From: TC8870@aol.com Subject: K&L: Spoiler regarding K&L (trying not to dance a quick jig) Date: 04 Dec 1998 01:33:53 EST Okay this came from Soap Opera Digest..... always make sure there's a enough space * * * On December 15 a feverish Lucy (feverish because she been infected by the virus) tells Scott that she wants (to have) Kevin's baby. *cleansing breath* I am not going to get excited about this--*tee-hee* because this obvious part of some diabolical plot to drive me INSANE. LOL Angel.... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debi Sanders Subject: Re: K&L: Spoiler regarding K&L (trying not to dance a quick jig) Date: 04 Dec 1998 02:52:19 -0600 TC8870@aol.com wrote: > Okay this came from Soap Opera Digest..... > > always > make > sure > there's > a > enough > space > * > * > * > On December 15 a feverish Lucy (feverish because she been infected by the > virus) tells Scott that she wants (to have) Kevin's baby.. .. OOOOOo Baby! Can't you just see Scotts face? Is this another near death situation for Lucy? When O when is Kevin going to come to his senses and fight for the woman he loves? Debi > > > > > - -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Debi Sanders http://members.aol.com/DebiVF/THL.html "come visit" (ë¿ë) ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rynosfan@juno.com (Paula G Morey) Subject: Re: K&L: Spoiler regarding K&L (trying not to dance a quick jig) Date: 05 Dec 1998 21:46:31 -0600 Please be advised that after Monday this Juno email address will no longer be valid. My NEW email address will be: rynosfan@netnitco.net Please start using this new email address ASAP !!! Thanks in advance & Happy Holidays. Ryno's fan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barbara Cullen Subject: K&L: RE: K&L Date: 09 Dec 1998 18:59:50 -0500 s p o i l e r s p a c e According to www.mystories.com under latest scoops. There is some great news regarding Kevin and Lucy. They are to be reunited in early 1999. If you don't believe me check it out for yourselves. This news was too good not share. Tracey - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: K&L: RE: K&L Date: 10 Dec 1998 06:04:15 -0800 (PST) At 06:59 PM 12/9/1998 -0500, Barbara Cullen wrote: >s >p >o >i >l >e >r > >s >p >a >c >e > >According to www.mystories.com under latest scoops. There is some great >news regarding Kevin and Lucy. They are to be reunited in early 1999. What a clever plan--deprive us of Kevin and Lucy together for the holidays, and make sure that those of us who can't stomach Lucy and Scott continue to NOT WATCH until next year. They certainly deserve a pat on the back for that. Grump. --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: RE: K&L Date: 10 Dec 1998 13:46:47 -0500 At 06:04 AM 12/10/98 -0800, Cagey wrote: >At 06:59 PM 12/9/1998 -0500, Barbara Cullen wrote: >>s >>p >>o >>i >>l >>e >>r >> >>s >>p >>a >>c >>e >> >>According to www.mystories.com under latest scoops. There is some >>great news regarding Kevin and Lucy. They are to be reunited in >>early 1999. > >What a clever plan--deprive us of Kevin and Lucy together >for the holidays, and make sure that those of us who can't >stomach Lucy and Scott continue to NOT WATCH until next >year. They certainly deserve a pat on the back for that. You know, I can't stomach Lucy and Scott either but it's still been worth watching (except for the whole false-pregnancy thing, which I couldn't tolerate). When L&S get to be more than I can handle, I just start FF'ing. Meanwhile, there are rewards for my perserverance. First off, Lucy has kept Scott physically at bay ever since they got back to Port Charles. He keeps pushing, but she keeps wriggling out of his grasp. Second, she makes no secret of the fact that she still cares about Kevin (except to Kevin himself). Scott is choosing to ignore it as much as he can, but I have to think that he's suffering lots of blows to his overblown ego every time Lucy sighs over Kevin. Third, we recently learned that Lucy has a better grasp on what's going on than I had thought. Scott, in my admittedly-biased mind, is being set up as a bit of a bad guy. He is using Serena to manipulate Lucy into sticking around. Every time she makes noises about moving out of the firehouse, he trots out the subject of Serena and how much she needs Lucy, etc. Lucy has mostly been falling for it, but on Monday she stood pat. She told