From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #519 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Saturday, April 15 2000 Volume 01 : Number 519 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time -       MtMan-List: article quote in local paper concerning muskets -       MtMan-List: Treasures found!!! -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       MtMan-List: Second braining -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       MtMan-List: Puppet info Pre-1840 -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       MtMan-List: Ebay Alert -       Re: MtMan-List: Ebay Alert -       MtMan-List: Re: Grinding coffee -       MtMan-List: "Be it beaver or marmot- hat's where the game" -       Re: MtMan-List: "Be it beaver or marmot- hat's where the game" -       Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston -       Re: MtMan-List: "Be it beaver or marmot- hat's where the game" -       Re: MtMan-List: "Be it beaver or marmot- hat's where the game" -       Re: MtMan-List: Re: Grinding coffee -       Re: [Re: MtMan-List: Be it beaver or marmot- hats where the game] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 13 Apr 2000 18:10:17 -0700 From: Buck Conner Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston On Thu, 13 April 2000, "D Miles" wrote: > > Yep, same here.. I just bought a BRAND NEW copy at Hastings for $7.99///My old one was gettin wore.... "I'll die if I don't get some WHIISKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" > D > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Frank V. Rago > > If it is "The Mountain Men" and you don't get much feedback, hell I will > > just watch it for you and take notes. It's a good'nuff reason to pull it out and watch it again. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: D Miles > > > > Are you sure it isnt "The Mountain Men" with Brian Keith And Charlton Heston??? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hey gang, Who knows what the original name of this movie was going to be, they had even made up promotion posters, "T" shirts, etc. before checking if the original name was usuable - it wasn't. Trapper Tom and myself ran "The American Sportsman" shoot at the filming and received silver and gold plated belt buckles for our efforts, that's how we found out about this name - which would have been a better title I always thought. Linda may remember if she thinks about it. Later Buck Conner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ http://pages.about.com/buckconner ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "meat's not meat until it's in the pan" Aux Aliments de Pays! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:48:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Newbill Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 tetontodd@juno.com wrote: > I've known some experiemced tanners who get good results with one > braining, but probably just as many have confessed that they usually do > two or three brainings to get a real nice hide. > I've come to figure on two everytime . Heck... I don't feel so bad then. I spent a lot of time on my very first braintan hide recently, and wound up with a beautifully colored piece of white cardboard. Backe to the brainsoak. Your Most Obedient Servant... Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho Clerk of the Hog Heaven Muzzleloaders http://www.geocities.com/~lnewbill - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:20:13 -0400 (EDT) From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (JON MARINETTI) Subject: MtMan-List: article quote in local paper concerning muskets " the state of Massachusetts clamped trigger locks on two of the historic muskets from Lexington and Concord that hang in the state Senate chamber." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from Michigan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:40:05 -0400 (EDT) From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (JON MARINETTI) Subject: MtMan-List: Treasures found!!! Longwalker, Buck, Hawk: Maybe no coincidence that you found those gems, just as Hawk said - The Great Spirit Father whom neighbor Charles Hanson is up there fellowshipping with inspired your mind to take the steps that ye did? Maybe even better is yet to come - sure hope so! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from Michigan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:50:34 -0400 From: "Donald A. Ricetti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston Seems to me that the "original" title was "Wind River". At least thats what they called it when they were filming it on the Snake River outside Jackson's Hole while I lived there, round abouts '77 or '78. Never will forgive my parents for not loaning me a vehicle so I could haveat least been in some scenes. Buck Conner wrote: > On Thu, 13 April 2000, "D Miles" wrote: > > > > > Yep, same here.. I just bought a BRAND NEW copy at Hastings for $7.99///My old one was gettin wore.... "I'll die if I don't get some WHIISKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" > > D > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Frank V. Rago > > > If it is "The Mountain Men" and you don't get much feedback, hell I will > > > just watch it for you and take notes. It's a good'nuff reason to pull it out and watch it again. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: D Miles > > > > > > Are you sure it isnt "The Mountain Men" with Brian Keith And Charlton Heston??? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Hey gang, > > Who knows what the original name of this movie was going to be, they had even made up promotion posters, "T" shirts, etc. before checking if the original name was usuable - it wasn't. > > Trapper Tom and myself ran "The American Sportsman" shoot at the filming and received silver and gold plated belt buckles for our efforts, that's how we found out about this name - which would have been a better title I always thought. > > Linda may remember if she thinks about it. > > Later > Buck Conner > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~ http://pages.about.com/buckconner ~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "meat's not meat until it's in the pan" > Aux Aliments de Pays! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:12:46 EDT From: Ssturtle1199@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston Have an original full size poster of "The Mountain Men" on my wall in bedroom. Most blatant error in this is the pistol Heston has in drawing has hammer on right side and the frizzen on left side . - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:24:10 -0600 From: Mike Moore Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston Well, here is another bit of inaccuracy- Frapp (Henry Fraeb)dies in a fight on the Snake River near the Wyo/ Colorado border. Been to the site with a few of the other Baker Party members. He was put in a unmarked grave ( in the ground) and not buried Indian style. The film has a lot of stuff in it which we notice. But still enjoy watching it two to three times a year. (canvas tipis, the sounds the guns make, are just the start.) mike. Ssturtle1199@aol.com wrote: > Have an original full size poster of "The Mountain Men" on my wall in > bedroom. Most blatant error in this is the pistol Heston has in drawing has > hammer on right side and the frizzen on left side . > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:00:50 -0600 From: Allen Hall Subject: MtMan-List: Second braining Hello the list, Funny, my very first hide came out fine with a single braining, but everything else has taken 2. I got some really big thick hides for my frock coat and they took 3. One thing I have done though, is smoke the hide after the first pulling. That way anything you did get pulled out will stay soft after the second braining. I've done this a couple of times and now it's what I do everytime. The smoke smell is less offensive to regular folks than plain brain smell, which makes mama happy. Hey, thanks for all the comments, this is interesting. And for you folks that haven't made brain tan yet, it's just not all that tough. Give it a try! Allen > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 00:00:55 EDT From: GazeingCyot@cs.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston Hello in the camp! On that belt Buckle of mine it has Wind River Rendezvous. Yepers, I got in on the makein of that one. In fact that shoot you were talking about Buck was the day I show up and bribed my way in by giving Heston a ceramic statue of a mountain man I had made. Up until then they had told me they had all the extras they needed. The one thing I thought they done a good job on was the horse tack They even had one saddle in the movie that looks like the Grimsley Hybrid Saddle. Crazy Cyot - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 00:32:28 EDT From: MdntRdr1@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston So the movie sort of is factual? - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 00:54:44 EDT From: WSmith4100@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston Well, it was about Mountain men and we know they did exist. Oh yeah, They were some indians portrayed (haha). p.s. I've watched it several times too!! Wade "Sleeps loudly" Smith Meridian, Id - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:12:22 -0700 From: Randal J Bublitz Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston It was a fictional story, which borrowed (loosely) on some real characters and situations. Bill Tylers run from the blackfeet = Colter's run. Frapp (Fraeb) was a real character, but he spoke english poorly (as he was a german). Nat Wyeth was a real character, and an ice merchant (invented an ice cutting device, etc..) from Boston. He did have plans to send salmon east in barrels, etc... Do not take the Movie as fact though..... loosely based on some reality... I've watched it too many times though...I love it..it is fun... hardtack - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 14 Apr 2000 05:34:49 -0700 From: Buck Conner Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston On Thu, 13 April 2000, GazeingCyot@cs.com wrote: > > Hello in the camp! On that belt Buckle of mine it has Wind River Rendezvous. > Yepers, I got in on the makein of that one. In fact that shoot you were > talking about Buck was the day I show up and bribed my way in by giving > Heston a ceramic statue of a mountain man I had made. Up until then they had > told me they had all the extras they needed. > The one thing I thought they done a good job on was the horse tack They > even had one saddle in the movie that looks like the Grimsley Hybrid Saddle. > Crazy Cyot > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Crazy that's correct the original name was to be "Wind River Rendezvous", but because of an agreement between the Hollywood movie companies if more than two words where the same as another movie made before the current one - within that year, they couldn't use the name ! Never did figure out what movie came out with two of the three words ??? You showing up at that shoot, you will remember me making Chuck eat the raw egg he missed in that one event, later he wanted me to eat a raw egg - I did in a glass of beer. Then he gave Trapper and myself belt buckles for running the event - think American Sportsman show paid for them, whatever. We where on the set for three weeks, saw the first Indians - hadn't missed many meals, so the ones they used where from the American Indian Rodeo Assn., all bow legged, slim and good horsemen. Several groups where from the Rosebud Rev. - even "Iron Eyes Cody" was there, got to visit with him and Bryan Keith many times in our camp at Hoback Junction. Fun times, had some nice people working there, saw folks that we hadn't seen for years, we (Trapper and myself) probably gave the word to let you in if you looked pretty good. We worked with Jerry Crandell (mountainman artist and movie advertiser) on making suggestions on clothing on workers, etc. No matter how you "bird dog" such an operation, still some questionables seek in. I work walk around gathering olive drab army blanket that locals brought in to keep warm, go back through 3-4 hours later and theres more of them. To work that scene day after day like they do we would all quit. Later Buck Conner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ http://pages.about.com/buckconner ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "meat's not meat until it's in the pan" Aux Aliments de Pays! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 14 Apr 2000 05:51:50 -0700 From: Buck Conner Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston On Thu, 13 April 2000, Randal J Bublitz wrote: > It was a fictional story, which borrowed (loosely) on some real characters and situations. Bill Tylers run from the blackfeet = Colter's run. Frapp (Fraeb) was a real character, but he spoke english poorly (as he was a german). Nat Wyeth was a real character, and ......... > times though...I love it..it is fun... hardtack > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That's the bottom line, you loved it and have watched it many many times, like they say that's show business..... Very few films are acturate, in the last few years they have done better making them more correct, but time is money and it takes time to gather correct loding, clothing, weapons and equipage, etc. Of all the movies that have come out in the last 10-15 years, take a look at "Black Robe", you watch that one and those folks even look blue when cold - you may go get a sweater too. I was very hard with my comments and remarks about inacturate things found when viewing a period show until getting involved in a half dozen such events, and now can understand just a few of the problems; money, actors, back ground actors, unions, feeding, props, etc.- overall they are doing better and seem to be going in the right direction, we hope. Later Buck Conner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ http://pages.about.com/buckconner ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "meat's not meat until it's in the pan" Aux Aliments de Pays! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 06:18:09 PDT From: "Kevin Pitman" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston Actually (and most humbly) the line is :If I don't get some whiskey soon I'm gonna dieeeeeeee!!! ymos, Kevin >From: "D Miles" >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston >Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:39:03 -0400 > >Yep, same here.. I just bought a BRAND NEW copy at Hastings for $7.99///My >old one was gettin wore.... >"I'll die if I don't get some WHIISKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" >D > >"Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" > DOUBLE EDGE FORGE > Period Knives & Iron Accoutrements > http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 > "Knowing how is just the beginning" > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Frank V. Rago >To: >Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 7:45 PM >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston > > > > If it is "The Mountain Men" and you don't get much feedback, hell I will > > just watch it for you and take notes. It's a good'nuff reason to pull >it > > out and watch it again. > > > > FVR > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: D Miles > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 7:31 PM > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston > > > > > > > Are you sure it isnt "The Mountain Men" with Brian Keith And Charlton > > > Heston??? > > > D > > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > > hist_text list info: >http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:31:29 -0400 From: "D Miles" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston Kevin. You are absolutley right, and for my grevious error, I will bag work in the shop today and review the movie once again. Ohhh, the things I do for accuracy.. D "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accoutrements http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 "Knowing how is just the beginning" - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:44:02 -0400 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: MtMan-List: Puppet info Pre-1840 I know... this is strange, but I got a request on my web page for anyone who might have ingo on Pre-1840 puppets, etc... It was from Lori and Mark Maas, and they are involved with the Fort Atkinson historical site. They have about 1000 kids from the local schools go thru each Ronny, and would like to put on a puppet sho for them, but they want to do it "period" style. If any one has any info, or knows where they can find it, please email them at simply@ticon.net Thanks... Ad Miller - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:00:22 EDT From: LODGEPOLE@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston In a message dated 4/14/00 6:20:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, kpmtnman@hotmail.com writes: << Actually (and most humbly) the line is :If I don't get some whiskey soon I'm gonna dieeeeeeee!!! >> As it happens, I have this line on a sound (.wav) file if anyone wants it shoot me a line off list. Longshot "Longshot's Rendezvous Homepage" http://members.aol.com/lodgepole/longshot.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:22:41 -0600 From: louis.l.sickler@lmco.com Subject: MtMan-List: Ebay Alert Ho the List, For those of you out there that use Ebay to find some good items, here's one I found. A while back folks were asking about Mable Morrow's book, "Indian Rawhide". It's available as auction #307211869 INDIAN RAWHIDE, M. MORROW, 1ST 1975. Bidding starts at $35. I already have a copy, so I'm not going to bid against you. Lou Sickler Colorado Territory - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:16:18 -0600 From: bcunningham@gwe.net (Bill Cunningham) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ebay Alert There are also two copies on Alibris: both hardback, one for $73.00 and one for 32.00. - -----Original Message----- From: louis.l.sickler@lmco.com To: hist_text@xmission.com Date: Friday, April 14, 2000 10:26 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Ebay Alert Ho the List, For those of you out there that use Ebay to find some good items, here's one I found. A while back folks were asking about Mable Morrow's book, "Indian Rawhide". It's available as auction #307211869 INDIAN RAWHIDE, M. MORROW, 1ST 1975. Bidding starts at $35. I already have a copy, so I'm not going to bid against you. Lou Sickler Colorado Territory - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:16:26 -0500 From: "Henry B. Crawford" Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Grinding coffee Keep your antique grinder handy, Steve. I have one, too. If you're at a trading post you would have used one. There are a few depictions in drawings at trading posts as well as in inventories. However, I wouldn't recommend them in camp, though, unless you're interpreting a big historic rendezvous where grinders may have been hauled in by fur trade company reps. Otherwise, the leather bag works real good and saves weight. I use a cloth bag and break the beans very gently (to extend the life of the bag), then leave the grounds in the bag and put the whole thing in the water. This keeps grounds in the pot and out of my cup, and makes it easy to reuse them (for all us lazy sob's). HBC ><<<I believe they put it in a sack, or piece of something to > >keep it>>> >Haaaaaa! You boys are good.... according to Hanson's "The Buckskinner's >Cook Book" they put the roasted beans in a leather bag and pounded till the >beans were crushed.... Looks like I'll put my antique coffee grinder back on >the shelf.... > >Ymos, > >Steve ********************************** Henry B. Crawford Curator of History Museum of Texas Tech University Box 43191 Lubbock, TX 79409-3191 mxhbc@ttacs.ttu.edu 806/742-2442 FAX 742-1136 Website: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum *** Living History . . . Because It's There *** - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 14 Apr 2000 16:35:16 -0700 From: Buck Conner Subject: MtMan-List: "Be it beaver or marmot- hat's where the game" Hist_list and Brothers of the AMM, Just a few weeks ago the lists we where talking beaver, plews, pelts and matters of such if one recalls !!! There's a new article by James A. Hanson, "The Myth of the Silk Hat and the End of the Rendezvous". Jim has learned his craft well following in the footsteps of his famous father, not only a skilled researcher but an outstanding writer. To read this article friends you better be a member of the Museum of the Fur Trade ! Well it's about time to sign up and get this issue of their "Quarterly" journal, talk is cheap. Like the name implies "Quarterly" is the number of issues you'll receive for the grand sum of $10.00 American payable to: The Museum Of The Fur Trade 6321 highway 20 Chadron, NE 69337 1-308-432-3843 www.furtrade.org museum@furtrade.org They usually have back issues so don't forget to ask about them also, personally I've got all of them from Charley years ago and have been a member for as long as one can remember. So if you want to "talk the talk", [FUR TRADE] join up and tell the story right, then maybe you'll have a better understanding of "walking the walk". Later Buck Conner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ http://pages.about.com/buckconner ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "meat's not meat until it's in the pan" Aux Aliments de Pays! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:42:22 -0700 From: "John C. Funk, Jr." Subject: Re: MtMan-List: "Be it beaver or marmot- hat's where the game" Buck, You're right on......this was an excellent "Quarterly". Seems the articles get more and more comprehensive as time goes on. I keep wondering, "where does all this knowledge come from"? It's like some Troll rolls back a rock in the high lonesome and another bit of historical fact is made known. I swear, it's all out there. It just take the a fine researcher with time and experience to discover its whereabouts. John Funk - ----- Original Message ----- From: Buck Conner To: Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 4:35 PM Subject: MtMan-List: "Be it beaver or marmot- hat's where the game" > Hist_list and Brothers of the AMM, > > Just a few weeks ago the lists we where talking beaver, plews, pelts and matters of such if one recalls !!! > > There's a new article by James A. Hanson, "The Myth of the Silk Hat and the End of the Rendezvous". Jim has learned his craft well following in the footsteps of his famous father, not only a skilled researcher but an outstanding writer. > > To read this article friends you better be a member of the Museum of the Fur Trade ! Well it's about time to sign up and get this issue of their "Quarterly" journal, talk is cheap. Like the name implies "Quarterly" is the number of issues you'll receive for the grand sum of $10.00 American payable to: > > The Museum Of The Fur Trade > 6321 highway 20 > Chadron, NE 69337 > 1-308-432-3843 > www.furtrade.org > museum@furtrade.org > > They usually have back issues so don't forget to ask about them also, personally I've got all of them from Charley years ago and have been a member for as long as one can remember. > > So if you want to "talk the talk", [FUR TRADE] join up and tell the story right, then maybe you'll have a better understanding of "walking the walk". > > Later > Buck Conner > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~ http://pages.about.com/buckconner ~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "meat's not meat until it's in the pan" > Aux Aliments de Pays! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:18:18 -0600 From: Joe Brandl Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston Buck, do you live near Hastings, NE? Joe Have a look at our web site @ www.dteworld.com/absarokawesterndesign/ Call us about our tanning, furs & leather and lodgepole furniture 307-455-2440 New leather wildlife coasters and placemats - ther're great!! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:27:00 -0600 From: bcunningham@gwe.net (Bill Cunningham) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: "Be it beaver or marmot- hat's where the game" Not only does this article "talk" about the price of plews (depending on whether they were taken in the southwest, northwest, or Rockies they ran from 1.00 to as much as 8.00 per pound) but it also has a lot of data refuting the idea that silk hats caused the end of the fur trade/rendezvous period. Great article - great publication! - -----Original Message----- From: Buck Conner To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, April 14, 2000 5:38 PM Subject: MtMan-List: "Be it beaver or marmot- hat's where the game" >Hist_list and Brothers of the AMM, > >Just a few weeks ago the lists we where talking beaver, plews, pelts and matters of such if one recalls !!! > >There's a new article by James A. Hanson, "The Myth of the Silk Hat and the End of the Rendezvous". Jim has learned his craft well following in the footsteps of his famous father, not only a skilled researcher but an outstanding writer. > >To read this article friends you better be a member of the Museum of the Fur Trade ! Well it's about time to sign up and get this issue of their "Quarterly" journal, talk is cheap. Like the name implies "Quarterly" is the number of issues you'll receive for the grand sum of $10.00 American payable to: > >The Museum Of The Fur Trade >6321 highway 20 >Chadron, NE 69337 >1-308-432-3843 >www.furtrade.org >museum@furtrade.org > >They usually have back issues so don't forget to ask about them also, personally I've got all of them from Charley years ago and have been a member for as long as one can remember. > >So if you want to "talk the talk", [FUR TRADE] join up and tell the story right, then maybe you'll have a better understanding of "walking the walk". > >Later >Buck Conner >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >~~ http://pages.about.com/buckconner ~~ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >"meat's not meat until it's in the pan" > Aux Aliments de Pays! >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:17:58 -0400 From: michael pierce Subject: Re: MtMan-List: "Be it beaver or marmot- hat's where the game" buck---you got it right---walk the walk ---talk the talk but charley knew his perios stuff--- nuff said---guys sign up and you get yoy moneys worth and then some--- hawk ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 02:54:32 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Grinding coffee In a message dated 4/14/00 3:19:41 PM, mxhbc@TTACS.TTU.EDU writes: << I use a cloth bag and break the beans very gently (to extend the life of the bag), then leave the grounds in the bag and put the whole thing in the water. This keeps grounds in the pot and out of my cup, and makes it easy to reuse them (for all us lazy sob's). >> Thanks Henry..... and thats a great idea about using the cloth bag and leavin the grounds in there. The worst case of heart burn I ever had was choking down a hand full of grinds in a cup..... that and some rotgut whiskey.... small price to pay for the whiskey though..... Ymos, Steve - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 00 10:37:01 EDT From: Concho Smith Subject: Re: [Re: MtMan-List: Be it beaver or marmot- hats where the game] Thanks Buck & Bill, This is a great resource; Museum of the Fur Trade Quarterly, if you aren'= t getting them - your missing out on some great material, may want to consi= der asking about back issues. A year ago I bought ever back issue available, = can't remember the price - other than very fair, only missing a dozen issues, t= hose where the early ones and copied them while on a hunting vacation at Buck'= s. "Concho" Smith = - ----------------------------- bcunningham@gwe.net (Bill Cunningham) wrote: Not only does this article "talk" about the price of plews (depending on whether they were taken in the southwest, northwest, or Rockies they ran from 1.00 to as much as 8.00 per pound) but it also has a lot of data refuting the idea that silk hats caused the end of the fur trade/rendezvo= us period. Great article - great publication! - -----Original Message----- From: Buck Conner >To read this article friends you better be a member of the Museum of the= Fur Trade ! Well it's about time to sign up and get this issue of their "Quarterly" journal, talk is cheap. Like the name implies "Quarterly" is = the number of issues you'll receive for the grand sum of $10.00 American paya= ble to: > >The Museum Of The Fur Trade >6321 highway 20 >Chadron, NE 69337 >1-308-432-3843 >www.furtrade.org >museum@furtrade.org > >They usually have back issues so don't forget to ask about them also, personally I've got all of them from Charley years ago and have been a member for as long as one can remember. > >So if you want to "talk the talk", [FUR TRADE] join up and tell the stor= y right, then maybe you'll have a better understanding of "walking the walk= ". > >Later >Buck Conner ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #519 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.