From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #232 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, February 7 1999 Volume 01 : Number 232 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:40:24 -0800 From: Pat Laughlin Subject: MtMan-List: Southern California Hammerfest The second annual Ken Weaver Hammerfest and History Fair will be on March 6th and 7th at the Yucaipa. For more information see: http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/blythe/2/adobe.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:09:56 -0800 From: Roger Lahti Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:57:36 -0800 - --------------485D93195AE1357FFCD53621 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > landis wrote: > > > hey guys,I'm terry's(mt.man)brother. he said you might be > > able to help me? I'm looking for a rifle in the $500.00 > > range any info would > > help > > thanks > > adam > Adam, Just had another thought on this search. You and Terry really need to come to the Enumclau BP Gun Show Mar 13, 14. There should be some good rifles, etc. there to pick from. I will be hanging around Mike Riders Table. He sells fine Brain Tan skins and is usually in the second or middle building. I remain...... YMOS Capt. Lahti' > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear that. You have our simpathies. What did > > you have in mind? I'm sure there are lots of ideas for > > good guns in that range but you got to narrow it down > > some. Are you willing to build a kit? Style? Flint? > > Caliber? I remain.... > > > > YMOS > > Capt. lahti' > > thanks for the sympathy, i deal wity it prett good now. > .58cal lock may not matter,prefer complete > - --------------485D93195AE1357FFCD53621 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

landis wrote:
hey guys,I'm terry's(mt.man)brother. he said you might be able to help me? I'm looking for a rifle in the $500.00 range any info would help thanks adam

Adam,

Just had another thought on this search. You and Terry really need to come to the Enumclau BP Gun Show Mar 13, 14. There should be some good rifles, etc. there to pick from. I will be hanging around Mike Riders Table. He sells fine Brain Tan skins and is usually in the second or middle building. I remain......

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'

Sorry to hear that. You have our simpathies. <G> What did you have in mind? I'm sure there are lots of ideas for good guns in that range but you got to narrow it down some. Are you willing to build a kit? Style? Flint? Caliber? I remain....
YMOS
Capt. lahti'
thanks for the sympathy, i deal wity it prett good now. .58cal lock may not matter,prefer complete

