From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1132 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, January 9 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1132 In this issue: -       MtMan-List: Travios -       Re: MtMan-List: Travios -       Re: MtMan-List: Travios -       Re: MtMan-List: Travios -       Re: MtMan-List: Travios -       Re: MtMan-List: Travios -       MtMan-List: Laura Glise's spiced pecans -       Re: MtMan-List: Travios -       Re: MtMan-List: Travios -       Re: MtMan-List: Travios -       Re: MtMan-List: Travois -       Re: MtMan-List: Travois -       Re: MtMan-List: Travois -       Re: MtMan-List: Travois -       Re: MtMan-List: Laura Glise's spiced pecans -       Re: MtMan-List: Laura Glise's spiced pecans ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:20:10 -0700 From: "Wynn Ormond" Subject: MtMan-List: Travios Pardon my spelling I cannot get it close enough for even the computer to tell how they spell it. Anyhow I saw in a T&LR recently that someone had used a travios to pack their stuff on. Has anyone else used one? I wondered if they would dig trenches as you go along making them a bit unethical, at least for me. I also wonder if they would be any better than a pack under most conditions but having never used one I don't know. I recall someone writing that they don't sidehill very well too. They are definately historical but I wonder how practical a travios is now days. Then again maybe I just don't like the idea that those poles might bend my "gril friends" ears as Crazy calls her on his website! Wynn Ormond - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:29:06 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios > > Anyhow I saw in a T&LR recently that someone had used a travios to pack > their stuff on. Has anyone else used one? I presume you are refering to a human propelled travois. I have used one....once. Trust me and forget the notion entirely unless you have the self control to put no more on a travois than you can carry on you back. The thing is capable of holding a mountain of stuff and before you know it you can have more plunder loaded than a mule can carry and have room to spare. Don't load it and test pull it around your yard for thirty or forty feet and pronounce it a cinch to manage. It's a lie! As near as I could figure my travois (made with well cured, lightweight 10-12 foot lodgepole pine no more than 4 inches in diameter at the bases, mind you) gained between one and two pounds for each foot of travel. I hauled that instrument of torture less than 3/4 mile and I swear that in addition to my original plunder there was an iron stove and a Mosler safe on it. > > I wondered if they would dig trenches as you go along making them a bit > unethical, at least for me. They do make two nice furrows. I don't know about ethics, but they do make it easy to follow your trail. I also wonder if they would be any better than > a pack under most conditions but having never used one I don't know. I > recall someone writing that they don't sidehill very well too. They are > definately historical but I wonder how practical a travios is now days. Build a big one and use a horse to pull it or go lie down until the notion passes. A small human pulled travois??? Nix Nix Fuhgittaboutit unless you pack it so lightly that people think you left half you stuff at home. DON'T FORGET.....NO MORE THAN YOU CAN CARRY ON YOUR BACK Now....on the other hand having the little 7X7 pryamid tent I packed in along with the two shear poles to hold it up, pretty much saved my arse when the weather turned very rainy...stormy, in fact...... and the temp hovered just above freezing for a couple of days. Having an entirely enclosed tent was a blessing beyond belief. Warm and dry beats cold and wet every time. So, do what you think best but if the experience leaves you broken and bleeding don't say I didn't warn you. Good Luck Lanney Ratcliff > > Then again maybe I just don't like the idea that those poles might bend my > "gril friends" ears as Crazy calls her on his website! > > Wynn Ormond > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:13:34 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios I also tried a human powered travois ONCE...... We abandonded the idea quickly. We took one pole at a time, tied a bundle to it, put one pole one one guys shoulder, the other end of pole on the other guys shoulder and carried in that way. The friction (drag) made the travois very impracticle. We quickly learned why the old timers made the BIG animals pull the travois. I agree with lanney, the only way you could pull a travois with a man is to have the load so light you might as well carry it on your back and not fight the forces of physics (drag). My opinion, hardtack Randal Bublitz rjbublitz@earthlink.net Freedom is Not Free > [Original Message] > From: Lanney Ratcliff > To: > Date: 1/8/03 6:29:06 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios > > > > > > > Anyhow I saw in a T&LR recently that someone had used a travios to pack > > their stuff on. Has anyone else used one? > > I presume you are refering to a human propelled travois. I have used > one....once. Trust me and forget the notion entirely unless you have the > self control to put no more on a travois than you can carry on you back. > The thing is capable of holding a mountain of stuff and before you know it > you can have more plunder loaded than a mule can carry and have room to > spare. Don't load it and test pull it around your yard for thirty or forty > feet and pronounce it a cinch to manage. It's a lie! As near as I could > figure my travois (made with well cured, lightweight 10-12 foot lodgepole > pine no more than 4 inches in diameter at the bases, mind you) gained > between one and two pounds for each foot of travel. I hauled that > instrument of torture less than 3/4 mile and I swear that in addition to my > original plunder there was an iron stove and a Mosler safe on it. > > > > > I wondered if they would dig trenches as you go along making them a bit > > unethical, at least for me. > > They do make two nice furrows. I don't know about ethics, but they do make > it easy to follow your trail. > > I also wonder if they would be any better than > > a pack under most conditions but having never used one I don't know. I > > recall someone writing that they don't sidehill very well too. They are > > definately historical but I wonder how practical a travios is now days. > > Build a big one and use a horse to pull it or go lie down until the notion > passes. A small human pulled travois??? Nix Nix Fuhgittaboutit unless > you pack it so lightly that people think you left half you stuff at home. > DON'T FORGET.....NO MORE THAN YOU CAN CARRY ON YOUR BACK > Now....on the other hand having the little 7X7 pryamid tent I packed in > along with the two shear poles to hold it up, pretty much saved my arse when > the weather turned very rainy...stormy, in fact...... and the temp hovered > just above freezing for a couple of days. Having an entirely enclosed tent > was a blessing beyond belief. Warm and dry beats cold and wet every time. > So, do what you think best but if the experience leaves you broken and > bleeding don't say I didn't warn you. > > Good Luck > Lanney Ratcliff > > > > > > > > > Then again maybe I just don't like the idea that those poles might bend my > > "gril friends" ears as Crazy calls her on his website! > > > > Wynn Ormond > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:09:01 -0500 From: "Double Edge Forge" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios I gotta agree with Lanney and Hardtack.... Spent time building a period travois... Poles, rawhide, all period correct.. Used it once on a doins during the Winter. Only a mile or so to the camp.. Was damned good firewood when I got there.... D - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randal Bublitz" To: "hist_text" Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:13 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios > I also tried a human powered travois ONCE...... We abandonded the idea > quickly. We took one pole at a time, tied a bundle to it, put one pole one > one guys shoulder, the other end of pole on the other guys shoulder and > carried in that way. The friction (drag) made the travois very > impracticle. We quickly learned why the old timers made the BIG animals > pull the travois. I agree with lanney, the only way you could pull a > travois with a man is to have the load so light you might as well carry it > on your back and not fight the forces of physics (drag). My opinion, > hardtack > > Randal Bublitz > rjbublitz@earthlink.net > Freedom is Not Free > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Lanney Ratcliff > > To: > > Date: 1/8/03 6:29:06 PM > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyhow I saw in a T&LR recently that someone had used a travios to pack > > > their stuff on. Has anyone else used one? > > > > I presume you are refering to a human propelled travois. I have used > > one....once. Trust me and forget the notion entirely unless you have the > > self control to put no more on a travois than you can carry on you back. > > The thing is capable of holding a mountain of stuff and before you know it > > you can have more plunder loaded than a mule can carry and have room to > > spare. Don't load it and test pull it around your yard for thirty or > forty > > feet and pronounce it a cinch to manage. It's a lie! As near as I could > > figure my travois (made with well cured, lightweight 10-12 foot lodgepole > > pine no more than 4 inches in diameter at the bases, mind you) gained > > between one and two pounds for each foot of travel. I hauled that > > instrument of torture less than 3/4 mile and I swear that in addition to > my > > original plunder there was an iron stove and a Mosler