From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #213 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, January 7 1999 Volume 01 : Number 213 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:12:31 EST From: RR1LA@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Birthday join us in Jed's old stomping grounds and celebrate his birthday at the 2nd annual Jed Smith Rendezvous at Lake Silverwood in southern California from 1/27/99 til 1/31/99. plenty of firewood and water, good friends and fun. contact me offlist for more info, or check Crazy Wolf's Calendar its an invitation only event, so contact me (rr1la@aol.com) or Ray Glazner (Glazner2@aol.com) first. yhs. 'Barney Fife' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:29:20 -0600 From: "northwoods" Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Birthday This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE39B3.3D528520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jedidiah Smith probably did more exploring of the=20 american west than any other man that has lived. In 1824 he explored the Snake River and visited the Great Salt Lake with Jim Bridger. 1826 found him buying out William Ashley after the Cache valley=20 rendezvous with two other fellas named Jackson and Sublette, then traveling to California via the southern deserts. He returned in 1827 only to turn around and find another route back to California. He must have seen enouph of California because in 1828 he made a trip to Oregon and most of the men with him were killed en route by indians. The Hudsons Bay Company helped him out by protecting him and his remaining=20 men and also recovering there stolen furs. The Yellowstone Park country is where the partners spend the winter of 1829. They travel deep into Blackfoot country and trap the Snake River, travel over the Wind River Range, spend time at the foot of the magnificent Tetons and adjacent territories, and up the Yellowstone to the headwaters. Jackson's Hole got its name on this trip.=20 In 1830 Jedidiah decided to get out of the fur business,even=20 though they had been very succesful trapping virgin=20 territory,and made fatefull plans to enter the Santa Fe trade. He was killed on the Cimmaron Crossing in 1831. Smith was one of those men that had to "see what was=20 over the next hill". He will always be at the top of my list=20 of all time greatest mountain men. =20 from the northwoods, Tony - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE39B3.3D528520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jedidiah Smith probably did more = exploring of=20 the
american west than any other man that has = lived.
In 1824 he explored the Snake River and = visited
the Great Salt Lake with Jim Bridger. 1826 = found
him buying out William Ashley after the Cache valley =
rendezvous with two other fellas named Jackson=20 and
Sublette, then traveling to California via the=20 southern
deserts. He returned in 1827 only to turn around=20 and
find another route back to California. He must have=20 seen
enouph of California because in 1828 he made = a
trip to Oregon and most of the men with him = were
killed en route by indians. The Hudsons Bay=20 Company
helped him out by protecting him and his remaining=20
men and also recovering there stolen = furs.
The Yellowstone Park country is where the partners=20 spend
the winter of 1829. They travel deep into Blackfoot=20 country
and trap the Snake River, travel over the Wind River = Range,
spend time at the foot of the magnificent Tetons and = adjacent
territories, and up the Yellowstone to the=20 headwaters.
Jackson's Hole got its name on this trip. =
In 1830 Jedidiah decided to get out of the fur = business,even=20
though they had been very succesful trapping virgin=20
territory,and made fatefull plans to enter the Santa = Fe
trade. He was killed on the Cimmaron Crossing in=20 1831.
Smith was one of those men that had to "see = what was=20
over the next hill". He will always be at the = top of my=20 list
of all time greatest mountain men.
