From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #596 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, July 26 2000 Volume 01 : Number 596 In this issue: -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Travois, and Barbs -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Saddles & Such -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Horses and such -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Travois, and Barbs -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Saddles & Such -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Saddles and Such -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Saddles & Such -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Awl-for-All -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Awl-for-All -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Traders Row Page -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Traders Row Page - OOPS!! -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Traders Row Page -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Awl-for-All -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Traders Row Page -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Traders Row Page - OOPS!! -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Saddles and Such -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark Education -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: babrbs -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: barbs that is -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: FESTIVAL OF THE AMERICAN FRONTIER , show & tell event ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:54:10 -0500 From: Mike Rock Subject: MtMan-List: Travois, and Barbs Anyone else ever use a travois for any distance?? I am going to build one like we had in the fifties and am looking for any others with memories of how the poles lashed over the withers and if there was a strap or something up there to support the load. Any ideas on how a load of tipi poles travels... All I remember is they said the poles were on one pony...and the travois on others. Mrs. Eagle Elk told the stories and I would like to reconstruct them if possible. The poles she talked about had lash holes in some or all of them, near the tips. Poles wore out in one or two summers of traveling in western S.D.and Neb, NW Colo, and eastern Wy Any Barb fans out here? Looking for some or maybe some mustangs that show a lot of Barb. Most respectfully, Mike - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:58:44 -0600 From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" Subject: MtMan-List: Saddles & Such This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFF494.F7F79BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As long is the saddle subject is up, can you give me any advice on = carrying personal items on a riding horse. The two options I can see are = wrapping everything in the blanket or using a "trap sack". Have wondered = about rolling the blanket with a piece of canvas for a ground cloth = also. Didn't think there was much stuff to take until I piled it all = together. Now I am starting to wonder if food is really necessary. YMOS WY PS If anyone can tell me how to get rid of all the computer crap that = follows all my posts please E-mail the process to me. Write slowly = computerese is a second language to me. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFF494.F7F79BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As long is the saddle subject is up, can you give me any advice on = carrying=20 personal items on a riding horse. The two options I can see are wrapping = everything in the blanket or using a "trap sack". Have wondered about = rolling=20 the blanket with a piece of canvas for a ground cloth also. Didn’t = think there=20 was much stuff to take until I piled it all together. Now I am starting = to=20 wonder if food is really necessary.<G>

YMOS

PS If anyone can tell me how to get rid of all the computer crap that = follows=20 all my posts please E-mail the process to me. Write slowly computerese = is a=20 second language to me.

- ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFF494.F7F79BC0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:20:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry & Barbara Zaslow Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Horses and such Wynn, The person who made my saddle is Tom Nichols. I will be seeing him at the end of August and will see if I can get a copy of the description he has spoken about so I can send it to you. Best Regards, Jerry (Meriwether) Zaslow #1488 ________________________________________________________________________________ At 08:02 AM 07/21/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Lee wrote: > >That's what I'm in the process of working out. I spend a lot of time in the mountains either going straight up or down..... but don't think a crupper is neccesary at this time as I've never had a saddle slip forward.... yet > >I have found that a saddle can slip back a long way without bothering the horse much- jus makes more work for him. But if it goes a few inches ahead on a downhill trail, it is on his withers and he is in pain. He will either shorten his stride and really stick his back feet under or try to jog out from under the saddle. A little farther forward and you can be spitting rocks out of yer mouth cause falling down hill you can really get up some momentum. I have used cruppers off and on mostly depending on the saddle. My experience might be different since I am a sorry excuse, and because I have not bothered to tighten the cinch much. > >Also I see a lot of cruppers in Miller paintings, but I do not see breast collars on riding stock. Can someone enlighten me with documentation? > >On another note, Jerry Zaslow referred to a description of the saddle that Jed procured in California. Can someone let me know where to find that source. > >Thank You > >WY > > > > > > > > >

Lee wrote:

That's what I'm in the process of working out. I spend a lot of time in the >mountains either going straight up or down..... but don't think a crupper is >neccesary at this time as I've never had a saddle slip forward.... yet

I have found that a saddle can slip back a long way without bothering the >horse much– jus makes more work for him. But if it goes a few inches ahead on a >downhill trail, it is on his withers and he is in pain. He will either shorten >his stride and really stick his back feet under or try to jog out from under the >saddle. A little farther forward and you can be spitting rocks out of yer mouth >cause falling down hill you can really get up some momentum. I have used >cruppers off and on mostly depending on the saddle. My experience might be >different since I am a sorry excuse, and because I have not bothered to tighten >the cinch much.

