From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #354 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, August 22 1999 Volume 01 : Number 354 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Flint Edge -       MtMan-List: Snake stick/BumDarts? -       Re: MtMan-List: Snake stick/BumDarts? -       MtMan-List: Personal note to Candy -       MtMan-List: O.T.maybe Old shotgun -       MtMan-List: O.T. -       MtMan-List: O.T. Jokes -       MtMan-List: Missouri River patterns -       Re: MtMan-List: Flint Edge -       Re: MtMan-List: Missouri River patterns -       Re: MtMan-List: Missouri River patterns -       MtMan-List: Historic documents site -       Re: MtMan-List: Historic documents site -       Re: MtMan-List: Missouri River patterns -       Re: MtMan-List: Historic documents site -       MtMan-List: Ask for Information -       Re: MtMan-List: Ask for Information -       Re: MtMan-List: steel wool ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:25:21 -0500 From: James A Lindberg Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Flint Edge I don't shoot black powder but have used quartz to do "flint and steel" fire starting, so I would assume it would work for shooting. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:01:20 -0600 From: "L. A. Romsa" Subject: MtMan-List: Snake stick/BumDarts? How about it Capt. L. Could it be the major sport in Pinedale? BrokenJaw ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:01:45 +0000 From: R Lahti Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Snake stick/BumDarts? L. A. Romsa wrote: > > How about it Capt. L. > Could it be the major sport in Pinedale? > BrokenJaw Broken Jaw, Could very well be. I'm sure it is in Salem, Olymia, Seattle, and Portland since those cities are full of folks that are AR. I remain.... YMOS Capt. Lahti' In sunny Kennewick, WA. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:40:15 +0000 From: R Lahti Subject: MtMan-List: Personal note to Candy Candy, Would you contact me off list. Thankyou, I remain....... YMOS Capt. Lahti' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:14:31 -0700 (PDT) From: George Noe Subject: MtMan-List: O.T.maybe Old shotgun Hello the list ; We have a C. G. Bonehill New model 10 ga. Shotgun London made cir.1851. "Barrel" marked "not for sale".(good condition) Would like to know if anyone on the list might have an idea of value. If not, who or where can we go to get an idea? Thanks in advance George === George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > 1005 W.Donkey Ln. Marlow Ok. 73055 Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:41:27 -0700 (PDT) From: George Noe Subject: MtMan-List: O.T. === George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > 1005 W.Donkey Ln. Marlow Ok. 73055 Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:49:38 -0700 (PDT) From: George Noe Subject: MtMan-List: O.T. Jokes If the one wanting jokes will get with me off list, I have a few to send you. G.R.N gnoe39@yahoo.com (sorry about the other one, I hit the wrong spot!) === George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > 1005 W.Donkey Ln. Marlow Ok. 73055 Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:22:16 -0500 From: "Henry B. Crawford" Subject: MtMan-List: Missouri River patterns Friends, Who sells Missouri River patterns. I'm interested in the rifleman's hunting frock. I've given up on making sense out of the Eagle's View pattern. Too bad I don't have a bird cage. I still want to make a leather frock, but from a better pattern, and I know MO River are good. Where can I get them, better yet, a list of 'em? Thanks, HBC **************************************** Henry B. Crawford Box 43191 Curator of History Museum of Texas Tech University mxhbc@ttacs.ttu.edu Lubbock, TX 79409-3191 806/742-2442 FAX 742-1136 Website: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum ****** Living History . . . Because It's There ****** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:03:10 -0400 From: Tom Roberts Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Flint Edge This is florida. The only native rock around here is coquina, a lime/coral mix that turns to dust when struck. The only real rocks around these parts are imported and generate great profits at builder's supply. I plan to experiment with a small piece of quartz pilfered from my neighbor's flowerbed and also to be more in tune with what's on the ground when visiting elsewhere about the country. Tom John Kramer wrote: > Yep, obsidian can work though they don't hold well with a long taper edge, > broken shards of glass can also be made to work. I have found flint in so > many > areas of the country I find it difficult to believe there is nothing usable > anywhere. Sometimes its red, sometimes yellow, or grey, or black, or mottled, > or brown or non-descript. The question is whether it is hard enough to shave > off a little metal and cause spark. Once you start picking the stuff up there > is never a shortage again. > > Of course I call any fine grain rock that throws spark flint. After a while > you can usually tell by looking. Maybe not on a beach but somewhere not far > away there is something that will spark. Check the decorative rocks in > peoples > gardens many of them work just fine. I've picked up usable rocks from gravel > roadways, stream beds, and hillsides all over the country. > > John... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:47:26 -0400 From: "Lewis Kevin Raper" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Missouri River patterns Missouri River Patterns can be found at The K Company. They are open from Tues-Sat 10am till 6pm call them at 1-864-947-2788. they will also be at the Kings Mountain Rondy. Tell 'em Possum Hunter sent ya! "No man can truly know Christ except he follow him in life" ( Testimony of Anabaptist leader Hans Denk) ------------------------------ Date: 20 Aug 1999 06:31:37 -0700 From: concho@uswestmail.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Missouri River patterns Panther Primitives has the Missouri River patterns Henry. ___________________________________ Take care, folks D.L."Concho"Smith + Washington, MO. + "One who favors the finer things in life" ___________________________________ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:39:10 -0600 From: agottfre@telusplanet.net (Angela Gottfred) Subject: MtMan-List: Historic documents site A huge number of historic Canadian books & publications are accessible at www.canadiana.org. Kirsten Smith passed along this bookmark to me several months ago, and I've finally had a chance to check the site out thoroughly. The site has images of the original pages which can be downloaded as html files or Adobe Acrobat pdf files, and include the original illustrations (in black & white). Some books are available online in several different editions, and you can search the publications by author, subject, title, and publisher. You can also search by a word or phrase in the database which includes the full text of all the books. For example, you could search for the term 'Blackfoot Indian' in every single book with just one search. The result will give you the full info on every book which contains the searched term, and tell you which pages of that book have that term. Awesome! Great for searching for people, fur posts, etc. Since the site is huge, you need a good idea of what you're looking for. Here are just a few of the books that are online which might be of interest to list members (I've paraphrased the titles): Franchere, Gabriel. _Narrative_ (of his experiences at Astoria and his voyage there & back) Heriot, George. _Travels through the Canadas..._ (c.1810) Lambert, John. _Travels through Canada & the U.S., 1806-1808_ Mackenzie, Alexander. _Voyages to the Arctic Ocean in 1789 and the Pacific Ocean in 1793..._ Ross, Alexander. _Fur Hunters of the Far West_ Ross, Alexander. _Adventures on the Columbia River_ Vancouver, George. _A Voyage of Discovery...1790-1795_ Your humble & obedient servant, Angela Gottfred agottfre@telusplanet.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:30:28 -0500 From: "northwoods" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Historic documents site That is awesome! It's amazing that we can search through this much info. in minutes when not to long ago a person could have spent the better part of a lifetime doing it. Thanks, Tony Clark - -----Original Message----- From: Angela Gottfred To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 11:40 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Historic documents site >A huge number of historic Canadian books & publications are accessible at >www.canadiana.org. Kirsten Smith passed along this bookmark to me several >months ago, and I've finally had a chance to check the site out thoroughly. >The site has images of the original pages which can be downloaded as html >files or Adobe Acrobat pdf files, and include the original illustrations (in >black & white). Some books are available online in several different >editions, and you can search the publications by author, subject, title, and >publisher. You can also search by a word or phrase in the database which >includes the full text of all the books. For example, you could search for >the term 'Blackfoot Indian' in every single book with just one search. The >result will give you the full info on every book which contains the searched >term, and tell you which pages of that book have that term. Awesome! Great >for searching for people, fur posts, etc. > >Since the site is huge, you need a good idea of what you're looking for. >Here are just a few of the books that are online which might be of interest >to list members (I've paraphrased the titles): > >Franchere, Gabriel. _Narrative_ (of his experiences at Astoria and his >voyage there & back) >Heriot, George. _Travels through the Canadas..._ (c.1810) >Lambert, John. _Travels through Canada & the U.S., 1806-1808_ >Mackenzie, Alexander. _Voyages to the Arctic Ocean in 1789 and the Pacific >Ocean in 1793..._ >Ross, Alexander. _Fur Hunters of the Far West_ >Ross, Alexander. _Adventures on the Columbia River_ >Vancouver, George. _A Voyage of Discovery...1790-1795_ > >Your humble & obedient servant, >Angela Gottfred >agottfre@telusplanet.net > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:55:26 -0600 From: "Ron Chamberlain" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Missouri River patterns Mt State Muzzleloading has Missouri River Patterns also http://www.mtnstatemuzzleloading.com/ Ron cstmzd@ida.net www.ida.net/users/cstmzd/trappers.html "What part of: 'Thou Shalt not...' didn't you understand"? GOD ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:09:46 -0500 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Historic documents site Angela, Once more you have contributed a nugget of pure gold. Thanks for = sharing your storehouse of information. I hope to meet you one = day.....as do most of us on the list. cordially Lanney Ratcliff - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Angela Gottfred To: Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 11:39 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Historic documents site > A huge number of historic Canadian books & publications are accessible = at=20 > www.canadiana.org. Kirsten Smith passed along this bookmark to me = several=20 > months ago, and I've finally had a chance to check the site out = thoroughly.