From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #381 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Tuesday, September 28 1999 Volume 01 : Number 381 In this issue: -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: A Survey -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Auction -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Auction -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: bacon ? (and food at rendezvous) -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Fwd: Skunked !!!!! Help Please!!! -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Hey Guy's Gals,Lady here needs help fast.E mail at bottom -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: A Survey (OT) -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: bacon ? (and food at rendezvous) -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Skunked !!!!! Help Please!!! -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Pancakes -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: A Survey (OT) -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Auction -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Auction -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: A Survey -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: A Survey -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: bacon ? (and food at rendezvous) -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Pancakes -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Skunked !!!!! Help Please!!! -牋牋牋 RE: MtMan-List: Wrought Iron Bridges ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:25:03 -0400 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Survey OOOooooo...Pablo.. Tell us what you really think, doon hold back.. And Dave, poke a stick in this den and ya might get bit. And who you calling lacking??? Dennis Paul Jones wrote: > Dave, > > Your point as to the survey is, of course, correct. > > However, until you, with such gentle modesty, pointed out the fact, and gave > us the unsolicited benefit of your insight(s), I had no idea that so many of > the individuals on this list I have grown to respect either are, or may be, > among the "many.....sorely lacking in .....reading and cognitive skills." > > Thank you for this contribution to the list. It is humbling to confront > such blatant courtesy and obvious charm. > > Sincerely, Paul W. Jones - -- "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accoutrements http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:56:21 -0500 From: "Tommy" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Auction This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01BF09E3.27493AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone know of any rondvoos this weekend in Arkansas, Texas, Missouri or = Tenn. Thank you, Tommy I make Knives http://www.nex.net/tedge pictures of grandbabies and knives can be seen at http://easyfoto.com/edward - ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01BF09E3.27493AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Anyone know of any = rondvoos this=20 weekend in Arkansas, Texas, Missouri or Tenn.

Thank you, Tommy
I = make=20 Knives
http://www.nex.net/tedge
picture= s of=20 grandbabies
and knives can be seen at
http://easyfoto.com/edward=

- ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01BF09E3.27493AC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:17:15 +0000 From: gemini Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Auction - --------------B58667955F2284362DDAB71E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tommy wrote: > Anyone know of any rondvoos this weekend in > Arkansas, Texas, Missouri or Tenn. Thank you, > Tommy > I make Knives > http://www.nex.net/tedge > pictures of grandbabies > and knives can be seen at > http://easyfoto.com/edward > > Rendezvous at Greenville, Mo, > 573-6246290, St. Charles, Mo also has > a Rendezvous, and one at Rocheport, > Missouri. > - --------------B58667955F2284362DDAB71E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Tommy wrote:

Anyone know of any rondvoos this weekend in Arkansas, Texas, Missouri or Tenn. Thank you, Tommy
I make Knives
http://www.nex.net/tedge
pictures of grandbabies
and knives can be seen at
http://easyfoto.com/edward
Rendezvous at Greenville, Mo, 573-6246290, St. Charles, Mo also has a Rendezvous, and one at Rocheport, Missouri.

