and things are never so good that they can't get better. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Pentagonal_Midget { ; time=0:15:19.62--SF5 on a p200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=mandelbrotbc1 function=floor center-mag=-0.48705650547436810/+3.374397806780400\ 00/250175.2/1/-124.998 params=1.414213562373/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=9000 inside=0 logmap=230 periodicity=10 colors=000kf7kg6mi4nj3ok2om0qn0ro0sq0sr0us0vu0wv0w\ w0vv0uv0sv0rv0qu0ou0nu2mu3ks4ks6js7is8grAfrBerEcrF\ bqHaqIaqJ_qKZoMYoNXoOVoQUnRSnSRnURnVQoYOo_OqbNqeMr\ gMrjKsmJsoJurIuuHvwHvzFwzFwzIyzKyzNyzQyzSzzVzyXzwZ\ zwazvczufzsizsjzrmzqozorzouznwzmzznyzmyzkywjyvjysi\ wqgwnfwmfwjewgcvebvcbvaavZ_vXZvVZuSYuQXuNVuMVuJUsH\ SsERsDRsAQs7Os6Oo8RkAUgDVeEYaFZYIaVLbRMeNPfKRiHTjD\ VmBWpAXnAWkATg8Re8Oa8NZ7MV7KS7JO6IM6HI6FFGEBID8KB4\ MB0OA2Q86R7BS6FT4KU3OV2UW2YY0b_0f`0kc0of0ud0yf0zg0\ ze0zc0za0z_0zZ0zZ0zY0zY0yX0wV0vV2uU3sS3rS4qR6oR6oR\ 6oQ7qQ7qQ8qQ8rQ8rQArQAsQAsQBsQBsQDuQDuQDuQEvQEvOEv\ OFwOFwOFwOHwOHyOIyOIyOIzOJzOJzOJzOKzOKzOKzQNwQOsQQ\ oQSmQUiQVeRXaRZZR_VRaRRbNReKSfHSgDSi8Sk6Sm2Sn0Rq0S\ o0Un0Vm0Xk2Yj4Yi6Zg8_fBaeDbcFcbIcaJe_MfZOgYQiXSjVV\ jUXkSZmRanQboOeqNgqIgqMiqQjqUkqYmqanqeoqiqqmrqqsqu\ uqyvcYHeZFf_EfaDgbBicAje8 } frm:MandelbrotBC1 { ; by several Fractint users e=p1, a=imag(p2)+100 p=real(p2)+PI q=2*PI*fn1(p/(2*PI)) r=real(p2)-q Z=C=Pixel: Z=log(Z) IF(imag(Z)>r) Z=Z+flip(2*PI) ENDIF Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C |Z| Subject: (fractint) Interesting FOTD statistics... Greetings, Just looked over some of the counters for the past couple of years and noticed that the most viewed FOTD from Jim Muth's postings is the one for August 30, 2000. But that is most likely due to the title and the words found within the text. I am sure several search engines turn up this page fairly regularly: Giant Flying Boobs © http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD_00-08-30.html So for those that want to have their web pages and galleries viewed by a wider audience, take heed on what really sells and creates "hits". BTW, the five most viewed FOTD months have been the following, in this order: May, 1999 January, 2000 July, 1999 December, 1999 August, 1999 And the five most viewed FOTD days (besides the one above) have been these: December 17, 1999 May 31, 1999 February 04, 2000 May 01, 1999 November 10, 1999 Sincerely, P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:30:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 12-06-01 (Firecracker Fractal [7]) Classic FOTD -- June 12, 2001 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: I am occasionally asked why I set the periodicity to 10 when I use Fractint, when such a setting slows the calculation noticeably. Today's image shows the reason. With periodicity set to 10, as it is in the parameter file, the image renders in 4-1/2 minutes. With periodicity turned off, the image takes 5 full minutes to render. With maximum periodicity checking, (a setting of 1), the image renders in only 4 minutes, but the midget is distorted because the program thinks it sees periodic behavior where none exists, and stops calculating. Through trial and error I found that a periodicity setting of 10 gives the best compromise between time saved and correct rendering. Therefore, I use 10 as the default periodicity setting. Today's image is a dark somber thing with a ring of small and brilliant but shattered cylinders surrounding the midget. I pondered the image a few minutes before noticing that the small red cylinders resemble exploding firecrackers. Once I noticed this, I had my name -- "Firecracker Fractal". Rating the image gave me more reason to ponder. Several minutes of doing other things passed, while the image sat idly on the screen, before I decided that it was worth a 7, a rating that might be a bit liberal. The rather gloomy image was created by iterating the formula - -0.6(Z^(-1.3))-0.006(Z^(-3))+(1/Z). The 4-1/2 minute render time can be reduced to one minute or less by