From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1139 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Tuesday, January 28 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1139 In this issue: -       MtMan-List: Remove -       Re: MtMan-List: Super Bowl Beaver -       Re: MtMan-List: Remove ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:42:11 -0800 From: "Curtis Taylor" Subject: MtMan-List: Remove Please remove littlejoe@wave.net from the list, thank you. =================================================== Unseen they suffer, unheard they cry. In agony they linger, in loneliness they die. Animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment - ----- Original Message ----- From: "hist_text-digest" To: Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1138 > > hist_text-digest Monday, January 27 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1138 > > > > In this issue: > > - Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > - Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > - Fw: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > - Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > - Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > - MtMan-List: Upcoming Events (that I know of) in the Pacific NW > - MtMan-List: Mayer? > - Re: MtMan-List: Mayer? > - MtMan-List: Super Bowl Beaver > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:19:10 EST > From: MarkLoader@aol.com > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > > - --part1_122.1dde34df.2b63784e_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I got that out of "A Life Wild and Perilous" By Robert M. Utley on pages > 268-269. His source is from "Exploration of the Valley of the Great Salt Lake > of Utah" By Howard Stansbury. First published in 1852 pages 247-248. > Bill Gantic > > - --part1_122.1dde34df.2b63784e_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I got that out of  "A Life Wild and Perilous" By Robert M. Utley on pages 268-269. His source is from "Exploration of the Valley of the Great Salt Lake of Utah" By Howard Stansbury. First published in 1852 pages 247-248.
> Bill Gantic > > - --part1_122.1dde34df.2b63784e_boundary-- > > - ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:16:30 -0700 > From: "Tom Ballstaedt" > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2C452.72517AA0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > does anybody have dean rudy's e-mail adress sorry for the off the = > topic intrusion........ tom #1834 ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: MarkLoader@aol.com=20 > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:19 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > > > I got that out of "A Life Wild and Perilous" By Robert M. Utley on = > pages 268-269. His source is from "Exploration of the Valley of the = > Great Salt Lake of Utah" By Howard Stansbury. First published in 1852 = > pages 247-248. > Bill Gantic=20 > > - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2C452.72517AA0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >
does anybody have dean rudy's  = > e-mail=20 > adress    sorry for the off the topic = > intrusion........ tom=20 > #1834   ----- Original Message -----
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = > BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = > black">From:=20 > href=3D"mailto:MarkLoader@aol.com">MarkLoader@aol.com > >
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 = > 10:19=20 > PM
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump = > Ribs
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face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 > size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF">I got that out of  "A Life Wild = > and Perilous"=20 > By Robert M. Utley on pages 268-269. His source is from "Exploration = > of the=20 > Valley of the Great Salt Lake of Utah" By Howard Stansbury. First = > published in=20 > 1852 pages 247-248.
Bill Gantic=20 > > > - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2C452.72517AA0-- > > > - ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:10:08 -0600 > From: "Lanney Ratcliff" > Subject: Fw: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > - ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C2C462.52745530 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Tom > Try this address for Dean. > Lanney Ratcliff > > Dean Rudy > E-mail Address(es): > drudy@xmission.com > > > - ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Tom Ballstaedt=20 > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 10:16 AM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > > > does anybody have dean rudy's e-mail adress sorry for the off the = > topic intrusion........ tom #1834 ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: MarkLoader@aol.com=20 > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:19 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > > > I got that out of "A Life Wild and Perilous" By Robert M. Utley on = > pages 268-269. His source is from "Exploration of the Valley of the = > Great Salt Lake of Utah" By Howard Stansbury. First published in 1852 = > pages 247-248. > Bill Gantic > - ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C2C462.52745530 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >
Tom
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Try this address for = > Dean.
>
Lanney = > Ratcliff
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Dean Rudy
E-mail=20 > Address(es):
  href=3D"mailto:drudy@xmission.com">drudy@xmission.com
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----- Original Message -----=20 >
From: title=3Dthsb@earthlink.net href=3D"mailto:thsb@earthlink.net">Tom = > Ballstaedt=20 >
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Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 10:16 AM
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs
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does anybody have dean rudy's  = > e-mail=20 > adress    sorry for the off the topic = > intrusion........ tom=20 > #1834   ----- Original Message -----
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = > BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = > black">From:=20 > href=3D"mailto:MarkLoader@aol.com">MarkLoader@aol.com > >
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 = > 10:19=20 > PM
>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump = > Ribs
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face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 > size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF">I got that out of  "A Life Wild = > and Perilous"=20 > By Robert M. Utley on pages 268-269. His source is from "Exploration = > of the=20 > Valley of the Great Salt Lake of Utah" By Howard Stansbury. First = > published in=20 > 1852 pages 247-248.
Bill Gantic=20 > > > - ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C2C462.52745530-- > > > > - ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:13:27 -0800 > From: tetontodd@juno.com > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > - ----__JNP_000_2aa7.22d3.4ca0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Tom ole Buddy. > > It's drudy@xmission.com That is of course on our party website! Missed > you last weekend, the camp was fantastic! > > Todd > > On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:16:30 -0700 "Tom Ballstaedt" > writes: > does anybody have dean rudy's e-mail adress sorry for the off the > topic intrusion........ tom #1834 ----- Original Message ----- > From: MarkLoader@aol.com > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:19 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > > > I got that out of "A Life Wild and Perilous" By Robert M. Utley on pages > 268-269. His source is from "Exploration of the Valley of the Great Salt > Lake of Utah" By Howard Stansbury. First published in 1852 pages 247-248. > Bill Gantic > - ----__JNP_000_2aa7.22d3.4ca0 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > >
Tom ole Buddy.
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>
It's href=3D"mailto:drudy@xmission.com">drudy@xmission.com   = > That=20 > is of course on our party website! Missed you last weekend, the camp was=20 > fantastic!
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Todd
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:16:30 -0700 "Tom Ballstaedt" < href=3D"mailto:thsb@earthlink.net">thsb@earthlink.net> writes:
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does anybody have dean rudy's  e-= > mail=20 > adress    sorry for the off the topic intrusion......= > ..=20 > tom #1834   ----- Original Message -----
> style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">= > From:=20 > title=3DMarkLoader@aol.com>MarkLoader@aol.com >
To: href=3D"mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com"=20 > title=3Dhist_text@lists.xmission.com>hist_text@lists.xmission.com <= > /DIV> >
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 = > 10:19=20 > PM
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump=20 > Ribs
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Roman"=20 > lang=3D0 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF">I got that out of  "A = > Life Wild and=20 > Perilous" By Robert M. Utley on pages 268-269. His source is from=20 > "Exploration of the Valley of the Great Salt Lake of Utah" By Howard=20 > Stansbury. First published in 1852 pages 247-248.
Bill=20 > Gantic >
 
