From: Eric Herrmann Subject: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info Date: 01 Mar 2002 12:22:24 -0700 The December, January and February mail archives have been posted to the website. US: Amazon is listing "Angry Lead Skies" for release by ROC in April 2002. Russia: "Serditie svincovie nebesa" is expected from AST in September 2002. Dread Empire to be re-released in 2003. France: "La pointe d'argent" was released by L'Atlante in February 2002. Great Cover. -- This mailing list is sponsored by The Glen Cook Fan Page at: . The mailing list archives and instructions of how to subscribe or unsubscribe can be found at: . The mailing list FAQ can be found at: . The mailing list exclusive Glen Cook Bibliography can be found at: . -- Eric Herrmann

======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Troy Lefman Subject: (glencook-fans) Angry Lead Skies Date: 11 Mar 2002 09:25:42 +0000 I have found a pair of links regarding Angry Lead Skies for those interested. http://www.sfbookcase.com/viewbook.asp?bookno=4582 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0451458753/ref=br_b_nr_2/103-2704261-3985457 Troy ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "don" Subject: (glencook-fans) Spoilers!!! Heirs of Babylon Date: 15 Mar 2002 23:02:49 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1CC75.87657DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I finally got through Heirs, (not because it wasn't good, I just didn't = have time). Let me know if I got this right guys. High command was = running both sides of the war right? So what was with the atom bomb at = the end???=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1CC75.87657DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Dennis -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Troy Lefman Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:26 AM I have found a pair of links regarding Angry Lead Skies for those interested. http://www.sfbookcase.com/viewbook.asp?bookno=4582 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0451458753/ref=br_b_nr_2/103-2704261- 3985457 Troy ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Patterson - Editor d' Ooze Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Angry Lead Skies Date: 17 Mar 2002 13:48:52 -0800 > Amazon shows that it ships in 24 hours now. I checked my local bookstores > and no one had it yet, so I ordered it. Has anyone gotten it yet? Yep! I got mine from amazon yesterday. It's good so far... -matt Ooze magazine Ooze.com ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Llaneza Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Spoilers!!! Heirs of Babylon Date: 17 Mar 2002 23:39:03 -0800 each side's High Command was in collaboration. I'm still a little shaky on the nuke tho, possibly the idea was to use up the last of the war machines. The other option was that the war had become ritual sacrifice by that point. From Cook, either is likely. don wrote: > > I finally got through Heirs, (not because it wasn't good, I just > didn't have time). Let me know if I got this right guys. High command > was running both sides of the war right? So what was with the atom > bomb at the end??? ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "APZK" Subject: (glencook-fans) English names. Date: 25 Mar 2002 20:16:56 +0300 I have only russian version of "Garret files". Please, help me. What is rebelian general's name? In english version it is "Slavy Duraleynik", but I think that it is not transcription of his english name. ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Herrmann Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) English names. Date: 25 Mar 2002 10:30:53 -0700 on 3/25/02 10:16 AM, APZK at korobka@beep.ru wrote: > I have only russian version of "Garret files". Please, help me. What is > rebelian general's name? In english version it is "Slavy Duraleynik", but I > think that it is not transcription of his english name. You mean Glory Mooncalled? -- Eric Herrmann ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stacey Harris Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) English names. Date: 25 Mar 2002 12:48:45 -0600 Eric, I've read, I think, 5 Garrett books now, including the first three, the fifth, and the one that came out last year. And I have yet to see any iota of sense in the name "Glory Mooncalled"--for instance, any indication that anyone else in the series has a first name which is an abstract noun or a second name which is a (very strange) participle. Am I missing something? Steve ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Chilton Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) English names. Date: 25 Mar 2002 15:09:06 -0400 Stacey Harris wrote: > > Eric, > > I've read, I think, 5 Garrett books now, including the first three, the > fifth, and the one that came out last year. And I have yet to see any > iota of sense in the name "Glory Mooncalled"--for instance, any > indication that anyone else in the series has a first name which is an > abstract noun or a second name which is a (very strange) participle. > > Am I missing something? > I've got the feeling that Glory Mooncalled is an assumed