   
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =    =20 from the northwoods,
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =          =20 Tony
- ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE39B3.3D528520-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:37:43 -0500 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder Lanney... You got trees in Texas??? D "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accouterments http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 - -----Original Message----- From: Lanney Ratcliff To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 7:36 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder Capt. Cottonwood works like a big dog!! Pine, too, but not nearly as good. Lanney Ratcliff - -----Original Message----- From: Roger Lahti To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 3:44 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder >Allen, > >Did you see my post on what I use for natural char material? I have some >6" birch logs that have stood out back long enough that the wood inside >has finally turned to punk, in that it will fall out of the tub formed >by the unrotted bark quit easily. That is the kind of punk wood that I >have found to work. I have tried conifer punk wood and it doesn't seem >to do the job. Have you tried aspen or alder? Maybe even cottonwood. I >would be glad to send you some birch punk to try if you like. I doubt I >have enough to be a serious supplier. Let me know. I remain...... > >YMOS >Capt. Lahti' > >Allen Chronister wrote: > >> I join with others who would buy or trade or >> whatever to get some punk, > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:53:15 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder Yeah, we got a few trees here. I collected a little tree fungus at my = brother's house about 10 days ago. Funny about coincidences, huh? It = was a different looking fungus from what I am used to. I may split it = with Allan and Jon and see if anybody can catch a spark with it. I have = better luck with charred wood. Lanney - -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Miles To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 8:37 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder >Lanney... > You got trees in Texas??? >D > > > "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" > DOUBLE EDGE FORGE > Period Knives & Iron Accouterments > http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 >-----Original Message----- >From: Lanney Ratcliff >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 7:36 PM >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder > > >Capt. >Cottonwood works like a big dog!! Pine, too, but not nearly as good. >Lanney Ratcliff >-----Original Message----- >From: Roger Lahti >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 3:44 PM >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder > > >>Allen, >> >>Did you see my post on what I use for natural char material? I have = some >>6" birch logs that have stood out back long enough that the wood = inside >>has finally turned to punk, in that it will fall out of the tub formed >>by the unrotted bark quit easily. That is the kind of punk wood that I >>have found to work. I have tried conifer punk wood and it doesn't seem >>to do the job. Have you tried aspen or alder? Maybe even cottonwood. I >>would be glad to send you some birch punk to try if you like. I doubt = I >>have enough to be a serious supplier. Let me know. I remain...... >> >>YMOS >>Capt. Lahti' >> >>Allen Chronister wrote: >> >>> I join with others who would buy or trade or >>> whatever to get some punk, >> >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:17:40 -0800 (PST) From: zaslow Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder A couple of months ago, Ron Price (Wet Possum) and I were out on the ground and we came across some old dried and rotted Yucca. It worked great as char. So good in fact that once it caught a spark, it wouldn't go out at all (this was the piece we tried out as an experiment.) We took a whole bunch back with us even though we had to carry it out about 3 1/2 miles. Best Regards, Jerry (Meriwether) Zaslow #1488 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:22:35 EST From: RR1LA@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder amen jerry. dried yucca is, as the say, THE BOMB. i sparked a piece of lightly charred dried yucca, then THOUGHT i had put it out and set it down. came back an hour later and found that i had left a rather serious burn on my workbench. the results could have been disastrous to say the least. you'd have to dunk that stuff in water to get it out. also, its VERY lightweight and holds together well during storage/travel. yhs, 'Barney Fife' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:40:34 EST From: Casapy123@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Birthday Don't know if everyone is aware of the Jedediah Smith Society or not. They have coordinated birthday parties to commemorate this 200th anniversary of Smith's B.day. Had one here. Held it at the cabin built by Jim Beckwourth in 1854. All together 177 students and adults attended. Great success. Spokan is having one tonight. Stockton is having a big shindig on Saturday. The Jedediah Smith society can be