From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Re: Oh My Good... Date: 01 Oct 1997 02:38:57 -0400 At 07:49 PM 9/30/97 -0500, Debi wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>plans for some sort of romantic scenario and they're going to backfire. >The clue: "Laura Petrie." > >Gee the only thing I can think of is when Laura got her toe stuck in the >bathtub...can't see how they would pull that one off...I can't remembers >that many "romantic" scenes between Rob and Laura. Yeah, back in those days they had to have separate beds! I once read that back then, if a man and a woman were in a bed together, at least one of them had to have a foot on the floor. I think the "Laura" clue has to do with the comic mishap, not with romance. On RATSA, they've been trying to figure out if the bathtub one could fit somehow. There is another possibility that's been suggested. Somebody pointed out the circumstances of Rob and Laura Petrie's wedding. It had to be postponed twice due to Rob's ailments, and I believe it finally took place in Rob's hospital room. Hmmmmm. No, I'm not suggesting that an actual wedding is going to take place, but I suppose that *could* be Lucy's intention. Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jesaker@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 01 Oct 1997 08:36:17 -0500 (CDT) On 09/30/97 20:07:08 taiyin wrote: >>Either way... at least he's not in a coma for weeks. >on wood> and rika concurred: >I know! He's got quite a streak going - nine consecutive episodes, I >think, and there was only one where he was unconscious for the whole >episode. well...i HOPE you're both right. but did anyone see the pc promo during yesterday's gh? it showed a scene--and i'm not sure if it was a new one or a repeat of last week's--that looked an awful lot like greg cooper once again causing trouble for kevin, medically. it seemed too similar in method to actually be a new scene--but it somehow looked different to me from what i had seen last week. anybody know if it was last week's scene or a new one? julie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 01 Oct 1997 11:25:32 -0400 At 08:36 AM 10/1/97 -0500, julie wrote: >well...i HOPE you're both right. but did anyone see the pc promo during >yesterday's gh? it showed a scene--and i'm not sure if it was a new one or >a repeat of last week's--that looked an awful lot like greg cooper once >again causing trouble for kevin, medically. it seemed too similar in >method to actually be a new scene--but it somehow looked different to me >from what i had seen last week. anybody know if it was last week's scene >or a new one? I haven't managed to see the promo yet, but I recall that a couple of weeks ago, when Kevin and Lucy had the beautiful love scene, the promo contained clips that were apparently cut from the episode. They were obviously from the scenes we saw, but the specific clips in the promo were not shown in the actual episode. So the same thing might have happened with this promo. Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jesaker@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 01 Oct 1997 11:23:10 -0500 (CDT) On 10/01/97 11:25:32 rika wrote: > >I haven't managed to see the promo yet, but I recall that a couple of weeks >ago, when Kevin and Lucy had the beautiful love scene, the promo contained >clips that were apparently cut from the episode. They were obviously from >the scenes we saw, but the specific clips in the promo were not shown in >the actual episode. So the same thing might have happened with this promo. > good point! i remember that too (although i had forgotten!) thanks--that makes me feel better. hope that's all it is. because i REALLY think yet another "cooper puts kevin in danger" scenario would be MORE than a tad redundant at this point. not to mention just plain MEAN! :) julie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 01 Oct 1997 14:27:23 -0700 >well...i HOPE you're both right. but did anyone see the pc promo during >yesterday's gh? it showed a scene--and i'm not sure if it was a new one or >a repeat of last week's--that looked an awful lot like greg cooper once >again causing trouble for kevin, medically. Actually Julie, I watched that promo twice to be sure and I think those shots of Cooper tampering with Kevin were the ones that already aired. The whole promo was more all-encompassing than just Kevin, it was about Jake and Danielle's plan, too. So I think those were just recycled shots. And, did anyone else yell, "About damn time!" when Jake suggested telling Kevin (the "reasonable guy") and getting his help to convince Scott and Lucy that they were on the level to help them nab Rex? Sheesh! Finally! I was thinking about something, though: Rex is a brilliant, Jake is supposed to be brilliant, and we know that Kevin is brilliant, right? Imagine if the new writers actually USE that and have the three of them in this dizzying little round robin trying to out maneuver each other in some over-sized chess match. I might actually be able to start liking both Jake and Rex if that happened. And there is nothing I enjoy more than Kevin playing mind games. And since we obviously know that Scott is no intellectual match for Rex, Kevin has to be the one to do it. And Jake has real potential for some serious redemption (in terms of making him interesting instead of pathetic) if they were to use him as part of that, too. Anyway, just my idle thoughts from 1:00 a.m.... Taiyin "Sacrifice yourself, my love slave." --"Oh, do with me what you will." -- Lucy & Kevin, GH ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: K&L: Links Date: 01 Oct 1997 18:50:28 -0700 Sorry about cross-posting, but I would like some h*lp: I just finished building a new GH/PC Link site today: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9479/links.html (with a mirror site at http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/lighthouse/links/links.html) If some of you have the chance, could you please check it out and let me know if you know of any sites that I am missing? Thanks! Taiyin "Sacrifice yourself, my love slave." --"Oh, do with me what you will." -- Lucy & Kevin, GH ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 01 Oct 1997 23:54:58 -0400 At 02:27 PM 10/1/97 -0700, Taiyin wrote: >Actually Julie, I watched that promo twice to be sure and I think those >shots of Cooper tampering with Kevin were the ones that already aired. The >whole promo was more all-encompassing than just Kevin, it was about Jake >and Danielle's plan, too. So I think those were just recycled shots. I finally saw the promo today, and I agree with Taiyin. >And, did anyone else yell, "About damn time!" when Jake suggested telling >Kevin (the "reasonable guy") and getting his help to convince Scott and >Lucy that they were on the level to help them nab Rex? Sheesh! Finally! YES! Good GRIEF! Of course, that's such a typical way to create conflict. Come up with some lame reason why somebody keeps a secret instead of just being honest, and then let all hell break loose. But in this case it seemed especially dumb. The only ever-so-slight explanation was that Danielle was convinced that Rex was omnipresent; she might have convinced Jake that if he went to Kevin and spilled his guts, Rex would somehow know. And that might even be true. I'd love to know how much Rex knows about the opposition..... >I was thinking about something, though: Rex is a brilliant, Jake is >supposed to be brilliant, and we know that Kevin is brilliant, right? >Imagine if the new writers actually USE that and have the three of them in >this dizzying little round robin trying to out maneuver each other in some >over-sized chess match. I might actually be able to start liking both Jake >and Rex if that happened. It could be WONDERFUL. And Scott and Lucy could be useful too, perhaps not at that level of strategy, but certainly as additional chess pieces. >Anyway, just my idle thoughts from 1:00 a.m.... And fine thoughts they were! Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: K&L: Kevin and Lucy, the way they're supposed to be Date: 02 Oct 1997 00:31:34 -0400 On Tuesday and Wednesday, I thought Kevin and Lucy's scenes were "right" in a way they haven't exactly been since they came to PC. I've loved a lot of what they've done, but the dialogue hasn't been quite right much of the time. One thing I missed was that there used to be an undercurrent of what I can only describe as sexual warmth in their scenes - usually reinforced by subtle innuendo in their dialogue - and it's been largely missing. In addition, their scenes often didn't have quite enough humor. I'm not talking big laughs like Norma and Eve, but just funny little moments. Then on Tuesday, as I remarked on here, Kevin called Lucy "Bub." Wow, I thought, some writer on PC knows something about this couple! Taiyin pointed out it might have been Jon ad libbing. I figured, yeah, probably. But last night when I did the update, it all came clear. Michelle Val Jean, who apparently wrote a lot of the Kevin/Lucy scenes on GH, is evidently assisting in the head writer transition. On Tuesday and Wednesday, she was listed directly below the Cullitons in the writing credits. Aha. And sure enough, today, that sexual warmth I was missing was back. It was back in the Intensive Care Unit, for goodness sake! Kevin, afflicted with temporary double vision, imagining the prospect of *two* Lucys attempting to drive him wild. And his response when she promised to let him get some rest: "Too bad." It's such a subtle difference, but all I could say was, "Yeah. THAT sounds like Kevin and Lucy." The lighter moments were there too - Scott and Kevin saying, "Yes!" in unison (and in basically the same inflection) when Lucy refused to go home. Lucy tiptoeing in in the silly scarf. And so on. Plus, I admit it - I'm a sentimental fool - I said, "Awwwww....." when Lucy snuggled against Kevin and they settled down to sleep together. I don't believe for an instant that a real ICU would allow that, but I don't really care. It was a TOTALLY Lucy thing to do. We need to figure out a way to keep Val Jean on PC! Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jesaker@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 02 Oct 1997 08:59:12 -0500 (CDT) On 10/01/97 14:27:23 taiyin wrote: > >Actually Julie, I watched that promo twice to be sure and I think those >shots of Cooper tampering with Kevin were the ones that already aired. The >whole promo was more all-encompassing than just Kevin, it was about Jake >and Danielle's plan, too. So I think those were just recycled shots. i stand corrected. i saw it again yesterday and came to the same conclusion. thank god. (i had gotten confused because i glanced up quickly the first time i saw it, and somehow lumped together the scene of rex disarming the burglar alarm with the scenes of cooper in the hospital, and thought they were being presented as one scene.) >And, did anyone else yell, "About damn time!" when Jake suggested telling >Kevin (the "reasonable guy") and getting his help to convince Scott and >Lucy that they were on the level to help them nab Rex? Sheesh! Finally! yes, DEFINITELY! but i THINK i read somewhere that they're going to change their mind about that (presumably in response to lucy and scott's reaction yesterday, and kevin's condition). which means this nonsense could be dragged out QUITE a bit longer. >I was thinking about something, though: Rex is a brilliant, Jake is >supposed to be brilliant, and we know that Kevin is brilliant, right? >Imagine if the new writers actually USE that and have the three of them in >this dizzying little round robin trying to out maneuver each other in some >over-sized chess match. I might actually be able to start liking both Jake >and Rex if that happened. god, i HOPE so. because i was just thinking yesterday about how utterly unsatisfying i find ALL of the villains on this show. rex is WAY too smug and annoying for my taste, and chris is just INSUFFERABLE (and i hope somebody brings him DOWN...SOON!). devlin (who i guess TECHNICALLY isn't supposed to be a villian) annoys me with his attitude, and eve (who was ORIGINALLY being set up as rather villainous) i now just feel sorry for. if a show's going to go the villain route, they've got to go all out--not these caricatures of villains that we've been getting. and jake, i'm beginning to see a LITTLE potential in. (teeny TINY bit. i don't detest him as much as i DID.) danielle, however, i'm afraid is unredeemable. YUCK. julie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: K&L: H*lp!! Date: 02 Oct 1997 09:05:33 -0700 [Bounce. -- T.] I've been out of pocket the last couple of months and was wondering what is going on on PC. I haven't been able to watch it but I catch the previews and who is messing with Kevin in the hospital?? Basically, what is happening on PC? Lydia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 02 Oct 1997 09:17:46 -0700 Rika wrote: >YES! Good GRIEF! Of course, that's such a typical way to create conflict. You know, that's what annoys me about lazy writers. It's one thing to recycle a tired old plot, but at least give it a new and interesting/compelling twist. There was NOTHING original about that at all. >Danielle was convinced that Rex was omnipresent; she might have convinced >Jake that if he went to Kevin and spilled his guts, Rex would somehow know. > And that might even be true. I'd love to know how much Rex knows about >the opposition..... So would I. I did find it very... portentious, however, that it was Serena who noticed that someone had been in the lighthouse while Rex was hiding. Now, if the lighthouse crew would be as on the ball as Rex was, they'd be able to stop him before things go too hay-wire. Oh, and I also had another thought the other night: when I was little and my mom had envelopes that had to be sealed, she would always give them to me to do because she hated the taste. Wouldn't THAT be interesting, if SERENA was the one who got poisoned by Rex's little toy, instead of Scott? >It could be WONDERFUL. And Scott and Lucy could be useful too, perhaps not >at that level of strategy, but certainly as additional chess pieces. Absolutely! Lucy proved with Luke that she can handle/doesn't mind doing some of the grunt work. But Rex is such a sociopath, and if there is ANYTHING that Kevin knows about it's sociopathic behavior. And it could be the ideal chance to start ingraciating (sp?) Jake. Plus, it would be fun to watch him try and translate his 'lab rat' intelligence to practical, mind game, real life use. With Kevin's help, of course. >>Anyway, just my idle thoughts from 1:00 a.m.... > >And fine thoughts they were! Thankee, thankee. The only problem is that it gets me hoping for a storyline that isn't going to happen. Taiyin "Sacrifice yourself, my love slave." --"Oh, do with me what you will." -- Lucy & Kevin, GH ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jej104@aol.com Subject: K&L: Fwd: PC Update -- 9/22 - 9/26, 1997 Date: 02 Oct 1997 12:23:45 -0400 (EDT) --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: PC Update -- 9/22 - 9/26, 1997 PC Update -- 9/22 - 9/26, 1997 Karen finally gets around to Jagger's letter on Monday. He wants a divorce. Joe and Grace go to The Recovery Room. Eve has just thrown her drink in Ben's face. Ben: "I'd forgotten your penchant for cheap theatrics." He leaves, sticking Eve with the check. Eve calls the one person she can count on--Scotty. He shows up with Serena and offers to let her ride in the back of the pickup. Kevin slips out of Brenda's wedding (GH note: the wedding never happened--Sonny left Brenda standing at the altar.) to see Victor. Cooper hoists the dead priest into his bed, pours alcohol on some torn sheets and calls for the nurse before lighting the match.... After the explosion Kevin and Victor are unconcious in a rubble-filled room and smoke is coming through the door. Tuesday Karen is still reading the letter (the girl shouild take a speed-reading course) and Jagger goes on to admit his affair with Fran. Eve is depressed, but thanks Soctt for being a friend. Scott: "It's been kind of a dramatic night." Lucy hears on the news about the explosion at Forest Hills and rushes there. Frank and Julie have a fight about Bennet, but Frank is paged to FH before they can resolve it. Lucy channels her energy into her psychic link to Kevin and he awakens. (I know it sounds cheesy, but it was very well done--of course, I love it when they use Lucy's gift.) Frank shows up and helps Kevin get Victor out. A cleanshaven Cooper dressed as Fr. Wasaki offers to give last rites if needed. A cop tells Lucy that Kevin and Frank were out.... Lucy: "What do you mean he went back in?" Kevin finds Frank collapsed. Grace announces that Mercy is sending patients to GH. Lucy was sent there looking for Kevin. He walks in--but Frank has to be wheeled on a gurney. Wednesday Scott wants an explanation from Eve as to why he had to pick her up in Pleasant Valley. He supports her while she's upset. Eve: "Don't do that." Scott: "Do what?" Eve: "Be nice." Ellen rushes in to take Joe off Frank's case. Mike and Mary show up, having left the Q mansion. Mary wants to call her priest--Fr. Wasaki! Julie's worried about Frank. Grace tells her the "First words out of his mouth--where's Julie." Victor's okay. Kevin is snippy with Lucy, then has a dramatic mood swing to euphoria and gets down on one knee and proposes. Lucy says yes again. Ellen is convinced Kevin has a concussion. Lucy wants to go home and have a night with Doc, but his eyes roll back in his head and he collapses. Thursday Chris antagonizes Eve about her date with Bennet and Scott overhears. Frank's okay. Jake decides to go to NY after Danielle. Lucy wants Tony Jones to examine Kevin. She's upset. Lucy: "I don't want to hear about tests--I just want you to fix him!" Ellen tells her Kevin needs surgery ASAP. Friday Danielle has a newly shot flashback to the day she met Jake with the roller blades and ice cream trick, then how pleased Rex was with how it went. Jake finds her there and wants her to come back to PC. She's glad, she still loves him. Jake: "It's irrelevant." He just needs her help to stop Rex. Kevin has a subderral hematoma. Tony's not available. Lucy wants the best. Kevin: "Joe Scanlon's done this kind of thing. Anybody have a power drill?" Scott gets in Bennet's face for treating Karen badly. Eve sees and enjoys. Chris: "What was that?" Eve: "That was an incredibly gallant man coming to his daughter's defense." Though everyone's worried she's tired Karen is offered the chance to observe/assist in Kevin's surgery. Chris gets his hands on Jagger's letter. Rex breaks into the Lighthouse. Lucy's mad at Scott for going off on Bennet when she needs him to operate on Doc. She's still not relieved to have a famous surgeon on the case though. "I don't know. I just have this strange feeling. Something's not quite right--" (My bet: Kevin will recover, but there's a few weeks' storyline between now & then!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jej104@aol.com Subject: Re: K&L: H*lp!! Date: 02 Oct 1997 12:26:21 -0400 (EDT) PC Update -- 9/22 - 9/26, 1997 Karen finally gets around to Jagger's letter on Monday. He wants a divorce. Joe and Grace go to The Recovery Room. Eve has just thrown her drink in Ben's face. Ben: "I'd forgotten your penchant for cheap theatrics." He leaves, sticking Eve with the check. Eve calls the one person she can count on--Scotty. He shows up with Serena and offers to let her ride in the back of the pickup. Kevin slips out of Brenda's wedding (GH note: the wedding never happened--Sonny left Brenda standing at the altar.) to see Victor. Cooper hoists the dead priest into his bed, pours alcohol on some torn sheets and calls for the nurse before lighting the match.... After the explosion Kevin and Victor are unconcious in a rubble-filled room and smoke is coming through the door. Tuesday Karen is still reading the letter (the girl shouild take a speed-reading course) and Jagger goes on to admit his affair with Fran. Eve is depressed, but thanks Soctt for being a friend. Scott: "It's been kind of a dramatic night." Lucy hears on the news about the explosion at Forest Hills and rushes there. Frank and Julie have a fight about Bennet, but Frank is paged to FH before they can resolve it. Lucy channels her energy into her psychic link to Kevin and he awakens. (I know it sounds cheesy, but it was very well done--of course, I love it when they use Lucy's gift.) Frank shows up and helps Kevin get Victor out. A cleanshaven Cooper dressed as Fr. Wasaki offers to give last rites if needed. A cop tells Lucy that Kevin and Frank were out.... Lucy: "What do you mean he went back in?" Kevin finds Frank collapsed. Grace announces that Mercy is sending patients to GH. Lucy was sent there looking for Kevin. He walks in--but Frank has to be wheeled on a gurney. Wednesday Scott wants an explanation from Eve as to why he had to pick her up in Pleasant Valley. He supports her while she's upset. Eve: "Don't do that." Scott: "Do what?" Eve: "Be nice." Ellen rushes in to take Joe off Frank's case. Mike and Mary show up, having left the Q mansion. Mary wants to call her priest--Fr. Wasaki! Julie's worried about Frank. Grace tells her the "First words out of his mouth--where's Julie." Victor's okay. Kevin is snippy with Lucy, then has a dramatic mood swing to euphoria and gets down on one knee and proposes. Lucy says yes again. Ellen is convinced Kevin has a concussion. Lucy wants to go home and have a night with Doc, but his eyes roll back in his head and he collapses. Thursday Chris antagonizes Eve about her date with Bennet and Scott overhears. Frank's okay. Jake decides to go to NY after Danielle. Lucy wants Tony Jones to examine Kevin. She's upset. Lucy: "I don't want to hear about tests--I just want you to fix him!" Ellen tells her Kevin needs surgery ASAP. Friday Danielle has a newly shot flashback to the day she met Jake with the roller blades and ice cream trick, then how pleased Rex was with how it went. Jake finds her there and wants her to come back to PC. She's glad, she still loves him. Jake: "It's irrelevant." He just needs her help to stop Rex. Kevin has a subderral hematoma. Tony's not available. Lucy wants the best. Kevin: "Joe Scanlon's done this kind of thing. Anybody have a power drill?" Scott gets in Bennet's face for treating Karen badly. Eve sees and enjoys. Chris: "What was that?" Eve: "That was an incredibly gallant man coming to his daughter's defense." Though everyone's worried she's tired Karen is offered the chance to observe/assist in Kevin's surgery. Chris gets his hands on Jagger's letter. Rex breaks into the Lighthouse. Lucy's mad at Scott for going off on Bennet when she needs him to operate on Doc. She's still not relieved to have a famous surgeon on the case though. "I don't know. I just have this strange feeling. Something's not quite right--" (My bet: Kevin will recover, but there's a few weeks' storyline between now & then!