From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #606 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Tuesday, October 23 2001 Volume 01 : Number 606 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:54:49 -0500 From: the_juggernaut@juno.com Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 18-10-01 (Chambered Nautili [8]) Hello. I just joined this list, but I've been using Fractint for years. I have version 20.0 (I downloaded it again yesterday to make sure), but none of these FOTD par files are working. On this one it says fmod isn't a valid option for outside coloring; in the alien one, there are 4 parameters in the formula, but my Fractint has a maximum of three. Is there a new version that I just can't find or am I not doing something right? Jon K. On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:13:30 EDT JimMuth@aol.com writes: > > FOTD -- October 18, 2001 (Rating 8) > > Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: > > Today's image reminds me of a poem we studied in school. I was > in about the 6th grade and I had the task of memorizing and > reciting the poem. I can still remember the title, something > like "The Chambered Nautilus", and the first line, which is > something like 'Build thee more stately mansions oh my soul,'. > I hadn't thought of that little poem for many years, that is > not until 9pm, when I saw today's image. > > There before me curled an infinity of chambered nautili. I > immediately named the image "Chambered Nautili" and rated it an > exceptional 8. The iterated formula subtracts 11 parts of > Z^(-11) from one negative part of Z^(-1.1) and adds 1/C. The > parent fractal resembles an irregular half-moon, with today's > image located on the northern cusp of the moon. > > The image, which consists of as much inside as outside, is a > showpiece of the under-used option. Both inside and > outside are colored with this option. When rendered in the > manner I normally use, the image rates no more than a 4. > > The 6-minute render time is bearable but barely so. Relief is > at hand however on the W.W.Web at: > > > > and at: > > > > where, within the hour, the GIF image will be posted. > > The fractal weather today was quite Autumn-like, with brisk > winds, blue skies filled with dark scudding clouds, flurries of > falling leaves, and a temperature of 55F 13C. All this activity > left the Dynamic Duo perplexed. They decided to spend most of > the day in the window, becoming huffed up whenever another cat > came into sight, and wishing conditions were a bit better. > > As for me -- I wish the day's work were finished. > Unfortunately, the only way I know to bring about this condition > is to get started. So it's time to shift from fractal mode to > graphic design mode. Until next time, take care, and I wonder > why complex numbers make fractals. > > > Jim Muth > jamth@mindspring.com > > > START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ > > Chambered_Nautili { ; time=0:06:45.46--SF5 on a P200 > reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm > formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 > center-mag=-0.35143906289108950/+0.988561362993019\ > 80/132835.6/1/47.5000000010857306/-2.9587169658729\ > 0955e-009 params=-1/-1.1/-11/-11/0/0 float=y > maxiter=2500 inside=fmod proximity=1.5 outside=fmod > colors=000dSUdRTePReOQeNPeMOeLNfKLfJKfIJfHIfGHgEFg\ > DEgCDgBCgABh99h88h77h66j24i45h55g66f86e97dA7cC8bD8\ > aE9`G9`HA_IAZKBYLBXMCWNCVPDUQDTRESTESUERVFQXFPYGOZ\ > GN`HMaHLbIKcIJeJIfJIgKHiKGjLFkLEmMDnMCoNBqNArO9sOA\ > vM9uN9tO9sO8sP8rP8qQ8pR7pR7oS7nS6nT6mU6lU6kV5kV5jW\ > 5iX4iX4hY4gY4fZ3f_3e_3d`2gc3d`4bZ5`W6ZU7XR7VP8TM9R\ > KAOIBMFBKDCIADG8EE5FC3FA1HB3IB5JC7KC8LCAMDCNDDODFP\ > EHQEIREKSFMTFNUFPVGRWGTXGUYHWZHY_HZ`I`aIbbIccJedJg\ > eJhfKjgKljLohKmgKlfKkeKidJhcJgbJeaJd`Ic_IaZI`YI_XH\ > YWHXUHWTHUSGTRGSQGQPGPOFONFMMFLLFKKEIJEHIEGHEFJIIK\ > KKLNNMQPOTRPWUQZWRaYTc`UebVgdWigYki`mkconfqphsrasr\ > aqp`oo`mm_kl000000000Ycf000X_cXYaWW`000VSYVQWUOV00\ > 0TKS000SGPSENP2NR7MSCMUHMVMMXRLYWL_`L`eLbjKcoKetKf\ > xKgxMixPjxSkxUmxXnxZoxaqxdrxfsxzuxzvxzwxzxxzyuzyrz\ > yozylzyjzygjydiyagyZfyXdyUcyRayO`yM_kHcZDfM9j95mA8\ > lAAlBDkBFkBHjcWZdVXdUWdTV > } > > frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth > a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), > g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, > k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): > z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, > |z| < l > } > > END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion > List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:03:18 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 18-10-01 (Chambered Nautili [8]) Jon K. wrote: > > I have version 20.0 (I downloaded it again > yesterday to make sure), but none of these > FOTD par files are working. You will need to get the latest Developer's version 20.2 from here: http://www.fractint.org/ But that will not be available until the Fractalus server becomes available again (been down since October 10th). :-( Sincerely, P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:13:03 -0500 From: Programmer Dude Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 19-10-01 (Midget Distortion [6]) JimMuth@aol.com wrote: > I named the picture "Midget Distortion" because it is distorted > to the point where it resembles a leering face more than a > Mandelbrot midget. Yeah, looks like another alien! Only this one looks MUCH friendlier. That other one was downright scary!! [shudder] - -- |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | |_____________________________________________|_______________________| - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:58:06 +1300 From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 18-10-01 (Chambered Nautili [8]) At 09:13 18/10/2001 -0400, JimMuth@aol.com wrote: >Until next time, take care, and I wonder >why complex numbers make fractals. Not the numbers themselves, but nonlinear dynamics in the space of complex numbers do. Morgan L. Owens "I could recommend several books on the subject." - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 00:18:41 -0400 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractalus down? Jean-Pierre, - I hope he has full backups. I have complete backups of all the web material (and I made a few extra copies, just to be sure) but I did lose a few things. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 00:18:40 -0400 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractalus down? Paul, - Same with the Lists, the IFL, etc.... Lists are a separate issue I've yet to deal with. The IFL should be back online now. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 00:18:39 -0400 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractalus down? David, - Still getting "server down or not responding" messages as - of now ... will keep checking back later. Yep, I've had a busy work week. More sites are back up now, including fractint.org. More will appear as the night goes on. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:16:40 EDT From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) FOTD 20-10-01 (Spots Before the Eyes [6]) FOTD -- October 20, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's image, which appeared when 2 parts of Z^(-13.33) was added to half as much Z^(-1.333), has spots all through it. Resembling colonies of thriving bacteria, they surround the straight-rayed midget like cultures in a petri dish. But with the world situation as it is, the thought of 'bacteria' can throw fear into the hearts of the fearless. Not wanting to throw fear, I decided to name today's image "Spots Before the Eyes". It's a nice (meaning I can find little else to praise it for) image, with a slightly (so slight that few will notice) different (something is not quite right) color scheme. Despite its flaws however, I rated the image at a slightly above average 6. The parameter file requires a wait of 7 minutes for the image to finish. The image can be seen in less time by visiting Paul's web site at: or Scott's site at: And downloading it from there. Perfect Autumn weather once again prevailed today here at Fractal Central, with sunny skies and a temperature of 66F 19C. The cats rated the day an 8, and celebrated by