safe on it. > > > > > > > > I wondered if they would dig trenches as you go along making them a bit > > > unethical, at least for me. > > > > They do make two nice furrows. I don't know about ethics, but they do > make > > it easy to follow your trail. > > > > I also wonder if they would be any better than > > > a pack under most conditions but having never used one I don't know. I > > > recall someone writing that they don't sidehill very well too. They are > > > definately historical but I wonder how practical a travios is now days. > > > > Build a big one and use a horse to pull it or go lie down until the notion > > passes. A small human pulled travois??? Nix Nix Fuhgittaboutit unless > > you pack it so lightly that people think you left half you stuff at home. > > DON'T FORGET.....NO MORE THAN YOU CAN CARRY ON YOUR BACK > > Now....on the other hand having the little 7X7 pryamid tent I packed in > > along with the two shear poles to hold it up, pretty much saved my arse > when > > the weather turned very rainy...stormy, in fact...... and the temp hovered > > just above freezing for a couple of days. Having an entirely enclosed > tent > > was a blessing beyond belief. Warm and dry beats cold and wet every time. > > So, do what you think best but if the experience leaves you broken and > > bleeding don't say I didn't warn you. > > > > Good Luck > > Lanney Ratcliff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then again maybe I just don't like the idea that those poles might bend > my > > > "gril friends" ears as Crazy calls her on his website! > > > > > > Wynn Ormond > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 22:45:25 -0800 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios The travois was an implement of the Plains Culture, first with dogs later horses. On the Plains it allowed packing goods without needing a lot of specialized pack gear. Other than on the Plains they are too cumbersome to use. I tried one on a horse and it is better than nothing to pack on. I'm certain after a thousand miles of hauling one some old timey tricks would be learned, which would make it lots easier; there's a technique and learning to near everything. Packs and saddles were easier for me to make work, everywhere. With packs on mules you can go lots of places a travois can't possibly get through. For hand use one of several styles of sled or sledge would be much more practical and at least as appropriate. Toboggan, dog sled (several excellent styles to choose from), or one of the aforementioned sledges all can be very practical ways to tote heavier loads. The best one to use depends on the terrain where you use it, and the season you use it in, and a whether you have a buddy to help with the "push-me-pull-you". Or just do without! John... At 08:13 PM 1/8/03, you wrote: >I also tried a human powered travois ONCE...... We abandonded the idea >quickly. We took one pole at a time, tied a bundle to it, put one pole one >one guys shoulder, the other end of pole on the other guys shoulder and >carried in that way. The friction (drag) made the travois very >impracticle. We quickly learned why the old timers made the BIG animals >pull the travois. I agree with lanney, the only way you could pull a >travois with a man is to have the load so light you might as well carry it >on your back and not fight the forces of physics (drag). My opinion, >hardtack > >Randal Bublitz >rjbublitz@earthlink.net >Freedom is Not Free > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Lanney Ratcliff > > To: > > Date: 1/8/03 6:29:06 PM > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyhow I saw in a T&LR recently that someone had used a travios to pack > > > their stuff on. Has anyone else used one? > > > > I presume you are refering to a human propelled travois. I have used > > one....once. Trust me and forget the notion entirely unless you have the > > self control to put no more on a travois than you can carry on you back. > > The thing is capable of holding a mountain of stuff and before you know it > > you can have more plunder loaded than a mule can carry and have room to > > spare. Don't load it and test pull it around your yard for thirty or >forty > > feet and pronounce it a cinch to manage. It's a lie! As near as I could > > figure my travois (made with well cured, lightweight 10-12 foot lodgepole > > pine no more than 4 inches in diameter at the bases, mind you) gained > > between one and two pounds for each foot of travel. I hauled that > > instrument of torture less than 3/4 mile and I swear that in addition to >my > > original plunder there was an iron stove and a Mosler safe on it. > > > > > > > > I wondered if they would dig trenches as you go along making them a bit > > > unethical, at least for me. > > > > They do make two nice furrows. I don't know about ethics, but they do >make > > it easy to follow your trail. > > > > I also wonder if they would be any better than > > > a