From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #58 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Tuesday, April 28 1998 Volume 01 : Number 058 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:06:18 EDT From: RR1LA Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans good boy I.T. nothing like someone stirrin' up a hornets' nest just to see if'n the critters are still alive. LOL love it. keep on hammerin' PJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:07:08 EDT From: ITWHEELER Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans just foolin , i wouldnt try it on a bet just by mine . might try some day have trouble want ing everything taler made did they realy roste the beens at voos or did they have it already ground . seems green beans would get moldy. iron tounge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:14:02 EDT From: ITWHEELER Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans you take your self to serious . just funnin iron tounge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:12:20 EDT From: ITWHEELER Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans dont bee so siff sir just in jest i wrote. you take this the wrong way. take it anyway you want . just funnin. iron tounge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:42:16 EDT From: ITWHEELER Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans good one i knew there was a man out there that could take a little funnin it seems some of these guys take themselves to serious. im knew to this to and dont mean to ruffel anyones feathers . im in it for the fun and meeting felles like your self with a sense of humor. it dont take the fun out of it for me im just happy suken in air these numbered days that i have on this earth. iron tounge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:44:43 EDT From: ITWHEELER Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans amen iron tounge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:51:39 EDT From: ITWHEELER Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans thanks man im not a bad guy eather im full of hell and would crawl yes crawl on my hands an nees - spelling knees through broken glass for a friend. as usual you have come up again with some words of wisdom thanks . iron tounge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:58:19 EDT From: ITWHEELER Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans im still havin fun . ill give them some space . yall come iron tounge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:59:10 EDT From: ITWHEELER Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans god bless you man iron tounge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:13:40 EDT From: ITWHEELER Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans thanks for that im a simple guy and i love mountian man stuff. and all the stuff that goes with it . respectfuly iron tounge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:21:05 EDT From: ITWHEELER Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans i will try to do better iron tounge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:21:40 -0400 From: "Fred A. Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans Michael Branson wrote: > > I agree, I get tired of trying to translate this new 20century mtn man > lingo. The old diaries I have studied show the old timers never actually > spoke in such a manner. M. Branson [snip] That's the conclusion I came to as well sometime ago Mike, but thougtht maybe I'd missed something. Regards, Fred - -- "When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans...And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it." Bill Clinton, April 19,1994 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:46:29 -0500 From: "Pamela Wheeler" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans On Tuesday, April 28, 1998 at 12:21 you wrote : " When personel freedom is being abused you have to move to limit it" .....................What in the heck are you all talking about? And why did you include that anti-American crap from the head slime ball for. Limit my freedom? Did I hear the mumblings of a commie in here or what. I take extreme offense when someone puts garbage like that out. My God in heaven, I will bet old Liver eating Johnston is rolling in his grave in Trailtown. The next time you all feel that way why don't you take someone elses place on the front line. Say in Bosnia! I would have been happy for you to have taken my place in Nam, you could have all my Purple Hearts with my blessing and maybe then you would love ALL your freedom! YellowFeather - ---------- > From: Fred A. Miller > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans > Date: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 12:21 AM > > Michael Branson wrote: > > > > I agree, I get tired of trying to translate this new 20century mtn man > > lingo. The old diaries I have studied show the old timers never actually > > spoke in such a manner. M. Branson > > [snip] > > That's the conclusion I came to as well sometime ago Mike, but thougtht > maybe I'd missed something. > > Regards, > > Fred > > -- > "When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical > Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of > individual freedom to Americans...And so a lot of people say there's > too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you > have to move to limit it." Bill Clinton, April 19,1994 > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:56:53 -1000 From: Blue Rider Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans Casapy123 wrote: > > Blue Rider > > I suppose I'll get along if you and others want