found at www.uop.edu/organizations/JSS96.html They are also sponsoring a fur trade symposium this April called "Jedediah Smith and the Fur Trade Era." Many of Smith's relatives will be there for the birthday celebration as well as the research papers. David E. Weber (Author of Taos trappers and The Californios Versus Jedediah SMith) is the keynote speaker. Membership in the society starts at $10.00 per year and includes a subscription to their newsletter, "The Castor Canadensis." Anyone wanting more information can visit their website or contact me off-list and I'll send information, brochure, etc. Jim Hardee, AMM#1676 P.O. Box 1228 Quincy, CA 95971 (530)283-4566 (H) (530)283-3330 (W) (530)283-5171 FAX Casapy123@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:09:20 EST From: EmmaPeel2@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Belated birthdays, and an archaeology question It is all well and good to salute old Jeb, but Kit Carson's b-day was in late December (24th ?) and I neglected to wish him Happy Returns, which I do now. BTW, does anyone know of a good book about Bent's Fort OTHER than the David Lavender book? Is it possible to get the results of their archaeological excavations? Come to think of it, does anyone know where I can find resources on archaeological digs on fur trade sites? I'm certain many universities have done such excavations, I just don't know if their results were published. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 02:49:44 EST From: tedhart@juno.com (Ted A Hart) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder Hell yes we have trees in Texas! :) I live in Austin and there are alot of cottonwoods, mesquite, oaks around here...you'll even find willow trees near creeks and the like. Out west Texas you'll run into what's more typically considered Texas...the LLano Estacado..the Staked Plains...more western...you'll run into Marfa (where the so-called lights float) where it's more like a desert with mountains...almost like Santa Fe...out in East Texas it's alot of hills and pine trees with an occassional oak tree...down south Texas it's more mesquite and scrubby trees...alot more shorter than it is else where. We have everything that USA has to offer although I think we need to work on our mountains :) Need to make 'em bigger! Ted ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 03:24:40 -0600 From: Jeff Powers Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder >Allen, >Did you see my post on what I use for natural char material? I have >some 6" birch logs that have stood out back long enough that the >wood inside has finally turned to punk, in that it will fall out of >the tub formed by the unrotted bark quit easily. That is the kind >of punk wood that I have found to work. I have tried conifer punk >wood and it doesn't seem to do the job. Have you tried aspen or >alder? Maybe even cottonwood. I would be glad to send you some >birch punk to try if you like. I doubt I have enough to be a >serious supplier. Let me know. I remain...... >YMOS >Capt. Lahti' AhHa Capt. birch punk for char and birck bark for tinder? Works for me,except the humidity around here leaves me with little choice but to char only what I need for whatever period of time I plan on going. Too bad I have to go 250 miles for a big enough stand of birch to get my goodies! BTW, we must have answered the question about rocks at the same time! Jeff Powers,Rogue & Ne'er do Well Is Disney World a people trap operated by a mouse? Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Test Drive ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:13:01 EST From: CTOAKES@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Preserving eggs In a message dated 99-01-06 03:34:00 EST, you write: << This also works with fresh eggs. Remember about a year ago when I was trying to document pickled eggs? This method came to light then, & it works. Of course, the fresher the eggs, the better when you "seal" 'em up. I checked with Dad, & he remembered doing this & said eggs would keep several months this way. >> Be careful, today almost all commercial eggs carry a bacteria that can be deadly in young kids, the sick and the elderly. I can not remember the name of the bacteria, sorry. If the eggs are keep cold, below 40 degree F, the bacteria is kept down at save levels but if you store the eggs above 40 degrees this bacteria grows real fast and can cause anything from vomiting to the trotts to death. My wife and daughter suffered at one camp when we ordered eggs from the camp store and they arrived and were not kept refrigerated for several hours well waiting to be picked up. We made the mistake of serving them sunny side up and got sick. With todays eggs if stored them at warm temps cook them SOLID/OVER HARD or Hard Boiled. Don't need anyone sick and tieing up the outhouses all day and night. Your Humble Servant C.T. Oakes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:12:59 EST From: CTOAKES@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Soap Stone In a message dated 99-01-05 11:18:51 EST, you write: << i'm not sure this memory is truthful. is soap stone a good rock to seek out to use as a heater rock >> Soap stone is excellent. We keep a pile of them on the wood stove and everynight in the winter our kids wrap one up in a towel and put