- --------------485D93195AE1357FFCD53621-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:10:37 -0500 From: "Fred A. Miller" Subject: MtMan-List: You might be a buckskinner if.. You might be a buckskinner if... ...this is how you define the following computer terms: LOG ON: making the woodstove hotter. LOG OFF: Don't add no more wood. MONITOR: Keepin an eye on that wood stove. DOWNLOAD: Gettin the farwood off'n the truk. MEGA HERTZ: When yer not keerful gettin that farwood downloaded. FLOPPY DISK: Whatcha git from tryin to carry too much farwood. RAM: That thar whut splits tha farwood. HARD DRIVE: Gettin home in the winter time. PROMPT: Whut the mail ain't in the winter time. WINDOWS: Whut to shut when its cold outside. SCREEN: Whut to shut when its blak fly season. BYTE: Whut them dang flys do. CHIP: Munchies fer the TV. MICRO CHIP: Whuts left in the munchie bag. MODEM: Whatcha did to the hay fields. DOT MATRIX: Ol Dan Matrix's wife. LAP TOP: Whur the kitty sleeps. KEYBOARD: Whur ya hang the dang keys. SOFTWARE: Them dang plastik forks and knifs. MOUSE: What eats the grain in the barn. MAIN FRAME: Holds up the barn ruf. PORT: Fancy Flatlander Wine. ENTER: Northern fer c'mon in y'all. RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY: When ya caint member whut ya paid for yer new rifle when yorewife asks. - -- "Slicker 'n Willie Lube".......and that's doin some! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:58:28 -0500 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: MtMan-List: Updated Site..OFF TOPIC SELF SERVING ANNOUNCEMENT!! Hello... I updated my site today, mostly the knife page, for those of you that have written and wondered when I would get back to work.... Sorry to disturb the rest of y'all. Regards Dennis "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accouterments http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:35:16 -0800 From: "JON P TOWNS" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: mtn.men, they never got lost, just mighty confuse d for a while I mentioned the other day about Alexander Ross His native guide asked why he carried the compass Ross said it was like having two guides, the native said why do you need two guides Ross said pointing to his double barreled shot gun it is like having two barrels on my gun, the native was satisfied with that. - ---------- : From: Angela Gottfred : To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com : Subject: RE: MtMan-List: mtn.men, they never got lost, just mighty confuse d for a while : Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:36 AM : : Interesting question about compasses. My impression is that in the Canadian : fur trade, 1774-1821, compasses were present but not common, and probably : mostly used by "gentlemen", i.e. clerks, factors, and wintering partners : (who were usually the explorers, e.g. David Thompson, Alexander Mackenzie, : Simon Fraser, Peter Fidler). : : Here's some quotes: : 1760, Alexander Henry the Elder: "...the snow...prevented us, at times, from : discovering the land, and consequently (for compass we had none), from : pursuing, with certainty, our course." (Bain ed., p. 9) : : 1797-1798, David Thompson, Mandan villages: "...none of the Men knew the use : of the Compass, and did not like to trust it." (Thompson Narrative, 161) : (Thompson was travelling with an ex-soldier and seven voyageurs.) : : 1805, F.-A. Larocque: "Went down to the American Fort [Fort Mandan] to get : my compass put in order, the glass being broken and the needle not pointing : north....Capt. Lewis fixed my compass very well, which took him a whole day." : : I have many stories about Canadian fur traders getting lost, but I'm sure : there aren't any about Mountain Men, right guys? : : Your humble & obedient servant, : Angela Gottfred : agottfre@telusplanet.net : : ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:43:34 -0700 From: Dominique Racicot Subject: MtMan-List: Red River ox cart Hi. A friend of mine is trying to biuld one of these carts from scratch, and asked me if I could go onto the net to see if I could find out how the axles were attached to the rest of the frame. Could you please tell me or direct me to somewhere where I can see some pictures or diagrams for this? Thanks for your time. dracicot@expertcanmore.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:32:36 -0400 From: Dave Billock Subject: MtMan-List: History May I please have some info on James Beckworth traveling the Oregon Trail? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:06:05 -0800 From: "JON P TOWNS" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: mtn.men, they never got lost, just mighty confused for a while One man who worked for the Pacific Trade Co. and the NW Co. was Alexander Ross Made mention to a compass to an Indian guide going over the North Cascade Pass now in the state of Washington. All the leaders for the HBC and NW CO., did and I also don't remember being mentioned by just trappers maybe because very few could not read and write and didn't keep a journal. Later Jon T - ---------- : From: northwoods : To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com : Subject: MtMan-List: mtn.men, they never got lost, just mighty confused for a while : Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 6:51 PM : : My wife asked me yesterday,"Did the mountain men carry : compasses?". I chuckled a little at the question and then told : her what I knew about the development and early use of the : compass,then told her some of the ways one is able to navigate : without a compass,but finally had to admit that I could'nt think : of a single reference to compasses in anything i have read about : mountain men or early western exploration. : : Can anyone give me references to compasses or any tools : for navigation being used by mtn. men or early western explorers? : : ( I think I may have read something in the journals of Lewis & Clark, : but can't be certain.) : : From the northwoods, : : Tony Clark : ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:44:15 -0800 From: Dennis Fisher Subject: MtMan-List: mtn.men, they never got lost, just mighty confused for a while > "Did the mountain men carry compasses?". > > Tony Clark I found a photo of Lewis & Clark's compass at the Smithsonian and forwarded the address to Dean. It on his web page or at least a link to it. Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 22:26:55 EST From: Thmpr97@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Elk antler bows... The subject is well covered in the Three Vols of "traditional Bowyer's Bible" Ref: Bois D'arc Press, Azle, Tx....call and talk to Jim Hamm....He will refer you to Dr. Grayson..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:24:01 -0800 From: Dennis Fisher Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pins Verses Wedges?? BRUCE S. DE LIS wrote: > Are there Rifles with "Wedges" instead of Pins, Period Correct? > I no expert on this but I would reckon that the use of pins verses wedges depends on how the rifle is breached. If the rifle uses a hook breech then I would assume wedges were the preferred method of securing the barrel. This system makes the barrel easy to remove for cleaning or whatever. The wedges are easy to remove and replace. And conversely, if the rifle had a standard breech tang, it probably would not be removed as often and pins would be appropriate. The wedges normally have escutcheons around them to protect the wood and keep from enlarging the hole with repeated removal and replacement. The pin holes are not normally protected and frequent removal and replacement would tend to enlarge the holes over time. Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth. Dennis Fisher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:30:52 -0800 From: Dennis Fisher Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Seeking Advice On Rifle Builder BRUCE S. DE LIS wrote: I have catalog's from JP. GunStock of Las Vegas, TVM, and have visited the Web-sites of both Jackie Brown, G.L. Jones, Al edge, and Jim Chambers. I can personally attest to the very fine quality of Glen Jones's rifles. There may be others as good but you would have to look long and hard to find better. Dennis Fisher ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:08:13 -0800 From: terry l landis Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Seeking Advice On Rifle Builder i didn't get the original post but if you want info on tvm i just got a 58 cal Virginia from them last week. over all i am pleased, but the wood to metal fit could have been better. i haven't had time to shoot it yet. i will be happy to let you know how it does if you drop me your address off list. i should be able to work up a load this week weather permitting. YMHS, Terry L Landis ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:21:50 -0600 (CST) From: mxhbc@TTACS.TTU.EDU (Henry B. Crawford) Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Lindseed Oil >Don, [Sniperoo . . .] "you damn mess is burning the frecking kitchen >down", not one word was studdered. > >This mixture of linseed and beeswax really did a number on that kitchen, off >course the amount of water we put on that fire didn't help matters either. >Like you say be damn careful with heating in an open pot, even with a lid. >Buck Simple solution. Dig yourself a firepit and take the whole operation outside. Cheers, HBC ***************************************** Henry B. Crawford Curator of History mxhbc@ttacs.ttu.edu Museum of Texas Tech University 806/742-2442 Box 43191 FAX 742-1136 Lubbock, TX 79409-3191 WEBSITE: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum ****** Living History . . . 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