Scott that she felt that what they were to one another was "safety." They had been friends forever, etc., etc., and Lucy's connection to Dominique meant that, by keeping Lucy around, Scott could hang onto Dom instead of letting her go and taking a risk on loving again. Lucy said that "safe" wasn't enough for her - she had come to understand that she wanted love and marriage - and that she knew sooner or later she would move out. So she thought that "sooner" was the right answer for Serena's sake as well as her own. Scott, being the idiot he is, denied it all, but he finally seemed to be accepting that she was moving out. Then she caught the flu bug that is (as you may know) the big story now. Lucy is presently in the hospital, gravely ill, so her living arrangements are moot for the time being. Fourth and finally, the few K/L scenes we get are just lovely. There was a sweet one the Monday after Thanksgiving, and a beautiful one today in the hospital. Kevin came to visit Lucy, and it was almost as though they had never been apart. Granted, Scott showed up soon thereafter. BUT, there was another spoiler (and I'm assuming that secondary spoiler space isn't necessary at this point since this whole message is under a spoiler warning) indicating that Scott is going to hear Lucy say that she wants to have Kevin's baby. My guess, off-hand, is that she's going to be delirious and mistake Scott for Kevin. I personally am looking forward to that! I read a spoiler elsewhere suggesting that Eve might overhear the same thing, which would mean that she would be the one person in a position to fix this whole mess. She already knows that Kevin still cares about Lucy, and that he is only staying away from Lucy because he believes that Lucy has chosen Scott. If she found out that Lucy still loved Kevin, then she would be in possession of all the missing pieces. The question is, what would she do about it? If she wants Scott back (and frankly, I think she could do better), her best option would be to reunite Kevin and Lucy post-haste. But if she decides that she has no chance left with Scott regardless, and that Kevin is a better choice, who knows.... Rika - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TC8870@aol.com Subject: K&L: (Lots of Spoilers & Previews) Date: 11 Dec 1998 21:19:49 EST Just in case some people want to be kept in the dark Got a few spoilers for you guys. First of all HOORAY!!!!! According to www.mystories.com Kevin & Lucy will reconcile their differences and REUNITE (and feels oh so good) in early 99. Not sure where this leaves Eve & Scott. Some of us were to scared to believe this was true but a fan said it was comfirmed when she heard the editor of Soap Opera Update who does a weekly stint on the radio say that former lovers Scott & Lucy would not be together.. What else? The week of December 14 sounds pretty exciting for Kevin & Lucy and the rest of the gang doing battle with the dead virus. A delirious Lucy (thinking Scott is Kevin) tells him that she should have never slept with Scott and that she wants to have Kevin's baby. Dang Scotty that's gonna hurt like the dickens! Look for that to go down I believe December 15. Also Kevin takes extreme measures to save everyone from BLACK DEATH and it could possible cost him everything: According to SON--Kevin becomes a willing human subject when injected with the virus (to how it works) and becomes DEATHLY ill! And the race is on to find a cure before its to late. Eve tends to Lucy who is upset and worried to hear about Kevin's grave condition. Also December 21, finds Lucy confused about Scott coolness towards her (obviously she doesnt remember what she said in her delirium). Am I the only one who's hoping that Kevin gets deathly critical hovering near death? Body raged by fevers, chills and seizures.tubes hanging all out of him! In his weakened delirious state calls out gasping Lucy's names who keeps vigil by his bedside..... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: (Lots of Spoilers & Previews) Date: 11 Dec 1998 22:28:38 -0500 At 09:19 PM 12/11/98 EST, you wrote: >Just >in >case >some >people >want to >be kept >in the >dark > >Some of us were to scared to believe this was true but a fan said it was >comfirmed when she heard the editor of Soap Opera Update who does a weekly >stint on the radio say that former lovers Scott & Lucy would not be together.. I'm glad to hear that confirmation, since I've heard some people question whether or not mystories.com is 100% accurate. >Am I the only one who's hoping that Kevin gets deathly critical hovering near >death? Body raged by fevers, chills and seizures.tubes hanging all out of him! >In his weakened delirious state calls out gasping Lucy's names who keeps vigil >by his bedside..... Much as I hate to think of the poor dear in that state, wouldn't that be a great way to reunite them? Except that's too soon, I guess..... Thanks for sharing!!! Rika - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joyce Ashcroft Subject: K&L: K&L comment re last week Date: 14 Dec 1998 10:52:59 -0500 I for one really enjoyed the K&L scene in the hospital cubicle last week, and I'm sure lots of other fans loved it too... it made me go "awwww...", and I don't do that very often! I did kind of cringe when Scott started to get into bed to warm Lucy up... I remember thinking "Well, don't knock her on the floor, you big lug." I thought it looked like she reached behind her to check where the edge of the bed was. (One for the outtakes? SPLAT. How romantic...) Joyce De-lurking for the very first time... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debi Sanders Subject: K&L: Hey Guys Date: 14 Dec 1998 18:08:16 -0600 Hi: Any of you guys High Lonesome fans? If so you might like to check out a new page I've added to my band pages http://members.aol.com/DebiBF/Experience2.html A streaming and/or downloadable site for video of a song from THL that they performed at Take A Chance With The Stars in October of this year. Of course Jon Lindstrom no longer has the time to play with the group but I do have video on him and as I will be putting new songs up each week, some day soon I will have one with him playing (which he does VERY well if you've never seen him). Anyway I thought any fans might like to see this page. (a note to THL telling them you saw and liked would be just fantastic for me too.... address is on the page.....I would like to know if you drop them a line, I'm kinda trying to get as many people as I can to do that) Debi (who hopes its OK to post this letter here, since Jon is part of all this) -- -- DEBI SANDERS http://members.aol.com/DebiVF/THL.html "come visit" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: K&L comment re last week Date: 14 Dec 1998 21:04:35 -0500 At 10:52 AM 12/14/98 -0500, Joyce wrote: >I did kind of cringe when Scott started to get into bed to warm Lucy up... >I remember thinking "Well, don't knock her on the floor, you big lug." I >thought it looked like she reached behind her to check where the edge of >the bed was. (One for the outtakes? SPLAT. How romantic...) ROTFL! I like the way you think! >Joyce >De-lurking for the very first time... I hope you'll do it again soon - Rika - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mardis" Subject: K&L: Re: K&L comment re last week Date: 16 Dec 1998 07:37:07 -0500 ROTFL! on your 'SPLAT' comment - too romantic - and I agree that it looked like she was checking. I am so excited about this storyline - and loving the renewed emphasis on K&L (versus S&L). But Poor Kevin! Falling over like that, while Dr Perry 'missed' the catch. Shame - after he caught him after he bounced off the wall and all. Very excited to see what happens next! Kathim Glad you de-lurked -----Original Message----- >I for one really enjoyed the K&L scene in the hospital cubicle last week, >and I'm sure lots of other fans loved it too... it made me go "awwww...", >and I don't do that very often! > >I did kind of cringe when Scott started to get into bed to warm Lucy up... >I remember thinking "Well, don't knock her on the floor, you big lug." I >thought it looked like she reached behind her to check where the edge of >the bed was. (One for the outtakes? SPLAT. How romantic...) > >Joyce >De-lurking for the very first time... > > > >- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LucyBelle96@webtv.net (Beth-Anne) Subject: Re: K&L: Re: K&L comment re last week Date: 16 Dec 1998 08:59:04 -0700 (MST) Seth--Dr. Perry--did catch Kevin at first but Kevin assured him that he was alright so Perry was not prepaired. Did you all see the look on Scott's face when Lucy said.."Thank you Doc. Thank you." That was the most pathetic attempt at pain I have ever seen in my entire soap opera watching life. I have a