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin and Lucy, the way they're supposed to be Date: 02 Oct 1997 09:29:30 -0700 Rika wrote: >Then on Tuesday, as I remarked on here, Kevin called Lucy "Bub." Wow, I >thought, some writer on PC knows something about this couple! Taiyin >pointed out it might have been Jon ad libbing. I figured, yeah, probably. Except that I said that before I saw it; the fact that Lucy had a line in response to that indicates that you were definitely right to begin with: somebody did their homework. >But last night when I did the update, it all came clear. Michelle Val >Jean, who apparently wrote a lot of the Kevin/Lucy scenes on GH, is >evidently assisting in the head writer transition. On Tuesday and >Wednesday, she was listed directly below the Cullitons in the writing >credits. Aha. Aha, is right! I didn't even notice that, as I fast forwarded throguh the credits. That WOULD help explain it; I agree that they've lacked a very intimate dimension to their relationship since they moved to PC. >temporary double vision, imagining the prospect of *two* Lucys attempting >to drive him wild. And his response when she promised to let him get some >rest: "Too bad." It's such a subtle difference, but all I could say was, >"Yeah. THAT sounds like Kevin and Lucy." That was my reaction, too. "Whoa! Whatta ya know? The REAL Kevin and Lucy return!!" >The lighter moments were there too - Scott and Kevin saying, "Yes!" in >unison (and in basically the same inflection) when Lucy refused to go home. That was almost a Kevin/Mac-ish moment. Which reminded me of something: during the Daytime Emmy's, when Jon, Lynn and Kin presented an award I noticed what a fabulous comedy trio they make. Only THEN it was Kin and Jon playing the 'straight men' and Lynn playing the goofball. But, seriously, they are all three so versital, that they could really rotate which one plays which role. Now if they'd just actually DO it. > Lucy tiptoeing in in the silly scarf. You know, I think THAT was probably the MOST quintessential, authentic moment of the ep. Kind of like Lucy walking around PC the day after the 1996 Nurses' Ball in glasses and a floppy hat thinking she could avoid being recognized. >And so on. Plus, I admit it - I'm >a sentimental fool - I said, "Awwwww....." when Lucy snuggled against Kevin >and they settled down to sleep together. I don't believe for an instant >that a real ICU would allow that, but I don't really care. It was a >TOTALLY Lucy thing to do. Yup, yup, yup! >We need to figure out a way to keep Val Jean on PC! Do you know if she was just supposed to be there for the transitioning, or is it possible she was moved to PC to write dialogue? I've always thought that PC needed seperate dialogue writers, like GH has. Maybe Wendy will keep her there. Taiyin "Sacrifice yourself, my love slave." --"Oh, do with me what you will." -- Lucy & Kevin, GH ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jesaker@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 02 Oct 1997 12:54:24 -0500 (CDT) On 10/02/97 09:17:46 taiyin wrote: >Oh, and I also had another thought the other night: when I was little and >my mom had envelopes that had to be sealed, she would always give them to >me to do because she hated the taste. Wouldn't THAT be interesting, if >SERENA was the one who got poisoned by Rex's little toy, instead of Scott? ooooh...i LIKE that! not that i want anything bad to happen to serena, of course--but what a GREAT twist that would be! can you IMAGINE how ballistic scott would go at that point! oh, why oh WHY aren't the writers are creative as YOU are, taiyin??? perhaps you'd like to begin a second career? like NOW??? prety please? :) >Thankee, thankee. The only problem is that it gets me hoping for a >storyline that isn't going to happen. yeah--and now you've got the REST of us doing it too! gee THANKS. julie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jesaker@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: K&L: H*lp!! Date: 02 Oct 1997 13:03:32 -0500 (CDT) On 10/02/97 09:05:33 lydia wrote: >I've been out of pocket the last couple of months and was wondering what is >going on on PC. I haven't been able to watch it but I catch the previews >and who is messing with Kevin in the hospital?? > >Basically, what is happening on PC? i'll give you the short answer--it's greg cooper (the psycho intern from the premiere, who held the others hostage) who's messing with kevin. he tricked a priest into coming to visit him at his psychiatric hospital, killed the priest, set off an explosion, and snuck out disguised as the priest. beyond that, i'd refer you to the summary somebody else sent! (or, if you have SPECIFIC questions, to ask them--i don't know about anybody else, but i can usually remember MUCH more if i have something to start with. like, "what happened with..." rather than just "what happened?" they say the mind's the first thing to go, y'know!) julie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 02 Oct 1997 11:01:55 -0700 >course--but what a GREAT twist that would be! can you IMAGINE how >ballistic scott would go at that point! Scott would kill him with his bare hands in front of half the town. >oh, why oh WHY aren't the writers >are creative as YOU are, taiyin??? perhaps you'd like to begin a second >career? like NOW??? prety please? :) Oh, I WISH. That was why I was a writing major at NYU. I wanted to write for television -- especially daytime. If I had stuck around I probably could have shanghaied an internship at ABC in NYC. Too bad I couldn't handle NYC for longer than one year. Then again, I seem to be in good company. ;-) >>Thankee, thankee. The only problem is that it gets me hoping for a >>storyline that isn't going to happen. > >yeah--and now you've got the REST of us doing it too! gee THANKS. Misery loves company. Taiyin GH/PC related mailing lists see Kevin & Lucy's Lighthouse: http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/lighthouse/front_door.html The Ultimate General Hospital/Port Charles Links Page: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9479/links.html "Chivalry is not only dead, it's condescending." -- Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jesaker@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 02 Oct 1997 13:29:47 -0500 (CDT) On 10/02/97 11:01:55 taiyin wrote: > >Oh, I WISH. That was why I was a writing major at NYU. I wanted to write >for television -- especially daytime. If I had stuck around I probably >could have shanghaied an internship at ABC in NYC. Too bad I couldn't >handle NYC for longer than one year. too bad indeed. but didn't you say you're in california now? get your butt over to their studios THERE! borrow some ideas from the pc premiere and hold all the WRITERS hostage! we'll all testify as character witnesses at your trial--if the judge is a gh/pc fan, he/she will SURELY understand it was justifiable! :) >Misery loves company. yeah--that seems to be why we're all here! lately, anyway... julie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 02 Oct 1997 11:45:23 -0700 At 01:29 PM 10/2/97 -0500, you wrote: >too bad indeed. but didn't you say you're in california now? get your >butt over to their studios THERE! borrow some ideas from the pc premiere >and hold all the WRITERS hostage! we'll all testify as character witnesses >at your trial--if the judge is a gh/pc fan, he/she will SURELY understand >it was justifiable! :) LOL. And if the judge isn't then I'm in hot water. Besides, I'm north of San Francisco. LA is a long ways off. Thanks for the vote of confidence, though. But that's why, especially at the moment, I stick to fanfic. Maybe that's what you should do, Julie. You should rewrite the end of Brenda and Sonny the way you would have prefered to see it. Which was something else I forgot to mention: I just set up the fic archive for the lists on my K&L Lighthouse page: http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/lighthouse/fanfiction/index.html It's pathetically empty because hardly anyone has been writing. So we gotta work on that. Also, I'll automatically archive stuff there. If you DON'T want it archived, let me know. And finally, some of the stuff that has been posted din't have titles originally, so in the archive I just gave them ones that sort of best fit the story. If you have one that you just forgot to put on it, then let me know and I'll change it. I don't like titling other people's sotries, because I get annoyed when someone else does that to me. So let me know. >>Misery loves company. > >yeah--that seems to be why we're all here! lately, anyway... Well, new writing regimes on BOTH shows, Julie. Just keep reminding yourself of that. Taiyin GH/PC related mailing lists see Kevin & Lucy's Lighthouse: http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/lighthouse/front_door.html The Ultimate General Hospital/Port Charles Links Page: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9479/links.html "Chivalry is not only dead, it's condescending." -- Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jesaker@ix.netcom.com Subject: K&L: semi-tan: guza humor Date: 02 Oct 1997 15:09:23 -0500 (CDT) sorry for the cross-post, but i can't remember which list i mentioned the gh top ten list page on. but regardless, this is one of the lists on the page (shamelessly cut-and-pasted without permission) that i found REALLY funny! oh, and about the first item on this list--the guy who runs this page is VIRULENTLY anti-robin...and this was written AGES ago, before the announcement of her return was made. enjoy! (i particularly liked numbers 16, 14, 5, 2 and 1) julie ************************************************************************** BOB GUZA's TOP 17 COMMENTS AT HIS FIRST WRITERS MEETING [17] "Before I unpack my bags, let me just confirm--Robin IS off the show now, right?" [16] "As far as I can deduce, someone here must have a Greek dictionary where TIMORIA is defined as 'stupid, lame-ass virus'...." [15] "Hey, look what I found while putting my umbrella in the coat closet-- STEFAN'S SPINE!" [14] "I simply must reject next week's script where Carly drop-kicks a newborn cocker spaniel puppy into a pool of boiling lava." [13] "...and look what I found next to Stefan's spine--MIRANDA'S CASSIDINE CONNECTION!" [12] "Well, after reviewing the tapes of the past 10 months, without a doubt the finest piece of writing done while I was away was where A.J. shaved off his goatee." [11] "Let's take a 10-minute break, gang...I understand Tony Geary has organized a parade out in the back lot. Free popcorn, too!" [10] "What the hell is Lucky waiting for?!?!?!" [9] "See, what I actually had in mind for Taggert and Garcia was--HOLY TOLEDO, GET A LOAD OF KRISTINA'S NEW HOOTERS!" [8] "I can almost buy Alan not loving A.J., but the Lila/Cook love scene you're suggesting is just plain WRONG." [7] "No, I simply refer to your old boss as 'Dick' because that's what his name was." [6] "Could you repeat that? I couldn't hear you over Maurice laughing in the hallway." [5] "So, you're saying that Officer Ardanowski's first name is actually the Roman numeral five, and that she has four older sisters named I, II, III and IV? Okay, YOU'RE fired...." [4] "It would seem that half the cast are now offspring of Jeff Webber..." [3] "Super Mega Power Exploding Gum????" [2] "Nice job with Katherine's recovery. Too bad I'm planning a new primetime episode where Stefan shoots her again, and she realizes she just really, really hates his guts." [1] "Well I don't CARE if you don't like it...what are you gonna do, log on to your laptop and burn my house down?!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jesaker@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 02 Oct 1997 15:33:18 -0500 (CDT) On 10/02/97 11:45:23 taiyin wrote: >Besides, I'm north of San Francisco. LA is a long ways off. > >Thanks for the vote of confidence, though. no problem--i'm just looking out for all of our best interests! you DO come up with some GREAT ideas! :) >Maybe that's what you should do, Julie. You should rewrite the end of >Brenda and Sonny the way you would have prefered to see it. now THAT'S tempting. i'll have to work on that. could take awhile though, being blinded by sorrow and rage and all... i've actually read a few (posted on pc online) which were pretty good. anybody else up for it? the hard part is, you have to stick with the situation THESE writers were given...sonny leaving, brenda staying, and no real indication of when (if ever) that situation will change. >Which was something else I forgot to mention: I just set up the fic >archive for the lists on my K&L Lighthouse page: >http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/lighthouse/fanfiction/index.html a page which i just, coincidentally enough, finished visiting! great job, all around, taiyin! my god--"the ultimate gh/pc link list"--you weren't KIDDING! (i can't even BEGIN to tell you how long it took to download that whole page! it's EXTREMELY extensive!) didn't get much time to look around (but i'll be back!), but i LOVED the pictures! first of all--the picture of the spencers after lulu's birth. i know i was watching then, but i just don't REMEMBER lucky being that young! you're making me feel VERY old, taiyin. (and that wasn't even that long ago!) and why on earth do i NOT remember those fuschia suits in the picture with mae-mae? did they actually wear them on the show, or just for the publicity shot? i can't believe i would forget something THAT...colorful. as an aside, i loved the picture of alexis. she looked so...soft. it was gorgeous. and karen--was that the official pc press shot? my, my, my... they certainly were playing up the ex-stripper angle, weren't they? :) and i've decided there's ANOTHER reason rena sofer should return to gh. if she did, and brought her baby with her, they could save a lot of money on family photos by just letting the gh publicity department take care of it! not a bad perk, and they'd get some GREAT pictures out of it! anyway, as far as links you didn't have--i have two that are kind of tangential (and, i can't SWEAR they're not there already, since there were so many to look through!) one's fanfic, and the other is more-or-less miscellaneous. the fanfic one is a round-robin story about the adventures of jax. it may have actually died by now--the last time i visited a lot of the chapter writers had dropped out. but it was kind of a fun story, so hopefully it will survive. (i haven't felt up to volunteering myself, because i'm not sure i could make the necessary commitment, but if anybody else out there CAN...i know they're looking for writers!) the address is: www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/1776/jjadv.html the second is a site of gh-related top 10 lists, that are usually REALLY funny. it's: www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/4443/MMsGHTop10.html not sure if they're the type of pages you would include, but you might want to check them out. >Well, new writing regimes on BOTH shows, Julie. Just keep reminding >yourself of that. oh, i DO...daily! why do you think i'm still here? :) (besides the brilliant company, of course) julie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 02 Oct 1997 16:10:10 -0700 >no problem--i'm just looking out for all of our best interests! you DO >come up with some GREAT ideas! :) Thanks. Too bad Wendy Riche doesn't take suggestions from fans, huh? >now THAT'S tempting. i'll have to work on that. could take awhile though, >being blinded by sorrow and rage and all... i've actually read a few >(posted on pc online) which were pretty good. anybody else up for it? Well, I'm not a major S&B fan (anymore), but I might end up doing one just because the one they gave us was so insulting. >hard part is, you have to stick with the situation THESE writers were >given...sonny leaving, brenda staying, and no real indication of when (if >ever) that situation will change. Yeah, but it didn't have to be before the wedding. They could have been married. Sonny could have been kidnapped or killed. And if you want to stick to daytime tradition, you could have him killed in such a way that there is no body and he could come back at some later date. OTOH, this is fanfic, after all, you can actually do anything you want. You can have him and Brenda get married and sail off into the sunset together. Write whatever will make you feel better. If you doubt it works ask any "Forever Knight" fan how they survived the last episode (where TPTB killed everyone off) -- most of us will tell you: fanfic. >a page which i just, coincidentally enough, finished visiting! great job, >all around, taiyin! my god--"the ultimate gh/pc link list"--you weren't >KIDDING! (i can't even BEGIN to tell you how long it took to download that >whole page! it's EXTREMELY extensive!) Thanks. Glad you liked it. And yeah, I know it takes centuries to download for most people. I was thinking about breaking it down to multiple pages just to avoid that, but I really wanted it all on one page. The only thing that would help would be if I took out the pictures. But I REALLY don't want to do that. >around (but i'll be back!), but i LOVED the pictures! first of all--the >picture of the spencers after lulu's birth. i know i was watching then, >but i just don't REMEMBER lucky being that young! you're making me feel >VERY old, taiyin. (and that wasn't even that long ago!) Well, if you're old what does that make me? And then what does that make Poor Old Jill? >and why on earth >do i NOT remember those fuschia suits in the picture with mae-mae? did >they actually wear them on the show, or just for the publicity shot? i >can't believe i would forget something THAT...colorful. You probably don't remember them because the lights at the Nurses' Ball made them look purple. They didn't look that bright on the show because the stage was so dark. >as an aside, i loved the picture of alexis. she looked so...soft. it was >gorgeous. Yeah, there are some really fabulous ones of her on the Alexis/Nancy Lee Grahan pages. >and karen--was that the official pc press shot? my, my, my... >they certainly were playing up the ex-stripper angle, weren't they? :) Well, that was aobut the only one that didn't have her in a frumy lab coat. But yeah, that was off the official PC site. >and i've decided there's ANOTHER reason rena sofer should return to gh. if >she did, and brought her baby with her, they could save a lot of money on >family photos by just letting the gh publicity department take care of it! >not a bad perk, and they'd get some GREAT pictures out of it! You're becoming a master of the art of Cheesy Rationalization(tm), Julie. >anyway, as far as links you didn't have Okie doke. Will add them manana, when I can get to a machine that actually has some RAM. >>Well, new writing regimes on BOTH shows, Julie. Just keep reminding >>yourself of that. > >oh, i DO...daily! why do you think i'm still here? :) >(besides the brilliant company, of course) Oh, of course. And, just because we've gotten WAAAAAAYYY off topic here... ObK&L: Suggestion time. Other than a wedding, stopping Rex & Kevin getting his practice back, what stories for K&L would everyone LIKE to see now that we have a new writing team coming in? I'll go first: I would like to see (a) Scott and Serena move out, (b) the obligatory (and aforementioned) things that I already disqualified and (c) I would like to see some serious changes made at the hospital, that include K&L. It seems that all of the interns (except Jake) want to be surgeons. Honestly, I can't see that realistically (within soap realitiy, not just RL(tm) reality) happening. I mentioned earlier on GH/PC that I always see Joe ending up as a pediatrician -- not sure why. Jake's in research; Chris has the typical surgeon's obnoxious mentality; but I can really see either Matt or Karen (or maybe