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- --0__=09BBE461DFF0BE298f9e8a93df938690918c09BBE461DFF0BE29-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:04:19 -0700 From: "Matt Richards" Subject: MtMan-List: Fraudulent Brain Tan This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_02C3_01C483AA.B5523880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Folks, There are a lot of companies selling various 'imitation' brain tans these days, and as someone who does real brain tan, I have no problem with it as long as it is labeled as such. However, some businesses are attempting to sell imitations as the real thing in order to increase their profit margins. Fox Valley Leather has started selling an imitation brain tan that has been tanned with glutaraldehyde and then smoked at the end as 'real brain tan', according to their head tanner Bill Brown. If you look at their catalog it states that it is 'real brain-tan leather' ' to the specifications of the traditional tannages from the historic past'. If you call their customer service people and ask if this is real brain tan, tanned with just brains and woodsmoke, they will tell you that it indeed is, as will their owner Scott Drollinger. If you talk to Bill Brown, the head tanner, he will tell you they are glutaraldehyde tanned. They are selling them for $8 - $12 a sq ft. Basically they are selling what would normally cost $5 to $6 a square foot for $12 a sq ft by misrepresenting what they are selling. If you bought brain tan from them, this is what you got. They are usually reputable people and I'm sure they would refund your money if you asked. They started this particular episode of misleading advertising (they had one previous one) this spring. One real brain tanner, Mike Foltmer, lost a big order for a club in Wyoming, because the members decided that they could get the same exact, genuine, brain tan from Fox Valley for less. They bought it, and have probably put hundreds of hours into making their gear out of these chemically tanned skins. 'imitation brain tans' are tanned with formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde or syntans (synthetic tannins). They have the grain removed, and often are smoked at the end to cover the chemical smell. Typically, they sell for about $5 to $6 a sq ft. They are different than brain tan in the way they perform and the way they feel on your body, and in their durability. However, if you don't want to shell out the cash for the real thing, they are the most convincing imitation. I have nothing against imitation brain tan as long as it is clearly labeled as such. If companies are allowed to use this type of misleading labeling on brain tan then the practice will spread. If you don't believe that it is appropriate to be selling chemically tanned hides as 'real brain tan' please let them know. Contacting them is hugely effective and necessary if we don't want this practice to spread. Here is their contact information. I would personally direct it at Bill Brown as he is the head tanner or Scott Drollinger the owner. Be polite. Fox Valley Tanning 633 West Center Street North Salt Lake UT 84054 800 779-2709. When the machine answers, punch 2 to get switched to their sales division, and then 5 to talk to Bill Brown their Head Tanner or 3 to talk to Scott Drollinger the owner. From 9 to 5 mountain time. foxleather@aol.com Personally I think phone calls and regular mail are the most effective. Bill or Scott are the most important people to talk to as he is the head of this project. PS. My name is Matt Richards. I wrote the book "Deerskins into Buckskins" about how to do brain tanning and host www.braintan.com. If you would like to see a screen shot of their catalog page so you know exactly how misleading this is, see http://64.124.46.34/WebX?233@@.ee83c4a/206!enclosure=.ee89d29 - ------=_NextPart_000_02C3_01C483AA.B5523880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Folks, =

There are a lot of companies = selling various 'imitation' brain tans these days, and as someone who does real = brain tan, I have no problem with it as long as it is labeled as such. = However, some businesses are attempting to sell imitations as the real thing in order = to increase their profit margins.

Fox Valley Leather has started selling an imitation brain tan that has = been tanned with glutaraldehyde and then smoked at the end as 'real brain = tan', according to their head tanner Bill Brown. If you look at their catalog = it states that it is 'real brain-tan = leather' ' to the specifications of the = traditional tannages from the historic past'. If you call their customer = service people and ask if this is real brain tan, tanned with just brains and woodsmoke, they will tell you that it indeed is, as will their owner = Scott Drollinger. If you talk to Bill Brown, the head tanner, he will tell you = they are glutaraldehyde tanned. They are selling them for $8 - $12 a sq ft. =

Basically they are selling what would normally cost $5 to $6 a square = foot for $12 a sq ft by misrepresenting what they are selling. If you bought = brain tan from them, this is what you got. They are usually reputable people and = I'm sure they would refund your money if you asked. They started this particular = episode of misleading advertising (they had one previous one) this spring. One = real brain tanner, Mike Foltmer, lost a big order for a club in Wyoming, because the members decided that they could get the same exact, genuine, = brain tan from Fox Valley for less. They bought = it, and have probably put hundreds of hours into making their gear out of these chemically tanned skins.

'imitation brain tans' are tanned with formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde or = syntans (synthetic tannins). They have the grain removed, and often are smoked = at the end to cover the chemical smell. Typically, they sell for about $5 to $6 = a sq ft. They are different than brain tan in the way they perform and the = way they feel on your body, and in their durability. However, if you don't want = to shell out the cash for the real thing, they are the most convincing = imitation.

I have nothing against imitation = brain tan as long as it is clearly labeled as such. If companies are allowed to = use this type of misleading labeling on brain tan then the practice will spread. = If you don't believe that it is appropriate to be selling chemically tanned = hides as 'real brain tan' please let them know.

Contacting them is hugely effective and necessary if we don’t want = this practice to spread. Here is their contact information. I would = personally direct it at Bill Brown as he is the head tanner or Scott Drollinger the = owner. Be polite.

Fox Valley Tanning
633 West Center Street
North Salt Lake UT 84054

800 779-2709. When the machine answers, punch 2 to get switched to their = sales division, and then 5 to talk to Bill Brown their Head Tanner or 3 to = talk to Scott Drollinger the owner. From 9 to 5 mountain time.

foxleather@aol.com

Personally I think phone calls and regular mail are the most effective. = Bill or Scott are the most important people to talk to as he is the head of this project.

PS. My name is Matt Richards. I = wrote the book “Deerskins into Buckskins” about how to do brain = tanning and host www.braintan.com. If you would like to see a screen shot of their = catalog page so you know exactly how misleading this is, see = http://64.124.46.34/WebX?233@@.ee83c4a/206!enclosure=3D.ee89d29<= /o:p>