new found appreciation for Eve though. She really came thru for the woman she cannot stand. And she was right she did owe Lucy one. actually two if you count the alibi. (But who's counting right?) When I read the spoiler about 1999 I was thrilled. Skeptical but thrilled. All that pushing we did on PCO must have made an impact on TPTB. (PCO to the rescue once again!!) Ta for now! Beth-Anne - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lady J (Janet Jones)" Subject: K&L: K&L on the road to recovery? Date: 16 Dec 1998 11:56:36 -0500 Hello K&L list. =20 I'm a new member to this list/conversation and I just wanted to say hello = to everyone. I agree that Kin Shriner more appeared to be smelling a bad = odor than emotionally upset about what Lucy was saying. However, I'm glad = that her statements push us one step closer to bringing back Lucy and = Kevin to their former glory.=20 I am mostly appalled by Kevin's "well we're over so it's time to move on" = attitude about Lucy. The writers could not be more off base here. Kevin = would never be so laissez-faire about his feelings about Lucy. And how = about when Lucy is delusional with a fever of 104 and Kevin is hanging = around Frank's room giving moral support to Lark! To Lark! =20 This is NOT the man who willed Lucy back from death one year ago. Should = we forget that Kevin practically forced Karen to put Lucy on a ventilator = last year and he stood by her side like a vicious lion protecting her cub = as doctors attempted to dis-engage the ventilator (because Lucy had signed = a do not recusicatate form). Now when she's in her darkest hour, Kevin = has stopped by only once and shows her just about the same amount of = compassion that he shows everyone else. They only "broke up" 2 months = ago. This story is way off the mark. Also, I hate to seem like a novice but what is PCO and TPTB? Thanks. Lady J - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie E. Saker" Subject: Re: K&L: K&L on the road to recovery? Date: 16 Dec 1998 12:12:56 +0000 > Also, I hate to seem like a novice but what is PCO and TPTB? port charles online (www.port-charles.com), and the powers that be (those in charge of the soap--also occasionally known as TIIC--the idiots in charge). there's a whole lot more you'll have to get used to if you hang out on PCO at all. somebody used to post a message detailing what all of them meant once a week or so--don't know if they still do. hope that helps! welcome aboard... julie - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kowalski Subject: Re: K&L: K&L on the road to recovery? Date: 16 Dec 1998 11:21:57 -0600 (CST) On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Lady J (Janet Jones) wrote: > I am mostly appalled by Kevin's "well we're over so it's time to move on" attitude about Lucy. The writers could not be more off base here. Kevin would never be so laissez-faire about his feelings about Lucy. And how about when Lucy is delusional with a fever of 104 and Kevin is hanging around Frank's room giving moral support to Lark! To Lark! I'm actually laying odds on that Kevin never knew what was going on with Lucy. He popped in to see the one time we all got to see it and then he did mention having popped in to see her again. As far as I can figure neither Scott nor Eve told Kevin what was happening to Lucy. If he had known I'm sure he'd have been there for her. The thing is that at that point Kevin was one of the few doctors standing on his feet and able to be of any use. Someone had to give moral support to Lark and make sure she took care of herself. And if he wasn't caring for Lark I bet he was off with Ellen or some other patient. It's the same Kevin, but he had his worst fears come to life when he caught them in Florida. He's not fighting because in his mind he can't win a battle between him and Scott. He doesn't know that Lucy has been practically throwing Scott off her everytime he pushes for them to be physical. Kevin doesn't know she was going to move out of the firehouse. As far as he knows Lucy and Scott are back stronger than ever and he can't break it. The little bit we got at Thanksgiving showed that there's clearly something still there between them and that the omniprescent shadow of Scott is the only thing holding him back. > Also, I hate to seem like a novice but what is PCO and TPTB? If I'm right 'PCO' is Port Charles Online and 'TPTB' is The Powers That Be. -Nicole http://www.galactic-productions.