pack under most conditions but having never used one I don't know. I > > > recall someone writing that they don't sidehill very well too. They are > > > definately historical but I wonder how practical a travios is now days. > > > > Build a big one and use a horse to pull it or go lie down until the notion > > passes. A small human pulled travois??? Nix Nix Fuhgittaboutit unless > > you pack it so lightly that people think you left half you stuff at home. > > DON'T FORGET.....NO MORE THAN YOU CAN CARRY ON YOUR BACK > > Now....on the other hand having the little 7X7 pryamid tent I packed in > > along with the two shear poles to hold it up, pretty much saved my arse >when > > the weather turned very rainy...stormy, in fact...... and the temp hovered > > just above freezing for a couple of days. Having an entirely enclosed >tent > > was a blessing beyond belief. Warm and dry beats cold and wet every time. > > So, do what you think best but if the experience leaves you broken and > > bleeding don't say I didn't warn you. > > > > Good Luck > > Lanney Ratcliff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then again maybe I just don't like the idea that those poles might bend >my > > > "gril friends" ears as Crazy calls her on his website! > > > > > > Wynn Ormond > > > >---------------------- Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without. John Kramer - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:51:31 -0500 From: "Double Edge Forge" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios Hey John. If I could just talk Gwen into carrying everything, all would be grand...' D - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kramer" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:45 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios > The travois was an implement of the Plains Culture, first with dogs later > horses. On the Plains it allowed packing goods without needing a lot of > specialized pack gear. Other than on the Plains they are too cumbersome to > use. I tried one on a horse and it is better than nothing to pack on. I'm > certain after a thousand miles of hauling one some old timey tricks would > be learned, which would make it lots easier; there's a technique and > learning to near everything. Packs and saddles were easier for me to make > work, everywhere. With packs on mules you can go lots of places a travois > can't possibly get through. > > For hand use one of several styles of sled or sledge would be much more > practical and at least as appropriate. Toboggan, dog sled (several > excellent styles to choose from), or one of the aforementioned sledges all > can be very practical ways to tote heavier loads. The best one to use > depends on the terrain where you use it, and the season you use it in, and > a whether you have a buddy to help with the "push-me-pull-you". > > Or just do without! > > John... > > > > At 08:13 PM 1/8/03, you wrote: > >I also tried a human powered travois ONCE...... We abandonded the idea > >quickly. We took one pole at a time, tied a bundle to it, put one pole one > >one guys shoulder, the other end of pole on the other guys shoulder and > >carried in that way. The friction (drag) made the travois very > >impracticle. We quickly learned why the old timers made the BIG animals > >pull the travois. I agree with lanney, the only way you could pull a > >travois with a man is to have the load so light you might as well carry it > >on your back and not fight the forces of physics (drag). My opinion, > >hardtack > > > >Randal Bublitz > >rjbublitz@earthlink.net > >Freedom is Not Free > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Lanney Ratcliff > > > To: > > > Date: 1/8/03 6:29:06 PM > > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyhow I saw in a T&LR recently that someone had used a travios to pack > > > > their stuff on. Has anyone else used one? > > > > > > I presume you are refering to a human propelled travois. I have used > > > one....once. Trust me and forget the notion entirely unless you have the > > > self control to put no more on a travois than you can carry on you back. > > > The thing is capable of holding a mountain of stuff and before you know it > > > you can have more plunder loaded than a mule can carry and have room to > > > spare. Don't load it and test pull it around your yard for thirty or > >forty > > > feet and pronounce it a cinch to manage. It's a lie! As near as I could > > > figure my travois (made with well cured, lightweight 10-12 foot lodgepole > > > pine no more than 4 inches in diameter at the bases, mind you) gained > > > between one and two pounds for each foot of travel. I hauled that > > > instrument of torture less than 3/4 mile and I swear that in addition to > >my > > > original plunder there was an iron stove and a Mosler safe on it. > > > > > > > > > > > I wondered if they would dig trenches as you go along making them a bit > > > > unethical, at least