giving Paul and Scott a chance to render the image and post it to their web sites at: and at: The fractal weather today was partly sunny with a temperature of 86F (30C) and a few rumbles of thunder in the evening from a small thunder-shower that passed just north of Fractal Central. The fractal cats had an uneventful day, displaying moods of neutrality as they slept peacefully. I had a day of deeper than usual meditation as I pondered the rightness or wrongness of inflicting the death penalty. It's now around 10:30am -- past the time to get busy. So I'll have to cut things short. But I'll return within 24 hours with the next in the unending series of fractals. Until then, take care, and keep those iterations up. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ FirecrackerFractal { ; time=0:04:33.04--SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+9.688449083063871/-16.01010465889809/1\ .588386e+008/1/40 params=-0.6/-1.3/-0.006/-3/0/1200 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=0 logmap=66 periodicity=10 colors=000I0XI0bK0fM0iN0nP0sR0vSMtUftM9aXcsIMgN`qI\ VqFShDIZAAP9EQ53M30020000F0Cd0Iz0Fy0Dv0Cq0An0Uz05f\ 03m02Z05UA6PK9KfAHdCCvO6zX3zcCzAKr3Sc0`D0h30p00x00\ z00x09q0Im0Uf0d`2nW5yP9zIAzDFzAIq6Mc3PP0SA0W00U02U\ 06U0CU0IS0NS0SS0ZS0cS0hU5fW9dXDcZHbZM``PZbUXcXWdbU\ ddSfiRhmPiqNktMkxMmyZmykmzxmzznyzpxzqvzstytsvvqtxp\ qynpzmmzkkzihzhfzfczdbzcZzbXzXRqUKhPDZM9PH2FD05A0M\ HzRMzURzXUz`Zzcczffzcnzbvp`zcZzPXzCfv6p`2yD0z00z00\ z09z0Hz3Pz6XzAczDkzHszKzzNzzRzvSzsUzpWzkWzhXzdZzb`\ zX`zUbzRczNdzIdyFfxChv9hvImySqzbvzizzkyzmxxmxtnvpp\ vmptiqsdssbsqZtqUvpRvpNpnUin`dnfZmmSmsNmxRqzStzWyz\ Xzz`zzbzz`zy`zmZz`ZzMXz9Xz0Xz0izN`z0bz0cz0dz0fz0hz\ 2iz5kz9mzCnzFpzIqzMszPtzSvzWczzdzzfzzhzzizzizzkzzm\ zynzvnztpzqqznszkszhtzdvzbxzZkzzmzznzzpzzpzxqztszp\ tzmtzhvzdxz`zzizzhzzfzzfzzdzzdzzczzczzbzz`zz`zzZyz\ ZxzX0z0Cz0Pz5`zFzzPzzS0z0 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:00:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 13-06-01 (Cerberus [7]) Classic FOTD -- June 13, 2001 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: I named today's FOTD "Cerberus" when, for some reason, I was reminded of the gates of hades. (I used the *good* word for that place down there.) In ancient mythology, Cerberus was the watchdog of Hades, who treated the entering souls with kindness, but ate any souls that tried to escape. Descriptions of the monstrous hound vary, but according to most reports it had at least three heads with poisonous bites, and several snake-like tails. Today's fractal comes nowhere near being a hound of the underworld, but with it's strings of bof60 bubbles and mysterious glowing fiery pyramid in the background, it does have just enough of a surrealistic quality to justify the name. To create the image, I returned to number 4 in my series of 12 MandNewt formulae, a series I have been woefully ignoring lately. The formulae are variations of the Ikenaga function, and I'm still not sure what the Ikenaga function is supposed to accomplish, or why its creator seems to have disowned it. I have rated the image a 7 -- a rating perhaps a bit liberal -- but the colors blend quite well, with the bands in the spheres at the bottom being virtually invisible. Perhaps I'll devote more effort to images such as today's in the future. One thing for sure is that the midgets are starting to become a bit routine. The 8-1/2 minute render time can be avoided by giving Paul and Scott a chance to post the GIF image to their web sites and downloading it from there. Paul's site is at: and Scott's can be found at: The fractal weather today was typical of summer in this part of the world, with hazy sun, 89F (31.5C) heat, humidity, and evening thunder-showers in the area. The fractal cats, who enjoy such conditions, except for the thunder, enjoyed the day. As for myself, I'll find my enjoyment when the day's work is finished. And the only way to finish is to start. Until next time, take care, and be careful to avoid the hound of Cerberus. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Cerberus { ; time=0:08:28.77--SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=mandnewt04 passes=1 center-mag=0.221881/2.99156/2.308161/1/-82.5 params=-2.7/0.32/-2.8/-2.21/0.35/-2.04 float=y maxiter=250 inside=bof60 logmap=yes periodicity=0 colors=000_pz_pyZoyZoxZnxYnwWmwWmvVlvVluUkuUktSjtS\ jsRisRirQhrQhqOgqOgpQfpOfoOeoOenOdnOdmNcmNclNblNbk\ NakNajM`jM`iM_iM_hMZhLZgLYgLYfLXfLXeLWeJWdJVdJVcJU\ cJUbJTbITaISaIS`IR`IR_HQ_HQZHPZHPYHOYHOXGNXGNWGMWG\ MVGLVGLUEKUEKTEJTEJSEISDIRDHRDHQDGQDGPDFPCFOCEOCEN\ CDNCDMDCMCCLCBLCBKCAKCAJC9JC9IC8IC8HC7HC7GC6GC6FC5\ FA5EA4EA4DA3DA3CA2CA2BA4BA4AA4AA49A49A48A489479479\ 46946945945944944943943942C42E41H41J10M40O50R60U80\ W95ZAAaAFcAKdANeANfAMgAMhALiALjAJkAJlAImAInAHoAHyc\ 8xb6wa5v`4u_2tZ1sY0rX0qW0pV0oU0nT0mS0lR0kQ0UWUSWUR\ YUQZUO_UNaUMbUJcVIdVHfVGgVEhVDhVCjVAkV9lV8mV6oV5pV\ 4rV2sV1tV0uV0uS0uU0uV0uW1uW2uY4uZ5uZ8u_9uaAuaCubDu\ cEudGudHufJugLugMuhNujOujQukRulUumVumWuoYupZup_ura\ usaxtbwsbusbusctscsrcsrcrrdrrdppdopdopfmpfloflofko\ gkogjmghmhhmhgmhflhfljdljdljckjbkkbkkakk_jk_jlZjlZ\ jlYhmWhcLmcLmbMmbMoaNoaNo } frm:MandNewt04 {; Jim Muth z=c=pixel: a=z^3+(c-1)*z-c b=p1*z^2+c-1 z=z-p2*a/b p3 <= |a| } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:28:47 -0400 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Copyright infringement Hi All, I've been contacted by the owner of this site: who is asking my permission to use some of my fractals on his site, and= who also begs my pardon for having always posted some of them. Although = he clearly says he is not the author of the images and mentions for most (bu= t not all) of them the author and the source of the image, I asked him to remove my images from his site. He is probably in the process of contacting all the authors of the imag= es he's using, but if you haven't been contacted yet, you may be interested.= Cheers, - Sylvie - ----------------------------------------------- E-mail: Sylvie_Gallet@CompuServe.com Web site: http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/homepage.htm - ----------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:44:19 -0700 (PDT) From: caren Subject: Re: (fractint) Copyright infringement there were a few there that looked like they could have been some of my very early work, but had different names (and authors)... i saw a few by damien jones, too, attributed correctly... while i generally like his taste/choices, i suppose someone will have to go in there and explain to him what copyright infringement is all about... 00 caren - --- Sylvie Gallet wrote: > Hi All, > > I've been contacted by the owner of this site: > > > > who is asking my permission to use some of my fractals on his site, > and > who also begs my pardon for having always posted some of them. > Although he > clearly says he is not the author of the images and mentions for most > (but > not all) of them the author and the source of the image, I asked him > to > remove my images from his site. > > He is probably in the process of contacting all the authors of the > images > he's using, but if you haven't been contacted yet, you may be > interested. > > Cheers, > > - Sylvie > > ----------------------------------------------- > E-mail: > Sylvie_Gallet@CompuServe.com > Web site: > http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/homepage.htm > ----------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:53:26 -0600 From: dmj@fractalus.com Subject: (fractint) tantrapages Sylvie, I already sent Anatoly e-mail about his site, saying he should explicitly state that he has permission from the artists to display the images, and then make sure he really does have permission, by contacting the artists. I offered to help him identify the remaining images in his collection so that he can properly obtain permission; I expect he is contacting anyone he doesn't have permission from yet. I did give him permission to use my images, provided that the attributions are present. I would probably withdraw that permission if he continued to post images