> > - ----__JNP_000_2aa7.22d3.4ca0-- > > > - ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:13:50 -0700 > From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C51B.3D33F7C0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Thank you Mr Gantic for the source info. I find I to often collect = > quotes without getting a good reference to them and then if I want to = > use them I can not track them down. Stansbury has some good info for = > sure. I like this quote myself. Stole it from The Mule Alternative by = > Mike Staamm: > > We have been in company with multitudes of emigrants the whole day. The = > road has been lined to a long extent with their wagons, whose white = > covers, glittering in the sunlight, resembled, at a distance, ships upon = > the ocean. We passed a company from Boston, consisting of seventy = > persons, one hundred and forty pack and riding mules, a number of riding = > horses, and a drove of cattle for beef. The expedition, as might be = > expected, and as is to generally the case, was badly conducted: the = > mules were overloaded, and the manner of securing and arranging the = > packs elicited many a sarcastic criticism from our party, most of whom = > were old mountain-men, with whom the making of a pack and the loading of = > a mule amounted to a science. > > Southcentral Nebraska. June 12, 1849 > > Captain Howard Stansbury=20 > > Army topographical engineer > > > > > > Wynn Ormond > > =20 > > =20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: MarkLoader@aol.com=20 > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:19 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump Ribs > > > I got that out of "A Life Wild and Perilous" By Robert M. Utley on = > pages 268-269. His source is from "Exploration of the Valley of the = > Great Salt Lake of Utah" By Howard Stansbury. First published in 1852 = > pages 247-248. > Bill Gantic=20 > > - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C51B.3D33F7C0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >
Thank you Mr Gantic for the source = > info.  I=20 > find I to often collect quotes without getting a good reference to them = > and then=20 > if I want to use them I can not track them down.  Stansbury has = > some=20 > good info for sure.  I like this quote myself.  Stole it = > from The=20 > Mule Alternative by Mike Staamm:
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We have been in company with multitudes of emigrants the whole day. = > The road=20 > has been lined to a long extent with their wagons, whose white covers,=20 > glittering in the sunlight, resembled, at a distance, ships upon the = > ocean. We=20 > passed a company from Boston, consisting of seventy persons, one hundred = > and=20 > forty pack and riding mules, a number of riding horses, and a drove of = > cattle=20 > for beef. The expedition, as might be expected, and as is to generally = > the case,=20 > was badly conducted: the mules were overloaded, and the manner of = > securing and=20 > arranging the packs elicited many a sarcastic criticism from our party, = > most of=20 > whom were old mountain-men, with whom the making of a pack and the = > loading of a=20 > mule amounted to a science.