even Julie) going into psychology and/or neurology. And I would really love to see that happen so Kevin will have something to do on a professional level WITH the interns. I would also like to see Lucy going back to actually RUNNING her company. She's been so hands-off lately because of all the on-going crisis in their lives that it's easy to forget that she actually HAS a company. But more than ANYTHING else, I want their comedy back!!! I'm glad that Val Jean has given us a taste of quntessential K&L humor in the past couple of days, but I miss their passion. They used to have the BEST fights (the one the night Felicia called the lighthouse and Kevin almost dropped Lucy to get to the phone; after Brenda's 21st birthday party, because of the Joe Scully mess; the night that Luke interruped them and they had the fight about Scully again before Kevin went down to the Outback to get ripped with Mac and Tony and then ending up fully clothed in the bathtub; all personal faves) and then they'd have the best make-up scenes afterwards. I love them all sappy and romantic, too, but I miss when there was more to them than just all this heavy emotional tragedy. I miss the way they used to challenge each other. I like the deeper understanding of each other that they have now, but they are lacking a lot of the liveliness that they used to have. And, as much as I love Lucy (and have since long before Kevin ever came to town), I miss some of her irreverence. I love that she gets to be the heroine in this incarnation, but I miss her still being a walking bundle of trouble. I didn't like her keeping Kevin in the dark with the Scully stuff, but I loved that she WAS involved in it (partly because I LOVE the Lucy and Luke friendship). I hated Damian and there were times when I'd want to shake Lucy to get her to see his games, but I loved the fact that Damian was, for most of the time, such an addiction to her -- despite how much Kevin hated it. It was much more fun when it was a struggle for her to "be a better person." Now that is just is one, she's missing a lot of what made Lucy "uniquely Lucy" (to quote Kevin). Part of that comes back to missing them being in their 'historical context' (with their friends and their old hang-outs, etc.), but mostly it's just them getting their reparte back. Taiyin "Do you believe in an ordered universe?" --"This sure as hell is not what I ordered." -- Luke and Lucy, GH ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debi Sanders Subject: K&L: "The Look" Date: 02 Oct 1997 19:51:42 -0500 Ok I just watched yesterdays show, once again Scotty had that "look" on his face after witnessing a imtimate moment between K & L. Right after he walked out of Kevins room......this is really beginning to bother me. I hope he was either: (1). Remembering his relationship with Dom. (2). Surprised that the Lucy he used to know could have such deep feeling for someone. (3). Just doing a "Scotty" thing (4) Come on help me out here.....anything but "I want Lucy Back!!" PLEASE!!!! Debi -- --------------------------------------------------------- Debi Sanders http://members.aol.com/DebiVF/THL.html "Come Visit" --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: "The Look" Date: 02 Oct 1997 18:00:22 -0700 Debi wrote: >Ok I just watched yesterdays show, once again Scotty had that "look" on >his face after witnessing a imtimate moment between K & L. Right after >he walked out of Kevins room......this is really beginning to bother me. Yeah, i did do a double-take at that look, too. >(2). Surprised that the Lucy he used to know could have such deep >feeling for someone. IMO, it was this one. I mean, no matter how much Lucy did for Dom and Scott when Dom was dying, I don't think Scott ever really understood just how much that changed who Lucy was fundamentally. I know he's aware of her capacity for love (prior to kevin he may have been just about the only person who did), but I think he thinks the way Tony did from that night with Kevin and Mac at the Outback: "No matter how hard she tries, and she does try, she is fundamentally a self-serving creature. You live in her world, it just so happens that you're there." I think deep down Scott just really believes that, and all the evidence to the contrary is throwing him a curve ball. >(3). Just doing a "Scotty" thing That's always possible. >(4) Come on help me out here.....anything but >"I want Lucy Back!!" PLEASE!!!! Actually, part of me kind of hopes that might have a little to do with it. I think after the way Scott left Lucy (which was cruel beyond words) after Serena was born, it would serve him right to come back now, wanting her, after she has changed so much and found her soulmate. OTOH, I would only like that if it was a one-way street. If TPTB were to have Lucy start seriously considering going back to Scott I'd have to scratch someone's eyes out before flinging myself off the highest available building. But as long as it's a harmless, UNREQUITED crush, then I hope they do go that direction. Taiyin GH/PC related mailing lists see Kevin & Lucy's Lighthouse: http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/lighthouse/front_door.html The Ultimate General Hospital/Port Charles Links Page: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9479/links.html "Chivalry is not only dead, it's condescending." -- Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jesaker@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: K&L: "The Look" Date: 03 Oct 1997 10:39:23 -0500 (CDT) On 10/02/97 18:00:22 taiyin wrote: > >IMO, it was this one. I mean, no matter how much Lucy did for Dom and >Scott when Dom was dying, I don't think Scott ever really understood just >how much that changed who Lucy was fundamentally. i would tend to agree. he was away for a long time, and she changed so much while he was gone, that i think he's only gradually realizing just how extensive those changes are. he's been getting kind of a crash course in the new lucy since he's been back, and i think he just finds himself amazed by her from time to time. (which is not so hard to understand--she IS an amazing woman!) >OTOH, I would only like that if it was a one-way street. If TPTB were to >have Lucy start seriously considering going back to Scott I'd have to >scratch someone's eyes out before flinging myself off the highest >available building. well...i agree that would be heinous...but don't do THAT, taiyin. we'd miss you terribly! >But as long as it's a harmless, UNREQUITED crush, then I hope they do go >that direction. but i do agree that could be kind of fun to watch--especially scott's reaction when he FULLY realizes how different this lucy is, and that she ISN'T INTERESTED in getting involved with him again. i only hope HE'S changed enough over the years that he'd be mature enough to handle that without retaliating in some ridiculous way, by taking serena away or something. to be honest, i'd be extremely surprised if tptb DIDN'T attempt something in the triangle direction. it's just so OBVIOUS... julie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jesaker@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: K&L: Oh my GOODNESS!!!! Date: 03 Oct 1997 14:48:45 -0500 (CDT) On 10/02/97 16:10:10 taiyin wrote: >Yeah, but it didn't have to be before the wedding. They could have been >married. Sonny could have been kidnapped or killed. And if you want to >stick to daytime tradition, you could have him killed in such a way that >there is no body and he could come back at some later date. > >OTOH, this is fanfic, after all, you can actually do anything you want. >You can have him and Brenda get married and sail off into the sunset >together. Write whatever will make you feel better. oh, i DEFINITELY agree there were INNUMERABLE ways to write sonny off AFTER the wedding. and when i get around to writing MY version, there will be no doubt in anyone's mind that sonny and brenda are together forever in their hearts, even if they can't be together physically. and while it's extremely tempting to have them go off together to live happily ever after, i might feel even better if i can write a satisfying ending that still plays by the rules, so to speak. so i'll probably still have him leave at the end, but very much with the assumption that he WILL be back. we'll have to see how it turns out, i guess. >Thanks. Glad you liked it. And yeah, I know it takes centuries to >download for most people. I was thinking about breaking it down to >multiple pages just to avoid that, but I really wanted it all on one page. >The only thing that would help would be if I took out the pictures. But I >REALLY don't want to do that. oh no...i don't want you to do that either! in case you couldn't tell, the pictures were my favorite part! > You're becoming a master of the art of Cheesy >Rationalization(tm), Julie. only by necessity. reality has been getting harder and harder to deal with, y'know! whatever it takes to survive! :) >And, just because we've gotten WAAAAAAYYY off topic here... ObK&L: >Suggestion time. Other than a wedding, stopping Rex & Kevin getting his >practice back, what stories for K&L would everyone LIKE to see now that we >have a new writing team coming in? well, those three would be a great start...and a BABY, damn it!!! beyond that... >I'll go first: I would like to see (a) Scott and Serena move out, definitely important. but i still want lucy to be EXTREMELY involved with serena. i thought it was so cute, the way she was there for her first day of school, and i want lucy to be able to participate in ALL of her major milestones like that. but they absolutely have to move out. >(c) I would like to see some serious changes made at the hospital, that >include K&L. It seems that all of the interns (except Jake) want to be >surgeons. Honestly, I can't see that realistically (within soap realitiy, >not just RL(tm) reality) happening. well, first and foremost i'd (STILL) like to see some sort of integration between k/l/s and the interns. with rare exceptions, it's still like they're on two different shows most of the time. i'm not entirely sure what the best method would be--i agree with taiyin that getting some of the interns involved in psych would help. but i'd like lucy and scotty to be involved with them in some way too. plus, they've all been more or less ignoring the older generation. if mike, mary scanlon, victor, lee and gail, and audrey are supposed to be on pc (IS audrey? i'm still not sure), it might be nice for them to have a SCENE once in a while. >I mentioned earlier on GH/PC that I always see Joe ending up as a >pediatrician -- not sure why. oooh. you know, i can really see that too! >Jake's in research; Chris has the typical >surgeon's obnoxious mentality; although i'd REALLY like to see chris take a VERY BIG fall. perhaps lose his internship entirely. because he's just been HORRIBLE--whoever said it in yesterday's show was right...he's picking off his competition one at a time. but then--if he lost his internship, what would he do? that's another thing--we don't really have much to do with any of these interns (jake excluded, because of danielle and rex) outside of the hospital. they've done a little bit...but i'd like to see their LIVES developed more. they can't ALL be on call 24 hours a day, seven days a week. take matt for example--we went through all that stuff about him needing to find a place to live. have we even SEEN his apartment now that he has it? dr. burgess too. i get the feeling SHE could be a fascinating character. but we need to get her out of that damn hospital for maybe five minutes or so, and see what makes HER tick. >I would also like to see Lucy going back to actually RUNNING her company. oh yeah, you mean she actually HAS a job? if we could get her out of crisis mode for more than five minutes at a time, maybe she'd remember that too... i understand crises are dramatic, but there IS such as thing as TOO MUCH drama! >But more than ANYTHING else, I want their comedy back!!! >And, as much as I love Lucy (and have since long before Kevin ever came to >town), I miss some of her irreverence. >Part of that comes back to missing them being in their'historical context' >(with their friends and their old hang-outs, etc.), but mostly it's just >them getting their reparte back. that's still my biggest gripe with pc. i think they're missing out on a lot of potential by isolating the two casts so much. at least half the pc cast--l/k/s, mike, karen--have some existing connection to gh characters, and the others (by virtue of living there, and working in the hospital) easily COULD. i know tptb want to keep the two shows separate, but i think they're missing some great opportunities by not integrating them more than they have been. and it's especially unfair to the established characters (l/k/s) who are missing relationships that have been developed over YEARS, and have now just been DROPPED. however...(pollyanna speaking) guza DID say he'd like to address that very complaint. so...brighter days could be ahead in that regard! other than that--just my previous complaint about how much i hate the villains (rex and chris), and DESPISE danielle. but all in all, i'm definitely liking pc better than i thought i would. (and it can't be SOLELY because gh has been so lousy lately. can it?) julie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debi Sanders Subject: K&L: "The Look" Date: 03 Oct 1997 17:53:51 -0500 >But as long as it's a harmless, UNREQUITED crush, then I hope they do >go that direction. UNREQUITED! Exactly, I wouldn't mind watching him squirm, thinking about what he lost. And I have to admit I love it when Kevin gets jealous! His reaction to Damian was great, I really like the time he tried to strangle him..... Debi -- --------------------------------------------------------- Debi Sanders http://members.aol.com/DebiVF/THL.html "Come Visit" --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: "The Look" Date: 05 Oct 1997 21:15:11 -0400 Wow - I was gone at a conference for a few days, and when I returned there were a couple of dozen posts from the K&L list! Y'all have been busy! At 06:00 PM 10/2/97 -0700, Taiyin wrote: >Debi wrote: > >>Ok I just watched yesterdays show, once again Scotty had that "look" on >>his face after witnessing a imtimate moment between K & L. Right after >>he walked out of Kevins room......this is really beginning to bother me. > >Yeah, i did do a double-take at that look, too. Count me in too. >>(2). Surprised that the Lucy he used to know could have such deep >>feeling for someone. > >IMO, it was this one. I mean, no matter how much Lucy did for Dom and >Scott when Dom was dying, I don't think Scott ever really understood just >how much that changed who Lucy was fundamentally. I know he's aware of her >capacity for love (prior to kevin he may have been just about the only >person who did), but I think he thinks the way Tony did from that night >with Kevin and Mac at the Outback: "No matter how hard she tries, and she >does try, she is fundamentally a self-serving creature. You live in her >world, it just so happens that you're there." I think deep down Scott >just really believes that, and all the evidence to the contrary is throwing >him a curve ball. I decided the same. I think Lucy was right the week before last when she told Scott, "You just don't get it," but he's starting to. There may be a bit of jealousy in his look, because he may have always assumed he could just walk back into town and take Lucy back - IF he felt like it. I'm not convinced he wants her for himself; I think maybe his ego is just hurt that she has gotten over him so thoroughly. And I think the other part is that it's bringing back memories of Dom. >>(3). Just doing a "Scotty" thing > >That's always possible. One of the "looks" (I'd say there were two of them this week) ended in a grin that said to me, "That's Lucy for you." So I think there's something to this theory too. >But as long as it's a harmless, UNREQUITED crush, then I hope they do go >that direction. Yeah, I could live with that! It would bug the daylights out of Kevin and probably gratify Lucy's ego, but that would be okay. Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin and Lucy, the way they're supposed to be Date: 05 Oct 1997 21:31:47 -0400 At 09:29 AM 10/2/97 -0700, Taiyin wrote: >Rika wrote: >Which reminded me of something: during the Daytime Emmy's, when Jon, Lynn >and Kin presented an award I noticed what a fabulous comedy trio they make. > Only THEN it was Kin and Jon playing the 'straight men' and Lynn playing >the goofball. But, seriously, they are all three so versital, that they >could really rotate which one plays which role. Now if they'd just >actually DO it. Yeah, but it looks like things are going to stay pretty heavy and serious for a while longer.... >> Lucy tiptoeing in in the silly scarf. > >You know, I think THAT was probably the MOST quintessential, authentic >moment of the ep. Kind of like Lucy walking around PC the day after the >1996 Nurses' Ball in glasses and a floppy hat thinking she could avoid >being recognized. YES! Wasn't that the day Kevin bit her on the nose? >>We need to figure out a way to keep Val Jean on PC! > >Do you know if she was just supposed to be there for the transitioning, or >is it possible she was moved to PC to write dialogue? I've always thought >that PC needed seperate dialogue writers, like GH has. Maybe Wendy will >keep her there. I have no information about this, but I'm going to write to Michelle Val Jean and send a copy of the letter to Wendy. I genuinely noticed the difference in the writing before I saw Val Jean's name on the credits, and that says a lot. Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: K&L: Kevin, Lucy, and the Near Kiss Date: 05 Oct 1997 21:27:58 -0400 Hi, all - it's the transcript for the week! We're moving into some VERY interesting Kevin/Lucy territory. Enjoy! Rika KEVIN, LUCY, AND THE NEAR-KISS - July 21 or 22, 1994 First, let's set the scene. Kevin had invited Felicia to dinner at the Lighthouse; he fixed some sort of pasta dish. As they sat down to eat, Lucy started noisily banging on the door. Kevin was furious with her but opened the door to her anyway. She was frantic because she had tried to hire Mac to investigate Katherine Bell (who was engaged to Ned, and who had convinced Ned to make her president of Deception), and Mac had refused to do so. Lucy and Felicia fell into a gripe session about Katherine while an increasingly miffed Kevin was ignored by both of them. Felicia unexpectedly agreed to take Lucy's case, and decided to leave immediately to get started. Kevin tried to kick Lucy out too, but she refused to go, instead sitting down to try Felicia's plate of pasta. When we return, Lucy is alone in the living room, furiously pacing the floor and ranting about the fact that Kevin left her alone in the house. The door slams - Kevin is back. K: "Lucy, you're still here." L: "Do you know, that is the rudest thing one human being can possibly do to another human being. You just left me waiting here for you." K: "I didn't ask you to wait - I asked you to leave." L: "And I heard you, and you were furious with me, so I couldn't leave while you were still so mad at me. Are you still? K: "Not as." L: "Good. Then I'm glad I stayed. Where did you go?" K: "For a walk. Lucy, we really have to come to some kind of an understanding about these unexpected visits of yours." L: "Oh, okay, if it's such a big deal to you, I will try to do better. I will. But, see, I'm sort of this spontaneous person, you know, and - you ought to try it some time." Lucy turns her back on Kevin and walks a short distance away from him. He takes her advice, and suddenly walks up very, very close behind her. She is rattled; she turns to face him, stammering a bit as she tells him: L: "What I was just trying to say - " K: "Yes?" L: "Well, I just tend to react, you know, in a moment, and when my whole world is falling apart..." K: "Mmm.... go on...." L: "I just want to run to you as fast as I can." (They were already standing pretty close together, but Kevin moves in another step.) K: "Why?" L: "Because you're my friend?" K: "That's it? That's the only reason?" L: "What do you want from me?" K: "I want you to tell me the truth." L: "It's not the only reason. It's because you don't judge me, even when you think I'm wrong. And because you think I have a good heart, and it makes me think I have a good heart too. And it makes me feel like a better person and not such a horrible thing. And because sometimes when you look at me, I think you see my soul." K: "Try looking back, Lucy." (Lucy tries to decide what to say; she finally chickens out.) L: "I should go, get out of your hair." (Lucy starts to leave; Kevin moves sideways to block her way.) K: "Well, would you like to stay for dessert?" L: "You asked me to leave, so I wouldn't dream of that, remember?" K: "Oh, I see, now you're punishing me." L: "You deserve it." Lucy brushes past Kevin, heading for the door. In an impulsive move, Kevin reaches out as Lucy walks by, wraps one arm around her waist, and pulls her close to him. It seems that they're going to kiss; they stop just short of that, but the heat between them is palpable. They stare at each other for a long moment, and then Kevin murmurs: K: "Be careful on your way home." L: "Good night." Kevin releases Lucy, who heads for the door somewhat unsteadily as Kevin watches. Outside, she stops to catch her breath. Inside, Kevin expels a gust of air. He walks very gingerly (and in a bowlegged-cowboy style) over to the sofa, and carefully lowers himself to a very, um, stiff sitting position. Mae West would know just what question to ask Kevin right now, but to keep this PG-rated, we'll just say - The End! Next up - Kevin and Lucy's first kiss. Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: K&L: Kevin and Lucy and Rob and Laura Date: 05 Oct 1997 21:51:04 -0400 What did everybody think of Friday's episode? I had several reactions. Overall, the situation had so many unrealistic aspects that it's probably not necessary to go into them, but then so did the Norma and Eve story, and I loved that - it was worth suspending disbelief to enjoy the fun. I found myself thinking that the comedy was a bit forced in this case, yet I still laughed my head off at certain aspects of it. First off, one of Kevin's endearing qualities (to me, anyway) is that he is permitted by TPTB to look ridiculous on occasion. Their more traditional hunks don't ever look silly. At the top of the episode, when Kevin shuffled out of the bathroom in the hospital gown, his IV trailing along with him, to find Lucy in his room with a stranger, I had to chuckle. And I also recalled Taiyin's wish for a rear view of Kevin in one of those hospital gowns!!!! Hey, they showed Dr. Morgenstern's rear end on ER last week, and PC is copying ER in some ways, so why not???? :-) Second, I'm amused that by the time this is all over, Kevin and Lucy are likely to be somewhat of a legend on the hospital grapevine. Between Grace being in on the scheme, and the fact that someone is going to have to help Kevin to rescue Lucy (I'm hoping it'll be Eve - she could have a LOT of fun with this), imagine the stories that will circulate! And some people may still recall Kevin's hospital visit a few years back which was directly caused by Lucy and a bathtub..... Third, I love it when Kevin's a bit of a curmudgeon. When he started grumbling at Grace about their long walk ("YOU try it with a hole in your head") it was yet one more piece of evidence that the dialogue is being written by someone (and now we know who) who *understands* Kevin and Lucy. Fourth, Kevin's reaction to the renovation of his room was perfect. He was astonished and disoriented at first, but he knows Lucy well enough that he put the pieces together pretty quickly. That sexy little smile when he looked at her bathrobe, spread across the bed, was great. I found myself rather disappointed that he wasn't going to be able to go right into the bathroom and join her in the tub. Fifth, and probably my favorite part of the show, Lucy's nervous, rambling conversation with Bennett Devlin had me LOL. It's funny how overtly sexual she can be in private situations, and yet how modest in this kind of setting. I thought she was going to dive under the floorboards when he said, "You mean sex?" It was probably also a good thing that Lucy brought up the comparison to Audrey Hardy so that Devlin could explain why it was so different in this case. Audrey was unconscious for weeks, wasn't she? Thank goodness they didn't inflict that on us in this case! Anyway, "the rescue" on Monday should be interesting! Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debi Sanders Subject: K&L: Re: Kevin & Lucy & Rob Date: 05 Oct 1997 21:15:55 -0500 Rika wrote: I'm with you 100% on Kevins reactions to his room. And to his being silly...tell me what other guy do you know that can look that sexy shuffleing across a room. If he can barely walk by himself how in the world is he supposed to......well never mind I'm sure Lucy will find a way ;-) My big question is WHERE THE HECK IS MAC???? They gotta get these two shows in sinc...remember when Katherine was in the hospital L & K sat outside her door all night and Lucy dosen't even like Kat...They did it for Mac. So where is he now that his best friend almost dies? Not even a mention on GH of what happened to him...after all they are in the "same" hospital aren't they? Debi -- --------------------------------------------------------- Debi Sanders http://members.aol.com/DebiVF/THL.html "Come Visit" --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jej104@aol.com Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin and Lucy and Rob and Laura Date: 05 Oct 1997 22:05:39 -0400 (EDT) As I watched Friday's toe in the faucet scenes, as much as I enjoyed them I had to wonder how many people actually realized just how much was lifted from The Dick Van Dyke Show. Of course, any excuse to see Lucy in a bubble bath works for me, but did anyone else get the feeling this was really forced? On another note, wouldn't a brief return by Norma and Eve to help catch Rex in his scheme be a welcome relief from all these dopey scenes of Rex droning on and on about his plans to himself? Johnny ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Re: Kevin & Lucy & Rob Date: 05 Oct 1997 23:00:27 -0400 At 09:15 PM 10/5/97 -0500, Debi wrote: >I'm with you 100% on Kevins reactions to his room. And to his being >silly...tell me what other guy do you know that can look that sexy >shuffleing across a room. If he can barely walk by himself how in the >world is he supposed to......well never mind I'm sure Lucy will find a >way ;-) That was one of my concerns too. "Be gentle" is all well and good, but the poor guy - if his head hurts when he laughs, how is it going to feel if he is moved to...... shall we say, make other enthusiastic noises? But as you say, if anybody can figure it out, it's Lucy. >My big question is WHERE THE HECK IS MAC???? They gotta get these two >shows in sinc...remember when Katherine was in the hospital L & K sat >outside her door all night and Lucy dosen't even like Kat...They did it >for Mac. So where is he now that his best friend almost dies? Not even a >mention on GH of what happened to him...after all they are in the "same" >hospital aren't they? I posted a rant about this on RATSA. On either Thursday or Friday's GH, Mac even mentioned Lucy's name to Felicia - something about a "Lucy Coe hunch", I think. If THAT didn't bring up a mention of Kevin's situation, I don't know what would! And it isn't just Mac who should be there. Lucy and Felicia were developing a nice friendship - nice enough that Lucy mentioned asking Felicia to be her maid of honor. Wouldn't it have been nice if Felicia had shown up at the hospital during Kevin's surgery to sit with Lucy for a while. Scott was great to Lucy, but unlike Scott, Felicia understands how Lucy feels about Kevin and could have been a great comfort to her. I'm inclined to blame it on crossovers, but actually that may be an oversimplification. Months and months went by after Jasmine Island in which Mac and Kevin had almost no scenes together. I realize that was partly because of the situation with Felicia, but back then I wanted to smack Mac around for abandoning Kevin when he needed him most. This feels like more of the same. Grrrrrr. Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin and Lucy and Rob and Laura Date: 05 Oct 1997 23:07:09 -0400 At 10:05 PM 10/5/97 -0400, Johnny wrote: >As I watched Friday's toe in the faucet scenes, as much as I enjoyed them I >had to wonder how many people actually realized just how much was lifted from >The Dick Van Dyke Show. Of course, any excuse to see Lucy in a bubble bath >works for me, but did anyone else get the feeling this was really forced? Well, um.... yes..... I used exactly that word in the message you were replying to when you wrote this. Perhaps you missed it. I'm glad you agree with me. >On another note, wouldn't a brief return by Norma and Eve to help catch Rex >in his scheme be a welcome relief from all these dopey scenes of Rex droning >on and on about his plans to himself? Much as I loved Norma and Eve (as I also mentioned in my previous message), I can't agree with this. For me, their return in San Antonio wasn't nearly as much fun as the original. I think that's an idea that has run its course. I'd rather see something original, like the Rex vs. Kevin mind-games idea that Taiyin proposed a week or so ago. You have touched on a problem, though - that Rex has to talk to himself so much. I don't agree with the "droning" part - I find him delicious whenever he's on-screen - but he needs a partner in crime so he can talk to someone about his plans instead of just talking to himself. This attorney, Byron Rollins, doesn't exactly fill that bill (since Rex is lying to him too), but it's still an improvement. Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lydia Salaiz" Subject: K&L: RE:PC Happenings Date: 05 Oct 1997 22:39:35 -0500 Help!!! Could someone please fill me in on what is happening on PC. I don't get a chance to watch it very often. I do know that Kevin is in the hospital because of a fire and that something is going on with Karen. Lydia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jej104@aol.com Subject: Re: K&L: RE:PC Happenings Date: 05 Oct 1997 23:41:41 -0400 (EDT) PC Update -- 9/29 - 10/3, 1997 Monday Chris reads Jagger's letter and is caught by Karen. A figure in black tampers with Kevin's IV and the tilt of his head. (My bet: the new improved Father Cooper.) Lucy goes to see Doc and his machine starts beeping. Devlin blames Karen's incompetence and Chris gets to scrub in. Rex breaks into the lighthouse to get into Scott's briefcase and paints a hallucinogenic drug on the gluestrip of the envelopes inside. Gail and Serena get stuff for Serena to stay at Grandma's. Serena thinks somebody's been in the lighthouse. Frank's better. Eve stitches up a kid and Ben tries a new soft-sell approach. Eve: "Don't get me wrong--I still don't believe a word you say." Later Scott tells Eve he knows her date was with Ben. Tuesday, Karen can't figure out who opened the IV line. She tells Chris he had no right to read her letter. Chris tells Ellen that Karen is under too much stress. Lucy imagines her and Kevin's wedding day. Kevin's all right--Lucy and Scotty visit him briefly, then see that Danielle is back in town. Wednesday, Chris continues telling Ellen about Karen's letter. Karen meanwhile tells Joe about Chris reading it, then comes clean abouy San Francisco. Ellen puts Karen's actions under review, taking her off surgical rotation. Lucy goes off on Danielle. "You are nothing like your sister.... And if she ever met you she would be sorely disappointed!" Scott agrees to distract the nurse while Lucy sneaks in to see Kevin. Lucy: "You really aren't as big a jerk as you used to be." Later Lucy bribes the night nurse with a box of Jax Cosmetics so she may stay with Kevin for the night. Joe punches Chris and they begin to fight, but Matt breaks it up. Thursday, Karen tells her troubles to Scotty. Rex fantasizes about getting Serena and the money. He then meets with his lawyer about painting Scotty as an unfit parent. Frank comes to GH to see Julie--his story was picked up by the Chicago papers. Eve overhears Ben tell Julie that Alan has asked him to continue the seminars. Ben acts impressed by Frank's heroism. Julie leaves and Eve says, "Oh, I've got it now. You figured out a way to break Frank and Julie up!" Eve offers to keep their relationship secret if Ben won't mess up Julie and Frank. Thanks to Ben's meddling Frank gets a job offer in Chicago. Friday Frank is turning down the job to stay in PC with Julie. Eve's annoyed that Ben tried to break their new deal. Ben tells Lucy that she and Doc can resume sex. Lucy brings her interior decorator to Kevin's hospital room. Grace keeps Kevin occupied. The room is transformed and Lucy is in a bubble bath when he returns. Only one problem--the door to the bathroom is stuck. Make that two problems--in a tribute to Dick Van Dyke, Lucy's toe is stuck in the faucet. Rex relates the old Jason storyline and his lawyer informs him that with proof the case is winnable. Eve needs another favor from Scott--that he never reveal her relationship with Ben. Scott licks one of the envelopes. The drug takes effect after Eve leaves. Scott looks up and sees a woman (though the TV audience can't see her face) and asks: "What are you doing here--?" My bet: she's only there in his mind. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin and Lucy and Rob and Laura Date: 05 Oct 1997 21:10:50 -0700 Johnny wrote: >As I watched Friday's toe in the faucet scenes, as much as I enjoyed them I >had to wonder how many people actually realized just how much was lifted from >The Dick Van Dyke Show. Well, I knew it was, but that was only because Rika told me before hand. :-) >Of course, any excuse to see Lucy in a bubble bath >works for me, but did anyone else get the feeling this was really forced? Actually, I didn't find it forced at all. In fact, it seemed more like Kevin and Lucy than anything we've seen since MONTHS before they ever left GH. Mostly it just reminded me of lapses linguae, worm crawls, allergies to muscles and inopportune phone calls from Felicia. And because of that, I loved it. >On another note, wouldn't a brief return by Norma and Eve to help catch Rex >in his scheme be a welcome relief from all these dopey scenes of Rex droning >on and on about his plans to himself? Well, I half agree with Rika on this: I'm not sure that Norma and Eve are the answer -- I'd much rather a battle of the wits between Kevin and Rex, and letting Jake in on the side-lines would be probably the best (if not one of the ONLY) ways to garner any appeal for him. However, I do agree that I'm wholly uninterested in Rex. I like good bad guys, and on some levels he is very good, but his omnipotence is getting tiresome for me. If there is one thing I can't stand it's smug. And Rex is the King of Smug. I understand the need to make his plan succeed for a while before K&L&S can start figuring it out and stop him. But every once in a while an act of nature needs to throw him for a loop. Nobody is right 100% of the time, I don't care how brilliant you are. And so far, he's been too on the money too many times. It's very two-dimensional. And I'm glad that Michelle Val Jean has started toning down his dialogue a bit. Wayne has spent so many weeks chewing the scenery that I'm suprised he doesn't use the remnants of the lighthouse for a toothpick. Taiyin, who thinks she'll follow Rika's example and write to Michelle and to Wendy... GH/PC related mailing lists see Kevin & Lucy's Lighthouse: http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/lighthouse/front_door.html The Ultimate General Hospital/Port Charles Links Page: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9479/links.html "Chivalry is not only dead, it's condescending." -- Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jesaker@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin and Lucy and Rob and Laura Date: 06 Oct 1997 09:10:38 -0500 (CDT) On 10/05/97 23:07:09 rika wrote: > >You have touched on a problem, though - that Rex has to talk to himself so >much. I don't agree with the "droning" part - I find him delicious >whenever he's on-screen - but he needs a partner in crime so he can talk to >someone about his plans instead of just talking to himself. > well, this is yet another of my fundamental problems in accepting rex as a decent villain. my theory (sorry, shakespeare...) is that soliloquies should NOT be necessary. at least not when we're dealing with a villain. if his plan is so elaborate and complicated that the viewers will never understand it unless rex walks us all through it, step by step, talking to himself as he carries it out...then there's something wrong with the plan. hasn't rex ever heard that the most effective schemes are the simple ones? julie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: K&L: Kevin, Lucy, and The Kiss Date: 11 Oct 1997 17:36:35 -0400 Hi, all! I'm sending the transcript a day early. As you know, this was a Very Big Event in the Kevin/Lucy relationship, and even after all this time it's probably on my Top Ten list of favorite Kevin/Lucy scenes. Enjoy - Rika ------------------------ KEVIN, LUCY, AND THE KISS - July 22, 1994 In our last scene, Kevin and Lucy *almost* kissed, but not quite. Lucy left, but both our heroes were clearly astonished by the powerful feelings ignited by that near-kiss. Later that same evening, the doorbell rings. Kevin answers it - it's Lucy, back again. She winces. L: "You missed your cue. Aren't you going to yell at me?" K: "Well, I haven't decided yet. Lucy, why are you here?" L: "Here - I know it, I know it. You know, after all we went through, here I show up again, and I didn't call first, did I? But I intended to call first - and actually I picked up a phone and I actually did dial...." (Lucy goes on to explain that she mistakenly called the Port Charles Hotel, where Kevin lived till recently, and then couldn't remember his new phone number.) "... so I thought I'd take a chance, you know, and show up again. Are you furious with me?" K: "This couldn't wait until tomorrow?" (No, Kevin, it couldn't - K/L fans have waited long enough for what is about to happen!) L: "Well, if it could, do you think I would have risked another eruption?" (Kevin thinks about it. Oh, come on, Kevin, how tough could this be?) L: "Well, so?" (Kevin motions her in. They walk into the living room.) K: "Lucy, you're in, you're out. You come, you go. You're starting to make me dizzy." L: "Well, that serves you right because turnabout is fair play." K: "What does that mean?" L: "I don't know; you're the expert." K: "No, no, no, no, no - you say it." (Lucy isn't quite willing to admit what's going on, so she evades.) L: "You never did tell me what was for dessert." K: "Oh, darn - I put it in the freezer." L: "Can't you heat it up?" K: "Maybe, with a little cooperation." L: "Why do I have this feeling that we're not on the subject of food anymore?" K: "You asked me something earlier; now it's my turn. What do you want from me, Lucy?" L: "I told you - dessert." K: "What about after dessert?" L: "We'll just have to see when the time comes; I couldn't possibly think on an empty stomach." K: "Okay, Lucy, here's the way it is around here tonight. I'm not in the mood for games, or hiding behind banter that doesn't mean anything later when you try to break it down. I don't want to hear a word about Damian or Tony or Katherine, or all the strange things they like to do to each other. If you want to be with me, then just be with me. And before the night is over, I want you to get to a point where you can look me in the eye and admit to the real reason you came back here tonight. Is that understood?" (Great speech, and good points - but let's notice that Kevin is playing it safe - *he's* not admitting to anything.) L: "Goodness, how am I possibly supposed to remember all those silly rules?" K: "Are you staying or going?" L: "You know something, you are extremely attractive when you get so bossy. You get this imperious look on your face like we're all so very lucky to be in the same world with you." (She's right - the imperious look is out in full force, and it's VERY attractive. Lucy gives up; he's not negotiating.) L: "Staying." A megawatt smile lights up Kevin's face. When we rejoin them later, they are walking around the living room holding wine glasses. L: "This has been the nicest evening. Your house is divine, and the food was delicious, and the wine is superb, and the music is just perfect. And then, there's you. K: "Don't I rate an adjective?" L: "You are amazing." K: "Amazing is good." L: "I am serious. You think I'm kidding, but it's true. If you had any idea how crummy I felt before I got here tonight.... I spent the evening - ..... never mind." K: "All right, out with it." L: "No, no, I can't because it would go against one of your rules." (They sit on the sofa, turned sideways to face each other.) L: "But, on the other hand, if you were to allow me to break one of your rules, I could answer that question that you asked me earlier about why I'm really here tonight." K: "That's a fair exchange." L: "I was with Damian tonight, and I realized something. You know, all this time I thought that he was good for me. 'Cause he's very charming, and he makes me laugh, and he came along at a time in my life when I needed to laugh so very much. But stuff has happened - the bet, and Bobbie and Tony..... and you." (A brief pause. A gentle, Mona Lisa-ish smile comes across Kevin's face as he continues to listen attentively.) L: "So now I can't seem to look at him in the same way. You know, he's charming, and he says all those things that I think I really want to hear, and when I'm with him I feel hollow, and when I leave him I feel just less, somehow. And then there's you. You seem to say all the things that I do not want to hear, and you make me look inside myself, which is one thing I really hate to do. But when I leave you, I always feel better. So, there, I told you. I really wanted you to know that." (They ever-so-slowly move closer to each other; their voices gradually become softer until they are almost speaking in whispers.) K: "Thank you." L: "What did I do?" K: "You told the truth." L: "That's what you do for me." K: "And I always will, even if it hurts." (Kevin moves closer to Lucy. He reaches out and smooths her hair away from her cheek.) K: "I like the way you look in my house." (Lucy moves closer to Kevin) L: "Kevin?" K: "Yes?" L: "When, when, *when* are you going to kiss me?" K: "Right...... this...... second." They kiss - a gentle, tentative kiss. They pull back just a bit and look into each other's eyes. They move together again, and this time there is nothing gentle or tentative about what happens. They sink against the sofa back, kissing passionately. When they finally stop, their faces stay close together (in fact, they rub noses). They gaze into each other's eyes, trying to catch their breath, astonished and overwhelmed by what just happened. Kevin's voice is husky as he asks: K: "More wine?" L: "Please." K: "Sure." Grateful for the chance to buy some time and figure out what on *earth* just happened, Kevin gets up and takes their wine glasses over to the table. Lucy is a little out of breath; she looks surprised but pleased by this turn of events. Kevin, before pouring the wine, gazes over at Lucy; he looks scared to death. The end! (Transcriber's note: Some GH fans attended a fan event the day after this episode aired. They asked Jon Lindstrom what happened next, since they were surprised the episode left off at this point, with Lucy still sitting on Kevin's sofa. His opinion was that "Kevin got hammered - that woman scares him.") Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: K&L: Yesterday's PC & the New K&L Web Ring Date: 11 Oct 1997 14:46:30 -0700 Well, it sure has been quiet around here. I guess that's what happens when our heros go a few days without any activity. I must say, though, I was very happy yesterday to see Scott ask Lucy if she and Kevin would be Serena's gaurdians in case anything happens to him. It was a very nice show that Scott might FINALLY be understanding that Kevin & Lucy are permanent that he asked her if *they* would do it instead of if *she* would do it. I'm also happy to see that Kevin, FINALLY, is getting something to do with some of the new faces. Hopefully that will last. Anyway, the reason that I am taking this break from homework and family parties is to tell you all something: Yesterday, in my on-going quest to procrastinate, I built a Kevin & Lucy Web Ring. http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/webring/index.html I *think* I have the coding gliches all worked out . This web ring, however, is not just for GH/PC sites, like all the other web sites seem to end up being used for. This one is only for K&L related sites (and logical extensions of that -- Debi, that would include your THL site). So, if you have a site that fits, please go ahead and add it. Now, back to homework and great aunt's 90th birthday parties... Taiyin "I've grown quite accustomed to your face, and several other parts of you, and I'm not about to give you up again." -- Kevin to Lucy, "GH" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin, Lucy, and The Kiss Date: 11 Oct 1997 15:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Rika wrote: >They asked Jon Lindstrom what happened next, since >they were surprised the episode left off at this point, >with Lucy still sitting on Kevin's sofa. His opinion >was that "Kevin got hammered - that woman scares him.") Which indicates, I think, a deep understanding of both characters . --kg ***** "Ah, yes! I wrote the Purple Cow-- I'm sorry, now, I wrote it! But I can tell you anyhow, I'll kill you if you quote it!" --Gelett Burgess MOO: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/3063/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Yesterday's PC & the New K&L Web Ring Date: 13 Oct 1997 00:24:46 -0400 At 02:46 PM 10/11/97 -0700, Taiyin wrote: >Well, it sure has been quiet around here. I guess that's what happens when >our heros go a few days without any activity. Amen! I do the Tuesday updates for RATSA, and I was amazed to see that the only contract players not used on Tuesday's episode were Jon Lindstrom and Renee Allman. And, heck, a lot of the recurring characters were on too! I was in major Kevin withdrawal by the time he showed up on Friday! >I must say, though, I was very happy yesterday to see Scott ask Lucy if she >and Kevin would be Serena's gaurdians in case anything happens to him. It >was a very nice show that Scott might FINALLY be understanding that Kevin & >Lucy are permanent that he asked her if *they* would do it instead of if >*she* would do it. Excellent point. Not only that, but Scott has come *so* far since back in May, when he refused to let Serena visit with Lucy because Kevin was supposedly so dangerous. But I was annoyed by one thing - I would have liked Scott to broach the subject to both Kevin and Lucy, as opposed to the way it happened with only Lucy there. >I'm also happy to see that Kevin, FINALLY, is getting something to do with >some of the new faces. Hopefully that will last. Yes indeed - I hope he'll be a continuing part of the Search for the Man in Black (will Cooper start to wear Ray-Bans, do you think? :-). Perhaps after this he could be reinstated at the hospital and be responsible for supervising the interns during a psych rotation. I am disgusted, though, that Frank hasn't dropped by Kevin's room on one of his many recent trips to the hospital. As we understand it, Kevin got Frank out of the building after he was overcome by the smoke, right? And that would mean that Kevin saved Frank's life, wouldn't it? (And, of course, don't get me STARTED on Mac's continued absence.....) And I *have* to mention Kevin and Victor on Friday. It was very sweet, and it's nice to find out that Kevin got his sense of humor from his dad: "Fish today. No species I know." Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: K&L: Ms. Lucy Date: 16 Oct 1997 15:05:16 -0700 Well, I don't know if it was just me or not, but yesterday Lucy seemed SO strange and out of character to me. And, for the life of me, I can't put my finger on what exactly I felt was wrong. I know she is fiercly protective of Kevin (after 1996 who can blame her?), but for some reason, her going off at Karen and Joe seemed not at all like her to me. And I also can't make sense of why Karen didn't tell Lucy that *Kevin* remembers someone being in his room after she left. Maybe I'm just annoyed at Lucy for accusing Karen and liking Devlin, though I don't think that's it. Whatever it was, she just seemed off somehow to me. On another note, I got the new SOD yesterday. The new head writer commented on the fact that she "loves" the comedic timing of Lynn and Jon. Sounds promising to me! Of course she did go on to mention that Kevin was going to start becoming "jealous" of Scott/Lucy, which I don't like the sound of. "Annoyed" or "fed-up" would be good and interesting, but "jealous" is very un-Kevin-like, and it makes me a little punchy. OK, back to work... Taiyin GH/PC related mailing lists see Kevin & Lucy's Lighthouse: http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/lighthouse/front_door.html The Ultimate General Hospital/Port Charles Links Page: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9479/links.html "Chivalry is not only dead, it's condescending." -- Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicole Gummo Redo Subject: Re: K&L: Ms. Lucy Date: 17 Oct 1997 11:28:07 -0500 (CDT) On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Taiyin wrote: > Well, I don't know if it was just me or not, but yesterday Lucy seemed SO > strange and out of character to me. And, for the life of me, I can't put > my finger on what exactly I felt was wrong. While it seemed a bit out of whack to me I attributed it to a case of 'another straw coming close to breaking the camel's back' Serena gets kidnapped, she has a miscarriage, Scott's appears to be having problems, Kevin nearly dies and then she finds out that someone probably intentionally tried to harm Kevin. With all that going on I think it's fair to say that she's gonna be a little extra protective. Kevin's her rock and she needs that now more than ever. I kind of liked her in her 'touch my finacee and I'll destroy you' mode, especially with Chris. Lord helps the man or woman that messes with her company, her man, or her duck. It also could've come from the fact that this week started the episodes written by Lynn Latham, so it could just be her working the kinks out of her interpretation of the characters. A side note of this is that it appears that Michelle Val Jean is no longer listed in the credits, unless I'm missing them. > Of course she did go on to mention that Kevin was going to start becoming > "jealous" of Scott/Lucy, which I don't like the sound of. "Annoyed" or > "fed-up" would be good and interesting, but "jealous" is very > un-Kevin-like, and it makes me a little punchy. I dunno, considering Kevin's past comment of feeling like a spectator in the Lucy and Scotty show I could see him getting just a hint of that little green eyed monster. He noted that Lucy gives all her understanding to Scott who can just walk right into their home, toss accusations, storm out like a giant baby and Lucy shrugs it off, while Kevin could never get away with that. And I'm sure Lucy tossing a passionate evening to immediately run to Scott's aid doesn't help any. I don't think it's going to be the kind of jealousy that will put he relationship in any real danger, but I see it akin to how Lucy felt early on in the relationship when Felicia would call Kevin and he'd literally drop Lucy to be by Felicia's side. What scares me more is the little green eyed monster that seems to be forming in Lucy's eyes over Eve and Scott. Am I the only one who sees that look in Lucy's eyes and wonders? -Nicole "Scott gets hurt and Lucy transcends. Scott hurts Lucy and Lucy understands. Scott throws wild accusations at Lucy and Lucy still understands. Well, to hell with Scott Baldwin! There's only one person that I care about in this place and that's you" -Kevin to Lucy, Port Charles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Ms. Lucy Date: 18 Oct 1997 14:30:30 -0400 Hi all! First off, I'll explain that I may be somewhat absent for the next few weeks. In my "spare time" from grad school, I've been selected for a jury in a civil case that has been going on for almost a week (jury selection alone took 2 1/2 days) and is projected to last for another 2-3 weeks. So I'm in court all day and trying to keep up with school all night. But I had to respond to this! At 11:28 AM 10/17/97 -0500, Nicole wrote: > > >On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Taiyin wrote: > >> Well, I don't know if it was just me or not, but yesterday Lucy seemed SO >> strange and out of character to me. And, for the life of me, I can't put >> my finger on what exactly I felt was wrong. > > While it seemed a bit out of whack to me I attributed it to a case of >'another straw coming close to breaking the camel's back' Serena gets >kidnapped, she has a miscarriage, Scott's appears to be having problems, >Kevin nearly dies and then she finds out that someone >probably intentionally tried to harm Kevin. With all that going on I >think it's fair to say that she's gonna be a little extra protective. >Kevin's her rock and she needs that now more than ever. I kind of liked >her in her 'touch my finacee and I'll destroy you' mode, especially with >Chris. Lord helps the man or woman that messes with her company, her man, >or her duck. She seemed a little unlike herself to me too, but I agree with what Nicole said: I liked her in full protective mode. >It also could've come from the fact that this week started the episodes >written by Lynn Latham, so it could just be her working the kinks out of >her interpretation of the characters. A side note of this is that it >appears that Michelle Val Jean is no longer listed in the credits, unless >I'm missing them. No, she's gone. She was probably just there for the transition. A pity. >> Of course she did go on to mention that Kevin was going to start becoming >> "jealous" of Scott/Lucy, which I don't like the sound of. "Annoyed" or >> "fed-up" would be good and interesting, but "jealous" is very >> un-Kevin-like, and it makes me a little punchy. > > I dunno, considering Kevin's past comment of feeling like a spectator in >the Lucy and Scotty show I could see him getting just a hint of that >little green eyed monster. He noted that Lucy gives all her understanding >to Scott who can just walk right into their home, toss accusations, storm >out like a giant baby and Lucy shrugs it off, while Kevin could never get >away with that. And I'm sure Lucy tossing a passionate evening to >immediately run to Scott's aid doesn't help any. I don't think it's going >to be the kind of jealousy that will put he relationship in any real >danger, but I see it akin to how Lucy felt early on in the relationship >when Felicia would call Kevin and he'd literally drop Lucy to be by >Felicia's side. And Kevin has a history of jealousy. He often denies it at the time but admits it later. I thought he'd gotten past it, to where he trusted Lucy to such an extent that he wouldn't be jealous anymore, but he admitted to jealousy of her relationship with Scott when they had that big argument. This isn't the storyline *I* want to see, but I have to admit that it doesn't seem out of character. > What scares me more is the little green eyed monster that seems to be >forming in Lucy's eyes over Eve and Scott. Am I the only one who sees >that look in Lucy's eyes and wonders? No, you are not. The only thing is, it may not be a romantic sort of jealousy. At least, that's what I'm hoping. It may be more a case of her trying to be protective of Scott - and Serena, for that matter. What I *did* like, though, was Lucy's remarks in the elevator assuring Scott that he was *not* invited to her private dinner with Kevin. And I loved Kevin's little smile when Lucy mentioned the dinner. But where the heck WERE they on Friday's show? Wasn't it the same evening? And there we saw Gail and Serena in the lighthouse; were Kevin and Lucy upstairs. Also, a minor point, but did anybody notice that the invitations had the wrong address for the lighthouse? When Lucy moved in with Kevin, she clearly said that their address was "31 Circle Drive." The new writers apparently don't know that. What really worries me more is that the ONLY mentions of Kevin I've heard in quotes from Lynn Latham always involve "trouble for Kevin and Lucy." Some of the mentions have had to do with her relationship with Scott. SOU talked about Lucy "turning to Rex" in the coming months. I tend to think this will be a plot on her part to nail Rex for his evil deeds, but it doesn't spell much Kevin/Lucy screen time. Thus, Kevin needs a storyline of his own, and there's been no mention of any such thing. I know a lot of you hated the Cullitons, and I know it's too soon to draw any conclusions about Latham, but I'm not liking what I'm seeing and hearing so far where K&L are concerned. Whether or not you liked their storylines, Kevin and Lucy at the end of the Cullitons' regime were a stronger, more committed couple than they were when Claire Labine left GH. I wish I could be confident that I'll be able to say the same of Latham. Rika, aka Juror #3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: K&L: Kevin, Lucy, Chintz, and Celadon Date: 18 Oct 1997 15:18:19 -0400 It's the transcript for this week. This was another thoroughly delightful K/L episode. Enjoy! (BTW, should I keep posting these? If people are enjoying them, I will; if they're just wasting bandwidth, I'll stop) Rika KEVIN, LUCY, CHINTZ, AND CELADON - July 25, 1994 It's the day after Kevin and Lucy's first kiss. Kevin, dressed in his denim painting ensemble, is at home working on a painting, and the doorbell rings. Kevin looks towards the door. Lo and behold, it's Lucy. L: "Hi, it's me." K: "I knew that." L: "I knew you knew that, because I called first. See, see, I am not totally incapable." K: "I'm proud of you, too." L: "Thank you. So, why aren't you at work?" K: "Maybe I'm not as predictable as you think. I have been known to take the occasional day off." L: "Oh, really, and do what? Maybe golf, or tennis, perhaps?" (She wanders around to look at the canvas, and points at it in horror.) "You can't do that!" K: "What?" L: "You can't paint over somebody else's painting. That's plagiarism or something. You can't do that!" K: "Lucy, I'm afraid I'll have to take sole responsibility for that.... this..... these." (he gestures towards all his paintings) L: "No, no, no, wait a minute. I distinctly remember asking you about who the artist was and you - .... you asked me how I take my coffee." K: (sheepishly)"It gets awkward for me. People are always so shocked when they find out that I end up having to explain something that I'd really rather keep to myself. My work is very.... personal." L: "Well, it's also very strange. Where do you get this stuff?" K: "That's the one thing I don't analyze. You said something about fabric samples when you called?" L: "Oh, I did, I have them. Here, come, look." K: "This is it?" L: "Yes." K: "This is chintz." L: "Yes, I know." (They sit together on the sofa.) K: "No chintz. No chintz, not ever, forget it, no way. Not chintz." L: "Wait a minute, we're off to a very fine start here. I mean, you're already being resistant to a little type of fabric. Now, chintz is classic. It's very classic. In fact, it's become so classic it's downright trendy." K: "So what?" L: "So....." (Lucy looks into Kevin's eyes and gets a bit distracted) "What?" K: "Lucy, tell me something. When you woke up this morning, did you really have chintz on your mind?" L: "Obviously, because here I am, got swatches, right here." K: "Well, I admit they make a pretty good excuse." L: "If you are referring to the fact that we did share one little kiss -" K: "'Little' is not the way I'd describe it." L: "Okay, maybe I did make a bit of an understatement." K: "Well, maybe your memory needs refreshing. Shall we do it again?" L: "You're trying to distract me here." K: "How'm I doing?" L: "Well, I'll have you know I have an excellent memory, so there really is absolutely no need for us to repeat ourselves. That is not to say that you are not.... I enjoyed our kisses." K: "Well, here I am, willing and able." L: "You know, it's just, I don't want you to flatter yourself into thinking that the only reason I came over here was because of that... kiss." K: "Oh, I know. You're here about chintz." L: "Exactly, and I want a decision here." K: "Well, I've already made it." L: "What is with this unnatural aversion to a little type of fabric?" K: "You want the truth? Because this, this reminds me of my mother. This is not good. Besides, I want the place that I call home to be free of any kind of negative subliminal influences." L: "Oh boy. There you go again with that psychological hooha. You know, it comes out of you, just - my pal, the egghead." K: (annoyed) "You know, I really hate it when you call me that. And just because you don't understand something does not make it hooha." L: "Well, fine, oh please, Mr. Enlightened One, why don't you tell me, throw out your little pearls of wisdom so I can grasp whatever it is you want me to understand." K: "I'd be glad to." L: "Fine." K: "Close your eyes." L: "Why?" K: "Because I don't want any external stimulus to color your responses. Now close your eyes." L: "What is this, my lesson of the day?" K: "Mmm hmm, it's in how our surroundings can affect our well-being. Now, when I mention a room, you say the first thing that comes to your mind, and no fair thinking about it." L: "All right, this seems harmless enough. Go." K: "All right. Kitchen." L: "Food." K: "Not bad. Den." L: "Music, relaxation." K: "Porch." L: "Fireflies." K: "Attic." L: "Old clothes." K: "Bedroom." L: "Exhaustion." (Lucy's eyes fly open, and she starts attempting to back-pedal from this response, to Kevin's growing amusement.) L: "You know, I didn't mean it the way that it came out, because, you know, I know that you're going to interpret it as something wrong, but that's not what I meant. I meant that after, you know, a long hard day at work, you know, and you're really busy, and you just kind of fall between these nice clean sheets, and you've been, well, you know, like when you've cooked all day, or washed, or cleaned, and well, the oven, you know.... Kevin has settled back, arms folded, to listen to this; little gusts of laughter escape periodically. We fade to commercial. When we come back, Lucy is still talking: L: "I am just saying that 'exhaustion' popped out of my mouth because that's what you have when you're tired and working all day -" (Kevin finally lets out a loud laugh.) L: "What?" K: "I say 'bedroom', you say 'exhaustion.' I could analyze that till the middle of next week." L: "You know, that is an extremely annoying habit that you have, trying to find hidden meanings in everything. People just sometimes say things, you know. That's what I did - I just said something - I made an association with exhaustion with the bedroom because - you know why? Because I am exhausted from racking my brain trying to make your little house here livable. You don't even appreciate it." Lucy reaches for her fabric samples. Kevin, who is out of patience, grabs them from her and slams them back down on the coffee table. L: "Ow! What are you doing with my swatches?" K: "You can't hide behind fabric samples, Lucy!" L: "I haven't the vaguest idea what you're implying." K: "All right, then I'll spell it out for you. We are attracted to each other. That became painfully obvious the other night. But now it's morning and we've suddenly got an elephant in the room." L: "I don't see any elephant." K: "Yeah, we could do that, pretend it's not there. Sexual attraction is always inconvenient, especially when it takes you by surprise." (Kevin moves close to Lucy; he reaches out and gently brushes a strand of hair away from her cheek. She is clearly affected by his touch.) "But ignoring something doesn't make it go away. I think the more adult response would be to walk up to the elephant, look at it, touch it, befriend it, respect it certainly, even fear it a little. But I'll guarantee you, facing it takes a lot less labor than flimsy excuses like fabric samples or bric-a-brac just in order to go visit the zoo." L: (indignant)"Oh, you are unbelievably arrogant, do you know that -" Kevin interrupts Lucy in mid-rant: he takes her face in his hands and lays a serious kiss on her. She clings to him as they sink down to lie on the sofa together, kissing. Kevin breaks off the kiss and sits up. Lucy remains in a semi-reclined position on the sofa, as Kevin challenges her: K: "Now tell me you don't see an elephant." L: (breathless) "All right, I.... I see an elephant. I do. But... I admit it, I find you attractive. But it's because I like your mind; you have a very good mind." K: "You like me for my mind." L: (still breathless) "Yeah, I do. You know, and I see it as kind of a thing of, you know, driving down a mountain road, you know, that you never have really gone down before, with all these curves and twists, and you come along all these unexpected vistas, and you just blindly go around these corners, and come up on things, you don't even know where you're going, and somehow you just always get to where you need to be." K: "This is fascinating, Lucy." L: (sitting up) "Well, of course it is, because we're talking about you." K: "Don't let me interrupt." L: "Oh, all right, Doctor, do you need some more stroking?" (Lucy starts to move close to Kevin.) "All right, let's see. You are a fabulous kisser." K: "That takes two." L: "Who do you think invented kissing?" K: "I have no idea, but whoever it was should be sainted." (They are on the verge of kissing again, but Lucy suddenly stops them.) L: "I don't think so. Not until you answer one very important question." Kevin, who obviously had other activities in mind, rolls his eyes in annoyance and sits back, away from Lucy. K: "I don't like the sound of this already." L: "Oh, well, this should be a breeze for you, an old truth-sayer like yourself." K: "Well, let me have the question." L: "All right. I want to know exactly what is going on between you and Felicia." K: "Here we go again! Why can't you just give this a rest?" L: "Don't you go getting on your high horse with me! If you had answered me properly the first time I asked it, I wouldn't have to keep asking the same question over and over again." K: "Well, I have a question for you, Lucy. Are we going steady?" L: "Of course not!" K: "Are we an item? A couple? Boyfriend and girlfriend?" L: "You know, you are a master at evading the issues. What is that, some sort of occupational hazard?" K: "No, I am merely trying to establish a context for this unrelenting curiosity you have regarding my relationship with Felicia." L: "*You* just tried to kiss *me* for the third time. Is that enough context for you, buddy?" K: "That was good." L: "Thank you." K: "Fine, let's try another angle. How is my friendship with Felicia any different from your friendship with Damian?" L: "Damian?" K: "Damian." L: "Damian doesn't have anything to do with this at all because he drives me nuts, and I'm trying to get away from him. You, on the other hand, I don't see you running for cover every time Felicia comes sniffing around." K: "Felicia doesn't go around ruining lives for the sport of it. And as for the fact that you have to *try* and distance yourself from this man, well, that speaks volumes. So what does that make me, Lucy, your ticket out of hell?" (This is, and will remain for a very long time, a fundamental question for Kevin. He simply can't believe that he could attract and hold the interest of a woman like Lucy, and so he can't trust her motives where he and Damian are concerned.) L: "Here we are, back on the subject of you. Gee, I wonder how that happened?" They settle back at opposite ends of the sofa, both with their arms folded across their chests. They sit in disgruntled silence for a while, but then they begin to steal sheepish looks at one another. Lucy finally breaks the silence. L: "We're fighting again." K: "I know. Want to kiss and make up?" (Lucy motions Kevin over to her side of the sofa.) L: "I want you to listen very closely. Now, if it helps for you to watch my lips move, then by all means, do that." K: "I can do that." L: "Fine." (Kevin does indeed stare at Lucy's lips as she continues.) L: "Now, I will never, ever, ever, never kiss you again unless you make it crystal clear where things stand between you and Felicia." (Kevin sits back, exasperated. Lucy picks up her fabric swatches.) L: "All right, well, if you don't want to talk about it, that's fine -" K: "Look, can we do this in broad strokes, or do I have to rehash every single moment I've ever spent with the woman?" L: "You can spare me the details. I think generalities will do just fine." K: "Okay." (Kevin stands and begins to walk around.) "When I first came to Port Charles, everyone I ran into either physically assaulted me, or they made a snap judgment on me based solely on my resemblance to Ryan - except Felicia. And she was the one person who had every reason to be disgusted by me. Instead, she was kind, sympathetic, and she was generous enough to listen to me when, at times, all I could manage to talk about was the one man that she had hoped would disappear. She never castigated me, she never blamed me for the fact that she nearly lost her life due to my gullibility, and I found it to be a privilege to give something of myself back to her when her daughter was so ill. I love Felicia." (Lucy didn't much like any of this speech, but Kevin's last remark stops her cold. She responds, dejected:) L: "Well, geez, I'm sorry that I asked." K: "As a friend." (Lucy's eyes light up and she looks at Kevin.) L: "As a friend?" (Kevin nods.) L: "So, tell me, do you flirt with Felicia the same way you flirt with me?" K: "Lucy, I don't flirt with *anyone* the way I flirt with you." (They smile at each other in silence for a moment.) K: "Have dinner with me tonight." L: "Okay. Can I make a suggestion?" (Lucy stands up and walks towards Kevin.) K: "I'm open." L: "Celadon." K: "What is that, a restaurant?" L: "No, it's a color. In fact, it's very peaceful. You might even find it inspiring. Later, Doc." (Lucy walks past Kevin and heads for the door.) K: "I'll look forward to it." Kevin watches Lucy walk towards the door; he is totally absorbed by the view provided by Lucy's long, relatively form-fitting dress. Lucy turns around and sees Kevin watching her. L: "Caught ya!" (She leaves. Kevin puts one hand over his stomach and emits something midway between a laugh and a groan as he walks back to his easel.) K: "Oh, my, yes you have." The end! Next up - Kevin and Lucy's dinner date at the Outback. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicole799@aol.com Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin, Lucy, Chintz, and Celadon Date: 18 Oct 1997 20:42:24 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-10-18 15:21:00 EDT, you write: << (BTW, should I keep posting these? If people are enjoying them, I will; if they're just wasting bandwidth, I'll stop) >> NO...DON'T STOP!! :-) I really enjoy reading these every week. Thanks so much for transcribing them...and I apologize for not thanking you sooner! Nicole =========================== Visit the Nora and Bo Homepage! http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/6999 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicole Gummo Redo Subject: Re: K&L: Ms. Lucy Date: 19 Oct 1997 14:27:29 -0500 (CDT) On Sat, 18 Oct 1997, Rika wrote: > What I *did* like, though, was Lucy's remarks in the elevator assuring > Scott that he was *not* invited to her private dinner with Kevin. And I > loved Kevin's little smile when Lucy mentioned the dinner. But where the > heck WERE they on Friday's show? Wasn't it the same evening? And there we > saw Gail and Serena in the lighthouse; were Kevin and Lucy upstairs. I was wondering that too, but with time being so disjointed on the show I'm placing odds that Kevin and Lucy hadn't gotten home yet. > What really worries me more is that the ONLY mentions of Kevin I've heard > in quotes from Lynn Latham always involve "trouble for Kevin and Lucy." > Some of the mentions have had to do with her relationship with Scott. SOU > talked about Lucy "turning to Rex" in the coming months. I tend to think > this will be a plot on her part to nail Rex for his evil deeds, but it > doesn't spell much Kevin/Lucy screen time. Thus, Kevin needs a storyline > of his own, and there's been no mention of any such thing. > > I know a lot of you hated the Cullitons, and I know it's too soon to draw > any conclusions about Latham, but I'm not liking what I'm seeing and > hearing so far where K&L are concerned. Whether or not you liked their > storylines, Kevin and Lucy at the end of the Cullitons' regime were a > stronger, more committed couple than they were when Claire Labine left GH. > I wish I could be confident that I'll be able to say the same of Latham. I just picked up the ABC edition of Soap Opera In Depth last night and it has an interview with Latham. She does mention that the upcoming custody trial will shift to Lucy and her involvement in it. But she goes on to say that in regards to the whole Kevin/Lucy/Scott show that she does" believe that Lucy truly loves Kevin, but to have an old boyfriend of hers living with them is not the easiest thing for Kevin." I think any new head writer looking to make their mark on the show would exploit a situation that all but screams 'take advantage of me! I'm a triangle that deserves to be used for ratings and viewership!' I've got high hopes that once the shakedown period is over we'll see plenty of comedic romantic situations in between what looks like Lucy's one-woman war against Rex. As long as Lucy doesn't try a rehash of the ensuing debacle with Joe Scully it all should be good. -Nicole "Speaking of Kevin, how is he doing?" "Oh, he's wonderful and gorgeous as usual. I still can't figure out what I did to deserve him." -Bobbie and Lucy, General Hospital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Ms. Lucy Date: 19 Oct 1997 16:04:11 -0400 At 02:27 PM 10/19/97 -0500, Nicole wrote: >On Sat, 18 Oct 1997, Rika wrote: > >> What I *did* like, though, was Lucy's remarks in the elevator assuring >> Scott that he was *not* invited to her private dinner with Kevin. And I >> loved Kevin's little smile when Lucy mentioned the dinner. But where the >> heck WERE they on Friday's show? Wasn't it the same evening? And there we >> saw Gail and Serena in the lighthouse; were Kevin and Lucy upstairs. > >I was wondering that too, but with time being so disjointed on the show >I'm placing odds that Kevin and Lucy hadn't gotten home yet. Oh, you're probably right! I didn't think of that. The events of Thursday and Friday could actually have happened within a fairly short overall time span, I suppose. Maybe Lucy stopped on the way home to pick up some take-out from Cafe Matisse. > I just picked up the ABC edition of Soap Opera In Depth last night and it >has an interview with Latham. She does mention that the upcoming custody >trial will shift to Lucy and her involvement in it. But she goes on to say >that in regards to the whole Kevin/Lucy/Scott show that she does" believe >that Lucy truly loves Kevin, but to have an old boyfriend of hers living >with them is not the easiest thing for Kevin." Oh, you've *definitely* made me feel better! If the problem is primarily dealing with Kevin's insecurities, I'm okay with that. It's already been established that Kevin isn't crazy about Scott, and that he feels some amount of jealousy over Lucy's closeness with Scott. I'm primarily worried about romantic overtones between Scott and Lucy. First off, it would weaken the evidence of Lucy's commitment to Kevin, and might thus do permanent damage to them as a couple. But beyond that, Scott and Lucy have developed a bickering-siblings kind of relationship since he's been back. Anything romantic between them would feel almost incestuous to me at this point. > I think any new head writer looking to make their mark on the show would >exploit a situation that all but screams 'take advantage of me! I'm a >triangle that deserves to be used for ratings and viewership!' I know, and I was always impressed that the Cullitons resisted the urge, treating it in a more original way as a non-traditional triangle. I've got >high hopes that once the shakedown period is over we'll see plenty of >comedic romantic situations in between what looks like Lucy's one-woman >war against Rex. As long as Lucy doesn't try a rehash of the ensuing >debacle with Joe Scully it all should be good. Well said. I hope you're right! Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debi Sanders Subject: K&L: I hope NOT!! Date: 19 Oct 1997 22:00:42 -0500 I've been away on a cruise for a week and found this in my mailbox from on of my PC sources....has anybody else seen this......Yikes!! This is the November storyline preview for Port Charles. PORT CHARLES Will Lucy Replace Kevin With Rex? Kevin and Lucy just made a new commitment to one another, but the custody battle for Serena put another strain on their relationship. It might even become a big enough problem that Lucy begins to look elsewhere for love----like to Rex. According to PORT CHARLES's new headwriter Lynn Latham, "Rex will definitely be more directly involved with Lucy in the months ahead." It shouldn't be too hard to believe the chemistry between the two characters, since in real life, Lynn Herring (Lucy) and Wayne Northrop (Rex) have been married for 16 years. The duo look forward to working together on this exciting storyline. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Debi -- --------------------------------------------------------- Debi Sanders http://members.aol.com/DebiVF/THL.html "Come Visit" --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicole Gummo Redo Subject: Re: K&L: I hope NOT!! Date: 19 Oct 1997 22:53:22 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Debi Sanders wrote: > Will Lucy Replace Kevin With Rex? > > Kevin and Lucy just made a new commitment to one another, but the > custody battle for Serena put another strain on their relationship. > It might even become a big enough problem that Lucy begins to look > elsewhere for love----like to Rex. According to PORT CHARLES's new > headwriter Lynn Latham, "Rex will definitely be more directly involved > with Lucy in the months ahead." It shouldn't be too hard to believe > the chemistry between the two characters, since in real life, Lynn > Herring (Lucy) and Wayne Northrop (Rex) have been married for 16 > years. The duo look forward to working together on this exciting > storyline. Hmm....sounds like shades of Luke and Laura last year or so. I wasn't watcing GH religously then due to leadng the exciting life of a college student by day and campus tv show producer/writer/grunt by night, but I seem to remember they engineered a break-up in an attempt to get the goods on Stefan. And Lucy in the past has engineered seductions to get the goods on both Damian and Joe Scully if memory serves me correct. I wouldn't put it pasat Lucy to try the same thing again to get Rex out of the picture. I have read in other mags that Lucy is gonna start her own personal thing against Rex separate from the Lighthouse Gang. The writer in me says that we should maybe look forward to what looks like a breakup for Kevin and Lucy on the surface but deep down it's just part of Lucy's plan to reel Rex in and destroy him. And I wouldn't be further surprised if Lucy goes so far as not to really let Kevin in on what's going on to further cement the illusion of her being free for Rex. Or I'm just the eternal optimist. *shrug* -Nicole "We've been trying to stay based in reality." "Yeah, right. That's why there was that surgery with the drill." "The surgery kind of stretched it a little bit." -Jon Lindstrom and Eileen Davidson, Soap Opera News 10/7/97 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: Ms. Lucy Date: 20 Oct 1997 09:28:51 -0700 Rika wrote: >What really worries me more is that the ONLY mentions of Kevin I've heard >in quotes from Lynn Latham always involve "trouble for Kevin and Lucy." In this week's SOD she mentioned that she "loves" Jon and Lynn's comedic timing. By and large, though, I agree with your concern. >I know a lot of you hated the Cullitons, and I know it's too soon to draw >any conclusions about Latham, but I'm not liking what I'm seeing and >hearing so far where K&L are concerned. Whether or not you liked their >storylines, Kevin and Lucy at the end of the Cullitons' regime were a >stronger, more committed couple than they were when Claire Labine left GH. >I wish I could be confident that I'll be able to say the same of Latham. Me too. Lousy choice, really: Kevin & Lucy together with dreadful writing or Kevin and Lucy in trouble with decent writing. Honestly, I hated Cullitons writing so much, that I don't know which I'd prefer. OK, off to post my details of the Take a Cahnce With The Stars event from Saturday night in LA. It was lots of fun (it's not K&L reltated at all, so I'm not going to post it here; if you'd like to see it mail me privately and I'll send it to you). The only thing I'll say about it here is that I ended up with the ONE thing out of the silent auction that I REALLY wanted: Lunch with Denise (Rhonda) at the ABC studios and a two hour set tour of PC. In fact, I gotta call down there to see about making arrangements.... Taiyin GH/PC related mailing lists see Kevin & Lucy's Lighthouse: http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/lighthouse/front_door.html The Ultimate General Hospital/Port Charles Links Page: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9479/links.html "Chivalry is not only dead, it's condescending." -- Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jesaker@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: K&L: I hope NOT!! Date: 20 Oct 1997 12:55:33 -0500 (CDT) On 10/19/97 22:53:22 nicole wrote: > > Hmm....sounds like shades of Luke and Laura last year or so. I wasn't >watcing GH religously then due to leadng the exciting life of a college >student by day and campus tv show producer/writer/grunt by night, but I >seem to remember they engineered a break-up in an attempt to get the goods >on Stefan. And Lucy in the past has engineered seductions to get the goods >on both Damian and Joe Scully if memory serves me correct. > I wouldn't put it pasat Lucy to try the same thing again to get Rex out >of the picture. that sounds like a very possible (and much more positive!) interpretation. these stupid spoilers do that all the time...try and make it sound like one thing, when it's really something else. >The writer >in me says that we should maybe look forward to what looks like a breakup >for Kevin and Lucy on the surface but deep down it's just part of Lucy's >plan to reel Rex in and destroy him. And I wouldn't be further surprised >if Lucy goes so far as not to really let Kevin in on what's going on to >further cement the illusion of her being free for Rex. oooh. now THAT wouldn't make me happy. i'm not sure i would buy that at this stage in lucy's development. the old lucy--sure, yeah, in a heartbeat. but the new, evolved lucy, who knows just how much kevin means to her, and how important honesty is...i don't see her lying to kevin about something THAT important. sure, she did it during the kidnapping, but she was under direct orders at that point. in this situation, even where something as important as serena and scott are involved, i REALLY don't think (or at least i don't HOPE!) she'd go that route. julie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicole Gummo Redo Subject: Re: K&L: I hope NOT!! Date: 20 Oct 1997 13:46:48 -0500 (CDT) On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 jesaker@ix.netcom.com wrote: > oooh. now THAT wouldn't make me happy. i'm not sure i would buy that at > this stage in lucy's development. the old lucy--sure, yeah, in a > heartbeat. but the new, evolved lucy, who knows just how much kevin means > to her, and how important honesty is...i don't see her lying to kevin about > something THAT important. sure, she did it during the kidnapping, but she > was under direct orders at that point. in this situation, even where > something as important as serena and scott are involved, i REALLY don't > think (or at least i don't HOPE!) she'd go that route. Hmmm....shoulv'e further qualified that by saying that at the outset of the plot I could see her not telling Kevin. I see her maybe just breaking up with him in a major way in a public place like hte Outback for all off Port Charles and Rex to see. I mean the mother of all the breakups, the kind that intially leads Kevin to want to leave town. But while trying to leave he finds himself drugged and when he wakes up in the Lighthouse with Lucy. Lucy tells him that she's out to get Rex and fills him in for the most part her plan, explaining that she had to keep him in the dark to ensure the reality of what happened for Rex's sake. The you get this banter from Kevin about how it sound like a Luke and Laura plan and how neither of them have had the practice that Luke and Laura have had and that Rex is a lot more evil tha Stefan. *shrugs* Yeah, I've been spending way too much time plotting out this possible scenario in my head. But it gives me something to do other than homework late at night. ;) -Nicole ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: I hope NOT!! Date: 20 Oct 1997 12:12:52 -0700 >Will Lucy Replace Kevin With Rex? Taiyin has just passed out from, what appears to be, horrified shock. She does not look well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: K&L: Kevin/Lucy on 10/20 Date: 20 Oct 1997 18:33:36 -0400 My husband is looking at his watch and waiting for me, so I don't have time to say much, but I had to at least say this: If today's PC is any indication of what we can expect in the future, Kevin and Lucy are in VERY good hands with this new writing team. I can't wait to talk about this after the rest of you have seen it! Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin/Lucy on 10/20 Date: 20 Oct 1997 17:11:39 -0700 Rika wrote: >If today's PC is any indication of what we can expect in the future, Kevin >and Lucy are in VERY good hands with this new writing team. >I can't wait to talk about this after the rest of you have seen it! Rika, do you realize that the only time you ever say stuff like that is on days when I am SO exhausted that I was planning on going home and actually NOT watching until tomorrow? You just shot THAT one all to hell. Pfft. Taiyin, eagerly awaiting going home and seeing what's made Rika so happy "Blackjack is my game; I don't know how to play craps." --"Neither do I and I'm working the table. I'm doing pretty good at sliding the dice around the table, though." -- Me and Julie Pinson (Eve, PC) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin/Lucy on 10/20 Date: 20 Oct 1997 21:51:08 -0400 At 05:11 PM 10/20/97 -0700, Taiyin wrote: >Rika wrote: > >>If today's PC is any indication of what we can expect in the future, Kevin >>and Lucy are in VERY good hands with this new writing team. >>I can't wait to talk about this after the rest of you have seen it! > >Rika, do you realize that the only time you ever say stuff like that is on >days when I am SO exhausted that I was planning on going home and actually >NOT watching until tomorrow? > >You just shot THAT one all to hell. Pfft. By the time you read this, you'll have seen the episode. It was worth losing 30 minutes of sleep for, wasn't it???? I'll be back in court all day tomorrow (jury duty), so I'll gush a little bit right now. Today's show had ALL of the essential elements of the perfect Kevin/Lucy scene - humor, romance, and sensuality. There was even a tiny bit of pathos - not the heavy drama they've been playing for much of the past year and a half, but a little hint of sadness to lend the scene some depth. The thing I've always liked best about Jon and Lynn as Kevin and Lucy is that their range is amazing. I can't think of another soap couple that can make you laugh, sigh sentimentally, and cry - sometimes all in the same scene. Evidently Latham (or somebody on her staff) understands this. I haven't laughed that hard at a Kevin/Lucy scene since the Norma/Eve days. Everything that was wrong with the bathtub-in-the-hospital scenes was right with these scenes. The humor arose out of the characters and out of situations that were believable, instead of seeming contrived and silly. There were so many things that made me laugh that I lost count, but I suppose the top three were Kevin asking Lucy if they served #4 without anchovies, Scott's (and our) first glimpse of Kevin in Lucy's short flowered bathrobe, and Kevin howling at the moon when the room service guy knocked at the door. >Taiyin, eagerly awaiting going home and seeing what's made Rika so happy Oh, we're talking Dance of Joy here! >"Blackjack is my game; I don't know how to play craps." >--"Neither do I and I'm working the table. I'm doing >pretty good at sliding the dice around the table, though." > -- Me and Julie Pinson (Eve, PC) Sounds like fun! Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Ms. Lucy Date: 20 Oct 1997 22:08:45 -0400 At 09:28 AM 10/20/97 -0700, Taiyin wrote: >The only thing I'll say about it here is that I ended up with the ONE thing >out of the silent auction that I REALLY wanted: Lunch with Denise (Rhonda) >at the ABC studios and a two hour set tour of PC. In fact, I >gotta call down there to see about making arrangements.... Oh, WOW! Congratulations! We'll expect a full report after you return from THAT! I assume you'll make sure you schedule it for a day when Jon and Lynn are on the set! Rika "It's amazing - I kiss you and I still hear bells." -- Kevin to Lucy, 10/20/97 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NovaLee Murphy" Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin/Lucy on 10/20 Date: 20 Oct 1997 22:32:39 PDT Rika wrote: >I'll be back in court all day tomorrow (jury duty), so I'll gush a >little bit right now. Today's show had ALL of the essential elements >of the perfect Kevin/Lucy scene - humor, romance, and sensuality. >There was even a tiny bit of pathos - not the heavy drama they've >been playing for much of the past year and a half, but a little hint >of sadness to lend the scene some depth. The thing I've always liked >best about Jon and Lynn as Kevin and Lucy is that their range is >amazing. I can't think of another soap couple that can make you >laugh, sigh sentimentally, and cry - sometimes all in the same scene. >Evidently Latham (or somebody on her staff) understands >this. I haven't posted in ages but I *had* to extricate myself from my mid-term hell to say how absolutely *thrilled* I was with today's episode. Lynn Latham, on the job less than a week, has already shown that she understands perfectly what make Kevin & Lucy work. Although I'm glad the Cullitons kept K&L together, I always had the feeling they never really got what Kevin and Lucy were all about- when was the last time we got to see them having FUN and just enjoying each other's company and taking delight in being in love? This is such a big part of their appeal as couple. I want to see more!! >I haven't laughed that hard at a Kevin/Lucy scene since the Norma/Eve >days. Everything that was wrong with the bathtub-in-the-hospital >scenes was right with these scenes. The humor arose out of the >characters and out of situations that were believable, instead of >seeming contrived and silly. Exactly right. Latham must have watched a lot of tapes from the Labine days because today's scenes had *everything* that is classic Kevin and Lucy. If she keeps this up I will be one happy camper. NovaLee ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debi Sanders Subject: K&L: Lets let em know! Date: 21 Oct 1997 07:02:13 -0500 How about we all send a "rave" to the viewers voice for Port Charles? Yesterday episode certainly deserves one! http://www.abc.com/vvoice/index.html Debi -- --------------------------------------------------------- Debi Sanders http://members.aol.com/DebiVF/THL.html "Come Visit" --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Lets let em know! Date: 21 Oct 1997 08:55:13 -0400 At 07:02 AM 10/21/97 -0500, Debi wrote: >How about we all send a "rave" to the viewers voice for Port Charles? >Yesterday episode certainly deserves one! > >http://www.abc.com/vvoice/index.html Good idea! Some snail mail letters to Wendy Riche and/or Lynn Latham might be in order too. If anybody needs the address, let me know and I'll post it here. Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin/Lucy on 10/20 Date: 21 Oct 1997 08:58:23 -0700 >>You just shot THAT one all to hell. Pfft. > >By the time you read this, you'll have seen the episode. It was worth >losing 30 minutes of sleep for, wasn't it???? ABSOLUTELY! It was pure and perfect Kevin and Lucy. And it's been SO long since we've seen that. >some depth. The thing I've always liked best about Jon and Lynn as Kevin >and Lucy is that their range is amazing. I can't think of another soap >couple that can make you laugh, sigh sentimentally, and cry - sometimes all >in the same scene. Evidently Latham (or somebody on her staff) understands >this. Not to mention a basic, fundamental respect for their history. Through out all of this pregnancy and post-miscarriage stuff *Lucy* has never ONCE mentioned the fact that she has such a LONG history of miscarriages before. Kevin breifly touched on it with Mac that day at the lighthouse, but Lucy herself has never said a word about it. And yesterday she did. Her "all those miscarriages" line while she was practically in tears was incredible, not just because Lynn is always awesome and has a sensational range, but because it demonstrates that they are actually considering addressing that as an issue. And BECAUSE the audience has seen Lucy go through three seperate miscarriages over the years, it's not contrived like soaps often make it where all of a sudden a couple want a baby and can't have one because of fertility problems. We've seen this develop over the course of YEARS. And they aren't insulting the audience by assuming that we either don't know about it, or don't care. >There were so many things that made me laugh that I lost count, but I >suppose the top three were Kevin asking Lucy if they served #4 without >anchovies, Scott's (and our) first glimpse of Kevin in Lucy's short >flowered bathrobe, and Kevin howling at the moon when the room service guy >knocked at the door. Those were great. Although, I must confess, in my extreme sappiness I think I *loved* them gushing over Serena's drawing best of all. And their, "Kevin needs a nap" routine downstairs with Serena was hysterical, too. >>Taiyin, eagerly awaiting going home and seeing what's made Rika so happy > >Oh, we're talking Dance of Joy here! I easily saw why! >>"Blackjack is my game; I don't know how to play craps." >>--"Neither do I and I'm working the table. I'm doing >>pretty good at sliding the dice around the table, though." >> -- Me and Julie Pinson (Eve, PC) > >Sounds like fun! Not quite as much fun as when a guy walked past the table and told Julie to hold the little dice-mover-thingie-stick straight up in the air instead of horizontally over the table. She got this confused look on her face as he moved the stick upright. She sorta looked at him a second and then he said, "There, now you'll get cable" and walked away. Taiyin "No matter how many time I look at you, you always, always take my breath away." -- Kevin to Lucy, "Port Charles" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: Ms. Lucy Date: 21 Oct 1997 09:01:50 -0700 >>The only thing I'll say about it here is that I ended up with the ONE thing >>out of the silent auction that I REALLY wanted: Lunch with Denise (Rhonda) >>at the ABC studios and a two hour set tour of PC. In fact, I >>gotta call down there to see about making arrangements.... > >Oh, WOW! Congratulations! We'll expect a full report after you return >from THAT! I assume you'll make sure you schedule it for a day when Jon >and Lynn are on the set! You betcha!!! I can't wait. Pictures, lots and lots of pictures. And full, detailed reports! Taiyin "Oh gee, let's see. Who could have it? The butcher, the baker or the paralysis maker?" -- Luke, GH ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicole799@aol.com Subject: Re: K&L: Lets let em know! Date: 21 Oct 1997 13:33:47 -0400 (EDT) << At 07:02 AM 10/21/97 -0500, Debi wrote: >How about we all send a "rave" to the viewers voice for Port Charles? >Yesterday episode certainly deserves one! > >http://www.abc.com/vvoice/index.html >> I think this a great idea! When I tried to link I got an error message...the right address is: http://www.abc.com/soaps/email/index.html Nicole ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin/Lucy on 10/20 Date: 21 Oct 1997 18:27:38 -0400 At 08:58 AM 10/21/97 -0700, Taiyin wrote: >ABSOLUTELY! It was pure and perfect Kevin and Lucy. And it's been SO long >since we've seen that. Yes. There was some really nice stuff in the hospital after his surgery, but this was extraordinary. >Not to mention a basic, fundamental respect for their history. Through out >all of this pregnancy and post-miscarriage stuff *Lucy* has never ONCE >mentioned the fact that she has such a LONG history of miscarriages before. > Kevin breifly touched on it with Mac that day at the lighthouse, but Lucy >herself has never said a word about it. And yesterday she did. Her "all >those miscarriages" line while she was practically in tears was incredible, >not just because Lynn is always awesome and has a sensational range, but >because it demonstrates that they are actually considering addressing that >as an issue. Yes! It's about time something was said about that. >And BECAUSE the audience has seen Lucy go through three seperate >miscarriages over the years, it's not contrived like soaps often make it >where all of a sudden a couple want a baby and can't have one because of >fertility problems. We've seen this develop over the course of YEARS. And >they aren't insulting the audience by assuming that we either don't know >about it, or don't care. It'll be interesting what they find. We know she doesn't have any trouble *getting* pregnant, so it can't be anything in that vein. I just hope they aren't going to tell her she can't have a baby. >And their, "Kevin needs a nap" routine downstairs with Serena was >hysterical, too. Completely. Not to mention Kevin trying to yank his shirt off as we faded out on them at the PC Hotel. Rika "I'm not sure..... I'll ask. Do we serve the #4 without anchovies?" -- Kevin, 10/20/97 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: K&L: Scott's new house Date: 22 Oct 1997 23:07:06 -0400 So, Scott finally figured out that three's a crowd. About time. Too bad that spoilers indicate that he's not going to get the chance to move out any time soon after all. But I give him credit for finally recognizing the effect his presence has had on Kevin and Lucy, and realizing that it's time to move. I was also glad that we had the chance to learn that Lucy's distress at Scott's news was rooted more in her fears about the fertility tests than in unhappiness at Scott and Serena's departure. Now, let's keep our fingers crossed for good news from Dr. Newman!!!! Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Kirby Subject: K&L: Taiyin Date: 22 Oct 1997 22:17:34 -0500 (CDT) FYI: If anyone has mailed Taiyin today, she's home sick and has no e-mail access. She probably won't be back until Friday. So she's not ignoring you, she's just illin'. :( Jill *** Jill Kirby ~~ jtkirby@mcs.com ~~ www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/4107 NatPack ~~ ABotCoS ~~ NP4 ~~ Dreamer/Minstrel ~~ Wingman Moozine: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/3063 My lower lip is all trembly. ---sah ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: K&L: ADMIN: Quoting Reminder Date: 23 Oct 1997 14:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Friendly list ogre here, Please remember NOT to quote back volumes of previous posts when you reply; we've seen them too . Keep your quotation of another person's post to five lines or so. Thank you. --kg *** cagey@geocities.com * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1263 * I got my mojo workin' but it just don't work on you... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debi Sanders Subject: K&L: Spoiler Date: 25 Oct 1997 17:23:17 -0500 < < < < < < < < < < < < I recent spoiler I saw states: Lucy and Kevin go to the Cayman Islands to help Scott's case, and while there they devote a great deal of time to trying to conceive another child. GOODY!!!!! Debi -- --------------------------------------------------------- Debi Sanders http://members.aol.com/DebiVF/THL.html "Come Visit" --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: K&L: Long time no see Date: 25 Oct 1997 21:23:07 -0400 Just wanted to let you all know that when I wrote this I just put down any thought that came to mind. My statements have no logical order or arrangement. Hey folks I am having a major problem. I don't know why but All the mailing list mail hasn't been coming to my MSN e-mail account. I get a few messages now and then, but I don't receive the bulk of them. If I want to read them I have to read them @ one of my online mail accounts. That really sucks. I hate having to go on line to have to read my mail. Also, I am upset with my mother because she taped over my Nurses Ball 97 tape. She did it about a month ago. I didn't realize until I had my monthly Lucy and kevinathon this week. I went to see the Nurses ball, however it wasn't there. My mom thought she was helping by taping my daytime line up on one of my tapes. However she taped it on by nurses ball tape. I didn't realize the mistake until many weeks later when I actually looked at the title of the tape she taped it on. I almost cried. I loved the Nurses ball. S P O I L E R S P A C E I am so glad to hear about Lucy and Kevin's trip to the Caymans. I really want them to have this baby issue resolved. Will they be on location, or are the just going to make a Cayman Island set at the port Charles studio? I wonder how Lucy will feel if Eve and Scott get together, and Eve and Serena become good friends. I loved the way Serena called Lucy her best friend on Friday. Is it just me or does Scott's house look like Justus's house.I have missed so many episodes the past couple of months because of school, and because my VCR only works 1 day out of 20. I wonder if ABC will ever sell a complete set of all their GH and PC episodes. Ever since I fell in love with Lucy and Kevin, I have been having dreams of owning every single episode that Jon and Lynn have done. Well I think I will keep dreaming because the likelihood of ABC putting those tapes up for sale is either a slim or a fat chance. Does anyone have any of the Jasmine Island tapes in their possession, that they would be willing to make transcriptions of for me. Many people have asked me for them to put on my page. However I didn't have the foresight to tape those episodes ,so I can't do it myself jamila ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Spoiler Date: 26 Oct 1997 16:06:47 -0500 At 05:23 PM 10/25/97 -0500, Debi wrote: >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >I recent spoiler I saw states: > >Lucy and Kevin go to the Cayman Islands to help Scott's case, and while >there they devote a great deal of time to trying to conceive another >child. PLEASE tell me this is not a joke!!!!! If it's not, my cup runneth over! Rika (who is only skeptical because of a recent rumor about Joan Collins that started as a joke on RATSA, but then some people took it seriously and spread it to AOL and Prodigy where it was taken as fact) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Long time no see Date: 26 Oct 1997 16:10:04 -0500 At 09:23 PM 10/25/97 -0400, Jamila wrote: >Just wanted to let you all know that when I wrote this I just put down any >thought that came to mind. My statements have no logical order or >arrangement. That's my normal state of mental affairs! :) > Does anyone have any of the Jasmine Island tapes in their possession, >that they would be willing to make transcriptions of for me. Many people >have asked me for them to put on my page. However I didn't have the >foresight to tape those episodes ,so I can't do it myself I've been moving chronologically through 1994 with the transcripts I've been posting, but I'll interrupt that and insert some of the Jasmine Island stuff. Give me a few weeks, though. Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: K&L: Kevin, Lucy, and New Beginnings Date: 26 Oct 1997 16:55:27 -0500 KEVIN, LUCY, AND NEW BEGINNINGS - late July, 1994 It's evening of the day of Kevin and Lucy's second kiss. Lucy is rushing around her apartment singing, "Get ready, 'cause here I come," as she prepares for Kevin's arrival for their dinner date. She flashes back momentarily to their kiss earlier that day. The doorbell rings and she thinks it's Kevin, but it turns out to be Damian. Damian invites her to dinner at the Outback. She tells him that she is seeing Kevin now; Damian tries to convince her that she has no future with Kevin. Lucy tells Damian he's no good for her - he's destructive and dangerous, and she likes herself too much. She tells Damian to go; he promises not to hold this against her later when she changes her mind. Later, we see Lucy open the door; this time it's Kevin. L: "Hello." K: "Hello." (They both laugh nervously.) K: "Lucy, you.... you look wonderful." L: "Thank you. So do you." (Unfortunately, that's questionable - the suit he's wearing has a horrid, loose-fitting vest. But that's Wardrobe's fault.) K: "Thank you." L: "Want to come in?" K: "Yes, thank you." L: "Would you like something to drink?" K: "Would you have any Akavit?" L: "Aky-what?" K: "I didn't think so. I'll bring a bottle over next time." L: "You know what I do have - I have champagne, lots and lots of champagne. I somehow feel like bubbles tonight." K: "Then, bubbles it is." (Kevin heads over to open the champagne; Lucy stops him.) L: "No, no, no, no, no. Please, go sit down and make yourself comfortable on the couch. I've got this," (she reaches for the champagne), "and I want you to take a look at that swatch on the top there. How do you like the color?" K: "Don't tell me. Celadon?" (Said in a lisping tone) L: "Well, I thought, since you paint, you know, it's such a soothing color. You could use it maybe for a loft or a studio or wherever you do what you do." K: "Perfect. But why stop with the walls? Why don't we just do the ceilings, the floors, we'll do the entire room in celadon. Nice, peaceful celadon. Oh, but why stop there? We can have hundreds, no, thousands of little Oriental ceramics. We'll create kind of a Japanese rock garden effect. You know the kind I mean - you never see everything, no matter what your vantage point. And origami - tons, tons of origami." (He sits on the couch) "Oh, I tell you, when I think of the Zen-like effect of the whole thing...." (Kevin pretends to fall asleep; his head falls to the side and he makes snoring noises. Lucy grabs a grape off a plate and whips it at him. He flinches and sits up, grinning mischievously.) K: "Oh, sorry, the thought was just so damn relaxing." L: "You are making fun of me." K: "Well, can you blame me?" (Lucy comes over to the couch carrying two glasses of champagne.) L: "Take this, quick, before I dump it on your head." K: "Thank you." L: "You know, you're very inconsistent, Doctor." K: "How's that?" L: "Well, because you're always accusing me of thinking that the whole center of world should be me, and now I finally put you and your environmental well-being in the forefront, and you laugh at me." K: "Well, maybe it's because I'm beginning to get the idea that this whole decoration project is somehow going to become about you. Lucy, chintz and 'theladon'? I mean, you're beginning to scare me." L: "Well, you want to hear something really scary? Somebody stopped by and asked me out for an evening." K: "Oh, do I have to ask?" L: "It was Damian. Do you know, he had the nerve to just come in here and think that I would drop everything and tag along happily, running after him. But I told him I already had plans, and I also told him they were with you. Was that okay?" K: "Of course." L: "Well?" K: "Well, what?" L: "Well, I told him I'd rather have plans with you. How does that make you feel, Doctor?" K: "Well, that depends. Did you do it to prove a point?" L: "No, I did it because I would rather be with you." K: "Then I'm flattered." L: "And pleased?" K: "Very, very pleased." (Kevin lifts his champagne glass for a toast.) "To new beginnings?" L: "New beginnings." (They clink glasses and drink their champagne, their gazes locked together.) Later, we see Kevin and Lucy sitting at a table at the Outback, totally engrossed in each other. Mac walks up to the bar, where Robin is working. She asks Mac: R: "So what's up with Kevin and Lucy?" M: "What do you mean?" R: "They've been staring at each other's mouths ever since they got here." M: "Really?" And indeed they are. They are sitting *very* close together, leaning towards each other. Kevin's arm is draped over the back of Lucy's chair. L: "So, we should probably order kisses." K: "Do they have those on the menu? By all means." L: "Dinner. I meant we should order dinner." K: "Oh, yeah, that." When we see them again, they're sitting further apart. Kevin remarks: K: "What I'm saying is, the type of attention a man like Damian can give you can be addictive. He's exciting, unpredictable, dangerous." L: "Well, if you think I have some sick need to have constant danger in my life, you're absolutely wrong." K: "And if you think I'm a safe alternative, so are you." Luke stops by their table; Lucy introduces Luke and Kevin. Luke razzes Lucy briefly about the bet with Damian and then heads over to sit with Sean and Tiffany. Not long after, Kevin and Lucy are laughing about something when Damian arrives at the Outback and approaches their table. L: "Well, are you deliberately trying to annoy me, or is it your brain? Does it have some lock that refuses to let you understand the word no?" D: "Well, if you recall it was always my intention to come here tonight." L: "Good. Then why don't you run along and spread your cheer somewhere else." K: "Now, Lucy, there's no need to be rude." (To Damian) "Please, sit down." (Lucy glares at Kevin; he winks at her.) L: "I'm so sorry, Damian. Of course, I don't mean to be rude. Do join us." (Damian takes the extra chair at the table, pulls it over close to Lucy, and sits down.) D: "Thank you. So, from what Lucy's been telling me, it sounds like the two of you are getting rather chummy." K: "Chummy? Oh, actually I'd say it's gone a bit further than that." D: "I'm amazed. I had a hard time taking the lady seriously. The two of you don't seem at all compatible." K: "Now how do you make that assumption, given that you know nothing at all about me, or what I'm about?" D: "But I know Lucy. And I wouldn't get too attached if I were you - the lady turns on a dime." K: "Oh, now I see where this is coming from. You're having a rather petulant response to the fact that she's all done with you." D: "Oh, well, now that's what she says." L: "Kevin, would you be so kind as to perhaps get us some different drinks - and just for us, the two of us. He won't be here when you get back. I just want one last private moment with Damian." K: "Of course, my dear. Damian, you should listen to her. She means it this time." D: "Ah." Kevin leaves the table and goes to sit at the bar. Lucy tells Damian, "I want you the hell out of my life." Damian insists that Lucy will be "bored silly in two weeks." Lucy says that Kevin is "anything but boring" and tells Damian to get lost. Damian gets up from the table, walks over to the bar where Kevin and Luke are both sitting, pats Kevin's shoulder, and insolently remarks: D: "Well, she's all yours, pal. Get her while she's hot." K: "Hey!" (Damian, who had been walking away, turns back. Kevin stands up and faces Damian.) K: "You watch your mouth about her, unless you think you haven't already bought enough trouble for yourself in this town." D: "My, my, and who was it who prematurely pronounced chivalry dead?" (Damian, smirking, walks away. Luke has been watching this exchange with interest. He remarks to Kevin:) Luke: "Smarmy little weasel, isn't he?" (Kevin smiles in response, and turns to Robin.) R: "Wow, I had to hold my breath for a second. I thought you were going to deck him." K: "Well, I wouldn't rule it out." (Yes, Robin, just wait for about a year and a half.) R: "So what's up with you and Lucy?" K: "To be honest, I'm not sure. But whatever it is, it's nice." Kevin returns to his table, where Lucy is standing, waiting for him. He kisses her gently, and they sit back down. L: "You know, I don't think anybody has ever defended my honor before. That's a first." (Kevin stretches his arm over the back of Lucy's chair.) K: "I keep telling you, Lucy, you're hanging out with the wrong men." L: "You might be right. You think I'm a lady. I like that." That's the last we see of them, except for one or two brief shots of them, looking very cozy and intimate together at their table later in the evening. ---------- Rika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: K&L: Re: Kevin, Lucy, and New Beginnings Date: 27 Oct 1997 06:33:27 -0500 Rika Thank You so much for posting that. That is one of my all time favorite episodes. I had that on tape for about a year. However I was in a pinch and needed to tape over it. Thank you. Jamila Gooden ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debi Sanders Subject: K&L: Spolier Date: 26 Oct 1997 18:36:00 -0600 < < < < < < < < < < Rika I think the spolier about L & K and the Caymun Islands is legit. this is the address to see it http://www.ghhotline.com/15thfloor.html Go to the Morgue from there and then to Additional Scoops for the November Sweeps where this is listed. Debi -- --------------------------------------------------------- Debi Sanders http://members.aol.com/DebiVF/THL.html "Come Visit" --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: K&L: PC today Date: 28 Oct 1997 03:32:58 -0500 I missed PC today. Can someone give me a recap? Jamila ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: K&L: This week's homework break... Date: 28 Oct 1997 09:22:22 -0800 Briefly: I am not, and never have been, a sucker for kids -- even cute ones. And on more than a few occasions Calry Schroder (sp?), while definitely a cutie, has struck me a "typical child actress" (including once yesterday when she started crying at the end of the ep sitting across the table from Doc). BUT the one thing that I *am* a sucker for is GUYS who go ga-ga over kids (such logic!!). And yesterday on PC when Kevin was talking to Serena and trying to make her feel better -- or when she hugged him when he and Lucy arrived (and I LOVE that she said, "Lucy! Kevin! I'm so glad you're here!" -- the fact that she included both of them was wonderful!)... Forget it, I was a pathetic puddle of goo. He was SO precious with her that I actually "cooed" out loud. I'm glad nobody else was home, it would have been hell on my reputation. ;-) Anyway, I LOVE that they are working on giving Kevin and Serena their OWN relationship -- independent of Scott and Lucy. I think that is especially important for Kevin, it might help prevent him from feeling too left out later. And, I just have to quickly add, I really adored the little Spice Girl routine with Karen and Serena on Friday, with Scott. And Kevin and Lucy watching it was great. I HATE the Spice Girls, but the whole sequence was delightful. And I really loved the commentary between Kevin and Lucy where they were discussing their family... and Scott. ;-) And, while it is most certainly far too soon to be touting Lynn Latham's horn, I also have to say that the difference in writing (conbined with editing -- the cutting back and forth between Scott/Conchlan and Rex/Danielle yesterday was very nice, which was undoubtedly scripted and not just the whim of the director) is PAINFULLY obvious. And I am incredibley grateful because the little interpersonal things are being played out instead of brushed over, and I love it. OK, back to work... Taiyin "I think Brenda should turn into a radical lesbian feminist and hold rallys at PCU where she decries the patriarchal society that's controlling Port Charles, and burns ceremonial dummies representing the moronic male power figures (Edward, Alan, Stefan, Sonny)." -- Jill, about GH's Brenda ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Spolier Date: 28 Oct 1997 20:02:27 -0500 At 06:36 PM 10/26/97 -0600, Debi wrote: >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >Rika I think the spolier about L & K and the Caymun Islands is legit. >this is the address to see it http://www.ghhotline.com/15thfloor.html >Go to the Morgue from there and then to Additional Scoops for the >November Sweeps where this is listed. And since you posted it I've seen it elsewhere too. It just sounded MUCH too good to be true! So, do we have any speculation on the meaning of the spoiler for next week that says, "Kevin and Lucy receive bad news"? If it weren't for the Caymans spoiler (including reference to conceiving a child), I'd think it had to do with Lucy's fertility tests. Rika - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: PC today Date: 28 Oct 1997 20:04:25 -0500 At 03:32 AM 10/28/97 -0500, Jamila wrote: >I missed PC today. Can someone give me a recap? > Jamila I was the Tuesday updater for RATSA. I've e-mailed Jamila a copy of the update. So nobody else needs to write anything up for her. Rika - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: This week's homework break... Date: 28 Oct 1997 20:19:14 -0500 At 09:22 AM 10/28/97 -0800, Taiyin wrote: >And yesterday on PC when Kevin was talking to Serena and trying to make her >feel better -- or when she hugged him when he and Lucy arrived (and I LOVE >that she said, "Lucy! Kevin! I'm so glad you're here!" -- the fact that >she included both of them was wonderful!)... YES!!!!! Loved the whole thing! He was adorable with her. I REEEEALLY want to see him with a daughter of his own. And as to your comments about Latham's episodes so far, I have to agree - so far, so good! Rika - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PoohCrew@aol.com Subject: Re: K&L: Spolier Date: 29 Oct 1997 03:52:43 -0500 (EST) First of all I wanted to say "Hello. Remember me?" I was taken, cruelly, from my list when my monitor decieded to commit suicide. Everything is better now and I will attempt to add my two cents in occasionally. The Cayman Island news is really good. I am sincerely hoping that something good will happen to them for once. They are the most heavenly couple of weirdos and I want them to have a happy ending.....who doesn't right? Speculation on the bad news........Maybe Rex and Dainelle are able to obtain temporary custody of Serena. That would be bad, right? Well, that is just my guess and worst case senario......besides, I refuse to think about Lucy and Kevin not able to have kids. What do you think? Chessy "I like the way that you look in my house." Kevin "General Hospital" "We love who we love. I don't know how much choice we have in the matter. It always seems to defy logic. Thank God." Kevin about Lucy "General Hospital" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: K&L: FIC: Winging It Date: 29 Oct 1997 17:20:49 -0800 Well, this is all Rika's fault. She made that comment about wanting to s= ee Kevin with his own daughter and this is what happened. Warning: it's off the sappiness meter. It's gushy, mushy and sappy, sappy, sappy. Standard disclaimers apply: I'm only playing, I'll return them when I'm done. No harm, no foul. Taiyin ****** "Winging It" by Taiyin The nurse said she was sleeping, both of them were. It did not matter, though. He did not need to wake them, he just wanted to see them. Pushi= ng the door open slowly, Kevin softly padded into the room. He stopped firs= t at Lucy=92s bedside. Gently he stroked the back of her hand before leani= ng to kiss her forehead. She rolled onto her side, moving toward him. "Sle= ep well, my love. You earned your rest today," he said as he brushed a stra= y lock of hair from her brow. Letting go of his wife=92s hand, he walked around the bed to the small c= rib standing in the corner of the hospital room. He reached for a chair, lowering himself to her height. "Hard to believe something as tiny as yo= u could cause your mother as much pain as you did," he whispered, running h= is fingertip across his daughter=92s tiny hand. In her sleep, the baby grab= bed Kevin=92s finger and held it firmly. "Definitely your mother=92s daughte= r," he smiled, thinking of all the times Lucy had reached for him in her sleep. Kevin tore his eyes away from the infant just long enough to scan the room. Gifts from friends -- the Baldwins, Scorpios, Spencers, and others -- all lined the shelf above the crib. "Look at that, little one, less than a day old and you=92re already the most popular little girl around." Kevin rested his chin on the edge of the crib. "You sure gave me a scar= e today -- you and your mom, both. I was terrified -- when they had to operate and they kicked me out of the delivery room, boy was I scared. S= he wasn=92t scared, though. You lucked out, young lady, your mother is the bravest person I=92ve ever met. I don=92t think she ever doubted that yo= u=92d both be just fine." Kevin sighed. "I should have learned by now, though= , not to doubt her instincts. She just knew you were a girl, ya know? Yup. She was positive. We didn=92t want the doctor to tell us -- not that it would have mattered. Lucy knew that you were a girl. I didn=92t have a = clue one way or the other. It didn=92t matter, really. I just wanted you to = be ok. Your mom, too. I don=92t know what I would have done if anything happened to her -- or you." Kevin heard Lucy=92s sheets ruffle. He turned around, but she was still sleeping peacefully. Turning back to his daughter, Kevin said, "We=92ve = got to be quiet. I don=92t want to wake your mom up just yet -- I=92m sure t= hat you=92ll be doing enough of that in the near future. She should sleep wh= ile she can." Her grip on Kevin=92s finger loosened and he raised his hand t= o brush back her thin, fine hair. "I wonder what color your eyes are going to be," he mused softly. "You know," he started, "as beautiful as you are, you scare the daylight= s out of me. I bet that sounds pretty strange, doesn=92t it? Your great b= ig daddy is scared of a tiny little precious thing like you? It=92s true, though. You know, your Grandpa Victor didn=92t really teach me much abou= t how fathers and children are supposed to interact. I=92m going to be win= ging it here for a while, so I hope you can cut me a little slack now and then= ." The little girl=92s eyelashes fluttered half open. Kevin watched in sil= ence as she smacked her gums noisily and then yawned. He smiled and said, "If you=92re even half as much like your mother as I suspect, you=92re probab= ly starving." She closed her eyes again; her breathing slowed and she was once again asleep. "Maybe not," he grinned, gently rubbing her small bac= k. "I still can=92t believe you=92re here already," he sighed, leaning clos= er. "I was just getting used to feeling you kick around in your Mommy=92s tum= my. Now look at you. You=92re here, all safe and sound and in one beautiful, healthy, glorious piece. I must be the luckiest man in the world to have the two most beautiful women in the world. You are, you know? Just like your mom." Kevin heard the door open and turned to see who it was. "Hi Victor," he whispered as he motioned toward Lucy, still sleeping soundly. Turning ba= ck toward the baby, Kevin said, "Hey there, little one, this is your grandpa. Do you remember him from this afternoon? He came to see you again." "Well hello there, young lady," Victor said softly. "Goodness, I think you=92ve gotten bigger already!" Putting his hand on Kevin=92s shoulder = he said, "She=92s incredible, Monk." "Yes, she is." Kevin smiled. "She probably takes after Lucy." "I=92ll go," Victor said. "I just wanted to say goodnight and see if yo= u needed anything before I left." "No, Victor, but thank you, anyway." Kevin listened as the door closed behind his father. To the baby again, he said, "That was your grandpa th= at I was talking about. I=92m not sure I learned exactly what to do to be a good father from him, but he=92s been trying to teach me now. He sure do= es love you, though. He was the one who was with your mother when you decid= ed that it was time to come kicking and screaming into the world. He brough= t your mom here to the hospital and then came running up to my office to te= ll me you were on your way." Kevin looked at Lucy again. "He sat with me while the doctors were busy trying to make sure that you and your mom wer= e all right -- and so did your Uncle Mac." Kevin smiled and nodded toward the stuffed koala bear on the shelf. "Your Uncle Mac and Aunt Felicia ar= e the ones who gave you that fuzzy thing up there. And this one," Kevin reached for the picture frame next to the koala. "This one is from your big sister, Serena." Kevin pointed to the picture. "See this? This is Serena, and you know what she was doing there? She was talking to you while you were in your mommy=92s tummy. She thought that was so cool -- = that you were in there. She would talk to you all the time. And the bigger M= om got, the happier Serena got." Kevin put the picture back on the shelf. "I guess, of course, Mac isn=92= t really your uncle and Serena isn=92t really your sister. But see, when someone doesn=92t have any family, like your mom and I for a very long ti= me, your friends become very important. You had a real uncle, once." Kevin=92= s gaze wandered out the dark window. "I remember when we were very, very young. We were best friends. We were like one person almost. Not for long, though." Kevin looked back at his daughter. "I hope you have enou= gh of your mother in you to make up for whatever bit of your uncle I accidentally gave you. Your mommy can be a little crazy sometimes, but s= he is still the best thing that ever happened to me. And I pray every day that you grow up to be more like her than like me." "Doc," Lucy mumbled. "Hey," Kevin rose and moved to Lucy=92s side. "I thought you were aslee= p." "Hhhmmm," Lucy sighed. "I was, but I heard your voice." "I=92m sorry. I was just getting to know this little miracle of ours." "Isn't she the most incredible thing you=92ve ever seen?" "Right after you, yes." Kevin smiled as he sat on the edge of Lucy=92s = bed. "You should go back to sleep, Mrs. Collins. This little lady of ours isn=92t going to let you sleep for the next several months, you should ta= ke advantage of the silence while you can." "I know." Lucy reached for Kevin=92s hand. "She *is* perfect, you know= ?" she said pointedly. "I=92m counting on it," Kevin answered. He smiled, "And even if she weren=92t, it wouldn=92t matter because you would take as good a care of = her as you always have of me." "I guess that=92s what families are supposed to do, isn=92t it Doctor?" "I guess so." Kevin looked back at the crib. "We=92ll just have to fig= ure this out as we go along." Lucy curled up snugly on her side, holding Kevin=92s hand against her ch= est. "Piece of cake," she said. "We can do anything, Doc. We=92ve proven it over and over and over again. Don=92t doubt it for a second." "I won=92t." Kevin leaned back against the pillow and watched both of h= is women sleep. The End -