it at the foot of the bed to warm the bed and their feet. We do the same thing at reinactments, we hang them or set them near the fire then put them (wrapped in muslin bags) in the kids bed rolls. They usually stay warm right thru the night even on 10 degree nights. Sure makes the kids sleep better. On cold nights I do what Joe does snuggle up to my wife. <> I always feel sorry for single guys on cold nights. I have purchased almost all of our soap stones at flea markets and yard sales. Usually not to expensive. The thing about soap stone is you are now carring more weight in you camp setup. But if you are not carring your camp on your back this may not be a problem. Your Humble Servant C.T. Oakes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:16:58 EST From: TetonTod@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Yucca for tinder Anyone offering up Yucca for sale or trade? Sounds like I gotta try the stuff! Todd Glover ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:18:51 -0600 From: Jim Lindberg Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder I usually call them shelf mushrooms and we find them on birch treess alot. I have taken them and sliced them and chared them as I do cloth. Once they catch a spark they do not go out (my picnic table has a scar as proof). I do recall reading once, I think it was from a Scandinavian source on using these after they were boiled in the ash of the birch tree. I was always going to try that, but haven't. Even though I have a birch log on the porch to be burned. After reading Allen Chronister definition, maybe I will try it, probably wait till spring, hard to do this stuff when it's -20. Jim - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ /`-_ Jim Lindberg |Les Voyageurs du Val du Chippewa { . }/ 724 East Grand Avenue |Flambeau Rivere Voyageurs \ / Chippewa Falls, WI 54729 USA |Sweete water and light laughter, |___| http://reality.sgi.com/jal/ |Until we next meete. Go Gentle. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:43:16 -0800 From: Frank Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder Hummm, I'll bet them cottonwoods are bigger than a California redwood! Bein' Texas an' all... :o) Medicine Bear Ted A Hart wrote: > Hell yes we have trees in Texas! :) I live in Austin and there are alot > of cottonwoods, mesquite, oaks around here...you'll even find willow > trees near creeks and the like. Out west Texas you'll run into what's > more typically considered Texas...the LLano Estacado..the Staked > Plains...more western...you'll run into Marfa (where the so-called lights > float) where it's more like a desert with mountains...almost like Santa > Fe...out in East Texas it's alot of hills and pine trees with an > occassional oak tree...down south Texas it's more mesquite and scrubby > trees...alot more shorter than it is else where. We have everything that > USA has to offer although I think we need to work on our mountains :) > Need to make 'em bigger! > > Ted > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:22:25 -0500 From: "John L. Allen" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Belated birthdays, and an archaeology question Try contacting Kenneth Karsmiszki at the Museum of the Rockies, Montana State University, Bozeman, MT. He probably knows more about the subject than nearly anyone. John Dr. John L. Allen 21 Thomas Drive Storrs, CT 06268 860/487-1346 jlallen@snet.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 2:09 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Belated birthdays, and an archaeology question >It is all well and good to salute old Jeb, but Kit Carson's b-day was in late >December >(24th ?) and I neglected to wish him Happy Returns, which I do now. > >BTW, does anyone know of a good book about Bent's Fort OTHER than the David >Lavender book? Is it possible to get the results of their archaeological >excavations? > >Come to think of it, does anyone know where I can find resources on >archaeological digs on fur trade sites? I'm certain many universities have >done such excavations, I just don't know if their results were published. >Thanks! > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:23:31 -0700 From: rpratt@ecn.net.au (Rod Pratt) Subject: MtMan-List: Japanning Greetings, I was informed that a gentleman, John Kramer who subscribes to your list, recently discussed the process of making japanning lacquer. I am very interested in this process (not just for tin but also for fabric & leather). Could anyone (preferably John Kramer himself) assist me with this query, any help would be most welcome. Cheers, Rod "What's the World's Greatest Lie?", the boy asked completely surprised. "It's this", replied the Alchemist, "that at a certain point in our lives we lose control of what's happening to us and our lives become controlled by fate. That's the World's Greatest Lie". Paulo Coelho, _The Alchemist_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:26:15 -0800 From: Roger Lahti Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Yucca for tinder Todd, Got yucca too, not a lot but some. I remain..... YMOS Capt. Lahti' TetonTod@aol.com wrote: > Anyone offering up Yucca for sale or trade? Sounds like I gotta try the stuff! > > Todd Glover ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:09:04 -0800 From: Roger