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Southcentral Nebraska. June 12, 1849

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Captain Howard Stansbury

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Army topographical engineer

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Wynn Ormond

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----- Original Message -----
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = > black">From:=20 > href=3D"mailto:MarkLoader@aol.com">MarkLoader@aol.com
> >
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 = > 10:19=20 > PM
>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hump = > Ribs
>
size=3D2>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF">I got that = > out of  "A=20 > Life Wild and Perilous" By Robert M. Utley on pages 268-269. His = > source is=20 > from "Exploration of the Valley of the Great Salt Lake of Utah" By = > Howard=20 > Stansbury. First published in 1852 pages 247-248.
Bill=20 > Gantic > > - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C51B.3D33F7C0-- > > > - ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:23:14 -0800 > From: "Lee Newbill" > Subject: MtMan-List: Upcoming Events (that I know of) in the Pacific NW > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > - ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2C52D.51339390 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi Folks... just a note on things coming up in the Pacific Northwest = > thru March, that I am aware of. > > Regards > > Lee Newbill of North Idaho > www.hogheavenmuzzleloaders.com > http://users.potlatch.com/bluethistle > www.mountaintoptradingco.com > > Jan 31 > Tacoma Mountain Man=92s Winter Rendezvous & Civil War Winter Quarters > Linda Hansen (253) 839-2543 > Eric Hansen (253) 922 8440 > Jan 31- Feb 2 > Cabin Fever Rondy, Forest Hills BP > Brigade, Yamhill OR > Jack Meade (503) 324-6700 > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -= > - ------- > > February > Feb 1-2, 2003 > Tioga Mountian Men Winter Rendezvous > Coos Bay Oregon (10 miles east of Coos Bay at Rook Higgins Park) > POC: Ken Sjogren: 541-396-5565 =20 > > Feb 14-16, 2003 > Rain-De-Vous '03 > Olympia, Washington (south of) (Littlerock,Wa) > POC: Booshway- Robinson Hartsell (360) 459-2387 or Segundo- Kevin Stuber = > (360) 483-1349 > Tom Brown (360) 352-5984 > > Feb 15-16 2003 > Muzzleloader & Early American Craft Show > Coeur D'Alene, Idaho, At the Fairgrounds > Tony (509) 397-4447 > > Feb 15, 16 > Frontier Heritage Fair, Lane County Fairgrounds > Eugene Oregon > Fort Umpqua Muzzleloaders, P. O. Box 566, Springfield Or. 97477 > > Feb. 19-23 =20 > Horse Ridge Rendezvous, Grizzly Mt. > Long Rifles, Bend OR =20 > Carol Harden (541) 546-2205 > Ken Miltonberger (541) 389-7007 > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -= > - ------- > > March > > Mar 8 & 9 > 22d Annual Cascade Mountain Men Muzzleloading & Pioneer Craft Show > King County Fairgrounds, Enumclaw, WA > Walt Christensen (206) 878-4907 > > Mar 9, 2003 (2nd weekend in March) > Muzzleloading Clubs of the Snake & Clearwater Confluence Memorial Shoot > Near Clarkston, Washington > POC: Russell Page at (208) 435-4416, email russ_89049@yahoo.com;=20 > Don Robinson, email dtrobinson@hotmail.com > > Mar 13-16 > Evergreen Spring Thaw Rendezvous > Evergreen Sportsmen=92s Club, Littlerock, WA > Pete Strobl (360) 352-1800 > > Mar 14-16, 2003 > 7th Annual Pioneer Living Craft Show=20 > Kitsap County Fairgrounds, Bremerton, WA > POC: Too Frank email at toofrank@attbi.com, or phone at (253) 472-6110 > > Mar 29 & 30 > Yakima Valley Muzzleloaders Musket Match > Yakima, WA=20 > Terry Savage (509) 965- 0079 > Wayne Worgum (509) 966-6673 = > =20 > > - ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2C52D.51339390 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="Windows-1252" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Dwindows-1252"> > > > > >
Hi Folks... just a note on things coming up in = > the Pacific=20 > Northwest thru March, that I am aware of.
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Regards
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Lee Newbill of North Idaho
href=3D"http://www.hogheavenmuzzleloaders.com">www.hogheavenmuzzleloaders= > .com
href=3D"http://users.potlatch.com/bluethistle">http://users.potlatch.com/= > bluethistle
>
href=3D"http://www.mountaintoptradingco.com">www.mountaintoptradingco.com= >
>