for which he did not have explicit permission. - --Damien - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:27:03 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) Re: [fractal-art] Copyright infringement Sylvie Gallet wrote: > > I've been contacted by the owner of this site: > > Anatoly Goifman (a 28 year old Russian born Jew) states the following on the About page: "I respect copyright of any web artist." And then later states: "Most of fractal images with provided links are posted with the artist permission ! Otherwise I am waiting to receive it or I shall withdraw the pictures." The site appears to have been recently established. So that person may truely be attempting to contact everyone. Sincerely, P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:34:13 -0500 From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: [fractal-art] Copyright infringement "Paul N. Lee" wrote: > > > Anatoly Goifman (a 28 year old Russian born Jew) states the following on > the About page: > Hi Paul; What does his being 28 years old have to do with the issue at hand? What does his being Russian have to do with the issue at hand? What does his being Jewish have to do with the issue at hand? Best regards, Bob - -- ************************************ Alcohol and calculus don't mix - PLEASE don't drink and derive. ************************************ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:57:24 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) Re: [fractal-art] Copyright infringement Bob Margolis wrote: > > What does his being 28 years old have > to do with the issue at hand? > What does his being Russian have > to do with the issue at hand? > What does his being Jewish have > to do with the issue at hand? > Only that he is young, comes from one country and is living in another, and may not be familiar with such things as copyright infringement. Those that are older, and usually with more experience, most often know about such things. Also, that English is not his native tongue, which is where most of the copyright information is obatined these days. It was only an extremely short summation of his About web page to possibly explain his actions of not contacting artists initially. Nothing more or less. Why, do you have some other reasoning behind my statements?? P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:17:27 -0500 From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: [fractal-art] Copyright infringement "Paul N. Lee" wrote: > > Bob Margolis wrote: > > > > What does his being 28 years old have > > to do with the issue at hand? > > What does his being Russian have > > to do with the issue at hand? > > What does his being Jewish have > > to do with the issue at hand? > > > > Only that he is young, comes from one country and is living in another, > and may not be familiar with such things as copyright infringement. > > Those that are older, and usually with more experience, most often know > about such things. Also, that English is not his native tongue, which > is where most of the copyright information is obatined these days. It > was only an extremely short summation of his About web page to possibly > explain his actions of not contacting artists initially. Nothing more > or less. > > Why, do you have some other reasoning behind my statements?? > I was just curious as to why his age, country of origin and religion were of importance to the discussion. In your reply you say why you mentioned his age and his being Russian as possibly having something to do with whether he is aware of and understands what copyright is all about, but you did not say what connection there is between his being Jewish and his alleged copyright infringement. Would you kindly enlighten me? Thank you. Respectfully, Bob - -- ************************************ Alcohol and calculus don't mix - PLEASE don't drink and derive. ************************************ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #572 ******************************