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Re: K&L comment re last week Date: 16 Dec 1998 12:22:02 -0500 At 08:59 AM 12/16/98 -0700, Beth Anne wrote: >I have a new found appreciation >for Eve though. She really came thru for the woman she cannot stand. And >she was right she did owe Lucy one. actually two if you count the alibi. >(But who's counting right?) But how about: (1) Eve's assistance to K/L/S in their plot to save Serena from Rex, and (2) Eve participating in the group who worked to find an antidote to Rex's poison and save Lucy's life? I'd say these two are pretty much even at this point, both on the "good deeds" and "bad deeds" sides of the ledger. >When I read the spoiler about 1999 I was thrilled. Skeptical but >thrilled. All that pushing we did on PCO must have made an impact on >TPTB. (PCO to the rescue once again!!) Well, if you're right, let me just say THANK YOU to those of you who post on PCO!!! It certainly does seem like the story took a sharp detour back in the direction we would prefer some time after S&L returned from Florida. Rika - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: K&L on the road to recovery? Date: 16 Dec 1998 13:02:56 -0500 At 11:56 AM 12/16/98 -0500, Lady J wrote: >Hello K&L list. > >I'm a new member to this list/conversation and I just wanted to say hello to everyone. Welcome! >I agree that Kin Shriner more appeared to be smelling a bad odor than >emotionally upset about what Lucy was saying. However, I'm glad that her >statements push us one step closer to bringing back Lucy and Kevin to their >former glory. By the way, since we have some folks on the listserv who are boycotting PC right now, I thought they might appreciate a brief summary of the things Lucy said. To set up the situation, she is delirious from fever. She mistook Scott for Kevin and was of the impression that she and Kevin had reconciled. It went on from there as she talked to "her Doc." She said that she thought they should get married as soon as possible and work on starting their family - they had waited much too long. She said that she knew Kevin would forgive her eventually because he loved her. She couldn't wait to get back to the lighthouse - she reminisced about lying in bed with Kevin listening to the surf crashing on the shore. Right around then, Scott went to get Eve to see what was wrong with Lucy (NOTHING is wrong with Lucy, Scott - the writers are just taking this opportunity to whack you between the eyes with a 2x4 so maybe you'll buy a clue). Eve came in and Lucy objected - she didn't want Eve trying to come between herself and Kevin again. Eve promised she wasn't doing that, and apologized to Lucy for the things she had done. Lucy told her she couldn't really come between K&L anyway because it was true love. She ended by telling "Kevin" that she was ashamed that he had seen her in bed with Scott - if she could change the past, she would. I think these were the first Scott/Lucy scenes I've ever watched more than once! I suppose if I were an empathetic, benevolent person I'd feel sorry for Scott. Sorry - not even a twinge of sympathy. The one I *did* feel sorry for was Eve, because just as Lucy has chosen Kevin over Scott, Scott has chosen Lucy over Eve. But, especially now that Eve knows she's lost Scott, I bet she will try to keep Kevin and Lucy apart despite what she knows, so I imagine my sympathy will be short-lived. >I am mostly appalled by Kevin's "well we're over so it's time to move on" >attitude about Lucy. The writers could not be more off base here. Kevin >would never be so laissez-faire about his feelings about Lucy. I partly agree and partly don't. I think it would be better if the writers allowed him to show his underlying feelings more often. I think the problem is that Kevin isn't one to air his feelings, so the only time he really shows them is when he's around Lucy. That makes him seem laissez-faire, as you say. Lucy, by contrast, loves to talk about her feelings, so we see them on display much more often. In terms of public behavior, though, they're each basically doing the same thing. Since each one thinks the other has moved on, each one is trying to respect the other person's choice. In a sense, that is an act of unselfish love. It's also an act of self-preservation, which is the sad part - if one of them would take a risk, this whole thing could be cleared up. You went on in stuff I snipped to mention how little time he has spent with Lucy during this crisis, and I agree. I wish we would see more evidence of visits. I have to admit, though, that Kevin can't spend his time glued to Lucy's bedside like he did when she was poisoned. Kevin is a dedicated doctor, and right now there are very few doctors and a whole lot of sick people - and they've been trying to make progress on a cure that would save Lucy *and* everyone else. But it's frustrating that several times he has said he was going to go see Lucy, and something else always comes up (like the day they needed to draw his blood). Then again, Lucy hasn't appeared on all that many episodes since the action moved to the ER, so I guess there haven't been tons of opportunities to show her with Kevin. Rika - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joyce Ashcroft Subject: Re: K&L: K&L on the road to recovery? Date: 16 Dec 1998 13:49:55 -0500 On Wed 12/16/98, Rika wrote: >I suppose if I were an empathetic, benevolent person I'd feel sorry for >Scott. Sorry - not even a twinge of sympathy. _____________ Oh, I think it's possible to be empathetic and benevolent and still not feel sorry for Scott... I don't either. It's not that I don't like Scott (please don't hit me, you guys...) but the stuff he's been pulling lately about trying to coerce/trick/guilt-trip Lucy into staying in the firehouse just because that happens to be what *he* wants is really rubbing me the wrong way. I'm glad he's finally getting the message. By the way, does anybody know if there's someone feeding Sigmund...? Joyce - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kathy" Subject: Re: K&L: K&L on the road to recovery? Date: 16 Dec 1998 13:52:48 EST I'm really new to this list thing to so if I'm not doign something right, please tell me. :)I don't think Eve's going to go back to Scott after this whole mess is through. She'd always be in second place, after Lucy. If she stays with Kevin, she'd be second also. I think that's a major thing with Eve, maybe in the future how she seems to lose everything to Lucy. I'm a devout Lucy and Kevin fan, but I can feel sorry for Eve as she is about to lose Scott and Kevin. (Well, she already lost Scott..but now more official than ever) The part when Scott was trying to tell Eve about Lucy and him made me completely ill. I kept thinking, "Scott, SHUT-UP!". Why does he insist on telling Eve these things every time they get together. He should realize he's hurting her more in the long run. Okay..well enough of my rambling. "It takes more strength to cry, admit defeat" -Madonna "You'll See" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LucyBelle96@webtv.net (Beth-Anne) Subject: Re: K&L: Reunion in 1999 Date: 16 Dec 1998 14:37:12 -0700 (MST) Hey all. Just wanted to tell you that the spoiler/rumor about Kev and Lucy reuniting in 1999 has been confirmed. You can believe it if you want because I did not start the rumor. (That is definately a good sign!!) We all know how the Lucy pregnancy rumor turned out. (for those who don't know...It didn't!) I read on here once that Jon is on the list? Is this true or did I read it wrong. I have been known to do that. Just ask Lynelle Faulk. :) Let me know if it is true. Cause I am really curious and it is going to bug me until I know! Ta and Luv, Beth-Anne - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: K&L: ADMIN: List Rules Refresher Date: 16 Dec 1998 14:13:51 -0800 (PST) Please pay particular attention to the list rules regarding SPOILERS. Thanks. Welcome to the Kevin and Lucy discussion list. Please keep these rules for future reference. To post to the list, send your mail to kevin-and-lucy@xmission.com. To unsubscribe, send a message of "unsubscribe kevin-and-lucy" (without the quotation marks) to majordomo@xmission.com. Like most mailing lists, we have a few rules that we ask everyone to follow when they post: we will send you a private note if you slip up, but if you repeatedly ignore list rules, you will be unsubscribed from the list for at least a week. If you need to review these rules at any time, you can find them on the list web site in Kevin & Lucy's Lighthouse at http://www.taiyin.net/lighthouse/ 1. Keep posts on topic. 