=20 > The site has images of the original pages which can be downloaded as = html=20 > files or Adobe Acrobat pdf files, and include the original = illustrations (in=20 > black & white). Some books are available online in several different=20 > editions, and you can search the publications by author, subject, = title, and=20 > publisher. You can also search by a word or phrase in the database = which=20 > includes the full text of all the books. For example, you could search = for=20 > the term 'Blackfoot Indian' in every single book with just one search. = The=20 > result will give you the full info on every book which contains the = searched=20 > term, and tell you which pages of that book have that term. Awesome! = Great=20 > for searching for people, fur posts, etc. >=20 > Since the site is huge, you need a good idea of what you're looking = for.=20 > Here are just a few of the books that are online which might be of = interest=20 > to list members (I've paraphrased the titles): >=20 > Franchere, Gabriel. _Narrative_ (of his experiences at Astoria and his = > voyage there & back) > Heriot, George. _Travels through the Canadas..._ (c.1810) > Lambert, John. _Travels through Canada & the U.S., 1806-1808_ > Mackenzie, Alexander. _Voyages to the Arctic Ocean in 1789 and the = Pacific=20 > Ocean in 1793..._ > Ross, Alexander. _Fur Hunters of the Far West_ > Ross, Alexander. _Adventures on the Columbia River_ > Vancouver, George. _A Voyage of Discovery...1790-1795_=20 >=20 > Your humble & obedient servant, > Angela Gottfred > agottfre@telusplanet.net >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:19:33 +0200 From: develop.helpers@arosnet.se (develop.helpers@arosnet.se) Subject: MtMan-List: Ask for Information Hallo! Can you put this in the newsletter, please? : Hallo, Mountainmen and others! We (still mostly people from Sweden) are now starting a project that will try to create a computer program about the life in USA from around 1830-1900 (mostly West of Mississipi) including the Great Immigration/Move West. 1. Are you interrested in participate in this? (I'm mostly asking for information, but we can also need more skilled programmers (C++ and Assembler) and perhaps drawings plus translations to different languages.) 2. We are NOT looking for stories but we need a lot information about allmost any FIGURES from that period for instance: Tradeprices in different parts of USA at that time (both furs, supply, weapons, horses...=everything that common pioneers needed). (Including where and when.) What was the maximum reach for different weapons (that was a point to shoot at)? Transportation: Cargo transports and "ticket" prices for travelling with dilligence, boat, train. Where and when excists transportation for above? Population in different counties different years. Approx figures is better than none... 3. We also need some drawings /photos of things like houses. Maps can also be interresting (but we have some allready). 4. (Are you interrested in getting information about the program when it will be ready (/or "if" - the goal is a very complex program...) We hope we will be ready in autumn 2000.)? Thanks! /Thomas Lundquist ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:45:14 -0700 From: "Munroe Crutchley" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ask for Information > 4. (Are you interrested in getting information about the program when it > will be ready (/or "if" - the goal is a very complex program...) We hope we > will be ready in autumn 2000.)? What will the program be used for? What will it do? Munroe Crutchley Grants Pass, OR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:29:31 -0500 From: "Glenn Darilek" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steel wool Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary list the first documented written use of the words 'steel wool' in 1896. Glenn Darilek Iron Burner - -----Original Message----- From: Henry B. Crawford To: ALHFAM-L@mysticseaport.org Cc: hist_text@xmission.com Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 10:23 AM Subject: MtMan-List: steel wool >Friends, >Does anyone out there know when steel wool and sandpaper were invented? > >TIA, >HBC > >**************************************** >Henry B. Crawford Box 43191 >Curator of History Museum of Texas Tech University >mxhbc@ttacs.ttu.edu Lubbock, TX 79409-3191 >806/742-2442 FAX 742-1136 > Website: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum >****** Living History . . . Because It's There ****** > > > > ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #354 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.