Also I see a lot of cruppers in Miller paintings, but I do not see breast >collars on riding stock. Can someone enlighten me with documentation?

On another note, Jerry Zaslow referred to a description of the saddle that >Jed procured in California. Can someone let me know where to find that >source.

Thank You

> - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:42:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Newbill Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Travois, and Barbs On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Mike Rock wrote: > Anyone else ever use a travois for any distance?? I am going to build > one like we had in the fifties and am looking for any others with > memories of how the poles lashed over the withers and if there was a > strap or something up there to support the load. Any ideas on how a > load of tipi poles travels... Mike I was just a browsing through a borrowed copy of "man made mobile" the other day, and I believe there is an illustration in there of the rigging used to hook the poles over the woman's saddle. I am still waiting for my very own personal copy to get here via the banana boat it was undoubtably sent on.. .around the horn no doubt, so I can't quote you chapter and verse... but other folks can! No Barbs in this kids pasture, just Palouse Ponies... aka Appalousa's Your Most Obedient Servant... Lee Newbill of North Idaho Clerk of the Hog Heaven Muzzleloaders www.geocities.com/northscribe - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:20:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry & Barbara Zaslow Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Saddles & Such Wynn, I'm far from an expert but I try to follow what others who are much more knowledgeable on the topic have told me. You may already know all this and if you do, please bare with me. First of all a horse should not carry more that 1/4 it's weight. This means that a 1000 lb. horse should only carry 250 lbs. I estimate my horse to weigh about 1100 lbs. That means I can carry 275 lbs. maximum (which includes me.) As of yet, I have not gone out on an overnight with him yet where I have ridden in, but will within a couple of weeks. I have gone to a lot of events were I trailered him in but not where only what I could take was on him. When I have loaded him up for an all day ride where I wanted to simulate what I would take on an overnight trip, this is what I have done and he didn't have any problems. I weigh about 200 lbs. which means I should carry no more than 75 lbs. of gear. My saddle and tack weighs about 35 - 40 lbs. (this includes the 2 saddle blankets that I sleep in.) My gun and shooting bag weighs 10 lbs. The rest of my gear is about 15 lbs. The kind of stuff I carry is a tin cup with lid and light oil cloth poncho (both tied on to the saddle), spoon, small steel folding frying pan, 30 feet of extra rope, fire starting kit, an extra shirt, wool socks, light center seam mocs, light extra pair pants (I think they are muslin) and wool shirt. That stuff is in the saddle bags. This means that I should carry no more than 10 lbs. of food which is carried in the cantle bags. This includes a small tin of grease, sack of corn cakes mix (1 cup corn meal, 1 cup white flour, 1/4 cup sugar), sack of dried rice and beans, jerky or salt pork, some dried fruit and a couple of cakes of Mexican chocolate. That's it and probably missed some stuff. That is what I've learned from some of the best (Bob Schmidt, Dick Patton, Richard Ashburn and a host of others.) Hope that helps. Best Regards, Jerry (Meriwether) Zaslow #1488 ________________________________________________________________________________ At 10:58 AM 07/23/2000 -0600, you wrote: >As long is the saddle subject is up, can you give me any advice on carrying personal items on a riding horse. The two options I can see are wrapping everything in the blanket or using a "trap sack". Have wondered about rolling the blanket with a piece of canvas for a ground cloth also. Didn't think there was much stuff to take until I piled it all together. Now I am starting to wonder if food is really necessary. > >YMOS > >WY > >PS If anyone can tell me how to get rid of all the computer crap that follows all my posts please E-mail the process to me. Write slowly computerese is a second language to me. > > > > > > > > >

As long is the saddle subject is up, can you give me any advice on carrying >personal items on a riding horse. The two options I can see are wrapping >everything in the blanket or using a "trap sack". Have wondered about rolling >the blanket with a piece of canvas for a ground cloth also. Didn’t think there >was much stuff to take until I piled it all together. Now I am starting to >wonder if food is really necessary.<G>

YMOS

PS If anyone can tell me how to get rid of all the computer crap that follows >all my posts please E-mail the process to me. Write slowly computerese is a >second language to me.

> - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:34:19 +0100 From: "Bob Schmidt" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Saddles and Such To use gunny sack as hobbles: Open 'both' ends of the sack and put one hoof (attached to a leg) of the animal through the sack. Twist the sack until you have enough opening to put the other hoof through the other opening. This works very well and you will not injure the animal. Martingales and Cruppers: The Horse in Blackfoot Indian Culture by John C. Ewers.... Martingale and crupper had both practical and ostentatious value for the Blackfoot. They were used on the travois or pack horse to keep the load from slipping. Men generally used cruppers on riding horses only when traveling in mountainous country to hold the saddle in place. In this book they show a plain rawhide breast collar. They call this a Martingale. In Alfred Jacob Miller's drawing "Mule Equipment", there appears to be a breast collar on the mule. Also, Millers drawing "Trappers Starting for the Hunt" shows cruppers on the saddle mules. My personal preference is use of both the breast collar and crupper any time I ride, not just in the mountains. This has been my preference for 25 years. Hope this answers any questions you may have had. Bob Schmidt - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:33:27 -0700 From: "John C. Funk, Jr." Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Saddles & Such This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BFF541.750B08C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wynn, You don't mention what "Item" you wish to carry. There are saddle bags, = pommel bags and one could even sport a pack frame if necessary. John Funk - ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BFF541.750B08C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Wynn,

You don't mention what "Item" you wish to = carry. There=20 are saddle bags, pommel bags and one could even sport a pack frame if=20 necessary.

John Funk

- ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BFF541.750B08C0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:39:03 -0500 From: Matt Porter Subject: MtMan-List: Awl-for-All Ho the List! Does anyone have any experience with the Awl-for-All? Should I waste my money on it? I know it's not the least bit authentic, but I would also like to use for things around the house. Thanks. YMHS Matt Porter Located in a hot and humid thicket in Sardis, Arkansas. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:46:00 -0700 From: "John C. Funk, Jr." Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Awl-for-All What on earth is it? - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:04:22 -0400 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: MtMan-List: Traders Row Page Last year, I started a TRADERS ROW page for some of you to put items on sale. I'd like to expand it to these three lists. The page is set up and ready to go. All you have to do is email me a photo of the item (if you have one, and/or a GOOD description of what you want to sell, and I'll put it on the page. The URL is: www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Geyser/3216/tradersrow.htm While you are there, check out my web site :) Let me know if any of you re interested in continuing this. Its not a problem for me to do it. It's sort of a "labor of love" for all the help I have gotten from the lists. Ad Miller Alderson, WV - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:22:10 -0400 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: MtMan-List: Traders Row Page - OOPS!! OOPS!!! I goofed..... try this URL... Its been one of those days... Nothing poasted yet.... The URL is: www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Geyser/3216/trader.htm Ad Miller Alderson, WV - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:46:32 EDT From: OHilljack@cs.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Traders Row Page In a message dated 7/24/00 4:04:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, admiller@brier.net writes: > www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Geyser/3216/tradersrow.htm Hey Buddy I'd like to look at it but that URL doesn't work, got a better one...How are you doin? and How is the Mrs. Mouse? I really miss you guys, I'm looking forward to Alafia...Were you serious about the hunting? I'm going to talk to Mark if you are and see if he is interested...Well get back to me on the URL;; Bill - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:50:52 -0500 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Awl-for-All Matt, The awl4all makes a looped chain type stitch that if the thread breaks (or wears through) at any point, the entire run of stitching will be lost. Its not only not authentic, it's not very useful. I had one many years ago. Don't waste your money. A pair of harness needles and separate awl is just as fast and many times more secure with a saddle stitch. For light leather use an appropriate glovers needle and a running stitch or whip stitch both of which are also superior to the awful-for-all stitch. Buy a big spool of linen thread and several papers of needles in various useful sizes and you'll be supplied for many years to come. John... At 02:39 PM 7/24/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Ho the List! > Does anyone have any experience with the Awl-for-All? Should I > waste my >money on it? I know it's not the least bit authentic, but I would also >like to use for things around the house. Thanks. > >YMHS >Matt Porter >Located in a hot and humid thicket in Sardis, Arkansas. >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without. John Kramer - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:37:11 -0700 From: "John C. Funk, Jr." Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Traders Row Page Ad, Tried to bring up your site w/o success, neither on Yahoo or MSN. John Funk - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:44:03 -0700 From: "John C. Funk, Jr." Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Traders Row Page - OOPS!! Ad, Made it...I've sent an item "For Sale" John Funk - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Newbill Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Saddles and Such Hallo The Camp.... Got a note from Mike Moore that I thought was worth sharing on horses, and he kindly agreed to let me share it.... as I told Mike, if it helps me, it might also benifit some other lurker Lee - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:01:50 -0600 From: Mike Moore I find that the learning curve with horses is short. A couple things happen and you say, "I'll never do that again." or "Let's modifiy what we did so it won't happen again." or "I think that we need to horse on the horse (and me) before doing anything like that again." And be careful, so many things can happen when a 2000 pound horse is involved, just freak accidents or minor injuries. In regards to your packing questions: Like you, I am always learning. And many people have alot more expereince than me. But it is hard to get all of our normal gear on a single horse and us too. That is why pack horses are nice. Helpful hints, Balance a canteen and a pistol (plus anything else) on the pommel which you need in a hurry. I keep a extra fire starting kit there. Really go functional on all other needs, one tip cup, a tin pot to boil and cook in, a collaspable canvas bucket, a canvas cover for a shelter and a bedroll (as small as you can get it) rolled up and put behind the horse on a set of saddle bags which holds all your misc. needs - extra sox, a shirt seasonings, food and mocs. Things which you can do to keep down the items needed= for your first trip do a one day or less traveling into camp. Have most of the stuff you need left in camp for you. Carry only the basics to start out (don't forget pouches and powder horns!) This will get you and the horse concertrated on the basics. Picture your self out just to have fun and when set up in camp, do day rides with your gear to work up and try things like where do like to carry the rifle and what is the best way to mount your beast with a rifle in one hand, all your pouches and horns. Some times I put a capote or canvas in front of me in the saddle I won't loose it as easily there. A bedroll can be divided up one blanket and cover in back, one under the saddle and a shelter cover in front. I usually have a small bag handy for trail food to snack on during the day. If you are riding with someone else, you pare down duplicates (you both don't need coffee pots and you can even use less blankets by sleeping together.) Different bags can be given to the individuals and that lessens the bulk you have, since two people need only slightly more than one. Hope I've helped on this long winded piece. I am always learning and will continue my riding, and equipement. I am still awed by the early men who came west and how they did it with few pieces of equipement. They improvised, used less and made do. And much we carry today (tent stakes, alot of cooking gear, they made on the trail, used and left) so they didn't have to carry it. hope this horses thing is a a good challenge to you, it always is to me. mike. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:40:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Newbill Subject: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark Education ***Warning*** This is a long message that deals with Education in our schools and the Lewis & Clark Corps of Discovery. It is intended for those that work with schools and such, and to fullfill a promise I made to Larry Pendleton. Your Most Obedient Servant... =20 Lee Newbill of North Idaho Clerk of the Hog Heaven Muzzleloaders www.geocities.com/northscribe ---------- Lee: here's the synopsis of the program... Introduction=20 In 1803 President Thomas Jefferson was pleasantly surprised by Napoleon's decision to sell the Louisiana Territory to the United States. Anxious to follow up on this fantastic turn of events and to determine what this meant to the country, Jefferson commissioned his secretary, Meriwether Lewis, to conduct an expedition to the Pacific coast. Primary purposes of the trip were to discover an all-water route to the Pacific and to protect the commercial interests of the US against foreign infringement. Jefferson was also keenly interested in the scientific prospects of the endeavor. He wondered if signs of the woolly mammoth, the giant sloth, dinosaurs, and other natural wonders would be found. While Lewis and Clark found that a water course route from coast to coast was not possible, their expedition excited the nation with their startling discoveries. The Lewis and Clark expedition discovered many new species of flora and fauna, completed a new map of the US from St. Louis to the mouth of the Columbia River, and provided an eye-witness account of the great Rocky Mountains. They also gained a great deal of knowledge about the cultures o= f the nations of Native Americans living along the trail. Their expedition opened the door for westward expansion and the growth of the new nation. This Lewis & Clark Rediscovery Project will also blaze new trails. Broad i= n scope, this project will provide teachers across the country with the skill= s and confidence to effectively employ technology in the classroom. The Rediscovery Project will provide teachers with an interdisciplinary framework in which to apply cutting-edge technology as students engage in their own "Re-discovery Project". Overview The Potlatch School District of Idaho, in collaboration with the Lewis and Clark Education Consortium Schools, is pleased to announce our successful bid to the US Department of Education=B9s "Technology Innovation Challenge Grants Program." The Lewis and Clark Rediscovery Project, which highlights the Lewis and Clark exploration of 1803-1805, offers an incredible opportunity to implement teacher professional development programs which will ultimately strengthen the educational system for both teachers and students. Through programs created under the Rediscovery Project, teachers will become better informed as to how they can maximize their use of educational technological capabilities. Both teachers and students in the initial consortium districts, as well as all subsequent partners will benefit from the Rediscovery Project. Teachers who implement these educational technological experiences will significantly further their students=B9 learning in a variety of disciplines. Consortium District Scho= ols (Lead Education Agencies =3D LEAs) include: Potlatch School District, Lewiston, ID; Lapwai School District, Lapwai, ID; Kamiah Joint School District, Kamiah, ID; Orofino School District, Orofino, ID, Kennewick School District, Kennewick, WA, Harriet Tubman Middle School, Portland, OR, Astoria Middle School, Astoria, OR, Golden Triangle Coalition= , Great Falls, MTKirn Middle School, Council Bluffs, IA; St. Charles School District, St. Charles, MO; Moundsville Schools, Moundsville, WV; Hunterdon Central Regional School District, Flemington, NJ. The Rediscovery Project presents a unique opportunity to implement interdisciplinary curricula that addresses national teaching and learning standards. The Rediscovery Project will integrate science, mathematics and technology with social science, language and graphic arts. In addition, the Rediscovery Project will focus on networking K-12 schools in the United States with each other and with schools along the Lewis-Clark trail (including many which have a significant number of Native American children). Professional Development Component A quality professional development program for teachers is central. The professional development component will be facilitated by teams from the University of Idaho=B9s Institute for Mathematics, Interactive Technology a= nd Science (IMITS) and by the Center for Educational Technologies (CET) at Wheeling Jesuit University. The goals of the professional development aspec= t of the Rediscovery Project are to provide teachers with a core of activities, content and strategies for best-practices in integrating scienc= e and the humanities in a collaborative social network. Further, and most importantly, the proposed Rediscovery Teacher Professional Development Workshops and Strategies will ensure the sustained, appropriate and integrated use of educational technologies in a collaborative, networked, and relevant program of local exploration of communities, culture and natural history. The Rediscovery Project is designed to complement, supplement, deepen and enhance teaching and learning and to accomplish the professional development educational technology goals of the U.S. Departmen= t of Education and the State's Departments of Education. Expected outcomes of the professional development component are an increase in teacher proficiency in: =85 the use of multimedia equipment and software, digital cameras, Quicktim= e VR and video capture; =85 investigative reporting and the use of the Internet as a research and publishing medium; process skills in the areas of anthropology, culture, and history; process skills in natural history and environmental sciences; and the appropriate and sustained use of communications and Internet technologies for cooperative learning. Features of the proposed Rediscovery Project include: collaboration with peer and mentor educators across the country; development of awareness, knowledge and working relations with state and local science and community agencies; the development of a social network of learners of all levels across the country with a re-invigorated awareness of human impacts on the land, ecosystems, and indigenous cultures throughout the growth of America= =B9s unique culture over the last 200 years. Rediscovery partners: The Lewis and Clark Rediscovery Project Potlatch School District The GLOBE Program Institute for Mathematics, Interactive Technology and Science at the University of Idaho Center for Educational Technologies at Wheeling Jesuit University University of Montana, GLOBE Franchise WEBSITE at: http://rediscovery.ed.uidaho.edu - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:47:59 -0700 From: "Thomas Ballstaedt" Subject: MtMan-List: babrbs This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFF668.DAEC1580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could the rarity in breast bands shown in period art work be, because on = a barb type horse the shoulders are slightly narrower than other breeds? = Therefore one's more immediate concern would be the saddle sliding = forward. Explaining the more often seen cruppers. Anybody have any = comments? - ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFF668.DAEC1580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could the rarity in = breast=20 bands shown in period art work be, because on a barb type horse the = shoulders are slightly narrower than other breeds? Therefore=20 one's more immediate concern would be the saddle sliding=20 forward. 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- ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFF66A.A129CA20-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:46:51 EDT From: JSeminerio@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: FESTIVAL OF THE AMERICAN FRONTIER , show & tell event FESTIVAL OF THE AMERICAN FRONTIER SAT & SUN August 5 & 6 Big Indian Valley Park Rt. 28 Big Indian NY info Call Frank Stapleton (914) 254-4238 Small show and tell event of some nice folks in a really nice part of the State. If you're not busy come on by. Soldiers, mountain man, crafters and sutlers will all be there. So, will I - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #596 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.