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We've gained a few new people recently, so a blanket "welcome" to all. >To set up the situation, she is delirious from fever. I liked the fact that they followed up with the delirium thread with other patients, by having Kevin not remember things he said to Eve. Nice touch. >I think these were the first Scott/Lucy scenes I've ever watched more than >once! It was very good, and phenomenally frustrating ("Where's Kevin!?" I shouted. ) >The one I *did* feel sorry >for was Eve, because just as Lucy has chosen Kevin over Scott, Scott has >chosen Lucy over Eve. And to make the circle complete, we had Eve's scene with Chris today--which I thought was *very* well played, particularly by Nolan North. I agree with Rika that my sympathy for Eve is likely to go out the window if Eve's revelation to Chris is going where I think it will go (bah humbug!). But we'll see. >I think the problem is that Kevin isn't one to air his feelings, >so the only time he >really shows them is when he's around Lucy. True. It took him a long time to become friends with Mac, for example. Even his friendship with Ellen has mostly been one of moral support, not mutual commiseration. >But it's frustrating that several times he has >said he was going to go see Lucy, and something else always comes up (like >the day they needed to draw his blood). Presumably that is deliberate frustration engineered on the part of the writers . However, this is one of those times that I really dislike spoilers...I'd rather delude myself into thinking that Kevin and Lucy will reunite in time for Christmas. --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TV-Diva@webtv.net (Alyssa Lindsay) Subject: Re: K&L: Reunion in 1999 Date: 16 Dec 1998 17:49:11 -0500 (EST) --WebTV-Mail-1305178828-548 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Wouldn't it be great if Kevin and Lucy reunited for New Year's because then it would be the anniversary of the day they first made love. Remember when they tried to get together New Year's Eve and Kevin hit his head on the bathtub and had to be taken to General Hospital. The next day they finally made love, which would have been New Year's Day, and that technically is considered early 1999. But this could only happen if the PC writers did any research on Kevin and Lucy's past, which I don't think they have. 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Okay, maybe that's wishing for too much now. > > Alyssa > P.S. If anyone is keeping up with my fanfic "Triangle" about > Kevin/Lucy/Scott, I wrote Chapter 20 last Sunday. > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > * * HAPPY HOLIDAYS* * > Check out Sitcom Scenario Surf - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TC8870@aol.com Subject: K&L: Hate to be the bearer of bad news (spoilers) Date: 19 Dec 1998 16:55:23 EST I do hate bring my fellow K&L lovers such unglad tydings but... * * * * * Hope that's enough space. A few weeks ago, mystories.com posted that Kevin & Lucy would reconcile in early in 99. ( and that Eve & Scott would find love elsewhere perhaps not with each other). In fact, someone who's not even a K&L love was able to slightly comfirm this: The editor of SOU does a local radio stint in her town for the scoops. She/He said that Scott & Lucy wouldnt be together in 99 and that they would find their way back to their former lovers. But, unfortunantly, I've come across some spoilers that conflict with scoop. In the COMING SOON section of the Outback it says that Kevin & Lucy decide to move on with their lives APART from each other and Kevin & Eve's relationship takes a serious turn. In fact, SOU the magazine print the exact same thing: Kevin & Lucy decide to move on with their lives.....Kevin's interest in Eve turns more serious. *sigh* Why do the PTB at PC torture us so? With the exception of the actors nobody seems happy with this storyline, repairing S&L has done nothing for the ratings and I've heard that they got ALOT of negative mail from the viewers. Kevin & Eve do nothing for me as a couple and Scott & Lucy are nails on a chalkboard. After Lucy's feverish admission, I dont see how S&L can work out unless Lucy's feelings for Kevin will be another obstacle they work through. And if this is how Lucy truly feels about Kevin I cant see her walking away from him. My only hope is that this scoop is DEAD WRONG (fat chance LOL) or we're in for a mini triangle with