name, or a name given to it's holder by a less advanced people (like the centaurs?). Remember that the general switched sides after he was backstabbed, maybe he renounced his name when that happened? Glory - well, he's a great general and earns lots of glory. Mooncalled - Called by the spirits of the moon? The gods of the moon? The moon as a symbol of change? This is why I think it's a name from a less advanced people; I can see some tribe somewhere saying the general is mooncalled and it sticking. Maybe at one time he was General Fred Common, Holder of Glory and declared Mooncalled by the Great Centaur Council and after he switched sides decided he didn't want to deal with relatives of anyone that General Fred Common had killed so just used his titles? Or maybe it's a warname - he is a merc and might not tales of his exploits to travel home. Since few (except his loyal troops) knew what he looked like if he had to drop from sight he could hide by using his real name and avoid truth spells that way. Or maybe his parents (Mr. and Mrs. Mooncalled) just wanted to inspire him to seek Glory and gave him the name the way people used to use virture names like Hope, Faith, Patience, etc? I don't think there's anything in any of the books that explains it. As for descriptive names - I seem to remember a few that were in other languages. "Dawn's Mercy/Madness" comes to mind. Richard ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stacey Harris Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) English names. Date: 25 Mar 2002 12:48:45 -0600 Eric, I've read, I think, 5 Garrett books now, including the first three, the fifth, and the one that came out last year. And I have yet to see any iota of sense in the name "Glory Mooncalled"--for instance, any indication that anyone else in the series has a first name which is an abstract noun or a second name which is a (very strange) participle. Am I missing something? Steve ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Dutton Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) English names. Date: 25 Mar 2002 10:58:54 -0800 (PST) --- Stacey Harris wrote: > Eric, > > I've read, I think, 5 Garrett books now, including the first three, the > fifth, and the one that came out last year. And I have yet to see any > iota of sense in the name "Glory Mooncalled"--for instance, any > indication that anyone else in the series has a first name which is an > abstract noun or a second name which is a (very strange) participle. > > Am I missing something? That it is likely his nom du guerre, i.e. an assumed name designed to make him sound more impressive? > > Steve > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jake Kesinger Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) English names. Date: 25 Mar 2002 13:22:01 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Craig Dutton wrote: > --- Stacey Harris wrote: > > I've read, I think, 5 Garrett books now, including the first three, the > > fifth, and the one that came out last year. And I have yet to see any > > iota of sense in the name "Glory Mooncalled"--for instance, any > > indication that anyone else in the series has a first name which is an > > abstract noun or a second name which is a (very strange) participle. > > Am I missing something? > > That it is likely his nom du guerre, i.e. an assumed name designed to make him > sound more impressive? That's what I thought. There was a bit in one of the latter books (in which Garrett is tossed into the mental ward) commenting on the practice of taking such names. ==Jake ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kalnicholson" Subject: (glencook-fans) ok, so I'm a little behind. Date: 25 Mar 2002 11:29:41 -0800 I only read one Garret book and that was ages ago. Which title should I begin with? Are they in chronological form or can I just jump in with the latest? Thanks. DK ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Patterson - Editor d' Ooze Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) ok, so I'm a little behind. Date: 25 Mar 2002 11:37:54 -0800 > Which title should I begin with? Are they in chronological form or can I > just jump in with the latest? They are chronological and really blend well together in order. The next book is usually always set-up pretty extensively in the book before it. Also all the secondary character arcs span 2-3+ books, so you'll miss out on that. Did anyone else complete Angry Lead Skies yet? -matt ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Timothy P. Taylor" Subject: (glencook-fans) Angry Lead Skies ***SPOILER ALERT*** Date: 25 Mar 2002 14:46:14 -0500 I finished Angry Lead Skies. I liked it. ************SPOILER ALERT****************** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * *I think that some of the alluded to sex scenes were "interesting", I liked VERY MCUH the fact that Pular was in this one. Cook did a good job I think in rounding out several characters, and still managing to incorporate several old reliables (Saucerhead, Morley, Winger) without going overboard. I think he's setting it up for a pretty good conclusion, the ending was interesting what with the dialogue between Old