From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #817 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, June 17 2001 Volume 01 : Number 817 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Period Shovels -       Re: MtMan-List: Period Shovels -       Re: MtMan-List: Period Shovels -       MtMan-List: AMM Nationals ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:36:28 -0700 From: "John Funk" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Period Shovels This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F51A.12151420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lanny, Well, actually not. I was trying to see what current prices were on = "shovels"...as I have one for sale and can't remember what the hell I = paid for I this one I have. Bought it about 5 years ago. Used it, = maybe, 6 times and don't need it in all reality. =20 So, if your interested, let me know............or if you know of any = one.......It's like new and in good shape. Made very well. Thanks for your response, John Funk ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lanney Ratcliff=20 To: History List=20 Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 6:48 PM Subject: Fw: MtMan-List: Period Shovels Perhaps this is what you need. If not.......oh,well Lanney Ratcliff ARROWHEAD FORGE, RR1 BOX 25 WILMOT SD 57279,=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: CTOAKES@aol.com=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:48 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Period Shovels In a message dated 6/11/01 9:28:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 ghickman9@home.com writes:=20 Do you have a website or address for Arrowhead?=20 Sorry I gave the catalog to someone and have not needed it as the = stuff I got=20 from them hasn't broken. I will look in Smoke and Fire when I am at = home=20 tonight maybe the info is in there.=20 Sorry I can't help.=20 Y.M.O.S.=20 C.T. Oakes=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F51A.12151420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lanny,
Well, actually not.  I was trying to see what = current=20 prices were on "shovels"...as I have one for sale and can't remember = what the=20 hell I paid for I this one I have.  Bought it about 5 years = ago.  Used=20 it, maybe, 6 times and don't need it in all reality. 
 
So, if your interested, let me know............or if = you know=20 of any one.......It's like new  and in good shape.  Made = very=20 well.
Thanks for your response,
John Funk
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lanney=20 Ratcliff
To: History List
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 = 6:48=20 PM
Subject: Fw: MtMan-List: Period = Shovels

Perhaps this is what you need.  If=20 not.......oh,well
Lanney Ratcliff
 
ARROWHEAD FORGE, RR1 BOX 25 WILMOT = SD 57279,=20
 
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: CTOAKES@aol.com
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Period Shovels

In a = message dated=20 6/11/01 9:28:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ghickman9@home.com writes: =


Do you have a website or address for Arrowhead? =

Sorry I gave the = catalog to=20 someone and have not needed it as the stuff I got
from them hasn't = broken.=20  I will look in Smoke and Fire when I am at home
tonight = maybe the=20 info is in there.

Sorry I can't help.

Y.M.O.S. =

C.T.=20 Oakes - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F51A.12151420-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 06:49:51 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Period Shovels This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C0F567.605CB960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Funk wrote: Lanny, Well, actually not. I was trying to see what current prices were on = "shovels"...as I have one for sale and can't remember what the hell I = paid for I this one I have. Bought it about 5 years ago. Used it, = maybe, 6 times and don't need it in all reality. =20 =20 So, if your interested, let me know............or if you know of any = one.......It's like new and in good shape. Made very well. Thanks for your response, John Funk John Bring it to the rendezvous. Somebody will buy it..... Lanney - ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C0F567.605CB960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John Funk wrote:
Lanny,
Well, actually not.  I was trying to see what = current=20 prices were on "shovels"...as I have one for sale and can't remember = what the=20 hell I paid for I this one I have.  Bought it about 5 years = ago.  Used=20 it, maybe, 6 times and don't need it in all reality. 
 
So, if your interested, let me know............or if = you know=20 of any one.......It's like new  and in good shape.  Made = very=20 well.
Thanks for your response,
John Funk
 
John
Bring it to the rendezvous.  Somebody will buy it.....
Lanney
- ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C0F567.605CB960-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 22:59:49 -0400 From: tom roberts Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Period Shovels My own experience, admittedly limited, leads me to recall that there ain't too much Rocky Mountain terrain readily dug with a shovel. Picks, iron bars, etc., likely much more effective. Just my 2 cents, Tom Victoria Pate wrote: > > On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:52:19 -0500 John Kramer > writes: > > Damn; I hate these questions. > > > I have been digging around since this question came up and can find > > no listings for shovels or spades in trade lists, supply lists, > > equipment inventories or blacksmith journals of the period in the > region. > > Lots of iron was traded and transported so the making of shovels wasn't > > > impossible, but, to date I haven't found any listings for same. > > One of my favorite books on the Fur Trade Era is "This Reckless > Breed of Men-The Trappers and Fur Traders of the Southwest" > by Robert Glass Cleland. > > Here is an excerpt from pages 136-137 of the 1963 edition: > > "Many important merchant of New Orleans and the Atlantic > coast consigned their shipments for the West and the Santa > Fe trade to St. Louis houses such as Chouteau, Pratte & > Company. Much of the goods came up the Mississippi from > New Orleans or down the Ohio from Pittsburgh and Louisville. > The cargoes, extraordinarily mixed and varied, included: > > > .......files,.....spades,......shovels,.......scythes,...saws......." > > The reference for these items and others is from the > bills of lading and receipts of Henry P. Chouteau in the > A. Chouteau Collection, Missouri Historical Society MSS. > > Beins Chouteau was involved in the RMFT, is it > reasonable to assume some of these shovels > made it to Rendezvous? > > Victoria > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 05:43:03 -0700 From: "Larry Huber" Subject: MtMan-List: AMM Nationals This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C0F6F0.60515220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm driving the iron mule to the AMM Nationals in Idaho from the Los = Angeles area. I'll be leaving on the first weekend and I have room for = a couple of brothers and their gear (no horses) who are heading that way = and would like to ride along. I could use the company and some help = with the rising gas prices. You boys from Nevada, Arizona and Utah are = welcome if you want to transport yourself to my place for the ride up = and back. I gotta be back in LA on the 7th for a wedding so it'll be = about 4-5 days on site. Email me back or pass the word along to those = still using 19th century technology. Thanks, Larry Huber #1517 - ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C0F6F0.60515220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm driving the iron mule to the AMM = Nationals in=20 Idaho from the Los Angeles area.  I'll be leaving on the first = weekend=20 and I have room for a couple of brothers and their gear (no horses) who = are=20 heading that way and would like to ride along.  I could use the = company and=20 some help with the rising gas prices.  You boys from Nevada, = Arizona and=20 Utah are welcome if you want to transport yourself to my place for the = ride up=20 and back.  I gotta be back in LA on the 7th for a wedding so it'll = be about=20 4-5 days on site.  Email me back or pass the word along to those = still=20 using 19th century technology.
 
Thanks,
 
Larry Huber = #1517
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