to talk like you think > a > mountain man might have talked. However, I agree with the thought > that > mountain men who left us their written words wrote in pretty good > english. > That doesn't mean they necessarily talked all that proper, but if > we're to > emulate them, shouldn't we also write correctly even if we talk in the > vernacular? > > Your use of Vardis Fisher's "Mountain Man" doesn't support your case > as it is > fiction, even if there is some degree of factual basis. Provide us > with some > better, solid references (and there are a couple but I want you to > find them) > and we'll all have no option but to accept your writing without > quibble. This > IS a history list, contrary to what you might want to believe. Back > up what > you say with a proper reference and you can say most anything in most > any > manner you want. > > Good luck in searching for those references. If you give up, there > will be > others here to help you. That is what this list is all about. I didn't mean "Mt.Man" to be a citation, just a passing thought. Actually, it looks like to me it'd be easier all around if I just spoke correct English and brought Miss Manners to visit from time to time. But then, I doubt she would approve of me, either. Sigh! What's a poor girl to do? I do apologize to anybody I upset. It was unintentional. Blue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:01:38 -1000 From: Blue Rider Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans ITWHEELER wrote: > > just fooling around to see if you guys were gettin my mail dont get > many > replys. > i have got alot of information from youall. but it seems that you doun > care to > anser mine. dont know any thing about roasting beens that why they > have coffey > stores starbucks > thanks for > ansering my > mail > iron > tounge Aw, shoot, man! Here I thought you had such a great idea and you mess it all up by telling the truth? We don't have Starbuck's on this island, but we do have Kona and all that World's Best Coffee. It *is* wonderful coffee. It is also $20/lb. Some days you just can't win. Aloha, Blue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:03:09 -1000 From: Blue Rider Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans ITWHEELER wrote: > > just foolin , i wouldnt try it on a bet just by mine . might try some > day have > trouble want ing everything taler made did they realy roste the > beens at > voos or did they have it already ground . seems green beans would get > moldy. > iron tounge It's my understanding that they mostly carried and drank black tea. Blue ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 06:47:56 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans Regarding the Clinton quote.....WTF,O? I am not familiar with that particular quote, but it certainly sounds Clintonesque. God save us from this man and his minions. I think some of us would appreciate knowing why you interjected it into a discussion about vernacular. It is not clear if your tongue was firmly in you cheek, as at least I hope it was. Lanney Ratclif - -----Original Message----- From: Fred A. Miller To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 12:37 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans >Michael Branson wrote: >> >> I agree, I get tired of trying to translate this new 20century mtn man >> lingo. The old diaries I have studied show the old timers never actually >> spoke in such a manner. M. Branson > >[snip] > >That's the conclusion I came to as well sometime ago Mike, but thougtht >maybe I'd missed something. > >Regards, > >Fred > >-- >"When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical >Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of >individual freedom to Americans...And so a lot of people say there's >too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you >have to move to limit it." Bill Clinton, April 19,1994 > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:48:39 -0400 From: "F.Vital" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans Pamela Wheeler wrote: > > On Tuesday, April 28, 1998 at 12:21 you wrote : " When personel freedom > is being abused you have to move to limit it" .....................What in > the heck are you all talking about? And why did you include that > anti-American crap from the head slime ball for. Maybe it is there to educate/warn people about how the head beaureucrat really feels. - -- Frank Vital ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:06:14 -0500 From: Jim Lindberg Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans I can't believe all of this stuff still coming under the coffee heading, how about changing the subject line? Maybe it's time for some decaf! B^) Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:01:33 -0700 From: "P.D. Amschler" Subject: MtMan-List: Man of the Cloth Well I have just read every one of the 49 new posts on this list and I have to admit that I was amused! So now I have a few MORE questions to get a few more ideas. I have read so much on linen shirts and will admit that it seems to be the only cloth that was in use but what about HEMP. Hemp up in till the early 20th century was a main stay. Even during WW2 we were using hemp rope and lines. Even as a young country it was part of most ststes law that you had to grow some hemp for the betterment of the country and the war effort. Hemp was user on all of our sailing ships not only as rope and lines but it was also used in clothing. It also was called linen in some old sailing books. Now I will also admit that I have not researched this fully but I do think that hemp would have made it's way into the Rocky Mountains in the 1800's as cloth as well as rope. Now does any one have any information on it's use past line and rope? I know that there are a few places to buy hemp today in the cloth form is it accepted as period in most living history events? ( Hemp is legal in this country to buy and sell as cloth but not grow??? go figuar that one). Paul Get your FREE, private e-mail account at http://www.mailcity.