Man Tate, Garrett and Tinnie. Okay, I'm rooting that he settles down with tinnie...I admit to a bit of a bias in that I myself married a red-head...no regrets! Whats your take on it? TT > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Matt > Patterson - Editor d' Ooze > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 2:38 PM > To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) ok, so I'm a little behind. > > > > Which title should I begin with? Are they in chronological form or can I > > just jump in with the latest? > > They are chronological and really blend well together in order. The next > book is usually always set-up pretty extensively in the book > before it. Also > all the secondary character arcs span 2-3+ books, so you'll miss out on > that. > > Did anyone else complete Angry Lead Skies yet? > > -matt > > > ======================================================================= > To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, > visit . ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Patterson - Editor d' Ooze Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Angry Lead Skies ***SPOILER ALERT*** Date: 25 Mar 2002 12:15:59 -0800 ************SPOILER ALERT****************** > > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > ** > * > * > * > * > * > *I think that some of the alluded to sex scenes were "interesting", I liked > VERY MCUH the fact that Pular was in this one. Cook did a good job I think > in rounding out several characters, and still managing to incorporate > several old reliables (Saucerhead, Morley, Winger) without going overboard. > > I think he's setting it up for a pretty good conclusion, the ending was > interesting what with the dialogue between Old Man Tate, Garrett and Tinnie. > > Okay, I'm rooting that he settles down with tinnie...I admit to a bit of a > bias in that I myself married a red-head...no regrets! > > Whats your take on it? I agree 98% with what you said, BUT (and this is a big but for me) I'm not sure if the cross-cross-genre (a fantasy-mystery-sci-fi experience) thing really worked for me. I think Cook handled it about as deftly as you can, but these are tricky waters. The whole joy of of these novels for me is the cynical, gritty look at life in a fantasy world - and the MYSTERY that unfolds. Now, while a saucer full of Greys WOULD be a mystery to Garrett, it's not really a mystery to me. And I am always the last person to "get" the mystery plot. Maybe this is because I've read a lot more Sci-Fi, but really... For that reason alone, the enjoyment I normally get out of these books was a bit diminished. However, I did really enjoy the unexpected developments of the plot. I'm all for banging aliens, and the sex scenes were a good reversal for the usual anal-probe stereotype. Also a good flop on the Mars Needs Women trope. And that out of all that super alien technology revealed to them, they get the pencil and the tricycle. Perfect! [and advanced gearing! this is alluded to and could rally pave the way in this world for a lot of technological developments, but that's really another post] Silver Elves aside, the Pular plotline was brilliantly executed and memorable. If there is only one more book, Cook really does have to tie up a bunch of plotlines around whatever main plot the next one's going to be. 1) the whole Secret Police thread is probably going to come to a head around Chodo's party or something similar. And that should also wrap the Belinda thread too. 2) in order for Garrett and Tinnie to really cement their relationship, she's going to be put in Jeopardy again. 3) I'm not sure what's going to happen to Morley, but I'd guess he will probably legitimize himself more. A really dark conclusion would probably kill off some of the main characters, which would be interesting. And one final note on series chronology- In the latest book Old Man Tate says that Tinnie and Garrett have been an item for "several years" - yet Garrett is STILL 30. I'm guessing that although the series is very "realistic," this element comes from the pulp mystery side of the coin where time passes and Garrett ages like the Hardy Boys- or any other series character. I find this choice rather odd though, as each book is not interchangeable, but follows a strict order. My pet theory is that Garrett has been knocked on the head so many times (he's rendered unconscious at least 3 times a book- another holdover from the Noir side) that he forgot he is now 34. Time to stop rambling on and on. -matt ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "APZK" Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) English names. Date: 26 Mar 2002 20:30:59 +0300 > You mean Glory Mooncalled? Thank you, I mean him. Hm... That's interesting. Russian translation of english word "Glory" is "Slava" / /inthe book he is "Slavy"// , but it "Slava" is also pet name for russian name "Vyacheslav". "Slavy" is "Slava" stylizated like... polish name... or czech. About "Mooncalled"... I don't know, why russian translator translate it as "Duraleynik". Translation of russian word "duraley" is "fool". Maybe translator understood "Mooncalled" like "sleep-walker, somnambulist" // russian translation of "sleep-walker" is "lunatic"//... ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Harris Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) English names. Date: 26 Mar 2002 11:59:33 -0600 AP, "I don't know, why russian translator translate it as "Duraleynik". Translation of russian word "duraley" is "fool"." Perhaps the translator was thinking of an association with "moonstruck", which means "consumed by a silly passion and behaving foolishly". Just a guess. Steve ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Igor Filippov Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) English names. Date: 26 Mar 2002 13:28:33 -0500 (EST) Dear APZK, It's just I think some people have the weirdest names ! And Glory Mooncalled became Slava Duraleynik.... Igor On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, APZK wrote: > > You mean Glory Mooncalled? > > Thank you, I mean him. > Hm... That's interesting. Russian translation of english word "Glory" is > "Slava" / /inthe book he is "Slavy"// , but it "Slava" is also pet name for > russian > name "Vyacheslav". "Slavy" is "Slava" stylizated like... polish name... or > czech. About "Mooncalled"... I don't know, why russian translator translate > it as "Duraleynik". Translation of russian word "duraley" is "fool". Maybe > translator understood "Mooncalled" like "sleep-walker, somnambulist" // > russian translation of "sleep-walker" is "lunatic"//... > > > > > ======================================================================= > To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, > visit . > ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Dalgleish Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) English names. Date: 26 Mar 2002 13:09:46 -0600 On 3/26/02 11:30 AM, "APZK" wrote: >> You mean Glory Mooncalled? > > Thank you, I mean him. > Hm... That's interesting. Russian translation of english word "Glory" is > "Slava" / /inthe book he is "Slavy"// , but it "Slava" is also pet name for > russian > name "Vyacheslav". "Slavy" is "Slava" stylizated like... polish name... or > czech. About "Mooncalled"... I don't know, why russian translator translate > it as "Duraleynik". Translation of russian word "duraley" is "fool". Maybe > translator understood "Mooncalled" like "sleep-walker, somnambulist" // > russian translation of "sleep-walker" is "lunatic"//... "Mooncalled" can also be "moonstruck", "mooncalf", or "lunatic". ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Murphy Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Angry Lead Skies---Time sequencing Date: 27 Mar 2002 17:14:53 -0800 My take on the time sequencing is it has only been a couple few years since the series started. How hany references are there to the last case having ended "last week", "a couple weeks ago", or "a few weeks back". Hell, I think the last 3 or 4 have spanned a 6 month period at the most. ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Patterson - Editor d' Ooze Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Angry Lead Skies---Time sequencing Date: 27 Mar 2002 14:21:54 -0800 > My take on the time sequencing is it has only been a couple few years since > the > series started. How hany references are there to the last case having ended > "last > week", "a couple weeks ago", or "a few weeks back". > Hell, I think the last 3 or 4 have spanned a 6 month period at the most. Yep. I agree. But he is still 30, and was 30 at the beginning of the series. And he should definitely be suffering some major brain damage by now! (ha!) If all that stuff happened to me in 6 months, I would be in that brewery so fast you wouldn't have time to finish one beer. (hence living vicariously through fiction!) -matt ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aphion S Moore Subject: (glencook-fans) RE: On Behalf Of Matt Date: 15 Feb 2002 20:35:28 -0600 I had a few problems with the sci-fi twist also, but got in the spirit of the thing, since Pular Singe was such a sweet literary tidbit. I'm hoping that Cook will rethink the ending the series since there has been a lot of interest. I'm hoping that is the explanation of why there is almost too much to be resolved in one book. Like the unknown and uninvolved Katie. Usually when Cook introduces one of Garret's babes, she tends to have a major contribution to the plot. Since she in no way influences the mystery or outcome, he must be saving her for the next one. Tinnie, Maya, Belinda, even Linda Lee figured in immediately, at least peripherally. Katie seemed to have nothing to do with the plot. Aphion ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Herrmann Subject: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info Date: 31 Mar 2002 23:42:37 -0700 The March mail archives have been posted to the website. The Glen Cook Fan Page celebrated it's 6th year online with 73,625 total hits to date. And this mailing list celebrated it's 3rd year online with 3508 messages. Thank you for visiting and participating. US: "Angry Lead Skies" was released by ROC in March 2002. France: L'Atlante will continue publishing The Black Company in 2003. 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