Eve/Kevin/Lucy which if that's the case then Eve is basically road kill in the reconciliation of Kevin & Lucy. I mean I didnt think K&L would reconcile January 1st BUT I figured maybe for February sweeps. I speculate this much, if Kevin & Eve end up sleeping together K&L are dead in the water--they might reconcile after that but how much you wanna bet that Eve will end up pregnant with Kevin's child--the one thing Lucy wants in the whole wide world... Kevin & Eve, Scott & Lucy, indeed! I tell ya, that Sunset Beach is looking better and better everyday! Oh Mr. Spelling, surfs up! I'm about to wash up on your beach of "lust in the afternoon". LOL Please, please, please! Somebody prove me absolutely postively beyond a shadow of a doubt wrong! T.C - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jessica Thompson" Subject: K&L: There went my lunch! Date: 19 Dec 1998 01:11:41 -0800 References to yucky, disgusting, better be completely wrong spoilers below: < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < I am so depressed now! I am just going to pretend that I didn't read that k. Couldn't it be that these are all previews for the very near future (re: next few weeks) and that still in early '99 we will see a reconciliation as they realize the error of their ways. And a 'serious turn' could just refer to... I don't know how to put a positive spin on that one :( This is so depressing. If he sleeps with Eve I swear I will stop watching! Thanks for having the courage to relate such horrific news! Jessica - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReginaL402@aol.com Subject: Re: K&L: Hate to be the bearer of bad news (spoilers) Date: 19 Dec 1998 19:52:43 EST In a message dated 12/19/98 1:59:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, TC8870@aol.com writes: responding to vile scoops below: << I do hate bring my fellow K&L lovers such unglad tydings but... * * * * * * * * >> <> OH GOD! Please, no! Just when I got my hope back! I even started taping again, so that I wouldn't miss a second of the reunion-to-come, grrrrrr. Maybe this scoop is true, but very short term? Just an immediate-future kinda thing? And then everybody figures out that they're with the wrong people and by May sweeps at the very latest we have our reunion? That's as positive as I can be at the moment....... Regina (who's going to DE-program PC off her vcr ONCE AGAIN) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReginaL402@aol.com Subject: Re: K&L: Hate to be the bearer of bad news (spoilers) Date: 19 Dec 1998 19:52:44 EST In a message dated 12/19/98 1:59:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, TC8870@aol.com writes: * one more email from me about this scoop to discuss this interesting question * * << Why do the PTB at PC torture us so? With the exception of the actors nobody seems happy with this storyline, repairing S&L has done nothing for the ratings and I've heard that they got ALOT of negative mail from the viewers. >> I've been wondering myself if this S&L pairing has helped the ratings or not, been popular or not. I've been too revolted even to read the industry magazines, but if you're correct & this has done nothing for ratings and the viewer mail has been resoundingly negative, then this really is a stumper of a question: WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? Why haven't they ended it yet? Why does it appear that they plan to extend this disaster? I really do want to know. There has to be SOME sort of sense here, right? Forget that last question...... Regina - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debi Sanders Subject: K&L: Video's Date: 26 Dec 1998 21:42:08 -0600 If anyone is interested I have added a new Page to my PC-GH pages. The "DENIAL CITY MOVIE THEATER" You will find 3 short Real Player video clips of Kevin and Lucy's first meeting at the Outback right after Ryan tried to blow up Mac and Filly. The only take a couple of minutes to download into your Real Player. I am going to add additional clips later, Debi -- DEBI SANDERS http://members.aol.com/DebiVF/THL.html "come visit" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debi Sanders Subject: K&L: Duh! Date: 26 Dec 1998 21:43:44 -0600 I guess the address would help huh? LOL http://GotYaCovered.webjump.com/DenialCityMovieTheater.html Debi -- DEBI SANDERS http://members.aol.com/DebiVF/THL.html "come visit" -