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:54:38 EDT From: RR1LA Subject: Re: MtMan-List: the head slimeball (was roasting coffee beans) Amen YellowFeather. Only thing I can say is thank goodness Clinton makes statements like that, so we can truly see how dangerous, and exactly how big a slimeball he is. Also, to everyone on the list, PLEASE be aware of your subject headings, as this stuff is archived by subject. All the previous stuff about english, etc etc had nothing to do with roasting coffee beans. YHS PJ. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:19:11 -0500 From: "Scott Allen" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Man of the Cloth Paul, Please judicious use of the return key. It is very hard to read when you have to keep moving back and forth. Check out a company called Ohio Hempery. They have a website, but I forget the url. You should be able to find it using a search engine. I have one of their catalogs at home and they give a little history on hemp cloth and rope. It is very acceptable for the fur trade era. Your most humble servant, Scott Allen Hunter and Scout for Fort Frederick Fairplay, MD http://members.tripod.com/~SCOTT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 98 08:27:00 -0500 From: bruce.mcneal@ssa.gov Subject: RE: MtMan-List:Ft Fredrick Hey Scott, Any final figures on attendance at Market Fair? # of camps, # of sutlers? Everyone I spoke to had nothing but praise. Great job as usual. - - Bruce McNeal ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:41:17 EDT From: TetonTod Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hemp Cloth Paul, You're correct in that hemp was widely available and used for a variety of applications. My research into period textiles has indicated that hemp cloth was used on a limited basis for clothing, but no where near as much as linen. Mostly for rough outer wear by farmers and outher country folk. So, wouldn't it stand to reason then that Woodsmen, Frontiersmen, mountain men etc would have used it? You decide. My Knapsack is made from some nice moderate weight hemp canvas and I am very pleased with it. I've also made some nice rope with hemp and jute. Sisal rope it appears was not period, but hemp certainly was. Todd Glover A wide variety of hemp materials are available from www. hemptraders.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:42:49 EDT From: EmmaPeel2 Subject: MtMan-List: Looking for mountain men info in St. Louis for trip I am visiting St. Louis in May to research some geneology about mountain men. Does anyone know if there is a specific museum devoted to the mountain men in Missourri? Or sites that I should definately see? I heard that the old fur warehouses were once on the river docks, but they may have been torn down. Also does anyone know about a place called Ste. Genevieve? Supposedly many fur trappers and traders lived there at one time or another. Any information appreciated! Thanks :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:46:59 EDT From: TetonTod Subject: MtMan-List: Hemp also check out www.hemptex.com Todd ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:47:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Newbill Subject: MtMan-List: Hemp (the nonsmoking kind) On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, P.D. Amschler wrote: > Hemp was user on all of our sailing ships not only as rope and lines but > it was also used in clothing. It also was called linen in some old > sailing books. Now I will also admit that I have not researched this > fully but I do think that hemp would have made it's way into the Rocky > Mountains in the 1800's as cloth as well as rope. Can't answer yer question Paul, but I can add one :) Would hemp have been the sling rope of choice for securing mantees on a pack saddle (horse)? My nylon sling ropes ain't gonna work fer what I wish to do :) I have read that the Lewis and Clark expedition used braided elk hides for their sling ropes, seen nothing about the methods of HBC or the NWC. Would rope, in quantity, have been brought overland as replacement stock? Or would it be braided from readily available materials? I can only find one source that lists rope as being shipped, and that appears to be only for the use of the transporters (York Boat Bill of Lading, 1803) Scott Alan did write: > Paul, > Please judicious use of the return key. It is very hard to read when > you have to keep moving back and forth. Check the settings on your mail program Paul... your paragraphs arn't wrapping to make it easy to read... at least for some readers. Regards Lee Newbill Viola, Idaho email at lnewbill@uidaho.edu Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage http://www.uidaho.edu/~lnewbill/bp.