From: owner-glencook-fans-digest@lists.xmission.com (glencook-fans-digest) To: glencook-fans-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: glencook-fans-digest V1 #80 Reply-To: glencook-fans-digest Sender: owner-glencook-fans-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-glencook-fans-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk glencook-fans-digest Thursday, February 8 2001 Volume 01 : Number 080 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:53:21 -0500 From: "Scott Vandenberg" Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OOP Short Fiction i'd buy a published copy of collected strories if somebody published one! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Cutter" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 5:32 PM Subject: (glencook-fans) OOP Short Fiction > Does anybody know if Glen Cook still retains publishing rights > to his short fiction? Since so many of these stories were > published in fanzine or serials, they're hard to get ahold of. > > I think they would make excellent canidates for online > pulishing, in the spirit of Baen Book's Free Library. > > -Matt C. > > Matthew C. Cutter > Support Analyst > Epicor Classic Support > mcutter@epicor.com > > ======================================================================= > To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, > visit . > ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:10:11 -0600 From: David George Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) OOP Short Fiction It might vary according to where the story is published. I would assume that if the copyright is not still held by the publisher, it is held by Glen Cook. In The Wind (in Space Dogfights anthology) for example is copyrighted to Glen and printed with the author's permission. But Song From a Forgotten Hill (in Clarion anthology) is copyrighted to Worlds of Tomorrow (and who knows where the copyright has landed since then, assuming that Worlds of Tomorrow is no longer a corporate entity). I've seen the stuff on Baen's free library and I agree with the sentiment, but for such publishing to happen, Glen would have to agree with the sentiment and moreover, I think he'd have to be convinced that free short fiction on the web would turn into book sales. With Mercy Toward None is the only Baen pub that Glen has that I know of and I believe it is also OOP. Is anyone other than Baen trying out the free library idea. I am in the process of trying to collect the various short pieces as it is and it is slow going. A lot of these pubs are pretty hard to find. Found a copy of the first Clarion anthology the other day and based on the various markings on the book, I've gotta be owner number 3 or 4 for this copy. Pages are pretty yellow, getting that old paperback aroma about it. I would not mind seeing these stories collected in a single volume, I'd gladly pay for that. DG - -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Cutter Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 4:33 PM To: 'glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com' Subject: (glencook-fans) OOP Short Fiction Does anybody know if Glen Cook still retains publishing rights to his short fiction? Since so many of these stories were published in fanzine or serials, they're hard to get ahold of. I think they would make excellent canidates for online pulishing, in the spirit of Baen Book's Free Library. - -Matt C. Matthew C. Cutter Support Analyst Epicor Classic Support mcutter@epicor.com ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:18:08 -0600 From: "PrimalChrome" Subject: (glencook-fans) The Captain I was sitting at a red light on the way to work this morning when something popped into my head... Raven and the Captain were tight. Croaker gets the feeling that they are kindred spirits. Speculation is as follows : 1. Educated 2. Held military position either past or present (Raven under the Limper/Lady) 3. Mid-high birth (this is an assumption based off the way the Cap's character is painted as well as the fact he is educated) 4. Sorcerous training? #4 is what hit me. All their time together, private conversations, etc... Raven never did openly display sorcerous ability until he displayed his knowledge while reading Bomanz's writings. The Captain never did display any ability.....except in a single situation. He flew a carpet. Albeit poorly. But he flew a carpet. If I recall correctly, he's the only non-sorceror ever to fly one. (flying sticks don't count as they appear to be magically embued mechanical devices) This was spurred by curiosity and has no real research to back it up, so feel free to shoot it down or support the theories as you see fit. I'm just sticking a spoon in and stirring things up to see what settles out. ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:46:38 -0500 From: "Timothy P. Taylor" Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) The Captain I find it an interesting thread, but I seem to remember earlier instances where both showed (albiet minor) displays of magical talent...I think one such reference was when the Captain had smoke literally pouring out of his ears. And Raven seemed to have some small talent as he could produce a knife with uncanny speed, even when he was weak as a kitten. tt > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of PrimalChrome > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:18 PM > To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (glencook-fans) The Captain > > > I was sitting at a red light on the way to work this morning when > something > popped into my head... > > Raven and the Captain were tight. Croaker gets the feeling that they are > kindred spirits. Speculation is as follows : > > 1. Educated > 2. Held military position either past or present (Raven under the > Limper/Lady) > 3. Mid-high birth (this is an assumption based off the way the Cap's > character is painted as well as the fact he is educated) > 4. Sorcerous training? > > #4 is what hit me. All their time together, private conversations, etc... > Raven never did openly display sorcerous ability until he displayed his > knowledge while reading Bomanz's writings. > > The Captain never did display any ability.....except in a single > situation. > He flew a carpet. Albeit poorly. But he flew a carpet. If I recall > correctly, he's the only non-sorceror ever to fly one. (flying > sticks don't > count as they appear to be magically embued mechanical devices) > > This was spurred by curiosity and has no real research to back it up, so > feel free to shoot it down or support the theories as you see > fit. I'm just > sticking a spoon in and stirring things up to see what settles out. > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, > visit . ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:43:25 -0500 From: Jay DeSimone Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) The Captain That's an interesting point, and it makes sense, too. I don't remember much about the posts, though, but wasn't there some discussion about how they differed from carpets? Plus, there was never any indication of verbal commands to make the carpets take off...they just did so at the will of the one commanding it. Hmmm... Jay - -----Original Message----- From: PrimalChrome [SMTP:chrome@wwisp.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:18 PM To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com Subject: (glencook-fans) The Captain Raven and the Captain were tight. Croaker gets the feeling that they are kindred spirits. Speculation is as follows : 4. Sorcerous training? #4 is what hit me. All their time together, private conversations, etc... Raven never did openly display sorcerous ability until he displayed his knowledge while reading Bomanz's writings. The Captain never did display any ability.....except in a single situation. He flew a carpet. Albeit poorly. But he flew a carpet. If I recall correctly, he's the only non-sorceror ever to fly one. (flying sticks don't count as they appear to be magically embued mechanical devices) ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:40:13 -0500 From: Jay DeSimone Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) The Captain The smoke was a trick of goblin or one eye, not his own. - -----Original Message----- From: Timothy P. Taylor [SMTP:tptaylor@genuity.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:47 PM To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) The Captain I find it an interesting thread, but I seem to remember earlier instances where both showed (albiet minor) displays of magical talent...I think one such reference was when the Captain had smoke literally pouring out of his ears. And Raven seemed to have some small talent as he could produce a knife with uncanny speed, even when he was weak as a kitten. tt > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of PrimalChrome > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:18 PM > To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (glencook-fans) The Captain > > > I was sitting at a red light on the way to work this morning when > something > popped into my head... > > Raven and the Captain were tight. Croaker gets the feeling that they are > kindred spirits. Speculation is as follows : > > 1. Educated > 2. Held military position either past or present (Raven under the > Limper/Lady) > 3. Mid-high birth (this is an assumption based off the way the Cap's > character is painted as well as the fact he is educated) > 4. Sorcerous training? > > #4 is what hit me. All their time together, private conversations, etc... > Raven never did openly display sorcerous ability until he displayed his > knowledge while reading Bomanz's writings. > > The Captain never did display any ability.....except in a single > situation. > He flew a carpet. Albeit poorly. But he flew a carpet. If I recall > correctly, he's the only non-sorceror ever to fly one. (flying > sticks don't > count as they appear to be magically embued mechanical devices) > > This was spurred by curiosity and has no real research to back it up, so > feel free to shoot it down or support the theories as you see > fit. I'm just > sticking a spoon in and stirring things up to see what settles out. > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, > visit . ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:39:55 -0800 From: "Kal" Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) The Captain I know that Croaker used a minor cantrip to explode the flying logs. It may be that he is not magically incline naturally but being around mages so much, he feels comfortable enough in some of it's principles to work very minor magic. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay DeSimone" To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:40 AM Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) The Captain > The smoke was a trick of goblin or one eye, not his own. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy P. Taylor [SMTP:tptaylor@genuity.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:47 PM > To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) The Captain > > I find it an interesting thread, but I seem to remember earlier instances > where both showed (albiet minor) displays of magical talent...I think one > such reference was when the Captain had smoke literally pouring out of his > ears. And Raven seemed to have some small talent as he could produce a > knife with uncanny speed, even when he was weak as a kitten. > > tt > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com > > [mailto:owner-glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of PrimalChrome > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:18 PM > > To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: (glencook-fans) The Captain > > > > > > I was sitting at a red light on the way to work this morning when > > something > > popped into my head... > > > > Raven and the Captain were tight. Croaker gets the feeling that they are > > kindred spirits. Speculation is as follows : > > > > 1. Educated > > 2. Held military position either past or present (Raven under the > > Limper/Lady) > > 3. Mid-high birth (this is an assumption based off the way the Cap's > > character is painted as well as the fact he is educated) > > 4. Sorcerous training? > > > > #4 is what hit me. All their time together, private conversations, etc... > > Raven never did openly display sorcerous ability until he displayed his > > knowledge while reading Bomanz's writings. > > > > The Captain never did display any ability.....except in a single > > situation. > > He flew a carpet. Albeit poorly. But he flew a carpet. If I recall > > correctly, he's the only non-sorceror ever to fly one. (flying > > sticks don't > > count as they appear to be magically embued mechanical devices) > > > > This was spurred by curiosity and has no real research to back it up, so > > feel free to shoot it down or support the theories as you see > > fit. I'm just > > sticking a spoon in and stirring things up to see what settles out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, > > visit . > > > ======================================================================= > To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, > visit . > > ======================================================================= > To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, > visit . > ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------ End of glencook-fans-digest V1 #80 ********************************** ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit .