From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #517 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, April 12 2000 Volume 01 : Number 517 In this issue: -       MtMan-List: wood curl -       Re: MtMan-List: wood curl -       Re: MtMan-List: loose hammer -       Re: MtMan-List: loose hammer -       MtMan-List: Howdy -       Re: MtMan-List: loose hammer -       MtMan-List: Re: Grinding coffee -       MtMan-List: Re: Mtman-list: loose Hammer -       Re: MtMan-List: loose hammer -       Re: MtMan-List:getting started -       Re: MtMan-List:getting started -       Re: MtMan-List:getting started -       MtMan-List: Elk Pants F/S -       MtMan-List: Tannin' Time -       Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time -       Re: [MtMan-List: Changes OFF TOPIC] -       Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time -       Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time -       MtMan-List: FW: Fwd: Fw: Unreal -- Forgotten Facts -       Re: MtMan-List: loose hammer -       Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time -       MtMan-List: bloodroot -       Re: MtMan-List: FW: Fwd: Fw: Unreal -- Forgotten Facts -       Re: MtMan-List: bloodroot -       Re: [MtMan-List: Changes OFF TOPIC] -       Re: MtMan-List: FW: Fwd: Fw: Unreal -- Forgotten Facts ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:16:04 -0500 From: "Frank Fusco" Subject: MtMan-List: wood curl One old timer, who specialized in selling real nice curly maple stock blanks, once told me, "It jes happens" and that it takes an experienced eye to spot the trees with good curl. That answer probably does not help a bit but it is lot more fun than John Kramer's very detailed response. Frank "Bearclaw" Fusco, Mountain Home, Arkansas - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:01:11 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: wood curl <<<<"It jes happens" and that it takes an experienced eye to spot the trees with good curl.>>> Haaaaaa....yeah, but that John Krammer sure knows his stuff! Ymos, Steve - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:07:20 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: loose hammer <<>>> Yup....it's the hammer like I said. <<>> Hmmm...good idea, I'll try the alum. foil but don't know where I'd find some brass that thin... Thanks Dave, Hawk, I'll let you know what worked... Ymos, Steve - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:03:02 -0700 From: Vic Barkin Subject: Re: MtMan-List: loose hammer Most hobby supply shops carry different guages of sheet brass Vic ><<>>> >Yup....it's the hammer like I said. > ><<peening everything unless it is a last resort. Even aluminum foil might >work as a shim.>>> > >Hmmm...good idea, I'll try the alum. foil but don't know where I'd find >some brass that thin... > >Thanks Dave, Hawk, I'll let you know what worked... > >Ymos, >Steve > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html Vic "Barkin Dawg" Barkin AMM #1537 Three Rivers Party - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:10:31 -0700 From: hail.eris@gte.net Subject: MtMan-List: Howdy My name is Kristopher Barrett, and I have been involved with shooting for a few decades, and blackpowder shooting for the past few years. I did put together a CVA .45 percussion kit years ago, and eventually sold it as a wall hanger ( looked good for a first attempt...). I have bought a few more firearms since then... I have been involved with a local buckskinning group for the past two years. I have not done anything outstandingly stupid enough to earn my "Name" yet. Give me time.... - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:30:33 -0600 From: "Ole B. Jensen" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: loose hammer On some lock parts that are made of steel, I have put them in a vice and built up the part with a wire feed welde or you can use a torch with brass rod and flux. This had better be done by someone who is an expert with either of these tools. YMOS Ole - ---------- >From: ThisOldFox@aol.com >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: loose hammer >Date: Mon, Apr 10, 2000, 11:58 AM > >> The hammer on my flintlock fusil is a mite loose....mebbe >> a .001 or .002... the square hole a bit large from use. > >First make sure it is the hammer and not the tumbler. Your lockplate hole >might be enlarged. > >> What would be the best way to tighten it up? > >A simple shim made from brass shim stock is probably best. Don't go peening >everything unless it is a last resort. Even aluminum foil might work as a >shim. > >> I'm thinkin silver solder may work, then file >> down, but don't know if it would stick to steel and wonder about the >heat... > >There is a possibility that you could remove the temper from the tumbler. >Again. its the last resort. > >Dave > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:30:32 -0500 From: "Matthew Porter" Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Grinding coffee Maybe by making coffee with whole beans it took longer to "cook" all the flavor out and was a form of conservation of a precious commodity. Or it might be that some liked whole beans and some liked grounded beans. That's just my 2 cents worth. YMHS Matt Porter - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 00 15:39:55 PDT From: David Van Vorous Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Mtman-list: loose Hammer = > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:08:30 EDT > From: SWcushing@aol.com > Subject: MtMan-List: loose hammer > = > Hallo the List, > = > Think I'll pass on the coffee beans too, and go with the smashed.... > = > Next question..... The hammer on my flintlock fusil is a mite >loose....mebbe a .001 or .002... the square hole a bit large from use. = >What would be the best way to tighten it... = > Ymos, > Steve > = Know its been covered a fair bit. Might add an old machinist trick in lie= u of the staking (or alternative to) approach. Use a ball bearing thats just a= tad over the hole size instead of the punch. Remove the cock, put the bearing= on the hole and smack same smartly with a hammer. This tends to uniformly di= stort the sides and yields an overall consistent upset around the hole. = Keep yer powder dry, D. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:53:55 -0600 From: Charles P Webb Subject: Re: MtMan-List: loose hammer Hello All, I will make a comment or two here, To Silver solder/ braze, the entire piece (hammer) must be brought up to near cherry red for soft or medium jewelers solder to flow , ( of course with the proper flux.). This heat usually causes a fire scale that causes the hammer to require refinishing. (browning/blueing). A small dollop from a wire feed welder can be placed into the flat of the hole then let cool completely before doing a second flat , again let cool etc. This will not cause the need for refinishing, simply dressing down the small dollop so the hammer fits the tumbler shank. Shim stock is not a problem to locate and will work very well as will the peening process. I have restored many original firearms flint and percussion that displayed peening marks that had been done by some gunsmith or blacksmith on the underside of the hammer years ago, simply to tighten the fit to the tumbler. Since I have witnessed this peening I believe it to be authentic. Another method I have seen is to drill an 1/8 in hole with the hammer on the tumbler shank into both the hammer and the shank then install a tight fitting short pin and then replace the hammer screw. I am at present working on an old shooter with a Golcher lock and this is how someone long ago tightened it up, it is still tight today. Even though I have never used this method, I know it has worked in the past. I have often stooped so low as to cut shim material from those spent unmentionable little brass devices some modern folks stuff into the breech of their shooters. .38 spec and .44-40 are very thin, .45 LC is thicker etc. I of course I only find these unmentionable items on the ground while foraging about in these Colorado hills. Being a concerned person I usually pick up such debris and pack it out of the woods with me.<<>> Respectfully, The Old Coyote - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:00:42 PDT From: "Matthew Hawley" Subject: Re: MtMan-List:getting started Hello ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:04:40 PDT From: "Matthew Hawley" Subject: Re: MtMan-List:getting started Hello i have been in muzzle loading for three years know and i am looking for anyone who would have a list of persons who make costom knife,hawk, and guns sets? Also would any one know the recipe to make parched corn? Matt (white eagle) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:25:40 -0700 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List:getting started White Eagle, Can't help a whole lot on the custom "kit" makers but I can get you fed while your looking. Parched corn is made out of either dried (on the cob) sweet corn or Indian corn. The sweet corn is all wrinkly in it's dry form and the Indian corn is quit hard. Strike up yourself a camp fire, put a small handful of either in a sheet iron skillet and stir the corn over the fire like you were gona make popcorn. The kernels will swell and perhaps split. Some may even "pop" a bit but will not puff up like "pop corn". When the corn kernels have puffed up as much as they will and before they start to burn, they are done. No grease or oil is needed. You can add some brown sugar, maple sugar, or molasses after it is done and cook the sugars down until they stick to the parched corn but this will make them draw moisture and should be do advisedly. Once you have your parched corn you can pound it into a meal and mix with dry brown sugars or use it plain as a mix for a "poor man's" mush or drink base. You can eat the parched whole kernels as is if you want. The sweet corn will be naturally chewy and naturally sweeter than the parched Indian corn. Good luck and enjoy. I remain..... YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:58:07 -0700 (MST) From: delis@aztec.asu.edu (BRUCE S. DE LIS) Subject: MtMan-List: Elk Pants F/S Elk Hide Pants For Sale Got a pair of Chrome Tanned Elk Hide Pants that I need to sell. Can be easly to look like Brain, or Bark Tanner. They are Waist Size 37-38, with an Inseem lenth of 34. They are like new as they were tried on, purchased, and I lost 25++ Pounds. They were made by Greg Arana of New Mexico They have Fring on both legs about 6 inches in lenth. Have a Single Line Fly ( Like Levi 501 with Elk Horn Buttons, and Button for Suspenders. More details plaase e-mail me privately, and not on list - -- A.K.A. Penny Pincher - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:15:05 -0600 From: Allen Hall Subject: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time Hello the list, Been pretty quiet around here. Guess everyone's out brain tanning like I've been. Got one hide done, another will be done tonight, and start serious pulling on a third one tomarrow. Like to hear some of your tips and favorite ways to take care of this task. I use a metal band, a la Paul Dinsmore, then stretch it out over my knees and a rope. The band gets a nice fuzzy surface. This is the best time of year for me, not too hot or too cold. Let's hear from you tanners, Allen Hall in Fort Hall country Allen Hall #1729 from Fort Hall country - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:50:42 -0700 From: Randal J Bublitz Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time Allan, I do all sorts of things, but 2 I've found to be a help are; 1) I put an axe in my vice at the edge of my work bench, gripping the head with the handle pointed straight up. I then drape the hide over the handle and pull down on each side. This way I can use my weight, hanging on the hide to stretch it good. 2) I put my small camp shovel in the vice, gripping on the place where you'd put your foot. Then I work the edge of the hide (all the way around) back and forth over the shovel edge. I found the edges hard to work, and this method allows me to work the entire hide, no stiff edges. I'd be interested to hear of other methods also. There is always a new trick for this old dog to learn. Also, I prefer wet scraping, as opposed to the dry scrape method. For a fleshing beam I use a piece of PVC sewer pipe. (hey I live in the 'burbs...cotton wood logs are hard to come by here.) I use the back edge of an old draw knife to do most of my scraping. hardtack - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 00 07:54:20 EDT From: Concho Smith Subject: Re: [MtMan-List: Changes OFF TOPIC] Hey, What happened to the "Heirloom seed listing" on Clark & Sons Mercantile w= eb site, haven't visited for a spell, need somethings - no listings. Anyone hear from Buck to what happened ?????? Concho Smith ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:44:10 -0500 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time Allen, When......exactly....... does it get "hot" at your house?=20 YMOS Lanney Ratcliff Texas - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Allen Hall To: Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 10:15 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time > Hello the list, >=20 > Been pretty quiet around here. Guess everyone's out brain tanning = like I've > been. Got one hide done, another will be done tonight, and start = serious > pulling on a third one tomarrow. >=20 > Like to hear some of your tips and favorite ways to take care of this = task. >=20 > I use a metal band, a la Paul Dinsmore, then stretch it out over my = knees > and a rope. The band gets a nice fuzzy surface. >=20 > This is the best time of year for me, not too hot or too cold. =20 >=20 > Let's hear from you tanners, >=20 > Allen Hall in Fort Hall country > Allen Hall #1729 from Fort Hall country >=20 >=20 > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 05:51:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry & Barbara Zaslow Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time Allen, Some of what I do is similiar to what Randy does (with the exception that I do dry scraping.) I clamp the shovel blade of a military trenching tool in a vice and work it in the same manner. Best Regards, Jerry (Meriwether) Zaslow - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:46:55 -0600 From: "Ole B. Jensen" Subject: MtMan-List: FW: Fwd: Fw: Unreal -- Forgotten Facts - ---------- From: Peggy Clyde To: "cory" , "danny" , "sandy campbell" , "Sharon " , "Todd" , "Karen" , "LAUNA FARNSWORTH" Subject: Fwd: Fw: Unreal -- Forgotten Facts Date: Mon, Apr 10, 2000, 11:00 PM Subject: Fw: Unreal -- Forgotten Facts Sent: 4/8/1920 11:43 PM Received: 4/10/2000 1:56 PM From: Arlene Ward, award@infowest.com To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@infowest.