face=3DArial>Jan 31
Tacoma Mountain Man=92s Winter = > Rendezvous=20 > & Civil War Winter Quarters
Linda Hansen (253) = > 839-2543 prefix =3D o />
Eric Hansen (253) 922 = > 8440
>
>

Jan = > 31- Feb=20 > 2
Cabin Fever Rondy, Forest Hills BP
Brigade, Yamhill = > OR
Jack=20 > Meade (503) 324-6700

face=3DArial> >
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size=3D3>February

>

Feb 1-2,=20 > 2003
 href=3D"rendz_flyers_2003/tioga_mt_mn.gif"> size=3D3>Tioga=20 > Mountian Men Winter Rendezvous
face=3DArial>Coos Bay Oregon (10 miles east of Coos = > Bay at Rook=20 > Higgins Park)
POC: Ken Sjogren:=20 > 541-396-5565 

>

Feb 14-16, = > 2003
 href=3D"rendz_flyers_2003/rain_de_voo_2003.gif"> size=3D3>Rain-De-Vous '03
size=3D3>Olympia,=20 > Washington (south of) (Littlerock,Wa)
POC: Booshway- Robinson = > Hartsell (360)=20 > 459-2387 or Segundo- Kevin Stuber (360) = > 483-1349
size=3D3>Tom Brown (360)=20 > 352-5984

>

Feb 15-16 = > 2003
 href=3D"rendz_flyers_2003/cda_2003.gif"> size=3D3>Muzzleloader &=20 > Early American Craft Show
size=3D3>Coeur D'Alene,=20 > Idaho, At the Fairgrounds
face=3DArial>Tony (509) 397-4447

>

Feb = > 15,=20 > 16
Frontier Heritage Fair, Lane County Fairgrounds
Eugene = > > Oregon
Fort = > Umpqua=20 > Muzzleloaders, P. O. Box 566, Springfield Or.=20 > 97477

