From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1377 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Saturday, July 17 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1377 In this issue: -       RE: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick Exhibitio n -       Re: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick Exhibition -       MtMan-List: The Black Hills! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:22:56 -0600 From: "Henry B. Crawford" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick Exhibitio n > > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:43:04 -0700 > From: Pat Quilter > Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick Exhibitio n > > There is a general principle of "fair use" that permits limited copying for > non-commercial purposes, with no intent of personal profit (particularly > when out of print). I'm no lawyer though. > Pat Quilter. > Pat is right. The Fair Use doctrine is correct insofar as it applies to educational uses only. Individuals may copy *PORTIONS* of a publication or manuscript for their own personal educational non-commercial uses. In my profession we have to think about copyright all the time. Museums, universities, libraries, and researchers often copy under the Doctrine of Fair Use. If information is published from the copied document, the document is footnoted and cited as any other source would be. Having a copy of a chapter of MMM for your own personal use and enlightenment is A-OK. HBC (aka Double Mountains) *************************************** Henry B. Crawford Curator of History Museum of Texas Tech University Box 43191 4th and Indiana Lubbock, TX 79409-3191 henry.b.crawford@ttu.edu 806/742-2442 FAX 742-1136 Website: http://www.museum.ttu.edu *** Living History . . . Because It's There *** - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:43:06 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick Exhibition Hi Henry, good to see you on the list for the first time in a while. Lanney - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry B. Crawford" To: "Fur Trade list" Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:22 PM Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick Exhibition > > > > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:43:04 -0700 > > From: Pat Quilter > > Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick Exhibitio n > > > > There is a general principle of "fair use" that permits limited copying for > > non-commercial purposes, with no intent of personal profit (particularly > > when out of print). I'm no lawyer though. > > Pat Quilter. > > > > Pat is right. The Fair Use doctrine is correct insofar as it applies to > educational uses only. Individuals may copy *PORTIONS* of a publication or > manuscript for their own personal educational non-commercial uses. In my > profession we have to think about copyright all the time. Museums, > universities, libraries, and researchers often copy under the Doctrine of > Fair Use. If information is published from the copied document, the > document is footnoted and cited as any other source would be. > > Having a copy of a chapter of MMM for your own personal use and > enlightenment is A-OK. > > HBC (aka Double Mountains) > > *************************************** > Henry B. Crawford > Curator of History > Museum of Texas Tech University > Box 43191 > 4th and Indiana > Lubbock, TX 79409-3191 > henry.b.crawford@ttu.edu > 806/742-2442 FAX 742-1136 > Website: http://www.museum.ttu.edu > *** Living History . . . Because It's There *** > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 16:54:11 -0600 (MDT) From: beaverboy@sofast.net Subject: MtMan-List: The Black Hills! Dear List, My son and I just got back from our 1472 mile round-trip Black Hills tour! The Black Hills are certainly wonderful and it's no wonder so many Mountain Men and travelers only got this far. They are big enough mountains for most any Mountain Man! I was pleasantly surprised to see oak trees growing among the pines in our camp! The first oaks I have seen in years. Saw no elk or wild turkeys but plenty of muley's. Found out Sturgis is named for a Captain who died with Custer at the Little Bighorn while in Sturgis and visiting Old Fort Meade. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=gcg8yy&Submit6=Find But one of the neatest things we saw was the Vore Bison Jump just west of Beulah, Wyoming! I've seen some of the greatest bison jumps in the west but this one has got to be one of the most unusual. It is a small sink hole not too big compared to the open prairie it sits on. It actually fits between the frontage road and Highway 90. I was very surprised how small it was. But it has the remains of 20,000 bison in it! Worth seeing if you happen to be in Beulah Wyoming (pop 33) http://www.sundancewyoming.com/vore.htm http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2003/06/11/news/wyoming/240dd7ac129a45ebfe206398d42db0fc.txt I lived in Wyoming for three years and it was great seeing it so green out and with the contrasting red dirt. By time we got to northern Wyoming just south of Billings Mt. it was the same old Wyoming I knew and loved, hot, dry, dusty and windy! Must have been just shy of a 100 degrees when we took a hike up a sage brush covered hillside searching for another geocache. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=gca708&Submit6=Find It was a fun trip and we finished off with a visit to the Custer Battlefield. It was near a hundred degrees there too if not hotter and it was easy to imagine those poor troopers sitting on top of those ridges about dieing of thirst. I’m most impressed by water carriers ravine where 16 men volunteered to go down to the Little Bighorn for water. I’m sure those men drank as much as they could too when they got there. With cover gunfire they retrieved water for the rest of the men. 24 congressional Medals of Honor were awarded for bravery at the Little Bighorn Battlefield. Those who fought there where in one heck of an ordeal. All on the list must see this incredible battlefield. It was my son’s first time there and my third time there but I never get tired of seeing it. We found a cache there as well. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=gc6f9e&Submit6=Find A nice painting inside the Battlefield museum is titled "After the Battle" by J R Ralston In it one Indian can be seen throwing his flintlock tradegun aside as he grabs a new trapdoor carbine! I got a chuckle out of that. Of course we viewed Mt. Rushmore too which my son really liked seeing. Now I have to rent North by Northwest for us to watch the famous "faces" scene. I hope the links work. Good to be home. bb - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1377 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.