- --------------B58667955F2284362DDAB71E-- ------------------------------ Date: 28 Sep 1999 17:35:54 -0700 From: Buck Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bacon ? (and food at rendezvous) On Tue, 28 September 1999, R Lahti wrote: > > turtle@uswestmail.net wrote: > > > HAVE HAD THE SAME DISCUSSION WITH THE MAN, HE GOT US TO USING ONE POT FOR EVERYTHING, COOKING, WASHING, DRINKING, ETC. - MAKES LIFE MUCH EASIER AND LESS EQPTMT TO LOOK AFTER. BUCK YOU HAVE CARRIED THAT "FRENCH" COPPER POT FOR YEARS;BUCK WOULD TELL THE CANOE BOYS THAT YOU ONLY NEED ONE POT TO: > > "EAT OUT OF IT" - > > "DRINK OUT OF IT" - > > "WASH YOURSELF AND YOUR CLOTHES OUT OF IT" - > > AND IT WORKS AS I NOW DO THE SAME. > > ---------------------------------- > > Turtle, > > Simple question. How big is that copper pot. Height, width? For one > person? I remain..... > > YMOS > Capt. Lahti' ____________________________ Hey Cap, I sold him the brass - tin linned pot made by GBW, so if it's OK I'll answer your question. Bottom - 5" in dia. Top - 5-3/4" w/a 1/4" rolled edge. Depth - 3-1/2" bottom to top of rolled edge. Iron hand forged bail, riveted ears for bail. Weight - 20.4 oz. I use a tin cover w/a tab loop ring for removal, Turtle does not use a lid, last time out with him he used a small flat rock. Being brass they seem to heat at a fast rate and do hold the heat for a period (better than tin). You have enough room to feed 3-4 men along with "bannock' bread filler. Hope this answers your question, have Turtle's butt busy doing some work on new catalog. Later, Buck Conner AMM Jim Baker Party Colorado Aux Ailments de Pays! _____________________________ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:44:36 EDT From: RangerSF5@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Fwd: Skunked !!!!! Help Please!!! - --part1_dc6e0d88.2522baf4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone help this woman out? I guess my first post didn't make it. I never had to deal with a skunk. Bob Bordentown,NJ - --part1_dc6e0d88.2522baf4_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.33]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:03:11 -0400 Received: from lbmail2.listbot.com (lbmail2.listbot.com [204.71.191.24]) by rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (v61.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:43:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 21561 invoked by uid 108); 28 Sep 1999 21:43:03 -0000 Mailing-List: ListBot mailing list contact survivalist-help@listbot.com Delivered-To: mailing list survivalist@listbot.com Reply-To: wildernesselite Received: (qmail 29247 invoked from network); 28 Sep 1999 21:42:59 -0000 Received: from mw3.texas.net (206.127.30.13) by lb4.listbot.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 1999 21:42:59 -0000 Received: from texas.net (tcnet03-047.sat.texas.net [209.99.118.173]) by mw3.texas.net (2.4/2.4) with ESMTP id QAA07846 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:43:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37F144CC.EFC98B74@texas.net> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:44:31 -0600 From: david & karen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "survivalist@listbot.com" Subject: Skunked !!!!! Help Please!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wildernesselite - http://www.angelfire.com/nj/IamSF5/index.html My daughter and her family just moved into an older home about a quarter of a mile from a creek. It is a heavily populated neighborhood. About three AM they awoke to a horrible smell and their dog was rubbing himself all over the floor and furniture. They think that a skunk must have come through the doggie door and sprayed the dog. I went to help clean up and air out the house and it is indeed horrible. There appeared to be a greasy substance covering about a four foot section of the tile floor and yellow spots on the carpet. Even food inside the refrigerator and ice from the freezer stink. Insurance does not cover varmits. I have several questions that some of you are hopefully able to help with. Are there any other animals besides skunks that could do this? There are no holes around the fence line. Can skunks climb? One neighbor insisted that they can not. What type of nest or dwelling do skunks have? Where would I look for him to catch him? After I catch the skunk,how do I keep him from spraying me? I worry about rabies since I have three young grandchildren. Isn't it odd for a wild animal to come to an area with so many people? How do we clean my daughters carpets,clothes,furniture, and get rid of that smell? Is there anything to discourage this skunk and the possum that scratches around on their roof all night? My husband and I would just shoot the poor things if they were bothering us on our property,but we do not live in the city. I hope that someone can suggest some solutions. The smell is overpowering.