sleeping on the porch. When I last checked, Philofractal was still down, which means the philosophy is still accumulating. But upon reading the backup a week or more after I wrote it, some of the philosophy now strikes me as less enlightening than it seemed when I wrote it. So the philosophy is still coming, but not quite as much of it. And I'm about to celebrate the start of a weekend by doing as close to nothing as is possible. A day of absolute perfection, in which I accomplish absolutely nothing, is obviously impossible, but despite my best intentions, I keep trying. Until tomorrow, take care, and it's not the numbers that create fractals, it's the non-linear dynamics, which are represented by numbers. I guess there's a difference. Maybe I'd best forget numbers and concentrate on raising the hamiltonian, whatever that is. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ SpotsBeforeTheEyes { ; time=0:06:40.90--SF5 on a P200 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+1.82669565058513400/-0.035741258189567\ 48/1.253678e+011/1/79.9997671635828738/0.001693038\ 0670311107 params=1/-1.333/2/-13.33/0/800 float=y maxiter=800 inside=0 logmap=131 colors=000ZRKvjqcXXpikhbg`WcUQ_MJWECS76Ompzhjrdek_\ _dWVYRPRNKKJFDKHGKJIPLKPNMUPOURQZUSZZUcaHcg5hiKhkU\ noUnpVttLtuBzx1zx3to5tk6i`8iY9c9Bc2CM2GQ2JU2NX2QT9\ VQGZMMbJTgFZkCeo9ksIlqUloclmrmkwmizmhzjfzmehdddac`\ ZaXW`TT_PRZLU_HX`D_`9ba5eb2gb4YU5PM6GD7756EC5KI4QP\ 3XV2ba1hg1nmDpnPqo`rpksqlpkmmfnj`rhWweQzbLz`GzWFwS\ ErOEmKDlGCkCCj8Bi4Bh9JgDQfHXeLddPkcTrYNsSHtMBuG5vB\ 0wVSymszlnpligkeYk`PkXGhRFeLFbGF_AFX5FZCG_JG`PGaWG\ cbGdhGeoGfuGboIZiKVdLRZNOUOSXLWZJZaHbcEefCihAlj8nh\ AogCpeErdGsbItaKqQGoECm39hCBdKC`SDW_FSgGOoHShOVbVZ\ XaaRhdLofNqhOsjQtlRvnTxoUyrNnuHcxBTz5IyLFy`CyoAuZN\ qI_m1lj7ngCpdHraMtZRvXWx3o4CkLKhaPfYTeVYdSacPebMjg\ InkEroBokHlhMjdSgaXdYbbVgdZfeadgebiiajm_lqYmtXhsUd\ rS`rQWsOStMOuKKvIFwGBxE7yC3zA9zBFzBLzBRzCXzCbzCazG\ azJazM`zP`zS`zW_zZ_za_zd_zgZzfYzfXzfWzeVzeUzeTzdSz\ dRzdRzdSzbSzaTz`TzZUzYUzX } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 12:03:25 EDT From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) FOTD 21-10-01 (Look the Other Way [6]) FOTD -- October 21, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: I named today's 6-rated image "Look the Other Way". It seemed a reasonable name in light of the odd nature of today's scene, which lies in the Julibrot, but is neither a Mandelbrot set nor a hole in a Julia set. It is actually what I call an Elliptic set, a slice through a hole in the Julibrot in the orientation defined by imag(z) and real(c). In the Mandelbrot set, the hole appears as a midget deep in a star of a period-19 radical in East Valley. It is actually quite an attractive midget. When sliced in the Elliptic direction, the hole appears shaped somewhat like a comma. The pattern around it is similar to the pattern that surrounds the Mandelbrot and Julia aspects of the same 4-dimensional hole. The parameter file runs in just under 10 minutes. The GIF image is also available on the W.W.Web at: and at: The weather today, fractal weather that is, was perfect. The fractal cats rejoiced in the bright sun, gentle breezes and temperature of 75F 24C. The birds, butterflies and squirrels also rejoiced, keeping the cats amused. No philosophy today, but lots of relaxation on the way. So until next time and next fractal, take care, and watch out for that loose hypersphere. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Look_the_Other_Way { ; time=0:09:32.86--SF5 on a P200 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=slices.frm formulaname=Elliptic passes=1 center-mag=+0.000000\ 00004423212/-0.00000000002221295/2.333694e+008/0.2\ 271/-85.3597450306568106/85.4023337745133944 params=0.2759496837192636/0.00691711682698/0.27594\ 96837192636/0.00691711682698 float=y maxiter=6000 inside=0 logmap=-987 colors=050f5ai5bl5do5fr5gv5iy5kz5lz5nz5oz5qz6qx8qt\ BqqDqnHrkJrfMrbOr_RrWTtTWtQXtN`tIatFevBgv8jv4kv1ov\ 0pvBoxNmy_kzkjzxhzzhzzctvZkoUaiPRbJIWB8Q50K50L50N5\ 0NA0PF0PK0QP0QU0RX0Rb0Tg0Tk0Wk0Yh0af0bc0f`0gZ0kW0l\ U0oR0qP0rO0vM0xK0zJ0zH0zF0zD0zB0zA0z80z60z50zA0zD0\ zJ0zM0zP0zU0xX0ta0qe0oh0lm0ip0fu0bx0az0Wz0Tz0Qz0Nz\ 