From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #838 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Friday, August 3 2001 Volume 01 : Number 838 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language -       Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language -       MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark related item -       Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language -       MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language -       MtMan-List: Flame Retardant Canvas -       MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836? -       Re: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836? -       Re: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836? -       Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language -       Re: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836? -       Re: MtMan-List: List for Women -       Re: MtMan-List: List for Women -       Re: MtMan-List: List for Women -       Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:06:22 -0700 From: "larry pendleton" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language Tom, Invent a sign? Can we do that? >>I dunno. Until someone comes up with the proper sign, I don't see why not. Pendleton - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 18:36:07 -0700 From: "pat broehl" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language Greetings, My opinion paralels those who consider Clark's as more liberal and flexable, as language should be. or at least could be. As long as it gets the job done or the message across it is working. People are making up new words all the time as the need arises. Those of us on the receiving end that can figure out what is being communicated will get the message. Those that have no capacity for variables will not. Spelling,pronunciation, punctuation, etc. are important enuff to some that it will hender the conversation when it is less than perfect. Others may just go with the flow. Adding words, modifying signs and adapting speach are all part of the process. That's just my opinion. Itsaquain >Tom, > >Invent a sign? Can we do that? > > >>I dunno. Until someone comes up with the proper sign, I don't see why >not. > >Pendleton > > > > > > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:09:52 -0400 (EDT) From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (Jon Marinetti) Subject: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark related item [USA Today, Tues. 07-31-01, p.7A] South Dakota: Vermillion -- On the hill where explorers Lewis & Clark stood nearly 200 years ago, a ceremony marked the dedication of Spirit Mound as the newest acquisition by the state parks department. A check for $600,000 was presented to complete the purchase of 320 acres of farmland, which will be returned to its natural state. Lewis and Clark journals indicate they climbed the mound on Aug.25, 1804. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from Michigan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:51:47 EDT From: LivingInThePast@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language In a message dated 8/1/01 6:37:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, patbroehl@hotmail.com writes: << People are making up new words all the time as the need arises. Those of us on the receiving end that can figure out what is being communicated will get the message. Those that have no capacity for variables will not. >> Good point; in all peoples and all languages. I'm thinking it's called slang, no? Sometimes it's even later incorporated into the base language, as the medical profession recently did with fart! Barney - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 22:26:23 -0600 From: "Gretchen Ormond" Subject: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language >Larry, ?Invent a sign? Can we do that? >Tom Theyed a used it if theyed a had it. Wynn Ormond - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:26:22 -0500 From: "Best, Dianne" Subject: MtMan-List: Flame Retardant Canvas This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C11B6F.DE66BF80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I used to travel with a big old wall tent, about 14 by 16 feet, 100% cotton, that I water-proofed periodically with paraffin wax dissolved in Naphtha gas (a process I did in the middle of an open field with no sources of ignition!!!) I always worried about the flammability of that tent because I often lived in it for long periods of time. I had it up one day with very little stuff inside it when a big bright ember from the fire spit up on the roof of the tent. Well, seemed like a good time to test the burning qualities so I just stood and watched it. The paraffin and cotton burned with a purdy little flame, just like a candle wick, around the ember until the ember burned through and fell inside. Then the flame on the canvas went out! I guess there was enough paraffin in the cotton that it smothered the flame without the extra heat of the ember to keep it going. I slept a lot sounder after that! (I have seen modern tents burn and I'll tell you boys - I WONT GO IN 'EM!! Give me my good old cotton tent with lots of paraffin!) - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C11B6F.DE66BF80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Flame Retardant Canvas

I used to travel with a big old = wall tent, about 14 by 16 feet, 100% cotton, that I water-proofed = periodically with paraffin wax dissolved in Naphtha gas (a process I = did in the middle of an open field with no sources of = ignition!!!)

I always worried about the = flammability of that tent because I often lived in it for long periods = of time. I had it up one day with very little stuff inside it when a = big bright ember from the fire spit up on the roof of the tent. Well, = seemed like a good time to test the burning qualities so I just stood = and watched it. The paraffin and cotton burned with a purdy little = flame, just like a candle wick, around the ember until the ember burned = through and fell inside. Then the flame on the canvas went out! I guess = there was enough paraffin in the cotton that it smothered the flame = without the extra heat of the ember to keep it going. I slept a lot = sounder after that!

(I have seen modern tents burn = and I'll tell you boys - I WONT GO IN 'EM!! Give me my good old cotton = tent with lots of paraffin!)

- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C11B6F.DE66BF80-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:22:40 -0400 From: "Tim Jewell" Subject: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836? Hello the camp, I was just browsing the Track of the Wolf website. In their Tents section they show a Baker style lean-to and in the description it says "...replicates an original lean-to shown in a French fur trappers chalk print, drawn on the plains in 1836." Has anyone seen this chalk print or have any further information about it? Tim - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:56:49 -0700 From: "larry pendleton" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836? Tim, I haven't seen it. I thought Bakers were circa WWI era. Do they call it a Baker ? A Whelen is similar to a Baker. I think. I don't care for either one. Takes too many poles to set up. Pendleton Hello the camp, I was just browsing the Track of the Wolf website. In their Tents section they show a Baker style lean-to and in the description it says "...replicates an original lean-to shown in a French fur trappers chalk print, drawn on the plains in 1836." Has anyone seen this chalk print or have any further information about it? Tim - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 17:52:52 -0500 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836? A Baker, circa 1853, is 1/2 of a wall tent with an attached fly. A Whelen is a completely different type of lean-to attributed to Colonel Townsend Whelen, circa 1925. I am not aware of any documentation for either being correct to our period of interest. A Baker takes 5 to 12 poles, a Whelen requires 0 to 3. John... At 04:56 PM 8/2/01 -0700, you wrote: >Tim, > I haven't seen it. I thought Bakers were circa WWI era. Do they call it >a Baker ? A Whelen is similar to a Baker. I think. I don't care for >either one. Takes too many poles to set up. >Pendleton > >Hello the camp, > >I was just browsing the Track of the Wolf website. In their Tents section >they show a Baker style lean-to and in the description it says >"...replicates an original lean-to shown in a French fur trappers chalk >print, drawn on the plains in 1836." Has anyone seen this chalk print or >have any further information about it? > >Tim > > > > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without. John Kramer - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:43:10 -0700 From: "larry pendleton" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language Theyed a used it if theyed a had it. Wynn Ormond Damn ! Wynn you coulda gone all summer without adding that phrase ! Pendleton - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:41:16 -0400 From: "Tim Jewell" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry pendleton" > Tim, > I haven't seen it. I thought Bakers were circa WWI era. Do they call it > a Baker That's what I thought, but the date they give for the drawing is definitely 1836. 'Course without knowing anything about the drawing or the artist it's still not enough to draw a definite conclusion. I just found it interesting and maybe something more to check out. I'm going to try sending an email to TOW and see if they can tell me anything more. Tim - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 07:35:15 -0700 From: "Ole B. Jensen" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: List for Women Ladies, I remember some time ago that there was a period discussion group for Women, is this correct and how can one get on it? I have a Lady that is new and want's to learn. YMOS Ole # 718 PS. Magpie don't go there! - ---------- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:16:18 -0400 From: manbear Subject: Re: MtMan-List: List for Women There are two lists that my wife is on. 18cWoman@yahoogroups.com and 19cWomen@yahoogroups.com To subscribe to them go to: 18cWoman-subscribe@yahoogroups.com 19cWoman-subscribe@yahoogroups.com YMOS Manbear "Ole B. Jensen" wrote: > Ladies, > I remember some time ago that there was a period discussion group for Women, > is this correct and how can one get on it? I have a Lady that is new and > want's to learn. > YMOS > Ole # 718 > PS. Magpie don't go there! > ---------- > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:15:10 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: List for Women In a message dated 8/3/01 6:38:40 AM, olebjensen@earthlink.net writes: << I have a Lady that is new and want's to learn. YMOS Ole # 718 PS. Magpie don't go there! >> Gawd....I just bit my tongue! Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:50:59 -0500 From: "BRAD" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth Some of you may know of this sight already, but I found it quite interesting. Tells a lot about egyptian cotton and oilcloth.http://www.tentsmiths.com/page34f.htm Trapper, Trek'n through time, backwards! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Victoria Pate To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth > > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:33:34 -0700 "Randal Bublitz" > writes: > > > > Magpie, I'm ignorant on fine sheets and such. Is egyptian > > cotton readily available? > > Randy, > Egyptian cotton has been readily available for say, > oh..... 'bout 5K years. > Egyptian cotton sheets can be found at the finer department > stores. You can also buy Egyptian cotton fabric. Look > on the net for both. > > Victoria > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #838 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.