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: VERA HIRSCHI Subject: Unreal! Forgotten Facts: Back in 1969 a group of Black Panthers decided that a fellow black named Alex Rackley needed to die. Rackley was a fellow Panther suspected of disloyalty. Rackley was first tied to a chair. Once safely immobilized his 'friends' tortured him for hours by, among other things, pouring boiling water on him. When they got tired of torturing Rackley, Black Panther member Warren Kimbo took Mr. Rackley outside and put a bullet in his head. Rackley's body was later found floating in a river about 25 miles north of New Haven, Conn. Perhaps at this point you're curious as to what happened to these Black Panthers. In 1977, that's only eight years later, only one of the killers was still in jail. The shooter, Warren Kimbro, managed to get a scholarship to Harvard. He later became an assistant dean at Eastern Connecticut State College. Isn't that something? As a '60s radical you can pump a bullet into someone's head, and a few years later, in the same state, you can become an assistant college dean! Only in America! Erica Huggins was the lady who served the Panthers by boiling the water for Mr. Rackley's torture. Some years later Ms. Huggins was elected to a California School Board. How in the world do you think these killers got off so easy? Maybe it was in some part due to the efforts of two people who came to the defense of the Panthers. These two people actually went so far as to shut down Yale University with demonstrations in defense of the accused Black Panthers during their trial. One of these people was none other than Bill Lan Lee. Mr. Lee, or Mr. Lan Lee, as the case may be, isn't a college dean. He isn't a member of a California School Board. He is now head of the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division. O.K., so who was the other Panther defender? Is this other notable Panther defender now a school board member? Is this other Panther apologist now an assistant college dean? No, Neither! The other Panther defender was, like Lee, a radical law student at Yale University at the time. She is now known as The "smartest woman in the world." She is none other than the unofficial Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate from the State of New York----our lovely First Lady, the incredible Hillary Rodham Clinton. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:12:17 -0700 From: "John C. Funk, Jr." Subject: Re: MtMan-List: loose hammer Steve, Send me an address off line and I'll send you a small piece of brass shim about .01 thick. John Funk - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 12:07 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: loose hammer > <<>>> > Yup....it's the hammer like I said. > > <<>> > > Hmmm...good idea, I'll try the alum. foil but don't know where I'd find some brass that thin... > > Thanks Dave, Hawk, I'll let you know what worked... > > Ymos, > Steve > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:41:12 -0600 From: Joe Brandl Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time Gee guys, I use a 54 inch setting out machine powered by a 30 hp motor to stretch hides. Dave Bethke in American Falls loves to stretch his hides on this baby. Sure gets the job done Joe Have a look at our web site @ www.dteworld.com/absarokawesterndesign/ Call us about our tanning, furs & leather and lodgepole furniture 307-455-2440 New leather wildlife coasters and placemats - ther're great!! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:42:46 -0600 From: Joe Brandl Subject: MtMan-List: bloodroot I just returned from Nebr and picked some "bloodroot" I know some of its uses by indians, any other notes on this plant? Joe Have a look at our web site @ www.dteworld.com/absarokawesterndesign/ Call us about our tanning, furs & leather and lodgepole furniture 307-455-2440 New leather wildlife coasters and placemats - ther're great!! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:45:51 -0700 From: hail.eris@gte.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: FW: Fwd: Fw: Unreal -- Forgotten Facts On 12 Apr 00, at 7:46, Ole B. Jensen wrote: > Forgotten Facts: > > Back in 1969 a group of Black Panthers decided And this relates to Buckskinning and Blackpowder shooting in what fashion? Kristopher K. Barrett - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:28:22 -0400 From: "D Miles" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bloodroot "bloodroot" The juice is a good sore throat remedy... D "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accoutrements http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 "Knowing how is just the beginning" - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2000 08:30:42 -0700 From: Buck Conner Subject: Re: [MtMan-List: Changes OFF TOPIC] On Wed, 12 April 2000, Concho Smith wrote: > Hey, > > What happened to the "Heirloom seed listing" on Clark & Sons Mercantile web site, haven't visited for a spell, need somethings - no listings. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Concho and friends, After talking to several of the "Heirloom Seed" producers (4) that supplied us, it was brought to our attention that there are several period shops advertising these seeds, which have turned out to be modern seeds no earlier variety than 1900. These firms have been written about in several resent articles in period magazines as having "Heirloom Seeds" but one merchant has mentioned he gets his seeds from BURPEE and GURNEY's old time seed collection, sorry folks that's not "Heirloom". Rather than being labeled with these groups - firms misleading customers on what they are buying, it was decided to get out of that end of the business. I have some "heirloom seeds" left and will make someone a deal on them as a group lot, if interested contact me OFF LIST. Thanks Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. buck.conner@uswestmail.net Later Buck Conner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ http://pages.about.com/buckconner ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "meat's not meat until it's in the pan" Aux Aliments de Pays! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:06:31 -0700 From: Frank Subject: Re: MtMan-List: FW: Fwd: Fw: Unreal -- Forgotten Facts Okay, somehow I'm missing the connection? Frank "Ole B. Jensen" wrote: > ---------- > From: Peggy Clyde > To: "cory" , "danny" , "sandy > campbell" , "Sharon " , > "Todd" , "Karen" , "LAUNA > FARNSWORTH" > Subject: Fwd: Fw: Unreal -- Forgotten Facts > Date: Mon, Apr 10, 2000, 11:00 PM > > Subject: Fw: Unreal -- Forgotten Facts > Sent: 4/8/1920 11:43 PM > Received: 4/10/2000 1:56 PM > From: Arlene Ward, award@infowest.com > To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@infowest.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: VERA HIRSCHI > Subject: Unreal! > > Forgotten Facts: > > Back in 1969 a group of Black Panthers decided > that a fellow black named Alex Rackley needed to die. Rackley > was a fellow Panther suspected of disloyalty. > Rackley was first tied to a chair. Once safely immobilized > his 'friends' tortured him for hours by, among other things, > pouring boiling water on him. When they got tired of > torturing Rackley, Black Panther member Warren Kimbo took Mr. > Rackley outside and put a bullet in his head. Rackley's body > was later found floating in a river about 25 miles north of > New Haven, Conn. > > Perhaps at this point you're curious as to what happened to > these Black Panthers. In 1977, that's only eight years later, > only one of the killers was still in jail. The shooter, > Warren Kimbro, managed to get a scholarship to Harvard. > He later became an assistant dean at Eastern Connecticut > State College. > > Isn't that something? As a '60s radical you can pump a bullet > into someone's head, and a few years later, in the same state, > you can become an assistant college dean! Only in America! > > Erica Huggins was the lady who served the Panthers by boiling > the water for Mr. Rackley's torture. Some years later Ms. > Huggins was elected to a California School Board. > > How in the world do you think these killers got off so easy? > Maybe it was in some part due to the efforts of two people who > came to the defense of the Panthers. > > These two people actually went so far as to shut down Yale > University with demonstrations in defense of the accused Black > Panthers during their trial. > > One of these people was none other than Bill Lan Lee. Mr. > Lee, or Mr. Lan Lee, as the case may be, isn't a college dean. > He isn't a member of a California School Board. He is now > head of the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division. > O.K., so who was the other Panther defender? Is this other > notable Panther defender now a school board member? Is this > other Panther apologist now an assistant college dean? > > No, Neither! > The other Panther defender was, like Lee, a radical law > student at Yale University at the time. She is now known as > The "smartest woman in the world." She is none other than the > unofficial Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate from the > State of New York----our lovely First Lady, the incredible > Hillary Rodham Clinton. > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #517 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.