------Karen Kerr ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to survivalist-unsubscribe@listbot.com MSN Messenger Service lets you stay in touch instantly with your family & friends - Visit http://messenger.msn.com - --part1_dc6e0d88.2522baf4_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:48:23 -0000 From: "Glenn Darilek" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hey Guy's Gals,Lady here needs help fast.E mail at bottom Probably a skunk. Wanted a free meal out of the doggie bowl and the dog wasn't going to be a gracious dinner host. (Here begins my essay on badger skinning as a slight diversion) Not everyone knows that badger also have powerful musk glands. I ran one over on a bridge in South Texas once and decided I wanted the prime pelt to give to Thunder Mountain, another buckskinner. I smelled the acrid musk right away, but resolved to barricade the smell by sealing the corpse in a garbage bag. That measure was insufficient, so I sealed that bag in another garbage bag - and drove at unabated speed with the windows up. Even I knew not to take the hide off at the house, so I stopped on the side of a deserted road and sent the wife to the house for the skinnin' knife. I skinned that creature and repeated the double bag procedure for the green hide. Plopped that double sealed coffin into the freezer to inert the smell. My nose glands must have been numbed by that time as the wife meticulously stayed in the exact opposite recesses of the house. So I scrubbed my hands like a surgeon, and applied liberal doses of some out-of- fashion cologne. The next morning, the wife continued to distance herself, so I repeated the surgeon scrub and abolutions of the Brut cologne. I had to go to work, but I had a desk job, and when anyone came in the office, I kept my hands remotely tucked under the desk. Nevertheless, I got some very strange looks that day and everyone concluded their business with haste. My friend Thunder Mountain was gracious in accepting the hide, but I fear his wife wasn't nearly as enthusiastic. A few months later, on my way home from work, I glanced to the side of the road to see a road-kill badger. After a precipitous U-turn, I determined that the remains were indeed recent, probably not more than a few hours deceased. Well one badger hide is scant supply to complete the smallest project, so I determined to collect another peeyew plew. Only this time, I resolved that the benefactor of this leathern bounty should share in the skinning duties. So I called Thunder Mountain and asked him to meet me at the same spot on the deserted road - the skinnin' field. I got the necessary supplies and when he arrived, I was setting on the "back of the wagon" with a full bottle of whisky and two glasses. Thunder Mountain then asked "What is the whisky for?" I replied, you must not have ever skinned a badger before - Everyone who has knows you don't skin a badger if you are sober! Iron Burner - -----Original Message----- From: RangerSF5@aol.com >It is a heavily populated neighborhood. About three AM they awoke to a >horrible smell and their dog was rubbing himself all over the floor and >furniture. They think that a skunk must have come through the doggie door and >sprayed the dog. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:59:28 -0600 From: agottfre@telusplanet.net (Angela Gottfred) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Survey (OT) Caught! Your Honour, I plead guilty with an explanation. I DID read the instructions, but I decided to ignore them. You see, on another list that I belong to, every six months or so someone sends out a questionnaire similar to Matt's, and it seems that most people enjoy reading the answers & learning a little more about each other. (Of course, you folks probably noticed that I didn't post my answers to the questions about age, race, income, etc. That's "too much information"!) But if Dean Rudy or list members feel this isn't an appropriate topic for the Mtn-Man list, I apologize sincerely for the inconvenience. Your very humble & most obedient servant, Angela Gottfred agottfre@telusplanet.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:10:42 -0400 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bacon ? (and food at rendezvous) Gots one just like it, Small English trade kettle... Wouldn't trade it for anything... And a fella can't drink 7 of 'em full of rum....Believe me.. D Buck wrote: > > ____________________________ > Hey Cap, > > I sold him the brass - tin linned pot made by GBW, so if it's OK I'll answer your question. > > Bottom - 5" in dia. > Top - 5-3/4" w/a 1/4" rolled edge. > Depth - 3-1/2" bottom to top of rolled edge. > Iron hand forged bail, riveted ears for bail. > Weight - 20.4 oz. > > I use a tin cover w/a tab loop ring for removal, Turtle does not use a lid, last time out with him he used a small flat rock. Being brass they seem to heat at a fast rate and do hold the heat for a period (better than tin). You have enough room to feed 3-4 men along with "bannock' bread filler. Hope this answers your question, have Turtle's butt busy doing some work on new catalog. > > Later, > Buck Conner > > AMM Jim Baker Party Colorado > Aux Ailments de Pays! > _____________________________ > > Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net - -- "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accoutrements http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:22:55 -0400 From: Sabella Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Skunked !!!!! Help Please!!! 1. give the dog a bath in tomato juice... 