for me. > > > > > > They do make two nice furrows. I don't know about ethics, but they do > >make > > > it easy to follow your trail. > > > > > > I also wonder if they would be any better than > > > > a pack under most conditions but having never used one I don't know. I > > > > recall someone writing that they don't sidehill very well too. They are > > > > definately historical but I wonder how practical a travios is now days. > > > > > > Build a big one and use a horse to pull it or go lie down until the notion > > > passes. A small human pulled travois??? Nix Nix Fuhgittaboutit unless > > > you pack it so lightly that people think you left half you stuff at home. > > > DON'T FORGET.....NO MORE THAN YOU CAN CARRY ON YOUR BACK > > > Now....on the other hand having the little 7X7 pryamid tent I packed in > > > along with the two shear poles to hold it up, pretty much saved my arse > >when > > > the weather turned very rainy...stormy, in fact...... and the temp hovered > > > just above freezing for a couple of days. Having an entirely enclosed > >tent > > > was a blessing beyond belief. Warm and dry beats cold and wet every time. > > > So, do what you think best but if the experience leaves you broken and > > > bleeding don't say I didn't warn you. > > > > > > Good Luck > > > Lanney Ratcliff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then again maybe I just don't like the idea that those poles might bend > >my > > > > "gril friends" ears as Crazy calls her on his website! > > > > > > > > Wynn Ormond > > > > > > > >---------------------- > > Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without. > John Kramer > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:14:54 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: MtMan-List: Laura Glise's spiced pecans This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C2B76B.C0B07A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laura Glise, God rest her soul, used to make spiced pecans she called = "mountaineers nuts" and they were spectacularly tasty. We have a bumper = crop of pecans to use but I cannot find the recipe.......but I know she = shared it on the internet. Does anybody have a copy of her recipe? If = not, I will try to get it from her husband. I hope to visit her grave = before I get well enough to have to go back to work. Presumably her = marker will be in place and I will have photos to share with anybody = interested. Lanney Ratcliff lanneyratcliff@charter.net ______________________________________________________________ Aux Aliments du Pays - ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C2B76B.C0B07A50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C2B76B.C0B07A50-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:40:26 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios John, After trying many means of packing gear, I have reverted to an ooooldddd method I learned as a youngster...... hope no one complains about my little red wagon in camp ........ hardtack Randal Bublitz rjbublitz@earthlink.net Freedom is Not Free > > The travois was an implement of the Plains Culture, first with dogs later > horses. On the Plains it allowed packing goods without needing a lot of > specialized pack gear. Other than on the Plains they are too cumbersome to > use. I tried one on a horse and it is better than nothing to pack on. I'm > certain after a thousand miles of hauling one some old timey tricks would > be learned, which would make it lots easier; there's a technique and > learning to near everything. Packs and saddles were easier for me to make > work, everywhere. With packs on mules you can go lots of places a travois > can't possibly get through. > > For hand use one of several styles of sled or sledge would be much more > practical and at least as appropriate. Toboggan, dog sled (several > excellent styles to choose from), or one of the aforementioned sledges all > can be very practical ways to tote heavier loads. The best one to use > depends on the terrain where you use it, and the season you use it in, and > a whether you have a buddy to help with the "push-me-pull-you". > > Or just do without! > > John... - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:29:56 -0700 From: "Wynn Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios Mr Miles wrote: > Hey John. > If I could just talk Gwen into carrying everything, all would be grand...' Like I said earlier, check out Crazy's website. Under, I believe, horse doins there is pic of my "gril friend" carrying all my stuff and mosta Crazy's too. I just hope for your sake that Gwen is a heap better looking than she is. Or at least not as "intelligent" as mule people like to call them. Randal Bublitz wrote: >John, After trying many means of packing gear, I have reverted to an >ooooldddd method I learned as a youngster...... hope no one complains >about my little red wagon in camp ........ hardtack Red is very historical color and wagons are in Millers paintings. Even read about them in Meeks story. I just can't see any reason someone would complain especially if you used the extra carrying capacity for an earthenware jug. Actually when I asked the original question I was referring to a horse drawn aparatus, however it was from memory of comments from one of you who had tried a human drawn travois that made me question the gains of a horse drawn travois. John's comment that it is better than nothing may be the key to its use. If you can rig up some kind of saddle to hook it to and a little rope etc a person can be on his way with both he and a load being carried. I may have to try it sometime just to say I have. May be a photo op. I could do the Trinity thing and sleep as we go. Wynn - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:56:43 -0500 From: "Double Edge Forge" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios Wynn, I believe I will tell Gwen you compared her to a mule and let it go from there.. I thinks I will sell tickts to this.. D - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:30:00 -0700 From: "Wynn Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travois I believe I have made another mistake. I feel fortunate that you live in Ohio and I live . . . . elsewhere. Wynn - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Double Edge Forge" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:56 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios > Wynn, > I believe I will tell Gwen you compared her to a mule and let it go from > there.. I thinks I will sell tickts to this.. > D > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:55:30 -0500 From: "Double Edge Forge" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travois Heck Wynn, It ain't that far to Utah... D - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wynn Ormond" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travois > I believe I have made another mistake. I feel fortunate that you live in > Ohio and I live . . . . elsewhere. > Wynn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Double Edge Forge" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:56 AM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travios > > > > Wynn, > > I believe I will tell Gwen you compared her to a mule and let it go from > > there.. I thinks I will sell tickts to this.. > > D > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 12:40:08 -0700 From: "Wynn Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travois > Heck Wynn, > It ain't that far to Utah... > D > Especially Southern Utah. Way down. . . . like St George or maybe El Paso. WY - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:55:44 -0700 From: "Wynn Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travois > > > Heck Wynn, > > It ain't that far to Utah... > > D > > > Man, I never knew that the Internet could be so dangerous. It gives a whole new meaning to Internet Safety. WY - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:22:40 EST From: JSeminerio@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Laura Glise's spiced pecans - --part1_20.6def881.2b4fb2a0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If we get you the recipes will you share us some pecans? John (I can find you anything wholesale) Seminerio - --part1_20.6def881.2b4fb2a0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If we get you the recipes will you share us some pecans?

John (I can find you anything wholesale) Seminerio
- --part1_20.6def881.2b4fb2a0_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:01:01 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Laura Glise's spiced pecans This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C2B83B.5C4D5B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will send a quart of the first batch of mountaineer's nuts (her name = for the spiced pecans) to the first person who sends me Laura Jean's = own recipe. Fair enough? Lanney ----- Original Message -----=20 From: JSeminerio@aol.com=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:22 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Laura Glise's spiced pecans If we get you the recipes will you share us some pecans?=20 John (I can find you anything wholesale) Seminerio - ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C2B83B.5C4D5B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I will send a quart = of  the first=20 batch of mountaineer's nuts (her name for the spiced = pecans)  to=20 the first person who sends me Laura Jean's own recipe.  = Fair=20 enough?
Lanney
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Sent: Thursday, January 09, = 2003 11:22=20 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Laura = Glise's=20 spiced pecans

If we get = you the=20 recipes will you share us some pecans?

John (I can find you = anything=20 wholesale) Seminerio
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