0Iz0Fz0Bz08z02z00z10z20z40z60wB0sF0pK0mN0jQ0gV0cY0\ `a0Wf0Ti0Pl0Mq0Jt0Fx0Bz08z05z08z0Az0Dy1Fv2Jr4Ko8Ol\ 9PiBTfFUbGX_IZYL`VNcRPePRhLTjIVmFYoB_r8as4dw1fx0gz\ 0dz0az2Yz6Vz9RzDPzGNzIKzLGzPDzR9zV6zY2za1zb0zf0zi0\ zl0zo0zr0zt0zx0zz6zzDzzKzzRzzYzzdzzbzzazzazz_xzYwz\ YszWrzVozVmzTjzThzVkzVmzVozWpzWrzWszYwzYxzYzz_zz_z\ z_zzazzazzazzbzzbzzbzzbzzfzzizzlzznzzqzztzzxzzyzzz\ zzzzzzzzzzzzxzrwzkuzbrzVpzNozPpzQpzRpzTpzVpzWpzYpz\ Ypz_pzapzbpzdpzfpzgpzgpzipzkpzlpznpzopzqpzqpzrszru\ zrwzrxztzztzzlzzozzqzzrzz } frm:Elliptic {; Jim Muth imag(z),real(c) z=flip(imag(pixel))+p1, c=real(pixel)+p2: z=sqr(z)+c, |z| <= 16 } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:38:24 -0400 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) fractalus sites & mailing lists Greetings folks, As many of you probably know, my server had a catastrophic hardware failure on the 10th. Unfortunately the piece of hardware in question was a hard drive. While I was able to preserve all of the web content, and I've been working all this past week to bring those back online, the subscriber databases for all the mailing lists did not survive. The bulk of the web sites are now back online; these include fractalus.com, contest2k.com, fractint.org, and ultrafractal.com. If you encounter any problems with these sites, please let me know. It's all supposed to work. :) If you were previously subscribed to any of the following mailing lists, you will need to re-subscribe. They are running now but few have re-subscribed. Fractal-Art For general discussions of fractal art, including discussions on printing, selling, or marketing fractal art. Announcements of new galleries, exhibitions (especially those in art galleries), contests, art fairs, and so on are appropriate. To subscribe, send mail to: fractal-art-subscribe@lists.fractalus.com PhiloFractal For discussions about the philosophical side of fractals, what they mean about life, the universe, and everything. To subscribe, send mail to: philofractal-subscribe@lists.fractalus.com UltraFractal Specifically geared towards the Ultra Fractal software by Frederik Slijkerman. This is the official support list. Questions about how to use the software, tutorials, general posting and exchange of image parameters, etc. are appropriate for this list. To subscribe, send mail to: ultrafractal-subscribe@lists.fractalus.com I apologize for the service interruption and have taken steps to make sure it can't happen again. This is a general announcement and may be forwarded freely. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:48:32 EDT From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) FOTD 22-10-01 (Maltese Minibrot [7]) FOTD -- October 22, 2001 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: When I saw today's image, it reminded me of something that I couldn't place. Then I recognized the pattern around the midget as a crudely-formed Maltese cross. The name "Maltese Minibrot" followed shortly. IMO, it's an above-average image with an unusually vivid purple, well worth the rating of 7. The iterated formula takes 0.01 part of Z^(-1.5) and adds one part of Z^2 to it. 1/100th part of Z^(-1.5) is very small, but that tiny amount makes a world of the difference in the appearance of the resulting parent figure. The parent fractal appears as a Mandelbrot set with its shorelines obliterated by clutter, its main bay filled with an island of debris, and its main bud clogged to the extent that only a tiny hole remains in the center of the debris. This hole is shaped like a curiously distorted mini-M-set, which has started to split apart at both its east and west extremities. Today's midget lies in the northwest suburbs of a larger midget, which lies just inland of the south shore of the East Valley of the distorted M-set that lies at the center of the mass of debris clogging the main bud of the parent M-set. It takes longer to describe the location than it does to back out of today's image and see the location in person. As for seeing today's image itself -- that can be accomplished in 8-1/2 minutes or less by running the parameter file, or even faster by visiting Paul's web site at: or