2. ammonia to wash the floor and fridge in... 3. call animal control to get rid of the wild things 4.... you sure it is not something dead and not a skunk.... you live near a river. Here in Florida we have fish hawks that drop dead things on the yard from time to time...dogs just love to roll in really dead things...I mean the smellier the better... and btw....Febreeze does work to get the nasty off the couch, chair and rugs.... try bicarb of soda in the fridge after you gave it a good washout...and ditch the food inside... and lock the dogs in at night. RangerSF5@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone help this woman out? > I guess my first post didn't make it. > I never had to deal with a skunk. > Bob > Bordentown,NJ > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Skunked !!!!! Help Please!!! > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:44:31 -0600 > From: david & karen > Reply-To: wildernesselite > To: "survivalist@listbot.com" > > wildernesselite - http://www.angelfire.com/nj/IamSF5/index.html > > My daughter and her family just moved into an older home about a quarter of a > mile from a creek. > It is a heavily populated neighborhood. About three AM they awoke to a > horrible smell and their dog was rubbing himself all over the floor and > furniture. They think that a skunk must have come through the doggie door and > sprayed the dog. I went to help clean up and air out the house and it is > indeed horrible. There appeared to be a greasy substance covering about a four > foot section of the tile floor and yellow spots on the carpet. Even food > inside the refrigerator and ice from the freezer stink. Insurance does not > cover varmits. I have several questions that some of you are hopefully able to > help with. Are there any other animals besides skunks that could do this? > There are no holes around the fence line. Can skunks climb? One neighbor > insisted that they can not. What type of nest or dwelling do skunks have? > Where would I look for him to catch him? After I catch the skunk,how do I keep > him from spraying me? I worry about rabies since I have three young > grandchildren. Isn't it odd for a wild animal to come to an area with so many > people? How do we clean my daughters carpets,clothes,furniture, and get rid of > that smell? Is there anything to discourage this skunk and the possum that > scratches around on their roof all night? My husband and I would just shoot > the poor things if they were bothering us on our property,but we do not live > in the city. I hope that someone can suggest some solutions. The smell is > overpowering.------Karen Kerr > > ______________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, write to survivalist-unsubscribe@listbot.com > MSN Messenger Service lets you stay in touch instantly with > your family & friends - Visit http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:37:52 -0500 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pancakes For those who are interested, the Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary CD-ROM = is a great resource...just no end to the uses. It is available for = about $30 from Christian Technologies of Independence, Missouri or at = http://www.christiantech.com=20 They are a source of supplies for people who home school, which I am = not...I just get my tools where I find them. Lanney - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Texan To: Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 10:08 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pancakes > Hi Lanney, >=20 > How long have you had your 1828 dictionary? > Did you homeschool? Many homeschoolers > have one. >=20 > It was given to me as a present in 1985. I use it often. >=20 > Victoria >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:36:15 -0700 From: "John C. Funk, Jr." Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Survey (OT) So there, Paul !!!!!! Phooooooooops! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Angela Gottfred To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:59 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Survey (OT) > Caught! Your Honour, I plead guilty with an explanation. I DID read the > instructions, but I decided to ignore them. You see, on another list that I > belong to, every six months or so someone sends out a questionnaire similar > to Matt's, and it seems that most people enjoy reading the answers & > learning a little more about each other. (Of course, you folks probably > noticed that I didn't post my answers to the questions about age, race, > income, etc. That's "too much information"!) But if Dean Rudy or list > members feel this isn't an appropriate topic for the Mtn-Man list, I > apologize sincerely for the inconvenience. > > Your very humble & most obedient servant, > Angela Gottfred > agottfre@telusplanet.net > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:43:39 -0500 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Auction This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BF09F2.24E9C920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a club rendezvous with 70 to 80 camps expected just south of Ft = Worth on weekend after next. If interested contact me at rat@htcomp.net Lanney Ratcliff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tommy=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:56 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Auction Anyone know of any rondvoos this weekend in Arkansas, Texas, Missouri = or Tenn. =20 Thank you, Tommy I make Knives http://www.nex.net/tedge pictures of grandbabies and knives can be seen at http://easyfoto.com/edward - ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BF09F2.24E9C920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There is a club rendezvous with 70 to 80 camps expected just = south of=20 Ft Worth on weekend after next. If interested contact me at rat@htcomp.net