Lahti Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinder Ted, Ted A Hart wrote: > Hell yes we have trees in Texas! :) Gee Ted, they was just trying to yank your rebosa! Heck, we know you got trees in Texas, got deer too. Bout the size of a big northern dog, from what I hear. My brother-in-law, a displaced Texan, has been up here for several years but wouldn't go hunting. Said there wasn't no sense since the grass was so tall, a guy would never be able to see anything to shoot at. He was used to shooting Texas deer in Texas forests. Finally talked him into going this past October and he came back with a white tail buck that he was sure would go well over 200 lb and with a rack that was 25" wide and 6 by 7 for points. Told him it was a nice little buck but he should have waited for a better one. Them trees you got down there are used up here for hedge rows so we know you got em. You need to be a little less defensive. I remain..... YMOS Capt. Lahti' ------------------------------ Date: 07 Jan 99 18:43:07 -0700 From: Phyllis and Don Keas Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Belated birthdays, and an archaeology question There is a good book on the digs conducted at Bent's Fort, but I can't remember the name of it. It is in the library and I will try ro remember and get the name for you. Really interesting stuff. Showed all kinds of things, seperatiing the different areas and years of the Fort. How about hard rubber buttons from the trade era? DON AND PHYLLIS KEAS ---LIving History Consultants EmmaPeel2 wrote: >It is all well and good to salute old Jeb, but Kit Carson's b-day was in late >December >(24th ?) and I neglected to wish him Happy Returns, which I do now. > >BTW, does anyone know of a good book about Bent's Fort OTHER than the David >Lavender book? Is it possible to get the results of their archaeological >excavations? > >Come to think of it, does anyone know where I can find resources on >archaeological digs on fur trade sites? I'm certain many universities have >done such excavations, I just don't know if their results were published. >Thanks! > > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > >Received: from lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7] by mail.market1.com with ESMTP > (SMTPD32-4.03) id AE3E47A0136; Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:11:58 MDT >Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1) > id 0zy9aC-0003uK-00 > for hist_text-goout@lists.xmission.com; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:10:16 -0700 >Received: from [198.81.17.3] (helo=imo13.mx.aol.com) > by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) > id 0zy9aA-0003t1-00 > for hist_text@lists.xmission.com; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:10:14 -0700 >Received: from EmmaPeel2@aol.com > by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 0AKIa05309 > for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:09:20 -0500 (EST) >From: EmmaPeel2@aol.com >Message-ID: <48de2a07.36945da0@aol.com> >Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:09:20 EST >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Subject: MtMan-List: Belated birthdays, and an archaeology question >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 76 >Sender: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >X-UIDL: 915555012 >Status: U > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 21:06:02 EST From: RR1LA@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: archaeology question this web site is extremely interesting and may prove to be of some value Fur Trade Bibliography ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:05:42 -0700 From: "Scott Singer - \"Spinner\"" Subject: MtMan-List: Keeping tobacco fresh Anyone have comments or ideas on how to keep pipe tobacco fresh while out at a rendezvous or trek? Seems like it drys out so fast in this dry western mountain air if I put it in a cloth or leather drawstring pouch, and a tin container is awkward or heavy and doesn't work much better. - ------------------------------------------------------------ - - Scott Singer, aka "Spinner" WWW Rendezvous Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/~wwwrendezvous Territorial Dispatch/National Association of Buckskinners Web Site http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/4833 - ------------------------------------------------------------ - --- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:14:20 -0700 From: "Lee Cardon" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Keeping tobacco fresh How about an oil cloth pouch and a small wedge of apple? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:25:26 -0700 From: "Barry Conner" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Keeping tobacco fresh Scott, A slice of apple kept in pouch with tobacco works very nicely. Buck - -----Original Message----- From: Scott Singer - "Spinner" To: AMM Mailing List Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 8:04 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Keeping tobacco fresh >Anyone have comments or ideas on how to keep pipe tobacco >fresh while out at a rendezvous or trek? Seems like it drys >out so fast in this dry western mountain air if I put it in >a cloth or leather drawstring pouch, and a tin container is >awkward or heavy and doesn't work much better. > >------------------------------------------------------------ >- >Scott Singer, aka "Spinner" >WWW Rendezvous Web Site: > http://www.geocities.com/~wwwrendezvous >Territorial Dispatch/National Association of Buckskinners >Web Site > http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/4833 >------------------------------------------------------------ >--- > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:55:41 -0800 From: Frank Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Keeping tobacco fresh I see a slice of apple has already been suggested. Probably the best. I've also used a date or orange peel. A tin container isn't heavy, can be had in an amazing choice of sizes and like keeping char dry, you can bee's wax the rim to keep moisture (in this case) in. Keep a large one at camp and fill a small one from it! Medicine Bear Scott Singer - \"Spinner\" wrote: > Anyone have comments or ideas on how to keep pipe tobacco > fresh while out at a rendezvous or trek? Seems like it drys > out so fast in this dry western mountain air if I put it in > a cloth or leather drawstring pouch, and a tin container is > awkward or heavy and doesn't work much better. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > - > Scott Singer, aka "Spinner" > WWW Rendezvous Web Site: > http://www.geocities.com/~wwwrendezvous > Territorial Dispatch/National Association of Buckskinners > Web Site > http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/4833 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:58:53 -0800 (PST) From: DJLINDSEY@webtv.net (JEAN LINDSEY) Subject: MtMan-List: Pipe smoke All this talk of pipe smoke, what we use is Kinnikinnick or Bear berry, it grows in pine/fur forests, along the ground, most good plant books will have a picture and description of it. We like to pick it at dawn, making sure to leave a gift for the plants. We then dry it out good, and crumble up the leaves, taking out any stems or extra things not part of the plant. After the leaves are ground up good, we add some bear grease to it, just enough to make the leaf pieces shinny. Close it up in a small tin, and you have good pipe smoke. The bear grease helps to keep it lit, and moist. And it is a cool, and not to bitey smoke. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:58:10 -0700 From: "Bob & Marylou Jones" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Belated birthdays, and an archaeology question Emma, I think the book you are looking for is _Bent's Old Fort, An Archeological Study_ by Jackson W. Moore, Jr. Regards, Bob Jones >BTW, does anyone know of a good book about Bent's Fort OTHER than the David >Lavender book? Is it possible to get the results of their archaeological >excavations? > > ------------------------------ Date: 07 Jan 99 22:04:13 -0700 From: Phyllis and Don Keas Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Keeping tobacco fresh put a little piece of apple in it. DON AND PHYLLIS KEAS ---LIving History Consultants Scott Singer - \"Spinner\" wrote: >Anyone have comments or ideas on how to keep pipe tobacco >fresh while out at a rendezvous or trek? Seems like it drys >out so fast in this dry western mountain air if I put it in >a cloth or leather drawstring pouch, and a tin container is >awkward or heavy and doesn't work much better. > >------------------------------------------------------------ >- >Scott Singer, aka "Spinner" >WWW Rendezvous Web Site: > http://www.geocities.com/~wwwrendezvous >Territorial Dispatch/National Association of Buckskinners >Web Site > http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/4833 >------------------------------------------------------------ >--- > > > > > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > >Received: from lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7] by mail.market1.com with ESMTP > (SMTPD32-4.03) id A5E026D012E; Thu, 07 Jan 1999 20:05:04 MDT >Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1) > id 0zySCd-0005G7-00 > for hist_text-goout@lists.xmission.com; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:03:11 -0700 >Received: from [198.60.22.22] (helo=mail.xmission.com) > by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) > id 0zySCa-0005Fq-00 > for hist_text@lists.xmission.com; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:03:08 -0700 >Received: from [209.1.224.44] (helo=geocities.com) > by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) > id 0zySCY-0000VU-00 > for hist_text@xmission.com; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:03:06 -0700 >Received: from animas (hil-qbu-ppq-vty116.as.wcom.net [206.175.97.116]) > by geocities.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA11301 > for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:03:04 -0800 (PST) >Message-ID: <004c01be3ab3$d27fcb20$7461afce@animas.frontier.net> >From: "Scott Singer - \"Spinner\"" >To: "AMM Mailing List" >Subject: MtMan-List: Keeping tobacco fresh >Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:05:42 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 >Sender: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >X-UIDL: 915555040 >Status: U > ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #213 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message. 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