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:47:55 -0500 From: "Scott Allen" Subject: RE: MtMan-List:Ft Fredrick Nothing yet, Bruce. I'll give them a few days to get their collective wind back! Thanks for the kind words. It was good to see you again. I'm thinking real serious about joining the ALRA. Your most humble servant, Scott Allen Hunter and Scout for Fort Frederick Fairplay, MD http://members.tripod.com/~SCOTT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:25:11 -0600 (CST) From: mxhbc@TTACS.TTU.EDU (Henry B. Crawford) Subject: MtMan-List: The sail mfg. industry Is it probable that sail manufacturers on the east coast (or anywhere for that matter) also made tents in large quantities? Further, is there any evidence that used sails were "recycled" into tarps for use as tents or shelters on the frontier after their usefulness as sails had been outlived? I have an old sail, complete with heavy 1.5" dia ropes sewn into two opposite edges. I often use it as a shelter, but when someone asks at an event, I'd like to talk about the use of old sails as shelters, but I hesitate to do so without some kind of reference or documentation. Of course, I could always say that I (my character) got it somewhere on the coast where shipes were being refitted. Any help out there? TIA HBC ***************************************** Henry B. Crawford Curator of History mxhbc@ttacs.ttu.edu Museum of Texas Tech University 806/742-2442 Box 43191 FAX 742-1136 Lubbock, TX 79409-3191 WEBSITE: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum ****** Living History . . . Because it's there! ******* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:33:18 -0600 From: "Lee Cardon" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hemp Cloth In the "Joy of Handweaving" the author Osma G. Tod suggests that Hemp was brought from Europe at least a hundred years before the "Mountain Man" era, and that growers of Hemp were very excited because the land was so fertile here that it grew twice as tall as where it was grown in Europe. Since it is such a tough fiber, it was used for many "industrial" (used in the cottage sense) applications. It made good bags, sails, ropes, twines (shoe laces) and occasionally some rough work clothing. BTW: It was also used to extract drugs from...I'm sure we all know of one such drug, does anyone know what other useful medications come from the Hemp plant? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:48:02 -0600 From: "Lee Cardon" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The sail mfg. industry On the lighter side of Sail usage, didn't Swiss Family Robinson, and Robinson Crusoe have something to do with that? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:59:59 EDT From: MIA3WOLVES Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans amen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:09:03 -0400 From: "Fred A. Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans Pamela Wheeler wrote: > > On Tuesday, April 28, 1998 at 12:21 you wrote : " When personel freedom > is being abused you have to move to limit it" .....................What in > the heck are you all talking about? And why did you include that > anti-American crap from the head slime ball for. Limit my freedom? Did I > hear the mumblings of a commie in here or what. I take extreme offense when > someone puts garbage like that out. My God in heaven, I will bet old Liver > eating Johnston is rolling in his grave in Trailtown. The next time you all > feel that way why don't you take someone elses place on the front line. Say > in Bosnia! I would have been happy for you to have taken my place in Nam, > you could have all my Purple Hearts with my blessing and maybe then you > would love ALL your freedom! Pam, most people can tell it's a quote from the "Scum Bag" himself, and certainly not a promotion of his comment, but rather an alert to others as to what he really thinks. Fred - -- "When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans...And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it." Bill Clinton, April 19,1994 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:19:14 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Looking for information on clubs/groups Matt Contact Don Kitlinger at woodenhawk@aol.com and ask for a copy of his publication "The Rendezvous Calendar". It is mailed to subscribers from September to May and each issue includes a calender showing most of the club rendezvous in the Texas area for the upcoming month. (June July and August aren't included because nobody rendezvous in 100+ degree heat---we head north for the cool country rendezvous). In the back of each issue is a list of most of the Buckskinner clubs in this area, including a contact person, their address and phone number. If you contacted all the clubs listed with a suitable questionaire you might have a beginning on your research. Don might be able to direct you to other publications around the country with similar information. Good Luck Lanney Ratcliff rat@htcomp.net - -----Original Message----- From: S.M.Despain-1 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, April 24, 1998 12:20 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Looking for information on clubs/groups >My name is Matt Despain and for vernacular sakes go by "Doc Wannabe" >because I'm working om my dissertation. I'm examining the image of the >mountain man in American history and culture, and part of that includes >modern day buckskinning. What I'm interested in is the histories and >constitutions/charters of groups to see when they were organized and >what influences led to their formation. I am also interested in the >formality (or lack of it) that certain groups prescribe to in their >activities (how one must dress, speak, or carry themselves in a social >rank). I am mostly interested in groups that participate in recreating >the Far West fur trade and the Rocky Mountain rendezvous (circa >1800-1840), but any information from groups that portray other facets of >the fur trade or frontiering are equally welcome. I would be most >appreciative of any information anyone could send my way. > >Matt "Doc Wannabe" Despain >1339 Homeland Ave. >Norman, OK 73072 >(405) 447-4046 >sdespain@ou.edu > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:28:51 EDT From: RR1LA Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Looking for information on clubs/groups Dear "Doc", A couple of good sources for rendezvous events, and their contact people would be the Smoke & Fire News, at POB 166, Grand Rapids, OH 43522 phone 419.832.0303. Also, there is a publication out of Denver called "The Territorial Dispatch" which provides additional stuff across the country. I was thinking the Booshways and Directors of Club events might be a good lead. Hope this helps some. YHS, PJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:28:15 -0500 From: "Pamela Wheeler" Subject: MtMan-List: Not too observant I am sure happy that ye be in the city cause you is blind as a bat! YellowFeather wrote to ye not Pam ( Calamity Jane). You would go under fast in the shinin mountains PILGRIM! BTW...Sen. Burton says King Willy is a scumbag so I guess your observation there be close! YELLOWFEATHER - ---------- > From: Fred A. Miller > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: roasting coffee beans > Date: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 6:09 PM > > Pamela Wheeler wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, April 28, 1998 at 12:21 you wrote : " When personel freedom > > is being abused you have to move to limit it" .....................What in > > the heck are you all talking about? And why did you include that > > anti-American crap from the head slime ball for. Limit my freedom? Did I > > hear the mumblings of a commie in here or what. I take extreme offense when > > someone puts garbage like that out. My God in heaven, I will bet old Liver > > eating Johnston is rolling in his grave in Trailtown. The next time you all > > feel that way why don't you take someone elses place on the front line. Say > > in Bosnia! I would have been happy for you to have taken my place in Nam, > > you could have all my Purple Hearts with my blessing and maybe then you > > would love ALL your freedom! > > Pam, most people can tell it's a quote from the "Scum Bag" himself, and > certainly not a promotion of his comment, but rather an alert to others > as to what he really thinks. > > Fred > > -- > "When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical > Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of > individual freedom to Americans...And so a lot of people say there's > too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you > have to move to limit it." Bill Clinton, April 19,1994 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:24:26 -0500 From: "Pamela Wheeler" Subject: MtMan-List: Pam and Ken Howdy the list, Let me try this one more time. The e-mail address is in Pam's name. Some of you might remember her as Calamity Jane. She got that name after she caught her dress on fire at rendezvous. Doc had to treat her for mtn. sickness that year too. Anyhow, I use the same e-mail service. That is why when I post to the list it say's Pam Wheeler. OK? Sorry if some of you got confused. Your Obt. Servant, YellowFeather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:36:53 -0500 From: "Pamela Wheeler" Subject: MtMan-List: Hudson Bay Blankets I asked about some items earlier this year and I got a response from a lady from N.Carolina and I have lost your e-mail address. Would you please contact me again? Thanks, YellowFeather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:58:36 -0500 From: "YellowFeather" Subject: MtMan-List: name/gender Thanks Medicine Bear! Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:11:15 -0400 From: "Fred A. Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Not too observant Pamela Wheeler wrote: > > I am sure happy that ye be in the city cause you is blind as a bat! > YellowFeather wrote to ye not Pam ( Calamity Jane). You would go under fast > in the shinin mountains PILGRIM! BTW...Sen. Burton says King Willy is a > scumbag so I guess your observation there be close! > YELLOWFEATHER [snip] I responded to you because you addressed my sig, otherwise I would have ignored the comment(s). I don't live in the city, and anyone who's met me at any rendezvous fireing line knows that I'm not blind. Regards, Fred > > "When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical > > Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of > > individual freedom to Americans...And so a lot of people say there's > > too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you > > have to move to limit it." Bill Clinton, April 19,1994 - -- "When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans...And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it." Bill Clinton, April 19,1994 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:09:09 -0500 From: "YellowFeather" Subject: MtMan-List: E-mail Thanks to Medicine Bear there will be no more name/gender problems from this hist list member. His help was as good as any potlatch I ever received! Your Obt. Servant, YellowFeather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:40:03 -0400 From: "Fred A. Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: E-mail YellowFeather wrote: > > Thanks to Medicine Bear there will be no more name/gender problems from > this hist list member. His help was as good as any potlatch I ever > received! 'Glad that is cleared up.....was most confusing. Fred - -- "When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans...And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it." Bill Clinton, April 19,1994 ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #58 ****************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message. 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