Scott's site at: where the image will soon be posted. Today's fractal weather was again perfect -- blue skies, light winds, and a temperature of 79F 26C. The fractal cats had a great day, climaxed by a nip of catnip, which had them rolling in ecstasy. They then spent the rest of the day sleeping it off. The philofractal list is once again operational, but at this time only a few have re-subscribed. I'll hold off on the fractal philosophy until I see a reasonable degree of activity on the philo-list. I fear that if I posted the wisdom now, very few would see it. Well, I notice that the clock on the wall above me says 9:40am, signalling that the moment to get to work has arrived, so until next time, when I'll try to describe the geography of an imaginary four-dimensional hyperspherical planet, take care and don't forget to re-subscribe to philofractal. 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Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractalus sites & mailing lists Damien M. Jones wrote: > > PhiloFractal > > I apologize for the service interruption and > have taken steps to make sure it can't happen > again. This List was not re-established the same way as it had been, nor as the others were re-setup. For one thing, the REPLY-TO field is not there, so any replies will go to the SENDER and not to the List. Sincerely, P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:52:52 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 22-10-01 (Maltese Minibrot [7]) JimMuth@aol.com wrote: > > I'll hold off on the fractal philosophy until > I see a reasonable degree of activity on the > philo-list. I fear that the List may have never had a large Membership in the first place, since only about a dozen names appear there on a somewhat irregular basis. But I do know that my hosting of your philosophy FOTD version (on the web), usually gets viewed by several dozen individuals. > > I fear that if I posted the wisdom now, very > few would see it. This could be either good or bad, depending on one's point of view. ;-} Sincerely, P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:47:59 -0500 From: bmc1@airmail.net Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: FOTD 17-10-01 (Humanoid Alien) Recent Botany literature - and my old college textbook - allege that largest living entity on the planet is actually a single, non-contiguous, but linked (see below) group of aspens, which extends through parts of 6 states in the Rockies: Northern New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, Montana and Idaho.

As aspens propagate themselves by underground rhizomes (sometimes as long as 100 miles and as deep as 50ft) - each "new" sapling is merely an above-ground manifestation of the subterranean part of the original plant. Continuity (and proof that they are all the same plant) is further ensured by the fact that even when a given tree becomes senescent after 1-200 years, it in fact doesn't die, but merely "rejuvenates": a genetically identical, but "new" appearing tree arises from the stump, rootball and other remnants of it "parent (which is its {"Greatx10^12"} Granddaddy, [or Grandmother in deference to Ms Gibbs in the UK]).

Rhizomal propagation is coincidentally also suggested to be the mechanism by which the species has survived possible eradication by forest fire, earthquakes, massive volcanic eruptions, meteor/comet strikes and prolonged drought (e.g., the 30-50-yr drought ca. 1180-1210AD which was severe enough to wipe out the Anasazi culture), as well as the more modern deforestation due to clear-cutting, deep root plowing, overgrazing, herbicides, etc.

The the original tree is thought to be in NW Colorado and >100,000 yrs old. Anyone have evidence to the contrary?. And do you have the citation about the underground fungus??

Sorry for the OT, but thought other readers might just possibly be into esoterica. ;-)

D. Freed

Programmer Dude wrote:

JimMuth@aol.com wrote:

> Also, when I re-read what I wrote, I wonder how a puddle that for
> dozens of years just sits there unchanged, immobile and unthinking
> like an oil spill could be considered a living entity.

