From: owner-glencook-fans-digest@lists.xmission.com (glencook-fans-digest) To: glencook-fans-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: glencook-fans-digest V1 #191 Reply-To: glencook-fans-digest Sender: owner-glencook-fans-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-glencook-fans-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk glencook-fans-digest Tuesday, June 4 2002 Volume 01 : Number 191 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:46:06 -0700 From: Michael Llaneza Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info I'll take Brust as an authority and skip an obviously flame-ridden thread full of AOL users :-) Brust is right up there with Cook for me. I dread the day when I am faced with a new book by each, and only enough money for one. Even if I could get both, there's still the question of which to read first. Then there was that pleasant day when I found the 5th book of the Gap series by Donaldson (excellent series, far superior to his earlier works) which ends a series, and "Bleak Seasons" which I had expected to end a series, but instead started a whole new phase. I got both and read "Bleak Seasons" first. Eric Herrmann wrote: >The May mail archives have been posted to the website. > >Sorry, no news but I found a quote in RASFW that I thought was interesting. > >"For my tastes, Cook walks a delightful line between making things so real >that they're no longer giving me what I read fantasy for, and so fantastical >that I can't buy it. > >But more, he has the ability to pull off stuff that A) I didn't expect 2) I >didn't want, and III) that satisfy me anyway. > >This is a rare and delightful skill." -Steven Brust > >This was excerpted from the thread "Why Glen Cook isn't that good". >4%40mb-fa.aol.com > > >(Please start a new thread here if you want to discuss this.) > >-- > >This mailing list is sponsored by The Glen Cook Fan Page at: >. > >The mailing list archives and instructions of how to subscribe or >unsubscribe can be found at: >. > >The mailing list FAQ can be found at: >. > >The mailing list exclusive Glen Cook Bibliography can be found at: >. > > > ======================================================================= To unsubscribe, subscribe, or access the archives of this list, visit . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 00:11:04 -0500 From: "Lawrence Jenab" Subject: (glencook-fans) Angry Lead Skies This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C20C25.7B383680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SPOILERS I just finished this, and I have to add my "Ugh" to those posted = already. This book maximized everything about the Garrett novels I more = or less "put up" with (the cliches, the juvenile sexism and teenage-boy = fanasies of sexual prowess) and minimized everything I love about them = (intricate, propulsive plots, intelligent commentary, a thoroughly = realized alternate world, and few wasted pages). The Dead Man was = almost irrelevant, and all Garrett's friends were reduced to = charicatures--and not in the sort of endearing way they are in the = earlier books. =20 Worst of all was the virtual orgy of unappealing sex. OK, Garrett is = supposed to be a sort of soft-hearted rake, but he more or less lies in = his bed and has strange, unappealing females of other species sexually = assault him endlessly throughout the book. The meeting scene at = Morley's was a stultifying bunch of Garrett cliches--too much like all = the other "big meeting scenses" in the series, but with no surprises--it = really IS just a meeting--that goes on, and on, and on. Without = question the worst Cook novel I've read. The whole thing felt tired. I = don't mean to bitch endlessly--I'm just disappointed that my favorite = fantasy author laid an egg. Cook just seems bored throughout. My $0.02. Hoping to see the crime novel soon. - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C20C25.7B383680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I just finished this, and I have to add my "Ugh" to = those=20 posted already.  This book maximized everything about the Garrett = novels I=20 more or less "put up" with (the cliches, the juvenile sexism and = teenage-boy=20 fanasies of sexual prowess) and minimized everything I love about them=20 (intricate, propulsive plots, intelligent commentary, a thoroughly = realized=20 alternate world, and few wasted pages).  The Dead Man was almost=20 irrelevant, and all Garrett's friends were reduced to charicatures--and = not in=20 the sort of endearing way they are in the earlier books.  =
 
Worst of all was the virtual orgy of unappealing = sex. =20 OK, Garrett is supposed to be a sort of soft-hearted rake, but he more = or less=20 lies in his bed and has strange, unappealing females of other species = sexually=20 assault him endlessly throughout the book.  The meeting scene at = Morley's=20 was a stultifying bunch of Garrett cliches--too much like all the other = "big=20 meeting scenses" in the series, but with no surprises--it really IS just = a=20 meeting--that goes on, and on, and on.  Without question the = worst=20 Cook novel I've read.  The whole thing felt tired.  I don't = mean to=20 bitch endlessly--I'm just disappointed that my favorite fantasy author = laid an=20 egg.  Cook just seems bored throughout.
 
My $0.02.  Hoping to see the crime novel=20 soon.
 
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