>

Feb. = > 19-23 =20 >
Horse Ridge Rendezvous, Grizzly Mt.
Long Rifles, Bend OR = > >     
Carol Harden (541)=20 > 546-2205
Ken = > Miltonberger=20 > (541) 389-7007

>
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size=3D3>March

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Mar 8 = > &=20 > 9
22d Annual Cascade Mountain Men Muzzleloading & = > Pioneer Craft=20 > Show
King County Fairgrounds, Enumclaw, WA
Walt = > Christensen=20 > (206) 878-4907

>

Mar 9, 2003 = > (2nd style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  weekend in=20 > March)
 href=3D"rendz_flyers_2003/memorial.htm"> face=3DArial size=3D3>Muzzleloading Clubs of the Snake & Clearwater = > Confluence=20 > Memorial Shoot
Near = > Clarkston,=20 > Washington
POC: Russell Page at (208) 435-4416, email href=3D"mailto:russ_89049@yahoo.com"> size=3D3>russ_89049@yahoo.com;=20 >
Don Robinson, email = > href=3D"mailto:dtrobinson@hotmail.com"> size=3D3>dtrobinson@hotmail.com

>

Mar=20 > 13-16
Evergreen Spring Thaw Rendezvous
Evergreen = > Sportsmen=92s=20 > Club, Littlerock, WA
Pete Strobl (360)=20 > 352-1800

>

Mar = > 14-16,=20 > 2003
7th Annual Pioneer Living Craft Show
Kitsap County=20 > Fairgrounds, Bremerton,  WA
POC: href=3D"mailto:toofrank@attbi.com">Too=20 > Frank email at href=3D"mailto:toofrank@attbi.com"> size=3D3>toofrank@attbi.com, or = > phone at (253)=20 > 472-6110

>

Mar = > 29 &=20 > 30
Yakima Valley Muzzleloaders Musket Match
Yakima, WA = >
Terry=20 > Savage (509) 965- 0079
Wayne Worgum (509)=20 > 966-6673   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; = > mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"> style=3D"mso-tab-count: = > 2">           &nbs= > p;  =20 > style=3D"mso-tab-count: = > 5">           &nbs= > p;            = > ;            = >   =20 > style=3D"mso-spacerun: = > yes">           &n= > bsp;  =20 >

> > - ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2C52D.51339390-- > > > - ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:52:38 -0700 > From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" > Subject: MtMan-List: Mayer? > > I have three drawings by Frank Blackwell Mayer drawn in 1851 of a Canadian. > Can anyone tell who Mayer is and where he traveled from or too? > > The caption says . . ."dressed as they appeared at rendezvous" He could not > have attended a rendezvous in 1851 so maybe they exagerated. Nice details > that are not exactly in agreement with Miller. > > WY > > > > - ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:31:03 -0700 > From: "John L. Allen" > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mayer? > > Dear Wynn and list, > > Frank Blackwell Mayer was a Baltimore artist, b. 1822 d. 1899 who studied > with Alfred Jacob Miller in the 1840s--this explains where some of the > detail in his western sketches comes from. His best known work With pen and > pencil on the frontier in 1851; the diary and sketches of Frank Blackwell > Mayer, by Francis Blackwell Mayer (Saint Paul, 1932) dealt with the treaty > conferences in the upper Midwest in 1851 (Indian cessions of parts of > southern Minnesota and adjacent areas of Iowa and the Dakotas) and most of > his Indian sketches are of Sioux. There is a good collection of Mayer's work > at the Newberry Library in Chicago but I don't know of any other significant > holdings in art museums in the US or Canada. His publication is quite > rare--if you can find a copy of it for under $200 you've probably got a very > good deal. > > John > > > Dr. John L. Allen > 2703 Leslie Court > Laramie, WY 82072-2979 > Phone: (307) 742-0883 > e-mail: jlallen@wyoming.com > > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 1:52 PM > Subject: MtMan-List: Mayer? > > > > I have three drawings by Frank Blackwell Mayer drawn in 1851 of a > Canadian. > > Can anyone tell who Mayer is and where he traveled from or too? > > > > The caption says . . ."dressed as they appeared at rendezvous" He could > not > > have attended a rendezvous in 1851 so maybe they exagerated. Nice details > > that are not exactly in agreement with Miller. > > > > WY > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > > - ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:18:34 -0700 (MST) > From: > Subject: MtMan-List: Super Bowl Beaver > > Dear List, > A few of us up here went on a small beaver trapping trip on the Upper > Missouri River this weekend. It was -6 below at my house when I got up > Saturday but was a balmy 40 above or so after crossing over the mountains > and sometimes drizzling rain! The chinook winds were blowing and it ended > up getting up to 56 degrees by my house after the low of -6 below that > morning! The temperature climbed 19 degrees in one hour with the chinook > winds. Chinook is indian (Blackfoot?) for Snow Eater, isn't it? > Anyway, our camp was small with two fly's and one small wedge. Two > trappers and 4 campkeepers. Vince put out the traps as I stood guard. We > found fresh otter and beaver sign in the snow and Vince even discovered a > very fresh otter toilet, only a day old. As Vince was setting his traps a > small beaver swam to within 6 feet of him! Vince used his own bait and we > got out 4 trap sets (I ended up setting 2 and Vince set 2) and returned to > camp. > We spent the night talking and getting to know each other as this was > the first time a few of us had met. We ate some of Mike's deer, some of > Gene's buffalo and drank my Madeira and Allen's rum. A good time was had > by all. I had too much of a good time! > The next morning I was the last to get up and when I did I found all > the other camps down and rolled up already! It was the first good nights > rest I had in a week due to my job. Vince was rearing to go check his > traps but I wasn't in a big hurry as I knew the otter would be out at this > time. I was also a bit sea sick already and didn't feel like rocking in a > canoe so soon. Steve and Vince took the canoe to check and pull the traps. > I watched from the shore as Vince pulled in a very nice dark and very > prime beaver that weighed about 35-40 pounds I'll guess. All of camp was > happy as it was a successful hunt. We all then loaded up and headed to our > homes to watch the Super Bowl. > Good luck to all of you on the trail, > BB > > > > - ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ------------------------------ > > End of hist_text-digest V1 #1138 > ******************************** > > - > To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to > "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message. > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:52:54 -0800 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Super Bowl Beaver The temperature climbed 19 degrees in one hour with the chinook > winds. Chinook is indian (Blackfoot?) for Snow Eater, isn't it? Beaver Boy, Sounds like you all had a grand hunt. Chinook is a coastal Indian word and has been adopted to discribe the warm winds that blow down from the mountains to suddenly raise temps and melt snow in front of your eyes. There is another wind that blows back out from the inland Columbia Basin through the Columbia River Gorge called Coho. YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:18:52 EST From: GazeingCyot@cs.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Remove - --part1_c.85b09b3.2b6788dc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, little Joe ya can get your self off the same way ya got your self on. If what was at the bottom of your post is the way you feal your going to be mighty hungry and clod in these here Rockies, flat landau. Animals were made for eaten and warein or you were made for dyin and that is just the way it was. Best Regards, Crazy Cyot you said: Unseen they suffer, unheard they cry. In agony they linger, in loneliness they die.( That is what happens to them that went in to the mountains thinking,) Animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment That's what you think! Flat lander, Meats Meat and without it and something to protect ya from the elements your just gone beaver! my friend. - --part1_c.85b09b3.2b6788dc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, little Joe ya can get your self off the same way ya got your self on.
If what was at the bottom of your post is the way you feal your going to be mighty hungry and clod in these here Rockies, flat landau. Animals were made for eaten and warein or you were made for dyin and that is just the way it was.
Best Regards,
Crazy Cyot
you said:
Unseen they suffer, unheard they cry. In agony they linger, in loneliness
they die.( That is what happens to them that went in to the mountains thinking,)
Animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment

That's what you think! Flat lander, Meats Meat and without it and something to protect ya from the elements your just gone beaver! my friend.
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