I was going to say, like an old oak tree, but that fails the
"unchanged" part of the equation.  How about a giant, dormant
underground fungus?  (I heard once there's one in Alaska that
is the largest living entity on the planet--miles across...)

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- -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 19:25:10 +1300 From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: FOTD 17-10-01 (Humanoid Alien) At 15:47 22/10/2001 -0500, bmc1@airmail.net wrote: >Sorry for the OT, but thought other readers might just possibly be into >esoterica. ;-) Not that off-topic, so long as you can dig up a map of the rhizomal network :-) Morgan L. Owens "Lesson No 34: The Larch" - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:47:15 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: FOTD 17-10-01 (Humanoid Alien) bmc1@airmail.net wrote: > > The original tree is thought to be in > NW Colorado and >100,000 yrs old. Last week, someone on the east side of Dallas brought part of those aspens back from that area of Colorado. Want one of the logs?? :-) > > And do you have the citation about the > underground fungus?? > > Programmer Dude wrote: > > > > I heard once there's one in Alaska that > > is the largest living entity on the planet-- > > miles across... Yes, I saw that same episode of the X-Files. Though the story line is based on a smidgen of fact, I do not believe it is really located in Alaska. P.N.L. - -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:05:37 EDT From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) FOTD 23-10-01 (Something Different [7]) FOTD -- October 23, 2001 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: The four-dimensional hypersphere -- the locus of a point in four- dimensional hyperspace which is at a constant distance from a fixed point -- in other words, a four-dimensional ball -- perhaps the simplest hyperfigure. All two-dimensional slices of a hypersphere of any number of dimensions appear as circles; all three-dimensional slices are spheres. The surface of the 4-D hypersphere, as well as the surface of all 4-D figures is three-dimensional -- in the hypersphere, it is a space of constant curvature. Though we cannot visualize a curved space, we can visualize limited portions of it, which, if the hypersphere is large enough, will seem like ordinary 'flat' 3-D space, in the same manner as a limited portion of the earth's surface appears flat. On the 3-D surface of an imaginary 4-D hyperplanet, there are six cardinal directions -- north, east, south, west, up, and down. The up and down directions do not lead up into the sky or down into the ground -- they are additional directions which lead around the surface of the planet and meet at the antipode. A 4-D hyperplanet has an equator -- an imaginary great circle line around its center. Like on the earth, this equator marks the center of the tropical zone, where the climate is constantly warm. But, unlike the earth with its two point-poles, a 4-D hyperplanet also has a polar circle -- a great circle completely around the planet, which marks the center of the area of frigid climatic conditions. All points of the polar circle are 90 degrees from all points of the equatorial circle. On a 4-D planet, it is possible to circumnavigate the hyperglobe in a straight line and never leave the coldness of the polar region. To define a point in the surface-volume of a hyperplanet, three sets of coordinates are necessary. In the next FOTD I'll go into several ways this might be done. Right now, it's time to get to today's image. I named the image "Something Different". Resembling a scene in a tropical rain forest, the image is not really all that different, but, considering that the features surrounding the midget were produced by the basic equal-iteration coloring method, the image is rather unusual. Whether the image deserves its rating of 7 is up to the individual viewer to decide. The render time of 6 minutes is only slightly annoying, and the download, which may be found at: and at: is even less annoying. The fractal weather today was perfect. The warm sun, light winds, and temperature of 79F 26C kept the fractal cats both happy and outdoors. But I won't be happy until the day's work is done. And the way to get it done is to get it started, so until next time, take care, and take it easy. 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Lee" wrote: >>> I heard once there's one in Alaska that >>> is the largest living entity on the planet-- >>> miles across... > > Yes, I saw that same episode of the X-Files. Though the story line is > based on a smidgen of fact, I do not believe it is really located in > Alaska. I was close.... sorta. Turns out to be in the Pacific NW. (I've never watched X-Files, so I must have heard it somewhere else. :-) - -- |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | |_____________________________________________|_______________________| - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #606 ******************************