From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #802 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Saturday, May 19 2001 Volume 01 : Number 802 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Walnut dye -       MtMan-List: Western Territorial on the Land -       Re: MtMan-List: Walnut dye -       Re: MtMan-List: Walnut dye -       WAS Re: MtMan-List: Walnut dye NOW red ochre -       Re: MtMan-List: Walnut dye ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 15:24:59 -0600 From: Charlie Webb Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Walnut dye Joe, I collect my walnut hulls in the fall while they are still green, by the time I finish all my dye work they have dried out to a dirty brownish green color. The hull color doesn't seem to make any difference about the quality of your finished dyed items. I have a big bowl shaped enameled container that I fill approximately 2/3 full with walnut hulls and then fill the container with hot water, place it on the stove and let simmer to a boil for several hours. Take of stove and pour the liquid, not the hulls into another container. I use five gallon plastic buckets buckets because they are free to cheap to come by. Put the hulls back on the stove and begin the simmer process again. Keep adding a few fresh hulls to the already cooked ones and pouring the liquid into your main container and letting it cool. Once you have as much of the cooked liquid you think you will need and it is cooled, you are ready to go. ( be sure to strain the big stuff out of your liquid using window screening or something like it.) Next loosely add your shirt or whatever. I always do dye work in the shade, and stir the garment in the liquid three of four times a day, the process continues until you have the color you want. I have left some linen in for two weeks. When it is somewhat darker than you want take it out and wash it out under running water. I f you like what you see, place the garment for 30 minutes or so, ( not critical) in white vinegar to set the color ( a mordant ). Wash out again, dry and wear. There are other ways, and mordants, but this is simple and has worked for me for over fifty years. To get a camouflage effect leave a few hulls in your liquid, where they come in contact with the fabric they create a darker mottled effect and does much to break up an outline in hostile country. Respectfully, Cwebb Aka Old Coyote. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 17:05:19 -0600 From: Ferrell A Peterson Subject: MtMan-List: Western Territorial on the Land I just came back from the doin's on the land. I just wanted to let the members know what a beautiful place it is. I wanted to stay longer, but a job interview cut it way too short. It took a little bit of doin to get in, but once there, I found it to be an absolutely beautiful place. I found myself just stopping to look at the cliffs and mountains. The pictures and eloquent descriptions just don't do justice to how beautiful the place is. On Monday, four golden eagles were circling around, checking us out. It's good to have such neighbors. What a great place. I think that this land will be a great resource for the AMM. My hat is off to Capitaine George, Bill Cunningham, Bob Loyd, and the others who made this possible. We cleaned out a few of the springs and restored the flow. It's good potable water. There is plenty of wood for the campfire. When I left, the boys were digging out the old "dugout" building. It's exciting to be a part of this. I hope many more of you get the chance to experience the land. I want get back and help some more--and to experience the serenity. YMOS Otter - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:04:34 EDT From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Walnut dye In a message dated 5/16/1 08:17:03 AM, kierst@taosnet.com writes: << I'd like to dye my cotton shirt brown, using pre-1840 methods, of course. Walnut dye seems to be my best bet, but I have no clue how to go about it. Any help would be much appreciated.>> I know you have had some replies on use of the shells. If you want a Confederate variation . . . take a bunch of rusty iron things you want to clean up. Soak them in vinegar until the crud loosens, then, wearing rubber gloves, use a wire brush and clean off the crud into the vinegar soak where the parts have been. When you get the parts clean, save the cruddy vinegar and add the whole to the boiled down walnut shell water. This gives you the modrant and that "ironized" vinegar does NOT wash out. I have splashed on and ruined several cotton shirts from this concoction. The combination was used to produce the "butternut" color used for many Confederate uniforms. They had no franchise, however. ANYbody who wanted had used that formula for years before the war and continued after. It gives you the color with a chance for various shades and historic correctness all in one pot. Richard James - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:09:19 EDT From: ThisOldFox@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Walnut dye > I know you have had some replies on use of the shells. If you want a > Confederate variation . . . take a bunch of rusty iron things you want to > clean up. I would think another Confederate variation would be to throw the shirt into a mud puddle of that red dirt they have down there. I know some of my Army laundry turned brown after a stint at Ft. Benning. (Authentic red ochre ?) TOF - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:25:11 EDT From: HikingOnThru@cs.com Subject: WAS Re: MtMan-List: Walnut dye NOW red ochre In a message dated 5/16/01 10:10:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ThisOldFox@aol.com writes: << I would think another Confederate variation would be to throw the shirt into a mud puddle of that red dirt they have down there. I know some of my Army laundry turned brown after a stint at Ft. Benning. (Authentic red ochre ?) >> I like that idea...I have a yard full of "authentic red ochre" for trade!!!!!!!! - -C.Kent - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 11:03:02 EDT From: TrapRJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Walnut dye - --part1_23.bf58580.2837e526_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can buy walnut hulls ready for dyeing at any trapping supply dealer Joe - --part1_23.bf58580.2837e526_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can buy walnut hulls ready for dyeing at any trapping supply dealer


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