Lanney Ratcliff

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Tommy =

To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Tuesday, September 28, = 1999 6:56=20 PM

Subject: Re: MtMan-List: = Auction

Anyone know of any = rondvoos this=20 weekend in Arkansas, Texas, Missouri or Tenn.

Thank you, Tommy
I = make=20 Knives
http://www.nex.net/tedge
picture= s of=20 grandbabies
and knives can be seen at
http://easyfoto.com/edward=

- ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BF09F2.24E9C920-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:04:40 -0700 (PDT) From: George Noe Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Auction There Is one in north eastern Oklahoma, Woolarock, Near Bartlesvill. They tell me you have to sleep inside your lodge So you will not be steped on by the Buffaloes. Don't know any particulars.(Cain't primary, secondary, Tircerary, Guessuary document it.) - --- Ratcliff wrote: > There is a club rendezvous with 70 to 80 camps > expected just south of Ft Worth on weekend after > next. If interested contact me at rat@htcomp.net > Lanney Ratcliff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tommy > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:56 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Auction > > > Anyone know of any rondvoos this weekend in > Arkansas, Texas, Missouri or Tenn. > > Thank you, Tommy > I make Knives > http://www.nex.net/tedge > pictures of grandbabies > and knives can be seen at > http://easyfoto.com/edward > > ===== George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:25:54 +0000 From: R Lahti Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Survey Frank V. Rago wrote: > > aye captain you caught me, I failed the pay attention class. > > I did send it via email but I double clicked oooooops. Well laddie, it's your turn to catch the Capt. Just couldn't resist. I remain.... Carefully YMOS Capt. Lahti' > > Frank V. Rago > > At 02:23 PM 9/28/99 +0000, you wrote: > >Frank V. Rago wrote: > > > >Mark wrote: > > > >> >Also, if everyone could send these to my e-mail sdespain@ou.edu then > >> >they won't inundate the discussion board. > >> > > >> >Here we go!! > >> > >> Here we go > >> > >> >EDUCATION (HIGHEST DEGREE ACHIEVED): (put an X by the appropriate > >> >answer) > >> > HIGH SCHOOL > >> > TRADE OR VO-TECH > >> > COLLEGE/UNIVERSITY - X > > > >Frank, > > > >Glad to know you so well now. Looks like that college/university time > >was a waste though. Thought we were supposed to answer this off list!? > > I remain.... > > > >Susceptible to error myself, > >YMOS > >Capt. Lahti' > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:10:03 +0000 From: The Sweeneys Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Survey Boy some people get annoyed so easily.... ThisOldFox@aol.com wrote: > Gentlemen > > He asked that you send your responses back to his private email address > OFFLIST. > > For people who are supposed to be used to paying attention to the smallest > detail in your documentation, it would seem that many of you are sorely > lacking in your reading and cognitive skills. > > If you won't pay "attention" because you don't know how much you owe him, > it's five bucks. Make it payable to the AMM cause they are trying to raise > money and could use your donation. > > Dave Kanger > > "If you think education is expensive, consider the cost of ignorance!!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:03:45 +0000 From: R Lahti Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bacon ? (and food at rendezvous) Buck wrote: You have enough room to feed 3-4 men along with "bannock' bread filler. Hope this answers your question, have Turtle's butt busy doing some work on new catalog. Buck, Thanks. That was what I was looking for. I guess I was curious as to how big or little a pot you felt comfortable carrying. I carry two pots made of copper that nest. Ones I made myself. Small one is about 4.5" by 4.5" and the big one is about 5.5" by 5.5". Both have lids with lifting rings and both have bails attached with large copper rivets. The small one cooks my gruel and the big one makes safe water or tea or coffee or more cornmeal mush than any 5 guys can eat. But always looking for others ideas and what works for them. Thanks again, I remain... YMOS Capt. Lahti' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:57:07 EDT From: Casapy123@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pancakes Laura, In your novel, Russell might not have used the term "Bossloper," but it would not have been because it was a modern term. It would have been more likely because it was an outdated term. The word derives from the Dutch word "bosch-lopers" and was common in the 1600's. The Bosch-lopers pre-date the coureur de bois. It means, literally, bush loper, or one who lopes(runs) through the bushes. Coureur de bois means roughly the same thing, runner of the woods. There's a couple of pages telling a fairly concise story of the bosch-lopers in "The Fur Trade" by Paul Phillips. Check pages 153-55. The book was published in 1961, by University of Oklahoma Press, Norman, O,. as a two volume set. This info is from Vol. 1. Jim Hardee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:58:19 EDT From: Cherokeoil@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Skunked !!!!! Help Please!!! I don`t know much about skunks but i`ve heard they hate fox`s so you might try some fox scent. It`s supposed to really work. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:28:55 -0700 From: Pat Quilter Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Wrought Iron Bridges My childhood "Big Book of Bridges" made a distinction between "iron" and "steel" bridges. I managed to remember the name of the Eads Bridge in St Louis, which is easily found on the Web. According to the Boise State College Civil Engineering web site (and several other less rigorous resources) it was built in the 1870's and was "the first major bridge to use steel". Iron bridges, of course, go back to the early 1800's if not sooner, in England. I agree that wrought iron is more corrosion resistant. There is a famous uncoated wrought iron pillar in India which has stood for 2500 years with only minor corrosion around the base. Could wrought iron have been used in smaller local bridges where thinner gauges and chancier maintenance were factors? Or was it called something like "black steel" which was mentioned on another large St Louis bridge? Pat Quilter PS, I was high school class of 1964. - -----Original Message----- From: John Kramer [mailto:kramer@kramerize.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:38 PM To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Wrought Iron Pat, Nope. I'm saying that bridges were built of wrought iron up until 1964. The reason is better resistance to corrosion than steel. I've heard rumors that some small quantities are still being made -- expensive. I don't know about skyscrapers. Early on wagon tires were most certainly iron, I don't know about later. Can anyone say for sure why 1964 was such a benchmark year? The last silver money, the last good Winchesters, and the last of the best of a whole lot more. John... At 12:05 PM 9/28/99 -0700, you wrote: >Dear John >Are you really saying that before 1946 (vs 1846) bridges used only wrought >iron? Would this also apply to the structural steel used in skyscrapers? Did >bridges continue using the real thing for corrosion protection or some other >reason? Or did you mean pre-1846 which would be quite believable for many >reasons. Also, I heard old wagon tires were a good source of wrought iron. I >assisted Gary Sweany at the forge a few times, which is where I learned what >little I know. >YMOS >Pat Quilter > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Kramer [mailto:kramer@kramerize.com] >Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 4:15 PM >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Subject: RE: MtMan-List: New Guy > > >Todd, > >I'm not much of a smith myself. I have known some of the best there ever >was. >The folks who have extensive experience in smithing the old way -- without >compromise -- have impressed a couple of things on me over the years. > >1. Real charcoal is superior to coal. Gas is convenient. >2. Real wrought iron is superior to, and very different to work, than mild >steel. > >Real charcoal can be acquired from restaurant supply companies that service >open grill steakhouses. You can make your own. > >Real wrought iron can be acquired with a cutting torch from any pre-1964 >iron >bridge. Just whack off what you need. Things can get spicy if the bridge >is >still in service. > >This with small additions of carbon steel, only where it was needed, was >what >was primarily used in the early nineteenth century. > >To know how things were they must be done as they were. Then you'll really >know if newer is bigger, better and improved. Results are oft surprising. > >John... > > >At 07:39 PM 9/16/99 -0500, you wrote: >>I'm also a relative newcomer, only I'm located north of Kansas City. I >>also just got all my parts together to set up my forge and start smithing >>again. Been several years, and I mostly just shaped some trap stakes, >>figured I might want to try it with coal, just fer grins. It'll be nice >to >>talk to someone about smithing. >> >>Todd >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com >>> >[<mailto:owner-hist_text@l ists.xmission.com%5DOn>mailto:owner-hist_text@l ist >s.xmission.com]On Behalf Of >>> Cherokeoil@aol.com >>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 11:04 AM >>> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >>> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: New Guy >>> >>> >>> Where abouts are you located? I`m just south of Kansas City. I`m >>> a new comer >>> to. >>> >> >Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without. >John Kramer > John T. 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